1 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jettie and Pee. 4 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: Armstrong, Eddy. 5 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Not Live from studio c Armstrong and Geddy. We're off 6 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks. We're taking a break. Come on, 7 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: you get a break, We get a break. We'll be 8 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: back live for twenty five and as. 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: Long as we're off, perhaps you'd like to catch up 10 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 3: on podcasts, subscribe to Armstrong and Getty on demand, or 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: one more thing we think you'll enjoy it. 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: Sir, I went to god Zilla minus one over the weekend. 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: Had you all heard of that? Katie, Joe, Michael, anybody 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: have you ever even heard of that? 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 4: Never heard of it? I missed that one. 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not getting the publicity that normally a blockbuster 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: movie like a Godzilla or King Kong would get because 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: it's not that kind of a movie at all. I 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: just heard that there actually is. Our friend Tim Sanderfer, 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 2: who is a man of letters, had twenty six of them, 21 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: had impressive, had tweeted out that this is the this 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: is finally a great monster movie. Godzilla mines one thought, oh, okay, cool, 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: and I was still just picturing like a regular Like 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: we've seen all the god Zilla movies, the modern ones, 25 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: all the King Kong movies. We've seen Godzilla versus King Kong. 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: We've seen Megaladon one and two, which are the stupidest 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: movies ever made. They're they're they're they're basically Shark Nato 28 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: with a giant shark. More expensive cast, yeah, more expensive actors, 29 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: but that's I was kind of picturing that, but like 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: maybe better, but no, it's not at all. Godzilla Minus 31 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: one is a Japanese movie subtitles black and white, and 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: it's a hardcore art film. It's like the sort of 33 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: thing they would make you watch in a college class 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: and then you'd have to write a paper about it. 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: It's way closer to that than a blockbuster movie, and 36 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: so you don't hear as much about it. And it 37 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: was huge in Japan. It's doing pretty well in the 38 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: United States. It has had some Oscar nominations. I don't 39 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: know how to explain it minus one. I guess it's 40 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: a translation thing. It means Japan was so far beaten 41 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: down at the end of World War Two that they 42 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: were like below World something. That's what the minus one means. 43 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: And this movie is featured at the very end of 44 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: World War Two and the aftermath, when we had just 45 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: reduced it to rubble, even before we dropped to the 46 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: atomic bombs, it was rubble. And it's featured in Tokyo mostly, 47 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: and they're just people living like cavemen, the people that 48 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: are still alive, scrounging for food, trying to push some 49 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: boards and rocks together to have something to keep you 50 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: out of the rain. You know, you're by yourself because 51 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: your whole family's dead, and you team up with some 52 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: old lady who the rest of her family is dead, 53 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: and you try to make a go of it. 54 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 3: Is this a comedy. 55 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: It's a comedy sort of in line with like sort 56 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: of The Three Stooges meets Jim Carrey. 57 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No. 58 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 2: It is not a comedy obviously, and starring Will Ferrell 59 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: exactly a lot of Will Ferrell makes a comedy cameo. 60 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: Jack Black plays a prominent role. 61 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: Nice. 62 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: Now it's a very heavy movie and uh long, parts 63 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: of it are silent. There's not a sound, no music, 64 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: nobody talking, no nothing, And it's so quiet in the theater. 65 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: It's just like weird. I don't think I've ever been 66 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: to a movie that got silent for that long before. 67 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, that's that's interesting. 68 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: And I'm not going to try to describe it because 69 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: I couldn't, but just making the point that by the 70 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: climactic scene, where like with all Godzilla King Kong movies, 71 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: you know it's time to finally, like really confront the 72 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: monster with your best plan to bring him down and 73 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: save humanity. You know that has featured in all of 74 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: those Megalodon or Jaws or whatever. When it gets to 75 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: that final scene, you feel way more like you're watching 76 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: Saving Private Ryan or Band of Brothers or something. Then 77 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: you do a monster movie. I mean, like the director 78 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: managed to make it like you don't even think about 79 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: it being Godzilla in a giant radioactive creature that can 80 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: stomp on people and crushed buildings somehow, like that doesn't 81 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: even matter anymore. It's all about humanity in wartime and 82 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: sticking together and overcoming adversity and just you know, it's 83 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: just it's hard to explain. I thought it was phenomenal 84 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: and no longer seems it doesn't even seem weird that 85 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: you're like tugging at my heartstrings. Is it a Godzilla movie? 86 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 87 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, that's such an interesting like union of being 88 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: invested in characters and how that affects your willingness to 89 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: suspend disbelief. 90 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yes, that is exactly it. 91 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 3: I think that was like the Harry Potter formula, although 92 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: that's obviously fantasy and everybody knows it well. 93 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: And this was as gritty, realistic as any movie I've 94 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: ever seen. And it featured a giant monster that can 95 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 2: crush buildings under its feet, which doesn't seem like it'd 96 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: be possible in terms of the theater going experience. And 97 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 2: there was hardly anybody at this Saturday night seven o'clock. 98 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: I think there were a total of ten people in there. Wow, 99 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: because nobody's heard of it, and that's an art film. 100 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: And my youngest kid didn't like it much. He didn't 101 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: like the reading. There's a lot of reading really fast 102 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: and his reading is not quite up to and a 103 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: lot of really hard words, so he just couldn't quite 104 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 2: keep up with it. But my eighth grader love it, 105 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: thought it was really really good. It was it was 106 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: a powerful movie, but the whole movie going experience in 107 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: the modern world everybody's got such a great TV with 108 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: a cool sound system. You got that whole thing. Although 109 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: I've noticed this before, I have walked out of many 110 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: movie theaters in my life, like rattled in some way, 111 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: either like you know, down emotionally or inspired emotionally, or 112 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: fired up emotionally or something like that. And I don't 113 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: know if that ever happens when I watch on TV. 114 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: I think it probably does. 115 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: I think being at home, you get back to your 116 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 3: set point a lot more quick. 117 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: You think that's it. 118 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 4: Well, and you have control to turn it off and 119 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: change it. 120 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: But I always feel like I always feel like a 121 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: walk out of movie theaters and everybody's quiet because they're 122 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: just like so affected by what you saw in one 123 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: way or another. And I never feel that way at home. 124 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 5: Hm. 125 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: Really, I don't think anyway. 126 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: Maybe there's a I think there's something about and I 127 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 3: think I was right the first time. When you leave 128 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: a movie, other than like zipping up your jacket, all 129 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: you're doing is walking to your. 130 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: Putting on my shoes, putting on my shoes, because I 131 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: take off my shoes and socks put them on the 132 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: seat in front of me. That guy, No, I do not, 133 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: But that's funny. 134 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: So even if you're checking your phone or whatever, you 135 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: have three to five minutes where you're doing nothing but 136 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: thinking about what you've just s Maybe that's it. Whereas 137 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: you know, you turn off the TV at home and 138 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: then you go. 139 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: Do something and get the kids to bed or whatever. 140 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah. 141 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: Uh, but the dude did when your kids were younger, 142 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: did you buy them treats to go to the movie occasionally? See, 143 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: I grew up in a family where we never did. 144 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: It wasn't even a consideration. It's like, we're not getting 145 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: that stuff because it's too expensive. That's fine, Yep, already eight. 146 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: I'm not thirsty. If I'm thirsty, I'll go get a 147 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: drink of water at the drinking vun. 148 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 4: I knew a family that would hide the treats and 149 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 4: mom's purse. 150 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: But you know I used to bring we'd smuggle in 151 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: uh popcorn in our pockets. Sometimes. 152 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: I used to bring beer to the movies all the time. 153 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: You gotta wait for a loud part. You gotta wait 154 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: for God's willa to scream before we open your beer. 155 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: If you open your beer during the silent, is the 156 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: baby gonna die? Or not seen. 157 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 4: Your girl has mastered. Opening a bottle of champagne a movie. 158 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: Nice style points. 159 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: I remember one time when I kicked over my empty 160 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: bottle of beer and it rolled all the way down, 161 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: clicking it, clicking it click, oh yeah. 162 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 6: And then what you do is you start looking around, 163 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 6: like what is that you're who is doing that? 164 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: Somebody brought in some unauthorized food or drink And. 165 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 3: I can't wait. If somebody would do that and I'll 166 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: see it. 167 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: I think we should pause the movie and go through 168 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: everybody's pockets until we can find out who this mister 169 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: into is. But I think I am gonna tell my kids, 170 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: mostly for the noise reason, partly for the money reason. No, 171 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 2: we're not doing this next time. Let's eat before we go. 172 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: We can even stop and get a treat, but we're 173 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: not gonna buy stuff at the theater. 174 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: One. 175 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to listen to you eating and drinking. 176 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: Oh right. If I took the drink away from one 177 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: of my kids, like doneough, because he kept doing the 178 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 2: at the bottom, you know, trying to get the last 179 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: two SIPs through the ice thing, like yeah, you quit. 180 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: I took it out of his hand and put it 181 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: in my cup. 182 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 6: O you blessed every other person with the same sound 183 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 6: issue in that in that theater. 184 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 2: That right, So between the noise the cost, we spent 185 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: fifty bucks at the concession stand. Jeez, that's nuts with 186 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: the modern inflation. Yeah, two kids. I got smalls, but 187 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: I got in the largest. 188 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 5: I don't know. 189 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: I had to get a loan. I had to apply 190 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: for a loan, and somebody had to be there to 191 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 2: fill out my paperwork and look at my credit score. 192 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: So if this movie is successful, they've got to, you know, 193 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: continue the theme. And I you know, on the radio show, 194 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: I it's throughout the idea King Cang it ant eat 195 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 3: them then, I don't know, maybe sas Squatch in a 196 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: house fire where a family loses their house and he 197 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 3: takes them in or eats them, or I. 198 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: Don't know, if Frankenstein's list, if Frankenstein had done Shindler's List. 199 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: There you go. 200 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: Now you're thinking, yeah, I'd watch it. 201 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I told people, and I got a date. I said, 202 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: it's way closer to Dos Boot than it is to 203 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: King Kong. 204 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: Right. Count Dracula is a gifted cancer doctor, but he 205 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: has a blood addiction. Right, But he's noble, but he 206 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: just can't. He's a junkie. 207 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, something like that. 208 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be a hit. 209 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: The Mummy in Philadelphia. So you got the dying Aids 210 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: guy and the Mummy. 211 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: Yeah they're hanging out together. 212 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, plot twist solving crimes or something. 213 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: They're actually lovers who soft crimes. 214 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show. 215 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: The teos was too many pansy ass kids. This is 216 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: referring to this particular mom who went on the screed 217 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: in her kitchen with a glass of wine in her hand. 218 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 7: I got a call from my kid's assistant principal today 219 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 7: because he and his other friend were playing soccer with 220 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 7: this other kid at recess. The other kid happened to 221 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 7: want to be the goalie and apparently he sucked, and 222 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 7: so he got really upset because the other boys kept 223 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 7: scoring goals on him. And there was no teasing involved. 224 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 7: I verified, it was just he was so upset that 225 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 7: the kids kept scoring goals that he went to the 226 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 7: teacher and cried about it, and my kid and the 227 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 7: other kid got brought to the principal's office. Do not 228 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 7: call me because some soft ass kids feelings got hurt 229 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 7: because some kid is better than him at sports. Stop 230 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 7: coddling your kids, especially your sons, because let me tell 231 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 7: you right now, what no woman wants someday is to 232 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 7: have to coddle their fire husband. Stop raising pansy ass kids. 233 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 7: Teach your kids how to be confident in themselves and 234 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 7: how to emotionally freaking figure their out, and stop with 235 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 7: the bs. 236 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: We got this text in response to playing that earlier. 237 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love that recording you just played. 238 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: This is so true. Mike Kids' school has a no 239 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: running on the playground rule. 240 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: Wow. 241 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 2: Always what Mike. 242 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: Spy is that I could I could throw on the 243 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: black bandana and slit throats to quote H. L. Menkin 244 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: over that. 245 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 4: No, I'm just missing something. 246 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: No, you're not too dangerous. My kids' school they don't 247 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: have it all the time, but if it has rained 248 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: anytime in the last week, you're not allowed to run 249 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 2: because the grass could be do it. 250 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: I think I'm a fascist for even talking about this. 251 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: According to something I read, but when we conduct the 252 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: great experiment of conservatives get half the country and progressives 253 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: get the other half, and we see how it goes, 254 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: there's going to be all the run and you I 255 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: almost dropped an F bomb, which I can't I suppose, 256 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: but I'd prefer not too. You can run all the 257 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: f and much you want. In conservative America. Kids go 258 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: out there, play soccer, skin your knees, get sweaty, get 259 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: to blow off steam. Then we'll get back to school 260 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 3: and learn, and well we'll compare test scores at the 261 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 3: end of it. Bitches. Huh. 262 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: We used to love the play soccer on wet fields 263 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 2: and we would slide in the Yeah, well it was 264 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: part of the fun. 265 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 4: Even after it would rain on the on the cement outside. 266 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 6: We used to run and pretend we were skateboarding and 267 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 6: try to see who could slide the farthest. 268 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 4: Oh, I got my I hurt myself so many times 269 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 4: doing that. 270 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 3: But it was a blood none of that, None of 271 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 3: that anymore. Good lord, think of the liability, Katie, you 272 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: maniac god. 273 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: And we played kill the man with the ball and 274 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: the poorn rain all the time, and I mean that 275 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 2: was a violent game. 276 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 6: You know. 277 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: I realized people are self selecting and to some extent anyway, 278 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: and I'm. 279 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: Not exactly a Navy seal. 280 00:13:55,240 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: Nor I please what uh, but uh, people are self 281 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: selecting to some extent anyway, But I so want to 282 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: figure out a way to do this because they're like schools, 283 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: charter schools, like the John Adams Academy, and there are 284 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 3: other examples that like do school the way school ought 285 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: to be done, and you can run all you want 286 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: at recess and you learn and you learn the important 287 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: stuff and you behave in class and the kids come 288 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: out all smart and educated. It works. It works. And 289 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: the fact that government union schools now don't work, as 290 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 3: you know, an indictment on them. But I would love 291 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: to start some sort of I don't know, colony or outpost. 292 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: I guess it's called idoh Conservatania, and there would be 293 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 3: no ugliness, no racism, no, you know, it would not 294 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: be some sort of you know Mika Brazinski's fever dream 295 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 3: of what a conservative place would be. Everybody would get 296 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: their constitutional rights and by god, we would enforce that 297 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: and if you break anybody's rights, we break your neck. 298 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: But anyway, I would so love to conduct that experiment. 299 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to see it play out. Also, 300 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: so she finishes up, my son got sent to the 301 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: office and received a citation for running on the playground. 302 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: So there's that issue that's mostly to do with lawyers 303 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: and the way our court system works and juries. So 304 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: I don't even know what to do about that because 305 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: the school would tell you. Look, I think it's freaking 306 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: stupid too, But we are just told we're going to 307 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: lose our insurance policy if we let kids run in 308 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: the school in school and get to anybody gets hurt. 309 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: So what are you going to do so that? I 310 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: hate that for that's own thing, then you have this 311 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: different topic. The school also told the kids they are 312 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: no longer allowed to play kickball because the kids spent 313 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: so much time arguing about the kids cheating. Way to 314 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: teach the kids, not how to work through conflict. That's 315 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: not the lawyers or the insurance company. That's the We 316 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: think conflict is always bad, and so we're going to 317 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: solve the conflict by not letting them play. They do 318 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: this at my kid's school too. Like when I was 319 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: a kid, a lot of us would bring our own nerve, football, 320 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: our own ball or bat or whatever. You're not allowed 321 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: to bring any sporting equipment because one kids might fight 322 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: over it, or you might have a nicer football than 323 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: the other kid does, and that'd make them feel bad 324 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff. 325 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: I know. We're doomed, Katie, We're doomed as a society. 326 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: So they have a limited number they have a limited 327 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: number of balls, and there's like three and whoever gets 328 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: to him first gets to play during recess with him, 329 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: and nobody else gets. 330 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 6: To Okay, I apologize for taking it back to this place. 331 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 6: But so all of this is going on. But these 332 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 6: kids can decide to identify as something else or right all. 333 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, you can. You can change into a 334 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: different sex, a secret be can't run in the yard. 335 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, you can make moves to mess them up hormonally 336 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 6: for the rest of their lives. 337 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 4: But don't you run on that wet grass. 338 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty amazing that those two things are happening 339 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: at the same time. 340 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 5: You know. 341 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: Speaking of which, and here's a preview of a screed 342 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 3: you'll hear on the air in the next day or two. 343 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 3: There are some fairly high profile lawsuits that are going 344 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: to go the right way against the gender bending, cruel 345 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 3: experiments on kid's crowd. They're going to bring him to 346 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: their knees and we need more and more and more 347 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: of that. These And I don't mean to seem like 348 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 3: I'm gloating because it's tragedy, but some of the victims 349 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 3: of these ideological lunatics are starting to move into adulthood 350 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 3: and realize what's been done to them and are not 351 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: happy about it. It can't happen. 352 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: Fast enough, Jack Armstrong and Joe Fretty The Armstrong and 353 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: Getty Show. 354 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 3: Before we get to the great Tony Bennett National Treasure, 355 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: I'm told this is Roger Waters of the Pink Floyd 356 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 3: as they were known in London, with a new version 357 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: of his classic from Dark Side of the Moon Money, 358 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: Michael Money. Wow, you're right. It is kind of Leonard cohenesque. 359 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: Yuh more may and you Okay. 360 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: That's a great song. It's kind of a weird version 361 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 3: of it. You know, Roger Waters is ancient and nuts. 362 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: Can we just acknowledge that he sounds like he's gonna 363 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: kill me in my sleep? 364 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: Is that? 365 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: What is he going for? 366 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: Cash? If he knew your politics, he probably would. Okay, 367 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 3: I suppose that's enough of that. That's weirdly appealing. Honestly, Look, 368 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 3: he's a brilliant artist. He's always been all kind of quirky. 369 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 3: Now he's ancient nuts. It doesn't diminish what he's done. 370 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: I don't hate him for it. He's wrong about a 371 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 3: lot of stuff. But you know, if you're a conservative 372 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 3: and Jack, I'm sure you'd agree, Katie, anybody if you 373 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 3: eliminated all of your favorite creative artists because their politics 374 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: were wacky, it would leave you with a fairly narrow 375 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 3: range of things to listen to, right. 376 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 2: Sure we should shut. 377 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 3: Up about it, though, Yeah, he could do that, except 378 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 3: for I guess country music is the bastion of at 379 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 3: least some conservatism. I don't listen to much modern country. 380 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: If you were to like take a wild guest jacket, 381 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 3: it's a political orientation like percentage wise or however you 382 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: want to. 383 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: Put on such a lot of musicians, I still would 384 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: bet it's overwhelming left, overwhelmingly left leaning, I would. 385 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 3: Guess, hmm, yeah, Well, or do they just act like 386 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 3: that so that they don't get canceled? 387 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 5: Yeah? 388 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: They probably know. You got to keep it to yourself. 389 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: As the guitar player with Miranda Lambert who voted for 390 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders, I'm sure I don't know that, but I mean, 391 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure you'd have to keep it to yourself. I'm 392 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: sure you pick up on that pretty quickly. 393 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 3: But a lot of those like pickup truck, I'm a 394 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 3: best girl by the lake drinking beer. That strikes me 395 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 3: as kind of maga ish. I don't have any idea, Yeah, 396 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 3: which is fine when I was there in my pickup truck. 397 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: I never had a pickup truck with my best girl 398 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 3: by the lake. It may have been by lake, yes, 399 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 3: by Lake Michigan, drinking beer, check and make it out, 400 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 3: et cetera. It's funny. Our politics didn't come up, so 401 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: who cares anyway. Speaking of ancient singers, the great Tony 402 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 3: Bennett has passed. Perhaps you heard that five hundred times overrated. 403 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: I thought he was fine, that's exactly. He had a 404 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 3: long career, and he had a really, really long career. 405 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: It's like Tina Turner, who was amazingly talented, especially in 406 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 3: her younger days, but it became one of those things 407 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: where the longer she lived. Oh and she had a 408 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: great story of courage and overcoming abuse and the rest 409 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: of it. I'm not demeaning her as a person or 410 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 3: a performer at all, but if you're around long enough, 411 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: you get like this sainthood thing put on. 412 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 2: Here's why I don't like Tony Bennett and Katie, You're 413 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: you're no enough to the show. You don't know. It's 414 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: kind of my thing to say negative things about people 415 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 2: who just passed, which really makes people angry. 416 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 417 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, wow, Jack too soon. 418 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: I just beg him let a day go by. But no, 419 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 3: I gotta stick in the knife. 420 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 2: I don't know why that is. I just I need 421 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: to point it out the day they die. I just 422 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: thought I just said it was so weak. Tony Bennett, 423 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: you we know you left your heart in San Francisco. 424 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: We've known that quirre quite a few decades. Just do something, 425 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 2: do something else. Just quit quit with that all the time. Well, 426 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: a lot of my favorite arts, you have a big 427 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 2: hit when you're younger, and then you move on to 428 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: completely different things, maybe like reinvent yourself completely, not just 429 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: do the same freaking thing over and over and over 430 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: every show you're ever on until you're too old. 431 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: But walk what ever. He became a painter. He's a 432 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 3: pretty good painter. 433 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 2: But good for him. 434 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 3: Again, if you want to hear him warble the old 435 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 3: songs or team up with Lady Gaga, go ahead. It's 436 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: just a whole Oh my god, Tony Bennett. Oh my god, 437 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 3: he's such a such a legend. It's like he's a singer. 438 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: It's fine, he's a good singer, but that's all he is. 439 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: Was he a nice fella? Tell me about it? 440 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 6: What do you do all these people that when there's 441 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 6: a celebrity death, their day gets ruined like they personally 442 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 6: knew them. 443 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty hard for me. That doesn't happen 444 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 2: very often with me. What was I going to say? 445 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: What he died from time? 446 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, being ancient, Yeah, yeah, Michael tells us that, 447 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: let's see, this is a he was on the first 448 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 3: Tonight Show episode. Let's hear that clip number five. 449 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 5: There's one of the great singers in the world. I 450 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 5: think Frank Sinatrom once said about Tony, he is the 451 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 5: greatest singer in the world. And he was a guest 452 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 5: of mine on the very first show we did October one, 453 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 5: nineteen sixty two, out of New. 454 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 3: York from New York Show Johnny, Johnny's. 455 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 5: Guest Tonight or John Robert Ruddy Valley. 456 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: Tony mel Rock. You remember the very first show? 457 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, very well. 458 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 3: It was a great exciting night like Tonight. 459 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 5: It was, you know, you were on the show with 460 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 5: the late Joan Crawford, Rudy Valley and mel Brooks. 461 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: Mel Brooks, it seems like a long time ago. It 462 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: was a long time ago. And is uh six just 463 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: part of that, Michael, Or is that different? I know 464 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: it's different, just Larry King. Oh, I'm sorry it has. 465 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: I've gained four notes on the bottom and thank god 466 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm sixty six, but the top. 467 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 3: No losses on the top. The great Tony Bennett. 468 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 5: We're gonna pause, mister Bennett, the singer singers, so not 469 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 5: to call him the best. 470 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 3: I mean he lived forever. 471 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 2: That's interesting. So I got older and he got the 472 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: ability to sing lower notes but didn't lose any of 473 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 2: us high end. 474 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 3: I didn't know that was a thing. Good for good 475 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 3: for him. He's a good singer. I've conceded that. 476 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 2: Johnny Carson in nineteen sixty two. 477 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow. The only defense I can make of being 478 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 3: like sad when ah a celebrity passes if you're especially 479 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: I mean, if you really really admired them and thought 480 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: they had more to do and or that. It's just 481 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 3: sometimes it's a slap in the face that reminds you 482 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: of mortality, right or in the Third, although I tend 483 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 3: not to like wallow around in Nostalgia's just not the 484 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 3: way I'm made. Although you know I have no right to, 485 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 3: I guess criticize people who do. But sometimes it reminds 486 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: you of what I was discussing with my daughter over 487 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 3: the weekend. We had a bit of a family reunion. 488 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 3: I talked on the air about my brother's retirement ceremony 489 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: from the Navy, and my daughter was talking about going 490 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: back to the town she grew up in and seeing 491 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 3: that the park they used to hang up with hang 492 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 3: out in rather is now surrounded by apartment buildings, and 493 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: it didn't used to be in that beautiful hillside is 494 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 3: now a parking lot, and the past isn't there anymore. 495 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 3: And sometimes you're reminded of that, and because you have 496 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 3: this weird feeling that all you have to do is 497 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 3: go back and visit it. Anybody who's ever gone to 498 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 3: a class reunion knows that the past ain't there anymore. 499 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: It's gone. And sometimes when one of your beloved you know, 500 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 3: artists or creative artists or whatever from your youth goes, 501 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 3: you realize that's that's right, my youth is gone. And 502 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: Nate coming back. 503 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: Ever, can you come up with a celebrity whose death 504 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: would affect you, like really affect would or has either? 505 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: When when Neil Pierre, the drummer from Rush and Lyricists, died, 506 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: I knew that band was dead forever and one of 507 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 3: the great musicians ever on earth was gone. And I thought, 508 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: oh crap. I mean, it's not like I was devastated. 509 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 3: It was just sad. 510 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: Oh crap. It's not the same as like like our 511 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: old newsperson. She once said that if Madonna dies, I 512 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 2: will have to take the next day off of work. 513 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 6: Right, That's the reaction that I was kind of going with, 514 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 6: like the people that go straight to the internet and post, 515 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 6: oh god, you know, I don't know. 516 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 3: No, I'm not big on making a show of my 517 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: grief either, But no, I don't think so. I mean, 518 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about my musical heroes because they don't particularly 519 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: give a damn about actors. I mean, they're really good 520 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 3: at their jobs, but I don't think they're saints either. No, 521 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 3: my greatest musical heroes, if they pass, I'll just be 522 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 3: sad and think, you know, that's too bad. 523 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: Who's what's the name of the you know what I mean? 524 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 2: Vern guy. 525 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the one that hit me. Jim Varney. 526 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 3: Jim Jim Earnest Arnest What Ernest? Was that his character? 527 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 4: That's his character? 528 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, right right, the great. Let me try this again. 529 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: We can edit this and post the Great Jim Ernest Varney. 530 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 3: His passing was devastating. 531 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 2: Can you come up with one Katie celebrity that would 532 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: affect you? 533 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 6: I think well, the one that the one that I 534 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 6: really I was sad about was Robin Williams. That one 535 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 6: was brutal because I mean I grew up my mom 536 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 6: and I told you the Hello from Missus, doubtfire and 537 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 6: stuff like that, So I mean I grew up with 538 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 6: those movies. 539 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 4: That one, That one hit. 540 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: Well, and he was young and his death was was terrible. 541 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 542 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 3: So on a human level, yeah, Okay, I'm trying to 543 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 3: think anybody else. I mean Jack, I mean, if you 544 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 3: but that would be more. 545 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if you guys died, that would be 546 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 4: a bummer. 547 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: On a number of levels, more of a practical difficulty. 548 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom has prayed for that, but has so far unfulfilled. Nope, No, 549 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 3: I would be sad like if speaking of Rush if 550 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 3: Geedty Lee died it was one of my greatest musical heroes. 551 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 3: That would be very sad, but I'll go on, I'll 552 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 3: still show up for work. 553 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 2: I wonder if that does coincide with views of the world. 554 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: I'll bet it does. I'll bet it does too. I mean, 555 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: the other the flip side of it, sure sounds right, 556 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: the lefty worship of well musicians and writers and actors, 557 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 2: And you don't tend to if you're more conservative in 558 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 2: your politics. You don't tend to worship these people in 559 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: the first place. So you kind of have to worship 560 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: in the first place to have to get super busted 561 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: up when they die. 562 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, are you a rationalist or an emotionalist? And 563 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 3: emotions are good and healthy, and obviously you need to 564 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: be rational, But I think some people are one or 565 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: the other. I've always said that. One of the reasons 566 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 3: I'm so adamant about not letting emotionalists take over government 567 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 3: and the Constitution and the courts and the rest of 568 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 3: it is I'm enough of one to know how crazy 569 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 3: that would be if the rationalist part of us loses control. 570 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 3: Were doomed. Like I always say, compassion without order is chaos. 571 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: In order without compassion is brutality. We don't want either 572 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: one of those. 573 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. The Armstrong and Getty Show. 574 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: Used to be that the moron nobody's of the world. 575 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: Didn't have a TV studio, didn't have a broadcast tower, 576 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 3: didn't have a distribution deal. But now everybody does, which 577 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 3: is actually kind of entertaining at times, and some fabulous 578 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 3: talent is you know, come to people's attention. On the 579 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: other hand, you got your TikTok where jackasses and freaks 580 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,479 Speaker 3: and weirdos of every description are sharing their freak azoid 581 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: weird onness with you, and often it's annoying, sometimes it's amusing, 582 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: sometimes it's educational. I haven't heard this one yet, Michael 583 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 3: has described it to us. Does it need any introduction? Really, Michael? Actually, 584 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 3: I'm not familiar with this club, are you not? 585 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 7: No? 586 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: Did you find this? 587 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 588 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 4: This is one of mine. 589 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: Not really. 590 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 4: She's just walking through a neighborhood, runing her mouth. 591 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: And she's from Australia. Apparently. All right, let's listen to it. 592 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 8: I'm just gonna say it. There are too many American flags, 593 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 8: Like they're in houses, they're on cars, someone on couch cushions, 594 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 8: like I don't know who's making these American flags, but 595 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 8: they'd be making a bloody fortune. I'm like, you're the 596 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 8: only country that I know that does this. Like the 597 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 8: other time I think I've ever see an Australian flag 598 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 8: is like on the Harbor Bridge. Could not tell you 599 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 8: what it looks like. Like, I know it's like blue 600 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 8: and it's got some stars on it. But I think 601 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 8: I could draw the American flag from memory, Like I 602 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 8: think I could make a bloody sculpture out of it. 603 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 8: That's how many times I've seen it. It's enough. Let's 604 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 8: pull back on it, Okay, let's stay humble. 605 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 3: So I'm torn by twin impulses. Number one, you're an 606 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 3: ignorant amus. You're the young twit with a TikTok account. 607 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 3: Why would I dignify your stupidity with any sort of response. 608 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: She got kicked in the head bag kangaroo. Yeah, well played, Michael. 609 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 3: So that's one of my responses. And that's about run 610 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: fifty to fifty with explaining to her sweetheart, you're a 611 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 3: commonwealth of the Crown and Australia has some reasonably enlightened 612 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 3: twentyieth century Western ideas In it, and that's a nice 613 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 3: enough cut through. There are problems with your governance. But 614 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 3: I don't want to get into Australian politics, partly because 615 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 3: I don't give up. But what you need to understand, 616 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: my Aussie darling, is that the United States is the 617 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 3: first country ever formed not on a nationality, like an 618 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: actual you know, a community of people of the same 619 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 3: origin or faith or whatever. It was founded on a 620 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 3: set of ideas, and it succeeded wildly and became the 621 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 3: most important country maybe in the history of the world, 622 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 3: the Roman Empire, notwithstanding they lasted for quite a while, 623 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 3: but certainly in the modern ear And we're super duper 624 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 3: proud of not only our success but our ideas. We 625 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 3: feel like we've carved out a big, giant area where 626 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 3: the worst of humanity can't do its worst. We're oppressors 627 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 3: and kings and torturers and despots. We don't let them 628 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 3: in here. We have a set of principles and we 629 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 3: live by them, and everybody's got the opportunity to be 630 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 3: happy and successful. Australia is great, but it's nothing close 631 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: to what we're talking about. And I would suggest if 632 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 3: people aren't like super proud of Australia, they're kind of 633 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 3: just eh, well that that kind of that's the answer 634 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: that makes the question irrelevant. Y'all don't care? We do. 635 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 3: Why don't you spend a couple of minutes figuring out 636 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 3: why we all care so much? Why a lot of 637 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: us care so much? Right? 638 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 6: And if you think about her mentality behind making that video, 639 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 6: she obviously thought that she had a point, right, that 640 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 6: she wanted to get out there. 641 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, my advice to her, don't use like every third word. 642 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 6: Why does like America have like so many like bloody 643 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 6: flags like like like like like like like I don't 644 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 6: love ear blood. 645 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to call for the silencing of 646 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 3: people in their teens and early twenties, certainly speaking of 647 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 3: the principles by which we live here, First Amendment, etc. Woof. 648 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 4: I mean, that's a high horse Joe. 649 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 3: On the other hand, as I've said before, perhaps even 650 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 3: in my own offspring, Okay, you just walked into the giant, 651 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 3: vast shopping mall of ideas. You're literally in the lobby, 652 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: and you're explaining to me what all the best ideas are. 653 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 3: How about you walk around the mall for a few 654 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 3: years try some of those ideas, Kick them around, see 655 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 3: how they work out. Maybe even walk to the other 656 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 3: end of the mall and back before you start lecturing 657 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 3: people who've lived in the mall for a long time. 658 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 4: I like that a lot. I like that a lot. 659 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 3: Of course, the mall of ideas is shut down because 660 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 3: everybody's shopping for their ideas on the internet. Got Amazon, Yeah, exactly, exactly, 661 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 3: so many bloody flags like Marxists, shrimp on the Barbie eaten. 662 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I should I apologize. 663 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, look at Australia, what do you guys have a 664 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 6: lot of bloody spiders and bugs that make people not 665 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 6: even want to visit. 666 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, like literally, like the most animals like that can 667 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 3: kill you, like of any country on like Earth. Seriously, 668 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: look at the Crocodile Hunter r ip I always hated it. 669 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I always hated the Crocodile Dundee movies as well. 670 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:41,479 Speaker 3: Remember those. 671 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 4: By the way, have you seen his son? 672 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 6: His son is a miniature version of him doing the 673 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 6: exact same thing that his dad was doing. Total nature 674 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 6: conservation and whatnot, but a twin. It's amazing. 675 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, they ran the daughter up the flagpole for a while, 676 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: and I don't know if she didn't catch on or 677 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 3: didn't like it much or whatever. But yeah, the sun 678 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 3: is the spitting image of the late dad. 679 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, the daughter went off. 680 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 6: She had she got married and had a family and whatnot, 681 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 6: so she kind of went out of the limelight. But 682 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 6: the son, Robert is his name, Oh. 683 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 3: Bloody amazing, like right with his face right up next 684 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 3: to some sort of pit viper and all, and. 685 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 4: It bites him like, oh that's fun. 686 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 3: Oh no, I wonder why that happened. Typical lossy. I'm 687 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 3: back to being bitter. 688 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show. 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