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Speaker 1: Oh, good time, Casper Bucks Dot time, Good afternoon, and

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Speaker 1: welcome back to training camp, Buffalo Bills Training Camp at

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Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher College. We are back again with our show.

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Speaker 1: It is One Bill's Life for the next three hours.

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Speaker 1: We've got a great line up here, John Murphy and

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, and right off the bat, we're joined by

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Speaker 1: one of our favorite guests, Man from Sirius XM NFL

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Speaker 1: Radio moving the chain. Show there here today at three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Happened to have pet kerwin here. We go off the

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Speaker 1: air at three. Everybody can switch through dial over the

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Speaker 1: series radio and always good man. I never shook hands

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Speaker 1: with a one handicap, right, Yeah, I was telling you

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Speaker 1: he's something. He's tearing it up at Craig burn Up

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Speaker 1: and he's I haven't played since two weekends and you

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Speaker 1: seem to play better than less. You play first, I'll

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Speaker 1: give up the game. I'll be the best guy ever. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't play him. But any guy who starts telling you

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Speaker 1: rounding at all. Yeah it is. We got a big

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Speaker 1: show coming up. We're gonna recap out today's training camp practice,

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Speaker 1: which ended about ten thirty this morning. But Pat is

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Speaker 1: here with his partner Jim Miller to do their serious

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Speaker 1: x M NFL radio show at three o'clock. Right before

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Speaker 1: he came on the air, you said to us, I

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Speaker 1: love coming to Buffalo. Did you mean camp? Did you

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Speaker 1: mean Buffalo? What did you well? I do. I do

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Speaker 1: love coming to Buffalo. First off, they roll it out

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Speaker 1: for us, so we're gonna get all the players we

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Speaker 1: need to talk to. And that doesn't happen in every town.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't happen for us, and we worked for the team, right,

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Speaker 1: look at me some tips on that later. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: that part I like. I like the facility for camp.

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Speaker 1: Some places it's it's not really conducive to being there

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Speaker 1: with the media getting the angles. You need the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to stay walk up and down the sideline today and

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Speaker 1: watch practice. I've been to places I won't mention them

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Speaker 1: a camp tour and the guy will say, you know,

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Speaker 1: stay over here, Well, you can't see anything goes, That's

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Speaker 1: why you're staying over So that's not the case here.

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Speaker 1: I love coming a buffer. You're right in the middle

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Speaker 1: of it with Steve most of the practice that they were, well,

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Speaker 1: we're walking at anytime I get a chance to walk

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Speaker 1: with you guys, and you're getting a perspective, or I'm

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Speaker 1: getting a perspective from guys who've been here for the

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Speaker 1: last couple of days. It's it's more valuable than talking

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Speaker 1: to the coaches. Yeah, you and I were walking up

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Speaker 1: and we were talking about we were today. We were

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Speaker 1: talking about kickoff returns at practice and how that's going

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Speaker 1: to be an all the special teams coaches are like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to be a kick returner this year?

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Speaker 1: You know that kind of thing, because yeah, they've kind

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Speaker 1: multiple reasons. I think when I was at in New England,

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Speaker 1: So that's the first step. The second step is the

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Speaker 1: Radio Steve and I here until three o'clock today Paddleby

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Speaker 1: broadcasting his show at three o'clock. While we're talking about

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Speaker 1: new rules and changes, there's a lot of commotion already

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Speaker 1: an explanation from the officiating crew and CA, I'm away confused,

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Speaker 1: I think if they enforce that rule properly, they'll be

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Speaker 1: winning play. An outfit comes the flag and that'll cause

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Speaker 1: Monday Radio to be as predicted frustrating. Yeah, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: and that's really the slippery slope you don't want to

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, it's gonna make a division make or

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Speaker 1: call that when they moved the line judge behind the quarterback, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: new catch rule. They've left some ambiguity there, but it

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Speaker 1: seems like nobody's complaining about that yet. First off, they

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Speaker 1: Well that's the day. And I told Murphis during this

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Speaker 1: and there's gonna be instances where it's gonna be challenged

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Speaker 1: and to complicate it more, a lot of the best

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Speaker 1: a botified three way quarterback competition, right. I mean, any

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Speaker 1: one of these guys would not be a stunner if

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Speaker 1: any one of them started September ninth. Yeah, So I've

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Speaker 1: the Jets. They're real bad in the area of reps.

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Speaker 1: So you have to sooner rather than later pick your

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Speaker 1: It's an even split three ways. Yeah, and it sounds

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Speaker 1: one kid. So I think Josh Allen was a great pick,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think i'd rush them onto the field

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Speaker 1: When do you want to make it? But I would

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Speaker 1: make it next week before a preseason game number because

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Speaker 1: hope that they understand it. So that takes the courage

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Speaker 1: of conviction of who you like and mccaren without watching

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Speaker 1: anything but one practice, and that's never enough to evaluate anyone.

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Speaker 1: He has a grass with us. He's been in there,

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Speaker 1: he's been around the league for you, So I would

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Speaker 1: take that chance. And I think there's enough pass rushers

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Speaker 1: matter when you know who you're in there with and

426
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 1: how they play at every position, not just you and

427
00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,680
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and the receivers, but also the offensive line

428
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,880
Speaker 1: run backs. Explain why it's so difficult to get better

429
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,680
Speaker 1: when you're installing all this new stuff and you got

430
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 1: different guys to play with every play. Yeah, you know,

431
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 1: we're trying to build chemistry, so obviously that comes with

432
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 1: a lot of reps a lot of time when you're

433
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,159
Speaker 1: rotating guys. You know, there's some you know, things that

434
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 1: you gotta get used to some familiarity that's not necessarily there.

435
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 1: But you know, that's what this time of years for.

436
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 1: And I think we're making huge strides to get there,

437
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 1: and you know, just get the chemistry to trust in

438
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 1: the field, down with with the whole huddle. As you know, Nathan,

439
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 1: there's a quarterback paddle and it's been well chronicled, well

440
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,159
Speaker 1: covered in the media. And today you got much of

441
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 1: your work with the Ones and that'll be noted, right

442
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 1: Does that matter when you're out there? I know you don't.

443
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,439
Speaker 1: You want to play with everybody, You want to have

444
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 1: a relationship with everybody. But when you know you're going

445
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 1: to get most of your work with the Ones, you

446
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, this is a good day for me.

447
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 1: This is a chance for me to show something here.

448
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, it necessarily matters like that.

449
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 1: I mean, every day is a great opportunity. You know,

450
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 1: we get to go against such great guys, play with

451
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 1: such great guys, and you know, it's the NFL, and

452
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 1: to have the opportunity to be in a camp and

453
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, compete for a starting job is awesome. And

454
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 1: you know something that I'm definitely you know chairson and

455
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: going after and uh, you know, and I think whatever

456
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: they put in front of me, I'm gonna go DoD

457
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 1: it's the best my ability. I think it was the

458
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: first play of teamwork down here red zone and you're

459
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 1: looking for Calvin Benjamin as you probably you should when

460
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 1: you're down that close and tradevious, White just made a

461
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 1: great play. You can talk about that play. He made

462
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: a great pick and and you know Benjamin was as

463
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: open as you'll you'll want to see him down there.

464
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 1: But Davious White is a player. He is He's a

465
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: great player, great matchup, and that's the competition you know that,

466
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: um you want to see this time of year, and

467
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 1: it's great when we have it, you know. And on

468
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: our O team, you know, inter squad and um Tredevious

469
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: one of the top corners I think in this league.

470
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: And Kelvin one of the top receivers in this league.

471
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 1: So um, you know, just trying to give him a

472
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 1: chance to go make a play, and um, you know,

473
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: I think it's it's been a great battle back and

474
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,199
Speaker 1: forth between them. We're all watching the wide receiver battle. Obviously,

475
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin is the guy that you kind of you

476
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 1: can kind of rubber stamp him. He's gonna be on

477
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: the field when you guys go live, tell us talk,

478
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 1: go down the line about it. Give us a little

479
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: thumbnail about you guys. I know, you throw to all

480
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: these guys and you kind of start to categorize them

481
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: and kind of understand them. Give us a little thumbnail

482
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 1: on the guys going down the roster. I mean here,

483
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm here, there's everyone, there's the there's you got like

484
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 1: fifty two wide receiving. You know, you got a whole

485
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: line of them. But all these guys bring a little

486
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,959
Speaker 1: something to the table, or otherwise they wouldn't be here.

487
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: Now we do. We have We have so many guys,

488
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, Um, guys that are great in the slot,

489
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: you know, great with have have a little wiggle to them,

490
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: that know how to get open um certain situations. You know,

491
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: guys that have speak and stretch the ball down the field.

492
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 1: UM good in and out of their cuts. And you

493
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: know guys that you know just go up and make plays.

494
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 1: And that's really what all of them do well is

495
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: is they want the ball. Um. You know, Coach dabl

496
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: has done a great job of moving them all around,

497
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: giving them different shots and um, I think guys have

498
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: done great when they've had the chances try to make place.

499
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: There was one other red zone played towards the end

500
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: one of the I think it was the last team

501
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: session when you found it was either Towbridge or Kyrie

502
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: Lee kind of low in the end zone with the

503
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: dutch down pass was it was it lead ye? Okay,

504
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 1: talk about that playing and now you know you got

505
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: to have the ability to to throw or he's open

506
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: kind of which did it was kind of a low

507
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: pass that he gathered in. Yeah, so it's man coverage. Um,

508
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: and really you know on that route, you're trusting card

509
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: to win all the way. You know, I'm trying to

510
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: look the safety off it to make sure it's not

511
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: two on one, it's only one on one. And then

512
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 1: Carry does a great job beating his guy, and I'm

513
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: just trying to give him a ball at an easy

514
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: ball to catch and um, you know, score touchdown and

515
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: he did a great job going to get it and

516
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 1: then uh, you know scoring You guys have also more

517
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: so than anybody the quarterbacks kind of you guys gotta

518
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: take snaps. You got um, You've got Alan Adam Redman,

519
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: you got Ryan Groy and of course Russell Bowdon and

520
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: you guys, you know, you got to work with all

521
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: three of them, and they talk a little bit about

522
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: the battle that's going on. I mean, Russell Bowin is

523
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,239
Speaker 1: approven player. Groy was here, you're very familiar with him,

524
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,719
Speaker 1: and of course Redman is brand new coming out of Harvard.

525
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about the you know, you guys

526
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: gotta get the snap down for each of them. Do

527
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 1: they how much do they tailor their snaps for each

528
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,239
Speaker 1: one of you guys? That's different. I mean there's got

529
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: to be a lot of conversations about it. His job

530
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: one every play, Yeah, I mean, you know that's something

531
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: we started to practice with obviously back center. So um,

532
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: you know it's uh, they don't taper for us at all.

533
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: It's more us tapering for them what they like. Um.

534
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: And it's just about like I've been talking about his chemistry,

535
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get it with each and every guy.

536
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: And right now there's a lot of shuffle going around

537
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: where you get work with you know, different guys. But

538
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: I think that's good. You know, it's uh, you know,

539
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: you never know what could happen in the season two.

540
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 1: So um, being able to get work with with all

541
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: those guys is important you Steve and I were patting

542
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: ourselves on the back because we really paid attention today

543
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: to practice. Isn't really for the first time. Yeah, there

544
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: we go. Thank actually, thanks for doing But there was

545
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: one red one more red zone question I have for you.

546
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: There was one red zone period that looked like it

547
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: was focused on the running gate. Is that right? And

548
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: you got some pretty good runs from Shady from Priss

549
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: ivery and yeah, we had some great downhill runs and um,

550
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: I thought the offensive line did a great job opened

551
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: up holes. And that's been an emphasis, you know, of

552
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: establishing our identity, establishing a line of scrimmage and um,

553
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, trying to open up some of those holes

554
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: to get those guys downhill. And they did a great job,

555
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: you know, in space, making guys miss and then just

556
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: getting the ball straight downhill. You're paying attention right pretty much.

557
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: It has a hard time holding my attention. But I

558
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,239
Speaker 1: was looking, I was watching Talk Talk a little bit.

559
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: Now you guys are installing offense day ball is new,

560
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 1: you guys are everything's brand new for you guys. You've

561
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: gone through the OTAs and the mini camps and now

562
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: it's for real. I mean, you're really putting it in.

563
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna use this stuff in games. Talk about how

564
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: that's going in is you know, can you describe what

565
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: the offense is gonna look like? Is? Nobody knows what's

566
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna look like. It's gonna be new players running a

567
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: new offense. Uh, new quarterbacks, you know, talk about how

568
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: different it's gonna be and and some of the things

569
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: you like about it. Yeah, well it's there's gonna be

570
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: a lot of movement. I think, you know, a lot

571
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: of creativity you're gonna see from coach Dabele. And um,

572
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, like you said, with camp, the intensities

573
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: up a little bit. You know, we did a great

574
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 1: job in OTAs I thought of installing this offense, everybody

575
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: getting familiar with it. But you know, now guys are

576
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: expected to know what they're doing and uh, if we've

577
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: been through it once already, and um, so now we're

578
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: going out there trying to make plays. And that's that's

579
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: really what it comes down to, is Coach Dabel does

580
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: a great job moving guys around, but at the end

581
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: of the day, it's it's about us players making plays.

582
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: And um, you know, that's what we're gonna focus on

583
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: and hopefully we see in the preseason and the regular season.

584
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: Hey we say when we have josh On, but it's true.

585
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: For I think all three of the quarterbacks day ball

586
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 1: is right there, right in your ear, right in your face. Right.

587
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: He's not shy. It's not like he's designed all these

588
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: plays and he's looking from above. He's right in your

589
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: face almost every play after the play, right he is.

590
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: And that's type of coach he is. And he he

591
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: gets fired up. He gets in the huddle a couple

592
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: of times and I'm like, easy, coach, I need to

593
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: call the play and stuff. But um no, he's great.

594
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: That that intensity I think, you know, rubs off on

595
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: the whole offense and um something that they can really

596
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: feed off of and feel that that energy from him.

597
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: With Nathan Peterman, Bill's second year quarterback here at the

598
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: training camp. Big picture, Nate, Um, you know where you're

599
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: at your second year and you're in a three three

600
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: man quarterback competition. Um, it's probably I'm not saying it's

601
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: an ideal circumstance, but not a bad place to be

602
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: in based on where you were a year ago. I

603
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: would think in terms of a chance to win a

604
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: starting job here. Huh absolutely, you know, like I said,

605
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: I'm just extremely thankful to have the opportunity, um to

606
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: go compete every day, you know, um being in a

607
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: camp NFL camp, there's only thirty two of these, and

608
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: you know so many guys even just want to be

609
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: in camp. So UM to start with thankfulness from there

610
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: and then to being a competition and you know, vying

611
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: for the starting job is something you know, I'm I'm

612
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 1: very thankful for, but um also going going after with

613
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: all my heart and putting a lot of work in.

614
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: One of the things you have that the others don't

615
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: have is I mean you don't have Dable. But many

616
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: of the coaches on your side of the ball know

617
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: you from a year ago, right, They saw you play

618
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: a couple of times, a couple of starts. It's got

619
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: to be an advantage, right, they know they can trust

620
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: you with certain things. Yeah, I don't know. I mean,

621
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, coach Dable, I'm sure I was able to watch,

622
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, everything that happened last year. But it's good

623
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: for me to have familiarity with those guys, you know,

624
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: because certainly talk to other positions, other position coaches and

625
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, talk about chemistry. I mean it's it's important

626
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: with the staff I think as well. So, UM, I

627
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: thought we've done a great job, just just continuing to

628
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: build on that. What's been the communication between Sean McDermot

629
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: and Brian Dable to you three quarterbacks about the plan?

630
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: What going forward? What do you anticipate happening? What are

631
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: they told you is definitely gonna happen, and what are

632
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: they and what are they said We're gonna have to

633
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: wait and see about. Yeah, I don't know. Just to

634
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: go out there and compete, you know every day I

635
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: go where they tell me, Um, as far as rep wise,

636
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm ready to go out and you know,

637
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: be the best I can be every time. So um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think it to get too far ahead

639
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: of yourself is is a little too much. Sometimes you

640
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: just kind of got to take it one time, one

641
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: day at a time, um, and then go from there.

642
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: Have you ever been in a situation like this before

643
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: at Pitt or prior to that, where you were had

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00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: this much competition, you know, before season began for for

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00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: a starting job. Yep, yep, uh, you know basically a

646
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: lot of years Um, at Tennessee and Pitt as well.

647
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: You know, competed, had to earn my spot every time.

648
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: And is it a comforting feeling or are you on

649
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: agity thing? No? I think it's it's how football should be.

650
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: You know, everybody should should have to earn their spot,

651
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: you know, and really how life is. You know, it's

652
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: not nothing's given to you. You know, everything's earned, everything's taken,

653
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: and um, you know, to be able to prove that, um,

654
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: is really a great opportunity and what you want and this, uh,

655
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: the starting job. I mean you started at Pitt obviously,

656
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: started at Tennessee before that. To not start last year,

657
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: to not be the start, was that an awkward feeling

658
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: for you? A different feeling and what you got used

659
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: to him as a quarterback? Yeah, obviously you want to

660
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: be the starter. You know. That's that's a goal of

661
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: every kid, you know growing up, is to be a

662
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: starting quarterback in the NFL. UM. So, yes, I did.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, I had a job to

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Speaker 1: do last year as well, um, you know, being the

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Speaker 1: back of the majority of the time, and you know

666
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: I tried to learn everything I could from Tyrod and um,

667
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 1: you know, our offensive coordinator last year and everything that

668
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: was going on, but um, at the same time be

669
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: ready to play and and try to be ready to

670
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,239
Speaker 1: start when it came. What what are some of the

671
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: things that you notice about this training camp? This is

672
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: Sean mcdermot's second one, your second one, and what's I know,

673
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of new faces. What's the big difference

674
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: that this camp and last camp. What do you feel

675
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: it's like, wow, this is way different. Well, I don't

676
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: know if it's a huge difference. Obviously the faces are different,

677
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Speaker 1: you know, and I was a rookie last year. Things

678
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: were kind of you know, going pretty fast for me. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think I've I've calmed down, got a

680
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: little bit more familiarity, comfortability with everything, and UM, you know,

681
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: I know it's intent out there today even you know,

682
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: and that was good just to see the intense competition, Um,

683
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: guys getting better every day and the compete in against

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Speaker 1: each other. I'm sure most interviews you do people want

685
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: to ask you about the Chargers game. I don't. I

686
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: want to ask you about the second start the Colts

687
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: game and your mindset, UM trying to I know there

688
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: was snow forecast for that day, but not to the

689
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: extent that it happened, right, I mean, do you recall

690
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: your feeling like Saturday night, Sunday morning, going into that start,

691
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: knowing that you'd beat the starter that day. Yeah, you know,

692
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: obviously I was thankful for another opportunity, and uh, you know,

693
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: it was trying to go out there and put my

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Speaker 1: best foot forward help us win. Um. And it was

695
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: crazy because there wasn't any snow about an hour before

696
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: the game, right, yeah. Practice everyone's like warmed up was fine. Right,

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Speaker 1: Everybody's like it's called for snow. I'm like, it might

698
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: be a little windy, but I don't know about snow.

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00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: Come out for warm ups and it's it's, you know,

700
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: foot down on the ground already. So it was fun.

701
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: Definitely an experience I've never had before. But you know,

702
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: to get that win, you know, even though I wasn't

703
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: able to finish with the you know, injury and everything,

704
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: but um, to start us off well and and put

705
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: my best foot forward and have my part in that win,

706
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: I was special for me. Would you do just shorten

707
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: the playlist down? I mean right, I mean yeah, certain

708
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: stuff you couldn't do, and well it was super Wendy

709
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: still with all that snow so you know which way

710
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: you're going on the field had a big, big way

711
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: effect on what we could do offensively. Was it was

712
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: fun though? It was fun to win, Yes, for sure.

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Speaker 1: I know the lineman loved it because that pass Russ

714
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: wasn't coming as fast and it was easier. You know,

715
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: Guy's footing wasn't what isn't as good, but you know,

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00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: luckily we were still being able to make some plays,

717
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: score some points. What's your goal for this camp? Where

718
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: do you want to be when camp ends in a

719
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: couple of weeks? Man, My goal obviously used to be

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Speaker 1: a starter. You know, it's a competition, and um, that's

721
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: my goal absolutely, and um you know the Bill chemistry

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00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: with our receivers, with our whole um offense, and to

723
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: have that nailed down and be ready fresh, you know,

724
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: ready to go on week one. We're pulling for you.

725
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: Thank you for doing today. Appreciate it. Man quarterback Dainton

726
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: Peterman joining us here at training camp. John Murphy, Steve Tasker.

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00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: It's one Bill's Live from Bill's training camp and this

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the show. John

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Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker Company Alive from Buffalo training camp.

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Speaker 1: Another beautiful day here in Pittsburgh, New York. The temperature

731
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Speaker 1: in the low eighties. It was a little rainy this

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Speaker 1: morning when you and I got up and made the

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Speaker 1: trip down here. By the way, you're holding up. Okay,

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00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: about one picked up Steve at six fifteen this morning,

735
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: and the first words out of my mouth I said

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Speaker 1: too early, and he goes as if to say, yeah,

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00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: way too early. But it's good. We got a lot

738
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Speaker 1: done here today, some taped interviews. You saw coach mcdermot's

739
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: news conference, you saw all the practice. It was good

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Speaker 1: to be here that all our guys are in town.

741
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Speaker 1: Evan Washburn, Pat Gwin, we got We got a chance

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Speaker 1: to talk to the quarterbacks. Peter King coming up on

743
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: the show in a few medicine phillips. Yeah, you know

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00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: you're all right, though you're not you're not feeling that

745
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: you didn't nap. Didn't nap. It's a great day have

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00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: Steve here at training camp. We saw a pretty good

747
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: practice here today. Heavy As Nathan Peterman said, hey, let's

748
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: get you into our Twitter poll today because we liked

749
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: this question. It requires some explanation, which is okay, and

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00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: Steve You'll be happy to know that our Twitter poll

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00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: today is getting pretty even results, which I know was

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00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: your signal for a good question, right. You love when

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00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: that happened. Who will be this year's Buffalo Bill's X Factor?

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00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: Which player will be this year's Bills X Factor? When

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00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: the topic came up, I asked our producer Jay Harris,

756
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: define X factor for me please. He looked it up.

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00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: It's a special quality, difficult to describe, but it's a

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Speaker 1: person with a strong but unpredictable influence on any endeavor,

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00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: this meaning twenty eighteen Buffalo Bills. So we came up

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Speaker 1: with a couple of names. Who will be this year's

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00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's X factor? The guy that is unpredictable. You

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00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: don't know that he's gonna do this, but if he

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00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: does play well or poorly, I guess if we want

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00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: to go that way, he would have a big influence

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Speaker 1: how this season goes. Our Twitter poll, who will be

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Speaker 1: this year's Buffalo Bill's X Factor? We have three names

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Speaker 1: up there, plus the always We have other Charles Clay

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Speaker 1: tight end, Vante Davis cornerback, Zay Jones wide receiver, and other.

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Speaker 1: Right now, thirty percent of you have somebody else in mind,

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Speaker 1: love to hear who you're thinking. Give us a call.

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Speaker 1: Eight oh three oh five fifty or two three one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Twenty seven

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Speaker 1: percent of you say Charles Clay, twenty four percent of

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Speaker 1: you Vonte Davis, nineteen percent of you say the X

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00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: factor player will be Zay Jones. I'm gonna go on

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00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: offense because I do think that's look. I'm counting on

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo defense to be pretty solid this year, so

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00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: I'll leave Vonte Davis off to the side offense either

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00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: one of those two. But I'm gonna say Charles Clay

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Speaker 1: steam From what I've seen of the offense five practices

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00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: so far, they're gonna work things over the middle a

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00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: little bit more than they have, and I think that

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Speaker 1: plays right into what Charles Clay can provide to this team. Now.

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00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: He's been productive in his years with the Bills, productive

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00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: but not sensational, not game breaking type player. He might

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00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: turn into much more of a threat in the passing

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00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: game based on what I've seen here and based what

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00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: I think Charles Clay is capable of. So my X

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Speaker 1: factor for this year's Bills would be tight end Charles Clay.

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven percent of our respondents agree with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'll tell you this, thirty percent of the respondence

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00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: had something other in mind. I think one of them

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00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: might speak for a lot of the lot of the

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Speaker 1: listeners and viewers. Sipping the koup Laid tweets Brian daboles

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Speaker 1: the X factor. He appears to be creative and innovative

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00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: and twenty one personnel, which usually gets you a base

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00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: defense with three linebackers. He spread out the fullback, running

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00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: back and tight end wide with an empty set to

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Speaker 1: create a mismatch and with motion, it tells the quarter

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Speaker 1: quarterback what the defense defense is doing. Don't count this

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00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: offense out? Yeah you think? And I've always said, UH,

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Speaker 1: coordinators are the guys that can be at and if

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00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: you're looking off the field, I don't think there's any

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00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: question Brian Dable is going to be UH a big

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00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: factor and what happens with this team. I don't think

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00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: there's any any refuting that. And that's a that's a

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00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: great UH. It's a great insight. By sipping the kool aid,

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Speaker 1: which I've been promoting all off season, coordinators are sipping cooler,

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00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 1: Sip cooler, um, you're sipping some now. Yeah. Here's here's

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Speaker 1: something from the tweet sheet that I like. This come from.

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Speaker 1: This comes from Tom Spence. When we asked the question

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Speaker 1: who's gonna be this year's Buffalo Bill's X factor player?

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Speaker 1: I guess we were talking about, he says Charles Clay.

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00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: Tom Spence says, Charles Clay's biggest problem since coming here

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Speaker 1: is targets. In my opinion, with chances he'll be a

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00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: major factor in the passing game, I agree with you,

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00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: Tom Spence. More targets, better places for those targets who

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00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: occur for Charles Clay, and I think he can he

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00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: can be a serious player in this offense, red zone included.

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00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: And he's my guy. He's the guy who I think

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Speaker 1: is going to make a difference that we're not really

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Speaker 1: thinking about. Clay pretty consistent about fifty catches per game

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00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: or per season for the Bills, two or three or

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Speaker 1: four touchdowns in his first three years of the Bills.

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00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: He can do more than that. He can get play

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Speaker 1: so many touchdowns and catch maybe sixty five seventy balls.

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Speaker 1: He's now standing tight in one of the one of

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Speaker 1: the things that's held him back in somewhat respects has

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Speaker 1: been the fact that he's he's got a knee that

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Speaker 1: they like to nurse through. He takes usually takes a

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Speaker 1: day off during the season during the week of practice,

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00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: doesn't practice every day, and because of that sometimes you

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00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: worry about whether he's going to be available to have

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Speaker 1: a big impact. But at this point, he's been pretty

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Speaker 1: much been available all all season, throughout the throughout his career,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with you. He is a really gifted

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Speaker 1: tight end one the Buffalo bill are gonna target a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's particularly day ball and I am I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: see him play this season. Who's your X factor? Give

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Speaker 1: us a call The line's open eight oh three h

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Speaker 1: five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty, or you can do it on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at one. Bill's Live on the tweet sheet from

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Speaker 1: Wandering Jack, a frequent Twitter Contributor's got a good one.

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Speaker 1: He says, I voted for Clay. The best friend of

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Speaker 1: a young unproven quarterback is a good titan who can

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00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: find the soft spots and zones and get open to

848
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: Bill out his quarterback. Also, Clay has the speed to

849
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: get downfield and create big plays day ball and will

850
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: emphasize using him as a mismatch. Don't forget O'Leary here either.

851
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: I like Charles clay. He's my choice. Yeah, and it's

852
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: a it's a great take, and I think that's one

853
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: guy that I think if you're looking for somebody to

854
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: be the X factor, who we haven't seen. This is

855
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: a team that's been relying on Lashawn McCoy for three

856
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: years now, ever since they traded for him. He's been

857
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: the bell cow of the offense. Forget about the run game.

858
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: He's been the guy that has made the offense go

859
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: and and I don't think they're going to deviate too

860
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: much from that. I think there's no questions he's the

861
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: most gifted offensive player. He's still going to be the

862
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 1: engine that runs the offense. But there's no doubt either

863
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: if they can get the more they can get in

864
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: their passing game, the better it's going to be for

865
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: the running game. They were They weren't very good throwing

866
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: the football last year. They were the bottom of the

867
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: league and have been and that's got to change. I

868
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 1: think if anything's going to change, that is the one

869
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: thing that has to change. They've got to have the

870
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: capability of being a threat through the air, or they will.

871
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: And if they can do that, I think they're not

872
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: gonna have to be one of those teams that's just

873
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: trying to win every other game or trying to go seven,

874
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: seven to nine, eight and eight, nine and seven. If

875
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: they can get a productive passing game going to compliment

876
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: an already pretty good running game, particularly with a running

877
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: back like Lashan McCoy, there's no reason to think this

878
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: offense is not going to be much much better than

879
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: it was a year ago. Steve and I hear at

880
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: training camp till three this afternoon. The Bills worked out today,

881
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: no fans allowed. It was a closed practice to the

882
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: public eight forty five until about ten fifteen, ten thirty.

883
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: We're up to a flying start already this hour. Pat

884
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: Kerwin from Sirius Sex m NFL Radio joined us at

885
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: the top of the show. You just heard Nathan Peterman

886
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes ago, Bill's quarterback. Both of those

887
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: segments you'd be able to pick up on our website

888
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: as well on the podcast. Later on after three at

889
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot com, we were at a practice to day.

890
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: I want to ask you because we asked, we've got

891
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: a lot of guests. You're gonna hear from him coming

892
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: up later in the show. But Murph, you and I

893
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: were there and we've we've seen a lot of football,

894
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: and what were your what were your impressions of practice?

895
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: I mean it was a it was a nice, lively,

896
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: hard hitting, padded practice. We gotta hear from the head

897
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: coach before we went out. I mean, it's been a

898
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: full morning, so listen, it was almost worth getting up,

899
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: getting packed up. It's gonna get to that. It was

900
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 1: almost worth getting picked up at six fifteen this morning.

901
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: But when you roll out of bed in the morning,

902
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: stuff happens. You can see. Yeah, I hear that might

903
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: be true. Yeah, stick with me, all right. No, my impressions,

904
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: I saw a lot. I got three pages of notes here.

905
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: There's a ton of stuff going on going on here.

906
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: Big day. Joe on the sidelines today, Bill's wide receiver

907
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: remaining on the sideline. Still on the non football injury list.

908
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: McDermott was asked if he's an update on a timetable

909
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: him he has done. Trent and Murphy got a maintenance

910
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: day of veteran day off today as they take it

911
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: easy on him coming back after the knee. A lot

912
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: of red zone work though, a lot of red zone work,

913
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: both in the individual period and when they got into

914
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: team work. Nathan Peterman got the first reps with the

915
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: Ones today, one of the players that I loved. I

916
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: asked Nate about it, and he didn't, you know, he

917
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: threw an interception. He probably didn't appreciate talking about it,

918
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: but first play and teamwork, red zone teamwork down there.

919
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: He was looking for Calvin Benjamin, which he should by

920
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: the way down on the red zone, and it was

921
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: just a spectacular leaping interception by Tredavious White. And I

922
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: turned around and said to somebody behind me, that kid

923
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: is just spectacular. I think turdeviou as good as he

924
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 1: was last year. He looks like he's gonna be even

925
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: from the first practice in this training camp, Turdavious White

926
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: jumped on a route. I mean, he is he is.

927
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: He just strikes you as a kid who's razor sharp

928
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: right now, ready to play. He could go and play

929
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: game right now as good as anybody in the league.

930
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: He just seems like he's got that that hardened, always

931
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: ready edge. He just seems like the most ready guy

932
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: out there, mostly because he stands out and he's out

933
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: there kind of by himself, and he's always competing against

934
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: the rope White House, so you kind of get a

935
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: chance to see what he's supposed to do, and it's

936
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: always obvious what he is trying. He's trying to cover

937
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: a guy one on one. Man, Oh Man, you're right, Murph.

938
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: I agree with you. He is absolutely razor sharp here

939
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: five days in the training. As usual when you come

940
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: down here this year, you look at quarterbacks, our guests

941
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: a minute ago. Nathan Peterman got most of the work

942
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: with the ones. Today, counter or A. J. Mccarroen got

943
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: worked with the two. Josh Down got worked with the threes.

944
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: One thing about Josh, and I'm hesitant to make too

945
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: many sweeping conclusions, but I do see a pattern developing

946
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: after a week down here. He seems to struggle with

947
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: the short touch passes. Steve. You know, he fires it

948
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: too hard sometimes. We saw it in the red zone

949
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: individual work down here on this field, and even when

950
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: they're in teamwork, you know, he just doesn't have the

951
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: nice touch pass down yet, especially when they were working

952
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: in close quarters all day to day in the red zone. Yeah,

953
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: and I think positive. That's one of the easier things

954
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: to teach, just to just to be able to throw

955
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: it out there. But and those are should be and

956
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: that's a that's a crusher too, because you don't want

957
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: to have a guy that can make all the throws

958
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: except the easy ones that you gotta have. I mean you,

959
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: the ones you have to complete are the ones you

960
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: have to complete, the easy ones, you know, the ones

961
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: that should be a gimme. You've got to make sure

962
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: you get your one hundred percent on those, and you

963
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: got to work on making it perfect. But that Sean

964
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: McDermot was asked about, uh, you know the first game,

965
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: first preseason games coming up in another nine ten days,

966
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: eleven days, and about the quarterbacks and the uh and

967
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: the h you know, the rotation it's gonna go. He says, listen.

968
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: He's like, he's like telling you, listen, we got a

969
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: lot of things to do before we get to actually

970
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: even making the choice as to who's going to start

971
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: that game, who's going to be in that game, the quarterback,

972
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: who's going to be the starter. We got there's a

973
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: lot of things we have to do before that. So

974
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: he's actually he's putting off that stuff they're just trying

975
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: to get. He goes, I got a plan for today. Yeah,

976
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 1: it was a great It was a great answer, because

977
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: if you got a plan for these quarterbacks, who's gonna

978
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: do the first preseason game? He guys, Listen, I got

979
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: a plan for today, and that's what they're sticking to.

980
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: And I think they're doing what's right in front of him.

981
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: It is a good plan. Yes, about my impressions. And

982
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: it's funny you and pet Kurwin talking about the fight.

983
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 1: There were a couple It was online d line drills,

984
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: and I haven't watched a whole lot of that in

985
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: the first four days coming down here. So I watched

986
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: today and fairly early on Dion Dawkins starting left tackle,

987
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: got into it with Eddie Yarbrough coming off the edge.

988
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: Now I'm watching the plan and I'm thinking Dawkins is

989
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: doing a good job of closing out Yarbro. He's not

990
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: getting around the edge, and it looked like Yarbrow got

991
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: a little bit frustrated because he took a little slap

992
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: at the head of Dawkins. Dawkins slapped him back. There

993
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: was another slap, another slap, and the next thing you know,

994
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: they're throwing down and you know, no punch is not landed,

995
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: but it was it was a serious training camp scrap. Yeah,

996
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: they and I was impressed that they both cared that much.

997
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: Quite frankly. They ended up on the ground, yeah with

998
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: you know, and of course there's twenty five other guys there.

999
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: As soon as they started, guys started get coming over

1000
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: to try and break it up, and you know, it

1001
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: ended up. It was a tussle. Yeah, which one thing

1002
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: about it, And I didn't think about this at first,

1003
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: but that fight took a good couple two three minutes.

1004
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: Of these periods that they go through, they're only like

1005
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes long, right, so like a twenty percent of it,

1006
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: or you know, fifteen to twenty percent of this can't

1007
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: taken up by a fight. And then there was another fight.

1008
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: He was kind of I couldn't tell who the old

1009
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: lineman was here, like five minutes of this fifteen minute

1010
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: period or taken up by four guys fighting in two

1011
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: different It was right in front of us. Oh, it's

1012
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: right right, Like I was, we weren't close enough that

1013
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: we had to step away. Yeah, But you don't like

1014
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: in the movie Raging Bowl, like when people are getting

1015
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 1: splattered by. That was Stephen and I in the front row. Right.

1016
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't quite that bad, but yeah, we were we

1017
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: had front row seats. Yeah, we could hear that. We

1018
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: could hear what was being said. It was fun. Yeah.

1019
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: The other place I want to get through observations. Yeah,

1020
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: we're running out of time here, but one more observation.

1021
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 1: And I asked Night Peterman about it. In the red

1022
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: zone eleven on eleven, I think was the final eleven

1023
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: on eleven session, he threw a really good smart low

1024
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: pass to Kyrie Lee, one of the backup tight end,

1025
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: lowing away yep, and Kyrie went down on one knee,

1026
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: caught it, brought it in for a touchdown. Nathan talked

1027
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: about it. It It was it was good catch, but it

1028
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: was a really good throw, and I thought a smart decision,

1029
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: smart throw, because you know they go down there and

1030
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: they throw these red zones, and a problem is when

1031
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: you throw a red zones, it's very crowded and very

1032
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: close and the ball has to be in the right spot.

1033
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: You can throw it the guy where he'll catch it.

1034
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: But if you throw it where it just where you

1035
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: can catch it, there's gonna be a guy there to

1036
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: knock it away or whatever. You gotta throw it where

1037
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: only he can catch it. And not only that, he's

1038
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: got to work really hard to make that catch. And

1039
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: that's what that throw was. It was lowing away from

1040
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: the defender. He had to go all the way down

1041
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: on the ground, rolled over with the catch, and you're right,

1042
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: that was It was an accurate throw, It was a

1043
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: smart throw. It was timed just right. It was one

1044
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: of those times things when it all came together exactly right.

1045
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: It didn't look easy, but it's not supposed to look easy.

1046
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: It's supposed to look like a touchdown. And that's exactly

1047
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: what it was, all right. So we're just getting started here.

1048
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 1: We've had a good first hour with Pat Kerwin from Syria,

1049
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: sex M NFL Radio and Nathan Peterman you heard him

1050
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: coming up still on the show. We're gonna talk with

1051
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 1: Evan Washburn of the NFL on CBS. Harrison Philip's gonna

1052
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: on this next hour, Bills, third and round, draft pick,

1053
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman from Stanford, and Peter King coming up

1054
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: next hour as well, plus your phone calls, your feedback

1055
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,959
Speaker 1: on our topic of the day. That topic is who's

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Speaker 1: the X factor on this Bill's roster. Which player is

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Speaker 1: the X factor? A guy that maybe not people don't

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00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: expect to have much of a role to play, and

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00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: you think might play a role. Give us a call.

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00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: We got lines open. If you're on the hold right now,

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00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: stay there. We'll get to your calls when we come

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00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: back after the top of the hour, or you can

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00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: you can weigh in on our Twitter poll at one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. Who's the X factor for the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: this year? Give us a call of us. Don't you

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Speaker 1: think about that? Steve and I hear two more hours.

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Speaker 1: It is one Bills Live presented by Kalaida Health. We're

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Speaker 1: coming here from Bill's training camp and this is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Falo Bills Radio Network Stories Update. The update

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Speaker 1: from Buffalo Bills training camp where they practice this morning.

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Speaker 1: Back to work for the Bills after hanging yesterday off

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Speaker 1: eight forty five this morning back on the field. They

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Speaker 1: spent a lot of time in red zone work today,

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Speaker 1: both in the run game and in the passing game.

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00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: Second year quarterback Nathan Peterman got in most of the

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00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: work with the first teamers today, followed by A. J.

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00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 1: McCarron and then Josh Allen on the sidelines. Wide receivers

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00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: Zay Jones still on the non football injury list at

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Speaker 1: coache On. Mcturmot says there is no timetable yet for

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00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: his return. Also on the sidelines, Trent Murphy, veteran defensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: a veteran day off maintenance day. According to mcturmot, there

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00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: was a brief scrap during today's one on one where

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00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: goal line versus d line left tackle Dan Dawkins got

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Speaker 1: into it with defensive end Eddie Yarborough. Back on the

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Speaker 1: field tomorrow for the Bills eight forty five am. That

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Speaker 1: practice is open to the public. It is free, no

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Speaker 1: ticket required at eight forty five. Minnesota Vikings and wide

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00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: receivers Stepan Diggs have agreed to a five year contract

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00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: and extension where eighty one million dollars it ties him

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00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: to the team for the next six seasons that keeps

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00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: him through the twenty twenty three including more than forty

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Speaker 1: million dollars in guaranteed money. He's a fifth round selection

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00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen on the receiving end of that Minneapolis

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00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 1: miracle last year in the NFC playoff game. The Bears

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00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: have nothing to say about the status of first round

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00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: drafted Roquan Smith and his contract talks. That after Sam

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00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: Darnold signed his rookie deal yesterday, Roquan Smith the lone

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00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 1: remaining first rounder who has not have a contract yet.

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Speaker 1: UH They reportedly are held up on a number of issues,

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Speaker 1: including the new helmet rule. The Carolina Panther has set

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00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: a serious injury in training camp today. Cornerback Ross Cockrell

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Speaker 1: down with a fractured left tibia and an ankle. And

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Speaker 1: baseball Vlad Guerrero with a Buffalo Bison tonight. The Blue

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Speaker 1: Jays called him up from Double A. Guerrero will play

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Speaker 1: tonight as the Bison's host Le High Valley at Coca

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Speaker 1: Cola Field at the first pitch tonight at seven seven o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Guerrero heading four h two in Double A baseball so

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Speaker 1: far this year. And that's the update from Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: training camps. Bust from the back of training Camp. It

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Speaker 1: is our third broadcast from Buffalo Bills training camp so

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00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: far the season. We're here again tomorrow and again Thursday Friday.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back in Buffalo. John Murphy's Steave Tasker in

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00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: our Buffalo Bills training camp set up at the forget

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Speaker 1: the name of this place, the Pelicano Pavilion. It's right

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00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: down the wall behind us, the Pellicano Pavilion, right here,

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00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: next to grounding. It's the best setup. The practice fields

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00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: are right there. The players have to come through here. Um,

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00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: it's the best setup we've ever had. It's great. I'm happy.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be here still all right. Day

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Speaker 1: three of our training camp ever, the best one I've

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00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: ever had. Two started early today and we got a

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Speaker 1: lot done, with more to come. Peter King's gonna join

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Speaker 1: us in a moment or two. From formerly of MMQB,

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Speaker 1: Peter now with NBC and he started his new Monday

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Speaker 1: morning website edition Football Morning in America. We'll talk with

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Speaker 1: Peter about what he's seen so far as some other

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00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: training camps, and what he sees here with the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to him about how much he likes Pittsford.

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Speaker 1: Orc Steve. He's one of those guys, one of those

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Speaker 1: national media guys who love coming to Pittsford. Everybody loves

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00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: to come out. He travels as much as any writer

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. He uh most of the TV people

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00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: who particularly guys who do TV work go to a

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00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: different venue every week, but he travels all the every week,

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Speaker 1: all over. Yes, he's seen a lot of stuff and

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00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: he loves coming to Pittsford. There's a lot direct ask

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Speaker 1: him about it. Harrison Phillips gonna join us at the

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Speaker 1: bottom of this hour. The Bill third round draft picked

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00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle from Stanford. He's standing by to join

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Speaker 1: us at one thirty and in the two o'clock hour.

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00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: Evan Washburn of the NFL on CBS. He's like you,

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00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: he's a sideline reporter right on the NFL on CBS.

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00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: Better than me. But yes, why would you say that?

1144
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: He's good? He's been doing it, Yeah, you've been. He

1145
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: works with Ian Eagles Dan Fouts in the booth. He

1146
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: um and uh uh like me. They travel every weekend.

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00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: They're going out and doing games and you're kind of

1148
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: it's it's fun and I and I'll have to ask

1149
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: him when he comes on. I always tell people if

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00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: ye say, wow, isn't it nice to watch games from

1151
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: the sidelines, Yeah, it is, but you never you really

1152
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: don't want to do it because once you watch down there,

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00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: you don't want to see it anywhere else. That right,

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00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, do you feel like you

1155
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: really saw It's like watching a stampede right in the

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00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: middle of it. Man, it's it's it'll turn your insides

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00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: to water. Those guys are so big and so polished

1158
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: and so and it the intensity levels way up high. Well,

1159
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's like being in sidelines and training camp. Yeah,

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00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: only it's for real and it's it's so fun when

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00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: you do a game from the sideline. Do you ever

1162
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: feel like you need to go back and watch the

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00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: game on tape to see what happened? We really Well, no,

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00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: I can't see some stuff right, No, you can't see everything,

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00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: but I do. I'm listening to the broadcast on my headphones,

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00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: you know, and so I do get a sense of

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00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: how it's going, what's going on with it, and it's

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00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: um so I do get a sense of what the

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00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: big picture is. But um but it's it's the best

1170
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: seat in the house, really right up close to it. Well,

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Speaker 1: Steve is here. We're here until three o'clock to them.

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Speaker 1: We want to engage with you our Twitter poll and

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Speaker 1: it's our telephone topic as well. And the phone line's

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Speaker 1: open eight oh three five fifty and toll free from

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Speaker 1: outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Pretty simple question. Who will be? Which player will be

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Speaker 1: this year's Bills X factor? Which player will be the

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Speaker 1: person with the strong but unpredictable influence on how the

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Speaker 1: Bills do this year? On Twitter, so far, thirty percent

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Speaker 1: of you go with the other. So you've got somebody

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00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: in mind. Let's hear who it is on the telephone.

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Speaker 1: Nine twenty eight percent of you say tight end Charles Clay,

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00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: that's my vote, twenty three percent of you say Vonte Davis,

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00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: nineteen percent of you say wide receivers A Jones give

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Speaker 1: us a call to discuss eight oh three h five

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Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty. Who's your X factor? Jose and Buffalo on

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Speaker 1: the line with us as a thought on that, Jose,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Good afternoon, guys, And

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Speaker 1: I'm so jealous on your background, I'm jealous. I'm really jealous.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean? How good it looks here? Yeah?

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00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: I'm looking behind you guys. Yeah you want an MSG

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Speaker 1: And I'm just I'm so jealous. You guys got the

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00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 1: perfect seat. I'm just jealous. We do good complaints factor.

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Speaker 1: My ex factor is gonna be Jeremy Curly, believe it

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Speaker 1: or not, um with everybody. You know, defense is opposing

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00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: defenses sitting there, uh, you know, focusing on Clay and uh, Benjamin,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna leave Curly out there. And Curly Curly's proven

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Speaker 1: in this league. You know, he's not no slous you know.

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Speaker 1: And I think that would be a good outlet for

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Speaker 1: Aja Fir mccaron, who I think is going to be

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Speaker 1: the starter. And another point, Steve, I'm drinking the kool aid.

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Speaker 1: You say top ten, I'm still saying top five. Remember this,

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00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: you guys heard it from me first top five people say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of has to happen, Jose, and I

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00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: appreciate that. That's that's nice of you to hear it,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with you. I do think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be a much improved defense, and I do think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be um. They're gonna I think in worst case scenario,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna flirt with that top ten. There's certainly gonna

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Speaker 1: be a top twenty, top fifteen defense. But uh, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be better. But they do have to stay healthy,

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Speaker 1: they have to play well. Their secondary is still is

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Speaker 1: maybe gonna get a huge amount of benefit. We were

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Speaker 1: watching the past rush drills today, the pass rush is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a much improved pass rush than it was

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Speaker 1: a year ago. That spells to more balls thrown when

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Speaker 1: the defense wants him to be thrown rather than when

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Speaker 1: the offense decides to throw it coming out of the pocket.

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Speaker 1: So I agree with you and I it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: fun to see, but I am excited about the front seven.

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Speaker 1: Trent Murphy is going to add something to them. Jerry

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Speaker 1: Hughes is going to have a bounce back here not

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Speaker 1: being able to be double teamed constantly, and from the

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Speaker 1: push from the inside with the star Lotulelee and Kyle Williams,

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Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips, it's gonna be a lot of fun to

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Speaker 1: see this defense take to gain its identity. We certainly

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Speaker 1: don't know exactly what it's going to look like or

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Speaker 1: how productive it will be, but there's no doubt there's

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00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: a lot to be excited about on that side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. You know, his first point about Curley is

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Speaker 1: important too. He probably merited a spot on our Twitter list,

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Speaker 1: but I'm glad he called up, and in fact, we

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Speaker 1: have a on the tweet sheet, somebody said exactly the

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Speaker 1: same thing. Jonathan Gates said, his X factors select and

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Speaker 1: as Jeremy Curley, he's been productive and teams will focus

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Speaker 1: on Shady and Kelvin Benjamin Good points and Curly has

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Speaker 1: been productive going into his eighth years. Split time last

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Speaker 1: year between the Jets and the forty nine ers, but

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Speaker 1: he's caught passes he had I'm looking at his numbers here.

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00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: He had a fifty six catch year in twenty and

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Speaker 1: twelve with a couple of touchdowns, forty three receptions the

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Speaker 1: year after that, thirty eighth the year after that. Curly

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00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: knows how to play at least, you got to say

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00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: that much. Yeah, if he's been dependable, and that's one

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Speaker 1: of been one of the things that you like about him.

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Speaker 1: The guy nothing's gonna scare him out there. He's not

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Speaker 1: going to be a guy who's not gonna be in

1249
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: the right spot. That's how you stay in the league.

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Speaker 1: As long as Curly has you're in the right spot,

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00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna get open. Your quarterback is gonna like you

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00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: and gonna want to throw you the football. There is

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00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: a lot to like about what he has shown he's

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00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: able to do in the past, and it's all a

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Speaker 1: lot of it, and we've gotten some tweets about this.

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Speaker 1: It's all gonna come down to the guy pulling the trigger,

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00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: and we don't know exactly who that's gonna be. D

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00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: Daniels Ross. He says, whoever our quarterback ends up being

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00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: is how the team will go. No one other position

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00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: will make or break the bills like our quarterback this year.

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Speaker 1: So we're talking X factor. Yeah, anybody, we're talking, but

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Speaker 1: the unpredictable guy on the fringe, somebody's going to emerge.

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00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: It's going to be a real surprise. I think Jeremy

1264
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: Curley is a great example of that. Uh. I think

1265
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: Charles Clay could also be an example that all the

1266
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: Charles Clays guy who's had fifty catches every year he's

1267
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: been here, I don't know how much of an X

1268
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: factor he'll be unless he has one of those eighty

1269
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 1: five ninety catch seasons and ten touchdowns. That's the kind

1270
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: of year would be great to see from your tight end.

1271
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: We had Zay Jones on our list of potential X

1272
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: Factor players on our Twitter list, and just because he's unpredicted,

1273
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: because he hasn't practiced yet. We don't know when to return.

1274
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: In fact, today, head coach Sean McDermott this morning before

1275
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: practice was asked about Zay Jones. He's on non football

1276
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: injury list right now and McDermott was asked if he

1277
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 1: is any kind of a timetable or an updated timetable

1278
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: on Zay Jones. Here's what the head coach had to say. Yeah,

1279
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: it hasn't hasn't changed from what we um the way

1280
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: we started off camp really soud. It's it's right now.

1281
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: You know, you saw him out there running the other day.

1282
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: We'll continue to move in the right direction at this point.

1283
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: That point when he is ready to go, I mean,

1284
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: can you can he be expected to jump right into

1285
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: it and and you know, get full reps and all

1286
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: that with all the off times that he's at. Yeah,

1287
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: I mean we'll try and phase him in, you know,

1288
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: like we do with all of our players when they're injured.

1289
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: And I always want to know, it's an interesting question

1290
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: you ask, because I always ask our trainers, Hey, when

1291
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: you say he's back, does that mean he's full go

1292
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: full reps? Does that mean he's you know, that's the

1293
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: first day he's back on the practice field. So we

1294
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: have a plan to move him so that when he

1295
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: does come back, um, he'll be you know, probably a

1296
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: little bit limited to start off, and then and then

1297
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: get him going from there. Hey, it shouldn't surprise anyone

1298
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: that Sean McDermott has a plan right for what to do?

1299
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: Was a Jones. He's got a plant. Yeah, Now I

1300
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: work the plan. And that plan is called a process,

1301
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: and we're gonna work the process. Got a plan. Speaking

1302
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: of receivers X Factor candidates, Don and Buffalo on the

1303
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: phone with us has an idea on that, Don, go ahead,

1304
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Oh sure. Rod Streeter, he had

1305
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: an enormous preseason last year. I thought it was gonna

1306
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: be a real factor. We need to speed. But he

1307
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: comes back really strong this year. I vote Rob Steer.

1308
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot like that vote. He was another one

1309
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: I thought, In fact, I think I was voted down

1310
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: by you and our producer. I said, let's put Rod

1311
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: Street around this. I said, Rod Streeter. Oh he didn't.

1312
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: I think I did. Didn't I say that? Jay, Here's

1313
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: why said I appreciate Rod Streeter a lot because he

1314
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: had the good preseason last year and he's a pro.

1315
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: You know, I like guys who go out there and

1316
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: he knows the score, he knows what he's up against

1317
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: and where he's at. He knows what happened last year.

1318
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: And I like Rod Streeter, I think for that reason.

1319
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: And he's also he's always flashed a couple of times.

1320
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 1: This year, he seems to be taking up right where

1321
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: he left off. Streeters, a guy who came in here

1322
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: as a free agent, came he was with the Raiders

1323
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: for a while and you know, came in, didn't wasn't

1324
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: a well known guy came in and really flashed last

1325
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: year in training camp, and he's doing an exact same

1326
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: thing again this year. When he gets an opportunity and

1327
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: there's like twenty receivers. I'm exaggerating, but you know, if

1328
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: the thirteen receivers that are in camp, you're not getting

1329
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: a rep every every two or three seconds, you get

1330
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: one every two or three minutes. And every time he's

1331
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: in there, he has shown well and he's and he's

1332
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: flashed yea, And every opportunity he's gotten, he's made the

1333
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: most of us so far in camp. So that's a

1334
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: great call. And wouldn't it be nice for the Buffalo

1335
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: Bills if they got a wide receiver to step up

1336
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: and be a huge X factor for the season. You

1337
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: know you asked me last hour about my impressions. I

1338
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: didn't give you a chance. There is there anything that

1339
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: you saw today that impressed you or you made a

1340
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: note of it? You did take notes? Yeah, this I did.

1341
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: I do have thanks for the paper. By the way,

1342
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: sure you weren't prepared to take notes, but you I

1343
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: brought it. I did bring a pen. Uh No. The thing,

1344
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: the thing that got me was, and well Peter King

1345
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: alludes to this in our interview is the is the

1346
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: fact that this really seems like everybody from in the

1347
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: football end of the Buffalo Bills, from the head coach

1348
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: and the general manager all the way down through the players,

1349
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: the equipment guys, there really seems to be a sharp

1350
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: focus on the task at hand. Every day. They've got

1351
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: specific things they want to do, and the players that

1352
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: are performing those acts and the coaches that are going

1353
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: written them through that all seem to be entirely focused

1354
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: on getting better and doing getting certain things accomplished. There

1355
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: is no there's no freewheeling, fun loving group. Now they're

1356
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: having a lot of fun well, and we've seen shades that.

1357
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: But this is a very tightly run camp. I mean

1358
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: it is buttoned up. And I don't mean buttoned up

1359
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: secret like that. I mean they are crossing their tees

1360
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: and dotting their eyes and underlining it for an emphasis.

1361
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: They are. It is a camp that is very disciplined,

1362
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: very on point, all the time. And you look at

1363
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: all the drills, the coaches, the ancilliary people that are

1364
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: always there, the ball boys, the trainers and and not

1365
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: the head coach and the players. They are men. They

1366
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: are on it. Yeah, and I and it's hard to

1367
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: say that way. Yes, man, I'm telling you it is

1368
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: a disciplined I mean choreographed. Everything is button did you

1369
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying? Yeah, no work, There is no

1370
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: tiddley wings, fun loving, you know, guys laughing off a sudden.

1371
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: Men they are they are watching what's going on if

1372
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: they're not doing it. And it's it's I never really

1373
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 1: thought about until you ask me that. But man, oh man,

1374
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: they are they are buttoned up, Yes they are, and

1375
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: they were most of them. It is a serious I

1376
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: mean they were having fun. I don't get that, don't thing.

1377
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: This isn't the Patriots here like where there's no fun.

1378
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: This is a buttoned up, disciplined crew from top to

1379
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: bottom and everything they do and it shows well to

1380
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: your fun point. Yeah, they're having fun, but you know why,

1381
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: and this goes to the type of guys they bring

1382
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: in here. They're having fun because these guys like to compete,

1383
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They love to compete with

1384
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: each other and for each other. And I think that's

1385
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: why they're having fun. That that's part of the enjoyment

1386
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: of the game. And that's when you that's the work

1387
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: they do. You know, you see a player, how how

1388
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: does he jump, how fast does he run? How much

1389
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: does he like to compete? I think this group, being McDermott,

1390
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: all of those scouts and coaches, they'd like to find

1391
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: the guys who want to embrace the competition that they're

1392
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: putting out. I agree completely, and and that's the thing

1393
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: that kind of overrides everything they brought in these guys.

1394
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: These guys are loving being in training camp and competing

1395
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: and doing this. They love the hard work, they love

1396
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: the nuts and boats, they love the technique, they love

1397
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: the film study, they love and being around each other.

1398
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: They're having fun being in it. Together. Yeah, and it's

1399
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: a real discipline, serious vibe with a bunch of guys

1400
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: who are loving what they're doing. A lot of national

1401
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: media in here. Today. We started the show with Pat

1402
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: Curran from Serious x M NFL Radio, Evan Washburn from

1403
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: the NFL on CBS coming up in about an hour

1404
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: or so, and we had a chance just before we

1405
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: went on the One on the Air at noon talk

1406
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: with a good friend of the show. He's been around

1407
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: for years, Peter King from NBC Sports and a brand

1408
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: new website that he's doing for NBC Sports is First

1409
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: Monday column went up yesterday Football Morning in America. Peter King,

1410
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: of course, longtime NFL reporter for Sports Illustrated, SI dot

1411
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: Com and MMQB. Peter's going to be with us on

1412
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: a regular basis during the regular season, starting Tuesday, September eleventh,

1413
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: two days after the Bill's opener. We'll check in with

1414
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: Peter King every Tuesday at two pm on our show,

1415
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: Steve and I'll check in with him to get his

1416
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: observations on not just the Bills, but the rest of

1417
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. We're looking forward to that. But we had

1418
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: a chance a moment ago to sit down with a

1419
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: good buddy about Steve and mine. Peter King from NBC Sports.

1420
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: All right, Peter King joins us from NBC Sports. Peter,

1421
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: thanks very much visit to Bills Camp for you. You

1422
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: are one of those guys who I think has a

1423
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: true appreciation of this camp in pittsforgh, New York. I've

1424
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: read this. I know that you're one of the Pittsford

1425
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: lovers that are out there in the media. I mean,

1426
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: if you don't love coming to Pittsford and afterwards your

1427
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: first stop is at the Dairy Barn to get the

1428
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: black raspberry milkshake. I've had eight of them in my life,

1429
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: and uh, I would rather uh you know, if you

1430
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: took that black raspberry milkshake away from me, I would

1431
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: die a slow and ugly and tortuous death. I must

1432
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: have my milkshake from the Pittsburgh Dairy Barn every year. Anyway,

1433
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: what's the great what's the great beer of the lately?

1434
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: I was just in Uh, we were just in in Pittsburgh,

1435
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: and uh, Steve, you know what is great about traveling

1436
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: the country. Every single place you go to has there's

1437
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: this beer craze in America now with all the craft beers.

1438
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I mean, I'm sure there's got to be

1439
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: seven of them in Buffalo, you know, seven places in Buffalo,

1440
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: But because I'm not there, I won't see it. And

1441
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: we have to kind of high tail it out of

1442
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: here today to go to West Virginia. But but so

1443
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: I don't know every place I go to. I'm trying

1444
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: these different weird beers. I had a beer in Philly

1445
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: the other day called Tonewood Freshies that is an American

1446
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: pale ale that I just said, how do I get

1447
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: this beer? And you can. It's from a tiny little

1448
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: brewery in Oakland, New Jersey. But everything about traveling now

1449
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: to me is sort of centered around where are we

1450
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: going to get the good, the good brewpub beer this year?

1451
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: So no beer for you here. But you did get

1452
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: a look at the bills and practice today. Give me

1453
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: your impressions. What do you think? Yeah, Brian day Ball

1454
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: asked me, and I said, I was impressed with mccaren.

1455
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,959
Speaker 1: You know, mccaren had a good day. I thought Josh

1456
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: Allen had a good day too. What was interesting? I

1457
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: think John is about you know, Okay, So camaraderie is

1458
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: probably overrated. I always think that you know, unless you

1459
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: have a good quarterback, you're not winning. But I'll tell

1460
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: you you know, when I saw a couple of the

1461
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: touchdown catches one time by O'Leary, I mean, by by

1462
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: a couple of guys, I mean when I saw the

1463
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: crowds of people. You know, I just said it from

1464
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: my NBC piece out of here. I said, it looked

1465
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: like they were surrounding people like it was a walkoff

1466
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: home run in the seventh game of the World Series.

1467
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: Defense too, they run over and do the same thing,

1468
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: and the guys were making a point of it. My

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Speaker 1: whole view is, you know, before practice today, I was

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Speaker 1: listening to Sean McDermott's press conference, and he takes pride

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Speaker 1: in the fact that this is a starless, blue collar,

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Speaker 1: you know, very very buffalo team. You know, Micah Hyde,

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01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: he's such a valuable free agent that thirty one other

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Speaker 1: teams don't want him. The Buffalo Bills are the only

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01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: ones that want him. And what happens he plays has

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01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: one of the best years of any defensive back in

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Speaker 1: football last year. But I think what being in McDermott

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01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: are building here is a smart plan because you know,

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01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: what really wins in football and Steve you're the embodiment

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Speaker 1: of it. But what really wins in football is some talent.

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01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, you gotta have it. But

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01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the effort, beyond the shadow of

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01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: a doubt is. I cover this game year after year

1484
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,479
Speaker 1: after year. I think effort is just as important as talent.

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01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: You see these other other teams, and today was a

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01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: padded practice and I was I was talking to Pat

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Speaker 1: Kerwin as well, and you rarely ever see fights anymore

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01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: at NFL practices, and today they had a couple. Yeah,

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01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: And it's just getting to that point where you know,

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01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: guys get frustrated, they want to play well, they want

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01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: to do well, and something in them snaps and all

1492
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, you do that, but the

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01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: intensity level goes up and up and up and up,

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01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: until you know, finally they get a you know, in

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01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: a week from now, they'll get two weeks from now,

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01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:57,959
Speaker 1: they'll get a chance to play. But talk a little

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01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: bit about the effort you see around the league, how

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01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of had to be tempered during training camp

1499
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: because now they're not allowed to really look. I saw

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Speaker 1: Steve when I covered the Giants in the eighties for

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01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: a paper in New York called Newsday, I saw one

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01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: of the most amazing camp fights in NFL history. I

1503
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: saw two guys on the New York Giants defensive line,

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01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: Eric Dorsey and Eric Howard, two guys on the defensive

1505
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: line the same position, fight each other. And the fight

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01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: was so incredibly violent that people didn't want to break

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01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: it up because they both took their helmets off and

1508
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: were swinging their helmets at each other trying to knock

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01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 1: each other out. It was one of the scariest things

1510
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: I ever saw. And everybody said, oh, another camp fight.

1511
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: I said, I'm I'm not exaggerating. Somebody could have fractured

1512
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: their skull and truly a deathmatch. Yeah, and right now

1513
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 1: and right now, in my opinion, Steve, I'm telling you,

1514
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a good camp fight, and I don't

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01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: I don't remember the last really good camp fight. Like today,

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01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:06,799
Speaker 1: good today, vicious like today. There's some pushing and shoving

1517
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: and hey, mf this like whatever, you know, you guys

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01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: hit the ground. Yeah, but there's not It isn't. It

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01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: isn't a brawl. Well, you know, sort of the way

1520
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: that you have seen him in your life. I came

1521
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 1: into the league and it was it was the steroid era.

1522
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: I mean, everyone big guys, and when those guys snapped,

1523
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: it was scary. And if two guys who were you know,

1524
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: it was a better life through chemistry era. You know,

1525
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 1: if two of those guys decided to go at it,

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01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: you needed six or seven other guys who were just

1527
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 1: like him to break it up because regular people couldn't

1528
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: break up those fights. So yeah, you would have gotten

1529
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 1: if the rosters were were ten guys in the NFL,

1530
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: there'd have been some deaths with the fight because there

1531
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been enough guys to break those flights up,

1532
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: and they would have would have escalated it. But it's

1533
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: getting to that point now where in the NFL everything's changed.

1534
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 1: Now it's a learning atmosphere and I think I think

1535
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: in some ways the league's better for it. I think

1536
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: when I was watching practice today, the most interesting thing

1537
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: I saw is Brian Dabele, the offensive coordinator. Luckily, one

1538
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: of the great things I tell people this about training

1539
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: camp all the time. Oh what do you get out

1540
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: of watching training camp? I mean everything? Because today Brian

1541
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: Dable was in the end zone and I was eight

1542
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: feet away from him as he is talking to Peterman,

1543
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: mccaren and Alan, and he's basically changing a play. He goes, hey, listen, hey, listen,

1544
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna have Clay do this. He's going to run

1545
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: a soft under route. And he's, you know, in all this,

1546
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 1: and I just said, and AJ mccaren is saying okay,

1547
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: and then so he's trying to interpret what he's going

1548
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: to do. New Steve, you said the word. This is

1549
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: a teaching time. This is not a let's get callouses

1550
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 1: on you guys and all that. This is a teaching

1551
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: time and it's tremendously interesting to watch and watching today,

1552
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: I just said to myself, there's other camps I go

1553
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: to that I've been to already, like Cleveland yesterday. They're

1554
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: playing Tyrod Taylor. Period. He is the quarterback on that team.

1555
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:11,520
Speaker 1: It's not a competition right now. Might be in October,

1556
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: but right now it isn't. This is a competition, right

1557
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: This is made the best man win. Mean, Brandon Bean

1558
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: basically said to me, listen, we're not worried about Opening

1559
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: Day twenty nineteen, worried about Opening Day twenty and eighteen,

1560
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 1: and we're going to play the best guy. I Peter,

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01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: you just have about a minute left. I want to

1562
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 1: get your impression on Sean McDermott and help me with this.

1563
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 1: I'll be people will talk to me nationally, ask me

1564
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: about this team and about McDermott. I have trouble articulating this,

1565
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: but I think I don't want to say McDermot it's

1566
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: worth one win, one and a half wins, But he

1567
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: is worth something. I think his approach, his intelligence, and

1568
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: the command he has over this group is worth a lot,

1569
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 1: maybe more than many coaches that I've seen in this league.

1570
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: Do you hike up on anything? I told Derek Boko today,

1571
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, the media relations guy who I've known forever.

1572
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: We're watching his press conference and I leaned over to

1573
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 1: Derek and I said, this is an impressive coach. Yeah,

1574
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, I've thought it since he got the job,

1575
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: but just watching his command, not only how he answers questions,

1576
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,560
Speaker 1: but I've noticed this over the last year or so.

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Speaker 1: You know, first of all, he really really has an

1578
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: idea of what he wants to do. He has an

1579
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: idea of the message he wants to impart. I think

1580
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: it is utterly fantastic. Last year we wrote a story

1581
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: when I was with the MMQB. Kaylin Kaylor of our

1582
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 1: staff wrote a story about how Sean McDermott wanted all

1583
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: the guys on the team eventually during the year to

1584
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: stand up and tell everybody, here's my life, here's who

1585
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: I am, and I and so everybody in that room

1586
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: now gets to know the backup outside linebacker, the nickel guy,

1587
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, the swing tackle you know. And I like

1588
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: that because what does that do in this age of

1589
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: transient rosters. It gets you to know, Hey, I have

1590
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 1: this in common with you know, Nico Leary, or I

1591
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 1: have this in common with Micah Hyde. I didn't know that.

1592
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know Mica Hide was from a small town

1593
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: in Ohio. I'm from a small town in Indiana or whatever.

1594
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 1: So so that's the kind of stuff that, in my opinion,

1595
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,560
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott gets it. Yeah, and he was. He's the

1596
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: right person for this job in this town at this time. Peter,

1597
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: thank you. I know you gotta run back. You're with

1598
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 1: NBC Sports and I when Football Morning in America and

1599
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 1: money you got the Monday column back up again. Right.

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01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thrilled. I was all for eight weeks. I

1601
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do. I was like a fish

1602
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: out of water. I said, what am I doing with

1603
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: all this time off? How am I doing nothing to

1604
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 1: do on Sunday night? Come on? Yeah, you got something now?

1605
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 1: Thank you. We'll see it all right, guys. Thanks a lot.

1606
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 1: Peter King from NBC Sports Football Morning in America, Steve

1607
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 1: and I back, but Moore. Harrison Phillips spills third round

1608
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: draft pick going to join us when we return. It's

1609
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: One Bills Live from Bill's training camp, and this is

1610
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:11,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Goes Live from

1611
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: training camp. John Urphy, Steave Tasker and a special guest,

1612
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 1: defensive tackle Harrison Phillips. Buffle those third round draft pick. This. Yeah,

1613
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: thanks for taking a minute coming over and talking to us. Now,

1614
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: practice going good. You get pads are on. Everything changes

1615
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 1: when it gets ped. What's tell me about the atmosphere practice,

1616
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: how it changed from shorts and T shirts to putting

1617
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,799
Speaker 1: the pads on. Yeah, you know, for at least us rookies,

1618
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: shorts and pads is now or you know, shorts and

1619
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: T shirts has now been something kind of common and

1620
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,799
Speaker 1: something that we've been into through the whole Ota process.

1621
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: So it's it's football, but it's not football football, and

1622
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 1: so we put on the pads and I think it's

1623
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: really a baptism by fire. What happened the last few days, Yeah,

1624
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: it was. I was talking to some guys that I

1625
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: know we're watching practice, and I though, you know, it's

1626
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: different about the old days. You know, the old days

1627
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: like when I played, and you'd have a bunch of

1628
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: fights during training camp because you're going two days and

1629
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: it was hard, and guys get to and as soon

1630
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 1: as I said that, we two fights busted out. Yeah.

1631
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: At practice today, I mean, and there are never anything

1632
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 1: serious and they kind of wash away really quick. But

1633
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: it does say something about how things change when you

1634
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 1: can start getting you know, getting really playing football. Yeah,

1635
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's always a test of physicality, you know,

1636
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,560
Speaker 1: so much of the football through all votas. In the

1637
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 1: first couple of days, we can prove we know our assignment.

1638
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 1: We can prove we know our alignment where we're supposed

1639
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: to be. But the next thing you have to prove

1640
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 1: to the coaching staff and in the front office is

1641
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: that your physical player, you can you can do your

1642
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: job and be tough when you do it. And so

1643
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, offense is here, and you know, we need

1644
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: you to be tougher a defensive players, we need you

1645
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: to be tougher. So one's trying to be a tough

1646
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 1: the o'st one fires back and all of a sudden,

1647
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: pushing shoven and now you're on the ground. That's one

1648
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: of my favorite drills to watch. And I think it's

1649
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:44,560
Speaker 1: nine on seven. You guys did fairly early on in

1650
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 1: practice today and there were some big hits and you

1651
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: had to feel pretty good about the way the defense,

1652
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,560
Speaker 1: not just today, but through the first five practices, the

1653
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,560
Speaker 1: defense has held its ground against this offense. Uh. I

1654
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: think the two nine on seven periods we've had we're

1655
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: kind of the some of the best defensive periods we've had.

1656
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: One today, we had one to day and then I

1657
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 1: think the first day of pads we had a nine

1658
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 1: on seventh period um and you know, some of the

1659
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 1: veterans and coaches are on the same board is as

1660
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: it's coming in waves, and we need to be constant

1661
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: at the intensity that we played at in that period.

1662
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: We need to continue that through the whole processing and

1663
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 1: not dip when we hit the red zone or dip

1664
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 1: when we hit the blitz. Or one on ones. Talk

1665
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: a little bit about the techniques they're asking you to

1666
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: play something. You're young player and you're sitting there with

1667
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 1: Kyle and you said it was starlo tu lele. What

1668
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: techniques are they asking you to play? Three technique one technique?

1669
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: Are they kind of letting you h Are they asking

1670
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 1: you to do everything all the way across the front,

1671
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: interior defensive line? Yeah, you know, I feel like they

1672
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: they want me to play both defensive tackle positions. Um,

1673
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm I'm totally fine with that. I'm happy with that.

1674
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: I did that in college. Um, you know, three four,

1675
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: But when we got in nickel packages, depending on where

1676
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: the tight end would be, I'd played a three tech,

1677
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: a two eye, a shade whatever. Um. And you know,

1678
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: you might call it, you know, versatility, but really it's

1679
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's just when you're a nose guard,

1680
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: things happened a little quicker and when you're a three

1681
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 1: technique you need be a little faster. Um. And uh,

1682
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm happy with the progress that we're going.

1683
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm happy with the rotation that I have where I'm

1684
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: getting some reps with ones at three, I'm getting some

1685
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: reps at twos with three ones with the nose twos

1686
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 1: with you know, getting as many plays as I can,

1687
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 1: just because you know so much happens in your first year.

1688
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: You're such a sponge or you can just soak up everything.

1689
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna see, you know, maybe a hundred

1690
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 1: different blocks this year, and and the more I can

1691
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 1: just be experienced to those, the more I can they

1692
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: can see how I'm going to react when I get those.

1693
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 1: You know, you react differently when you're a three technique

1694
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: because you're a little further off the ball and you

1695
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: might have more time to shoot a gap. When you're

1696
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 1: a nose guard, you don't, so you might have to

1697
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 1: come across um. And you know, I think just they're

1698
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: probably messing with me as much as I'm you know,

1699
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's going to work best for

1700
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 1: me in the long term. What do you mean, messing

1701
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 1: with you? Like? Testing you? Is what you think? I mean? Yeah,

1702
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,640
Speaker 1: just trying to see, you know, do we like him

1703
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: out of three? How does he react to this? Is

1704
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: he a better run stop in three, a better pass

1705
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: rushing nose, a better pass rushing three? You know, what

1706
01:17:58,240 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 1: plays would we want him at different? You know, something

1707
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: like that I mean you you got to test it

1708
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: out the waters. I mean, they haven't tried me at

1709
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 1: stand up middle linebacker or anything like that. You're ready

1710
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: for that. You're ready. You're gonna be ready for that,

1711
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: as long as it's a blitz. Yeah, I don't know.

1712
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 1: Before practice to the coach. McDermot was asked about two

1713
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: at press conference and he I wrote down the quote.

1714
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: He said, he's adapting well to what essentially is a

1715
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 1: new defense for you. He said, you're the Buffalo defense

1716
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 1: is different than what you have at Stanford. Huh. Yeah.

1717
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 1: I was at three to four m zero technique majority

1718
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 1: of the time until we got into a nickel call,

1719
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,600
Speaker 1: and then again when we did, it's ten personnel. We

1720
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 1: know it's past, so you're not really thinking about the

1721
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: blocking schemes. I was in a three point stance stagger stance,

1722
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: and I was a reading technique, and you know, wherever

1723
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: the center went, I followed, I followed. I played horizontal

1724
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: across the line of scrimmage. Um. You know, I had

1725
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 1: over a hundred tackles in college football last year, and

1726
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: probably half of them are you know, at the line

1727
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: of scrimmage or further, you know, gains of one gains

1728
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: and two is stuff because I'm playing horizontal. You know

1729
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 1: why why I have a hundred tackles when you could

1730
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: have thirty and all of them being the backfield or

1731
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 1: something like that. So get off. We're in a act

1732
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 1: defense down we play downhill, um. And so you know,

1733
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 1: the time off or when I get tired in a

1734
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:08,560
Speaker 1: period or things like that, I can revert back to

1735
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 1: old habits, which is you know, normal, especially for rookies. UM.

1736
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 1: And so you know, continues to stay after practice or

1737
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: get to before practice and just think about one thing

1738
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 1: at a time. I'm analyzing. I think it's gonna be run.

1739
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: This guy's leaned that me am I gonna get double team.

1740
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 1: I should just go Yeah. And that's the that's been

1741
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: the biggest adjustment for you because the new defense it's

1742
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: an he used it. It's a not a read and

1743
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 1: react defense. It's an attack and and react defense. You know, reading, reading,

1744
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 1: read and cover or whatever. But he says it's an

1745
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 1: attack and react defense. And that's something different for you

1746
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 1: in college. And that's been the biggest adjustment for you.

1747
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: And it's it's about penetration. Yep. It's the biggest adjustment

1748
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 1: for me. And you know sometimes it's it stinks. Um,

1749
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: if you can anticipate a block, you're gonna get. But still, no,

1750
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 1: you just gotta fire upfield. So you know, maybe this

1751
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 1: guy's gonna go this way. So oh, I think he's

1752
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: gonna go there, I'm gonna step that way. No, step

1753
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: forward and make sure you know, don't don't guess wrong.

1754
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 1: And as long as you create a new line of scrimmage,

1755
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: you're fast enough to chase things down. And it's again

1756
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,879
Speaker 1: just kind of learning my abilities as well as trusting

1757
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: myself that I am fast enough to you know, maybe

1758
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 1: step forward and go down and still make a play.

1759
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: Things like that. Right with Harrison Phillips, Buffalo's third round

1760
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 1: draft pick who comes from Stanford defensive lineman. Since the

1761
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 1: day you were drafted, since that Friday night in April,

1762
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: you were compared to Kyle Williams already on the Bills.

1763
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 1: Now that you've been around Kyle and ot as a

1764
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: mini camp and almost a week's worth of training camp,

1765
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 1: what do you think people saw. Why do you think

1766
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 1: they draw that comparison? Um, I think it's just got

1767
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 1: to be mainly off of appearance. Okay, that's it. We

1768
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: look a lot like we look a lot alike. Um,

1769
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: you know, got the you know that's it. Yeah, you

1770
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: don't play like Kyler. I mean you've seen him now

1771
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 1: you watch him and yeah, uh I I hope to

1772
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 1: one day play like Kyle. You know, he's a remarkable athlete. Uh.

1773
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,560
Speaker 1: You know, his savviness to be thirteen years in the

1774
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: NFL and make it to five Pro Bowls and his

1775
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 1: long resume of things. Um, it's it's unbelievable. Um, there's

1776
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: a multitude of baby steps that I need to make

1777
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: in order to try to even get to that level.

1778
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a tough comparison for me when

1779
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: they you know, they're saying, oh, yeah, you play like him.

1780
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 1: How do I play like a thirteen year pro bowler

1781
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: when I haven't playing a snap in the NFL. Talk

1782
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 1: a little bit about what you've had to learn in

1783
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,719
Speaker 1: the pass rush. I mean, you had pass rush today

1784
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 1: one on ones we were watching and I don't know,

1785
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,799
Speaker 1: you said, you know, you did some of that at Stamford,

1786
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 1: no question about it. But now it's it's different against

1787
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 1: into your offensive line in the NFL and stuff. At

1788
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: what are you What are some of the things that

1789
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: you're learning about yourself in the pass rush at this level. Um,

1790
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: you know, stick with what you you're good at. You know,

1791
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,560
Speaker 1: you name some of the best pass rushers, you know

1792
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 1: their move um, and so I think that that's something

1793
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: that's UM, you know, I need to rely on. It's like, hey,

1794
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 1: if they can't beat X move, keep doing X move.

1795
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 1: And also, um, so much a pass rush isn't one guy,

1796
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,599
Speaker 1: it's it's working as as a four summer three. Whoever, however,

1797
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: many people are coming and uh, when you got guys

1798
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: like Jerry and and and Trent Um and Eddie those

1799
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,560
Speaker 1: type of guys coming off the edge. Uh, if I

1800
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,759
Speaker 1: can just push the pocket, they're gonna push the quarterback

1801
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 1: to me, or I'm gonna push the quarterback to them

1802
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 1: and so um. So much of it works like that.

1803
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: And as long as you're getting penetration and not letting

1804
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks escape. You know, if we're facing a guy

1805
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 1: who likes to come up to the a gaps or

1806
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 1: you know, uh panthers like to roll out and get

1807
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 1: out like that, you know, just make sure you keep

1808
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,759
Speaker 1: your quarterback and contains. And again it's still just attacking forward.

1809
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: I was watching some of that one on one word

1810
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 1: today and one snap, I saw you go up against

1811
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: Ryan Groy, big three hunder pound long offensive lineman, and

1812
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: I thought, that's a tough that's a tough job for

1813
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 1: Harrison to go up against the guy who's been around

1814
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 1: a little bit like Ryan Groy. Huh uh yeah, I

1815
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: think that. You know, there's a lot of good offensive

1816
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: lineman and um, it's been a blessing to be able

1817
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: to get into the rotation with the ones, um to

1818
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: see some of those guys and go through one on

1819
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 1: ones Uh, having you know, chances to do that, and uh,

1820
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: every rep you just kind of want to if you

1821
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 1: if you could do it over again and you do

1822
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 1: something different kind of but you know, a have a plan,

1823
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 1: have one move, one counter, and so you know, you

1824
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 1: just just keep moving forward. And again, you don't rush alone.

1825
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 1: A lot of things people don't realize. They see a

1826
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: practice and they know you guys are kind of sequestered

1827
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: over here, Saint John Fisher. But you guys spend a

1828
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: ton of time actually repro You're gonna spend more time

1829
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: in a classroom in a meeting setting, watching film with

1830
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 1: these guys that you do anything else, talk talk a

1831
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,959
Speaker 1: little bit about how that's gone and the early the OTAs,

1832
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 1: the mini camps and now at training camp when you

1833
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: get a you know, you they film every practice, You

1834
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: film every rep individual and team. Talk a little bit

1835
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: about what you've learned from guys like starlotu Lele, Trent Murphy,

1836
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams, all these older veterans who you know, they

1837
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 1: spend their a lot of time watching film. What can

1838
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: you learn from them? Yeah, I think that, you know,

1839
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 1: it's been pretty hard to break down and kind of

1840
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 1: get tendencies for the Bills. Who's the one team that

1841
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: we don't play this year is the Buffalo Bills. And

1842
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 1: so fortunately we're seeing a ton of great looks. We're

1843
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: seeing zone schemes, gaff schemes, tons of different things from

1844
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 1: different quarterback they like different plays, reads, rides, passes, all

1845
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: this stuff. But yeah, you know, I'm I'm super anxious

1846
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 1: to get to the chance we're breaking down one team

1847
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: and we can you know, share all the information we

1848
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 1: know about somebody who's played this team, you know, twenty

1849
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: times in their career. But yeah, so much of the

1850
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,839
Speaker 1: answers to the test are given to you before it happens.

1851
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: If you know twelve personnel, this running backs in the backfield.

1852
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 1: This tackle's foot is up, this guard's hands not down.

1853
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: All those small things that you can accumulate from years

1854
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 1: and years of watching film and knowing just knowing football,

1855
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: football one on one. So the more I can hear

1856
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 1: about those things and different even though in the defense,

1857
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: if I hear the call, I can think, oh, this

1858
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: is a man pressure, So that means I, you know,

1859
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,759
Speaker 1: we're in man coverage. I really can't let the quarterback

1860
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 1: escape because everybody's backs turned to the quarterback. If he

1861
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: gets out, he runs. You know, Knowing more football allows

1862
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: you to be a way better football player. Harrison, you

1863
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 1: got most of the month of May, a couple of

1864
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 1: weeks into June, and then of course this last week

1865
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:01,600
Speaker 1: to be around Buffalo in western New York. I know

1866
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 1: how involved you were in your community back home in

1867
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: Nebraska and even out in Stanford. What do you think

1868
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:07,560
Speaker 1: of Buffalo so far? What do you think of the

1869
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: atmosphere around the Bills. I think it's it's been extremely welcoming,

1870
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,719
Speaker 1: very more a little more slow paced, way more my speed,

1871
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 1: um more slow paced in Stanford, NORDCA. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1872
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, Silicon Valley San Francisco area. This is more

1873
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: like Nebraska to me. Um, you know, wake up, go

1874
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 1: Outside's beautiful day out. You know, at least in the

1875
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 1: summer it's beautiful. But you know, the fans have been

1876
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,600
Speaker 1: great too, whether we're going out and going out to

1877
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 1: eat or getting groceries or a movie, somebody stopping you

1878
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 1: and say, hey, man, we're rooting for you. We were

1879
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 1: so happy when we got you. Things like that. Um,

1880
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 1: it really just makes it makes you smile. It makes

1881
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: you feel very very humbled to think that somebody can

1882
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 1: think so highly of you. Um, and you know that

1883
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: that they you know, they're passionate about your passion. And

1884
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: this has been my lifelong dream and now that I

1885
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 1: got there, that there's people out there that recognize that.

1886
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 1: What you one of the wedding crashers in the parking,

1887
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 1: I was ya tell that story, I think where you're

1888
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 1: joshing very yeah. I mean, well, we were just on

1889
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: our way to the facility. Um, I wanted to get

1890
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:06,600
Speaker 1: a workout in. We were we were coming from a

1891
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 1: community service thing with was Zoe. We were at a

1892
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: bowling community service thing for him, and uh we left

1893
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: there and on the way back they were dropping me

1894
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 1: off so I could get a workout end of the facility,

1895
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: and we passed the stuff like is that a wedding, Yeah,

1896
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 1: we should go crash, we should go take pictures. They

1897
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: would love that, like yeah, Like like Josh, if they

1898
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 1: would die if they get a picture with you. So

1899
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 1: we pop with you. He flipped back and Josh gets

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01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 1: out and just like takes off running. I'm like, all right,

1901
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 1: we better follow um. And it was kind of just like,

1902
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Josh. They freaked out and then they

1903
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: turned They're like, wait are you Harrison, And then they

1904
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: started freaking out like wait is that Austin And they

1905
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 1: just they all they knew all of us, um, and

1906
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: so you know, we've got in some of those photos,

1907
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 1: and UM, that was really cool for for all of us.

1908
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 1: I mean, was that your only wedding crash if you

1909
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:49,600
Speaker 1: crash any since then or anymore in the future. I

1910
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 1: got it down now. Either my sister or something told

1911
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 1: me that. Somebody tweeted me, Hey, I'm taking weather pictures

1912
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: there too. I don't crashed. I think I was back

1913
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 1: in Omaha at the time. Those are invitations, yeah, but

1914
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: if somebody somebody wants to extend an invitation. I got

1915
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: nothing on going on. Yeah, you're only a training camp.

1916
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:13,759
Speaker 1: You got nothing going on about? Will you go to whatever? Harrison,

1917
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: thanks for this, good luck, have a great camp, continue

1918
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 1: to have a great camp. Thanks for stoping about. We

1919
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Yeah, I hope to be on again soon.

1920
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips, Bill's defensive line and third round pick of

1921
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 1: the Bills, John Murphy, Steve Tasker. It's one Bill's Live

1922
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 1: from Bill's training camp on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

1923
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: to the show. We are live at Bill's training camp,

1924
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,839
Speaker 1: John Murphy's defacture and a thanks to Harrison Phillips, Horrible

1925
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 1: Harry for joining us. I love the way he answered

1926
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 1: my question about the comparisons to Kyle Williams. Um it

1927
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 1: was it was passionate. He said, look, I get it.

1928
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 1: I guess we look a little bit alike. But he said,

1929
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: and this is the part I love when he said,

1930
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm I'm Kyli. He was a thirteen year pros been

1931
01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: to five Pro Bowls. I'm nowhere near that. I think

1932
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 1: he'ven taking a snap. Yeah. I thought that was a

1933
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: perfect answer. I don't even think they looked that much alike.

1934
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: But I get what he's saying. No, I don't know

1935
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 1: how we all. I didn't jump on it, but many

1936
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: people said, oh, he's the next Kyle Williams. We'll see

1937
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: if he's the next Kyle Williams. Well, you know, it's

1938
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 1: a it's a It is a compliment to him, no

1939
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 1: question about it. Everybody knows the kind of person, a

1940
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: human being and player that Kyle Williams has been over

1941
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 1: the course of his career here in Buffalo. He was

1942
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 1: a he was an overlooked player coming out of the draft,

1943
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 1: a fifth round draft pick, and he turned into one

1944
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:30,640
Speaker 1: of the pillars of a team throughout his career and

1945
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: in the midst of a team that never went to

1946
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: this to the playoffs, let alone a super Bowl. Kyle

1947
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 1: Williams played extremely good football and was well respected all

1948
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 1: over the National Football League. And it's a when you're

1949
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 1: compared to him, as Harrison Phillips has been early in

1950
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 1: his career, it's a nod to the kind of person

1951
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 1: he has been thus far in at Stanford UH and

1952
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 1: when he shows up and handles himself with the media

1953
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: and the and the and the team the way he

1954
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 1: has um it is a compliment to him, there's no

1955
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 1: question about it, and it's rightfully one he shies away

1956
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 1: from because you know, it's got to be a little bit,

1957
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, embarrassing, a little bit you know, flustering to

1958
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 1: be you know, have that set about you about somebody

1959
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: who you only played the same position, right, same skin color,

1960
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: and you played the same position, So that's who you are.

1961
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: I get it. I just love his response to that.

1962
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 1: We've had a good show so far. In another good

1963
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 1: hour coming up, Pat Kerwin was on with us in

1964
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 1: the first hour of the show. Nathan Peterman builds quarterback

1965
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: Peter King earlier this hour, Harrison phillips a moment ago.

1966
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 1: All of those interviews are gonna be up on our website,

1967
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot com, either already or in the next

1968
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 1: hour or so. So if you missed him, you and

1969
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 1: go back there and find him. And Evan Washburn from

1970
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 1: the NFL on CBS is going to join us in

1971
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 1: the third and final hour of the show. That's coming

1972
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 1: up next, Come on back where at Bill's training camp,

1973
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 1: John Murphy's team tasker. It is One Bills Live from

1974
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's training camp, and this is Buffalo Bills Radiolo

1975
01:29:54,960 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network Stories Update update from Bill training camp.

1976
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 1: Back to work for the Bills today at eight forty

1977
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 1: five workout this morning after having yesterday off. They spent

1978
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 1: a lot of time in red zone work today, both

1979
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: the run game and the passing game. Second year quarterback

1980
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman got in most of the work of the

1981
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,639
Speaker 1: first team, followed by A. J. McCarron and then Josh

1982
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 1: Allen on the sidelines. Wide receiver Zay Jones still on

1983
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 1: the non football injury list. Head coach Sean mctonbert says

1984
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 1: there's no updated timetable for his return. The Bills gave

1985
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,799
Speaker 1: defensive end Trent Murphy a veteran day off of maintenance

1986
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 1: Day two brief scrap during today's one on one where

1987
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 1: goal line versus d line. Left tackle Deon Dawkins got

1988
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: into it with defensive en Eddie Yarborough. They are back

1989
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 1: on the field tomorrow eight forty five am. That practice

1990
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,680
Speaker 1: open to the public, no ticket required. We'll see you here.

1991
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings have reached an agreement with Stefan Diggs. The

1992
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: wide receiver, has agreed to a five year contract extension

1993
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:49,799
Speaker 1: worth eighty one million dollars for the next six seasons.

1994
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 1: He was on the receiving end of the Minneapolis miracle

1995
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 1: at sixty one yard catching run in the NFC playoff

1996
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 1: game that gave the Vikings to win over the Saints.

1997
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 1: Last January, the Chicago Bears still talking with Roquan Smith,

1998
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 1: their first round draft choice, who remains unsigned. He's miss

1999
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 1: nine training camp practices for the Bears. Already Bears GM

2000
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 1: pacem Ryan Pace says that there is no timetable. He

2001
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 1: has nothing to say about the Roquan Smith in those

2002
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 1: contract negotiations. Ross Cockrow, former Bills cornerback now with Carolina Panthers,

2003
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: needs surgery to repair a broken left tibia and fibula.

2004
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: He got injured yesterday at the training camp practice for

2005
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 1: Carolina Baseball. Bison Tonight welcome lad Guerrero Junior to the lineup.

2006
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 1: The number one prospect in Minor League Baseball will be

2007
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 1: in the lineup for the Bisons when they take on

2008
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 1: Lehigh Valley tonight seven o'clock at Coca Cola Field. He

2009
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 1: is the son of recently inducted the Hall of Famer

2010
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 1: of Vladimir Guerrero. He's hit four O two, fourteen home run,

2011
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 1: sixty RBIs and sixty one games at double A. He's

2012
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: playing for the Buffalo Bisons tonight. And that is the

2013
01:31:52,400 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 1: update from Buffalo Bills training Camp. Oh fucking a hand.

2014
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 1: This thirty final hour of our show from Buffalo Bills Traineycamp,

2015
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:23,679
Speaker 1: John Murpee, Steve Tamsker were joined by Evan Washburn, reporter

2016
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 1: analyst for CBS Sports and CBS Sports dot Com. You

2017
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: like the man over here in the red. You are

2018
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 1: a sideline reporter, do you guys here a lot of

2019
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:33,560
Speaker 1: common right? Yeah? I mean, look, I'll be honest that

2020
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 1: I remember watching Steve when I was younger, when I

2021
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 1: first got in the business. Well, I'm not he's not battle.

2022
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 1: I mean he's got the great beer, yeah, right, which

2023
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:44,879
Speaker 1: I dig by the way, But no, in all seriousness,

2024
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 1: when I first started as a sideline reporter covering the NFL,

2025
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 1: there was a few people that I looked at film

2026
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 1: of and Steve was one of them. And obviously he

2027
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 1: has the luxury of having been a player so already

2028
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 1: had a knowledge base. But the way he did the

2029
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 1: job is the way that I liked to try and

2030
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 1: do it as somebody who may know some things but

2031
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 1: be able to weave your way in and out properly.

2032
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 1: Do you ever talk to Tracy Wolfson? I see, I

2033
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 1: seek out Tracy's advice for everything. She's pretty Tracy. I

2034
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 1: look too for certain logistical things, but styling speaking, and

2035
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 1: I can't do it like she does. Yeah, well, everyone's

2036
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 1: got their own style and how they want to do it.

2037
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 1: But I just appreciated the way that you were able

2038
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: to get in and out of a broadcast with pertinent

2039
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 1: information without bogging people down or overwhelming the booth, because

2040
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 1: it's a really difficult dance to do. It's the nuts

2041
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 1: and bolts of it to the hard part, you know,

2042
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 1: get Sometimes you're on the air, you kind of feel

2043
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: you're kind of practiced, you feel comfortable, but getting ready

2044
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 1: and how to fit in it. It's a feel thing,

2045
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 1: and I would think you'd be challenging for you because

2046
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 1: you have this knowledge base, you've been in the booth,

2047
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you're down on the

2048
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 1: sideline and while you're still valued, you know you have

2049
01:33:56,439 --> 01:34:00,040
Speaker 1: to get dance everything into these fifteen second rips, and

2050
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 1: that's difficult. I would think in the sideline Reporter Hall

2051
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 1: of Fame Steve performance in the Super Bowl in New

2052
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 1: Orleans when the lights went out, probably is the number

2053
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 1: one thing, right I would I would think, well, it's

2054
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 1: the number one opportunity. I don't know that I'm gonna

2055
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 1: win any awards for it. It was, Yeah, it's why

2056
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,600
Speaker 1: live television every time, every time you do something like that,

2057
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: you think, Wow, which had one more chance to do

2058
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: it again? You know, I mean, wish had a chance

2059
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 1: to prepare and be ready for the lights going out

2060
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 1: of the super What was so wild about that was?

2061
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you'd already been doing it for a long time,

2062
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 1: but there were people involved in that broadcast, in that

2063
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 1: event on every angle that had been in live television,

2064
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 1: live sports for their entire lives and never seen something

2065
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 1: like that, so no one knew how to really portal Yeah,

2066
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 1: immortalized by Saturday Night Live. See that, Well that's when

2067
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 1: you know you've made it. If they're if there, what

2068
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 1: is it? Yeah, that's what they tell me. It've made it.

2069
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 1: And now that you've been made fun of, you did

2070
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 1: the job. The fifteenth. One more thing about this because

2071
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 1: it's something I'm interested in. Then I watch you guys work.

2072
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 1: It is no more more than fifteen seconds, right, they

2073
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 1: hits the if that same times, maybe and now, especially

2074
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:08,759
Speaker 1: with hurry up and the quick passing game, it really

2075
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 1: becomes more and more of a challenge. I mean, I've

2076
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:13,760
Speaker 1: sort of taken the approach now where you're even more

2077
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 1: unless it's an injury update, the only other things that

2078
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: you can you're really a pivot person. And that's where

2079
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate my team where it's Ion Ego and Dan Fouts.

2080
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 1: They allow me to be almost like at times a

2081
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 1: host on the field where if I feel like they

2082
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:28,680
Speaker 1: could be heading in a different direction with the conversation

2083
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 1: of the game, they'll come down to me and it's

2084
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 1: just a quick almost question to them that has gives

2085
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 1: me a chance to change the change the subject. Yeah,

2086
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 1: without waiting on the game to do it exactly exactly,

2087
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 1: because you have the luxury too, and Steve knows this

2088
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 1: where while you're always engaged, you can listen to the

2089
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 1: broadcast and pay attention to things that Iron or Dan

2090
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 1: or whoever's in the booth can't because they've got to

2091
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:52,680
Speaker 1: worry about names and numbers down to distances. Yeah, and

2092
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 1: that it's it's a great spot to be and it's

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01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 1: fun to do. But by the same token, it's it's

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01:35:57,920 --> 01:35:59,560
Speaker 1: a team effort. I mean, and yeah, and I was

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01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 1: gonna ask you this, how what percentage of coach? Because

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01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 1: we always ask in production meetings what percentage of coaches?

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01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 1: Now I think it's growing that say listen, can I

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01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 1: talk to you for like two seconds, even if it's

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01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 1: off camera for like at half Oh you you think it?

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01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 1: It's great? Yeah, I would say the only coach I mean,

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01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 1: and I don't mean Sam. I mean there's probably I

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01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 1: know that Andy Reid has a specific rule about it's

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01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 1: a leader tie. I mean there's specific coaches leader tie

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01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 1: they're going in or coming out. I kind of have

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01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 1: to manage because they're not contractually obligated to do it.

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01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate when they do it. But and I think

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01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 1: you had I may have talked to you about this.

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01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,320
Speaker 1: I've also said too, if if you don't want to

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Speaker 1: do it, then let's not do it, because I don't

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01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 1: want to be put in a situation where you and

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Speaker 1: I are going to have to But if you do

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Speaker 1: want to do it, we can do it off camera

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01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 1: of course. And all I need is just and really

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01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,559
Speaker 1: all the all you need is like three sentences, That's

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01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 1: all you need. It's what are your I mean anything.

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01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 1: It took me about four or five games before Belichick

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Speaker 1: would say all right, yeah, I'll do it. I'll don't

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Speaker 1: go it out, and he did it. It took a while.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was working with Phil Sims too, so Phil,

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01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, filling him or like this, So even then

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01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 1: it took him a while. But then after that he

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01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 1: was cool with it. Yeah, I mean, i've I've I've

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Speaker 1: gotten to the I mean, I consider myself lucky and

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01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:11,559
Speaker 1: this could all change. But but Bill and your coach

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01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 1: has been very right to me. And and I think

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01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 1: some of it has to do with you not being

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01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 1: a player. Yeah, maybe just maybe that's a you know

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01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 1: what I mean, I don't you know, they always suspect you,

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01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 1: either one of you sideline guys ever want to take

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01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 1: your crackhead Greg Popovitch in the NBA interviewing. You know

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01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:27,640
Speaker 1: what I'd love to do with Greg or with the

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01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 1: interview like that is just totally catch him off guard

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01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 1: with like, yeah, I know he's a wine guy, like

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Speaker 1: what's the best bottle of wine? It just like completely

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Speaker 1: out of the Yeah, yeah, you're right, it'd be fun

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01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 1: to do that, you know what I mean. And you'd

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01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 1: almost have to clear it with your bosses beforehand, or

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01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 1: it's like, right, I'm gonna try it. You gottah, Yeah,

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01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 1: you gotta hands up somebody on that way. You don't

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01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 1: want to just because, but he would be because if

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Speaker 1: he's gonna take it that way and make it a

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Speaker 1: complete mockery, then you should too. Absolutely. I mean because

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Speaker 1: I mean I haven't done an NBA game, but I've

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01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 1: heard that some of the folks that they don't want

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01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 1: to do it, but they're obligate, they're contractually be because

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01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 1: I think it's sponsored, right, And well, that's the thing too,

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01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 1: and that if if they're willing to do it and

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01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 1: they're okay and pop popa vision, you can tell the

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01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 1: kind of guy they are. Yeah, they're perfectly comfortable in

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Speaker 1: their own skin, the exactly having fun with it. Yeah,

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01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 1: it would be fun. Andy when Washburn is with us

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Speaker 1: from CBS Sidelin reporter reporter analysts for CBS Sports, CBS Sports,

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01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 1: uh dot Com, CBA Sports Network here covering the Bills

2154
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 1: and training camp. Coming from Pittsburgh. You said, yep, you

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01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 1: saw Ben Roethlisberger here. Some people like to compare to

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01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 1: Josh Allen to Ben Roethlisberger, I think that'd be a

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Speaker 1: good thing if you're a little too soon for this ceiling, right, Yeah,

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01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 1: it is the ceiling. I mean the physical comparison. I

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Speaker 1: could see that. I see some Joe Flacco in it too,

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Speaker 1: and I think there's there's comparables in their their journey. Look,

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Speaker 1: Ben cam from a small school as well, and maybe

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Speaker 1: it wasn't as heralded, but I think Joe was as

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Speaker 1: raw as as Josh is right now as a prospect,

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Speaker 1: and I think Joe benefited from something. I mean, people

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Speaker 1: forget this, but Flacco wasn't even supposed to start. I

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01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: mean Troy Smith got tonsillitis or something. So I think

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Speaker 1: that if that could be a possible sort of measuring neither. Listen,

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Speaker 1: Ben Rothisberger wasn't supposed to start either. That's right, started

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Speaker 1: Tommy Managery and Tommy Maddox goes down all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: He wins his first fifteen games as the best start

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Speaker 1: to a career of any rookie quarterback of all time.

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01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:23,719
Speaker 1: But he wasn't even supposed to be on the field exactly.

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Speaker 1: And I think, I mean, it seems like we're shifting

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Speaker 1: in two different directions with it. You got to get

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Speaker 1: these guys on immediately, might as well allow him And then, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what does an incubated quarterback look like? Do you incubate

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Speaker 1: him and put him away from everything like an egg,

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Speaker 1: just let him, let him keep him warm, and just

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Speaker 1: treat him like or do you crack it open and

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01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:48,600
Speaker 1: say let's go either either either cluck or fry. I

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Speaker 1: think that more are you ready or not you're an

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Speaker 1: ability to throw it into a tight window or understand that?

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Speaker 1: To me is where where as a coach you have

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Speaker 1: to have a strong belief and what it is you

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Speaker 1: have in terms of the mental toughness of a guy

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Speaker 1: or his ability to handle things early because you're gonna

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Speaker 1: you're gonna struggle whether you're the most polished passer in

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Speaker 1: college or a guy who was sub sixty percent in

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Speaker 1: the Mountain West. It's more to me about what's going

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Speaker 1: on upstairs, because you just don't want to get rattled.

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Speaker 1: And I talked to Josh after practice and the word

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Speaker 1: he uses, you just don't want to tall snowball on you,

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Speaker 1: And I thought that that was apropos to what can

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Speaker 1: happen to guys if they're thrown in the Peterman. His

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01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 1: teammate can give you an idea of what's and that

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Speaker 1: took one half. It's snowballed against him in a single half.

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Speaker 1: Talk to us a little bit. He just came from Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: that's an established coaching staff. They got an elite quarterback

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Speaker 1: who's who has won a couple of Super Bowls and

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Speaker 1: is incumbent, not going anywhere. He come to Buffalo. It

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Speaker 1: compared and contrast the two vibes of these two camps,

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and Buffalo. I wrote something down in my notebook.

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Speaker 1: Energy was what struck me about today's work out. I'm

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Speaker 1: not here every day, you guys are, but I was

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01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 1: struck by the pace in which practice goes. Maybe it's

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01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 1: just the simple logistics too, where they've got to have

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01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:06,640
Speaker 1: guys running from field to field, but it creates this

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Speaker 1: this engine field to practice. The Bills was much shorter,

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Speaker 1: but I would say, I don't want to say more efficient,

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01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:17,599
Speaker 1: but again, it felt like they got everything in The Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Practice is as physical and as taxing and grueling as

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01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:25,439
Speaker 1: I've seen because they tackle off into the ground. They

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Speaker 1: do a lot of live periods, a lot of goal

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Speaker 1: line and it's long. It's about two and a half hours.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it's headlined and highlighted by Ben and ab Antonio.

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01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 1: Brown will make a play guarantee you can go there

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01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:41,920
Speaker 1: for one day and you'll see him do something special. Um.

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Speaker 1: All right, we've done it. We've done it. Um. But

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Speaker 1: that that to me was probably the biggest comparing and

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01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 1: contrasting it. Ben doesn't, at least yesterday didn't take a

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Speaker 1: ton of reps. I mean, he's clearly managing himself through

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Speaker 1: this early portion of camp. We're with the having washed

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Speaker 1: rohim from CBS telling your impressions of the bills today,

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01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 1: and I'm wondering what you think of the way you

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01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 1: mentioned about the pacer practice. What about Brian Dable and

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Speaker 1: what's sort of an offense we don't know quite what

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Speaker 1: to expect from from Brian. Yeah, I don't know the schematic.

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01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 1: I was asking a couple of guys about is it

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Speaker 1: one that is overly complex that's going to take a

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Speaker 1: guy like Josh Allen or even AJ McCarron who's new

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01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:24,360
Speaker 1: to it and Nathan Peterman a lot of time to understand,

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01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 1: or is it just you're an offense that's challenging and

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01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:30,120
Speaker 1: has all its um ups and downs to it I

2234
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 1: was struck by the intensity he seemed to have during

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01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:36,760
Speaker 1: especially that red zone periods Dable and but I was

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Speaker 1: struck also by on the flip side, the work of

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Speaker 1: the secondary and a lot of those periods. I mean

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Speaker 1: that one interception that I think was Jordan Poyer had

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Speaker 1: in the back of the end zone with the one

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Speaker 1: handed I mean I think he and Wow, I think

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Speaker 1: Micah Hyde Poyer. Um, I'm a big fan of Tredavious.

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Speaker 1: What I like that gruff bush An interception. There you go,

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01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 1: and White the knockdown he did early on him practice.

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01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 1: We talked about it earlier on the show. Passing tennif

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01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 1: for Kelvin Benjuin just to knockdown by tradevious was amazing. Yeah,

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01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 1: I mean I would imagine too, with with with the

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01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 1: growing pains that are going to come with whoever's under

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01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 1: center and running this offense, that group, to me is

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01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 1: going to be as important as anybody, um through these

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Speaker 1: first four weeks of the season. And yet, Evan, no

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01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 1: one builds a team around a secondary, really do they know?

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01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 1: They don't. But going back to where we kind of

2253
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 1: started with the quarterback discussion, whether it was probably Beam,

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01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:30,640
Speaker 1: I don't remember what he had defensively, but I know

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Speaker 1: because I was in Baltimore at the time what Joe

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01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 1: had to. I mean, if you're gonna let one of

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Speaker 1: these young guys go early and run things, the only

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01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 1: way that you can try and stay above water is

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01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:45,760
Speaker 1: if your defense is coming close to pitching shot out bad.

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01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 1: I mean he had it was. It was them in

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01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 1: there and kind of their zenith. Yeah, So talk a

2262
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 1: little bit about what you see trends around the league,

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01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 1: because you watch you stand on the sidelines, and we've

2264
01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: seen trends coming. A few years ago, it looked like

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01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:03,599
Speaker 1: running backs were an afterthought for most rosters and stuff.

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01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:05,760
Speaker 1: Now you got sa Quon Barkley being taken second. We

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01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 1: got Leshaun McCoy here, Levion Bell who's just hit a

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01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 1: home run, deal, Todd Gurley, who's so they is that

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01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 1: pendulum starting to swing back? I mean you think about

2270
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 1: but then you can make the argument. I mean, I

2271
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:18,640
Speaker 1: remember having the Bears last year and you got like

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01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:20,640
Speaker 1: a guy like Terrick Cohen who comes out. I mean,

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01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 1: I still think that you can get value late that

2274
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 1: can maybe not bring you exactly what you're getting in

2275
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 1: a Todd Gurley and Ezekiel Elliott and say Quon, but

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01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 1: I still think you have to be sure if you're

2277
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:37,160
Speaker 1: gonna do it that high. I mean, the other trend

2278
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 1: to me that you're seeing is is I mentioned it

2279
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 1: when we're talking about the broadcasting thing, but just the

2280
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 1: quick it looks more like college football at times to me,

2281
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 1: spread then it fast paced. I mean there's not as

2282
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 1: much downfield. I mean, we could have a long conversation

2283
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 1: about what I think could at times affect the ratings.

2284
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:57,640
Speaker 1: I thought that at times football could became a bit

2285
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 1: challenging because we weren't getting those games that were the

2286
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: chuck it down the field game. I remember the Raiders

2287
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 1: kind of had it for a little while when Derek

2288
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 1: was healthy. But I feel like that's a trend that

2289
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 1: I hope kind of shifts back. Maybe because so many

2290
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 1: important players, quarterbacks like Aaron Rodgers were hurt, we didn't

2291
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 1: see that as much last year. Well, they're also drafting

2292
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 1: guys like Baker Mayfield, who through you know, half of

2293
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 1: his passes were five yards exactly zadderin to make a point,

2294
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:26,639
Speaker 1: but a large percent of his passes were quick screens,

2295
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 1: screen passes, you know quick, you know, stuff out of

2296
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:32,679
Speaker 1: the shot and if if you're gonna And I remember

2297
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 1: sitting down with Bill O'Brien last year when they were

2298
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 1: integrating to Shaun Watson into the offense. And he's a

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01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 1: guy who worked with Tom Brady obviously and likes the

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01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 1: downfield game, likes complex offense, and he said they had

2301
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 1: to basically go watch what Russell Wilson did his rookie year.

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01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 1: Go watch to Sean obviously at Clemson and cater and

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01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 1: offense to him that included a lot of zone read,

2304
01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 1: a lot of the quick passing game. Obviously, it worked

2305
01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 1: until he got injured. But still I miss when guys

2306
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 1: are ready to cut it loose with them and Washburn

2307
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 1: reporter analysts for CBS Sports, I'm worried about this. And

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01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 1: mcderman mentioned today the officials come to town tomorrow night.

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01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 1: I believe they'll meet with the players, meet a little

2310
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 1: bit more on Thursday. Right tomorrow's Wednesday. When you read

2311
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 1: the reports of what went out in Philly with the

2312
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 1: explanation of the helmet rule, and they're more confused, I'm

2313
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 1: worried that's going to be a standard operating procedure. I

2314
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:26,600
Speaker 1: think I think it is, and I'll be honest, I

2315
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 1: didn't sense that this was going to be what it

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01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 1: feels like, a boiling problem. I've made the point a

2317
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 1: number of times that I think it's gonna happen. It's

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01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 1: really going to come to a head week one or two.

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01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 1: When something happens a players disciplined, it affects the result

2320
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 1: of a game, and then this is going to become

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01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 1: a major storyline in the early portion of the season.

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01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 1: And now I've been thinking back. I remember when they

2323
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,720
Speaker 1: instituted the targeting rule in college. I was still doing

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01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 1: college games and we had our seminar at CBS and

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01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 1: they were showing we had an official, They're showing his clip,

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01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 1: and I kind of had what I think the feeling

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01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:04,760
Speaker 1: some of these Eagles players had where and you've been

2328
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:06,800
Speaker 1: in it. We've done it for the NFL seminar where

2329
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 1: they'll show you clips and they say, Okay, this is

2330
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 1: a clear cut whatever it may be at this case

2331
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:14,639
Speaker 1: targeting and you go and you look to your person

2332
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 1: next year, did you see that? I mean I did

2333
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 1: see it. There's so much gray area and nuance that

2334
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 1: it I really feel like it's it's another powder keg

2335
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 1: that's ready to burst open. It the only thing is

2336
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 1: And I say this. I said this to the Pat

2337
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 1: Kerwin Hurt in the show as well. The players and

2338
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 1: coaches really don't mind what rules they make as long

2339
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:38,640
Speaker 1: as there's consistency in the application and the calling of them.

2340
01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 1: And I said that the danger is, like you said,

2341
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 1: you're gonna get into a big game or a big

2342
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 1: Markee game, like a Monday night game or a playoff game,

2343
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,599
Speaker 1: and it's there's gonna be a call that stands out

2344
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 1: either they're gonna make the call, even if it's the

2345
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:53,200
Speaker 1: right call, it'll be the first time in a crucial

2346
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 1: moment where they make that new call and a player

2347
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:58,919
Speaker 1: like Ed Reid comes off the field for the Baltimore

2348
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 1: Ravens or a Hall of Fame time player comes off,

2349
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 1: and then it's gonna be that's when that's gonna be.

2350
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 1: It's almost like they've taken what the Ketch Rule provided

2351
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 1: in terms of ambiguity and now have inserted this they

2352
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 1: could kind of replace, Let's give us a new controversy.

2353
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:15,680
Speaker 1: And I'm not convinced that the ambiguity is out of

2354
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 1: the Ketch rule either, based on the changes they may

2355
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:21,760
Speaker 1: I doubt it. I mean, there's and I'll be honest too.

2356
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 1: I need now that this is clearly if the players

2357
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 1: are starting to discuss it. I didn't give it enough

2358
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 1: credence when the new legislation and rules came through. I

2359
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 1: just thought I'll figure it out once the season gets going.

2360
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 1: But now it seems to be a storyline that's happening

2361
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 1: in week two a training camps, which means it can

2362
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 1: only grow as we head into preseason action and then

2363
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 1: game acts. One of the things that happens and a

2364
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 1: lot of people don't realize this every year during this time,

2365
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:48,559
Speaker 1: the officials spread out and they go to every training

2366
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 1: camp and they've got and Sean McDermott mentioned today they're

2367
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:53,799
Speaker 1: gonna have videos, they're gonna have actual on field officials

2368
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 1: in the meeting room with the team and they're gonna

2369
01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:58,880
Speaker 1: walk through this. And you mentioned a little bit with Philadelphia.

2370
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 1: They came out of there like going what usually usually

2371
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 1: you come out with a little bit more clarity, and

2372
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:07,680
Speaker 1: that's what Sean McDermott today said. He's we're looking for

2373
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:10,840
Speaker 1: a little more clarity in the rule this year. You know,

2374
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 1: they've got some it's the rules that they're going to

2375
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:15,600
Speaker 1: talk about it. And you used to say points of

2376
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 1: inphasis and all this. They're significant contracts on every play, Yeah,

2377
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 1: on every play. Discipline could affect whether a team goes

2378
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:29,880
Speaker 1: after a rookie signing bonus. So now agents are having

2379
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 1: to go in and that's why you're seeing a holdout

2380
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 1: possibly with Rocan Smith, the top pick for the Bears,

2381
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 1: because they want to have that that that written in

2382
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 1: the contract that they can't attack the signing bonus if

2383
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:44,880
Speaker 1: a players disciplined multiple times for one of these helmets,

2384
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 1: helmet hits, right, which is a whole other layer, right,

2385
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:50,800
Speaker 1: which of it's complicated. And I get that if you

2386
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:53,080
Speaker 1: got the money, and that's that's has nothing to do

2387
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:54,600
Speaker 1: with the football thing. It has to been doing with

2388
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 1: being drafted and being on the team. Yeah, you can't

2389
01:49:58,360 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 1: go back and get that. You got to take it

2390
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 1: out the salary that he's getting, which is substantially less

2391
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 1: than what it is for some of these guys. But

2392
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:08,639
Speaker 1: I mean, you know the landscape in the AFC East,

2393
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:10,680
Speaker 1: you know the you're on your way to Patriots camp soon.

2394
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:13,719
Speaker 1: The Patriots, you know, are the colossus of the division,

2395
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 1: standing astride everybody else. What's the best season look like

2396
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:20,680
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills? Realistically, this year, I think it's

2397
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 1: similar to what you had last year. I mean, and

2398
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 1: and you guys know this better than I do. But

2399
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 1: I've Steve and I talked about this during practice today.

2400
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 1: Where rarely do you see a first year head coach,

2401
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:36,120
Speaker 1: a new GM, a team go nine and seven et

2402
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 1: clear way into the playoffs and then recognize we might

2403
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 1: not be as good as that books on paper, and

2404
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 1: then make the necessary changes to build long term. And

2405
01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 1: I think that takes a lot of guts. I think

2406
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 1: the word Steve used that I've I've stolen his discipline.

2407
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 1: I think that that really describes it well. So long,

2408
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 1: long winded answer to your question. I think that if

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01:50:57,240 --> 01:51:00,680
Speaker 1: they achieve the goal where they got last year, with

2410
01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:03,800
Speaker 1: what are obviously changes they wanted to make to this roster,

2411
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:05,880
Speaker 1: than that to me would be a win. Yeah. We

2412
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 1: actually a week ago, right you had, we had this

2413
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 1: topic of discussion. Is this year more difficult for Sean

2414
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 1: McDermott than last? I think I think it is a

2415
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:17,960
Speaker 1: lot of ways. It is. It is because the pressure

2416
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:20,920
Speaker 1: is now on them. They they they've proven that they've

2417
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 1: got this plan that got more out of a roster

2418
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:25,519
Speaker 1: that was less talented last year. Um, so now that

2419
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 1: they've added this, how are you gonna how are you

2420
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 1: gonna justify going out and say, winning seven games or

2421
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:34,639
Speaker 1: six games with a roster that really has more talent

2422
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:36,439
Speaker 1: than you did a year ago, at least on paper.

2423
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:39,600
Speaker 1: And that's just so okay, Well that's a and now

2424
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm asked the quick So this roster, in your mind

2425
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 1: is more talented that because I just see the holes

2426
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 1: or what they lost an offensive line Tyrod, while he

2427
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:52,760
Speaker 1: had his obvious limitations, at least in the moment right now,

2428
01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:55,840
Speaker 1: I think he probably is the most capable star starter. Yeah,

2429
01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:58,760
Speaker 1: and then I guess those would be your your problem.

2430
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:02,679
Speaker 1: Last year, at this time, they traded away Ron Darby

2431
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins um the linebacker to Kansas City. Uh yeah,

2432
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:14,639
Speaker 1: second round. Oh yeah, we all lost him. Uh, traded

2433
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 1: him away. Then midway through the season they traded Marcel

2434
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:19,880
Speaker 1: Darius Um and then they got back guys that were

2435
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 1: question marks like Jordan Matthews EJ. Gaines, who actually turned

2436
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:24,679
Speaker 1: out to be a very good player for the Bills,

2437
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 1: but they were unknowns and they traded for him at

2438
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:29,120
Speaker 1: the end of training camp. So in a roster that

2439
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden had had. They traded away some

2440
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 1: pretty markey players high draft picks over the last handful

2441
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 1: of years, and you know, replaced him with guys you know, okay,

2442
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:41,680
Speaker 1: you know, and then went out in this culture that

2443
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:44,639
Speaker 1: they had, and you know, they stole some games early

2444
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:47,680
Speaker 1: on and got into the playoffs. Like you said, um,

2445
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 1: I thought they got better by subtraction last year and

2446
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:57,800
Speaker 1: that this year they're not going to have that excuse. No.

2447
01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:01,400
Speaker 1: And but again where we started with this is I'm

2448
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:05,440
Speaker 1: in pressed because I even just as in comparison Baltimore

2449
01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:08,320
Speaker 1: where I live, I see that team up close and

2450
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 1: personal a lot. I thought that they looked at what

2451
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:13,679
Speaker 1: they did last year, they didn't even make the playoffs,

2452
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 1: and thought we're close. And I would say that you

2453
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 1: weren't close at all. You played a lot of backup quarterbacks,

2454
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:22,880
Speaker 1: they didn't make maybe some changes that could have um

2455
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:26,439
Speaker 1: forecasted things better for the future. They decided to sort

2456
01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 1: of rerack it, if you will, and try and attack

2457
01:53:29,439 --> 01:53:31,840
Speaker 1: it with what they had last year. And I think that,

2458
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 1: to me is more common than what has been shown

2459
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 1: by Brandon, by Sean and by this this front office,

2460
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:40,800
Speaker 1: this organization to say, you know, we'll be realistic about

2461
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:42,759
Speaker 1: what we did last year. Really interesting. We got Baltimore

2462
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:44,840
Speaker 1: Week one. We're going to Baltimore week one. It'll be

2463
01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:49,000
Speaker 1: it'll be a fascinating they actually, I think did get

2464
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 1: a little bit better with some of that. I've been

2465
01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:53,080
Speaker 1: more I was out of there. I've been watching their

2466
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:56,560
Speaker 1: training camp some and uh, they got better offensively. I

2467
01:53:56,600 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 1: mean Michael Crabtree, he's he's a good play He's he's

2468
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:03,519
Speaker 1: a wide receiver that that Joe hasn't had probably since

2469
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 1: Hamm cum Bold. Right. Evan, thanks for this heavy always

2470
01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:10,760
Speaker 1: appreciate he's talking about. See the seminary seminar dinners on you. Yeah,

2471
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 1: there you go. Evan Washburn, reporter analysts for CBS Sports

2472
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:16,679
Speaker 1: joining us. We're at training camp. Want to hear fromview

2473
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:18,800
Speaker 1: when we come back. Who is the X factor player

2474
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:21,599
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. That's our Twitter poll. We'll talk

2475
01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 1: to you about it on the telephone line at eight

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01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:25,840
Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty and toll free one eight

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01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:28,840
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty Back but Moore

2478
01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:31,920
Speaker 1: one Bills Live from Bill training Camp on Buffalo Bills Radio.

2479
01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 1: Welcome back and Bill's training Camp. John Murphy and Steve Tasker.

2480
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 1: Thanks to Evan Washburn for joining us on the set.

2481
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 1: We met a heck of a show pack Kerr when

2482
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:50,400
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman, Peter King, Harrison Phillips, Evan Washburn, and Steve

2483
01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 1: Tasker's managed to stay awake for all of those interviews

2484
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:57,320
Speaker 1: after a very early morning, still complaining, this is how

2485
01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 1: we work. This is how we're media people work. You

2486
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 1: keep bringing it up. This is how I gonna get like.

2487
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 1: It's not gonna say, you know, like, oh, actually we

2488
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 1: picked me up at eight. No, it's still six fifteen

2489
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:08,240
Speaker 1: that you picked me up. I picked up at six fifteen.

2490
01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:10,000
Speaker 1: This is how we rolled. I bought the coffee. I

2491
01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:13,000
Speaker 1: know that because I needed it. On Twitter today, our

2492
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 1: discussion point, We're gonna get to your phone calls too.

2493
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 1: Here's what we're talking about. Who will be this year's

2494
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:20,840
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's X factor player defined as this a special

2495
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:24,040
Speaker 1: quality difficult to describe. X factor as a person with

2496
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 1: strong but unpredictable influence. So who are you not thinking of?

2497
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:29,839
Speaker 1: Who are people not thinking of? We're gonna have an influence,

2498
01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 1: strong and unpredictable influence on the Bill season on Twitter.

2499
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 1: On the Twitter poll, it's very close, which Steve will

2500
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 1: tell you means it's a good poll. Thirty percent leading

2501
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:41,280
Speaker 1: the poll is others, so somebody we didn't name. Twenty

2502
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:43,360
Speaker 1: seven percent of you choose Charles Clay that would be

2503
01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 1: my choice. Twenty three percent of you choose Vonte Davis,

2504
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 1: twenty percent choose Zay Jones. Over a thousand votes already,

2505
01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 1: what do you think who's the Bills X Factor player

2506
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 1: this year? The fact that it's so close means it's

2507
01:55:56,440 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 1: a good poll. Steve, Yeah, and it is a good poll.

2508
01:55:59,680 --> 01:56:01,880
Speaker 1: And it's it's fun to think about too, because it

2509
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:04,760
Speaker 1: puts you in the mind set of the positive. You know,

2510
01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 1: it puts you in the mindset of, Okay, who's really

2511
01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:10,800
Speaker 1: gonna you know, who do I see being the guy

2512
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:15,000
Speaker 1: that is something that nobody else sees. That's the fun

2513
01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 1: part of it. And it also kind of catches your fanship.

2514
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:19,680
Speaker 1: I like the way it gets you thinking down the

2515
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:21,760
Speaker 1: roster a little bit too. Yeah, it's just picking a

2516
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 1: quarterback or picking Kelvin Benjamin. You gotta go a little

2517
01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 1: bit down the roster a little bit. And let's face it,

2518
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 1: that's what we do every day here and and our listeners,

2519
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 1: and we've had conversations about just about every player on

2520
01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:34,080
Speaker 1: the roster at some point, and and to go down

2521
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:36,920
Speaker 1: that roster and remember what they bring and what they

2522
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:39,560
Speaker 1: and on both sides of the football, offense and defense,

2523
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:42,000
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, he kind of gets you

2524
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:44,800
Speaker 1: away from the Jordan Poyers and the Micah Hides and

2525
01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 1: the Tredavious Whites of the world, and away from the

2526
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:51,560
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and the Lashawn McCoy. Uh, and it puts you

2527
01:56:51,560 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 1: in the realm of who else is there? And that's

2528
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:56,560
Speaker 1: that's pretty who not thinking? Yeah, who am I missing? Yeah,

2529
01:56:56,880 --> 01:56:59,360
Speaker 1: some calls on this topic X factor player? Who will

2530
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:02,080
Speaker 1: it be? Jonathan and Alden is on the air of this, Jonathan,

2531
01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 1: thanks for waiting. You're on the air, John. Then I

2532
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:08,720
Speaker 1: want to say, I think the X fact is gonna

2533
01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 1: be Zay Jones. I think a lot of Bills fans

2534
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:13,600
Speaker 1: was sleeping on him because he was very disappointed this year.

2535
01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:15,720
Speaker 1: But I know he's suffering from a lot of injuries.

2536
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 1: I think I think if he's healthy and um with

2537
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 1: new he don't able to do quarterbacks, I think he

2538
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 1: could get healthy. I think he could be the X

2539
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 1: factor the Bills. And he I think he's I think

2540
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:26,720
Speaker 1: a lot of Bill set was sleeping on him. Yeah

2541
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:29,000
Speaker 1: that's a good and it's and it could very well

2542
01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:31,000
Speaker 1: work out that way. But the simple fact of the

2543
01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 1: matter is, I think there's a lot of doubts about

2544
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:35,800
Speaker 1: Zay Jones. Not only did he disappoint a little bit

2545
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:37,840
Speaker 1: last year, but he's had their off season. It was rough,

2546
01:57:37,880 --> 01:57:39,560
Speaker 1: and then he came back and just when you think, okay,

2547
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 1: let's see what he can do. We'll get Zay Jones

2548
01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 1: back in the fold after the incident in the off season,

2549
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:47,320
Speaker 1: and we'll see what he can do, how he's improved,

2550
01:57:47,320 --> 01:57:50,400
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, he's hurt and now

2551
01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 1: he's off the field again for a football reason, for

2552
01:57:53,480 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 1: an injury, and that's you know, so there's one more

2553
01:57:55,960 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 1: thing that piles on the doubts about Zay Jones. I

2554
01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:01,680
Speaker 1: think that's one of the things that you know, you've

2555
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:03,440
Speaker 1: got to consider him a dark horse. Otherwise, he was

2556
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 1: the starting receiver last year. Why wouldn't he be a contributor,

2557
01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:09,640
Speaker 1: And yet here we are talking about as maybe being

2558
01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:12,440
Speaker 1: a dark horse contributor. So it's, uh, that is an

2559
01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:15,320
Speaker 1: interesting take, and that's it's it's one we we thought

2560
01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:17,640
Speaker 1: a lot about on the on the list. I'm listen.

2561
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 1: I haven't given up on z Jones. It's frustrating because

2562
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:21,840
Speaker 1: you want to see, you know how much the Bills

2563
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:24,840
Speaker 1: need him. Um, you know how much. You know how

2564
01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:28,440
Speaker 1: troubling it was to see his offseason, the injuries and

2565
01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:32,080
Speaker 1: the incident out in Los Angeles, and still the Bills

2566
01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 1: need him even after that, after that incident, after the injury.

2567
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:38,520
Speaker 1: And so for that reason, I would put him as

2568
01:58:38,520 --> 01:58:41,040
Speaker 1: an X factor guy. If he's healthy, and if he

2569
01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:43,120
Speaker 1: plays the way many of us thought he might based

2570
01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:45,440
Speaker 1: on his h the way he played college football, he

2571
01:58:45,480 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 1: could be an important part of this h The puzzler here, Steve,

2572
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a very productive college football wide receiver.

2573
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:52,440
Speaker 1: Why would he not be able to do it here?

2574
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:56,840
Speaker 1: That's it's still puzzling, Yeah, exactly, And and it's we

2575
01:58:56,960 --> 01:58:58,800
Speaker 1: have to wait and see until we get him. He

2576
01:58:58,840 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 1: gets on the field, starts to you know, give us

2577
01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:05,840
Speaker 1: something to that affects our doubts about him and or

2578
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, gives us an idea about how much he

2579
01:59:08,040 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 1: can or has improved. And uh so it's he could

2580
01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:14,240
Speaker 1: be he could absolutely be the X factor. I'll tell

2581
01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:16,680
Speaker 1: you this too, you do know about Zay Jones, Murph,

2582
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:20,160
Speaker 1: He's gonna get a chance because he's he's the number

2583
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:22,160
Speaker 1: two wide out at this point, even though he's not

2584
01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:24,400
Speaker 1: on the field, he's gonna get plugged in there when

2585
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:27,160
Speaker 1: he comes back, and he's gonna get every opportunity to

2586
01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:29,160
Speaker 1: get to take to retain the number two spot for

2587
01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:32,320
Speaker 1: the Bill. So up or down, thumbs up or thumbs down.

2588
01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 1: However his season goes, we're gonna find out as soon

2589
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:37,640
Speaker 1: as he's healthy. Phone call here from David and lockboard. David,

2590
01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:40,200
Speaker 1: thanks for winning, go ahead, you'reround the air with us. Yeah,

2591
01:59:40,440 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 1: Jordan Coyer Hello, why why why? Um? Well, yeah, great

2592
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:57,000
Speaker 1: games last year, most tackles, most picks and yet two

2593
01:59:57,080 --> 02:00:08,080
Speaker 1: sacks too and h the first two games. You yeah, yeah,

2594
02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:11,200
Speaker 1: but you're right. So I love Jordan Poyer. I think

2595
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:14,200
Speaker 1: he would have qualified as a X factor player a

2596
02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:17,680
Speaker 1: year ago because you didn't see that from him before that.

2597
02:00:18,080 --> 02:00:21,200
Speaker 1: But to say he's unpredictable, look, I'm expecting almost more

2598
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:23,160
Speaker 1: of the same from Poyer and from Micah Hyde, his

2599
02:00:23,240 --> 02:00:26,160
Speaker 1: partner back. There's strong playback there. I don't think that qualifies.

2600
02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can keep Yeah, you can't.

2601
02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:30,800
Speaker 1: It's hard to because the Bills secondary may have been

2602
02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:32,600
Speaker 1: as good as any in the league last year. So

2603
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:35,520
Speaker 1: to say they're going to be the X factor, shoot

2604
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:38,520
Speaker 1: there the engine. Yeah, you know, we're just talking to Evan.

2605
02:00:38,560 --> 02:00:40,120
Speaker 1: Can you build a team around how good they are

2606
02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 1: in the back end? I I don't know that you can,

2607
02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:44,760
Speaker 1: but they're certainly pretty solid back there, and now even

2608
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:47,000
Speaker 1: with death players. Raphael Bush had a great day out

2609
02:00:47,040 --> 02:00:50,160
Speaker 1: here today, a former New Orleans Saint defensive back safety

2610
02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:52,840
Speaker 1: and an interception in the end zone. Um, you know,

2611
02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:55,760
Speaker 1: the battle is on for nickel corner. There's a lot

2612
02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:58,000
Speaker 1: of talent back on the back end of the Buffalo defense. Yeah,

2613
02:00:58,040 --> 02:00:59,720
Speaker 1: the back end of the defense is I mean, I

2614
02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:02,680
Speaker 1: don't they're the They're the rod that hangs in your closet.

2615
02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:04,880
Speaker 1: That's what you hang everything on right there. I mean,

2616
02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:08,280
Speaker 1: they're not gonna show up. It's not a closet anymore.

2617
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:11,200
Speaker 1: It's a vacant room, you know. So I mean that

2618
02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:15,640
Speaker 1: the secondary for the Bills, I'm you gotta I almost

2619
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:17,440
Speaker 1: take them off the board for being the X factor

2620
02:01:17,480 --> 02:01:20,600
Speaker 1: because they're they're absolutely you gotta think that's what you're

2621
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:23,320
Speaker 1: depending on. If you're a Bills fan that that defense

2622
02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:26,320
Speaker 1: is gonna They're gonna reap some benefits from an upgraded

2623
02:01:27,120 --> 02:01:30,120
Speaker 1: front seven, no question about it. But that secondary is

2624
02:01:30,200 --> 02:01:32,760
Speaker 1: as solid as any in the National Football League, particularly

2625
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:36,160
Speaker 1: with the addition of Vante Davis. Now, no question, he's

2626
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:38,160
Speaker 1: got some questions he wants to he's got to answer.

2627
02:01:38,240 --> 02:01:40,320
Speaker 1: He's been injured the last couple of years, hasn't been

2628
02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:42,000
Speaker 1: on the field as much as he would like. And

2629
02:01:42,200 --> 02:01:45,880
Speaker 1: he's he's experienced, We'll put it that way. He's long

2630
02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:47,760
Speaker 1: in the tooth. We'll see if he can put together

2631
02:01:47,840 --> 02:01:51,400
Speaker 1: sixteen games. But if he can, that secondary is gonna

2632
02:01:51,440 --> 02:01:55,200
Speaker 1: be a force, I think, and the battle to watchback

2633
02:01:55,240 --> 02:01:57,560
Speaker 1: there is for the nickel corner. Sean mcdermoy talking about

2634
02:01:57,560 --> 02:01:59,960
Speaker 1: it today. They're looking at the fourth round draft pick

2635
02:02:00,080 --> 02:02:03,520
Speaker 1: Karen Johnson and Philip Gaines, an unrestricted free agent who

2636
02:02:03,520 --> 02:02:06,560
Speaker 1: assigned during free agency. McDermot addressed it today, talked about

2637
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:09,320
Speaker 1: that slot cornerback battle and just how important that is

2638
02:02:09,440 --> 02:02:13,600
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills on defense. That's an important position

2639
02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:17,800
Speaker 1: um for us because of what goes on in the

2640
02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:20,960
Speaker 1: slot matchup wise, It's kind of a game within the

2641
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:23,880
Speaker 1: game type of position. If you will. And both of

2642
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:26,360
Speaker 1: those two are off to a good start. You know,

2643
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:29,040
Speaker 1: Philip has been around a few few years with Kansas

2644
02:02:29,080 --> 02:02:32,760
Speaker 1: City there and played for played with with a good defense,

2645
02:02:32,840 --> 02:02:35,640
Speaker 1: and then uh Tarn, just being young, he's come in

2646
02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:40,560
Speaker 1: and really upped his game since you know, since the spring,

2647
02:02:41,080 --> 02:02:42,960
Speaker 1: um and and not that he didn't get off to

2648
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:45,080
Speaker 1: a good start, he did, but then been impressed with

2649
02:02:45,160 --> 02:02:49,000
Speaker 1: the way he's come in and handled the system and

2650
02:02:49,120 --> 02:02:50,760
Speaker 1: what we do and how we do things. And then

2651
02:02:51,040 --> 02:02:53,160
Speaker 1: he's playing fast and physical, which is good to see.

2652
02:02:54,600 --> 02:02:57,400
Speaker 1: Ye if you want to pick a potential X factor guy,

2653
02:02:57,480 --> 02:02:59,880
Speaker 1: pick one of those two rather than Jordan Poyer, right,

2654
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:04,240
Speaker 1: Aaron john And he went on to you know, kind

2655
02:03:04,240 --> 02:03:05,720
Speaker 1: of give a little bit of thumbnail on each of

2656
02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:07,920
Speaker 1: them gains. As you said, he was experienced, played in

2657
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:10,000
Speaker 1: a good defense last year and and it's one of

2658
02:03:10,040 --> 02:03:13,720
Speaker 1: those guys that, um, you know, um, when the lights

2659
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:15,560
Speaker 1: come on, he's going to be show up like a professional.

2660
02:03:15,600 --> 02:03:20,640
Speaker 1: And then he said, Tarn, uh Tarn Johnson gained and

2661
02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:24,760
Speaker 1: improved really fast, and he's fast and very physical, which

2662
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:26,320
Speaker 1: as a slot corner, I mean he's got all the

2663
02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:28,320
Speaker 1: physical tools, which is exactly what they were looking for.

2664
02:03:28,400 --> 02:03:30,520
Speaker 1: That's why they drafted this guy. They want him on

2665
02:03:30,600 --> 02:03:32,680
Speaker 1: the field. They liked his physical tools that he brought

2666
02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:34,240
Speaker 1: to the table, and to put him at the nickel

2667
02:03:34,720 --> 02:03:37,280
Speaker 1: um that says a lot. He's got the physical ability

2668
02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:40,360
Speaker 1: to be a dominant player in there, and that's why

2669
02:03:40,520 --> 02:03:42,880
Speaker 1: you know he's getting plugged into this nickel corner and

2670
02:03:43,120 --> 02:03:45,440
Speaker 1: is in a in a competition. So both those spots

2671
02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:48,480
Speaker 1: are trying, they're they're trying to find which guy's going

2672
02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:51,000
Speaker 1: to give him the better chance. And it's uh. I

2673
02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:53,840
Speaker 1: think at this point you'd have to say both those

2674
02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:57,800
Speaker 1: guys are probably going to be on the final fifty three. Uh,

2675
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:00,640
Speaker 1: and they'll both be looking to cont' been on special

2676
02:04:00,680 --> 02:04:02,840
Speaker 1: teams and all of that. But there's no question that

2677
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:04,760
Speaker 1: those are the two guys that he looked at at

2678
02:04:04,760 --> 02:04:07,680
Speaker 1: the nickel corner. And if you're looking for an X factor, yeah,

2679
02:04:07,720 --> 02:04:09,080
Speaker 1: I would go with one of them more than one

2680
02:04:09,080 --> 02:04:10,680
Speaker 1: of the established guys. Who do you got for your

2681
02:04:10,840 --> 02:04:13,320
Speaker 1: X factor? For the Buffalo Bills roster Carmen on the

2682
02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:17,040
Speaker 1: line from Ken Moore, Carmen, go ahead, welcome to the show, Yeah, guys,

2683
02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:19,840
Speaker 1: good show, as you wish. Wall It's like, thank you,

2684
02:04:21,040 --> 02:04:23,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, my X factor this year? I think would

2685
02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:27,400
Speaker 1: he be Matt Blano just last year? I think he

2686
02:04:27,520 --> 02:04:30,280
Speaker 1: was getting better every game and prove me. And I

2687
02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:33,520
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be uh. I think he's gonna be um,

2688
02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna have a standout year and be

2689
02:04:35,960 --> 02:04:40,640
Speaker 1: a huge contributor. He had defriendse. Yeah that's a good

2690
02:04:40,720 --> 02:04:42,680
Speaker 1: that's a good call to Matt. Malano is a guy who,

2691
02:04:42,760 --> 02:04:45,280
Speaker 1: remember last year, was a rookie and people you know,

2692
02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:48,160
Speaker 1: it was a mid round draft pick. I think like

2693
02:04:48,800 --> 02:04:52,280
Speaker 1: and so everybody's like, oh, okay, yeah, we'll sit and watch.

2694
02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:53,840
Speaker 1: And then he had the game where he started getting

2695
02:04:53,880 --> 02:04:54,880
Speaker 1: on the field a little bit and he had the

2696
02:04:54,920 --> 02:04:56,920
Speaker 1: tipped interception against the Raiders and brought it in for

2697
02:04:56,960 --> 02:05:00,200
Speaker 1: a touchdown right before halftime. Set the Bills up really

2698
02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:03,360
Speaker 1: well for the second half, and then all of a sudden,

2699
02:05:03,480 --> 02:05:05,520
Speaker 1: everybody was cheering for him. And I think that's a

2700
02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:08,640
Speaker 1: great call calling for Matt Milano. He's Murph and I

2701
02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:10,840
Speaker 1: both said this. He came back to training camp theors,

2702
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:12,440
Speaker 1: he looks a little different. There's been a couple of

2703
02:05:12,520 --> 02:05:15,640
Speaker 1: guys like Shack Lawson, Kelvin Benjamin and Matt. I think

2704
02:05:15,680 --> 02:05:17,880
Speaker 1: Matt Milano fits into the same mold as being a

2705
02:05:17,960 --> 02:05:20,560
Speaker 1: guy who you can see physically when you look at him.

2706
02:05:21,160 --> 02:05:22,600
Speaker 1: He's a little bit of a different player than he

2707
02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:24,280
Speaker 1: was a year ago, and I think that speaks well

2708
02:05:24,320 --> 02:05:26,120
Speaker 1: to the work habit he put in, the work ethic

2709
02:05:26,200 --> 02:05:28,360
Speaker 1: he put in, and what he has planned for his

2710
02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:31,200
Speaker 1: own future. Thanks for your call. We're talking about who

2711
02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:33,640
Speaker 1: do you have as the X factor player on the

2712
02:05:33,680 --> 02:05:36,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's roster. Let us know what you think. Time

2713
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:38,320
Speaker 1: now for NFL true false. It is brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Yancy's Fancy New York's Artistan Cheese. NFL true and false.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of the issues going on around

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Speaker 1: the National Football League right now. Steve, where are they here?

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Speaker 1: It is Cardinals starting quarterback? Is Sam Dradford's job to lose?

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Speaker 1: True false? As you read some of the reports coming

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Speaker 1: out of Arizona, it looks that way. I know, you

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Speaker 1: know they have Josh Rosen. They like Josh Rosen, but

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Speaker 1: I think Josh Rosen has less of a chance, it

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Speaker 1: appears less of a chance to be there opening day

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Speaker 1: starter than Josh Allen does here and they the difference

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Speaker 1: being one of the differences is the Bills did not

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Speaker 1: invest a lot of money in a veteran free agent quarterback.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals did Sam Bradford. So, yes, I believe it

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Speaker 1: is his job to lose out in Arizona. I'm going

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Speaker 1: true on this. Absolutely. There's no way that Sam Bradford

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be the guy's taking snaps if he's if they

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Speaker 1: can keep him up right. And let's face it, he's

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Speaker 1: an elite quarterback when he's healthy. He's never healthy, so

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Speaker 1: he's not really considered an elite quarterback. He's got that

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Speaker 1: kind of ability when he stands on two feet in

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Speaker 1: a pocket, when he plays and throws the football. There

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Speaker 1: are a few guys in the league that match up

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Speaker 1: to him. Now, there's a handful, but probably less than

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Speaker 1: a handful, that can throw the ball as well as

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Speaker 1: sam Bradford. There's no There's no question. When he gets

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Speaker 1: on the field out in Arizona and training camp and

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Speaker 1: starts slinging around, Josh Rosen's gonna have a hard time

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Speaker 1: measuring up to that in his first training camp in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, because Sam Bradford is legit. When he stands

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Speaker 1: in the pocket and throws it, he wows you. He

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Speaker 1: was the first pick of the draft. That's why he

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Speaker 1: has been around the National Football League and that's why

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Speaker 1: he's had the success he has when he's been healthy.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, there's no question it's his job to lose,

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Speaker 1: all right. NFL True and False Part two. This is

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Speaker 1: an interesting one. DeAndre Hopkins, Houston Texans wide receiver is underrated?

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Speaker 1: True or false? Did you know that last year Hopkins

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Speaker 1: had thirteen touchdown catches for the Houston Texans. They weren't

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Speaker 1: a prolific offense. Fourth in the NFL last year with

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Speaker 1: close to fourteen hundred receiving yards, didn't even play the

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Speaker 1: last game of the year, ninety two yards per game receiving,

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Speaker 1: second only to Antonio Brown. DeAndre Hopkins quote the other day,

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Speaker 1: I definitely feel like I'm underrated. I think I'm the

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Speaker 1: best receiver in the NFL. Now, I'm not saying he's

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Speaker 1: the best in the NFL, but DeAndre Hopkins, Houston Texans

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Speaker 1: wide receivers is underrated. I'm going true with that. I

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Speaker 1: believe that Steve people don't know enough about this guy.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I've seen him play, I've seen guys team's

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Speaker 1: scheme to take him away. He's consistently getting open. The

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Speaker 1: guy makes plays on fifty fifty balls. He makes plays

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Speaker 1: on balls that you don't think he's got a chance

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Speaker 1: to make. He is consistently open, weekend, week out, even

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Speaker 1: when teams don't, even when teams scheme to take him away.

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Speaker 1: And last year he was the driving force behind the

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Speaker 1: emergence of Deshaun Watson. And you forget people in western

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Speaker 1: New York. Here, the Houston Texans were on it last year.

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Speaker 1: They were headed in the right direction. They plugged Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson in very early and the moment they did, their

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Speaker 1: offense started scoring thirty points a game and they had

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Speaker 1: the number one defense. Then j J Watt gets hurt,

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson gets hurt, and they finish up with a

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Speaker 1: top picking, you know, one of the top five picks

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Speaker 1: in the draft. They couldn't win a game after that,

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Speaker 1: but those two losses to them in Deshaun Watson and

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Speaker 1: and JJ Watt turned their complete season upside down. Other

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Speaker 1: than that, they were really playing well, and Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: was a big reason why. That guy is almost uncoverable.

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Speaker 1: I'm with humor, he may not be the best in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. But he's in the conversation. Yeah, Hopkins, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's in. He's in the conversation for being the best

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. There you go, NFL true and false.

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Speaker 1: It has brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's

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Speaker 1: artists in chief Steve and I drive by Yancy's fancy

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Speaker 1: factory every day. Were away here, Yes we did. I

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Speaker 1: always say to see if you want to stop in.

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Speaker 1: Seems like it's at six thirty in the morning. Wants

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Speaker 1: to look at cheese that earlier in the morning. A

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Speaker 1: break career back with more One Bills Live from One

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Speaker 1: Bill Drive. And this is Buffalo Bills Radio. What have

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Speaker 1: Bills Jam packed show today. Lots of training camp infrencient

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Speaker 1: coming to you today. We had Nathan Peterman on the

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Speaker 1: show in the first hour of the show and we

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Speaker 1: asked the Bills second year quarterback about his goal for

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Speaker 1: training camp this year. My goal obviously used to be

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Speaker 1: a starter. You know, it's a competition, and um, that's

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Speaker 1: my goal absolutely, and um, you know, to build chemistry

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Speaker 1: with our receivers, you know, with our whole um offense,

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Speaker 1: and to have that nailed down and be ready fresh,

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Speaker 1: you know, ready to go on week one. Nathan Peterman

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Speaker 1: who joined us in the first hour. Also today we

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Speaker 1: at Harrison Phillips on the show at one thirty Bills

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Speaker 1: third round rampick, second backup defensive tackle. Harrison Phillips talked

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Speaker 1: about becoming more comfortable in the Buffalo defense. Sometimes it's

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Speaker 1: it stinks. Um, if you can anticipate a block you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get, but still, no, you just gotta fire up field.

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Speaker 1: So you know, maybe this guy's gonna go this way.

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Speaker 1: So oh, I think he's gonna go there, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: step that way. No, step forward and make sure you know,

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Speaker 1: don't don't guess wrong. And as long as you're creating

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Speaker 1: a new line of scrimmage, you're fast enough to chase

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02:10:51,760 --> 02:10:54,360
Speaker 1: things down. And it's again just kind of learning my

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Speaker 1: abilities as well as trusting myself that I am fast

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Speaker 1: enough to you know, maybe step forward and go down

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Speaker 1: and don't make a play. Things like that. Harrison Phillips

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Speaker 1: signed the show with us today. He loved talking to

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Speaker 1: Harrison and Who, Nathan Peterman, and to Pat Kirwin, Peter King,

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Speaker 1: Evan Washburn. If you missed those interviews, they'll be up

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Speaker 1: on our website momentarily. Man a lot of stuff the

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Speaker 1: players that are going today. The player it's good to

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Speaker 1: hear like Harrison Phillips's perspective. I think he fits them mold.

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Speaker 1: You've talked about it a lot, kind of the culture

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Speaker 1: they they've tried to establish. Here, a guy who doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to be compared to Kyle Williams because it sounds like,

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Speaker 1: quite frankly, he doesn't think he measures up right. That's

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Speaker 1: essentially what he was saying. He's a humble guy. But

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Speaker 1: he's also brings a lot to the table, and he's

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Speaker 1: and he's impressed a lot of people and you and

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Speaker 1: I too with the way he's handled the interviews and

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Speaker 1: the way he's handled all the questions that have been

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Speaker 1: thrown at him as a young draft pick in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's been fun to watch all of these guys. Tremaine Edmonds.

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Speaker 1: We'd love to have him on again and get a

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Speaker 1: chance for people to get it to get to know him.

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Speaker 1: Who was an outstanding kid, just like when we had

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen on the other day. So it's it's a

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Speaker 1: great time a year. All these people we had on

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Speaker 1: the show today was a phenomenal show because we had

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Speaker 1: there's so much going on over here, you know, getting

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Speaker 1: into that second week of camp or into the heat

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Speaker 1: of it. The preseason games are still way off on

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Speaker 1: the horizon. They're still more than a week away. So

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Speaker 1: it's really right now the nuts and bolts of the

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Speaker 1: NFL season where the rubber meets the road, and it's

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Speaker 1: fun to see all that take place like that. We're

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Speaker 1: in the meat of training camp right now. Our Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll today was interesting, asking you to pick who you

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Speaker 1: think will be the Bills X Factor player this year. Again,

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Speaker 1: the definition a person was strong but unpredictable influence on

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Speaker 1: how the season goes. On Twitter, thirty percent of you

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Speaker 1: didn't like our choices. You had somebody else, and we

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Speaker 1: heard a lot of those. Twenty seven percent of you

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Speaker 1: on Twitter said Charles Clay would be your selection, twenty

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Speaker 1: three percent said Vante Davis, twenty percent said Zay Jones.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for all of your participation and your feedback.

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Speaker 1: Will you hope to get more of it tomorrow. Tomorrow

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Speaker 1: will be a good day. We hope Steve open to

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Speaker 1: have Robert Foster on the show tomorrow and a couple

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Speaker 1: of other guests here from treating wide receiver rookie out

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Speaker 1: of Alabama, would be nice. We've had him on once before,

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Speaker 1: but it'll be fun to see now that he's got

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Speaker 1: a few reps under his belt, how things have changed

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Speaker 1: him in his shorts. And Kelvin Benjamin scheduled to join

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Speaker 1: us tomorrow as well. So a veteran and a rookie

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Speaker 1: wie receiver is Kelvin Benjamin is one of those guys

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Speaker 1: like wow, I mean, yeah, he's in He's a professional athlete.

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Speaker 1: Way do you see him Tomorrow's way do you see us?

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Speaker 1: We're on the area doing tomorrow. Our production assistant today

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Speaker 1: George Glass, Jeff Colton and Thomas Homander, Kelly Rude, Jjjurito,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Kargis and James Robell. Our producer Jay Harris. We're

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow right here, not at One Bill's Drive, but

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Speaker 1: at Bill's training camp. Steve and I back tomorrow. One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Life presented by Kalida Hell from Bill's training camp

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Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bill's radio