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Speaker 1: He is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, and

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Speaker 2: it is a beautiful Friday here a little at Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers of course playing the Dallas Cowboys Sunday Night football.

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Speaker 2: Although I guess are my host is the co host here,

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. There is rain now in the forecast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you thought there might be yesterday, and.

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Speaker 2: Now everybody's saying rain Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't bother me, I mean from a Steeler perspective.

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Speaker 3: But over the team that runs the football better, I

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Speaker 3: would think the more physical team, the bigger personnel, the

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Speaker 3: run first, run stuffing type team. I don't know Dak's

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Speaker 3: history in the rain. He doesn't play that many rough games.

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Speaker 3: I mean he does in the East. I guess in

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Speaker 3: the division, but I don't know. It's just the rain

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Speaker 3: here right now. Up one for us and save with fields.

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Speaker 3: But either one I'm sure will be handle it fine,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I don't think either one is

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Speaker 3: going to be a liability in the rain.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. But again, I think the

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Speaker 2: team that runs the football better has an advantage in

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Speaker 2: the rain and the team that doesn't want to throw

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Speaker 2: the or that wants to throw the football more, that

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Speaker 2: doesn't bode well for them. Although the new gloves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean, come on, these guys have

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Speaker 3: played in rainbow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, lots of field's not super sloppy and hurts like

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Speaker 3: TJ's get off or things like that. But I doubt

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Speaker 2: I imagine you'll keep it covered up as much as

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Speaker 2: they can. But you know, you look at this game.

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Speaker 2: The crazy thing to me about the Steelers Cowboys match

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Speaker 2: up in primetime is it Dallas has Since nineteen seventy,

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Speaker 2: Dallas has played the most primetime games in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers are second, right, I mean, these are national brands, right.

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Speaker 2: This will only be the second time in their history

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Speaker 2: that they've played in a in a night game. That's

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Speaker 2: crazy in either of a primetime game. The first one

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Speaker 2: was in nineteen sixty, so that doesn't even count.

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Speaker 3: They weren't even like we cared about it that it

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Speaker 3: was the.

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Speaker 2: First game in Cowboys history and it was a night

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Speaker 2: game against the Steelers. The other one was in nineteen

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Speaker 2: forty or nineteen eighty two more than forty years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nuts. I mean, you would think, what's really nuts?

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty two is forty years ago?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I heard some crazy stat about or something. If

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Speaker 3: we did film back to the future now and we

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Speaker 3: went back, I think you and I would be in

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Speaker 3: college or something like. It wasn't that long ago. It wasn't,

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Speaker 3: and we're not all flying around on hovercraft like we

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Speaker 3: thought we were going to. But anyway, you would think,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know, they only match up once every

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Speaker 3: four years, you know what I mean, So that takes

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Speaker 3: the probability out of it, but you would also think

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Speaker 3: most years they probably averaged three or four primetime games

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Speaker 3: per team. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing that happens though, is that the networks

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Speaker 2: could always protect games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So if it's a game in Pittsburgh, Fox or

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Speaker 2: whoever has the NFC games at that point, he is

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Speaker 2: going to protect the Steelers Cowboy game in the fourth

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Speaker 2: you know, probably the four thirty slot as the national

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Speaker 2: Game of the week. Same thing for CBS, which has

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Speaker 2: because we've gotten so many different networks involved with with

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Speaker 2: broadcasting games, the league isn't allowing them to protect as

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Speaker 2: many games as they used to.

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Speaker 3: I got you. Okay, So how did this one sneak through? That?

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Speaker 2: That's how I that's how it snuck through. And they've

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Speaker 2: also this year I've had already seen some people ask them, well,

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Speaker 3: Much anymore anymore. That never happened before. Okay, so interesting,

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Speaker 2: Honestly, if those rules because of the networks and the

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Speaker 2: and that's loosened that kind of stuff up, great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I think that's wonderful, right right, everyone's gonna

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Speaker 2: But this is this makes this one a stand the

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Speaker 3: Right up there. I mean I would say Bill's Texans

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Speaker 2: But there'll be more eyeballs on this one. Oh yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like this might break some records I would.

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Speaker 3: Think, I mean international records and things like that too.

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Speaker 3: You know, people that don't usually tune in probably will,

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Speaker 2: Cool environment, a lot of eyeballs on it. I'll be

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Speaker 2: interested to see. Talk to Isaac saam Malu today and

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Speaker 2: he expects to play, expects to play on Sunday pending,

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Speaker 2: he said, I gotta wait and see what my coach,

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlins said. But he was asked because of course

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Speaker 2: he played for the Eagles before.

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Speaker 3: He said.

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Speaker 2: Look, you know, he was asked, you played a lot

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Speaker 2: of games against these guys, you know, is there a

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Speaker 2: little extra juice there for you guys? No? And then

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Speaker 2: somebody followed up with, you know, their fans have traveled

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Speaker 2: pretty well, goes Yeah, but I don't know how many

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Speaker 2: Cowboys fans will be at our field. Yeah, yeah, now

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Speaker 2: I've seen we've seen something. But you know, for example,

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Speaker 2: in the opener, there were more forty nine Ers fans

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Speaker 3: What do you do get on it? Right?

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Speaker 2: But a night game against the Cowboys, I would think

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Speaker 2: Steeler fans aren't selling their tickets.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't think so. I mean, I'm sure you get

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Speaker 2: Oh the prices I looked earlier in the week and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure the highest of the week, maybe one

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Speaker 3: of the highest games of the year. Yeah, and that

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm not blaming any school night. They're your tickets.

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Speaker 3: You do whatever you want for right right, I mean

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Speaker 3: it might pay for you could big chunk of the rest.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you try to sell them the Steeler fans.

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Speaker 3: That would be better right now. I'm curious with these

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Speaker 2: That's tough to judge too, because they're both national oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: Somebody and it could be somebody in Chicago or somebody

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Speaker 3: They all don't.

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Speaker 2: We're not selling any you know, we're not selling anybody

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Speaker 3: Well, my sister lives in Minneapolis, and the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's how I think how it happens.

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Speaker 3: Again, I bet the tailgates are great. I bet everything

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Speaker 3: about it's great. I hope rain doesn't deter some Steeler fans. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: maybe I'll sell it now because rain, and I hope

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or you know, they just don't get as uh

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, yeah, Raine, You'll be fine. You're not

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Speaker 3: the wicked witch of the you can handle it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: what are you thinking about it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not gonna be cold and rainy. It's gonna

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Speaker 3: Do you expect a good game? I do? I do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to fast forward to the end of

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Speaker 3: the show with predictions and stuff though, But I think

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Speaker 3: you're getting Dallas at a pretty good time, and I

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Speaker 3: think they're pretty vulnerable.

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Speaker 2: And you're getting Dallas at are really good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean take their defense in particular, the.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna hamstring.

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Speaker 2: And the Steelers coming off a loss, especially for that defense.

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Speaker 3: And it's Sunday night game at home. Yeah, Tomlin night game.

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Speaker 3: The crowd past, all that good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all that good stuff. But yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 3: It, super recognized, tons of wins. I mean, I know

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Speaker 3: we've said it on here, but you did that piece

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Speaker 3: for Steelers dot Com about their wins, the Hall of

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Speaker 3: I'd like to.

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Speaker 3: I mean the primetime stuff is cool, but the wins

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Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff is Wow. It's really really

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Speaker 2: I mean, these two teams are tied for the six

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Speaker 2: mos most Hall of Famers in NFL history. And mind you,

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys have been here since nineteen sixty and if

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Speaker 2: you look at the Steelers history, it kind of started

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Speaker 3: I bet you match them. Either one of these teams

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Speaker 3: from nineteen sixty on or nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy, and that's, of course when the NFL merged

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Speaker 2: with the AFLAH. The Steelers have produced forty seasons with

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Speaker 2: a winning record. That is number one. The Cowboys are

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. Let me stop you real quick. One thing

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Speaker 3: those is I'm making funny of Steeler fans. You have

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Speaker 3: every right to expect this team to be good all

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Speaker 3: the time. But the Cowboys deal with this too. You know, like,

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Speaker 3: when's the last time they won a playoff game or

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Speaker 3: they've won a Super Bowl? In twenty years?

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Speaker 2: They went for a long time, went for a long

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Speaker 2: time from when they beat the Steelers in the Super

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Speaker 2: went without winning a playoff game, right, a playoff game,

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Speaker 2: and that's a hot seat. Yeah, Like that's unacceptable too.

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Speaker 2: They went like twenty years without winning a playoff game.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the fan bases that can kind of

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Speaker 3: jive with the Steelers in terms of expectations, which are

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Speaker 3: probably unfair, but that's okay. You know, that's a long

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Speaker 3: time to go without.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Cowboys lead the league since nineteen seventy with

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Speaker 2: wins in ten wins seasons with twenty nine. The Steelers

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Speaker 2: are tied for second with twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: They both could add to it.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers have an NFL best twenty four division titles

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Speaker 2: since the merger. The Cowboys are tied for second with

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow.

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Speaker 3: And again, the teenagers don't remember that stuff, and I

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Speaker 2: But right everyone even at that, you know, even if

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Speaker 2: how you doing?

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, I'm doing good. It's a big weekend, first

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all the home games?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, little match there with that, So the national spotlight

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Speaker 4: I know, yeah, it's not looking great, but you can

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Speaker 3: So Dallas Steelers doesn't happen all that often. One every

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is crazy. I do think it has a

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And of course the Dallas Cowboys head coach of

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Speaker 4: I think a huge bounce back. I think we'll go

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. And the vibes that Mike Prosus

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of that pep we you know, is

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Speaker 2: You know what that means, miss You better take your

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Speaker 4: if this one didn't happen, different outcome. Arthur Smith kind

441
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Speaker 4: of laid out those ones, the three big ones, I

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Speaker 4: think for the offense when he spoke yesterday. But kudashutawada,

443
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Speaker 4: you got the loss. You have to move on and

444
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Speaker 4: this is the prime Well I shouldn't say prime for

445
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Speaker 4: a prime time, but it's you know, a good opponent

446
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Speaker 4: Slash meeting Slash at home to try to write the

447
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Speaker 4: ship missy.

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Speaker 2: How was how was TJ on the sideline last week?

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Speaker 2: I know everybody's you know, we just we just had

450
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Speaker 2: an opportunity to talk with him a little bit ago

451
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Speaker 2: over at the facility and of course one of the

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Speaker 2: questions you weren't very impactful last week, you know, blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah. Has he raised the bar to that level

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Speaker 2: that if if he doesn't dominate a game, there's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when you're basically averaging a saka gay

457
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Speaker 4: but you know, people start scratching their heads. But I

458
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Speaker 4: think if you would watch the game and only watch

459
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Speaker 4: TJ and see what he is dealing with, getting tipped

460
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Speaker 4: the double teams being held, being mugged, knowing you're not

461
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Speaker 4: going to get every call, and Terrol Austin even said

462
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Speaker 4: it yesterday, like you have to fight through that. The

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Speaker 4: best players get held and.

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Speaker 2: Other guys are allot. If your star guy is getting

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Speaker 2: that much attention, somebody else has to win too. They're

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Speaker 2: one on one stone. Yes, right to.

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Speaker 4: Take advantage of it, right, But I just think TJ

468
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Speaker 4: he's so intense. He loves the game, he wants to win.

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Speaker 4: He's so focused. It's like sometimes if you see him

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Speaker 4: like laugh or smile, you're almost like whoa, you know,

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Speaker 4: because he's just even in the facility when he's going

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Speaker 4: to meetings and walking you know, out to practice. He's

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Speaker 4: just very regimented and you know, follows the same schedule

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Speaker 4: on Tuesdays when I come in for coaches press conference,

475
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Speaker 4: if I'm on time for when I like to be there,

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Speaker 4: I normally pass TJ in the hall because that's the

477
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Speaker 4: time TJ is in that hallway going to the cold tub.

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Speaker 4: So I do think that, uh yeah, it. TJ still

479
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Speaker 4: impacted the game, just not in the way that we're

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Speaker 4: used to. And I think because he's just hovering with

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Speaker 4: that half a stack to get to one hundred, there's

482
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Speaker 4: even more anticipation of it happening. But I was talking

483
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Speaker 4: with Max and Wolf this morning on their show and

484
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Speaker 4: Max is like, I mean, you know, love to guys, Lion.

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Speaker 3: Need love too, so you mention.

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Speaker 4: Just think about what that means, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, big Teddy bearzos too. Anyway, the slow start by

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Speaker 3: the Stier defense I thought was really alarming. I mean,

489
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Speaker 3: what was the feel like on the sidelines for that.

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Speaker 3: Was it kind of shock or disgusted or would How

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Speaker 3: were they reacting early in the game.

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Speaker 4: I think all of the above, like every emotion, mainly

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Speaker 4: the like almost like a disbelief of like how did

494
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Speaker 4: that just happen? And then it's like then the second drive, okay,

495
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Speaker 4: they got they got points again, and it's you know,

496
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Speaker 4: you just keep going down. And I do think they're

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Speaker 4: They're the more veteran group compared to the offense, so

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Speaker 4: I think they are good at pulling it together. But

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Speaker 4: I still just think the miscommunication, whatever was going on,

500
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Speaker 4: they weren't able to fix as quickly as I think

501
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Speaker 4: we would have expected. But I do think it was

502
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Speaker 4: the disbelief and shock of like, wait, we were supposed

503
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Speaker 4: to stop them, and like, we wanted our team to

504
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Speaker 4: go score touchdown and that's not what happened.

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Speaker 2: No, certainly not. Our guests is Missy Matthews, Steelers sideline reporter,

506
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Speaker 2: Missy on the on the other side of the coin,

507
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Speaker 2: what was the what was the feeling and the mood

508
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Speaker 2: with the offense in the second half once they got rolling.

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Speaker 2: Arthur Smith said yesterday he kind of felt like Justin

510
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Speaker 2: Fields took the game over. Did you did you sense

511
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Speaker 2: that feeling?

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Speaker 4: Yes? But he he's always like that. He is very cool,

513
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Speaker 4: calm and collected. I think that's just his personality, but

514
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Speaker 4: not to the point where you can't be a leader,

515
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Speaker 4: if that makes sense. He's just not like a scream

516
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Speaker 4: in your face guy. But literally, after almost every series,

517
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Speaker 4: after he talks to Mike Sullivan and some of the

518
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Speaker 4: other different coaches on the sideline and Arthur Smith, he

519
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Speaker 4: will go to each position group on offense and even

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Speaker 4: if it's just the like let's get going, or he'll

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Speaker 4: say something and bring a tablet talk to a wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: That's just common for him now on the sideline and

523
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Speaker 4: I think you were the quarter so you're supposed to

524
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Speaker 4: be the leader. But I think as somebody new to

525
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Speaker 4: the team, not thinking probably when you you got traded

526
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Speaker 4: here that you were going to be the number one

527
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Speaker 4: guy and you are that. It took a little bit

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Speaker 4: of maybe coming out of his shell to do it.

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Speaker 4: And I think, you know, I go back to last week,

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Speaker 4: coach Tomlin told Labs in his pregame interview, how he,

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Speaker 4: you know, makes it a point that on Wednesday mornings,

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Speaker 4: he meets with Justin Fields at seven am, lays out

533
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Speaker 4: the week, lays out the talking point, and he hears

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Speaker 4: it before they go to the eight thirty team meeting,

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Speaker 4: or then he hears it again. So Justin is aware

536
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Speaker 4: of what's going to happen or on the same page,

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Speaker 4: and he can be that leader. So we saw it

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Speaker 4: in Denver too. I think that was the first week

539
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Speaker 4: where you're like, Okay, yeah, he's doing it, and then

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Speaker 4: I think it's just continued to grow.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of quarterbacks, the last thing I have for you

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Speaker 3: is how active and involved has Russell Wilson been on

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Speaker 3: game day on sidelines all four weeks?

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Speaker 4: Very active. I mean he can't wear a headset. There's

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Speaker 4: a certain number of them, but he has one of

546
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Speaker 4: the little like ear piece almost like what the doctors wear,

547
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Speaker 4: if that makes sense. He can wear one of those.

548
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 4: So he's hearing the play call. He usually has a

549
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Speaker 4: wristband on. He's usually looking at it. He's another guy

550
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Speaker 4: that likes to take tablets and go talk to guys

551
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Speaker 4: or they come up to him to ask what he saw.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

553
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Speaker 3: Justin bounce a lot of stuff off them too.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh, I mean Russ is sitting there with

555
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Speaker 4: Justin Kyle, you know, the coaches. It's I think the

556
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Speaker 4: silent is very regimented. It's like the offensive lines on

557
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Speaker 4: the left, and then you have the wide receivers, the

558
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Speaker 4: running backs, the quarterbacks, like you can go down that's

559
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Speaker 4: where they sit every single time. And he's definitely involved.

560
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Speaker 4: I've seen him, you know, even go over to like

561
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Speaker 4: a dB and say something that maybe he saw or

562
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Speaker 4: didn't see or was trying to help. And he's definitely

563
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Speaker 4: one of those ultimate motivators where specially in the first

564
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Speaker 4: half where things were not going well, where he is

565
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Speaker 4: trying to like pick guys up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Missy will let you go. We know you

567
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Speaker 2: got a busy night with the fashion show tonight, so

568
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Speaker 2: have fun with that and should be a great kickoff

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Speaker 2: to what should be an exciting weekend here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Steelers Cowboys Sunday Night Football. Listen to the broadcast to

571
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Speaker 2: hear what Missy has to say from the sidelines with

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Speaker 2: that one. Should be a lot of fun. But have

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Speaker 2: a good weekend, Missy. We'll see you Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, guys. Yeah, we'll see you on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: There you go. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt,

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Speaker 2: and I'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and this is the Drive on the Steelers Audio

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Speaker 2: Network in Matt had a game last night in the NFL,

584
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Speaker 2: crazy one, exciting one, crazy exciting one. And people were

585
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Speaker 2: complaining again this morning about the NFL overtime rules. And

586
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Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with how the NFL does

587
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: if you can't stop a team from from scoring a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: On the opening drive of the of overtime. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you lose, you lose, right, And I think winning

591
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Speaker 3: the toss was huge.

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Speaker 2: For them, without a doubt. They had the momentum.

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Speaker 3: They had the momentum, and I thought it was a

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Speaker 3: very equally fought game except for one thing, not necessarily

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Speaker 3: even Cousins insane night in five hundred yards of the year,

596
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Speaker 3: et cetera. But I didn't realize this watching the game.

597
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Speaker 3: I mean, I wasn't shocked, but there's a pretty big discrepancy.

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00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 3: Tampa ran fifty one plays Atlanta ran eighty one. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and they scored sixteen points in the fourth quarter in overtime,

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Speaker 3: you know, like the worn learn right, Lesson learned. You

601
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 3: can't play that much defense. He can't be on the

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Speaker 3: field for eighty one plays.

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Speaker 2: No, not against a veteran quarterback, especially, he's going to

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Speaker 2: start to pick you apart. And that's exactly what Cousins did.

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Speaker 3: And I didn't study the all twenty two, but it

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00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 3: sure looked like a lot of zone and Cousins just

607
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 3: picking you apart and you know, taking what's there. And

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00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: he was very comfortable. And that offense is coming around.

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Speaker 3: I mean, guys like Mooney and Pitts. You're contributing quite

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Speaker 3: a bit, Ray Ray mc ray, Ray McCleod, your guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: absolutely so, Lana's a pretty good spot. Yeah. I do

612
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: think that division is going to beat up on each

613
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Speaker 3: other a lot, including the Saints. Those two in the Saints. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's a fun game and it's exactly what the NFL

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Speaker 3: wanted on a Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't a slog with a bunch of penalties and

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Speaker 3: nobody could score. I mean, it was two good quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: going at it. Yeah, they revitalized their careers absolutely. U.

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Speaker 2: Looking here at NFL dot com Att Gennaro Felice, who

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Speaker 2: is their deputy editor of written Contract, written content, whatever

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Speaker 2: that means, he put together his list of the top

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Speaker 2: twenty five rookies thus far this season. I thought we'd

624
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Speaker 2: run through that here real quick and see you had

625
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Speaker 2: a pretty good class. It has been and better even defensively.

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Speaker 2: I know when we were doing our draft stuff.

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Speaker 3: The first I wasn't drafted to what sixteen? This defensive

628
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: draft isn't great. There's some guys that have played pretty well.

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Speaker 3: You kind of down from twenty five to one, all right.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five? He is Caleb Williams, who was the number

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Speaker 2: one overall pick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he should be on the list. He

633
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Speaker 3: has not been the world beater, take the world by

634
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Speaker 3: storm type guy. I hope Nix is not on the list.

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Speaker 3: I hope you won't just get on just for being

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Speaker 3: a starting quarterback. Yeah, you know, and but that's also

637
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Speaker 3: not the easiest job in the world. Twenty four Xavier Worthy, Okay, flash,

638
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Speaker 3: he's gonna have to step up a little bit now,

639
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Speaker 3: no doubt. I mean in a different role.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three is a guy who we saw last night,

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Speaker 2: Bucky Irving.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's gonna take over. Yeah, the top guy.

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Speaker 2: And it shows you what kind of faith the Tampa

644
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Speaker 2: Bay coaching staff had in him. He had that fumble late, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he was right back in, right back in there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they know that.

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Speaker 2: I mean we saw White can't run the.

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Speaker 3: Football, you can't. He's a specialty player. He's a receiving back.

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Speaker 2: Only twenty two is lab Maconkey.

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Speaker 3: I think he's coming on really strong.

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Speaker 2: We were really high on I was really high on

652
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Speaker 2: him in the drafting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this fantasy note, I would grab him now while

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Speaker 3: you still can. He's looking better and better.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one is Graham Barton, the center for the Tampa

656
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers.

657
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's had some issues. I mean, he kind

658
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: of took the world by storm. Will be another center

659
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: on there that should be above him, and I think

660
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: we'll try to figure that out. Barton's going to be

661
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 3: a really good player, but he wasn't a center.

662
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

663
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: I mean like he's learning a new buildings.

664
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: I think since his freshman year he hadn't played the center, right.

665
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, So many of these first round linemen are learning the.

666
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: News around Yeah, and just goes to show you that

667
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: teams are willing to just take the body type and

668
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: athlete and say we're gonna plug you in here.

669
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, you know Geyton Fortanu, I mean all

670
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: these guys right. Twenty is Dominic Pooney, guard for the Yeah.

671
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: He's way niners, really good mid round pick. He'd be

672
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: an easy guy to overlook, but he was a plug

673
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: and play starter and has been quite good for him.

674
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 2: The number eighty overall they needed him. Nineteen is Kamari Lasseter,

675
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: second round cornerback.

676
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: I haven't studied him much, but I mean I think

677
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: he's a good fit there and was pretty high picked,

678
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: like you said second rounder. I think they're happy with him. Yeah.

679
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: Eighteen another guy we saw last night, Tyke Smith. He

680
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: got hurt in that game last night.

681
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: I think he did it a big collision. They like

682
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: him a lot. He's made a lot of plays for him.

683
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: One of these as you know, and you know this,

684
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: but I mean, if people weren't listening draft time, smaller

685
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: safety slash Nickel play the slot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and

686
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: Winfield's been out. I'm sure that's helped his playing time too.

687
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: That's a That's the thing so much with rookies. It's

688
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: all about opportunity, and yeah, I mean so much. Seventeen

689
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: is Andrew Phillips. Another guy we liked.

690
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: In the Yeah, he's been a success story as.

691
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: A seventieth overall pick, and he's number seventeen on this list.

692
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: Ye for him and the opportunities there, we grabbed him

693
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: a bunch of our marks. Sixteen Braylen Allen.

694
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: Not a starter, but I bet I mean, if you

695
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: consider thinking compared to like Bucky Irving, he's biting into

696
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: a much better running backs playing time than Irving.

697
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: That's anybody who owns a brief hall what they think

698
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: of Brian Allen right now, and they're probably not real

699
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: happy with him.

700
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: And that goes back to the preseason too. Likes there's

701
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 3: been buzz around him as soon as he put the

702
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 3: green on.

703
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

704
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: Uh.

705
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: Fifteen Tyler Nuban, the safety with the Giants.

706
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: I've heard good things. I haven't watched the whole whole

707
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: bunch of them, but I remember us talking about him

708
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: in the draft, thinking maybe he doesn't have the highest

709
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: ceiling in the world, but I doubt he busts and

710
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: you know, probably plays early, and that's coming around. You know.

711
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: Fourteen Ravens cornerback Nate Wiggins.

712
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: I've seen some up and down play with him. Humphrey's

713
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: been the better player. Yeah, their pass defense has not

714
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: been nearly as good as a run defense, but I

715
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: don't know it's all his fault.

716
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: Thirteen j C. Latham with the Tennessee Titans.

717
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: He's starting to come on pretty strong. He's starting to

718
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: adapt to being on the.

719
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: Whole of those guys that moved, Yeah, from right to left.

720
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: Right side of the road line is still a disaster though.

721
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: Twelve layout too late.

722
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: Two Yeah, I mean he was the guy I feared

723
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: that defense so we could go and he didn't do

724
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: a lot against Steelers, but he's another one that was

725
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: He was the first defensive player taken. He's somewhat of

726
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 3: a plug and play guy, you know, coming out of school,

727
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: really refined pass.

728
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: Rusher eleven to and Andre Sweat.

729
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: That shocks me, but it's very true. He's been very,

730
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 3: very good for them. I would have not considered him

731
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: at all at the top of second Round's let's see

732
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: if November to see you know, yeah, I mean the

733
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 3: rookie wall could be coming for such a big guy,

734
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: but he's been a real success story.

735
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: Ten is another guy the Steelers have seen already this season.

736
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: Joe alt Yep unfortunately got hurt, but really impressive early on.

737
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: No shocked, I mean, yeah, a really good prospect. Nine

738
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: is Talasi Fuaga.

739
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, with the Saints, I worry about their O line

740
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: as a whole now with McCoy out and going to

741
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 3: Kansas City Monday night. I could see that unit as

742
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: a whole being exposed. But I thought he was a

743
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 3: right tackle. Only some people thought he was only a guard.

744
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: I didn't agree with that at the time, but now

745
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 3: he's playing left tackle and holding up really well.

746
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 2: Eight is Brian Thomas Junior.

747
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be a star. I mean, things

748
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: are a mess down there, but that's one of the

749
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: only things to get excited about.

750
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Seven Marvin Harrison Junior.

751
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, started the season slow, but I think he'll be okay.

752
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 2: I'll be fine.

753
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 4: Yes.

754
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: Six Rock Bowers, no question, no question.

755
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: I think he's in the process of becoming the focal

756
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 3: point of their passing game and as the matter of

757
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: the catch stuff, his tons of versatility, all around exceptional

758
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: football player.

759
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 2: Five Quinnyan Mitchell.

760
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 3: It's been some talk that he's in the lead for

761
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 3: defensive player at the Rookie of the Year. Corners are

762
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: hard to watch from AFAR, Don't get me wrong if

763
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: you're not paying a super strict the con attention to

764
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 3: their team, but everyone's been buzzing about him a lot.

765
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: Four Jared Verse with the Yeah, I didn't.

766
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 3: Like him as much as I thought as I do now.

767
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 3: I mean I thought he was the third or fourth

768
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: best edge guy, but his game translates because.

769
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 2: Of the power guy.

770
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: I mean, he plays hard, he tries to go right

771
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: through you, and you're sore the next day playing that guy,

772
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 3: and that that translates the league.

773
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: Three Zach Frazier, no doubt, no doubt.

774
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: I mean it's case to be one. Yeah, I mean

775
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: putting the car before the case to be one, that

776
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: one's put in the car first. The top two are

777
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 3: pretty awesome. Yeah, but he's playing as well as just

778
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 3: about any center.

779
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: But you think about it in that context. He's ranked

780
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: third on this list of the best rookies in the

781
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: league thus far. Sure, and we've got a quarterback who's

782
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: completing eighty percent of his passes. Yeah, and a wide

783
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: receiver who's catching like ten passes a game. It's like

784
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 2: Nikua and Stroud last, and he's a center center.

785
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: It's hard to notice, right, And he's really really good, yeah,

786
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: I mean, like his highlights are fun, you know, And

787
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: he's playing as well as anything.

788
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: Listed ahead of all the tackles that went way before

789
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: he did. And it just makes you wonder where Troy

790
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: Filtano would be. I know, if he hadn't gotten hurt,

791
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: could he.

792
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: Be in that equation as well? You know, maybe, you know,

793
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: maybe by the end of the season.

794
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: You know, if Mason McCormick ends up starting the rest

795
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: of the year, he makes his way onto this list

796
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: as well.

797
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder how many rookie It would be real

798
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: hard to figure out. But I wonder how many rookie

799
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 3: offensive linemen or slated the schedule or to start the

800
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 3: high percentage of the season.

801
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the two Malik neighbors.

802
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you have to put the quarterback on.

803
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 2: And then one is Jayden and Daniels. He's just doing

804
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 2: ridiculous stuff right now. But it's noteworthy that the Cowboys

805
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: have two rookie starters on their offensive line not mentioned

806
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 2: who didn't make the list.

807
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was thinking that too when we were talking

808
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 3: about how many rookie starters from day one even and

809
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: they're okay, but man Geiton had a rough go of

810
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 3: it against the Giants, a lot of penalties. He's questionable.

811
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 3: We're joking on the Thursday Show last night that Steel

812
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 3: should send him a get well card and hopefully he's

813
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: able to play, but I'm sure his backup's worse. The

814
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 3: center has been fine.

815
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what they would do in that situation

816
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 2: if he can't play. Do they kick Tyler Smith out?

817
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: How that works with their That's an option, Yeah, it's

818
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 3: an option I'd rather.

819
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: But you know, a Tyler Smith most of the time

820
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 2: is going to be lined up opposite Cam Hayward and

821
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: it's not the.

822
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 3: Day to get weak at left guard. I don't know

823
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: how they would figure that out. It's one nice thing

824
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 3: about Smith is you know, yeah, they thought he'd be

825
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 3: the right.

826
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: Time, kind of like the kid in Green Bay that

827
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: kicks out. Yeah, yeah, exactly, really good guards, but they

828
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: can kick if.

829
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 3: You need to. Yeah, maybe that's how they would handle it.

830
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: But Geyton it's going to have a hard time with

831
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: power and took two or three holding penalties in that

832
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: Giants game against mostly against Thibodeau.

833
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, so worth watching, worth watching. But Zach Fraser has

834
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 2: been very, very good defect the rare stuff number three

835
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: on this list with the two guys ahead of him

836
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: are doing historic stuff. Yeah, for rookies and at skill positions,

837
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: they're going to get the Yeah.

838
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 3: And it looks like Neighbors probably gonna play this week. Yeah,

839
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: with a concussion, which is a big deal.

840
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's already been ruled out.

841
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: He's like their whole offense already.

842
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

843
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

844
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: So again, I enjoy what you're watching here and if

845
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: you get the chance, if you're if you're at the

846
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: game or you're just watching on TV, and you can

847
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 2: kind of just focus on what he's doing as a blocker. Yeah,

848
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: do that, Yeah, just a few, even if it's just

849
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: five plays a game, and even.

850
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 3: If you want to get nerdier. I'm not here to

851
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: promote the NFL necessarily, but they it's not that expensive

852
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: to get their all twenty two stuff now in NFL

853
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 3: dot Com.

854
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: He's got some fans out there like Brian Baldinger who

855
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 2: will put some some video of him on social media,

856
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: like just pancaking guys left and right. And this is

857
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: the NFL, folks.

858
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: You don't pancakes are rare.

859
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 2: They're very rare.

860
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, on their butts.

861
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: Putting rare three hundred and twenty pounders on their butts, yeap,

862
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: on a regular basis just doesn't happen all that often.

863
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 3: I retweeted somebody that just put his highlights from the

864
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: Colts game on there. I mean, you just go checking

865
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 3: my timeline and then you'll be hooked like a handful

866
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: of plays. It's like, wow, you just don't see that

867
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 3: in the league very well.

868
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he's been he's been impressive for thus far,

869
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 2: and he's just gonna keep getting better and better.

870
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: I would think, right, you know, and so they they

871
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 3: absolutely stole one there.

872
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see, uh what he looks like

873
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: next to Isaac sam Malu this week.

874
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: It'd be nice for those guys to play the rest

875
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: of the season together, you know, every.

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Speaker 2: Snap with McCormick in there. Now you've got a real

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Speaker 2: butt kicker line.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's no question, not to Daniels.

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Speaker 2: To Daniels playing well and and that kind.

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Speaker 3: Of stuff, but the attitude is going to be extreme.

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Speaker 3: There's Yeah, it's a good call. I'm excited about McCormick.

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Speaker 4: Two.

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Speaker 3: I wish Daniels was in there. Talked about it yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I was a little shocked Pro Football Focus had him

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Speaker 3: on their their all Pro team right now and he's

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Speaker 3: like their top ranked guard. It's played really well. He's

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Speaker 3: gonna be missed. But McCormick's we were both pretty high

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Speaker 3: on him coming out too.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, let's get to a break. That's gonna do

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Speaker 2: it for our number one of the drive here on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back with

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Speaker 2: our number two right after this.