WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Turnovers In Bunches? 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:08.000 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:19.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.239 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:35.800 Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Broudis, Rob Phillips, 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:40.480 and Phil Jones. And it is a good Wednesday here 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:45.560 at the Star in Frisco inside the SWBC Mortgage studios. 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.800 This is Talking Cowboys with a little revised schedule after 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:53.720 the Monday night game as the Cowboys start preparations for 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:58.240 the Minnesota Vikings and another prime time appearance this week 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:02.520 on Sunday Night Football. All and things get really interesting 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.600 here in the month of November. Bill Jones with Mickey 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:09.000 Spagnola and Rob Phillips. Brian brought us out today and 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.120 on the practice field. There is nothing set up today, 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.200 Mickey Spagnola, and you think they're going inside. I think 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.000 maybe they're going inside. You know, I get a later practice, 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:23.200 so maybe they plenty of time. You still have time 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:26.080 to set things up, although we do have the threat 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:30.120 of some rain in the forecast, so taking it inside anyway. 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.520 It's kind of drizzly, hasn't it. It has we're not 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:36.160 quite back on a normal excuse me schedule because it's 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:38.880 like a Wednesday that's kind of feeling like a Tuesday. 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.639 This is like a catchup day to day. They're catching 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:45.679 up and then tomorrow they'll be back on schedule for 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:47.240 the rest of the week. And I would think it's 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.280 a lighter practice today after getting back so late on 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:54.440 Monday morning or I guess early on Monday morning, Tuesday, 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:58.360 Tuesday morning in my day. Yeah, say it's it's confusing, right, 0:01:58.440 --> 0:01:59.840 it is? Where you get it? What time did y'all 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:02.200 get in yesterday? Five thirty in the morning. I know 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.480 you said you got to bed it. That's when my pet, 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:06.360 my dad get the pillow it. I got a good 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.960 ninety minutes asleep. It was wonderful. Yeah, cat nap if 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:14.160 you will, but you gotta you're well rested for today, right, yes, yes, 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:16.560 so you would be able to hit the practice field 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.919 right now. Absolutely. Up. Let's go. When I did I 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.080 did my fan report, I guess I sounded energetic this morning, 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.480 and they go, oh, you sound energetic. I said, well, yeah, 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:28.560 I got ten hours sleep and they said, oh, ten 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.639 hour did you do that? I said, I passed out 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:32.720 at nine o'clock. They go, what'd you take? I said, 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.520 three hours sleep the night before or the morning before. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.560 I can't remember last time I got ten hours sleep 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:43.880 one stretch, all right, I don't think it was consistent 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.519 were we turned the page towards the Minnesota Ikens. But 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:49.880 I would like to say one thing about the Giants game, 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:54.280 because there was sort of a narrative yesterday that this team, 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:58.400 and it's been obvious off season, basically the slow starts 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.280 the team has got off to. But when you turn 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:05.720 the football over, it's gonna appear that you're not ready 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:07.799 to play or whatever. When you turn the ball over 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.200 on the first play of the game, second drive of 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.800 the game, you miss a field goal, that's like a turnover. 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:14.560 You're giving the ball back to the team at the 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.040 other team at the forty four yard line. And then 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.520 the fourth drive of the game, you fumble the football away. 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:21.919 You're gonna have a slow start when that happens. It's 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.959 about execution, it's not about being ready to play a 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:29.679 football game. Yeah, you know, I guess it is a 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.280 slow start in terms of the scoreboard, and it's becoming 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.600 a trend, especially on the road for this team. But 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:36.560 you're right. I mean, you look at the way these 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.240 drives ended for them. Okay, you throw a pick on 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:40.960 the first play of the game. When's the last time 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.280 that happened in a Cowboys football game. But the defense 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:45.640 was ready to play, they stopped them. They were ready, 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.520 they were ready to play. And by the way, that's 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.920 a big blitz by Jeff Heath on that first drive 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.360 to force a field goal and get off the field. 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.280 But then the next five drives in the second in 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.680 the first half, you're all in Giants territory. They're they're 0:03:57.720 --> 0:03:59.800 moving the football. And when you talk to guys after 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:03.400 the game, Mick, it's yes, they say we got to 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.720 clean things up. But I don't think they're discouraged by it, 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:09.240 because I feel they feel like they can pretty much 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.440 do what they want to do offensively to get in 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.800 position to score. It's just a matter of finishing drives up. 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.400 You know. It's like they're moving the ball. They're moving 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.000 the ball, they just don't take care of it well. 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.920 And I noticed when I was looking, and I was 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.679 trying to find it real quick at the score. By quarters, 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.840 the only quarter the Cowboys have been outscored is the 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:34.560 first quarter and I think it was something like I 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:38.360 got it here forty one to thirty seven. But every 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:42.159 other quarter they've outscored the opponent. But the Bill's point, 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.040 some of that's a product of the defense, because I 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.040 think the Philly game was the first time they went 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.320 down the field and scored a touchdown in the opening drive. 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.280 They haven't. They haven't gotten off the get even in 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.760 the three game winning streak to start the year. They 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:56.720 weren't coming out like you know, gang bus No. That 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.240 was my point and not the defense. It was the 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:03.080 offense didn't score points. They were screwing up. And check 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.080 this out. The other thing I noticed they've they've had 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.040 They've got eleven giveaways. Eight of them are in the 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:16.080 first half. Eight poor Randall Cobb. Yeah, that's got to 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.880 be a record, right, that's the fourth I think touchdown 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:23.360 called back a penalty? Yeah, how to fun does that happen? 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:28.920 And it's not his penalty? Right? But yeah, and you 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:30.680 go back to the Green Bay game. I mean, the 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.680 reason they fell behind so much against the Packers in 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:35.480 the first half of that game, if you break it 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.120 all down, I mean, if you if you looked at 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.280 one thing, it's the turnovers Okay, you turn the football over, 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:44.000 and there's not that much difference even between a two 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:47.599 and seven Giants team and a now five and three 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.520 Cowboys team. If you're gonna turn it over three of 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.440 your first four possessions, you're in for a dogfight all 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:54.560 the way to the end of the game. Yeah, and 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.840 you encourage a team like the Giants, it's like, oh, well, yeah, 0:05:58.040 --> 0:05:59.919 or the Jets, I mean, the Jett's saying in here. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.680 When you go for it on fourth in the yard 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:04.400 and a half or whatever it was at the seven 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.479 yard line and you don't make it, it's like a turnover. Okay, 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.200 and defense in that case gave up a ninety three 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:12.599 yard touchdown and you don't have to do that either. 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.960 So anyway, you know, and the other part of it 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.480 is when halfway through the season, so it's easy to 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:24.160 do the math. Okay. Dak Prescott has led this Cowboys 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.480 offense number one offense in the league in terms of 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.240 total yards. He's got the number one quarterback rating in 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.160 the league at the halfway point. He's on a pace 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:36.360 for a career high thirty touchdown passes. Most significantly, this 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:40.360 team is on a pace to have twenty sacks is 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.360 all only Dak has only been sacked ten times down 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:46.159 from what was it last year, fifty six fifty six 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.000 last year? How about that? And almost it was all 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:52.560 like close to thirty or something in the last few 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.200 games down the stretch of twenty seventeen as well. I mean, 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.560 he wasn't protected as well as he could have been 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.520 the last year and a half. And yeah, they've done 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.280 a much better job. Speaks to Travis Frederick, speaks to 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:07.480 Connor Williams playing better. I think watch him, he's playing better. 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.640 The shoots. You know what. Else, it speaks to wide 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:14.040 receivers getting open. He doesn't have to hold the ball 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:18.400 as long as he's been holding it. Three guys getting 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:23.280 open and that certainly helps out. And I think it 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:27.760 speaks to Dak's development too, you know, and being able 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:31.640 to read defenses and go through his progressions and so 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:35.400 forth and find an open guy. So um. So it's 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.000 very but it also here's the other thing it speaks 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.400 to is the Cowboys schedule in the first half of 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.000 the season, and that's where I think it really gets 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:47.560 interesting now here in November, because you can't say when 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.960 you're playing the Minnesota Vikings on Sunday night. You can't say, well, 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.480 it's just the Giants, or it's or they you know, 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:57.600 it's just the Redskins, it's the Dolphins, whatever. Now you're 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:01.160 getting into the meat of your schedule against teams that 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.640 have visions of playing in January. But they showed themselves 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:09.280 what they can do when they tore apart Philadelphia. No 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.520 one's gonna sit here and say, well, it's just the Eagles, 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.040 right right. You know that a lot of people were 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:18.320 picking them to win the division. So that shows you 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.080 how good this team can be if they're not turning 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:25.040 the football over, if they're not beating themselves. I loved 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.240 what Dak said after the game. He said, we are 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:33.160 our biggest rivals, meaning we keep beating ourselves so much. 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.679 And that's why I thought the win over the Giants 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:40.720 was somewhat impressive because they overcame themselves along with the Giants, 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.760 but that Philly game was it wasn't just the offense. 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.520 That was a complete victory, the first one we've probably 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.920 seen all year. And Jason Garrett spoke to it yesterday 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:56.280 about defensively, we can be an elite defense if we 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.360 turn the ball over. Defensively, and they did that against Philly, 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:00.840 and they did that a couple of times, where they 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.200 have three this past week. But what they were able 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.480 to do against Philly and those short drives really make 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.760 a difference. I mean you look defensively what they've done. 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.199 They're only given up twenty eight percent conversions on third down, 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.319 second in the league. I mean that that is the 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.480 mark of a very good defense if they can continue 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.600 doing what they're doing turning the ball over. And by 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.319 the way, Xavier Woods is your NFC Defensive Player of 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:27.440 the Week. Now all of a sudden, your offense isn't 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:31.360 having to go sixty seventy eighty yards every time. Well 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:36.400 think about this. So over the first how many games 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:40.520 they played. The first six games, they had five takeaways. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:44.360 Over the last two games, they've had eight takeaways. You 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:49.160 think that helps, Yeah, absolutely, greater margin for error offensively, 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:54.280 I mean in shields. I mean both of of Xavier 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:58.520 Woods takeaways or the interception then the force fumble led 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.960 to field goals. So that was like a cheap six 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:05.800 points right there. And by the way, it's amazing that 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.960 you can have an NFC Defensive Player of the Week 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:13.240 that is yours. Free safety for less than fourteen million 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:18.560 dollars a year. Uh, don't don't go there, mackey, don't. 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:23.040 I tweeted the I tweeted that he was the NFC 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.679 Defensive Player of the Week. I just retweeted it, and 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:31.280 I said, Jamal who And I got pushed back that 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.600 y'all should know better than that. He wouldn't Jamal Adams 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.920 wouldn't be replacing it. Xavier woulds he'd be replacing Jeff 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.840 heat No. I was, I was referring to Earl Thomas. Well, 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:45.040 but but but what I'm talking about. I know Jamal 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.760 Adams if he was here eventually, he would be that 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.400 fourteen million dollars a year's safety. Yeah. And and unless 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:54.680 he's picking a ball off playing sile safety high yeah, 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.120 whether whether he's playing in the box or playing free, 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.719 that would be the investment. And that was the point 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.400 of my tweet was Okay, yeah, Xavier Woods can do 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.520 the job. And because like the Amari Cooper trade, you're 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.720 trading for a guy, you're extending him, and you're gonna 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:12.000 pay him eventually at top dollar. You're not going to 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:13.640 make that deal if he's not going to get paid, 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.439 you know, high, high level money at some point. By 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.280 the way, Nick looked this up. The last time a 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.080 Cowboy safety won this award? When was the last time? 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:28.520 Not Darren Woodson, it was Roy Williams George Teague in 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.280 nineteen ninety six. I mean that shows you. You know, 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.760 they've had good safeties here over the years, but they 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.760 since Woody, they have not had, you know, a big 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.959 time playmaker guy at safety and an Xavier. We saw 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.920 it in training camp and these last two games he's 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.120 been really productive for him in that regard. It's a 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:52.880 pretty subjective decision by the NFL. Who wins those things too, 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:56.839 by the way, So you're minimizing it, No, No, because 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.400 Rob's talking about it, so let's minimize. No, that's not 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.559 what us say. You didn't even disagreement. You definitely let 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.400 me finish. What's wrong with I mean, I don't know. 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.559 How do you know? How do you know Woody didn't 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.200 have a similar game like that and never won it. Well, 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.560 here's the thing, Yes, I checked since Woody. I said 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.200 Woody was a big time player, but he hadn't won 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.800 it since ninety six and he played through two thousand 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.080 and two. Pro Bowls and Super Bowls are probably more 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.760 important weekly NFL awards, I get it. The best thing 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:28.280 is a skillful stat listening is a skill, yeah, on 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.679 any of those awards, though it's part of it is 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:35.439 um it's luck because okay, it just so happens that 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.080 let's say somebody had three picks in a game, okay, 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.599 or had four sacks, Well they're going to get the 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:43.640 NFC Defensive Player of the Week this way. It's so 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.960 it's based also on what else happened around the league. 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:50.360 So you can have a two interception game, but if 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.280 someone if if back in the day stray Ann went 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:57.240 off and you know, set the NFL record um with 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.440 his what how many sacks did he have when gave 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.600 him the SEC two or something, he gets it that week. 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:09.439 So but but that's great for Xavier Woods. And you 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:13.440 know that's one thing going forward where and we've seen 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.120 it now in the last couple of weeks, the defensive 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.120 players turning into playmakers and that's big. And I know 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.439 y'all talked about Michael Bennett yesterday, but I think that 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:23.959 that is a huge can be a huge factor on 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.679 this defense going forward. Were you surprised at how many 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.560 snaps he wasn't I wasn't surprised how many snaps because 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.439 I knew that there was such a need for the 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.920 Cowboys to do that, and I assumed he's in shape, 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.680 so play him, you know. And I knew I figured 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:43.079 Marinelli probably loved his whole demeanor, you know, getting after 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.800 the quarterback. But but how about the need that the 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:49.439 Cowboys had with someone who can push the pocket in 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.600 the in the middle. But he was also coming off 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.720 the edge too, and that you know, and I think, Mickey, 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.760 you mentioned it yesterday. He's a better Tyrone Crawford as 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.800 far as pressure in the quarterback tank, a little bit 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:02.920 of a break, you know, and keeps him fresher throughout 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:04.920 the course of a game. Yeah, because they didn't have 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:12.040 to overuse tank. I think his snaps were at forty 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:15.920 five and Bennett had forty three playing two different positions, 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.600 So yeah, had helped out. 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After the event festivities, the Star 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.080 will be hosting the top two Madden players as they 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:22.560 face off in the EA Sports Madden NFL twenty Club 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:27.840 Championship presented by Spier. Admission and parking are free. That's 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:31.639 coming up on Saturday. Tostito's Championship Plaza will be a 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.359 big weekend and a salute to service throughout the week 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.720 end the weekend as the Cowboys play the Minnesota Vikings 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:42.479 on Sunday nights. Is that why that big tent's being Oh, 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:46.600 is there? I haven't seen the plaza Probably is, probably so, Yeah, yeah, 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:48.720 I thought they were going to play that game outdoors, 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.800 you know, like using the big screen. Yeah, yeah, well 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.720 they could still use they could. That's right, just protecting 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:57.840 and it's supposed to be well. I think by the 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:01.560 weekend it's it's supposed to be rainy today and tomorrow, 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:03.880 and then by the weekend it's supposed to be beautiful, 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.840 very good. It's gonna be a great football weekend with 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:10.840 those Purple People leaders coming to town. And they're playing 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:12.840 pretty well overall this year. Yeah, four out of the 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:16.720 last five they've won they lost at Kansas City twenty six, 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.680 twenty three. Cousins has turned his season around the last 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.159 few weeks. It helps when you have also have the 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:28.000 league's leading rusher too, Dalvin Cook. Yes, we talked to 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.119 him this morning, by the way, did yeah, he had 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.439 a conference? Did he Okay? He finally loosened up at 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:36.320 the end. They're at the beginning. He's been pretty tight 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:40.240 here a lot of losers. Yeah, he's always kind of 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.880 been like that, right, Yeah, we loosened him up talking 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.399 about Sea. Oh yeah. And then a little bit on 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:52.000 his time here too. As he pointed it out, he goes, gosh, 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.000 that's like twenty years ago, with not quite twenty years 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:56.840 What was the question he was asked about when Jason 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:59.560 was a quarterback here and just Todd asked him, Yeah, 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:01.800 it's like, what do you remember when Jason was like 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.560 the scout team quarterback having to go against your guys 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:09.040 and he was He didn't bite on it. He said, no, 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.720 I don't know if I remember any stories. But then 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:15.240 he talked later about Jason being a head coach and um, 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.879 you know, their their careers. I mean, Jason's done it 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:21.560 longer than Mike as a head coach, but their career 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:26.400 is kind of similar, from being a coordinator to going 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.639 on to be a head coach. I think Mike's done it, 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.600 what six years, seven years. It's been there since twenty fourteen, 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:35.479 so this is his year. It seems like he's been 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.840 there longer than that. No, No, because he had been 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:41.920 the defensive quarterordinator remember at Cincinnati for sure, quite a 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.520 few times after well, he was he was a defensive 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:49.560 coordinat defensive coordinator with the Bengals from eight through thirteen, 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.280 so he actually with since twenty fourteen, he's been with 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:57.199 the Vikings and so um the Falcons. He was one 0:19:57.280 --> 0:19:59.880 year in oh seven and that was of course after 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:03.480 being with the Cowboys under Parcels finished up there, and 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.159 so he was the defensive coordinate in Atlanta in oh 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:10.320 seven when Jason became the offensive coordinator here with the Cowboys. 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:13.840 So there their mirrors their coaching careers there. And that 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:18.920 happened because Bill Parcels was dragging his feet if he 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:20.920 was going to come back or not, and he got 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:24.280 offered that job and he couldn't afford to say, wait, 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.040 I'm going to stay here. And then they change head 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:29.160 coaches and you never know what the new head coach 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:32.840 was going to do, so he goes to Atlanta with 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:38.960 the former head coach at Arkansas, Pato Patriot. I remember 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:44.080 Patrino quit like three quarters of the way through the season, 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.080 I think it was, and Zim the next year when 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.399 they had to play Atlanta when he was in Cincinnati, 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:53.720 he just went off on you remember. But it was 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:57.159 twenty five years ago when Mike Zimmer was hired on 0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:59.919 the defensive staff here at the Cowboys in nineteen ninety four. 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.960 Really a remarkable career because I mean, how many how 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:08.000 many guys stay on a staff through four different head 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:11.600 coaching ten years in one franchise, you know, I mean 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:13.960 how common is that? And he became I think he 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:19.239 became the DC what two thousand under Campo and then 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:23.720 then he Parcels comes in and he changes you know, midstream, 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:26.040 goes to a three four and they have success there 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:29.680 at Getting de Marcus Ware obviously helps um. But yeah, 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:31.640 I feel like when when he got the job in Minnesota, 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:33.000 a lot of people thought it was a long time 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:35.399 coming because he's just a highly respected guy. And I 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:38.360 looked it up. I think every year, but his first 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.320 year there, they've been a top five to top ten defense, 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:43.639 including this year. They've done a really nice job. They 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:47.879 just they're little uncharacteristic. Last week against Kansas City kind 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:51.119 of like the Jets game, ninety one yard touchdown run allowed. 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:53.280 I think I looked at as somebody said it wrote 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.679 it was the longest touchdown run a Zemmer defense has 0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:57.880 ever given up. You know. But other than that, they've 0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:00.520 been they've been solid this year, you know. Speaking of 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:04.719 how many years ago I first met Mike Zimmer forty 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:08.840 one years ago at Missouri in nineteen seven, nineteen seventy, 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:15.040 ninety years ago. Okay, he was a graduate assistant. We 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:17.320 didn't know that. We were both trying to make our 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:21.560 way in our respective businesses back then. And so here 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:23.600 we are. Where were you meet up again? I was 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:26.480 working at the Columbia Tribute in Missouri football, and he 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:30.959 was a graduate assistant. Um. He was a quarterback in college. 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:34.200 He got hurt and and that kind of ended his 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:38.320