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Speaker 2: I like your your hat, thanks man.
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Speaker 2: You big fan of Bung June Home?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no idea.
Speaker 3: What are your favorite films? He's like huge, Well, you
Speaker 3: know that one where like he he like, why that
Speaker 3: one where he walked?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 7: God, yeah, I think there was like water in one
Speaker 7: of those episodes. I mean movies.
Speaker 2: Movies, yeah, the movie, yeah, film if you will.
Speaker 7: Cameras were involved, just like that. That's all.
Speaker 2: It's cool. Directed thanks Man, good stuff, shust in my
Speaker 2: cinophiles out there, Yeah you know who you are? Name
Speaker 2: what movie like from Parasite?
Speaker 4: Oh is Parasite one of those?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah? Yeah. See.
Speaker 4: That's the thing is like I may have seen the movie,
Speaker 4: but I may not know anything.
Speaker 8: About who made it, Okay, which is probably a problem
Speaker 8: because I mean, we work in creative video, and so
Speaker 8: maybe they should get the credit where credit.
Speaker 2: Is due, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: And and I just I'm like, I just watched the show,
Speaker 4: or watch the movie, or watch whatever it.
Speaker 2: Is snow Piercer. Have you heard of that show? Okay,
Speaker 2: Well he directed the film, Yeah, mickey seventeen.
Speaker 4: I've heard that's the that's a relatively new one, right seventeen.
Speaker 2: Ye, that's twenty twe I didn't love that one.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 4: That's where the guy like dies over and over and
Speaker 4: over again.
Speaker 10: Is basically a perversion of multiplicity, basically is what it is.
Speaker 7: Interesting.
Speaker 2: I love it's the bungs you and ho on talking cow.
Speaker 7: I love it.
Speaker 4: I love that we're all about other people's interest talking movie.
Speaker 4: You guys love wrestling.
Speaker 8: I love racing like it's it's like a whole Also, yeah,
Speaker 8: I know you love racing also, I believe it and
Speaker 8: the formula, the ones back this week NASCAR is ramping
Speaker 8: up and the playoffs.
Speaker 2: That's right, justin Melvin. In the comments, he says, Josh
Speaker 2: is going to dominate the rating game again.
Speaker 10: Today again is a strong again because I tend and
Speaker 10: I checked yesterday cow talied.
Speaker 7: I mean I had two categories. He did, so did
Speaker 7: Josh though, Oh yeah, that's oh you came in my phone,
Speaker 7: so dominate again.
Speaker 10: There was domination if anything wins And crow for you,
Speaker 10: my friend, How is the crow being prepared?
Speaker 7: Are we? Is it or has to be baked? Because
Speaker 7: I don't want it. I think it's a different type of.
Speaker 2: I want to say fried, but that would be an issue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it would grill real what are you saying?
Speaker 7: It would be thrilled?
Speaker 2: Crow for you my friend?
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, careful eat crow.
Speaker 4: Careful, continue on here on talking cowboys.
Speaker 6: That's the uh no, we're not going there, go back
Speaker 6: to film talk right back to uh we're gonna go so.
Speaker 8: Uh no, the rating game will come up here in
Speaker 8: a little bit. We did offense yesterday. If you haven't
Speaker 8: watched our show yet, go online, go on YouTube and
Speaker 8: watch yesterday's show. It was really insightful. There was a
Speaker 8: lot of really good stuff with these two guys, Tommy
Speaker 8: Yarrish on how they view each position group on the
Speaker 8: offensive side of the ball. It was such a fun
Speaker 8: segment that we decided not to rush it, and so
Speaker 8: we've pushed defense to today. So we're going to talk
Speaker 8: about the defensive side of the ball today and go
Speaker 8: through each position group and rate it.
Speaker 4: Like it's in Madden.
Speaker 8: And what we did yesterday, which was a new thing
Speaker 8: and it was really fun, was we let the YouTube
Speaker 8: comments decide a champion.
Speaker 6: For each one of the position groups. So Josh has
Speaker 6: two wins and Patrick has two.
Speaker 2: We're crowning a champ today.
Speaker 8: We are crowning a champ today. No, Tommy, he had
Speaker 8: one win, so we eliminated him off of the show.
Speaker 8: He's not able to be back today.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's learning again.
Speaker 2: At one point, I really do want to go through
Speaker 2: your ratings as well mine. I would value those more
Speaker 2: than myself.
Speaker 11: Oh.
Speaker 8: I don't know about that one, but I'll give my
Speaker 8: ratings if we have time at the end of Yeah,
Speaker 8: please do. Before we go into that, though, I want
Speaker 8: to get into some news and notes. We talked about
Speaker 8: roster gymnastics yesterday. Those gymnastics have now landed. Whether it
Speaker 8: was an eight, nine or ten on your scoring chart,
Speaker 8: whatever it may be, they are done and the Cowboys
Speaker 8: look like they have their.
Speaker 4: Fifty three man roster going into Week one.
Speaker 7: Pat they do so.
Speaker 10: They made several transactions and there are more to come.
Speaker 10: We'll discuss that in the moment. But as far as
Speaker 10: the acrobatics that were occurrent on yesterday, the Cowboys successfully
Speaker 10: placed a claim for two cornerbacks, one Trickweezy Bridges and
Speaker 10: one Rederick aka Ready Steward.
Speaker 7: And what you may or may not know is.
Speaker 10: If a club is successfully awarded to claim those players
Speaker 10: or that player has to be assigned to the active
Speaker 10: fifty three man roster. So two cornerbacks came in, Cowboys
Speaker 10: needed to free up two seats, so two cornerbacks went
Speaker 10: out of the door via waivers. Those two guys are
Speaker 10: Andrew Booth and Zion Childress. And I hate that I
Speaker 10: said the last part, but I did.
Speaker 12: So.
Speaker 10: The Cowboys are hoping one of both of those guys
Speaker 10: clear waivers, which we will know at some point early
Speaker 10: afternoon today. If one or both do, then look for
Speaker 10: at least one of them to make their way back
Speaker 10: to the practice squad. Cowboys would love for that to
Speaker 10: be Zion Childress, but again we'll see. As it stands,
Speaker 10: Cowboys have one practice squad spot remaining, not counting the
Speaker 10: potential I p P exemption. There's a player on the
Speaker 10: radar that reports are out there right now, but we'll
Speaker 10: see if that grows any legs. But so they have
Speaker 10: one right now. So that was two in, two out.
Speaker 10: They also had two or four additional moves made. Phil
Speaker 10: MafA was placed on injured reserve returnable expected move, as
Speaker 10: was Kayln Carson injured reserve returnable. Those two guys will
Speaker 10: miss a minimum of four games. Those two spots that
Speaker 10: were freed up were assigned to c. J. Goodwin, an
Speaker 10: annual tradition and a Keem identity. We called it on
Speaker 10: Talking Cowboys, hands down the best podcast, and before it happened,
Speaker 10: and before that happened, it's almost almost like we're really
Speaker 10: good at what we do because we we do our
Speaker 10: jobs well.
Speaker 7: Arguable, not even arguably definitely, you.
Speaker 2: Can argue anything.
Speaker 10: You could argue anything. That doesn't mean you should, but
Speaker 10: you could, right So those transactions happening. Well, so as
Speaker 10: it stands, the Cowboys are you know, this for Nageland,
Speaker 10: but they're at fifty three and it's kind of settled in.
Speaker 10: Practice squad came out yesterday. So, like I mentioned, they
Speaker 10: have fifteen guys already signed to the practice squad. Uh
Speaker 10: and the totality of it are guys that they waived
Speaker 10: or released the day prior. So check that out on
Speaker 10: Dallas Cowboys dot com. We'll you know, piecemeal those as
Speaker 10: we go alonger if Kyle wants to run down the list,
Speaker 10: you know, Kyle will run down the list for you.
Speaker 4: I don't have the entire guest right now. This is
Speaker 4: the Holden Greer fill out practice squad article.
Speaker 10: So Jalen Brooks, Treyshawn Holden, Ernest Brown, Sadiq Charles, Jaron Christian,
Speaker 10: Elijah Clark, Jalen Cropper, Malik Davis, Rivaldo fairwe us back,
Speaker 10: He's back, he and holding their Backrevalden Princeton, Fannas back,
Speaker 10: Will Greer is back, Robert Rochelle, keem On Hall, Justin Baron,
Speaker 10: Buddy Johnson. Literally every single one of those names were
Speaker 10: on the ninety man roster for the Cowboys. So we'll
Speaker 10: see what additional names they are outside, so we'll see
Speaker 10: how that goes. And last, but certainly not least, shouts
Speaker 10: out to Nicole Hutcheson. We had this conversation last night.
Speaker 10: She reached out to me and told me that a
Speaker 10: very very credible source told her that Isaiah Land no
Speaker 10: pun intended, would be landing today at DFW to come
Speaker 10: talk with the Cowboys about likely re signing with the team.
Speaker 10: He is a twenty twenty three undrafted free agent, had
Speaker 10: a standout training camp in preseason before he was waived.
Speaker 10: At that time doing the numbers cut down, Cowboys wanted
Speaker 10: him back on the practice squad, but the coach said nana.
Speaker 2: And for those unfamiliar, I kind of compared him to
Speaker 2: the Perry On Winfree of that year. A guy that
Speaker 2: balled out in preseason, a guy that played really well
Speaker 2: in training camp, and then for you know, was on
Speaker 2: the bubble, one of those bubble guys. And in this scenario,
Speaker 2: he was cut before making fifty three to bring him back.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see him so as he was.
Speaker 8: Liked more within the walls of this Bill thing than
Speaker 8: I think even Perry On Winfrey.
Speaker 4: Winfrey made the oh no agaree, and they loved Isaiah.
Speaker 2: They pleased.
Speaker 7: They were that.
Speaker 8: Out of the entire time that I've covered the team
Speaker 8: since twenty nineteen, I have never seen them so downright
Speaker 8: disappointed that a guy got claimed off of waivers other
Speaker 8: than Isaiah Lion.
Speaker 7: Isaiah Land, they were not happy. He did not make
Speaker 7: it that you know. They were displeased. So I think
Speaker 7: you can look at that him back.
Speaker 10: The Cowboys unfortunately lost Tyrus week two waivers he to
Speaker 10: the Detroit Lions, so trade off throw. So Isaiah Land
Speaker 10: is expected to reunite with the Cowboys as early as today.
Speaker 10: They still have some moving parts. Because I know you're
Speaker 10: doing the math and you're thinking to yourself, well, no,
Speaker 10: see if you're saying they want Zion shoulders back, but
Speaker 10: Isaiah Land is expected to sign, you only have one
Speaker 10: spot again, moving parts, So expect some pieces to be
Speaker 10: moved around on that practice squad. That's not finalized quite yet.
Speaker 10: But Cowboys are back at practice tomorrow, so I do
Speaker 10: expect that things will have settled between now and then.
Speaker 8: If sorry, I was just going to say I had
Speaker 8: a rumor mill conversation with one of the guys on
Speaker 8: the beat. A couple of days ago and he thought
Speaker 8: Trey Shawn Holden was going to get claimed. So the
Speaker 8: fact that he worked back to the practice squad.
Speaker 7: I think is a win for this team.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure.
Speaker 8: He played so well in the preseason. I think he's
Speaker 8: a young, budding wide receiver. He's got some of the
Speaker 8: best hands in the wide receiver room period. There's a
Speaker 8: lot he still needs to grow in his game, but
Speaker 8: I think his hands are NFL ready right now. And
Speaker 8: the fact that there was a rumor that he could
Speaker 8: have been claimed or that people thought they would have
Speaker 8: picked him up didn't happen. He's back here in Dallas.
Speaker 8: I saw him in the training table yesterday. I'm excited
Speaker 8: to have him back in the building.
Speaker 2: It's huge for him. And then also a Jalen Brooks
Speaker 2: too thing. I think it's another one of those the
Speaker 2: same situations where he balled out in camp and you
Speaker 2: just want to see more of him, and he's made
Speaker 2: plays like in game as well.
Speaker 4: Like Brooks has played games. Yeah, yeah, games.
Speaker 2: He's played and he's used with you know, not so
Speaker 2: great quarterback play.
Speaker 8: To be fair, the reason Brooks is on the practice
Speaker 8: squad is because Ryan Flinoy did what he did. If
Speaker 8: Flinoy didn't do what he did, Jalen Brooks would be
Speaker 8: on the team. And Brian Schottenheimer talked about it. He
Speaker 8: talked about how he was anticipating Brooks to have that
Speaker 8: level playing field from a special team standpoint.
Speaker 7: But Flinoyd took a step forward and that was the difference.
Speaker 7: They said.
Speaker 8: They were really even from a receiver standpoint, but Flinoy
Speaker 8: looked better on special teams.
Speaker 7: And that's how you make a roster.
Speaker 2: And he's a draft pick too. He is a draft
Speaker 2: don't forget that.
Speaker 7: So it was Brooks.
Speaker 4: Brooks is a draft pick?
Speaker 7: Oh is he?
Speaker 4: He was a seventh round there? I think that the
Speaker 4: higher a little different because wasn't what was.
Speaker 2: Florida was the fourth round one of your He was fifth, fifth,
Speaker 2: might have even been six.
Speaker 4: I think it was a sixth round.
Speaker 7: I think, yeah, I'm feel sixth sixth.
Speaker 4: Round Yeah, six okay, yeah, sixty seventh. So it's a
Speaker 4: little bit different.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 10: And I remember speaking with him directly after the draft
Speaker 10: and he said that he's always muddled his game around
Speaker 10: Jerry Rice, which is his biggest idol.
Speaker 2: What the anybody to monology?
Speaker 10: So listen but you can see it starting to develop
Speaker 10: in his route running and things like that, and just
Speaker 10: like his demeanor and in between the lines. So, I
Speaker 10: mean Ryan Flinoy is on an upward trajectory, so much
Speaker 10: so that he got the nood on the fifty three
Speaker 10: over Jalen Brooks, who produced in the games that he
Speaker 10: was so the fact that you could keep both of
Speaker 10: them in the building and still get Tree Shawn Holden
Speaker 10: as well. I mean, this wide receiver corp is looking
Speaker 10: quite lethal top to butt.
Speaker 8: He tweeted out yesterday he said, I'm gonna be fine.
Speaker 8: His name is Zion Giant. Do you think he'll be fine.
Speaker 8: I mean, he'll be fine, You're I'm gonna land. But
Speaker 8: do you think he'll be back in the Cowboys unif.
Speaker 10: If be clear as waivers, I'd be stunned if he's
Speaker 10: not on the practice squad for the Cowboys. If he
Speaker 10: clears waivers, the Cowboys want him on the practice squad.
Speaker 2: Sure, I'm stunned at the fact that that he was waived, period.
Speaker 2: You know, I like that, That to me is so
Speaker 2: to me, that was your starting nickel for a week. One.
Speaker 4: Well, that's a byproduct of adding those other two exactly.
Speaker 2: And I was gonna say completely understanding.
Speaker 10: You have to then at that point, after you've added
Speaker 10: the the two corners which have to go to the
Speaker 10: active roster, You've made the moves to get C. J.
Speaker 10: Goodwin back, which is you know, perennial. But then you
Speaker 10: wanted more depth on the offensive line, so we talked
Speaker 10: about Hakeema Dentergy. He's back in the building along with
Speaker 10: the Johnny Corney. You so you got both of those guys.
Speaker 10: So then the question becomes, Okay, well it's Zion Childrens
Speaker 10: versus who are you gonna risk James Houston.
Speaker 7: No, no, you're not.
Speaker 10: And then it kind of goes from there, who are
Speaker 10: you willing to risk?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 7: Are you gonna risk Shamar James?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't, right, Yeah, but if you're asking me, I'm
Speaker 2: keeping sixty guys and I'm taking any fines that come
Speaker 2: my way, you know what I'm.
Speaker 10: Saying, because you can. I just got to So yeah,
Speaker 10: I mean it's just position cheating what I'm doing. Guys
Speaker 10: positional at that point. So but yeah, they definitely want
Speaker 10: him back, and most times we've seen that. We just
Speaker 10: talked about tray Shon Holden. Sometimes you can play that game.
Speaker 10: Even with a player that fans and just general you know,
Speaker 10: people tend to think, oh, well, he want clear waivers,
Speaker 10: there's no there's no chance, and then he does so
Speaker 10: more often than not.
Speaker 7: That is the case.
Speaker 10: Now. Unfortunately you get a case here and there, like
Speaker 10: an Isaiah Land for example. But they're hoping that Zion
Speaker 10: Childrens is not an Isaiah Land situation. But yeah, Land
Speaker 10: should be. If he's not on the ground by now,
Speaker 10: he should be in the air and we'll see if
Speaker 10: the he and the Cowboys can finalize. But it's in
Speaker 10: the works and it's it's imminent.
Speaker 2: According to his Instagram, he's in the air.
Speaker 10: Well, there you go, he's in there. I haven't even
Speaker 10: been on i G yet today, so shout out to you.
Speaker 10: Needs to be on i G more, my friend, I
Speaker 10: do need to be on ig more. But this thing
Speaker 10: that's that's formerly known as Twitter, it's it's kind of you.
Speaker 7: Know, that's your thing. It's kind of a thing.
Speaker 2: It's kind of thing.
Speaker 7: It's kind of a thing.
Speaker 8: I want to quickly talk about the two corners that
Speaker 8: Dallas did pick up off of waivers.
Speaker 4: Ready, Stuarts, I need your uh tallais trick.
Speaker 7: Quizzy.
Speaker 4: QUIZI I haven't gotten a pronunciation.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll wait for the pr pronunciation.
Speaker 4: I'll trust you on that one. Quizy uh.
Speaker 8: Stewart was, of course an undrafted free agent last year.
Speaker 8: He was picked up by the Bears, who were coached
Speaker 8: by who Josh Rodriguez.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I missed that.
Speaker 8: What he was up as an undrafted free agent by
Speaker 8: the Bears last year who was coached by who Josh Rodriguez?
Speaker 2: Won Matt Eberflus.
Speaker 7: Matt Eberflus.
Speaker 8: So he actually had a game he picked off a
Speaker 8: couple of passes he had won that was a pick
Speaker 8: six forty eight yards for a touchdown. Last year in
Speaker 8: the preseason finale. So made the team or he made
Speaker 8: the practice squad, was cut or waived, re signed to
Speaker 8: the practice squad, was elevated a couple of times last year,
Speaker 8: and actually forced to fumble in Week nine against Marvin
Speaker 8: Harrison Junior. So like another another standout receiver. Young guy
Speaker 8: played in four games last year, most of the or
Speaker 8: most of all.
Speaker 7: In the preseason.
Speaker 4: I mean that was pretty much the big thing.
Speaker 2: He's one of these rangy guys that I'm just kidding
Speaker 2: talking about he's a long guy though.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean he's five eleven one eighty three,
Speaker 8: which is his wingspan is thirty inches, which is not great.
Speaker 6: He's okay, so we're learning the guy. Are you thinking
Speaker 6: about Bridges? Bridges is a lot bigger, That's what I'm
Speaker 6: Bridges is sixth and right.
Speaker 7: Uh no, he went to Florida.
Speaker 4: Ready Stewarts.
Speaker 8: Ready Stewart was out of Florida or out of Troy Bridges.
Speaker 4: We're all we're all mixing, mixing these guys up triquizy.
Speaker 8: Bridges is a bigger player, six foot two and change, ok,
Speaker 8: thirty three inch. Yeah, he's a little bit a little
Speaker 8: like of a longer player. Uh transfer to play for Florida.
Speaker 8: He's he was a seventh round pick this year by
Speaker 8: Los Angeles and just didn't make the teams.
Speaker 10: It was on the same Florida team as Shamar James.
Speaker 10: So that's a reunion.
Speaker 2: Now, are are we expecting them to play defense a week?
Speaker 7: One?
Speaker 2: Are special team?
Speaker 10: I'm just going to say special teams from that's probably
Speaker 10: what I was. Special teams for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 8: I think Ready Stewart would have a chance to maybe
Speaker 8: compete with Childress and Keemon for that nickel spot, just
Speaker 8: because of the shorter length and the fact that he
Speaker 8: did play in a game last year in Week nine
Speaker 8: against Arizona, forced to fumble, did some good things.
Speaker 4: Eber Flues liked him. They brought him back. You know,
Speaker 4: I think he probably has the better shot out of
Speaker 4: the two.
Speaker 7: I would it's specialty.
Speaker 10: If I've ventured to guess in assuming that Zion Children's
Speaker 10: clear as waivers and he's back on the practice squad,
Speaker 10: I elevate Zion for week one, and Ready or CHIQUIZI
Speaker 10: go to.
Speaker 7: The inactive list for that particular week, maybe so I could.
Speaker 2: See that healthy scratches if yeah, healthy.
Speaker 4: Scrats when you elevate a Zion Kemon Hawks.
Speaker 7: Yeah whatever those guys are.
Speaker 2: I like those words.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they tasted like those words.
Speaker 8: But yeah, there's the roster gymnastics I want, kind of
Speaker 8: like what I said about Joe Milton previously. Unless they're
Speaker 8: making plays and they're doing something good. Hopefully this is
Speaker 8: the last conversation we have to have about Traquezy Bridges
Speaker 8: and Ready Stewart.
Speaker 4: Unless they're making play. Unless they're they're making plays, I'm
Speaker 4: cool with it.
Speaker 7: Let's have that conversation. I hope he's ready.
Speaker 9: Oh.
Speaker 4: With that being said, we're.
Speaker 6: Gonna go to our second when we come back, it's
Speaker 6: back to play rate that position.
Speaker 4: We're going to go to the defensive side of the ball.
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Speaker 8: comments again to help us the side a champion. The
Speaker 8: score is currently two to two Patrick versus Josh. We're
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Speaker 8: All right, yesterday we started this, like I said in
Speaker 8: the opening segment, rating each position group like kid is
Speaker 8: a Madden position group, and I've got the Madden scores
Speaker 8: up just as reference, and we'll kind of use it
Speaker 8: as kind of an intertwining thing. But when we give
Speaker 8: the final grades, the numbers from both guys Josh and
Speaker 8: and and Patrick, then we're gonna use it you guys
Speaker 8: on the YouTube chat to give us a winner. So
Speaker 8: let's start it off with the defensive line, gentlemen, defensive lion.
Speaker 8: But I'm gonna split it, yes, please, because I think
Speaker 8: that's going to be real convoluted.
Speaker 4: If yes, Normally I wouldn't, but I'm going to please.
Speaker 7: Could you please, let's start.
Speaker 4: With the interior defensive line. Get it out of the way. Okay,
Speaker 4: what do you think about the interior defensive line.
Speaker 2: Currently right now? I would say, uh, probably a sixty eight.
Speaker 4: Okay, I think that's reasoning.
Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say. I think you have
Speaker 2: a lot of unproven guy. I mean, we've talked up
Speaker 2: parent winfree and I think it's because of the work
Speaker 2: that he put into camp. It's the work that you've
Speaker 2: seen him put into the preseason games. But of course
Speaker 2: we are not taking live bullets yet. I am concerned
Speaker 2: about the defensive tackle position. We talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 2: We don't have a true one tech on the defensive interior.
Speaker 2: So it's it's alarming, it's concerning, it's all of those things.
Speaker 2: And right now, I think you're going into like the
Speaker 2: default mad and create a team where it's just sixty
Speaker 2: eight sixty nine something around there. Okay, sixty five? Wow, yeah,
Speaker 2: sixty five.
Speaker 10: You got Osa who is an animal, absolutely and he's
Speaker 10: shown it consistently.
Speaker 7: But if I give Osa and.
Speaker 10: Eighty, Let's say I give Osa an eighty Okay, okay,
Speaker 10: if I give Oson eighty, would you.
Speaker 7: Like to know what he is on? Sure?
Speaker 2: Probably seventy eight?
Speaker 4: Oh wait, I don't have it?
Speaker 7: Then?
Speaker 4: Why did you offer seventy nine? Close?
Speaker 10: Oh? So there you go, Hey man, I just called me.
Speaker 10: So if I give Oson eighty, from there, it just
Speaker 10: goes down downhill. Because Solomon Thomas looks sensational in training camp,
Speaker 10: but he's not had the consistency of production that Osa
Speaker 10: has had. We're hoping Solomon Thomas has a breakout year.
Speaker 10: Okay uh and and ultimately lives up to the fact
Speaker 10: that he was a former third overall pick Mazzie Smith.
Speaker 10: We know what that looks like. There are very there
Speaker 10: are concerns there. The team's concerned. He's you know, his
Speaker 10: self awareness is key because he's saying he's got to
Speaker 10: do something, not what you want to hear. But I
Speaker 10: respect the accountability one percent. J Toya late round pick,
Speaker 10: rookie up and down training camp. Still got a lot
Speaker 10: to figure out there. Perry On Winfrey flashed during training camp,
Speaker 10: flashed in the preseason. I have him higher than Toya
Speaker 10: and Smith, little below Thomas. But all things considered, Osa
Speaker 10: is carrying this group, and I mean they're strapped to
Speaker 10: his back. So Osa it drops down to a sixty
Speaker 10: five for me.
Speaker 8: So Josh is a sixty eight. Patrick is a sixty five.
Speaker 8: Put your votes in on the chat now on who
Speaker 8: you feel like wins the interior defensive line. I'll give
Speaker 8: mine just as like you back in one, but I'm
Speaker 8: not competing here, so don't vote for me. I'd say
Speaker 8: like a seventy two just because I think my hope
Speaker 8: around the interior defensive line is lower. It's probably more
Speaker 8: like a sixty three because I'm just I'm done talking
Speaker 8: about the interior defensive line. I think Osa is prime
Speaker 8: for a big year. I think Solomon Thomas is an
Speaker 8: underrated pickup.
Speaker 4: J Toya.
Speaker 6: As long as he can stay still, that's all I'm asking.
Speaker 6: I just don't want you to go backwards. Just stay still,
Speaker 6: just be and I'll feel pretty good.
Speaker 7: Just be about what.
Speaker 8: Just exist there, don't move, let the other guys run.
Speaker 8: You chill, just anchor, and I think i'd feel better.
Speaker 8: I'd probably say like a seventy, But that's a.
Speaker 2: Really good argument for him though, Like that's what you
Speaker 2: want him to do. Is what you got to do.
Speaker 7: Stay still, get in the way what I'm paying you
Speaker 7: to do.
Speaker 2: Be there.
Speaker 8: The other guys like the three techs. I think Dallas
Speaker 8: is fine a three tech. The nose tackle position is
Speaker 8: just a mess. It is an absolute mess. So I'll
Speaker 8: say a seventy one officially, online, don't vote for me,
Speaker 8: to vote for Patrick, vote for Josh. Going on to
Speaker 8: edge rusher here, Oh Pat, I'll let you start. You had, okay,
Speaker 8: the highest one you had yesterday was a ninety six
Speaker 8: and it was a wide receiver corps.
Speaker 4: Is this going to challenge that.
Speaker 7: This is going to challenge now, caveat.
Speaker 10: I'm basing this on Michael Parsons being on the field, Okay,
Speaker 10: basing that on my should we?
Speaker 7: I'm basing that on should we?
Speaker 2: Is the question?
Speaker 7: My good says yes, and we're gonna go from there.
Speaker 10: With Michael Parsons on the field, You're talking Micah, Dante
Speaker 10: Fowler coming off of a career season. Mashaw Kneelan is
Speaker 10: looking like he's gonna take a major step forward. Donovan
Speaker 10: az Roku.
Speaker 7: We know what he can be.
Speaker 10: All he needs to do is become it right. James
Speaker 10: Houston was indeed unblockable in training camp in the preseason,
Speaker 10: just as Shot he said he was. So I think
Speaker 10: he can be on Demon time and Sam Williams very
Speaker 10: much plans to be on Demon time as he comes
Speaker 10: back from that injury. Good grief, dude. I have Micah
Speaker 10: at a ninety nine. If I put Dante in the eighties.
Speaker 4: You know Madden has him as an eighty six.
Speaker 7: Not just kidding.
Speaker 4: I was about to say, Okay, that's why I see Yeah,
Speaker 4: they have him as a ninety eight.
Speaker 10: So I stick with NC double A football. Come see
Speaker 10: me go dogs. I'm gonna go with a god, this
Speaker 10: is potent, man. I'm not even factoring in the practice squad.
Speaker 4: Guys, you're not allowed to read the YouTube chat while you're.
Speaker 7: Thinking, I'm not. You're not. Okay, you're not, you're not.
Speaker 10: Just so you know, I'm not like listen at art
Speaker 10: that I posted on cowboys dot com. So just so
Speaker 10: you know, I'm gonna go with they don't be looking
Speaker 10: at the other rating, you know what. Let me let
Speaker 10: me go with the ninety four. Okay, I'm gonna go
Speaker 10: with the ninety four. They did challenge the wide Receiver
Speaker 10: for but Wide Receiver Corps has more proven production. Right,
Speaker 10: So Marshawn's coming off injury looks great. Donovan, he's a rookie,
Speaker 10: looks great potential. We'll see. James Houston looks fantastic. Let's
Speaker 10: see it translates Sam Williams, Do you need a grace
Speaker 10: period to get back the top four?
Speaker 7: We don't know, but on paper, holy crap.
Speaker 2: I think much like we've talked about before, it's just
Speaker 2: been a while since you've seen these guys out on
Speaker 2: the field. The chemistry and everything you'd expect to see
Speaker 2: from a defensive line of this caliber. Dante Fowler, of course,
Speaker 2: played great in Washington, played great here obviously. Marshaw Neelan,
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't think that there's enough
Speaker 2: proven players here. We we've seen it in practice, absolutely,
Speaker 2: But I don't know, man. And and add in the
Speaker 2: drama of Micah Parses into this situation, I'm kind of
Speaker 2: on the table on this.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 7: I'm just kind of like, get off the furniture of
Speaker 7: the furniture.
Speaker 2: It's just a freezy game. No, it's not all right, fellasance,
Speaker 2: is it? Michah Parsons right now? Right now?
Speaker 6: If he's he's in let's say he's in week one,
Speaker 6: he's in in in the condition that has like the
Speaker 6: down if it's pitch.
Speaker 4: Instead of like a ninety eight, he is actually like
Speaker 4: a ninety two. Like, yes, just out of shape currently.
Speaker 7: It's like thing he is.
Speaker 15: You could do that if you want to factor that in.
Speaker 15: I would I want to out of football shape say that?
Speaker 15: Say that, Oh no, I'm a shape. I mean Michael
Speaker 15: Parsons is no is a Greek god. But if we're
Speaker 15: talking about conditioning, playing week one, what you expect to
Speaker 15: get out of him?
Speaker 8: You know, it's a common term in soccer being match fit.
Speaker 8: All those guys are just downright conditioned. They're guys. But
Speaker 8: it's different to be match.
Speaker 2: You know, as well as I know, someone's going to
Speaker 2: hear one of us say, michaels.
Speaker 7: Out of shape.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm not saying out of shape.
Speaker 7: Believe that's the calling the kettle football shape.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the pipe calling the kettle Mexican. Okay, I
Speaker 2: cannot make that claim that he is out of shape.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that I'm
Speaker 2: not expecting him to be at his full Madden rating
Speaker 2: for week one or for the foreseeable future until he's
Speaker 2: out there practicing.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 2: So considering that what we're going into as far as
Speaker 2: Week one goes, i'd give it collectively an eighty four wow.
Speaker 7: Wow. Okay, that's a uh wow. You know it's funny.
Speaker 6: I'm kind of in the middle, Like, I don't think
Speaker 6: ninety four because of the same reasonings.
Speaker 4: I would probably put it at like an eighty eight
Speaker 4: eighty nine.
Speaker 8: So I honestly like I'm interested to take the chat
Speaker 8: things pretty much like I think it's right in between
Speaker 8: you guys, because I think Micah does elevate the room significantly.
Speaker 8: But just like you said, I want to see it
Speaker 8: from Sam Williams. I want to see it from a
Speaker 8: rookie Donovan Azaraku. I want to see it from Marshawn
Speaker 8: Neelan another second round pick. I want to see all
Speaker 8: those guys play it. But until we see it, I
Speaker 8: don't know exactly what to expect. I think they'll be good.
Speaker 8: That's why I say eighty eight eighty nine. Well, I
Speaker 8: think they're going to be one of the best edge
Speaker 8: rushing rooms in the in the league that's yet to
Speaker 8: be seen. So Patrick gives a ninety four. Josh gives
Speaker 8: an eighty four vote for whoever wins this round. I've
Speaker 8: got the winner of the interior defensive line. I'm gonna
Speaker 8: wait till the end of the show, though, I'm gonna try.
Speaker 10: And the basement boy, says Michael Rose out of bed
Speaker 10: at ninety eight point nine.
Speaker 4: He might, I disagree, he might.
Speaker 7: I do not disagree.
Speaker 4: He might maybe so linebacker, Josh, I'll let you start
Speaker 4: on linebacker.
Speaker 2: Linebackers. I really like your linebacker group, I really really do.
Speaker 2: I think you're in a solid place, and by solid
Speaker 2: I mean you know b plus, you know you're not
Speaker 2: quite that eightier. You're not the best of the best
Speaker 2: when it comes to linebackers, but you have a lot
Speaker 2: of potential when it comes to guys like Jack Sanborn.
Speaker 2: The progression of ameresilia foul. I'm going solidly at an
Speaker 2: eighty five.
Speaker 7: Okaymn you land it right where I landed.
Speaker 4: Oh we got a tie.
Speaker 10: Now, I literally was landed right at eighty five. But
Speaker 10: go ahead with your with your explanation.
Speaker 7: No, that that that's it there.
Speaker 2: I mean, are you factoring in Demo right now?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 4: No, this is week one.
Speaker 2: This is week one as Okay, eighty five. With Demo,
Speaker 2: I think you're at a ninety genuinely, he's.
Speaker 4: I think if he comes back in place like Demo
Speaker 4: can Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 10: I think with Demo you're probably at a ninety two.
Speaker 10: That's fairly to ninety two. I don't I was going
Speaker 10: to say eighty five, and now I'm like, well, should
Speaker 10: I say eighty four eighty six? Just to give the
Speaker 10: fans something to vote.
Speaker 2: If you want to get Jeopardy me, dude, No, I'm
Speaker 2: strictly one of this.
Speaker 7: Price is right, price is right?
Speaker 2: Whatever one dollar I had one dollar look at your
Speaker 2: skinny microphone, Kyle.
Speaker 7: If Kyle walks in here with the skinny Bob Barker,
Speaker 7: that would.
Speaker 2: Honestly, dude, that would be an awesome segment. Great, have
Speaker 2: you skinny microphone?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've tried.
Speaker 8: There was a bit on the Draft Show when Hellman
Speaker 8: was here that we were talking about doing and we
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Speaker 10: I am going to see her eighty five and raise
Speaker 10: you a little bit because I'm staring really hard at
Speaker 10: marys lea file. He just looks sensational, so leaving about
Speaker 10: his play all right, I think both things are true.
Speaker 7: He's got good hair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got good hair.
Speaker 10: You know, smile comes from good stock, you know. So yeah, guys,
Speaker 10: just guys, just so, yes, what can I say? Marys
Speaker 10: Damon Clark coming off the best training cap in preseason
Speaker 10: of his career, he looks like he's just ready to
Speaker 10: do some damage from that. Eber Flew sounds better. It's
Speaker 10: more confident playing that way out For now. I won't
Speaker 10: put too much stock in Shamar James. I love his upside,
Speaker 10: but I see him more so as a special teams
Speaker 10: demon who can contribute at linebacker. Jack Sambourne looks good,
Speaker 10: Kenneth Murray. So I'm you know, I'm gonna go give
Speaker 10: me an eighty nine. Wow, give me and eighty nine?
Speaker 4: What was yours?
Speaker 10: Give me eighty nine because I'm really leaning I think
Speaker 10: Marris is going to be something might be.
Speaker 3: We just haven't seen it. Yeah, and actually I mean
Speaker 3: you kind of you kind.
Speaker 2: Of have on special teams and no, not just that
Speaker 2: when first drive I'm.
Speaker 7: Talking about Marist.
Speaker 10: You've seen flashes of him being of potential towards the
Speaker 10: end of our vagueness last season, right he was dropped
Speaker 10: in he became the green dot. He was asked to
Speaker 10: do a lot with the injury to Eric Kendricks, injury
Speaker 10: to de mareon overshown, he played multiple positions Mike, will
Speaker 10: and Sam and did a lot of damage. So the
Speaker 10: only thing that was what the biggest thing he needed
Speaker 10: to develop was the game needed to slow down for him,
Speaker 10: and he just needed to trust his instincts a little
Speaker 10: bit more. Now that he's doing that and he has
Speaker 10: eber Flus coaching him up to it. Oh man, this
Speaker 10: is all this is not hyperbole, Mari. If I was
Speaker 10: all pro potential, just like Demo, just like to Marron Overshown,
Speaker 10: that's all prop that's all pro potential, I hope. So
Speaker 10: we'll see if it manifests itself. But at minimum, it's
Speaker 10: pro bo pent at minimal.
Speaker 2: And he's talked about being more confident in Eberflu's scheme.
Speaker 2: He feels like he understands it more and he definitely yeah,
Speaker 2: absolutely so I think he's unnatural to this scheme.
Speaker 8: Patrick had in eighty nine Josh Hadden eighty five vote
Speaker 8: now for who wins the linebacker position.
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny. I was going into this thinking.
Speaker 7: I would have had the high he went up so Josh.
Speaker 7: I see, I just gave Josh to win. And that's.
Speaker 8: I was going into this position group thinking I was
Speaker 8: gonna rate them the highest out of everybody. I had
Speaker 8: him at an eighty even, and that's significantly lower than
Speaker 8: what you guys have. And the reason why is because
Speaker 8: one there's no Demo. I think Demo can be a
Speaker 8: superstar if he comes back, but he also at this
Speaker 8: point when he comes back, exactly at this point, Demarve
Speaker 8: and overshown and I may have said this on this
Speaker 8: show before, I've definitely said it in conversation. He's going
Speaker 8: to be one of two things, and there's really no
Speaker 8: in between for the Dallas Cowboys, Harvey an overshow and
Speaker 8: it's either going to be what he was prior to
Speaker 8: the injury and he'll be one of the best comeback
Speaker 8: stories in NFL in Dallas Cowboy's history by being the
Speaker 8: player that we all think he can be. That's one
Speaker 8: way to do it, and that's the one we all
Speaker 8: hope happens. The other way, and there's really no in
Speaker 8: between because any sort of drop off from what he
Speaker 8: was initially, he's going to be one of the biggest
Speaker 8: what ifs in Dallas Cowboys history, because if he doesn't
Speaker 8: reach that level, it's still a what if.
Speaker 7: There's one way or the other. That's what he's going
Speaker 7: to be.
Speaker 8: So to bank on him coming back at some point
Speaker 8: down the line and being a superstar. I think he
Speaker 8: can do it because he's already shown us he can
Speaker 8: do it once, but doing it twice is a different animal,
Speaker 8: and I do I have faith that he'll do that,
Speaker 8: But if it's anything less. Then, I think it's a
Speaker 8: disappointment not on his part, but just for what could
Speaker 8: have been from Demarve and overshown the linebacker position as
Speaker 8: a whole with Kenneth Murray leading the charge. I think
Speaker 8: he's a good player. I loved the acquisition when they
Speaker 8: traded for him this offseason. I said that on the show.
Speaker 8: I've been very vocal about I like Kenneth Murray and
Speaker 8: I think Cowboys fans will like Kenneth Murray as the
Speaker 8: season goes on. Is he the superstar linebacker you need?
Speaker 8: Probably not.
Speaker 6: He's probably like a low eighty in my Madden rating.
Speaker 6: If I'm gonna put him there. Madden had him out
Speaker 6: of a seventy three. I think that's too low. I
Speaker 6: just think that's too low of a number for Kenneth Murray.
Speaker 6: I think he's more of like a seventy eight, seventy nine, eighty,
Speaker 6: whatever it may be. Then you've got a bunch of dudes.
Speaker 8: You just got Jack Sanborn, Demon Clark, You've got Maris
Speaker 8: Leafal who all can take a step forward and have
Speaker 8: played well in training camp and have taken steps in
Speaker 8: training camp.
Speaker 7: All great.
Speaker 8: When Week one happens, when that first snap happens, it's
Speaker 8: going to be a different that's a different beast. I
Speaker 8: think eighty is just maybe maybe that's a high number
Speaker 8: for me, even saying that Kenneth Murray's leading the charge
Speaker 8: and he's at a seventy eight or seventy nine, but I.
Speaker 6: Still think that's a number that would I would tab there.
Speaker 6: It's like a linebacker room.
Speaker 2: The linebacker room currently is like a cryptocurrency. And I've
Speaker 2: used this analogy before where it's like it's valuable, there's
Speaker 2: value there, but you haven't seen it yet, you can't
Speaker 2: use it yet.
Speaker 7: That's this That's a lot of this defense.
Speaker 8: So it's with that being said, let's move on to
Speaker 8: corner after the break, because there's another conversation we had
Speaker 8: about what this cornerback room is going to look like
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Speaker 8: got the winners of the first three positions.
Speaker 6: And it's tight. I'm not going to tell you what
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Speaker 10: Going to I'm going to be optimistic in that Trayvon Diggs,
Speaker 10: even if he's on a pitch count, I'm going to
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Speaker 10: Seventy eight seventy eight, like said, question marks marks including injury.
Speaker 2: I have two pills. One is higher lower, Okay, I
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Speaker 2: It's seventy one for me, right, okay.
Speaker 7: Okay, seventy eight yeah, okay, I'm sticking with my sticking.
Speaker 2: With it, and part of that layer has had a
Speaker 2: great dron play. Didn't end the season healthy last year. Uh,
Speaker 2: you're looking at a kyri Elam who's honestly for me,
Speaker 2: the best defensive player of the of training camp. Like
Speaker 2: he was my number one defensive player of training camp.
Speaker 2: He made play after play after play. Again, we haven't
Speaker 2: seen it in a game yet, you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: granted he played a little bit of the second preseason game.
Speaker 2: That's not what I'm referring to him, Just referring to
Speaker 2: the chemistry on the field with the defense together. Like
Speaker 2: I said, there's just so many question marks on this defense.
Speaker 3: I don't know yet.
Speaker 2: Man, we got to see it. And then your biggest
Speaker 2: test of the season possibly is Week one against the
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles. I'm not going to that's not gonna be
Speaker 2: my barometer of how they're going to play the rest
Speaker 2: of the season, but like that is just the toughest
Speaker 2: challenge that you can have week one with a group
Speaker 2: that has not played together.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's gonna be baptism by fire. They're going right
Speaker 8: into the mix.
Speaker 2: One hund so for me, a million thousand percent out
Speaker 2: it is unproven.
Speaker 7: Enough numbers he's a gillionaire. Yeah, for sure, it's a
Speaker 7: lot of zeros.
Speaker 2: The phone number. No, it's just very much unproven. I'm
Speaker 2: not I'm concerned, I really am. I would say I'm
Speaker 2: more concerned about that currently than the defensive tackle position.
Speaker 2: And if you have two very concerning positions, I'm just
Speaker 2: I don't know Mann, I don't know GM. If Tommy
Speaker 2: were here, he'd give me a good one. But seventy
Speaker 2: one is where I'm at.
Speaker 8: Pat said seventy eight. Josh said, seventy one. Put in
Speaker 8: your votes now on YouTube. Let us know who wins.
Speaker 8: I would say, like a seventy three, I'd probably lean
Speaker 8: towards the lower end here, just because I'm kind of
Speaker 8: the same way the depth there, question Mark. I like
Speaker 8: what I've seen from some of those guys like Hall
Speaker 8: and like Childress, and who knows if they're even going
Speaker 8: to be on the roster, he said Hall. I mean,
Speaker 8: of course, I said, it's all he played well throughout
Speaker 8: the preseason. Yeah, that's why he had a nice couple
Speaker 8: of games, and go mean Green, but the uh but yeah,
Speaker 8: it's still relatively unknown.
Speaker 7: That's the thing.
Speaker 8: And another one, and I'm not as confident in Trayvon
Speaker 8: Diggs being ready week one exactly, and I think.
Speaker 7: That probably all that's fair. That's exactly. What would your
Speaker 7: number be without Trayvon? Oh man? Uh wait, what did
Speaker 7: you say?
Speaker 2: Yours was seventy one?
Speaker 7: I'm not even there.
Speaker 4: So you at least have Ron Bland and Kyrie.
Speaker 10: Okay, but still Deron Bland, proven drop off, trying to
Speaker 10: prove Kyri Elam is great camp same thing, right, hadn't
Speaker 10: seen them much in the did we even see him
Speaker 10: in the preseason?
Speaker 7: I think one game? Yeah? So yeah.
Speaker 10: And but behind those three names, if Trevon Diggs isn't there,
Speaker 10: so now it's behind you know, Elam and Bland, you
Speaker 10: have two unproven claimed guys and a specialist.
Speaker 7: I don't even like that. Sixty nine.
Speaker 10: Yeah without without Digs week one, it's it's sixty nine
Speaker 10: for me. With Digs week one, even on a pitch count,
Speaker 10: it does go to seventy eight.
Speaker 6: Okay, So the votes are in, you guys are tied still.
Speaker 6: As as we go to the fire position.
Speaker 8: Group, the final Josh one don't come out Josh one
Speaker 8: interior defensive line, Patrick one edge, Josh one linebacker, and
Speaker 8: then Patrick wins corner by a landslide.
Speaker 7: It's not even done.
Speaker 4: The votes are still coming in and Josh pat still
Speaker 4: won the cornerback room. Got one more to go.
Speaker 7: It's tell me how it feels for me to run
Speaker 7: away from him.
Speaker 4: It's just in one category though you're not running.
Speaker 3: It's small, literally tied talking about a stacking.
Speaker 7: Good days. We're going to game nine. It is four
Speaker 7: to four game.
Speaker 8: Best two words in sports. Game nine, safety position, Josh,
Speaker 8: it is your turn to start.
Speaker 2: What you got it? Let me look at my list here,
Speaker 2: let me look at my list. I know you're you know,
Speaker 2: haven't changed at all.
Speaker 4: This is going to be interesting because you're right, it
Speaker 4: hasn't changed at all.
Speaker 2: But you like your guys. One A. Thomas almost got
Speaker 2: me fired from the press box my first my first
Speaker 2: home game outbursts.
Speaker 7: Yeah, excitement.
Speaker 4: I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: I cheered in the press box and that was a
Speaker 2: mistake that I didn't know until it was already. I
Speaker 2: cheered and then I tried to grab it, like wait, no,
Speaker 2: uh damn it all right? Guys Willie Cooker, donovand one
Speaker 2: Thomas Marquee spell. I like the Safety group. They have
Speaker 2: great chemistry. They've been doing a long time together.
Speaker 7: Eighty three, eighty three okay, solid look on your face,
Speaker 7: you're like.
Speaker 4: To Patrick's Patrick's gonna be like eighty three just to
Speaker 4: tie it.
Speaker 10: We know that boring. Seriously, I'm too much of a
Speaker 10: compared to let it end in a tie too. They're
Speaker 10: joking And now I shan't Malik Hooker his veteran stability.
Speaker 10: Obviously last year there was some some downtimes that you
Speaker 10: would like him to have been in better position. But man,
Speaker 10: what a great camp with the reunion with Matt Eberflus.
Speaker 10: This looks like he's he's revitalized under Matt Eberflus.
Speaker 7: Donovan Wilson.
Speaker 10: As long as we talked about this last year at
Speaker 10: Nausea and when it comes to Donovan Wilson versus Mike
Speaker 10: Simmer scheme, that scheme did not work for Donald way
Speaker 10: too many comforts assignments. Okay, Matt Ebraflus has an attack system.
Speaker 10: Donovan is going to be sent after the quarterback and
Speaker 10: signed to run the sticking lot more. Absolutely so I
Speaker 10: see the potential there. One Yay Thomas, love him, love him,
Speaker 10: love him, loving, has always loved his upside, have always
Speaker 10: loved his upside. Still love his upside. Marquees spell. He's
Speaker 10: back from injury, he looks healthy. We saw what Marquis
Speaker 10: Bell can be as a safety. He can help you
Speaker 10: at linebackers, not fantastic at linebacker, but in the safety
Speaker 10: capacity he can be that. This is a This is
Speaker 10: one of your most solid groups on the depth chart.
Speaker 7: So what did you say? Eighty said eighty three eighty three.
Speaker 10: I don't if you lose any one of these guys
Speaker 10: to injury, the other guy can step up.
Speaker 7: Okay, give me give me an eighty four. Okay, give
Speaker 7: me an eighty eighty three, eighty four.
Speaker 10: I don't have issues with any depth on this safety.
Speaker 10: You lose one, whoever steps up, I'm like, okay, he
Speaker 10: can go get the job done.
Speaker 8: Patrick has in eighty four, Josh has it eighty three.
Speaker 8: I need the votes right this second, because as we're outrowing,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna give you the winner. However, basically, it's do
Speaker 8: you have it higher than Patrick or do you have
Speaker 8: it lower than Josh. That's gonna be your vote. So
Speaker 8: it's coming down to the very wire on whether or
Speaker 8: not it's there. My first thought when it happened was
Speaker 8: eighty three point five because I'm right down and I'm
Speaker 8: just kidding.
Speaker 6: The I would say, like, I don't want to skew
Speaker 6: the votes. I'm not going to skew the votes. I
Speaker 6: do have an opinion.
Speaker 7: I'll give it tomorrow.
Speaker 6: How about that, Okay, because I don't want to skew
Speaker 6: the votes as they're coming in here. Oh wow, yep,
Speaker 6: it's gonna go wowat here we go, Josh Patrick, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna actually have to count these This is not easy.
Speaker 6: All right, everybody that's been watching Cowboys, We're gonna have
Speaker 6: to wait until tomorrow to give you an act.
Speaker 7: Because we are back tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Because we are back tomorrow.
Speaker 7: You know what tomorrow is.
Speaker 10: Say it with your chest Friday, first one of the
Speaker 10: twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Just a little preview for tomorrow.
Speaker 7: Yeah, just all yeah.
Speaker 6: You don't want to pound, you don't want to get
Speaker 6: like that too far into it, but yeah, can't wait.
Speaker 4: Say it with your chest Friday. We'll give you a
Speaker 4: winner tomorrow.
Speaker 8: Maybe we'll have like a little award or something to
Speaker 8: give you to for whoever wins Game nine today, Thanks
Speaker 8: for being a part of it here over the last
Speaker 8: fifty minutes or so.
Speaker 6: For Chris Beam in the back, Josh Rodriguez, Patrick, No
Speaker 6: see Walker. I'm Kyle Yoman saying so long from Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 6: We'll see you for some say with Chest Friday.
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