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Speaker 1: If you want Colts Talk all year long, you're in

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Speaker 1: the right place. Caught over the medal.

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Speaker 2: Michael Pittman Junior.

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Speaker 3: There we go, He's at the forty.

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Speaker 2: Galloped top paydirt in the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studio.

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Speaker 2: Let's get the podcast started. Welcome into the Official Colts Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jeffrey Gorman, JJ Stankowitz is here. Lara Overton is

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Speaker 2: here weekend and week out, bringing you the best coverage.

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Speaker 2: We're just talking about this before. It's like if there

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Speaker 2: is a not a low point, but like the lowest

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Speaker 3: Kind of like NFL purgatory.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like you're just waiting for the next level of

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Speaker 2: And somebody questions are coming up so many, but I

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Speaker 2: want to start off of the football field for a minute.

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Speaker 2: What happens? I'm gonna start with JJ Sankabus because I

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Speaker 2: can't wait till your topic comes up. Elow what starts

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Speaker 2: in thirty six days? JJ?

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Speaker 1: The MLB season?

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Speaker 2: Okay, And with that being said, two part question need

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Speaker 2: two answers. A who wins the Most Valuable Player this year?

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Speaker 2: This is way preseason? And who is taking home the hardware?

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Speaker 2: I mean the MVP and the World Series champion? How

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Speaker 1: You probably can't go against the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean Otani just hit his first swing as

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Speaker 2: a Dodger MVP. He hit one out of the park.

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Speaker 1: Took one out, took one deep. They got that Yamamoto guy.

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Speaker 1: see the Seattle Mariners win it Seattle. I want to

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Speaker 1: see Julio Rodriguez ascend to some superstardom. Good player, real

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Speaker 1: good player and MVP. How about Julio Rodriguez?

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Speaker 1: Nice, and by the way, I just want to everyone

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Speaker 2: we're going with Julio Rodriguez. Rodriguez and the Dodgers A right, yeah, loo, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: Here's the deal. Franchise tag window opens today, runs through

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Speaker 2: NFL combine. A lot of better coming at you. Colts

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Speaker 2: here we go, the unofficial kickoff of the off season

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Speaker 2: So I have Q and A time for you too today.

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Speaker 2: A lot of questions I need answers out of you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I think the question there becomes like does he sign

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Speaker 1: They did this with Kyle Fuller where he was coming

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Speaker 2: Gotcha.

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Speaker 1: The transition tag allows you to match an offer sheet.

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Speaker 1: But it's essentially a tool. If you aren't close with

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Speaker 2: Want a good explanation, go to colts dot com read

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Speaker 2: this man's article on it Leara. We talk about this

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Speaker 2: Are we not in the market for a backup quarterback?

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure that backup quarterbacks have been more valuable

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't surprise me if.

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Speaker 4: His rapport with Shane. He and Anthony and Sam Ellinger

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Speaker 2: How much difference, JJ, in your opinion, Layer's are making

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think probably in those games where Anthony exited,

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Speaker 1: There's not a quarterback in the NFL. Who's going to

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Speaker 4: twenty four, Kirk Cousins, Ryan Tannehill, Jacoby Brissett, Mitchell True, Bisky,

437
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Speaker 4: Tyrod Taylor, Marcus Mariota, Sam Darnold, Drew Locke, Baker Mayfield,

438
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 4: and we get to Gardner, Teddy Bridgewater who was obviously

439
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 4: already retired and he's going to go coach his high

440
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 4: school team. There's that great shot that you saw of

441
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Speaker 4: him after their last game. But yeah, that's kind of

442
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Speaker 4: what you're looking at on the open market right now.

443
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Speaker 4: So of course, a couple of those guys, you know,

444
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Speaker 4: it'd be interesting to see what Kirk Cousins does.

445
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Speaker 3: Nothing necessarily that.

446
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Speaker 4: That would be a situation here, but you know, kind

447
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 4: of intriguing to see does he go back to the vikings, you.

448
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Speaker 1: Know, and could you also have a situation where if

449
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Speaker 1: Gardner walks, do you just elevate Sam Elngerder.

450
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Speaker 2: Another great question that's now a third fourth year around.

451
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Speaker 3: He spent a draft pick on him for a reason, right, Yeah.

452
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Speaker 2: Is this the time that he develops into the guy? Hey,

453
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 2: something goes down with our number one. We got Sam there.

454
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Speaker 2: I think it's a perfect year for that. A lot

455
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Speaker 2: to be I mean, so much to be told in

456
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Speaker 2: this thing, because you know, damned if you do, damned

457
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Speaker 2: if you don't. You want to let the young guy

458
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Speaker 2: develop in some instances, but then you got the veteran

459
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Speaker 2: there that you know he's going to be able to

460
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Speaker 2: bring the ball down the field. Okay, here we go.

461
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Speaker 2: We've talked about the backup quarterback, about Antny Richardson, We

462
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 2: talked about Michael Pittman. Defensively speaking, Are they adding to

463
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 2: always looking for help? Is it in the back end?

464
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 2: Is it? Or is it on the defensive line, or

465
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Speaker 2: is it the secondary.

466
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Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the question of where do

467
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Speaker 1: those resources go. The Colts spent money to get Samson

468
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Speaker 1: ebucom here last year, you're probably gonna, you know, if

469
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Speaker 1: you want to retain Grover Stewart, you're gonna have to

470
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Speaker 1: spend there as well. I'm kind of talking about outside

471
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Speaker 1: of if the Colts decide to retain Grove and Kenny

472
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Speaker 1: Julian kind of where else do the resources go on

473
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Speaker 1: that side of the ball. Is it defensive line? Do

474
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Speaker 1: you fortify that group with another pass rush or another

475
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Speaker 1: defensive tackle, or do you look at corner where the

476
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: Colts intentionally went young but said we want to develop

477
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Speaker 1: the young guys. We want Jalen Jones to get playing time,

478
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Speaker 1: we want Juju Brentz to get playing time, we want

479
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Speaker 1: Dallas Flowers to get playing time, which they did last

480
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Speaker 1: year to a different, you know, varying extents. And do

481
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Speaker 1: you then say, okay, maybe we need to go get

482
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Speaker 1: a veteran corner in there, Maybe we need to go

483
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Speaker 1: get a veteran safety in there. Where you got Nick

484
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Speaker 1: Cross getting playing time, you got Ronnie Thomas getting playing

485
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Speaker 1: time as well. That part of it's interesting, like the

486
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Speaker 1: Colts have the flexibility like we're talking about with Anthony Richards,

487
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Speaker 1: and it extends defense where you can have more flexibility

488
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Speaker 1: to go spend resources on that side of the ball.

489
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Speaker 1: Does that extend to we're gonna pour more into the

490
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Speaker 1: D line, which we know Chris Ballard is a you

491
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Speaker 1: went up front type of guy. Or is it kind

492
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Speaker 1: of like the Colts did two years ago where they

493
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Speaker 1: went and they got Stefan Gilmour and spent some resources

494
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Speaker 1: on that in the off season. Do you go look

495
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Speaker 1: that way? I don't know what the answer is, but

496
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Speaker 1: that's gonna kind of be a really interesting thing to

497
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Speaker 1: follow this offseason. Is where do those cap dollars and

498
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Speaker 1: those draft picks go.

499
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Speaker 4: To me, at some point, you've got to not even

500
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Speaker 4: invest because you've made the investment, but you almost have

501
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Speaker 4: to gamble on the guys that you drafted. You've got

502
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Speaker 4: to go all in with Quitty and Dio and those guys,

503
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 4: and now it's like, this is the time, this is

504
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Speaker 4: where those guys.

505
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Speaker 1: That's funny because I thought you were gonna say Juju

506
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Speaker 1: and Jalen.

507
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Speaker 3: Oh, oh, that's funny.

508
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Speaker 1: Yes, you could could go both ways.

509
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 3: Right, you really could.

510
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Speaker 4: I'm just thinking in terms of typically the necessary development

511
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 4: that you have, especially as a pass rusher, that usually

512
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 4: takes a couple of years to transition and kind of

513
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Speaker 4: translate from the college game, learning a new system in

514
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Speaker 4: the NFL, learning that new scheme, and then having the

515
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Speaker 4: type of success and impact that you do in the NFL.

516
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Speaker 3: So to me, I think that this is you head.

517
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Speaker 4: Your bets and you go all in with that dioquitty,

518
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 4: you know, kind of investment there, plus what you've done

519
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Speaker 4: with Samson the other guys who you have. I think

520
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 4: that this is where those guys and you know, whatever

521
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Speaker 4: we see transpire.

522
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Speaker 3: Of course, with that defensive front and with that group.

523
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Speaker 4: I think it will be heavily dependent on the effectiveness

524
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Speaker 4: and the development of those two guys.

525
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Speaker 1: To me, I kind of feel like cornerback isn't as

526
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Speaker 1: big of a need though as some people may think,

527
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Speaker 1: Like I every mock draft, I see, oh, Colts need

528
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Speaker 1: a cornerback, Colts need a cornerback. I don't know if

529
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Speaker 1: it's like that red line of a need. I know

530
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: everyone's you know, you can be scarred from what CJ.

531
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: Stroud did to the Colts, absolutely, but think about the

532
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: flashes you saw from Juju Brent's where if he can

533
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Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy, and he said after the

534
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Speaker 1: season his number one goal this offseason is figuring out

535
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Speaker 1: how to be healthy and how to stay healthy for

536
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Speaker 1: a full season. You saw some good things out of

537
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Speaker 1: Jalen Jones. Can you win with those guys? Can you?

538
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Speaker 1: You know, Dallas Flowers was showing some good things and

539
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: he had the achilles injury in Week four. Could you

540
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Speaker 1: go into the season without being like, we need to

541
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Speaker 1: like get way over our skis at cornerback, take a

542
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Speaker 1: guy in the first round, get the top of the

543
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Speaker 1: market free agent, and say we're actually going to be

544
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Speaker 1: pretty good at that position.

545
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Speaker 4: It's to me it all hinges on Kenny and what

546
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Speaker 4: you do with his contract situation.

547
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, cause you've gotta be You gotta be good

548
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: in the slot, especially in a division that has the

549
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. Now you gotta have three corners on the field.

550
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: You gotta be a nickel quite a bit. And that's

551
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Speaker 1: what Gus Bradley likes to play. And I mean, Kenny's

552
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: also so important to the run defense. The way that

553
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 1: he can play is like kind of that third linebacker

554
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: on the field in addition to playing coverage. But yeah,

555
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Speaker 1: I mean, you need to make sure that you got

556
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Speaker 1: that lockdown, whether it's Kenny someone else, before you start

557
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: thinking about do we need to lock down the outside?

558
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Speaker 2: And he said it a few years ago. I don't

559
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Speaker 2: remember the exact year, but it was something along the

560
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: lines of, Hey, they're telling me it's free agency season,

561
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Speaker 2: I'm signing free agents. They're in my own they're in

562
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: our locker room, right, you know that mentality of signing

563
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 2: within Okay, scenario question, Lara, I'm gonna start with you,

564
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,239
Speaker 2: a big splash. Does it need to be Does it

565
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: need to happen this year with this offense? And here's

566
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 2: your your three categories big splash, wide receiver, tight end, draft, trade,

567
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Speaker 2: free agency. If if that happens, and it's a splash,

568
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Speaker 2: you're spending fifteen on a wide receiver or tight end.

569
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Speaker 2: You're making a raid for a veteran wide receiver or

570
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Speaker 2: a tight end. For I'm saying, I know I'm kind

571
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: of pigeonhole in those two, those two positions. But if that,

572
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 2: if nothing happens along those lines, is it a surprise

573
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Speaker 2: if nothing happens in that department?

574
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Speaker 4: Yes, I think if nothing happens, yes, because I think

575
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Speaker 4: I think actually two of those three to me, are

576
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 4: are pretty likely. I think that you can make a

577
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 4: splash by resigning Michael Pittman. And I also think you

578
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 4: can make a splash in the draft and use fifteen

579
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Speaker 4: on an offensive playmaker.

580
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Speaker 2: And when you say playmaker, let's just get this right.

581
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Speaker 2: Either a wide receiver, either a tight.

582
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Speaker 1: End, because you have running back settled.

583
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Speaker 3: Running backs so when you bring back Zack Moss.

584
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm more saying that that I have that on

585
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Speaker 1: the rundown, the top the top running ya.

586
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Speaker 3: Do you have that settled? That's my cot.

587
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Speaker 1: Well, it's the you have your top running back tailor,

588
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: no question. So you're probably not going to use fifteen, right,

589
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: that's more I'm okay, sure, Like the most valuable things

590
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Speaker 1: you have in this offseason are pick fifteen and the caps,

591
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: the effective cap space you have available. How much of

592
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: that those big time assets go toward a wide receiver

593
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: or a tight end? And I threw tight end in

594
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: there because you're just we're talking about pass catches here, Like,

595
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: this isn't just you know, just a wide receiver just

596
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: a tight end. It's a pass catch to whether it's

597
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: a compliment to Michael Pittman, whether it's a replacement to

598
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman, whether it's Michael Pittman and then someone else.

599
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: The one thing I will say is every draft podcast

600
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: I've listened to has talked about how deep a year

601
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 1: this is for wide receivers. This is one of those

602
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: years where like, and we had Trevor Sikhma on last

603
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: week where he was talking about you know, you kind

604
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: of have those top three guys who are probably out

605
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: of range for the Colts just based on you know,

606
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: reading tea leaves, which would be Marvin Harrison Junior, sorry, uh,

607
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors and Roma Dunze from Washington. But then after

608
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: that you have a lot of guys who are talented

609
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: who you could potentially say, we don't love any of

610
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: these guys at fifteen, but we really like this guy

611
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: in the second round, like the Colts did with Michael

612
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: Pittman Junior a couple of years ago. Maybe that's the

613
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: route you go.

614
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 4: And I have heard from just various scouts over you know,

615
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 4: multiple seasons that they were Some have indicated that, you know,

616
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 4: in that top ten, it's a pretty significant that stature

617
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 4: of the talent you're getting within the top ten, that

618
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 4: is one big block of talent. Then basically from kind

619
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Speaker 4: of that next tier, say eleven to thirty five, it's

620
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 4: pretty com it can be, depending on a year, pretty comparable.

621
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Speaker 4: So you could get someone high in that second round

622
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Speaker 4: or it's not going to be a drastic difference, say

623
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Speaker 4: between fifteen and thirty five in terms of the caliber

624
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 4: of talent that you're able to acquire at that position.

625
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: The one thing here for Colts fans to maybe root for.

626
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: How about quarterback stock rising in the draft? Like there

627
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: are two, you know, Caleb Williams and Drake May seem

628
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: to be kind of the you know, they'll go top three,

629
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: but Jayden Daniels right there, and now there's all this

630
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: buzz about JJ McCarthy being a top twelve to fifteen pick.

631
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: The more quarterbacks that go off the board ahead of

632
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: the Colts the better, because then you might be looking

633
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: at shoot, we're sitting at fifteen, but we have this

634
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: guy top ten on our board, but we can still

635
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: get him at fifteen. It doesn't matter what position he

636
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: plays at that point if you have a say it's

637
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: a corner or you know, whoever, and he's available at fifteen.

638
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: If you're like, ah, but we need to get a

639
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: weapon for Anthony Richardson. But this guy's a top ten cornerback,

640
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: we gotta go take him. But this guy's a top

641
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: ten d lineman, we gotta go take him.

642
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: If you see that draft board, it kind of falls

643
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: out like that and all of a sudden, ten, eleven,

644
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: twelve is in there, and you're Chris Ballard and you're

645
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: in the back there and you're saying, our guy's gonna

646
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: be there, Why don't I just if I can notch

647
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: up two slots, three slots, I'll give him a little

648
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: bit out of the cabinet, but I'll keep my first

649
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: rounder on this one. We'll move up. They get that,

650
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: and you know, Bob's your uncle. Everything's good. Obviously that's

651
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: in a perfect scenario. But there's so many of them

652
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: out there. That's why I wanted to get to is

653
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: like we're surprised between the draft, between trays and between

654
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: free agency. If a wide receiver isn't in this building

655
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: is what I'm coming to the consensus. And you know,

656
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: if that doesn't happen and we don't run the football franchise.

657
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: But you know, obviously following along on that, it looks

658
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: like that's gonna happen. We don't know if it's going

659
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: to be you know, a veteran or they will spend

660
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: a fifteen on a guy that becomes available.

661
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: Like you said, it was the you know the Chris

662
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: Ballard quote from January, Like it's it's like gas. If

663
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: gas is four bucks a gallon, you got to have

664
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: it in your car. Yeah, the wide receiver. You know,

665
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: you got to have a wide receiver. You gotta have

666
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: wide receivers on your team.

667
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: Love it. We've talked about the Olympics today. Yeah, we've

668
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: really We've talked about the NFL Draft again, Major League Baseball.

669
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: Haven't talked about food yet. Going to get to the

670
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: NBA All Star weekend. But I just kind of want

671
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: to wrap up a little bit with this Colts off

672
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: season offseason talk because next week it's for real down

673
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: at the combine. How much does free agency tell us

674
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: about the draft? Obviously it's an easy question to hey,

675
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: we signed this guy, then we don't need this guy

676
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: in the draft. Not the case. So we need depth.

677
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: These NFL franchises need depth that's even an offensive line

678
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: and then the wide receiver room included.

679
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: I think usually when you look at the first three rounds,

680
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: you can say, okay, this team did this in free agency,

681
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: so there's no bare like Usually those first three rounds

682
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: you're looking for contributors right off the bat, like whether

683
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: it's you know, a guy who's gonna start for you

684
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: probably in the first round, compete to start in the

685
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: second round, compete to start in the third round, or

686
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: be a contributor in the third round you don't want it.

687
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: Like last year, for instance, the Colt signed Isaiah Mackenzie.

688
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 1: He's the only wide receiver move they made that did

689
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: not preclude them from drafting Josh Downs, and that having

690
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: Josh Downs wind up competing and wind up taking in

691
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: most of those snaps in the slot. That's usually kind

692
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: of what I you know, I mean by this is

693
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: like you can sort of follow that path. Whereas you

694
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: sign last year Samson Ebacom to that contract, You've already

695
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: invested quite a bit in Quidy pay and Dio Dangbo

696
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,479
Speaker 1: through the draft, and maybe we don't need a d

697
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: end in the first couple rounds Now, having said that,

698
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: you're always gonna say, if there's a guy who's just

699
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: sticking out on your board, there are very few players

700
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL who are going to preclude you from

701
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: drafting that guy like you are. If you're the Los

702
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams five years ago, you're probably not taking a

703
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: defensive a three tech defensive tackle in the first round

704
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: because you have Aaron Donald, right, But if you're the

705
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams, now, okay, yeah, maybe we'll take a

706
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: detackle because we think that guy could be Aaron Donald's replacement.

707
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: Right.

708
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm more just saying like it's easy to see with quarterbacks, right,

709
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: Like the Chiefs are not taking a quarterback in the

710
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: first round, the Ravens are not taking a quarterback in

711
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 1: the first round. But there are teams that you know,

712
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: you look at how contracts are structured and the moves

713
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: that you make in free agency, those usually give you

714
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: a bit of a roadmap of what teams might be

715
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: thinking about when it comes to April.

716
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: Lea a position close to your heart, because I know

717
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: you love those guys in that room, but the tight

718
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: end position and what's going to happen with these There

719
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: is a lot and I mean a lot of talent

720
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: in that room right now. And then you know, we

721
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: can go over those names. But I'm telling you, you know,

722
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: we didn't get Woods last year, and now he's coming

723
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: back this year with that big talent, that big target.

724
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: We don't know what's going on with ogle Tree. Got

725
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: a feeling though, I'm just gonna leave that one alone.

726
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: But then you've got the Will Mallories coming on here. Actually,

727
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: the veteran what we're talking about between mo Aley Cox,

728
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: between Kyle and Grants and the veterans, and you know

729
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: what we're seeing of the young guys coming, specifically Woods

730
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: as he's sack healthy. Do they need to make a splash? Yeah,

731
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: the great tight ends over this upcoming NFL draft as well.

732
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: Well, I'm really intrigued by what Tom Manning will do

733
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 4: with the second year with that group. I thought last

734
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 4: year his impact on the tight ends was evident in

735
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 4: what he was able to do with that group and

736
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 4: some of the development you saw, and then also just

737
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 4: Shane's implementation of more of those guys as well, utilization

738
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 4: of them more so in the passing game.

739
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 3: I thought Moe had a huge year developing, especially as

740
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: a blocker.

741
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 4: And then it was fun to see, you know, Kylon

742
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 4: used in a couple of different ways. You saw some

743
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,239
Speaker 4: kind of trick play scenarios. You saw how they got

744
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 4: kind of creative in the ways you can utilize him.

745
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: More so, it's you don't have that one dominant guy.

746
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 4: You've got a lot of good guys who are very

747
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: well compliments to one another. Now it's almost time that

748
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 4: somebody kind of has to step in and take over

749
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 4: and be the go to guy, be that end zone threat.

750
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 4: You know that you did see flashes of Jelani in

751
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 4: his rookie season. If it's kind of like you know,

752
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 4: you talked about with Juju, this big.

753
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 3: Thing is got to learn how to stay healthy. That's

754
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 3: what Jelani has to do.

755
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 4: And you know we've seen him around the building putting

756
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 4: in a ton of work all of those things. Now

757
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 4: it's kind of time to prove it. And I think

758
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 4: that this off season period, as guys get back in

759
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 4: the building later in the spring and all of that

760
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 4: will be really indicative of what you have within that

761
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 4: group and if you need to fortify that group in

762
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 4: some way.

763
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: Wow, Will Mallory. Will Mallory just a few plays in

764
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: the back of my head from last oh my God

765
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 2: season then I was like that he's just a quiet

766
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: young man, a very personable guy obviously, but just showed up.

767
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: Has some huge plays that I'm thinking, coach have a

768
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: good problem in that tight end room right now in

769
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: my opinion. And the funny thing is there's you know,

770
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: an all and all and do all the guy who

771
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: does everything tight end that will remain nameless. That's in

772
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: the upcoming draft. It's like it's like, with all that

773
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 2: talent they have right now, JJ could you see something

774
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: like that. Could you see if they're guys towed up

775
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: at fifteen they said, hey, the best player available or

776
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: whatever it is. But cold could Ballard add another title?

777
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: But it's like what you know, Lara was just talking

778
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: about that. All those guys they've shown flashes, Right, We've

779
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: seen grantson Mallory Mow, you know Jelani in twenty twenty two.

780
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: We've seen those. All those guys flash. We haven't seen

781
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: it consistently. And you look at the four team We

782
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: talked about this in a previous pot, but the four

783
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: teams that were in the conference championships, they all had

784
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: kind of that guy at tight end, Mark Andrews, Sam Laporta,

785
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: Travis Kelce, George Kittle. Those are kind but those guys

786
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 1: were all taken in the second, third, fourth, fifth rounds,

787
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: which is what the Colts have done. The Colts have

788
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: tried to follow that. Where tight end development usually takes

789
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: a couple of years. It's rare to see as Sam

790
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: Ula Porter come in and have you know the season

791
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: he had. Usually it's one, two, three, four, five years

792
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: into a guy's career.

793
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 4: Thank back to Jack Doyle, undrafted guy you signed off

794
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 4: the Titans practice squad and look what you know.

795
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: I mean, so you need to give tight ends time

796
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: to develop. But it also has kind of been shown

797
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: that you don't need to get that guy in the

798
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: first round. There are guys who you know, TJ. Hockinson's

799
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: a pretty good example of someone who has taken in

800
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: the first round has been successful, but it also took

801
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: him to three four years to really reach the level

802
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: that he's at now as one of the best tight

803
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: ends in the NFL. So you need to give him time.

804
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: And sometimes you can find those guys like a you know,

805
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: in the fifth round, like where George Kittle was drafted, right.

806
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: Lara, in this whole thing, any positions I haven't talked about,

807
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: we haven't talked about here that he's surprised that if

808
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: a higher draft pick comes from a second, third, fourth,

809
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 2: as far as but it's a loaded question because we

810
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on free agency. Yeah, well it's

811
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 2: okay down the road.

812
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: But you know, so this is why you brought up

813
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: Zach Moss, and I wanted to throw it back to

814
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: Zack Moss is probably not in the first round, but

815
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: what if you're looking in the second round and there's

816
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: a guy who's an explosive playmaker, like you know, not

817
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: saying this guy's available. I haven't looked at literally any

818
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: running back except I know frank Or Junior's frank Or's

819
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: kid is in the NFL draft this year. That's all.

820
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 3: I know.

821
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: What if you, like you looked at it and you're like,

822
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: this guy's Jumior Gibbs and we're sitting here in the

823
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: second round, wouldn't you think about taking him. It's not

824
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: like he's gonna, you know, in pinge on Jonathan Taylor's

825
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: productivity and you know he maybe takes a couple of

826
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: touches away. Maybe that's not a bad bet. What if

827
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: there's like that type of a weapon, I mean, like

828
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: even like you know what twenty eighteen nim Hinz like

829
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: that type of guy where it's a different skill set

830
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: than the running back you already have in But a

831
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: guy here you can envision being a playmaking weapon within

832
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: your offense. That I think is something that is absolutely

833
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: I think the Colts would.

834
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 2: Consider playmakers always or yeah, come this way.

835
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: So just because the Colts us a first round pick

836
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: on a running back right doesn't necessarily mean that they

837
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: won't use a Day two pick or a high Day

838
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: three pick on a running.

839
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: Back, any boy, I hope I don't get in trouble

840
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: for going over this. What are we talking about with

841
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: our special teams department right now, specifically when we're talking

842
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: about Rigoberto.

843
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a free agent, so that's another one of

844
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 4: those you know, do you resign your own type of situation?

845
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: You know, and he has spent.

846
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 4: His entire career here, obviously coming back off the injury

847
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 4: last year, and you saw him just get progressively stronger.

848
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: He got a lot better over the course of.

849
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 3: The year with that Achilles tear that he as survivor. Yeah.

850
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, So Matt Gay you have locked up Luke Rhodes.

851
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 4: I think it's pretty set. But it's really just kind

852
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 4: of what's the situation with Rego and you know, what

853
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 4: price can he get him back.

854
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: On right well?

855
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: And the other you know, the thing that is the

856
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: most boring thing to talk about every off season, but

857
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: is one of the most important, is how do you

858
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: fell out your special team's depth chart? Where does that

859
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: come from? Does it come from, you know, a bunch

860
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 1: of draft picks, does it come from undrafted free agents?

861
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: Does it come from veteran free agents. That's something that, again,

862
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: no one really cares to talk about in terms of like,

863
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about should the Colts get Michael

864
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: Pittman on the tag or whatever, And I'm like, yeah,

865
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: but what about your you know what about that like

866
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Speaker 1: fifth guy on special teams?

867
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: Right?

868
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: But that has been an important thing that the Colts

869
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: have had over the years and is something else that

870
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: as you go through the draft, there's kind of that

871
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: point in the draft where guys go from this guy's

872
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: gonna be a contributor on offense or defense to this

873
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: guy's going to be a special teams guy. And even

874
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: like you hear like Chris Ballard talk about Daniel Scott,

875
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: the fifth round safety who tore his ACL in the

876
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: off season. You hear him talk about, you know, Daniel Scott,

877
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: Like that guy was gonna be a special teams contributor,

878
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: but you could have played a little on defense. Like

879
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: there's always that one guy who's like the front office

880
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: and the scouting staff love is, like, this guy's a

881
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: core special teamer from the day he walks on the field.

882
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: But that's not something that you're asking a lot questions

883
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: about at this point.

884
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: In the off sea, for sure, so much answer, so

885
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: many answers rather that are gonna be We're gonna have

886
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: so many answers rather after talking to you know, these

887
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 2: these young men that are coming out in the upcoming draft,

888
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: because next week is at the NFL Combine and what

889
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: we're gonna get there, I'm gonna ask you to and

890
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: then I'm gonna venture off of football. One last question,

891
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: what do you personally want to accomplish at this year's

892
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: NFL Combine?

893
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: I want to pick the brains of some other and

894
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: I love doing this every year, but you pick the

895
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: brains of other beat writers? Who are there? Guys I know,

896
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: you know women I know who cover certain teams around

897
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: the league. Just hey, what what is this? What are

898
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: you thinking? Like you kind of get information that way

899
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: to kind of set you up for whatever may come

900
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks down the road. Sure, you know,

901
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: is is this team going to keep this guy? You

902
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: know what? What does your team think about this player?

903
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: Could this player be available in a trade? Just like

904
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You hear a lot of that stuff.

905
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: I'll be you know, probably making some poor late night

906
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: decisions going out with my you know, my combine. Nothing

907
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: too crazy, but you know, like last year I saw

908
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: Von Miller at like one am at the j W

909
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: Marriott Bar high velocity. Yeah, not high velocity, the classier

910
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: bar in the JW. I like, I love high velocity.

911
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a time other than and GW, you're going

912
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: to be hustling all week. Yeah.

913
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 4: I am looking forward to sitting down with some of

914
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 4: the national media and just getting their perspectives on the

915
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 4: job that Shane did this last year. What they're looking

916
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 4: forward to from him going into a second season. Maybe

917
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 4: they're questions surrounding Anthony Richardson and you know what they're

918
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 4: wanting to see from him as guys come back in

919
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 4: the building when you get into that critical period of

920
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 4: you know, OTAs in mini camp and you know the

921
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 4: outlook for him. And then I think overall, too, what's

922
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 4: the perspective on the AFC South going into twenty twenty.

923
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: Four, right, Like what a wild division with where no.

924
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks one year and then the next year the worst

925
00:41:59,040 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: division in the league.

926
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 4: One way, the way Houston went into the playoffs, the

927
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: way Jacksonville went you know out of the playoffs, what

928
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 4: happens in Tennessee. So many things they're new head coach.

929
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 4: We know what are they doing with their quarterback situation?

930
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 4: Tannehill's on the market? Are they you know, rolling with

931
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 4: Will Levis from here on out? So I think that

932
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 4: those are all intriguing things too, because we are also

933
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 4: looking intrinsically here right and internally at what's happening. But

934
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 4: it's also, man, how do we stack up against the

935
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 4: rest of the division, And then well, what's the rest

936
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 4: of the AFC look like?

937
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: Obviously you know the chiefs are.

938
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 4: On this dynasty run right now, you know, how is

939
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 4: everyone else positioning theirselves to challenge?

940
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: That'll be a great day. Hey, I'm gonna be pulling

941
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: as many people, and I'm gonna be bothering YouTube down there,

942
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: and we're gonna be pulling people trying to get them

943
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: on podcasts. That's the funnest part I like about it.

944
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: That and I will have one of those four days

945
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Speaker 2: that I'm down there a Shapiro's DELI visit. Okay, Well,

946
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: I love that, And I might have to grab you

947
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: guys one, yes, I will if we don't talk.

948
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: I've never HD Shapiro's.

949
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely never ha A exchange out that staple. As

950
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned. As far as Deli's in Indianapolis,

951
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: the best is Shapiro. Speaking of the best, we had

952
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: an NBA All Star weekend recently. I'm gonna start with

953
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: you. You went, if memory serves, you went on Saturday night.

954
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: Did to All Star Saturday Night at Lucas Oil State.

955
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: Tell me about it.

956
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: The court was really cool.

957
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I I was up.

958
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: I was up in the five hundred level. The tickets,

959
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: you know, the tickets were given to me. So I'm

960
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: not gonna be like, oh, so high up. It was great.

961
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: The three point contest was awesome. The skills competition was

962
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: better than I thought. But the Steph for Sabrina, that

963
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: was the best one. Yeah, that was And I mean Sabrina,

964
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: I ask you put up a score that would have

965
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: tied Damian Lillard to win the actual three point contest.

966
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: It's just still happened that Steph Curry. You know, he's

967
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: and like what that like drama of like Steph misses

968
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: a couple, then he gets on a hot streak and

969
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: then he misses one, and then he hits one from

970
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: the you know, lemon lime cola range or whatever it is. Uh,

971
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: and then like that was fun. The dunk contest was

972
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: super lame.

973
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: It was that was bad and the two hundred points

974
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: that they scored and stuff and absolutely no defense. And

975
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: then yeah, I was just talking about Karl Anthony town

976
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: scoring fifty points in an All Star game and not

977
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 2: getting the MVP and stuff like that.

978
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 4: How exciting was Tyree's Haliburton when he was just draining

979
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 4: him he scored like fifteen.

980
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: Watched none of the game last night, so that was

981
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: just And when they won the team competition that you

982
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: that was fun. That was awesome because they guaranteed it.

983
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: I tweeted during the skills competition that I didn't expect

984
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: to be hooting and hollering during the team skills competition.

985
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: That was fun.

986
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: Hey, we got blanketed by snow when everybody was coming in,

987
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: but then you know, by Sunday it was fifty degrees

988
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 2: out so, by the way, typical Indiana weather.

989
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: But you know, not many other cities put on big

990
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: events like the city of Indianapolis go and as well

991
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: as the City of Indianapolis does. I this was surprising

992
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 1: to me. We built in uh like a probably thirty

993
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: minutes of extra time for an uber to the stadium

994
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: on Saturday and we got right down there. We got

995
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: dropped off a block from the stadium, walked in. Oh

996
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: that was great, it was easy. That was incredible, perfect,

997
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: that's well done. Yeah, all right, Colts.

998
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: Uh you know, like I said, next week at the

999
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: Pint Combine, we're gonna be down there, Colts. So we're

1000
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: gonna have a bunch of people covering stuff that little

1001
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: mini radio row there they do, which is a lot

1002
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Speaker 2: of fun seeing familiar faces. We're coming at you next

1003
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 2: week from down there. The Official Colts Podcast today brought

1004
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Speaker 2: you by our friend Kevin Connor, who is behind the

1005
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Speaker 2: camera today. We wanted to wish him a thank you

1006
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Speaker 2: very much. Guys. I can't wait to find out about

1007
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: that because, uh, this isn't very the the low doldrums

1008
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Speaker 2: of the NFL season, though we're calling it that because

1009
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Speaker 2: it is so. I mean, once you get into Le

1010
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: Lucas Oil Stadium next week and on that Monday morning

1011
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: walking into that thing, you know it's on. You know,

1012
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: it's like you're counting down days till Westfield till training

1013
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: can start. So that's what I'm excited about. So anyway, guys,

1014
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Speaker 2: I know we're gonna be busy I appreciate the time today, Kevin,

1015
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Speaker 2: thank you for your help, thanks for watching. Colts dot

1016
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Speaker 2: com has all of the information that you need on

1017
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: this upcoming combine, as well as the dates that you

1018
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Speaker 2: need free agency and such. Obviously we're talking about the

1019
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Speaker 2: Colts players and watching the latest with Michael Pittman Junior

1020
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Speaker 2: included in that group. So I'm excited. Guys. I appreciate

1021
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Speaker 2: you sitting down and talking, and I will bring you

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Speaker 2: a Shapiro's Deli sandwich. I don't know what damn going down,

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Speaker 2: but it's gonna happen anything before we close out here.

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Speaker 1: No, I just no cheese on mine.

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Speaker 2: No cheese on the stank of It's Deli sandwich for

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Speaker 2: Lara Overton, for JJ's thank itz. This is the official

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Speaker 2: Colts podcast, and again find all the info that you

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Speaker 2: need on Colts dot com and of course the Colts

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. You can find what you need on Colts

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Speaker 2: dot com as usual. Thanks for watching. We'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you next week from downtown at the Combine