1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Guess what decision We're about to make. Horrible decision. 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 2: We bike at it it yee y'all, welcome to another 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: episode of. 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Decision. Hey, y'all, mi'sy. 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: Girl man dB ak a Bay the Stallion aka book 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: or pus aka Dan Beach. 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm weazy and we are in la We just are 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: on the back. What do you say that? On the 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: heels of Baby and Awards, we were nominated for Best Podcast. 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: We didn't win it, but if you saw us, clearly 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: we looked like winners. Hello, and wanted y'all to know 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: if you live in London on May fifth, we're gonna 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: be there at the Earth Theater. It's our rescheduled climax 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: to a date that's right in CS. It's a brand 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: new show. 16 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: So make sure you go on over to whorehive dot 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: com to get your tickets for London. And I guess 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: I figured we would just start with a little bit 19 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: of catch up of where we're at in our love 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: lives and things. If you guys are on Patreon, Weezy 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: came to Vegas with her little boo thing and we 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 2: all go together. I realized that not only is this 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: healing journey and therapy making it hard for me to 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: motherfucking date. You know what else, I realized my friends 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: being so fucking awesome is also like, so hear me out. 26 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: We were at dinner, and what I keep saying I 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: want is I would love a partner who's able to 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: hop on a plane and meet me in some of 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: the cities because I'm touring with Tonight's Conversations, I'm on 30 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: tour till June. 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: We just did the ABN in Vegas. 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: I'm here in LA for work. I would love a 33 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: partner who could like pull up on me. I love 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: hotel sex. I've been saying it. Yeah, So I would 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: like someone to just be able to travel and be 36 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: around and kind of support me in the things that 37 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: I do business wise, And I realized why are where 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: people are like. 39 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: Well, that's a lot to ask My friends do it. 40 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't think asking someone to show up for you 41 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: at well, no, it's. 42 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: A lot to ask for If hear me out for 43 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: a man with a regular job, My life is not regular. 44 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: So if I meet someone who's not a celebrity or 45 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: even y'all know, I'd be dating ball players and the 46 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: guys that I fuck with. It's a lot to ask 47 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: for because people have their own lives. However, my friends 48 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: have also found a way to pull up on me 49 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: in any seat. They're actually asking me, bitch, sim of 50 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: your tour dates, which ones can I come to? And 51 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: so having like friends that are wanting to be a 52 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: part of this with me and wanting to travel and 53 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: make plans and create experiences, I realize this is something 54 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: I want from a partner, and it's something I haven't 55 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: been able to get. It's something that with the type 56 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: of men I like to date, they don't have the 57 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: time to do. So it's like, damn, I don't know 58 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: if I guess I'm just to a place where I'm 59 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: starting to think that the things that I want are 60 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: going to be hard to come by. But also I'm 61 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: finding so much happiness in my friendships that I'm just 62 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: like and what I need in a go para. 63 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I've been happy with my friends for 64 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: a long time. You have too, We've always had great friends, 65 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: travel and do shit with that shit. Do not keep 66 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: me for looking for Nichols. I don't know what it 67 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: is for me right now. I don't know, but I 68 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: mean I think that maybe because you've gotten to fill 69 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 1: your schedule with dates with friends, vacations with friends. That's 70 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: probably it, right, like being able to have something in 71 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: a docade to where you get to have a new experience. 72 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: And yes I did bring him last year. You brought 73 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: your boot. I brought my ex lush and so I 74 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: didn't get to spend time with him, but it was cool. 75 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: I actually enjoyed all of us hanging out together. And 76 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: I recently had a conversation with name drop time so Questlove, 77 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: who is in his fifties and you know, has been 78 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: famous his whole life. Obviously I'm not roots level famous, 79 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: but he went to dinner with him with me and 80 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: he said something to me that I really appreciated. He's like, Yo, 81 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: it's really nice to see you with a very confident 82 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: and secure guy, because, like you know, being a plus 83 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: one is not everybody's security. Nope, you know what I mean. 84 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: Like it. He's a man being a plus one to 85 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: a woman like you, Like, it's good to see that. 86 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: He's just like and it's funny because he called him 87 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: a civilian to his face. He's like, you know, when 88 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: we ate civilians, my dad is hilarious. 89 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: But also military people use civilians, I know, but that's funny. 90 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: But it was funny to hear him say it, and 91 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: I remember we got in a car. He was like, 92 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever had somebody called me a civilian. 93 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: But that's funny. Yo, I mean what you just said 94 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: though about time. He is an investor, so it's like 95 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: he dictates his own schedule. But yeah, I mean you're right. Like, 96 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: even though I think the b Simone clip, we jumped 97 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: up her ass and we always one of those people. 98 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: I didn't do it online because I fucked with being Simone, 99 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: But I remember being like, why would she say that? 100 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: But I kind of if she meant the flexibility and 101 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: an entrepreneurial thing, I do understand that because it's been helpful. 102 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: It's the flexibility. My ex did have a nine to 103 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: five though, but he just uh was more up to 104 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: change to where he could be remote. But yeah, I 105 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: mean it's super important when you want to travel with 106 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: the person you're dating. But it was fun Like, I mean, 107 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: he's been around two for our shows, so I do 108 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: like that I can bring him to work events and 109 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: he fits. 110 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I like, I think that that's a great 111 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: thing to have, especially like in this space. 112 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: I remember when I did Revolt Summit and he. 113 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: Joined me down there, and literally it became an argument 114 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: in air quotes that literally as soon as we got back, 115 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: because I realized just how comfortable he was in spaces 116 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: where men made more money than him. He was jealous 117 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: of or I don't even want to say jealous, but 118 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: he was uncomfortable and showed insecurity around young Berg hit Maker, 119 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: who's been my friends since I was fucking eighteen. 120 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: Sorry name dropped to. 121 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: My guess, and then oddly enough Yo, I made the 122 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: joke that he was jealous of, and he admitted to 123 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: being jealous of Asante. 124 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: He was insecure around Jason Lee, and I was like, 125 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: what is up with you being intimidated or insecure around 126 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: these men who are gay? I don't understand now I'm 127 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: doing to think it was money. No, it because handsome people. 128 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: For sure, it was a money thing, and he was 129 00:05:58,960 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: very handsome. 130 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: But even making the money he made in retirement was 131 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: not close at all to like being around celebrities. 132 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: It's just it's not the same, it's not comparable. 133 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 2: I don't care if a man makes one hundred thousand dollars, 134 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: if you bring him around niggas who make millions. 135 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: They're an insecure A millionaire might feel into uncomfortable right 136 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: a millionaires. But yeah, we did talk about it too, 137 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: because while we were at the Avians, there were moments 138 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: where I went to the bathroom he was with Mandy, 139 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: or we were separated, and uh I was getting a 140 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: nigga's number or their Instagram. I can't remember because I 141 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: want to interview him. I remember one guy was all fondoles. 142 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: I saw four I know he DM me and he 143 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, but there was a few people. 144 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 1: I was like, I'd love to have you on Horrible, 145 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: and there wasn't. I don't know. He's very secure in 146 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: like who he is. But I also think that we're 147 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: having a lot of dialogue about respect, which I think 148 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: anybody listening, obviously Mandy are talking about industry shits. I 149 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: don't want to make you feel left out, but I 150 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: do think that there's conversations about respect that I've never had, 151 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: that people need to have because my exit made me 152 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: feel very uncomfortable. I remember taking him to Andrew Schultz's 153 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: show at town Hall and Akasha's wife, who's beautiful, we 154 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: had her on. He was like talking to her a 155 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: little too long and like flirting with her. And I 156 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: remember Alex and I did I ever tell the story? No, 157 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think you Okay, Well I probably 158 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: didn't tell her at the time because it was a 159 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: lot you know what I'm saying, and it was kind 160 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: of embarrassing but fun. So took him a town Hall 161 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: show starting with another man's girlfriend. Oh yeah, what's what's 162 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: the tea? So took him to the town Hall Show, 163 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: which is so crazy theater because such a big deal 164 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: for Andrew. And I texted Andrew the day we did 165 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: our sho. I was like, man, I remember being here 166 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: and you were excited to be at the town Hall 167 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: Theater and now I'm sold out. But now he's sold 168 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: out Arena's MSG multiple dates, Like MSG is coming next 169 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: for us too, So basically, uh, he gets there, he 170 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: gets lit. Now My ex was a very friendly and 171 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: fun nigga. So I was just very confused on how 172 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: to You don't want to make someone who's extroverted feel stifled, 173 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: right because men have probably done that to you, just 174 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: like absolutely and I felt that too. They have. So 175 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: we get to the after party Fandrews Show and Occacio's 176 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: wife is there and he's flirting with her, and Alex 177 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: literally was like, bro, do you see this, nigga? How 178 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: do you determine flirt? 179 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: Flirt over just having a friendly conversation talking about their. 180 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: Beauty to them? Okay, how beautiful? She was, asking what 181 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: she likes to do for fun on the weekend or something. 182 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe not that, but there was something about 183 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: I guess his attractiveness towards her or leaning into her 184 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: or whatever that made her uncomfortable to the when where 185 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: she said something and how embarrassing for me. I don't 186 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: know if she directly said something or someone else did that. 187 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: People were like, who's this dude? And of course he's not. 188 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: It is Andrew's section, right, who's this dude? And then 189 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: you gotta says, Wheezy's man, how fucking embarrassing. And what's 190 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: even more, we're embarrassing is the first time I heard 191 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: I love you from my ex was that night I 192 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: walked out of the bar. Was it floor room or 193 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: something or I don't know what it's called, but anyway, 194 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: basically I left and I was like, you're disrespectful, You're 195 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: an embarrassment to me, and it's clear that like this 196 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: isn't gonna work, and he was like, yo, you just 197 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: made me feel so comfortable to be free and open. 198 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I love you. And so it was 199 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: so manipulative, right because you were upset on the moment. 200 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: But then also I guess I hear that that and 201 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: now he's using in the cavea. 202 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: Right, and I realized like, oh, like some niggas really 203 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: just have it or they don't. Mandy and I went 204 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: to the bathroom and Madreid Nigga was talking to one 205 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: of her friends. So the next day we're talking about, 206 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: you know, you talk about the night and I was like, 207 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: who do you think was the cutest? And he was like, oh, 208 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: I thought, And there was a girl he was talking to. 209 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't know her name, not Stacy, not be oh Melanie. 210 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, she's really beautiful. And you know, 211 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: everybody has a type. And so I was like, you know, 212 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: I have to say this to you. I agree, like 213 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: I knew that was probably your type, right, skin whatever, 214 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: very like natural looking. And I said, I really don't 215 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: feel like you will disrespect me. I hope I'm not 216 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: going to embarrass myself one day, but I'm so impressed 217 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: by how easy it is to turn my back and 218 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: I haven't felt that in a long time. And we've 219 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: had so much conversation about that, you know, like what 220 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: would make me feel insecure? What I don't like? How 221 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: far you can go? And I need to do that 222 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: in every relationship, and I think you and I are 223 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: learning to do that with each other too. Hey, I 224 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: need you to let me do this or do that, 225 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: or I don't like when you talk to me like this. 226 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: This across the board needs to be a thing. I 227 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: need to tell people how I feel respected. And you 228 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: use that word with me in a text the other day, 229 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I didn't know you felt 230 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: disrespected by this small thing, and you probably knew. I 231 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: didn't know I was doing that, But using words like 232 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: that really makes an impact. Girl. I brought that text 233 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: message up in therapy. I was like, can you believe 234 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: how well like it was just sitting with me and 235 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: we had four episodes. Let's read it, let's read it, 236 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: let's read Okay, day not as telling y'all tea on 237 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: a regular episode. I'll read your text to me and 238 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: you read mine back. Okay, because so Mandy texted me 239 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to have a guest on that I thought 240 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: was kind of whack, but she looked, let me hold on, 241 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: let me go back. I know, damn, we we were 242 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: we would take We've been taking a little lot. Oh 243 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: I found it hop row So I found these guests 244 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: who was on botched and I was like, damn, I 245 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: kind of want to ring around. But she don't be born. 246 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: After twenty minutes, man, He's like, oh wait, no, this 247 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: came after you uh talking about the escape room? No, no, 248 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: I know. Oh, okay, okay, so Mandy said, my ears hurt. 249 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: This question, won't be talking. Oh so, I said, you know, 250 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm not in the mood to try it this week, 251 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: but I'd be down to have guests on for just 252 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: thirty minutes. Maybe we just invite them to sit with 253 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: us for the horrible decision. It could be cool, and 254 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: maybe we end the wholemail alone. She says to me, 255 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: I'd really like to go by our outlines this week. 256 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time working on them, and 257 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: the free flow we've done in the past doesn't work 258 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: for me. In the past four episodes, it literally spins 259 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: my brain, and I'd like for my time to be respected. 260 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: I would also love your outline sooner so I can 261 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: add to them and be better prepared for guests. And 262 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: Weezy's response was, I understand. 263 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how you feel disrespected on time exactly, 264 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: but I'm willing to listen. But you should know I'm 265 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: not trying to disrespect you while we're podcasting or interviewing 266 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: a guest if if I'm not asking outline questions, but 267 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: I'll try to be mindful that you want segments done. 268 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: And it's really like to me where even the disrespect 269 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: And again, y'all know how anal I am with time, 270 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: So to me, the disrespect wasn't that I felt like 271 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: you were intentionally disrespecting me. I just felt like my 272 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 2: time was being disrespected because I'm working on I'm working 273 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: on an outline and then I would love to look 274 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: over yours and I'm not getting them early. 275 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: So it wasn't that you were doing anything. 276 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: But I literally brought that up in therapy and I 277 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: was like, this feels so good that I'm not just 278 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: sitting on this and now cycling in my head that 279 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: Weezy just hates me and doesn't want to and normally 280 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: in the past, I've done that, and so I was 281 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: just like, we've been potting a lot. 282 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: We had a great time in Vegas. 283 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: We even party together with fucking gez we outside and 284 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, this feels so good. 285 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: Let me just let her know we're recording one more episodes. 286 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: Can we do this? And like, I really appreciated that. 287 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: Response because I was like, this, this makes me feel 288 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: like if something is bothering me now, I can't come 289 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: to you. And let's be very clear, we've talked about 290 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 2: it in the past. We both just felt like, fuck, hey, 291 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: this bitch, she ain't gonna listen, she ain't gonna respect. 292 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something nice I said about you 293 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: behind your back. Oh not off. So there's this moment 294 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: in the club where I'm dancing with this nigga and 295 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: Mandy is recording us and said. 296 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: I got you, bitch right, and did I send it 297 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: to you? I gave you, gave you all the content. 298 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: I was like, because you know, she'd beking little stuff 299 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: with her niggas and I was like, okay, let me 300 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: get her dancing real quick. So he said to me 301 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: later that night, like, what was what was up with that? Like, 302 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: because he doesn't even have. He was like, what was 303 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: up with that? Like, you know, with her saying I 304 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: got you to you because he knows that Mandy and 305 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: I have had some beef in the past. I was like, 306 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: Mandy's being placed on that moment, and I really feel 307 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: I was like Mandy and I at least I could 308 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: say this if I know nothing, we're never gonna out 309 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: each other. And I was like, I hope, Mandy, you 310 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: know that wasn't going on in today. I know, but 311 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: how I'll be hout of my own niggas. I ain't 312 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: gonna post don't nigga. So I said, Yo, Mandy and 313 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: I have enough communication. It's funny because I said to him, 314 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: I might have said this pervading, I can't fucking stand her, 315 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: but I know this one thing, She's not gonna do that. 316 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: And you know he doesn't know you well. So when 317 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: Andy saying I got you, bitch, I know, Mandy's like, oh, 318 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: I got you being bowed up so that you could 319 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: have it for memory because I ain't gonna be bad. 320 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: I'll be mad that I ain't got a lot. 321 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: Of like off, like just photos and memories with my 322 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: partner without us posing. Like when I'm not with my fund, 323 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: but also like, my friends love candid photos, so it's 324 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: the thing that we do when we're all out, so. 325 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: We But that also goes back to and I was 326 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: using the word respect a lot. I'm like, listen, like 327 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: we are really respecting of privacy. Yeah. I was like, 328 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: I knows. As much as we talk about eatings on 329 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: this spot, baby, we probably shit we don't say, but 330 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, it felt good. And he was like, Okay, 331 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you feel that and that you guys 332 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: have And I was like, yeah, there's a lot of 333 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: respect there. I was like, we you know, it's like this. 334 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: Oh he told me when we were dancing a Jeezy together. 335 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: He was like, oh, you wretchet. He was like, you're 336 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: a city girl. I was like, yeah, you know, that's 337 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: Mandy Sheep. But no, I think that every relationship just 338 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: a rap it. There's gotta be some conversation again on 339 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,479 Speaker 1: how you like to be respected. 340 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, with Mandy's maybe it's timing. I'm working on what 341 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: respects look like right now with me, and. 342 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't think I knew more either, And so in openness, 343 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: it was so interesting to learn what I needed and 344 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: liked and like, obviously, growing things will happen. I haven't 345 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: really had a big fight with him or anything, and 346 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm so scared. You know, we had a six month market. 347 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god, well that's what not up. 348 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Everything just seems like smooth sailing. But yeah, 349 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: you kind of got to have a situation happen to learn. 350 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: And so if it's not learning from your mistakes, you've 351 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: got to maybe learn from your past traumas. So I 352 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm in between this and I don't know 353 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: what you think. Uh. Alex specifically tells me all the time, 354 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: don't be telling these niggas. Hire everybody fucks you up. 355 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: Don't dumping your trauma niggas. Don't be telling them nothing either. 356 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: But Okay, I realized talking about what Old Bay did 357 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: to me has course corrected a lot of shit for 358 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: this nigga. Mm hmm, because he's like, oh, yeah, I 359 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: know you don't like this or I understand you've been 360 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: lied to, Like so some of it's helpful. I think 361 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: there's a way you've got to do it. But I'm 362 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: curious with you because you've overshared on this podcast. I'm 363 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: not saying that in Shady would be like you, Oh no, 364 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm an overshare period, okay on everything? So when dating 365 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: now with new people, how much are you telling you 366 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: about your ex? And are you waiting until maybe there's 367 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: somewhere report, are you first date talking? What are you doing? 368 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: I just that's the thing, and I think that's why 369 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm not dating. 370 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: I don't know how to communicate, like even you know, 371 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: sharing the first time out with that nigga that wasn't 372 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: a date, it was a hangout, but not knowing how 373 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: to introduce my lifestyle or my friends anymore, and just 374 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, I literally And I think that's why 375 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: I'm just putting my head down and working as much 376 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: as I am right now, because it's something that keeps 377 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: me from feeling like I have to sit with dealing 378 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: with men, and I don't think I want to. Right now, 379 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 2: I'm figuring out what being respected looks like to me 380 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: after cutting twenty four to seven off, after not feeling 381 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: respected in my last relationship. How do I demand that? 382 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: But also how do I show up to where I 383 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: deserve that truth? And I think so for me, I'm 384 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: just working on myself and that I do believe though, 385 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: in not over sharing the ways in which people showed 386 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: up in a relationship with you, because if you put 387 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: up with shit like. 388 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: For me to say I broke up with this name, 389 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: oh that's a good point, that man. 390 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: Might think that he gonna have chances with me. So 391 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: there's things that I do think you should not tell 392 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: because now this man is going to think he's gonna 393 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: be able to do it to know that I stay. 394 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: After knowing this nigga cheated or disrespected me or hung 395 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: out with my friends behind my back. Yeah, he might 396 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 2: think that, oh, that's not a deal breaker for you 397 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: then and now it is. So I don't want to 398 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: let him know the things that I actually did put 399 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 2: up with because he might. 400 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: Think that I'm gonna put up with that shit with 401 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: his ass too. 402 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: So I think I want to leave out my ex 403 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: for a while, actually, But I do want to introduce 404 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 2: the fact that the things that I did like, I 405 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: did like when we traveled together. I really liked how 406 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: we played, and we should keep talking to them. I 407 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: think that's healthy to me. The healthy part of sharing 408 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: about my last relationship is going to be the things 409 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: that I really liked that I know I want again 410 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: that's going to. 411 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: Be the opal service. Yep. So I'm gonna tell he 412 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: took my trash out. He was very thoughtful. 413 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 2: When my friends came, he said, do you need me 414 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: to go pick them up from the airport? 415 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: Do we need to? 416 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: The things that I really liked about him are the 417 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: things that I'm putting out into the universe that I 418 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: want again and that I feel like I should get again. 419 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 2: So that's what I'm sharing more than anything with the 420 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: guys that I am talking about, just so you know, 421 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: he wont shit, But these were the things I really 422 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: did like. And I don't go into why he wasn't shit. 423 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: I realized the biggest trauma I was facing with dating 424 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: I might have overcome this weekend, actually, which was what 425 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: I did not feel comfortable when I turned my back 426 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: with Obey, Like around your around anyone, anyone not friends. 427 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: I feel like maybe he wouldn't okay. 428 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: But the fact that you put baby maybe you wouldn't 429 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: try them, but maybe you would. 430 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't know, bro, Like I just 431 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: feel like if this was swaps, if one of your 432 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: homegirls was like I don't really felt was weazy like that? 433 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: But him me, when you come to Vegas. I feel 434 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: like Obi would be like, yeah, I feel like this 435 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: nigga would be like hell no. And I feel like 436 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: he would say hell no because he knows, like, I 437 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: don't want to make you look stupid. But Obay was 438 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: just so sex brained that sometimes he couldn't even sex 439 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: brain like seriously, he couldn't look at women like look 440 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: at moments like this is going to hurt this person. 441 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: What also, I think was the issue with him is 442 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: he knew how much he loved me and that he 443 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't be in a relationship with someone else, right, so 444 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: he thought that was all that I would need. She 445 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: know I'm gonna be with her? Nigga, do you know 446 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be with you? Was a real thing. 447 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: Well no, he thought that you that you just wanted 448 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: a relationship, and so I'm just gonna fuck with our 449 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: third trip together in just two months. Right, we went 450 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: to Mexico twice, and I'm not saying I didn't feel 451 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: comfortable when I turned my back, but you know, I'm 452 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: like learning my trust. But for some reason this weekend, 453 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: maybe because it was poor and awards too, girl, I 454 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, like now I felt good especially 455 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: the fact that, like I know, we were looking for 456 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: a bitch right because not kidding. Even in my relationship 457 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: with ol bab, looking for the threesome made me uncomfortable 458 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: sometimes dang because I wanted pussy, but I thought, oh, 459 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: if you don't want to fuck me, he'll try to 460 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: figure out a time to fuck the bitch. Whereas I 461 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: feel like I'm in my newer dating experience with this person, 462 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: I feel like they're like, I want to fuck another bitch. 463 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: I got one hundred hose that would want my Like 464 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: why am I going to fuck this up right now? 465 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: In Vegas? Like this is the goal? Like I don't know, 466 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: And yeah, I think I had so much trauma about 467 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: being turned around in what's going on behind my back. 468 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: Embarrassment and shame is something I was feeling a lot. 469 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: And I also had a lot of moments where I 470 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: was feeling triggered when you were going through shit. I 471 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: remember your Rory and Mall episode when I was like, 472 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: he did that to you, And there's these moments where 473 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: I could maybe even judge you, like why was she 474 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: taking back? But then I look at myself like why'd 475 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: I take him back? And it's like we always point 476 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: the finger at someone else, but not really ourselves. And 477 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: I should have been listening to the man that I was, Oh, 478 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hold you, see I was. I was like, ooh, 479 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: would not be joining all the women in Delulu. Bitch. 480 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 2: I was happily in Delulu and knew it, and just 481 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: I didn't ask what if I s either. I was 482 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: only gonna. I was gonna lead this nigga when I 483 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: was ready to leave him, which is what I say 484 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: all the time. Bitch, I'll tell my friends, girl, I 485 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 2: don't want to hear about this nigga no more. You don't 486 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: leave them when you're ready to leave them. And so 487 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 2: for me sharing it on the pod, I'm glad that 488 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: y'all got to join me in Delulu for so long. 489 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 2: But to me, I understood that I was doing what 490 00:21:59,480 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: most women do. 491 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: I liked him. The dick was fine. 492 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: He's so fine. I'm actually mad too. I like, I 493 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 2: was rating my fine niggas with my friends. That's what 494 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: I was, like, Who the finest niggas? You don't fuck? 495 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 2: So we talking about these things and I literally brought 496 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 2: my ex up. I was like, I think he's top four. 497 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: He tied with a niggas. But I was like, he 498 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: like top four of to me, the sexiest, and he's 499 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 2: number one with sex I can I he's not in 500 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: the four that I know. 501 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: You fucked. I'm sorry, I have to talk about this 502 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: off air. You loved him, No, no, no, no, he to 503 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: me was top four him green eyes, twenty four to seven, 504 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: they're in the top and then the other one I like, 505 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: I call him Detroit on the pot. So I mentioned 506 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: my foulk finest niggas. You're just talking about niggas. You 507 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: fuck manby You're you are doloting. Okay, all right, I 508 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: don't know get into I don't know what list you 509 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: got over there. Oh you know we mentioned him. He's five. 510 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: He's fine, but he not. He not top four or 511 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: five the first one you said. But then the first 512 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: one you said is short bitch. He was like, he 513 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: like five, he's not gonna make. 514 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: Gil y'all X had no hair, bab he was bald. 515 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: I like bitch. I like, mister clean hole. Don't do me. 516 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: I know before him, there was the first time for everything. 517 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 2: Well, let's get into our vanilla shit and this actually 518 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 2: may be me. Uh where I'm going in my dating journey. 519 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: This is from the New York Post and a woman 520 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 2: says that she is head over heels in love with 521 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: an oak tree, but it isn't about sex. I think 522 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: this is about to be me. I'm about to just 523 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: find some I love. If you fall for a tree 524 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 2: in the wood doesn't make a sound. A self proclaimed 525 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 2: eco sexual, bitch. 526 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: I ain't even gonna hold you. 527 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: I'm doing all these sexuals, all these goddamn titles. A 528 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: self proclaimed eco sexual took nature loving to the extreme 529 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: after becoming infatuated with an oak tree, which she sells 530 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 2: fills her with erotic energy. I don't know how to 531 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: tree make her pussy thunk, but that's what she said. 532 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: You get it. Dump. You see what I did there? 533 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 2: Anyway, there was an eroticism with something so big and 534 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: so old holding my back. She is a self proclaimed 535 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 2: eco sexual, defined by Here Come the eco Sexuals as 536 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: a person who finds nature romantic, sensual, and sexy, and. 537 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: Often imagines Earth is their lover. I ain't gonna hold you. 538 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm tired of spiritual hos, bitch. That's what I was 539 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: about to say this for mommy. If you Crystal Rubbin 540 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: Star Jazon zodiac loving bitches. Why is it that these 541 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: you know what spiritual holds are the new vegans for me? 542 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: Not the new okay? And what way explain this? I 543 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: had a problem with the vegans and now y'all niggas 544 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: mean it off. I'm gonna tell you what I like 545 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: now because I ain't gonna hold you is they only 546 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: weed it off because they don't learn how to make 547 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: these motherfuckers that jackfruit tastes like oxtail pool pork chicken. Bitch. 548 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: I hate it because at one point, but bitch them 549 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: things kind of. I actually think vegans are starting to 550 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: understand the process. It ain't really hit yes, so now 551 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: they just making fucking jack fruit tastes like And I 552 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: have a vegan friend that was pregnant and they said, 553 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: oh no, that you need something else. So all the 554 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: vegans that are like I even saw vic mensa like 555 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: plant base ain't gonna make you gain weight. And it's 556 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: like even she was like, they had me say, and 557 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: you need a little paltry hope. Anyway, this is my 558 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: problem with spiritual I don't actually niggas too. The dudes 559 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: are doing it now too, the hotel niggas, Oh no, 560 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: they do. The spiritual people online don't seem real to 561 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: me because they're all selling it. And I don't believe 562 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: that when something is that real and precious to you, 563 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: you're gonna fucking make so much money on it. Like, 564 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: I just don't fucking believe it. Not saying I've never 565 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: contributed to the culture and paid for a psychic or 566 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: some shit, but I just believe that someone's spirituality constantly 567 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: being shared online or for profit isn't a real thing. 568 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: Which looking into this, she does have a self intimacy 569 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: guide and she specializes in erotic storytelling, which means there 570 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: may be some way in which she's fitting off of 571 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: even she bet she's in. 572 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: The New York polls sharing. Okay, well right though, but 573 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: like okay, example, one of my homegirls was like, oh, 574 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: let's go to this breathwork class. And I was like, okay, 575 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: she's a woo woo bitch, not a wool woo. And 576 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: when I got there, the girl that was leading it 577 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: gave hella like you know, oh my god, no, no, 578 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: no vibes, right, and I was kind of feeling it. 579 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, we got me in 580 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: my bag, like my vaporation is just feeling so this 581 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: and that, and so then of course we all go 582 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: after drinks after and not saying spiritual bitches can't drinks, 583 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: fuck or do whatever they want. I'm not saying that. 584 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: But she starts to vent. You know, she knows I 585 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: work in talking about sex whatever, sexpert, what we're gonna say, 586 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: And like all of the insecurities that she was having 587 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: a relationship just started pouring out, and these things she 588 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: was confused about and how she can't manage it. And 589 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, why don't you do some breathwork, bitch? You 590 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: could watch like how can And I'm not saying like 591 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: a therapist can't have a therapist, But there is a 592 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 1: lot of the preachiness in spirituality on social media that 593 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: is just not it for me. I'm curious disus Goldwin 594 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: is my spiritual person. I know. 595 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 2: Have you come across these spiritual type of women in dating? Like, okay, 596 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: would a spiritual woman be a red flag for you? 597 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: Like the girl who wakes up and has to burn 598 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 2: the stage of rubber crystals? Oh my god, I got 599 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: a charge them in the moon tonight. Oh my god, 600 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 2: your rising star mood? What does what does that do 601 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: for you in dating. Does it alarm you at all? 602 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: Is it a red flag? 603 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: This happened last weekend? What time were you born? Danny? 604 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 3: I went to the shorty's house and she had a 605 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: whole little like a like an altar. Yes, in the 606 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 3: back of her closet. 607 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: Wait did she show you? 608 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 609 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all up. Oh you haven't. No, we about 610 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: to judge you, bitch. No, I'm not no, I'm not No, 611 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: You're not going to judge people with alter litsten tell 612 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: you why my close homegirl was Dominican and then practicing 613 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: e foss since she was a child. Does that? Okay? 614 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: So I've never seen her poster altar on instaut I've 615 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: never seen her. Fucking need to tell niggas this, this 616 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: and that like. I think that you can exist in that. 617 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: That can be your religion, that can be your thing. 618 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: I didn't know Beth or well Danny you think, Danny, well, 619 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: how long we've been working with Beth? You know that? 620 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: Shu about it. 621 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: But Denny, as a man with with you being the 622 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 2: only one in the room. If if women have those things, 623 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,239 Speaker 2: how did you receive that? 624 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: What did it turn you off? Did it? Were you inquisitive? 625 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: About it. How do you feel about that? The way 626 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: she made it, she explained it, it was she black. No, 627 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: she's a white woman. Sorry, Oh why. 628 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: Wasn't okay, I'm different anyways. 629 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: Knew me white with an altar satatic syld you like 630 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: brew her? She not if she's not as though, it's 631 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: not voodoo a white a white woman would all go ahead, 632 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: tell us about the wicked nigga you about to be 633 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: in the sucking pace one of them camels on him. 634 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: We got it. This is crazy. 635 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 3: But it was like non denomination. It was like Buddha. 636 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: She was talking about Buddha Jesus and not kind of stuff. 637 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: So like not Buddha, angio lost. 638 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 3: I was worried at first, and then the way she 639 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: explained it. 640 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: Was brought you to the second place offering. No, seriously, 641 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: that's what altars are offering. 642 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: Oh oh, I guess that was a little Yeah, it 643 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: was very spiritual. I was worried at first, but she 644 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: the way she explained it, it wasn't as scary. 645 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: You know, whether you're going a good thing you always 646 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: complained about. Oh, I guess it's not. You be talking 647 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: about how you losing your hair. If a piece of 648 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: that on the floor. 649 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: So wait, so wait, so are you going on a 650 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: second date? Like so it wasn't a red flag. You 651 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: were like on the second date. He was at her house, 652 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: so you fucked. 653 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: And snort? Yes, no, that I covering like four comedian. 654 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: You know, hopefully this you can put this part in 655 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: one of your set. I ain't gonna lie. This needs 656 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: to be a joke. We do need to. I want 657 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: to shout out Danny Sellers real quick. Danny works at 658 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: a wut of media in LA. But I've always said 659 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: when I saw his comedy specials, like, damn his nigga 660 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: quit soon. What what's the name of your comedy special? 661 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: Pound for pounds? It's shot really well and he's hilarious. Anyway, 662 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: don't fuck with this nigga because he like white hose 663 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: in the closet. I love I love black ladies, black ladies. 664 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: I like him, just not right now? Hold on, can 665 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: I ask you? Yeah, I have a friend that told 666 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: me that right now, he's only even one of the 667 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: fuck with white girls. And I said, why he goes 668 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: every time I meet a black girl, He's like, I'm 669 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: not meeting like black girls and ain't doing it in life? 670 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm meeting black women at nice dinners or nice places. 671 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: He's like a lot of them will kind of pressure bro, Like, 672 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be in a relationship. I just 673 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: want to pussy And he's bitchest about to go for 674 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: this shit with a nigga. Have you felt like dating 675 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: white women maybe is less pressure? 676 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm dating black ladies just as much. No, 677 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 3: I'm not one of them, he said. 678 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 4: I'm dating this ain't the only bitch. I'm fucking that's 679 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 4: what you say. I like, I like black ladies honestly, 680 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 4: preferably more. It's more of its culturally. Can we get 681 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 4: along culturally and then create? You got to be a 682 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 4: creator and I'm full time creator, so it can't. It's 683 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 4: hard to be with someone that's nine to five? Is 684 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 4: I don't have an. 685 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: I hear you decent all let's go. But isn't that interesting? 686 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: Like that's I mean, that's crazy though, what he just said. 687 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 3: But it's kind of true. 688 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: I guess, well, I think he's really just not wanting 689 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: to like date, and he's like, and it could be 690 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: this thing, and a lot of white women know it too. 691 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: I've had one or two white women tell me like, oh, 692 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: when I did black guys, they make it very clear 693 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: this is pussy. That's crazy. Though. I don't know if 694 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: I like that stigma being on. I mean, I know 695 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: it exists, but I hate that it does. The white 696 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: girl that I know that told me that, and it's 697 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: funny because I wanted to feel bad for her, but 698 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't, and I don't feel that. I know we 699 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: got white listeners listening to this podcast, but she was 700 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: dating this dude and she was super intom I was like, 701 00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: what happened? She was like, this sounds weird, but I 702 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: think that he started to really get interested in me. 703 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: And he had always talked about how his family would 704 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: be weird if you brought home white girl, and she 705 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: was like, I think he just had to cut it 706 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: because he don't want be white girl. Oh, I ain't 707 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: gonna hold you. I know, like black. 708 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: Families that would rather you bring home a same sex 709 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: person and be gay then bring home someone white. Like yeah, literally, 710 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: don't bring don't bring them crack because this way that's 711 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 2: what they be saying. 712 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: I've actually heard a new thing from someone African who 713 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: said his mama just said, don't bring home no American girl. 714 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: Because they don't know how to treat men, and that 715 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: other cultures apparently are better mothers over there. You agree, 716 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: you just look too like m like I'm just switching 717 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: the He's like, I'm just working, Like I'm just working. 718 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: But you know what, That's interesting though, because when I 719 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: was getting my hair rated in South Africa, which by 720 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: the way, I can't believe that she was only dif Oh, 721 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: we were talking a lot about dating. And I actually 722 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: don't know if I brought this up on page with you, 723 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: but I was curious to know if you've ever had 724 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: none of my homegirls that are African have maybe grown 725 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: up or dated in Africa, maybe they were born there 726 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: or whatever. Right, So the girls were asking me about 727 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: dating in America, and she was like, oh, do they 728 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: call you bitch? Do they say this? They always seem 729 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: so mean? Oh wow? And I was like oh. And 730 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: I was telling them how I was having a great 731 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: experience dying in Africa right now. And so I was 732 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: talking about something I cooked him and they were like, wha, 733 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: you have a job and you cook and like, and 734 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, maybe this is a thing because 735 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: we are such an independent I'm independent. I got my 736 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: own shit, and but that's not the culture in many 737 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: other countries, right, yeah, so it must look like we 738 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: ain't doing shit for niggas, which I mean you up 739 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 1: until it took a long time of me to even 740 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: cook a meal. Bitch, you better come over bed, bitch. 741 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: Anyway, for today's episode, we have been having so many 742 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: great guests on the pod that I wanted to get 743 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 2: through some of these homes else because shit, we ain't 744 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: been answering y'all's mother first. 745 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: We haven't. We've and baby, we got a lot of them. 746 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: Fuck the guests, bitch, we've been having even though our solos, 747 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: we've been having too much fun, Like where were at 748 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: right now? 749 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 3: Dan? 750 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: And I'm like, shit, we gotta oh right good. We're 751 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: gonna get through a couple of the years. 752 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 2: So the first one is the threesome ultimatum, okay, which 753 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: y'all know don't ever work. Y'all, stop with the ultimatum. 754 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 2: There's a whole show called ultimatum, and it don't. 755 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: Ever work for none of them. Motherfuckers. 756 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 2: Don't give people an ultimatum. Just let them go on. 757 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 2: They marry way if they not give you what you want. 758 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 2: But anyways, that's gonna be my answer probably to this email. 759 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 2: Let's see what they have to say. Hey, y'all, here 760 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 2: we go. I'm twenty three. Here We're gonna help you out, bitch. 761 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 2: Hey y'all, I'm a twenty three year old industry worker 762 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: from New York and have been with my current boyfriend 763 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: for four months after being just friends for two years. 764 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 2: We're very sexually active and have engaged in multiple threesomes 765 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: in the past that worked too enjoyable before we actually 766 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: officially started dating. Now that him and I are dating, 767 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: I kind of want him to myself and can't write 768 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: my head around sharing him in the bedroom without giving 769 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of rules that he won't enjoy following. 770 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: He thinks I just need to get more experience with 771 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: women on my own so I can be more comfortable 772 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 2: having a woman in the bedroom for a threesome or 773 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: a foursome. But I think I just don't want to 774 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: share him with another woman. Recently, he's told me that 775 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 2: he doesn't see a relationship working out if I'm not 776 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 2: willing to have another threesome. He doesn't even care who 777 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 2: the girl is. He just wants to fuck me with 778 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: another girl. I'm not sure what to do because I 779 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: love him, but I'm also not about to compromise my 780 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 2: boundaries and force myself to do something I don't want 781 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: to do. 782 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: Please help and be gentle, y'all be do we hat shit? 783 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: Love you guys, and can't wait to read your book. Hmm. 784 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: This is an interesting one because I know that you've had. 785 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 2: A lot of three so I actually shared I dealt 786 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 2: with this in my last relationship, that we were going 787 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 2: to the club so much and inviting so many people 788 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: in that I think some of our connection with each 789 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 2: other lost a bit, and we had so much fun 790 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 2: being around other people. It became a conversation that I 791 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 2: want to stop doing this. I want to stop bringing 792 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 2: other people into the bedroom. And at the moment, I 793 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 2: don't think he wanted to do it. 794 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: You say it became a conversation. It became a. 795 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 2: Conversation first because I was like, I think we need 796 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 2: to pause on this. Not that it would never happen again, 797 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 2: but we needed to take a pause. I don't feel 798 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 2: like it was an ultimatum, and I think that maybe 799 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 2: how she's looking at it, maybe right now, fresh into 800 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 2: this relationship, she doesn't want to. 801 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to give her the dialogue for that, right, Okay, 802 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: I want to just snowball in this because what you're saying, 803 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: you said, I can't do it. Maybe right now, there's 804 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: moments where you open and you close your relationship. Yes, 805 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: for me, I actually talked about this this weekend when 806 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: we were at Poppy's sake. I was like, Yo, I 807 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: know this open shit. We talk about a lot, but 808 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: there are moments that I'm going to maybe possibly you know, 809 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: if we get into and to myself, right and so 810 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: and again we're talking about what we would want our 811 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: relationship to look like. Yep, right, like still kind of 812 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: figuring out if it's a thing for us, And I said, 813 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: pregnancy is one that I know for sure absolutely fucking closed. Right, 814 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: That's a sacred moment. It is. There's so many times 815 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: where I've thought about my friends and open relationships and 816 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: how they've been able to feel. And also I think 817 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: there's moments of like even holidays. Right, This sounds super simple, 818 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: but when I was with Obay, I remember holiday time 819 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: he would kind of like art buzzles around Thanksgiving. My 820 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: family used to live in Orlando. He'd kind of want 821 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: Todays moment. And I'm like, Damn, I'm just kind of 822 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: in this little cocoon right now. I don't necessarily know 823 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: if I want to feel that, like you are able 824 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: to open and close your relationship. You know why because 825 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,959 Speaker 1: as the person that's in the relationship, you're the priority. Yep. 826 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: If the person you're dating can't handle an open, closed situation, 827 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: they may not be for you. That's what you need. 828 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: And we're always feeling guilty about making someone feel stifled 829 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: or making them feel like we're giving them boundaries. I 830 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: know your ex talked about that having rules, where it's like, 831 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: how could you even have rules when you've done all 832 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: these things with Mandy. However, I mean. 833 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 2: Rules and boundaries, though, are allowed and need to be 834 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 2: enforced in open relationships. And again, I think I like 835 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 2: that what you said open close relationships are open relationships 836 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 2: are non ethically non monogaous relationships. I think that people 837 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 2: assume as soon as you join into the lifestyle, now 838 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 2: you have to keep up with all this. No, it 839 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,479 Speaker 2: needs to be a constant conversation with your partner. Hey, 840 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 2: let's take a break from this a little bit. You 841 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 2: were allowed to do this same the same way we 842 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: talk about dry January or like ways in which we 843 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 2: sometimes like recluse or take away drinking or drugs or partying. 844 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 2: That's the same when it comes to inviting other people 845 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 2: into the bedroom O. 846 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: Their energy is a lot same, a lot. And when 847 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: we were talking about a few weeks ago on the 848 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: episode of Christina where I was like other people on 849 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: days and shit like that. Bro, there's so many times 850 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: where I've been in settings recently and I'm like, I 851 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: just kinda want to be with you right now. I 852 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: just want to be with you right now, and like 853 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: I need to lead er or even maybe I need 854 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: to be alone. Yeah, you know, Like I think that 855 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: we need to focus more on ourselves while in relationships 856 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: instead of so much thinking well, we'll please my partner 857 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: as greezers, which she could. She sounds like she is 858 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: she does. It sounds like she's fighting it. She's like, 859 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna break up with me if I don't give 860 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: him this. But I really don't want to do it. 861 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 2: And I think that she just needs to maybe put 862 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 2: a time frame on it because she could change. But 863 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 2: in some time, if he's still pressuring. 864 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: Her, maybe this maybe not more time for him to say, hey, 865 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: I need to feel more comfortable, okay, because I don't 866 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: want anybody I don't like to feel more comfortable, because 867 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 1: he's already suggested, well, maybe you just need to play 868 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: with more women to feel more comfortable. 869 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 2: Like he's even pressuring her to be with you know 870 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 2: what I mean. So she's just not in that space 871 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 2: right now. So the conversation needs to be like I 872 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 2: would love to revisit this maybe in a couple months, 873 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 2: but for the moment, can we really just enjoy each other? 874 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: That's it. 875 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 2: He's really not looking to just enjoy you by yourself. 876 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 2: These other people. Maybe, Yeah, what did someone say? I 877 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 2: don't know if I've said it on this podcast, but 878 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 2: I remember crying to a friend about how this guy. 879 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: Said that I was too much or like, you know, 880 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: my mora told oh, and she said, oh, yeah, you 881 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: know what you need to say to him the next 882 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: time you're doing too much, find someone that does little. 883 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: I am too much. I do a lot for you. 884 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: I bring a lot to the table. Maybe you need 885 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: to find someone that is smaller. That means women need. 886 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 2: To be okay with just walking away from someone who 887 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 2: does not fit them, but also. 888 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: The power in being able to not be scared of 889 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: when you need things like you can't tell him this 890 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: and be like, oh this here, you're gonna break up 891 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: with me. You need to have your chest tied because 892 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: women are confident and know what they want and it 893 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: better really leave And if he really wants you, he 894 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: gonna see that you're putting your foot down and he 895 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: not gonna want to lose you. He gonna sit here 896 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: and Ben, it's not gonna be the ultimated. Now, what 897 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: I would tell you is if threesomes is the only 898 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: spicy sex you're having, that is a problem. Yeah. If 899 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: sex clubs is the only spicy sex, which you were 900 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: telling out the other there toys, we did a whole 901 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: but that's my point. Yeah, if the sex club is 902 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: the only thing you do that's spicy, that's a problem. 903 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: Anybody listening, like, you cannot have one dimension with your 904 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: kink shit right. For example, this is a true story. 905 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: I have a friend of mine that's very into masaculum, 906 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: Like she wants to fucking be hit clothes, fists and stuff. 907 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: And she told me that it's been a little bit 908 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 1: difficult for her because she's like, girl, I've wanted to 909 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 1: go to work, but like she can handle pain, like truly, 910 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: and she said she kind of had a little bit 911 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: of a shift recently where it was making her feel 912 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: a little shitty. She's been with her partner in a 913 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: long time and they lived together, but she's like, bro, 914 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: that's the type of sex we have when it's wild, 915 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: and now I don't even know what the fuck to do. Yeah, 916 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: and so she's like looking for new shit, and I 917 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: think that we can't have only one lane. So I 918 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: would definitely say trying introducing something new that you've never done. 919 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 2: Maybe he pease them, that's simple. This next letter is 920 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 2: from my listener. All right, what's good. I'm a truck driver, 921 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 2: so I had plenty of time to listen to all 922 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 2: of your episodes. I can't tell y'all how much I 923 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 2: appreciate the work. The podcast you built is fun, it's honest, 924 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 2: it's educational. 925 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: Thank you. 926 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 2: I've learned so much from y'all, not only in the 927 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 2: obvious sense it's a sex pod, but documenting your growth 928 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 2: is business women, especially in partnership, is so valuable to 929 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:19,919 Speaker 2: anyone trying to. 930 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: Make shit shake. One of my biggest regrets is not 931 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: getting on stage in San Francisco. Anyway. The reason I'm 932 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: writing is I'm talking to a high net worth individual. 933 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,959 Speaker 1: I'm not that, right, bitch. She has an important job 934 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,280 Speaker 1: that has. 935 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 2: Her flying to different parts of the world and a 936 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 2: personal business that deals in money I've never seen. 937 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: She's older and cool as hell. 938 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 2: In the nerdy way. She's spicy, white, Eastern European and 939 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 2: lives in London. I definitely have my insecurities, but she 940 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 2: started dropping the l box after four to five times 941 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,439 Speaker 2: meeting in person in like three years. I started saying 942 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 2: it back. I don't know if it's real or just 943 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 2: something to say, but I definitely like her. This is 944 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 2: getting so I was good to the point. Recently she 945 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 2: asked if I would meet her in Africa during one 946 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,399 Speaker 2: of her business trips. Wheezy, would you take your first 947 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 2: trip to the Motherland with a white mandy? Now that 948 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 2: you have money, would you pay the upfront costs for 949 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 2: a man to be floud for a flud oh to 950 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 2: be reimbursed? Y'all are fired to sign a nigga in 951 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 2: the scar. So he's asking if you would go to 952 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 2: Africa with a white person and asking me if I 953 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,959 Speaker 2: would front the money to pay for him to come, 954 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,919 Speaker 2: and he reimburses me later. 955 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, let me explain here. This is very interesting. 956 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: Okay oo, So Mandy's been Africa Africa a few times. 957 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 1: I've only been once just now, right, it's only to 958 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,800 Speaker 1: South Africa. However, I thought this was a woman writing 959 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,760 Speaker 1: about a lesbian relationship. Oh and you said signed a nigga. 960 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: At first, I was like, oh, you're a girl in 961 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: the car. You're a black girl going with a white 962 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: girl to Africa. Whatever you brought your friend. 963 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 2: This is a black man dating a white woman. Yes, 964 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 2: it's the temptation, the temptation. 965 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: I'll say this. I went to Africa with my friend 966 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: because he was on tour. And Mandy has talked about 967 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: going to Africa. Were her friends cause they're Lincoln And 968 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: that's the thing. He didn't say what part of Africa? 969 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: I don't think right, but I was gonna. I wanted 970 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: to just make this point. Going to Africa with an 971 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: itinerary is kind of cool because you're you're kind of like, oh, 972 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 1: all right, like I'm assuming she's got the hotel figured 973 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 1: out or whatever, like something about that. It's so far 974 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 1: that it was easy, Like my first time going to Tokyo, 975 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 1: Like I remember being like whoa, I don't even know 976 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 1: what the fuck I'm doing here? Like, why didn't I 977 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: make plans? I'm like googling on the plane. I do 978 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: think it's good when you're going to a big new 979 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: place to go with someone that kind of has a 980 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: bunch of shit to do that's already lined up. If 981 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: that's the case, I guess if the trip is free. 982 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,240 Speaker 2: I'll be honest. We're talking about so Africa is a continent. 983 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 2: We know, we don't need y'all hopping in the fucking thing. 984 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 2: Oh also me, South Africa with a white it's easier. 985 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 2: It's easier than like Ghana, Nigeria, Senegal, like these are 986 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 2: other places I've been. 987 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 1: You going with a white person at these places? That's 988 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: a good point. And she not going to build a 989 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: village for these niggas or something. What is she going 990 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: there for? I what I need to know what she 991 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: going for? Are you going to help the people? 992 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 2: Otherwise if you just going there as a colonizer or something, 993 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 2: South Africa might work out. What I can't say that 994 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 2: what that's what they be going over there for. It 995 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 2: makes them feel better. I'm just saying, what is the 996 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 2: reason that she's going You know the white guilt, you 997 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 998 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: So it depends because Ghana like just got pulled back. 999 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: Well I'm saying that too, because. 1000 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 2: Ghana Witch, I was the lightest person that I saw 1001 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 2: in Ghana, Like in Nigeria, there's a difference in I 1002 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 2: didn't know people you know that I've been in. 1003 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: So I was telling we were hanging out with just 1004 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 1: a lot of friends, right and this is like December 1005 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,240 Speaker 1: and Johannes Brag so just mixing match and talking. And 1006 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: I was saying to this black girl, like, bro, I've 1007 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: be seeing so many interracial culfors here a couple excuse me, 1008 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: and like in the States, me and my homegirls be 1009 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: shading them and shit, low key when we see like 1010 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: litt niggas with a white girl and it's just sorry, 1011 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: it's kind of something we do. It isn't man. But 1012 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 1: she said, Andy, we're still judging you too, but white 1013 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: girls nobody do it. We do that shit. I know not, 1014 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: but yeah, she said something I found so interesting. She said, 1015 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,879 Speaker 1: weazy apartheid just ended. Yeah, no, I learned about She said, 1016 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: a lot of these black men are just fucking these 1017 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: white girls because they're like you, God damn right on 1018 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,919 Speaker 1: fucking this white bitch. She's like, they have a really 1019 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: big power trip. She said. In the States, it's an 1020 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,399 Speaker 1: allegiance and an alliance to wealth, she said, Here they 1021 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: actually feel like they're a conquered They feel more like 1022 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 1: fuck you to white people when they date white people interest. 1023 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 1: She said, So the reasoning in the oppression with that 1024 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: black men had not saying black men, obviously we don't 1025 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: even till hello. But she's like, you know, it was 1026 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: something we saw in our lives, whereas it's a little 1027 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: older for you, and she's saying that it's a different thing. 1028 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: So I think you're right. That's a great point in 1029 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: South Africa, probably not anywhere else. I don't know. But 1030 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: if the trip is free, I would always want to. 1031 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,439 Speaker 1: But no, that's what it seems like too. He brought 1032 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: out being flewed out, like uh, now that you would 1033 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,919 Speaker 1: you pay the upfront costs and be reimbursed. So he's not, so, no, 1034 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hold you. 1035 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna If I'm gonna fly a nigga out, 1036 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 2: A part of me would be more turned off to 1037 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 2: feel like I got he gotta set up a payment 1038 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 2: plan to pay me. 1039 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: I mean he already seems like he knows that. No 1040 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: to me, like the reimbursement to me will not happen. 1041 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: My homewoy told me he does that because he's like, hey, 1042 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: these bitches we having miles and ship, ain't about to 1043 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: fucking type in yours tsa pre check. I'll send you 1044 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,439 Speaker 1: the money. How much is this plate? Yeah? No, no, no, no, 1045 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of He's like getting there and then getting 1046 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: there Like to me, I'm not I'm not flying a 1047 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 1: nigga out. I though, will tell somebody this one will right. 1048 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 2: But so what I'm saying is that's not so. He 1049 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 2: asked me this question. So I'm answered, I'm not telling 1050 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 2: the nigga to reimburse me. That's corny. So to me, 1051 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 2: I always ask a guy, especially now that I do 1052 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 2: have money. The hotel is covered, I might pay for 1053 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 2: a dinner while you're out with me. I'm gonna look 1054 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 2: out while you me, girl, I invite green Eyes to come. 1055 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 2: I'm like, we'll pull up to New York. You could 1056 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 2: stay with me. I'll cook, I'll feed you. If we 1057 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 2: go out, I'll cover it. But I'm not booking. I'm 1058 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 2: not paying for no nigga flight. 1059 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: Well one other thing I wanted to say actually was 1060 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. If you have the extra fund, then 1061 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: you want too. Fine, if the trip is free, I 1062 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: would definitely do it. But the other little craffe I 1063 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 1: I had was if you don't get that much time off, 1064 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 1: that's a big trip. Don't use your only big trip 1065 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 1: on someone that you don't know. How it doesn't seem 1066 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: like you don't even know your big first like her, 1067 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: but you don't love her. Because when I was working 1068 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 1: in nine to five say that PTO, I had to 1069 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: be very particular about my trips, and that was a 1070 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 1: lot of the shit I would say. I'd be like, 1071 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: I am about to waste three days, four days with 1072 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: this nigga when I could be with By the way, 1073 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: y'all gotta look up the trips or the trip tips 1074 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 1: now for PTO every year, that's the TikTok, and they'll 1075 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 1: let you know how to take the least amount of 1076 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: time off for the most amount of days based around 1077 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: the holidays that are happening. So like, oh, I go, yeah, 1078 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: take a half day here, or like more because it 1079 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 1: changes every day. 1080 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 2: Can yeah holidays where sometimes Fridays and Mondays are off. 1081 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 2: They'll say, use a Wednesday and use a Tuesday, so 1082 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:16,919 Speaker 2: you could have this many days off. 1083 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 1: So look that up. It's online. 1084 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 2: So this is gonna be our last one for today, 1085 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 2: and then we'll get to them get niggas after I 1086 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 2: edit it and revise it and shorten it. 1087 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 1: Because what the fuck, y'all? 1088 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 2: If you send in your whole mail to Horrible Decisions 1089 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 2: at gmail dot com, can we limit it to three paragraphs? 1090 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 2: Maybe when I say paragraphs, that's three to five sentences. Okay, 1091 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 2: we're taking it back to language. Yes, So the one 1092 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 2: with the boring boyfriend, your mail was long, but we'll 1093 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 2: get to it. Yeah, we just got to edit it 1094 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 2: a little bit, all right. This one comes from there 1095 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 2: asking for advice. Advice for a traumatized horny virgin, Dear 1096 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 2: Weezy and Mandy. First off, I want to let you 1097 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 2: know don't be mad that I discovered you guys my 1098 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 2: freshman year of high school, and I want to thank 1099 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 2: you guys. 1100 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 1: Oh lord, that's okay. I come from a household that 1101 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,839 Speaker 1: made sex. If ay, let us know you had sex 1102 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: before you listen to the podcast, I'll feel about she's 1103 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 1: a virgin still, Oh seems like I come from a 1104 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: household that made sex a very shameful thing, as there 1105 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: was a generational pattern of teen and young pregnancies and 1106 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 1: abusive partners, which led to an overarching idea that wanting 1107 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: a man was a bad thing. Oh, she's a smart girl. 1108 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 2: It got to the point where I felt guilty just 1109 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,399 Speaker 2: kissing my boyfriend at the time, but your podcast became 1110 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 2: a safe space for me to learn about and explore 1111 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 2: my sexuality. 1112 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: Now. 1113 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 2: I recently turned eighteen and graduated high school as a junior, 1114 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 2: and guess what, no babies. I also still a virgin, 1115 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 2: but have had multiple relationships where we've done everything up 1116 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 2: two sets. 1117 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 1: So our podcast doesn't make you bitch as fun I 1118 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: love it. We need to clip that, No, you have 1119 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 1: the virgin that listen. 1120 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 2: I love this year Since high school, however, I am 1121 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 2: now ready to explore that chapter in my life. But 1122 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 2: alas the men I seem to attract our assholes in 1123 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 2: every relationship, I've ended up feeling used as I'm very 1124 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 2: much a people pleaser and giver her and don't know 1125 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,800 Speaker 2: how to give up that part of myself without wondering 1126 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 2: if they only want me for my body. In a 1127 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 2: couple of episodes, you guys have talked about how some 1128 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 2: of the most successful relationships have started out with sex 1129 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 2: on the first night. But given my history with guys, 1130 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,479 Speaker 2: the fact that I can't even have sex and don't 1131 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 2: know how to have it, and the negativity built around it, 1132 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 2: I don't know how to let that part of myself go, 1133 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,919 Speaker 2: especially in early stages of a relationship. Any advice would 1134 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 2: be great. I know I'm young and have many people 1135 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 2: and have many people yet to meet that could change 1136 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 2: my mind, but that part of myself already feels closed 1137 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 2: off when I was just starting to feel ready to 1138 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 2: explore it. I don't want to feel completely shut down 1139 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,399 Speaker 2: from sex already and be stuck living by curiously through 1140 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,959 Speaker 2: the smut I read. Thank you for taking the time 1141 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 2: to read this. PSU also inspired me to start a 1142 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,879 Speaker 2: podcast of my own with my best friend. So glad 1143 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,439 Speaker 2: to see how far you've come and thank you, guys 1144 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 2: for the help you don't know you've given me already. 1145 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: She's not gonna she didn't name drop the bar she 1146 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: really want to answer. I think you have to get 1147 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:56,240 Speaker 1: away from the idea that penetration is this crazy, big 1148 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: experience and that your virginity is tied to the sacredness. 1149 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to downplay virginity, but the reason that 1150 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,720 Speaker 1: I am in this particular instance is because you said 1151 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,879 Speaker 1: you've done everything but with partners, and then you said 1152 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 1: they were all assholes. Girl doesn't know you saw some 1153 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 1: dick doesn't know what I would recommend to you. Well, 1154 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: oral sex is sex. So maybe she act said to dick, 1155 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: she said everything up to sex, and oral sex is sex. 1156 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: We talked about it. I mean, but if kissing has 1157 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: made her feel guilty a lot of these things, so 1158 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: you give them that part of hand. So it's like, 1159 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 1: maybe you are putting way too much pressure on sex itself. 1160 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: I have a celibate friend is me know Breanda, and 1161 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 1: she doesn't do any of that right, kissing is it. 1162 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: So that's why I can say that a lot of 1163 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 1: the this is like, you know, whether you're getting naked 1164 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 1: things like that. I know she is having trouble dating 1165 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 1: or finding someone or talking to someone about it because 1166 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: there's a lot of parameters on her celibacy. For you, 1167 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,360 Speaker 1: I think what you need to have happened to you 1168 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,800 Speaker 1: is have sex with someone that makes you feel comfortable 1169 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:58,360 Speaker 1: and safe, even if you never see them again. I think, okay, 1170 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 1: letting that person know your version. I know there's some 1171 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 1: maybe scenarios where people just we've had people in the 1172 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: thirties or forties even right into us about their virginity. 1173 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm like this, just get over it. Right with you, 1174 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: particularly being that you're younger and you've got someone it 1175 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: seems to be a little bit of religious trauma and 1176 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,839 Speaker 1: shit like that. I think you need to be very 1177 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 1: clear that you experience your first time and that you 1178 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,839 Speaker 1: want to be respected during that time. Like you don't 1179 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: want someone to maybe dash you away, you know what 1180 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you want them to stay with you 1181 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: maybe that night, like after care and kink is going 1182 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: to be necessary, like after care, after you have set 1183 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: things that are involved with So yeah, I think once 1184 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 1: you find someone comfortable with, maybe a friend that you've 1185 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 1: flirt with, but it can't be this big old thing 1186 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: in your head because the things that you've already done 1187 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 1: are kind of already a big deal. I think like 1188 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,919 Speaker 1: you still had some form of it. So I would 1189 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: just make sure that the person you sleep with you 1190 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 1: said they've been assholes. Maybe you also have to have 1191 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 1: less expectations. I know, Beyonder particularly wants a relationship or 1192 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 1: marriag right, If that's not what you're looking for, be 1193 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 1: clear that you just want a good person or someone 1194 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,839 Speaker 1: that makes you feel comfortable and safe. So yeah, because 1195 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: if you want a relationship until you have sex, that 1196 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 1: motherfucker may disappoint you even then. So I think making 1197 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 1: sure that the experience itself is safe and comfortable is 1198 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 1: more important than the attachment to that person. To you, 1199 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 1: as someone that's been sexually assaulted and someone that's had 1200 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 1: men not necessarily treat them to nicis, I've always enjoyed 1201 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: the experiences where men are respectful versus I've had this 1202 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: title or this rapport. Yeah, I can meet a nigga 1203 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 1: in the first night. That'll do me right. You know, 1204 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: like you've got to make sure that you're getting that vibe. 1205 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 2: I mean, to me, this goes into something that wasn't 1206 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 2: I guess my mind wasn't ready for it. To me, 1207 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 2: you're traumatized. You need to go to therapy and work 1208 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 2: through that and get over it. If kissing still makes 1209 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 2: you uncomfortable, I don't think just fucking a guy who 1210 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 2: might show up is nice is gonna be. 1211 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,440 Speaker 1: They think she used to feel guilty from kissing. But 1212 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 1: I agree her feel uncomfortable. 1213 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what she just said so to me, like, 1214 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 2: and it didn't say that even the things that she 1215 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,479 Speaker 2: went up to sex made her feel away. 1216 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: She didn't share those details. 1217 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that we could ask if 1218 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,759 Speaker 2: you know, she called in like, well did those other 1219 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 2: things make you feel uncomfortable? To know that you felt 1220 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:21,319 Speaker 2: uncomfortable with kissing. I think there's an exploration for you 1221 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:27,359 Speaker 2: to have in in therapy first, but also maybe it's 1222 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,360 Speaker 2: meant I would actually say, Oh my. 1223 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 1: God, I was just gonna say you need to be 1224 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: good friends. No, that's not what I was gonna say, 1225 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 1: Oh a decent man. No, my thing was gonna be 1226 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,840 Speaker 1: maybe women will make you feel safe. Maybe you should 1227 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,879 Speaker 1: maybe see sexually if exploring with a woman might be 1228 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,800 Speaker 1: what what will make you feel comfortable? Have you kissed 1229 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 1: a woman before and did that make you uncomfortable? Have 1230 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,359 Speaker 1: you been able to feel safe with with women? Like? 1231 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,240 Speaker 2: Maybe you're trying to force yourself knowing again the traumatic experience. 1232 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 2: If it's a religious thing, maybe you're forcing yourself to 1233 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 2: be straight. 1234 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,279 Speaker 1: Now you just don't Like we said, we ain't take 1235 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 1: a ridge. I don't know people would know if they haven't. 1236 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 1: Maybe she would have even brought up if she had 1237 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: a attraction. 1238 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 2: But she's also young and grew up in no I 1239 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 2: think that a lot of those things. If you grow 1240 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 2: up in church, you're taught that that's not something you 1241 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 2: should do. So maybe right now she's convincing herself losing 1242 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 2: my virginity to men to know that they're all assholes 1243 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,879 Speaker 2: and she hasn't felt safe and no one has made 1244 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 2: her feel wanted or respected, and kissing a nigga made 1245 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 2: her uncomfortable. 1246 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,879 Speaker 1: Bitch, maybe you don't like me if you if dating 1247 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,800 Speaker 1: women doesn't worry. Here's my final thing. The reason I 1248 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,760 Speaker 1: said good men, friends is because you're in an age. 1249 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 1: Mind you, Mandy and our ten years your senior. Right, 1250 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 1: those men in college and that age, they're really bad. Yes, 1251 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 1: I know that you've been listening to this podcast for 1252 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 1: a long time, so you know it doesn't get better, 1253 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:52,879 Speaker 1: but it definitely gets better than that. You a better 1254 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 1: figure this shit out now, like being assholes. I actually 1255 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,720 Speaker 1: talked about this with my boy Andrea Power recently. Andre's 1256 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: almost forty, and I was like, bro, I haven't really 1257 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,279 Speaker 1: dated like a shitty, Like I've been dating guys that 1258 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, they'll get my girls all bab with shitty. No, no, no, 1259 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like the treatment like when you're on on 1260 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 1: the dates and like, I haven't really dated a guy 1261 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 1: who's an asshole. Yeah, And he was like, I wonder 1262 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 1: if it's age or maybe it's where you meet them. 1263 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 1: Like he's like, because yeah, he's like, you know, girls 1264 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 1: maybe when I was younger told me like, oh my god, 1265 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 1: you're so nice. He was like, but now, like they 1266 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 1: just expect a good nigga, right, And so I said, 1267 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 1: they don't because when a nigga's too nice, then they laying, 1268 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 1: then they corny, like so many women. Actually what Like, 1269 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 1: I think you need an example of some good men friends. 1270 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: I think platonic relationships could actually be a little bit 1271 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 1: safer for you. And I think maybe even a male 1272 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 1: friendship could guide you with some of this, because sometimes 1273 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 1: the problem with talking to other women is that they're 1274 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 1: a sounding board for like everything going wrong with men. 1275 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 1: We do that, especially when we're in a bad fucking 1276 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 1: how many episodes that we were like, nigga, that shit, 1277 00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 1: maybe all of them, but like that this whole thing 1278 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: is contradiction. I actually think you need good male friends 1279 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 1: for real. That has really helpful in my heel have 1280 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 1: sex because if your only relationships with men are romantic ones, 1281 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 1: you all think they're assholes. You need to start looking 1282 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 1: at men in a different way. Seeing nice friends. Yeah, 1283 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: and I think that could help. 1284 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 2: I did that to one of my friends, uh on 1285 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 2: New Year's I literally hit him up and was just like, 1286 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 2: thank you for being a friend and seeing me, and 1287 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 2: like when I enter room, when I'm around you, and 1288 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 2: he's megastar, like dope. When I sit at the table, 1289 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 2: he like boasts about all the things that I do, 1290 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 2: and I just know he like values me as a 1291 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 2: person and in this space that I'm at now where 1292 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 2: romantically I don't know what I'm doing, I literally just 1293 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 2: hit him like, thank you, thank you for knowing that 1294 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 2: I'm deserving of receiving that from a male like I 1295 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 2: literally that's what I wrote him. 1296 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 1: I was high on shrooms, but but yes, but I 1297 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 1: mean the shrooms got you to like that part of 1298 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 1: your emotionalness, right, And I think that like that shit 1299 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 1: is valuable. I really appreciate good male platonic friendships relationships. 1300 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 1: I think we all need one. I recently had Alex's 1301 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 1: girl tell me that she was so grateful that he 1302 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 1: had me in his life, because she's like, oh my god, 1303 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 1: there's so many times where we've run in a little argument. 1304 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 1: I thought to myself, like, oh, I know, Wes, he 1305 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 1: ain't gonna agree with this, and he's probably gonna call 1306 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 1: her for you know. She's like, I think it's really 1307 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,439 Speaker 1: good that men have a decent homegirl in their life. Yeah, 1308 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: and I think there's something to that. So many says 1309 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,960 Speaker 1: he's a pussy I said, did I say, equs did 1310 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,200 Speaker 1: not hold on? 1311 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 2: I ain't say going eat what was down and stay 1312 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 2: kiss a woman and see if you feel uncomfortable, and 1313 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 2: if you don't, maybe that's the direction you might need 1314 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 2: to go. Just kiddy, I pushing that bitch into lesbianism. Now, 1315 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 2: calm down. Well, and so we've introduced herself all right. 1316 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 1: We totally to find us in London. But we also 1317 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 1: have had so many new and fun changes patreons. 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