WEBVTT - Isabelle Fuhrman 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:03.520 And you know, I think the ability to be alone 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:06.880 and play alone has kind of been my biggest asset 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:08.879 as a as an actor, but also as like a 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:12.159 person growing up. And maybe that's also, you know, an 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:14.040 attribute of some serial. 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:15.120 Killers being able to. 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:17.320 I don't know. 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:22.279 I'm just saying here, hide something for you. 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:30.320 Hi. 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:34.080 I'm Isabelle Ferban. I'm an actress and barbecue enthusiast. 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.600 Hi, everybody, thank you for joining me once again on 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:52.519 well my favorite podcast, Off the Beat. This is your host, 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:59.000 Brian Bomgartner. If you are a horror fan, well, guess 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:03.200 what you probably have known my guest since she was 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:09.679 ten years old. Isabelle Furman started her career very young 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:17.520 by being the absolutely terrifying Esther in the horror film Orphan. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:22.480 Since then, she has continued her reign of terror in 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:26.080 movies like Don't Let Me Go Down a Dark Hall, 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:30.720 The Novice, Stephen king Cell, and she even returned to 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:36.120 the role of Esther as an adult in Orphan First Kill. Yeah, 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:39.440 she was twenty five playing a nine year old. We 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:45.959 discussed that today and much much more. Isabelle also well, 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.360 she was a fan of the Hunger Games and we 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.600 were all a fan of the Hunger Games. She played 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:54.960 Clove in The Hunger Games, then Tessa in a series 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:59.520 I adored, Masters of Sex. Then she's even cleansed our palets, 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.880 if you will with some lighter fair salvation Boulevard Dear 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:07.080 eleanor Shiros. And now you can see her in The 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:15.040 Wild Wild, Western Epic Horizon and American Saga, Kevin Costner's 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.640 latest work. There will be four films. The first one 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.840 is out, the second one is right around the corner. 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.400 Isabelle and I grew up in Atlanta. We were both 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:29.280 Westminster Wildcats, and then we made our way to Hollywood 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.880 for this thing we call acting. I feel like we 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:38.280 can both still pass as children. Some may not agree 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:42.400 with me. There here she is. I have enjoyed getting 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:51.960 to know her today. Isabelle Furman. Everyone, Bubble and squeak. 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:54.040 I love it. 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:59.040 Bubble and Squeakna, bubble and squeak. 0:02:59.240 --> 0:02:59.640 Cook it. 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:14.560 From the people. What's up as a Belle? 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:16.400 What's up? How are you? 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:19.000 I'm good? How are you? 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.440 I'm great? I'm really excited to talk to you today. 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:29.000 Actually, well, I mean thank you one. I am excited 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:32.680 to talk to you. I've heard a lot about you. 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.440 You know full disclosure for those of you listening, we 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.600 we work with similar people, though to my knowledge we 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:39.880 have never met before. 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.040 Is this is this correct? 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.120 We've never before, but we do work with similar people. 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.040 So I'm glad that you've heard you've heard good things 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:48.800 about me, because I've heard great things about. 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.040 Our people. Are doing good jobs. 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.920 They're doing they're doing a good job. You know. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:04:01.160 I I have researchers. They deep dive into every corner 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:06.839 of your being, and on the document they apparently researched you, 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.520 but have forgotten about me. There's no acknowledgment about this. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:15.320 So let's you're born in Washington, d C. Yeah, you 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:19.520 moved to Atlanta. Yeah, and you attended. 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.280 The Westminster Schools. 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:28.760 Now, I attended the Westminster Schools as well. We're roughly 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.240 the same age, so we must have run into each 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:31.840 other there. 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:39.080 So you went to Westminster too, I did, Oh what 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:40.360 I mean, how long? 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:47.480 We don't ask? Don't ask? Okay, all right, well that 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.040 must be why you never heard of. 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.480 Me there, because you're only in elementary school. 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:56.520 I mean, I do you know? My intention was this 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:58.520 is a funny story. My intention was, it's not in 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:02.159 this room. My intention is to bring today to show 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.600 to you the Hall of Fame trophy that I had. 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.440 It's very large. In fact, it's so large it doesn't 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.920 fit on my shelf. My Hall of Fame trophy from 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:15.880 the Westminster Schools. But let's be honest. They gave it 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:17.960 to me. They gave it to me. You know, Ed 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.920 Helms went to the Westminster Schools as well, both of us, 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.200 and well so she knew. 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:25.480 That and now. 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:28.160 Oh got it, got it. 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:35.760 So you know, they they gave us awards basically so 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.039 they could raise money. 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.200 Let's be clear about this. I believe that the awards were. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.920 Not uh I don't know, I don't know what do 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.280 you call it. That It wasn't out of the kindness 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.080 of their heart. They were trying to raise some money. 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:51.120 But I have it, and I still have it. I 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:52.360 was going to show it to you, but you were 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:53.719 only there in elementary school. 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.679 Yeah, I was only a wildcat for a short time. 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:02.000 Wildcat. I'm surprised you remember wildcat. 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.719 I do because high School Musical was the first time 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.720 wildcats were like in a movie, and I remember being like, 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:13.280 but I'm a wildcat, a wildcat. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:18.560 A Westminster wildcat. So why only elementary. 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:26.239 School So when I went to Westminster, I was in first, second, 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:28.600 and third grade, and when I was in third grade, 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.839 shout out to Miss Milly Priles. That was when I 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:35.240 first went shout out Milly Priles. I went first went 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.479 to LA during my third grade year at Westminster, and 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:44.599 that was when I started acting. And Westminster actually was like, look, 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.479 you can't just leave in the middle of the year 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:51.359 for like two months to go and pursue your dreams. 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:52.800 Even if she's doing school work. 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.279 So they said that they would like hold a place 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.360 for me the following year if I wanted to leave 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.760 for fourth grade and then come back. And ended up 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.880 kind of negotiating a deal with my parents to go 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:07.080 to LA for a year and if nothing happened, I'd 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:08.680 just go back to being a wildcat. 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.240 And I ended up booking. 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:14.120 Orphan and Miss Millie Prile told me that I have 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.520 to give her a shout out because it's because of 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:20.040 her that she fought to allow you to go and 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.120 pursue my dream while I was installed in school. 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:26.400 So so you did, so you moved to LA. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.679 So you were that at that young of an age, 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:30.920 you knew what you wanted to do. 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:32.680 I feel like. 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:35.760 I've always known that this is what I wanted to do, 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:39.480 which is really crazy. My I have a I have 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.760 an older sister, and so anything that she did I 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.720 subsequently did because I was just the tag along. So 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.560 like she was going to be a professional professional tennis 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.200 player and then a swimmer and an ice skater and 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.120 I did all of that. But I started singing in 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:58.600 school at Westminster funny enough, and ended up doing musical theater. 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.400 And that was how I kind of got introduced to acting, 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:06.480 was through like a musical theater camp. And that musical 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:10.040 theater camp, one of the women who ran it was like, 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:14.000 you know, Cartoon Network in Atlanta is always casting kids 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.920 to do little shout outs and for TV episodes, and 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:21.480 my mom took my sister and I. I was too 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:23.800 little to audition, but they thought I was cute, so 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.120 they cast both of us, and my sister just hated it, 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:29.840 and I just loved it because I just got to 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.160 play pretend with a bunch of adults who were I 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.040 didn't know. I wasn't getting paid, but they were getting 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:36.280 paid to play pretend with me, and I thought it 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:40.640 was amazing. And then through that I actually the casting 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:44.280 director there set up, you know, which he said was 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.320 an appointment, but it ended up being an open call 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:50.240 for an agent in Atlanta, which was the only agency 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.200 Atlanta in Atlanta at the time. Hot Shot Kids and 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:58.199 I went for an audition there and got signed and 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.480 ended up one of my audition tapes ended up in LA. 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.840 It really kind of like all happened in a really wild, 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.160 crazy way because both my parents had full time jobs. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.440 This was not what they probably set out for their 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:12.360 seven or eight year old. 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:12.959 To be doing. 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:17.599 Right. Were they into it though? Did they? 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:18.840 They were supportive? 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.200 I mean I think that my mom thought that my 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.160 mom and dad thought that it was kind of like, 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.280 you know, kids go horseback riding after school and my 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.800 sister was playing tennis, so like, yeah, she does, you know, 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.600 acting and auditions after school, like the thing crazy, And 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.960 then I don't. I don't think it was until I 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.000 actually booked Orphan, and this was after I had done 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:39.920 some commercials and we had been in LA for a 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.160 couple of months in my third grade year that I 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.680 think that was the first time that my parents kind. 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.960 Of were like, oh, this is like a real thing, 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.120 Like this is like a real job that people have. 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:55.240 A Yeah, and it was actually I think that my 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:59.960 mom's is the big moment was so Leonardo DiCaprio produced Or, 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.200 which a lot of people don't really know, and he 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:06.040 is the reason that I did that, Like he he 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.000 was the reason that I was cast. He saw my 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:11.040 audition tape and he said that he would pull the 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:12.760 movie from the studio if they didn't hire me, and 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:16.320 I had no experience at all, and because he stood 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.800 by my audition, I was cast. And so over the 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:23.160 winter break, halfway between filming, he took my mom and 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.520 I to lunch, and I think the look on my 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:27.920 mom's face when he said, you know, yeah, she could 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:32.880 actually have a career doing this was like huh, Like, well, 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.200 if Leonardo DiCaprio's saying that my daughter could have a 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.160 career to maybe this could be a thing. 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:40.559 And they've always believed it. 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:43.600 How old How old were you here? 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.880 Because of course I see when the day when you 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.320 filmed it, I mean I see the date that it 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:48.760 came out. 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:52.440 How how old were you when you were filming? Third grade? 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:53.840 So you're like you were ten? 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.200 I was ten and I turned eleven. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:55.439 Yeah. 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.080 We moved to la for a year when I was nine, 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.480 and it was like kind of running out of time. 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.120 I booked Orphan when I was when I was ten, 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.640 we started filming. I turned eleven while we were filming, 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.400 and then came out when I was twelve, which. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:15.320 Is now your parents have full time jobs. Now see, 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.040 now there's something that's not quite sinking up here about 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.319 what you say, because they they have full time jobs. 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.040 And I get what you're because see for me, when I. 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:28.679 Was a wildcat at Westminster, yes, it was exactly what 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:29.400 you're saying. 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.120 It was a hobby. Like for me it was hot. 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.600 It was at this is a hobby that I'm doing 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:39.199 these plays and I wasn't in film and television at all, 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:41.640 Like I'm doing these plays and this is this is 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:46.320 a hobby. And then for me happened much later, between 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:50.240 junior and senior year of high school. I was like, oh, 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:54.640 this is a job like that. Much later later for you, 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.640 I was like, oh wait, like oh like building characters 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:02.320 and like creating. Oh yeah, I could get into this. 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.640 So then I made that decision, which again is still 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.680 in the grand scheme of people and careers at a 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:14.000 relatively young age. But here's the Okay, you're doing these auditions, 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:17.040 but your parents do they quit their job? Are they 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:21.160 working remote? Are they how are you moving to LA 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:24.679 for a year. They must have known that it was 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:26.240 at least somewhat serious. 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.560 So my dad and my sister stayed in Atlanta for 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.880 that year. My mom and I went just the two 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.680 of us to LA. My mom at the time, she 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.640 used to be like a war journalist and did you 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:43.000 know broadcast for CNN in Afghanistan. She was like a 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.559 you know, very series journalist, and then transferred into kind 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:50.360 of writing travel, lifestyle and celebrity pieces. And because of 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.679 that she was able to come to LA And I 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:57.000 remember when I was there, she was interviewing like Kim 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:01.960 Kardashian when the show was just coming out, remember Paris Hilton, 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.440 And we got her album before it came out, And 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.080 we're listening to like Stars Are Blind as we were 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:11.520 driving through Lang auditions, which now is so funny when 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.000 I think about it. She interviewed Jessica Simpson when her 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:17.080 clothing line launched. Like all of this stuff was happening 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:18.720 while I was, you know, auditioning. 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.360 All the people that are your friends now, all the 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:22.760 people that are your friends now. 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.120 I don't know if I've actually crossed I think I've 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:30.960 crossed paths with Kim Kardashian once because she's a big 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:34.240 fan of Orphan, which is really funny. But I haven't 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.640 actually met Paris Hilton or Jessica Simpson since. 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:39.640 But Paris, Paris is great. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.400 My mom said that she was one of the smartest 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.959 women that she ever interviewed in coming from Atlanta. 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.360 She had no She was like, I had no idea. 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.800 I was like, only expected like what you see of Paris, 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.000 And she was like, oh, she is smart. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.240 Okay, so now this is starting to make more sense. 0:13:56.280 --> 0:14:01.880 So really, your mom used you as an excuse to 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:11.000 further her career as as an entertainment celebrity writer, using 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.160 you as an excuse to move to. 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:17.120 La for a year. Yeah, all right, I get it. 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:17.920 I get it. 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:21.920 So you book Orphan, this is this is a big deal. 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.520 I mean, this is a cute. How do you What 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.000 do you remember about the audition? Did you meet Leah? 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.200 I asked you like seven questions. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.000 I didn't meet Leo. I didn't meet Leo during the audition. 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:33.400 I just saw your tape. 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:38.520 Yeah, so I remember like the first audition the script. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.560 First of all, I remember reading it because my mom 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.800 had to black out all the like at words and 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.000 like bad words in it. And I do a lot 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.760 of stuff in the movie, my character. And I remember 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.600 reading that script and there was so much sharpie in it, 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.920 like I couldn't really decay for like what was going 0:14:55.960 --> 0:15:00.320 on in certain parts. And I did my audition. I 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:05.000 remember my mom and I bought a dress at ross, 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.720 like a frilly, girly dress, and she curled my hair 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:10.920 and we put like a ribbon around my neck. Because 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.840 the description of the character was so specific, they were 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.320 asking people to dress up and the main descriptor was 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.120 like blonde hair, blue eyes. So I was like, I 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.400 had no shot in hell, but may as well try. 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.800 So dressed up, went for the audition, and I. 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:29.040 Remember the ribbon in the script too, the. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.720 Ribbons on the neck. Yeah, the ribbon was very specific. 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:36.160 They really had like an idea of what they wanted 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:41.360 and and that'sd all of that up for them, you know. 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.440 But I went in for the audition and I did. 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.880 There were like three scenes. It was like fourteen pages, 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:50.880 which was a lot when I was nine. I remember 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.760 that was like, you know, when I was ten, Sorry, 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.280 that was like a big amount to be memorizing. 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:58.440 And did you memorize it? 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.120 Yeah, yeah, word for word, every single bit of it. 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.720 And after doing the three scenes, the casting director got 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:10.360 up and left the room and she came back with 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.200 like two other people, and then we did him again, 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:14.960 and it was the first time I ever. 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:16.080 Had that happen in an audition. 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.640 And she called my mom into the room, of which 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.080 they do when you're little. They're like, we're going to 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.280 bring your mother back here, and they said that they 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:27.200 were going to bring me in for a callback and 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.160 that this was probably going to be a long process 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.400 because it was a big studio movie and I had 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.360 nothing on my resume and all of that. 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.520 So went home. 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:41.280 Was you know, got the callback, curled my hair, went 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.680 and met with the director Drama, who was still a 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.400 dear friend of mine to this day. 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:49.360 I laughed so much because I remember after my. 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.360 Audition scene he had me like scream like you know 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:57.720 horror movie scream, like in the trailer, and we did 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.840 like some kind of like an improv where he had 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:02.160 me like try and keep the Bible away from him. 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.840 It was so funny, you know things you do like 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.119 I gi'd like, really it would be good. 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:11.240 For this job. I don't know, and then I went 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.480 home and my mom went on a work trip. 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:17.359 She was writing about a safari in Africa a little 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.159 far away, and I was with my dad and my 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.560 sister at home and I remember doing my English homework 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:23.560 when my agent called and said that I booked the 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:28.840 movie and I then, you know, the best was my 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.000 dad wanted to call my mom and because she was 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.480 out in the middle of in the bush in Africa, 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.000 there's like, you know, they run to her with the 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.119 phone in the middle of nowhere, and she thinks, like 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:42.240 something horrible happened, because it's like, why would my family 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.359 be reaching out to me in the middle of nowhere 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:48.920 on this trip, And it was just really really exciting. 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:53.440 I just remember being it shocked, but also completely unaware 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:57.919 of what that meant, like what was yeah, what was 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:01.439 going to be? And it and it really was probably 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:05.960 the most rewarding but the hardest working like work I'd 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:07.760 ever done to that point, and even still to this 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:09.600 day sometimes I work on movies and I'm like, how 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:10.080 did I do that? 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:11.119 When I was ten, I had. 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:14.399 Dialet coaching, I had stunt training, I had you know, 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:16.240 like all of these crazy costumes. 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:17.760 I was the lead in the movie. I was acting 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:18.399 every single day. 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.040 I was working six days a week, and I was 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.159 doing school and I still to this day don't know 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.800 how I did that. When I was a kid, fuddy, 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:27.080 I had a lot of help and support. 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:32.240 So you know, yeah, so your mom has sharp eyed 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:35.280 out parts, but you're aware of what the movie is about, 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:39.200 like you're okay, like from the beginning. 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.840 Yeah, My mom actually was really freaked out by the 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.959 fact that I came to her room after I read it, 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:47.800 and my mom was like, so, what did you think? 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.080 And I said, she just wants someone to love her, 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:52.000 and my mom's like, that's what. 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:57.200 You got from? And I think it was because I 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:01.119 just I just saw this character who was like so 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:06.960 mangled and animalistic and sad that she was like having 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:10.399 to go through such lengths to get somebody else to 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.760 love her, and how sad that must be. And maybe 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:14.880 that's what got me the job. 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.879 Was like this is just very human, childlike response to 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:19.480 like someone's trauma. 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:25.040 You know, well, you have you have to be able 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.840 to identify with the characters that you're playing, regardless of 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.880 what they do. Yeah, I mean I think that's I mean, 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:35.520 I think that's vitally important and likely Yeah, why why 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:56.200 why you didn't end up getting it? This is like boring, 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.680 stereotypical question time. Now, I'm sure I've been asked this 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.160 a million times, which I'm very sensitive about this. 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:05.800 But did you have. 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:10.280 Like what did you play with as a child, Like 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:14.879 were you into barbies? Were you or was there like 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:20.080 a darker to you as a kid. I'm not obviously 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:24.040 you're not the character, but like did that? Were you 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:24.960 drawn to that? 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:28.480 All I know is that I loved playing with dolls, 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:34.119 but primarily my main play like playtime was just my imagination. 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:38.280 I mean I my mom and my dad always used 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:40.240 to say that, like they could leave me in a 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:43.000 room for five hours and know that I could entertain myself, 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:43.639 which is true. 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.400 I loved to play pretend. 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:49.960 And I wouldn't say that I had imaginary friends per se, 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:53.560 because I don't like not to call out like inside out. 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:55.480 I didn't have like a big bong for example, you 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:56.040 know what I mean. 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.520 I just could like sit in a room and imagine 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.040 scenario and play and talk to myself and all of 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:05.440 that for hours on end. And I think that's kind 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:08.520 of been something that I still do to this day 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:10.880 when I'm preparing for a movie or I'm even writing 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:13.840 scripts and things like that. Is you know, the ability 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:16.439 to just kind of sit on your own and imagine 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.320 a completely different world or a different scenario and step 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:24.760 into like a completely other realm. And I find that 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:28.120 that has kind of as I've gotten older and I've 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:32.600 gotten into like meditation is like a sort of spiritual thing, 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:35.240 you know, where you can like call in different sorts 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:38.159 of energies and things that don't necessarily exist. And I 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:41.720 think that's that's something I feel like with every movie, 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:44.640 I feel like I kind of create this person within 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:46.919 me that kind of takes over for a bit and 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:50.439 it's not like they are, you know, running around with 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:52.800 a hammer and and I have killing people every time, 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:55.239 you know, but like I'll take on certain attributes of 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:57.720 like a character. I remember when we were doing when 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.520 I was filming Orphan, I painted all the time. I 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.679 was painting constantly, and like when I did, you know, 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:05.720 the novice, Like I had to row for the movie. 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.560