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Speaker 1: I'm Isabelle Ferban. I'm an actress and barbecue enthusiast.

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Speaker 4: Brian Bomgartner. If you are a horror fan, well, guess

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Speaker 3: Bubble and Squeakna, bubble and squeak.

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Speaker 2: What's up? How are you?

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Speaker 2: For this job. I don't know, and then I went

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Speaker 1: And I wouldn't say that I had imaginary friends per se,

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Speaker 4: Well, part of I mean, part of why I ask

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Speaker 3: But I don't know, this is very weird. I don't

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Speaker 4: But so when I was a kid, I was obsessed.

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Speaker 3: Like for me, those are the characters that are interesting, right,

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Speaker 4: Characters and they were so much more interesting to me

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Speaker 1: I think that's part of why I'm drawn to those

443
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: sorts of roles or movies is that I think in general,

444
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,719
Speaker 1: you want to try and find the humanity in people,

445
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: even people that have done horrible things. There's always this

446
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: question of why would they do that? Or how did

447
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: they get to be this way? And I think very

448
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: often in life we actually don't get that answer, And

449
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: in a movie, you have the ability to give an

450
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: audience that answer, which I think is something that's pretty

451
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 1: cool about a movie is that you can really dive

452
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: into the world of another person and show show a

453
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: different side of someone's terror and why they are that way,

454
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, but not necessarily make them the good guy.

455
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: You know, they're still the bad guy. It's just you

456
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 2: kind of have a little.

457
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: Bit more of an intrigue and understanding of like who

458
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: they are, and you're more fascinated and intrigued by them

459
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: and the villains gets have so much more fun.

460
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. Were you able to see the movie when it

461
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 3: came out?

462
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? I did.

463
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: I I remember my parents covered my eyes during the

464
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: sex scene that for me and Peter sarsgart out.

465
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 2: That was like the only thing I wasn't allowed to see.

466
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: But I remember going to see the movie in the theater,

467
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: and I saw it at the premiere, and I the

468
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: first time I saw it was actually at a screening

469
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: at Warner Brothers with my parents and my sister, And

470
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: that was really cool because you know, I got to

471
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: go to the lot and where I had the audition

472
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: and sit in the theater and they presented it to

473
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: me and I just I remember seeing the credit and

474
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: my credit at the end and being like, this is

475
00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: so cool.

476
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 2: I made this. It's crazy.

477
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a very magical experience for me, and

478
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: I've been really fortunate that that movie as successful as

479
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: it was, and it kind of found this like cult

480
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: following after the fact, and I really feel very thankful

481
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: that as much as it would have been great for

482
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: it to be this like huge number one hit, I

483
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: still got to have a teenagehood and childhood right even

484
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: though to this day, Orphan is still what people recognize

485
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: me for everywhere, Like I will go to the store,

486
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: I'll go to the restaurant or yeah, and I mean

487
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: just even yesterday, I'm in the middle of nowhere in

488
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: Switzerland and I picked up, like I picked up a

489
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: like a takeout order, and the woman's like, are you

490
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: in that movie Orphan? I'm like, oh my god, I'm

491
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: just gonna look ten years old forever hopefully.

492
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

493
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: That is fascinating that they are picking you out now.

494
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 4: I mean, you did go back and do the prequel.

495
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 4: You reprised your role prequel. I was gonna say, seql

496
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 4: and I knew that was wrong. Orphan first kill. How

497
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 4: was that for you going back playing a role that

498
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 4: you had played when you were ten And obviously there's

499
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 4: a lot of exterior factors to you being in a prequel,

500
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 4: but yeah, go ahead, I mean.

501
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: It was first I was.

502
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: Questioning if it was even possible, And then the entire

503
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: time I was filming the movie, like you know what

504
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: it's like on set, So Julia Stles, who I love

505
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: and adore as a human but also was like obsessed

506
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: with her when I was younger. It's playing my mom,

507
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: and then you know Ross of seven one who plays

508
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: my dad, and we're like in scenes together and they're

509
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: wearing like stripper boots, like giant platform because you can't

510
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: buy them just playing black. No, they're fringe or glitter

511
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: or something like that. And I'm like squatting or I'm

512
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: sitting in this like chair that they made me where

513
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm you know, on like a butt dolly, and I'm

514
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: having like very serious scenes with them, and I'm just

515
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: thinking constantly, this is gonna look either great or this

516
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: is gonna be horrible. Like I'm either gonna look back

517
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: at this movie and it's gonna be like Snakes on

518
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: a Plane where it's so bad, where it's just gonna

519
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: be like no.

520
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: One's gonna buy it. And yeah, I remember the first

521
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 2: time seeing the movie. I was so scared.

522
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: I was sweating so much when I went to see it,

523
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: and then I was like turned to Alex our producer,

524
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, we did it,

525
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: like it actually actually does make sense. So I don't know,

526
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: I felt like there was this sort of magic. So

527
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: many people came back. We worked with a lot of

528
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: the same crew, which was really cool. We used a

529
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: lot of the old you know, original costumes is inspiration.

530
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: And I had the same dialect coach that I had

531
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: when I was ten, which was really cord. Yeah, yeah,

532
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: that was actually something I really I really thought for

533
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: I was like, we can't do it without Eric because

534
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: he he made that accent and he remembers what I

535
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: sounded like when I was ten. He had all these

536
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: audio recordings of working with me, so I was like,

537
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: we have to have him. And yeah, and every single

538
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: day I just felt like we were we were trying

539
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: to make it, like we were trying to figure out

540
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: if this was gonna work, and and it really was

541
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: like a creative, collaborative process. And when the movie was done,

542
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: I was just really really genuinely proud of us, but

543
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: I was also semi shocked.

544
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: Really, I was like.

545
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: You know what, I was like, I'll do it for

546
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: the fans, but you know, hopefully it was COVID I

547
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: hadn't worked, and like the whole year, I was like,

548
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: if this is the one thing I do, better go

549
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: out in a bang.

550
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: You know this will be it. And it worked.

551
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

552
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 4: Do you feel like, well, look, I mean you're the

553
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 4: lead of an iconic well now I can say horror franchise.

554
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 4: It's brought you other opportunities in this realm as well.

555
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 4: Do you like working in horror? I'm talking about Don't

556
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 4: let Me Go down a Dark Hall Sell.

557
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: You know it's I do and I don't. It's kind

558
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: of like a combination of both. I like it because

559
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: you get to you get to explore the things that,

560
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: like I said, darker parts of humanity that you don't

561
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: really often see. And I love the characters, Like sometimes

562
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: I find the most interesting characters and movies are written

563
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: in those films.

564
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.

565
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: About people being like, look, we don't have to worry

566
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: about scaring anybody.

567
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: We could just do whatever the heck we want.

568
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: That, Like, all these characters come out of nowhere that

569
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: are like wild and crazy, and sometimes you see you

570
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: read movies and you're like, this person's just so blah,

571
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: Like they're just kind of you know, you need an

572
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: actor to like come in and create something within that.

573
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: And I love when I read something on a page

574
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: and I go, oh, I know I can make this

575
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: so much better too, Like this could be really fun

576
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: to play with and sink my teeth into.

577
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 2: And you know what's funny. I don't watch a lot

578
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: horror movies, believe it or not, but I've gotten I

579
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: don't know either, by the way, Yeah, yeah, I mean

580
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: I don't.

581
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: Why don't you.

582
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: I don't really love being scared, if that makes sense.

583
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: But I love working on them. I really love working

584
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: on them, and I love that. I love the fandom

585
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: of horror films. I actually think horror movie fans are

586
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: unlike any other fan base there is. They they really

587
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: love these movies because they, you know, they experience a

588
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: journey with these characters. And uh yeah, I mean I would.

589
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: I would love to do more horror genre stuff. But

590
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: I also feel like it's a genre that I've explored

591
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: a lot, and I'm I'm right now trying to see

592
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: if I can try other avenues and see what other

593
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, what other avenues I can explore.

594
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: I mean I did.

595
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: I did a movie called The Novice that was not

596
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: a horror movie, but it did. It was pretty psychological,

597
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: and that's something I really.

598
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that.

599
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like a psychological thriller maybe we would

600
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: call it. Yeah, but a sports movie. You mentioned before

601
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 4: working out really really hard for that role. Was that

602
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: was that difficult for you?

603
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I love I love exercising, and I did that.

604
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: I had run a marathon like marathon before, and then

605
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: I had done an ultra marathon and I actually part

606
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: of I think what helped me get the job is

607
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: I wrote a letter to Lauren, the director who wrote

608
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: the script, who's a dear friend of mine now, but

609
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: I wrote her this note after I sent her the audition,

610
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: which is basically like, you have to hire me because

611
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: not only am I going to do a great job,

612
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: but I have a positive attitude and I know what

613
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: it's like to be exhausted physically. And I sent her

614
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: like pictures from this race. I had done an ultra

615
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: marathon relay race from Santa Monica to Las Vegas with

616
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: my friends was three hundred and forty four miles, and

617
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: so I sent her, Yeah, I sent her pictures of

618
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 1: myself like literally sweating and crying in tears and then

619
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: smiling and like all of this stuff just to be like,

620
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: look see, we're gonna have a great time together even

621
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: though we're going to be exhausted. And when we talk

622
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: about it to this day, she's like, as much as

623
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: your audition was very impressive, she's like that note was

624
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: exactly the try hard kind of attitude that I wanted

625
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: for that character.

626
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: That is kind of who I am, you know.

627
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: I really just wanted her to know that I was

628
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: I was the best person for the job. And there

629
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: were a lot of moments on set where I think

630
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: it came in handy that we were, you know, in

631
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: the freezing cold and the dam had been opened by

632
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: the by Peterborough, Ontario, and all the boats were floating

633
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: downstream and we're like way behind, and I would just look.

634
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: At Laura and I'd be like, we're gonna be fine,

635
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: and she's like, oh wait, I'm like, we're gonna be fine.

636
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: We're gonna be totally fine.

637
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 4: Oh that's awesome. We don't know each other well enough

638
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 4: for this, but I got a joke for you. How

639
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 4: do you know if someone's ran a marathon, what they.

640
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: Don't stop talking about it.

641
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

642
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, they tell you about it, which in this particular

643
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 4: situation worked out perfectly for you.

644
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: But I literally don't.

645
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm talking about it.

646
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: I just heard that joke yesterday. It just suck. Perfect timing.

647
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 2: Let me tell you.

648
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: The reason why that's so true, though, is because when

649
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: you're training, for one, you literally are waking.

650
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 2: Up every day and that's all you do.

651
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: But the thing that's funny, since I don't do that anymore,

652
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm so much more aware of my friends that do that.

653
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, God, was I like that?

654
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: Was I like, you know, I see someone for breakfast

655
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, I woke up at five and.

656
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 2: Ran six miles and I totally was that person. Which sucks.

657
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 3: Boy.

658
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 4: Anyway, it is all right, oh god, sorry Jack, I can't.

659
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 3: I mean the luck about you're a joke and being

660
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 3: able to tell the next day to the person who

661
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 3: said it, it's amazing. All right.

662
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: I'll have that thing where I'll think of a joke

663
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: and I'll write it down and then I'll you know,

664
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: have to save it until I can use it again.

665
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: I'm not as quick on it.

666
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 3: No, let me tell you something. No, this is not

667
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: this is not a joke. I'm horrible. I'm horrible at it.

668
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: And it's the worst because one I play golf, I'll

669
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 4: tell you about Yeah, you talk about people who like

670
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 4: to talk about what they do.

671
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: John, let me let me go, let me go, let

672
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: me go through my eighteen holes. I played today. I'm seventeen.

673
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 3: I had this shot. It was really weird. I had

674
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: the awkward life.

675
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh no, but that and you know what I

676
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 4: do for a living.

677
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: People expect me to be a joke teller. They're like, hey,

678
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 3: give us a joke. I'm not. That's not what I do.

679
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 3: I don't do.

680
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,479
Speaker 4: That, and I don't and I don't remember them, which

681
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 4: is why this was just so perfect. I don't remember

682
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 4: them ever, and so yeah, it's just it's it makes

683
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 4: things very difficult. So I have actually wrote down jokes

684
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 4: as well my notes on my phone and I have it,

685
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 4: and so then I won't tell anyone. I guess I'm

686
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 4: telling people now. I don't typically tell people at the

687
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 4: time that I'm like that I write it down because

688
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 4: I'm embarrassed about it. So like I'll be like, you know,

689
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 4: they'll ask for a job. I'll be like, no, no, no,

690
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 4: I'll give me that phone let me look, let me see.

691
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: If I can one that's appropriate. Is this appropriate? Oh yeah,

692
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 3: I think this is work anyway.

693
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 4: All right, well you guess what You've also done non

694
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 4: horror roles as well. We're going to talk about your

695
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 4: latest project. But you you were.

696
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 3: In the Hunger Games.

697
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: I was, Yeah, that was really fun.

698
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 3: Was that was a big That was a big deal.

699
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: Also it was also a massive deal for me because

700
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: I was such a huge fan of the books.

701
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: I remember when were you?

702
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm a huge fan of the books,

703
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: and I it was really my audition process was so

704
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: confusing because I auditioned and met for Primrose for Catness's

705
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: little Sister, and then I was too old to be Primrose,

706
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: and then they had me auditioned for Catness, but I

707
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: was too young to be Catnus. And I remember, I

708
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: just really think that I was lucky that Debraz and

709
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: the casting director, I think she just liked me and

710
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: she just kind of she's awesome, and she she was like,

711
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: why don't you come in for Clove? And I just

712
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: felt so lucky to be a part of that cast,

713
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: to be a part of that group. I mean, to

714
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: work with Gary, to work with Jen I mean, it

715
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: really was. It felt like summer camp. I was fourteen

716
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: and we were out in North Carolina in the mountains

717
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: with you know, everybody was like, you know, age thirteen

718
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: to nineteen, and I think Jen was nineteen or twenty

719
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: ath time, and we just had so much fun. I

720
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: mean it was like, I honestly, it's really cool that

721
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: that movie, in that whole series is so huge. But

722
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm such a huge fan of it that I forget

723
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: very often that I was in the first one because

724
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: I just so loved those movies that in those books.

725
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 2: So you know, it's really cool to have been.

726
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: A part of that, and I loved working on it.

727
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 4: Masters of Sex was a show I don't even I

728
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 4: can't even explain why. I was very very into it,

729
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 4: And I'll be honest with you right now.

730
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: I thought there was a lot flawed about it. I

731
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: thought there was a lot of stuff that didn't fully

732
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: work about it. But I loved that show and the

733
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 3: performances in it. This for you kind of your first

734
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: major recurring role on television. Did you enjoy working in television?

735
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: What was that like and how was it different for you?

736
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: I did it.

737
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think what you learn and

738
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: being on a TV show is if you're not like

739
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: a part of the main cast all the time, like

740
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: you never know what's going to happen with your character.

741
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: And I think that was you know, I loved being

742
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: a part of the show. I loved working with Lizzie

743
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: and Michael, and I.

744
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: Was lucky to my scenes were with them.

745
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: I felt like every time we went on set, you know,

746
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: you would work with a new director who was so

747
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: great and learn something new, and as you know, I

748
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: felt like I learned a lot from them. I also

749
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: feel like I learned, though, too, that when you're working

750
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: on a show, if you're if you're not like a

751
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: part of the principal cast, you really don't know what

752
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: happens to your character. And I think that was like

753
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: the sad thing that I started to realize is like

754
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: I was kind of I came into the show with

755
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: a specific kind of arc that they had spoken to

756
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: me about and I was really excited with it. And

757
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: I think as the show was evolving, they started to

758
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: change it. And there's nothing you can really do. You

759
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: just you know, go to set and you say your lines,

760
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: and you stand on your mark and you do your thing.

761
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: But I really I loved being a part of that cast,

762
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: and I think it just kind of gave me a

763
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: little bit more of an understanding of like when I

764
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: do a TV show, because I would really love to

765
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: do a TV show. I would love to be a

766
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: part of, you know, what creates the show and telling

767
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: that story with the writers and being able to talk

768
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: to them, because I remember sometimes I would get a

769
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: script and I was like what.

770
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: I was like, she's doing what in this episode? And

771
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: it was just like there's something you can do.

772
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: You're just like, Okay, well, you know at this point

773
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: you just go in and have a good time. But

774
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: I think that you know, the the story of you know,

775
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: the two of them, and how how they you know,

776
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: kind of were in charge of the whole modern sexual revolution.

777
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: I mean that was what really got me into the show.

778
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: I was a huge fan of the show before I

779
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: got to be a part of it, and Lizzie Kaplan

780
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: is probably one of the funniest people I've ever met

781
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: in my entire life. We had I had one of

782
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: the first scenes I had in the show was like

783
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: the day after my eighteenth birthday with Michael Sheen, and

784
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: I had to like kiss him, and he's like pushing

785
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: me off of him because I'm drunk. And she was

786
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: outside the door when I opened the door to the soundstage,

787
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: spoke a cigarette and she.

788
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 2: Goes, Happy eighteenth birthday, kid.

789
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: I love Lizzy Chaplin's awesome.

790
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 4: You start a production company if now, is that what

791
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 4: you want? You want to develop television? What kind of

792
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 4: projects do you want to do? I mean movie because you.

793
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: Want to have a hand in it, Peter, Yeah, you know,

794
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: I think right now, I'm I'm just kind of getting

795
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: started with, you know, producing projects that I've that I'm

796
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: acting in and my I've written some projects, but I'm

797
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: also developing some things myself as well. And my my

798
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: hope is to kind of create my own sort of

799
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: lucky chap Like Margaret Robbie. I really admire what she's

800
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: been able to do with not only creating projects for herself,

801
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: but producing projects for other people too. You know, I

802
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: really love storytelling. I loved love what I do, and

803
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: I love being around you know, people who have creative

804
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: ideas that are way smarter than me. So I really would,

805
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, hope that in the next couple of years

806
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: I can kind of not only create some of the

807
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: projects that I've written myself, but also help make some

808
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: products for people that I know, friends of mine, people

809
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: that I think are really talented. Scripts that I've read

810
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: that I mean, there's so many scripts. I'm sure you've

811
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 1: probably read scripts that you loved and then the movie

812
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: never got made and they're still dancing around sometimes. And

813
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: there's you know, a number of them that I've kept

814
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: tabs on because I'm like, this would be an amazing movie.

815
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: And I'm not fifteen anymore, so I can't be in it.

816
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: But I think this would be an amazing movie. And

817
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: and my go for you to make some of those Yeah,

818
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: what if.

819
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: You know that name?

820
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: I came up with a really long time ago, and

821
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: now I'm like, maybe I should change it, But I

822
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: think it's you know, it's okay.

823
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: Is it right?

824
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: Well?

825
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 4: Well, I know, I mean I think it does speak

826
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 4: to what you just said. What if what what if

827
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 4: we just make the damn thing?

828
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: Right?

829
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: What if we just make the damn thing? Yeah? Maybe

830
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: maybe that's that's the missing ingredient. Ingredient.

831
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 4: Well, no, I mean that's what it implies. I think,

832
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 4: based on how you've explained that, I think that's I

833
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 4: think that's.

834
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: Great, thank you.

835
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: It was the Isabelle was the you know, but I

836
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: I think it's you know, it is the dream, the dream?

837
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: Why did you get that?

838
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: Now?

839
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: I like it? Now I like it better.

840
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: Okay, there we go.

841
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, what Isabelle Furman?

842
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: I'm glad?

843
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: What if? All right? Yeah? Do we have a do

844
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: we have a logo for what if? You know?

845
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: I probably should ask my sister to do that. She's

846
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: really good at doing those things.

847
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 3: You can incorporate.

848
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 4: Let me tell you, Yeah, you can incorporate a lot

849
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: of this Isabelle Freman in there.

850
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: Yeah you can. You can do a lot of things

851
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: with you know what.

852
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: I want to actually do a barbecue collaboration with you,

853
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: because I love barbecue and I love.

854
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're aware, but you know what

855
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: I have.

856
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: I know you do.

857
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 4: I just held it up. Why you you do you

858
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 4: make barbecue? Are you like eating it?

859
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: I a first love, love to eat it.

860
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: I also I make very good side dishes for barbecue.

861
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: I make very mac and cheese, I make very good

862
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: corn bread, I make really great desserts.

863
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: What if you know? I just think there's collaboration that

864
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: we could totally make. I really do I.

865
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 3: Think there is side dishes? Yeah? What if?

866
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 4: What if we collaborate on this? I think this is no.

867
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 4: I think this is really this is going to be

868
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 4: really good. Are you a TikTok star?

869
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: No?

870
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 2: I actually I don't have a TikTok. My grandma has

871
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 2: a TikTok.

872
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: I made a TikTok for my grandma, but that's because

873
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: my my grandmother is probably one of the most flarious

874
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: people I know. And she's eighty two and she reviews alcohol.

875
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: That's that's what she does. She loves she loves to

876
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: enjoy different kinds of wine, and I just record what

877
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: she says about it, and she kind of says the

878
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: same thing about everything, which is kind of awesome, and

879
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: I just kind of cut it together.

880
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. Does grandma have a big following?

881
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: I don't.

882
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: I think if I was more dedicated to this I

883
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: would it would probably grow.

884
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

885
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 2: How many followers she has.

886
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: I'm really not so social media savvy in this time

887
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: of social media savviness being important.

888
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 3: Well, I was.

889
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 4: I've been told for years to make a TikTok page

890
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 4: and I finally did. And who knew that people liked barbecue?

891
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 4: So much on the TikTok. They love barbecue cookbook. Oh,

892
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 4: they love it on the TikTok. I just posted a

893
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 4: video this morning that makes sense.

894
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I get a lot of recipes from Instagram,

895
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: which are all TikTok videos because I love I love

896
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: to cook. I love food, and I love to eat

897
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: food that I make, especially so it's.

898
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: Like, you do you book mark them the recipes you

899
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 3: find there?

900
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: Yeah? I save all.

901
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 3: Do you ever go back and make some?

902
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: I do, actually, And you know the best what I

903
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: do is I usually like change and modify things, like

904
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: so good. Right now, I'm in Switzerland and I want

905
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make like I have this mac and cheese

906
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: recipe I found, but I'm going to change it and

907
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 1: use the cheeses that they use in fun do here,

908
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: which is greir vast honk, because I think that it

909
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: would be really good. And I also think Swiss people

910
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: are really snobby about their cheese. And when I said

911
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna make mac and cheese for our next barbecue,

912
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: my friend said with cheddah. I said, yeah, with cheddar

913
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: cheddar cheese, American cheddar cheese. They were like, oh, you know.

914
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: I was like you know what, fine, I'll use the

915
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: green air, I'll use the local.

916
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: Wait, so you have barbecues in Switzer with people.

917
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: Love a barbecue Switzer. It's very very common here. It's

918
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: you know, what's funny is a lot it's a lot

919
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: of little villages and like the things that I typically

920
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: do and with my friends on the weekend is we'll

921
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: go over to someone's house and will barbecue, and we'll

922
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 2: just sit in the backyard and drink wine and eat

923
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: barbecue for a long time. It's great.

924
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 3: Wow, all right, I'm happy to hear that. What to

925
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 3: you is a.

926
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 2: Barbecue, What to me is a barbie?

927
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 4: Like if if someone says, I want you to come over,

928
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 4: We're going to have a barbecue.

929
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 3: What does that mean to you?

930
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: If it's at my house?

931
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: No, if someone invites you, what is your expectation.

932
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: My expectation is good classic hits on the radio. Okay,

933
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: the grill going for a long time usually typically typically

934
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: it's like you know, the you know, the gentlemen of

935
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 1: the group, of the ones usually that are doing the grilling.

936
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is about a grill that

937
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: attracts men, like lots of a plan, you know, like

938
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 2: all around, you know.

939
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: And we look at it, but what what kind of meat?

940
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 4: What kind of meats?

941
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: Usually burgers, like you, I usually think the burger meat

942
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: because I really like to fix things around, make it flavorful.

943
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't particularly love a veggie barbecue, but sometimes like

944
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 1: a good like plant on the barbecue is really good

945
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: with some onions, those.

946
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: Really don't go well. Sausages are always good.

947
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: Like I'm not a hot dog person, but I really

948
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: love like, you know, the Mergez sausages or like here

949
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: the they call it so ces devot like veal sausages

950
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: really pop here and really.

951
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: Good yeah, and sounds delicious.

952
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: I love a good grilled steak, like a good big

953
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: yeah steak with the bone. I always eat the bone.

954
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: That's like my I always take the bone. I'm that

955
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: person when I go to a restaurant actually, because it's

956
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: not it's not really appropriate here in Switzerland or in

957
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: Europe to like take the bone and eat it at

958
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: the table. People look at you really funny. So I'll

959
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: usually ask them to wrap it up for the dog.

960
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: And I don't have a dog, and I go home

961
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: and I eat.

962
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 3: It a lot, eat the bone. There you go.

963
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 2: It's the best part.

964
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 4: So I had a person that said to me, this

965
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 4: was in coming out with this book, that if someone

966
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 4: asked me to come to their house for a barbecue, yeah,

967
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 4: this is a woman. She said, that means you're doing.

968
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: A whole hog.

969
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: WHA.

970
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 3: I was like what she.

971
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 4: Was like, Yeah, barbecue means whole hog. I was like,

972
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 4: that is a that's a huge expectation to bring to everyone. Now,

973
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 4: what she's referring to is which I know and have

974
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 4: learned and discussed in the book. Barbecue is slow cooking. Yeah, right,

975
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 4: so really barbecue all of the things. See, I think

976
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 4: of a barbecue the way that you think of a barbecue,

977
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 4: which is like just calm, you're gonna hang out. This

978
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 4: girl's gonna be going we're gonna be cooking a bunch

979
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 4: of different things. Barbecue is like it's got to be

980
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 4: on the fire for like six hours. So that's what

981
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 4: we're gonna do. What if what if we collaborate, Yeah,

982
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 4: we make up, we make up. We make a barbecue

983
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 4: a slow cooked item your choice. Cool, and then you're

984
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 4: gonna put the sides because we're gonna have plenty of

985
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 4: time because it's gonna take like six or seven hours,

986
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 4: put the sides together, and then we're gonna and then yeah,

987
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. Then then I'm gonna launch your TikTok

988
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 4: page and you're gonna be a TikTok star based off

989
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 4: our one barbecue.

990
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: I think this is going to be amazing.

991
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 3: What if?

992
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: What if?

993
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 3: What if? Uh?

994
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 4: Your newest project so exciting, Horizon and American Saga, the

995
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 4: newest adventure with Kevin Coosner Western Epic.

996
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,479
Speaker 3: If you will. Were you at Cohn?

997
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

998
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 4: It was Potato Potato? Did you see this standing ovation

999
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 4: that happened that everyone talks.

1000
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: About was the craziest was My view was like Kevin

1001
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: and like all of our cast was on one side

1002
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: and his whole family was on the other side and

1003
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: watching his kids, his grown up kids cry watching him

1004
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: receive that standing ovation.

1005
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: I lost my shit. I was like and then you know,

1006
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, they're going to take pictures.

1007
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: It was leaving and I've been with Scarel running everywhere

1008
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: down my face because it was just such an emotional

1009
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: moment for him, but for us too. I mean, these

1010
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: movies were are so big, and we've read all four scripts.

1011
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 1: We filmed two out of the four of these movies.

1012
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: I mean, this has been like a huge undertaking. It's

1013
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: been a part of his life since the eighties, since before.

1014
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 2: I was born. He's been working on these movies.

1015
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: And I think that for him, that applause was more

1016
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: like this, you know, kind of culmination of all of

1017
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: this hard work that he's had and that he's done.

1018
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: To be there and to celebrate the movie in such

1019
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: a way was just it was so cool. It was

1020
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 1: like one of those moments that you don't really believe

1021
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: is happening in the moment, and then you're like sitting

1022
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: afterwards and being like, wait, that was real and.

1023
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: That just happened, and that's pretty cool that I was

1024
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: a part of it.

1025
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that made its way back here to

1026
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 4: the States. That was a very very cool moment to watch.

1027
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 4: So you guys have filmed parts one and two. Yeah,

1028
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 4: I know that you have a significant part of the

1029
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 4: story in part two.

1030
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 3: When are we releasing it?

1031
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: Weird and this film festival for part two next month?

1032
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah, when is it out for the rest of us?

1033
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: I actually don't know. I gotta ask, I gotta ask.

1034
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: I have no clue, I have no idea.

1035
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: I do know that we're going September seventh, the movie's

1036
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: premiering in Venice Film Festival.

1037
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: He's really excited about that.

1038
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: I think this movie for him has been a lot

1039
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: about like full circle moments with his career, and Can

1040
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: was something that he always said he wanted to release

1041
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: the first movie in Can because that was a festival

1042
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: that always really you know, honored him and took good

1043
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: care of him. And he had never been there for

1044
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: a movie of his He'd only ever been to the festival,

1045
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: and it was just important to him that the movie

1046
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: presented there and for Venice. Venice was the first film

1047
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: festival that really kind of you know, took a liking

1048
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: to his movie Fandango, and that was he was there

1049
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: for Silverado doing press when everyone kind of went crazy

1050
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: about Fandango, and that was the movie that kind of

1051
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: launched his career. And so he's very very proud and

1052
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: very emotional as well about the movie going to Venice.

1053
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: I think he feels like this is like, you know,

1054
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: big full circle moments happening one after the other, and

1055
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: and I'm.

1056
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: Really proud of them too. I Mean, there's something cool

1057
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: about watching.

1058
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: Someone that you've looked up to for so many years

1059
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: as an actor, as a creator, as a director, and

1060
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: watching them like pour so much passion and love into

1061
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: something and be such an incredible person to work for,

1062
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: and then to see them, you know, celebrate something that

1063
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: they made and really feel like, you know, I don't know,

1064
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: like honored for what work they've put in. And then

1065
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: to have seen that behind the scenes, I think really

1066
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: just it's emotional for me too, because you know, I

1067
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: think we all kind of feel like Kevin's kids working

1068
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: on the movie, Like he's got to like dad for

1069
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: all of us just want to do them proud every

1070
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: day and you know, make sure that you're up to bat.

1071
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, no pun intend there's going to be four.

1072
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 2: It's gonna be four. Yeah.

1073
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 4: And so when are you filming the Are you going

1074
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 4: to film the other two back to back as well?

1075
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: I think we're going to film them back to back,

1076
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: That's the conversation, and probably gonna go next year. I've

1077
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: had all four scripts since before that, right before he

1078
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: cast me, So I'm really excited. My character spans the

1079
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: whole saga, and I start movies one and two as

1080
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: like seventeen eighteen year old teenager and grow into a

1081
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: thirty year old woman, and so there is this you know,

1082
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: huge kind of you know change that I get to

1083
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: show and kind of like we were talking about with TV,

1084
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: it's like I'm like not knowing where my character is

1085
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: going to go. I know where my character's going, so

1086
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: I get to like plant all these little easter eggs

1087
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: throughout parts one and two, and right now, I'm just

1088
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: very excited to get back to doing part three. I

1089
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: think Parts two and three are really big for my

1090
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 1: character in a huge way. And I'm so honored that

1091
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: I get to work with Kevin but also Will Patten

1092
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: and Giovanni Ribisi. I get to have scenes with some

1093
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: of the most talented actors ever, and it's I just

1094
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: really feel really lucky and grateful that he picked me.

1095
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 4: You know what an awesome opportunity. You ride horses, I do.

1096
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: I didn't I ride horses until I was you know

1097
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: as well as I do now.

1098
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Speaker 2: You know, there's a difference. There's a difference between riding

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Speaker 2: a horse and like riding a horse like it's a car.

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Speaker 1: That was the big thing that our wrangler, Scottie was

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00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: amazing and Anne, who taught me how to drive my wagon,

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Speaker 1: they kept reiterating is like, this is your primary means

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00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: of transportation, the same way that you get in your

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00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: car and you like, you know, sit back in the

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00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: seat and you know your rear view mirror and your

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00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: signals and everything. You don't have to worry about it.

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00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, I'm just getting in the car every

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00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: day like I do every day. That's how comfortable you

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00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 1: have to be on a horse or driving this wagon.

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Speaker 2: And that was a really.

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00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: High benchmark to achieve in such a short period of time.

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Speaker 1: But now I feel really comfortable on a horse and

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Speaker 1: driving a wagon. I mean I could probably drive a wagon,

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00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of miles I think.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, on the street.

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00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 1: You know, the wheels are not exactly super robust. I'm

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00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: just gonna say. The wheels are like wood and a

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00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 1: little bit of steel, and they do not handle.

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00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: Like the suspension on those things is not.

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Speaker 3: There's not a great suspension.

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Speaker 2: Especially in LA.

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Speaker 1: You hit one pothole, I feel like that wheel is

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Speaker 1: just going to bounce right off, you know, horses a breakout.

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Speaker 4: It's actually I love that story that you just told

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Speaker 4: about that because that is so much about what we do.

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Speaker 4: There's oh, I can ride a horse yeah, or I

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00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 4: can swing a golf club. We talked about golf or

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Speaker 4: or whatever, but like can you do it? Like it's

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Speaker 4: what you do. And I think that is that it's

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Speaker 4: a very interesting distinction and something that I think would

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00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 4: be really cool, Like, yeah, there is no car to

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00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 4: take you home. This is how you're getting home, So

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Speaker 4: own it, live it, you know, be there. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: that's very cool.

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Speaker 1: Even to the point where like Kevin legitimately had his

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00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: horse that he rides in the movie at Video Village

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00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: and when he would want to direct us, like we're

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00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: in these massive landscapes in the middle of nowhere in Utah,

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00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: and if you drive a gator across the set, you're

1140
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: going to see the tire marks.

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00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: So he would get on his horse and he would

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00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 2: gallop across the field towards us, and you're just staring

1143
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 2: at Kevin Costner's hair blowing in the wind, galloping across

1144
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: the field to tell you what to do, and you're

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00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 2: just like, gosh, this is crazy, like like he's that

1146
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 2: comfortable up there. This is just what he does, Like.

1147
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 3: He just didn't right.

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00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty pretty insane.

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00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: There were a lot of moments where I was like, Wow,

1150
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: this is really my life right now, this is really happening.

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00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: Like I've always looked at doing movies.

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00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: And since I was a kid, is like playing pretend

1153
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: with a bunch of adults who are just like, you know,

1154
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: joining in on my delusion and you know, appreciate it

1155
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: as well and like to co create this like imaginary

1156
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: world in landscape. But I still to this day cannot

1157
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: believe like the people I've gotten to work with, the

1158
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: places I've gotten to go with this job, and just

1159
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: how much fun it is, Like truly.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome.

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00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome. Congratulations on Horizon. I can't wait to

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00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 4: see part two whenever you decide to give it to us.

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00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 4: And good luck with three and four. And uh yeah,

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00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 4: we got a collaboration. We gotta we gotta figure it out.

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00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: We've got a barbecue just like it's just like what

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00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: you do, you know, six hours.

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Speaker 3: Just like what you do?

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Speaker 4: I mean, how long are you in Europe? I don't

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00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 4: know if I can do this in Switzerland.

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00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: This is honestly, the metia is incredible and the cheese

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00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: is unbelievable.

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00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that.

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00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 3: Well maybe so then.

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00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: I'll be back in the US.

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Speaker 1: In September after Venice. All right, so it's totally possible,

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Speaker 1: be I mean, I will say sw cows.

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Speaker 2: There's there is something.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is like appropriate for the podcast,

1179
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: because it's when we barbecue you at my friend's place.

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01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 2: One of my friend's parents every year.

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01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: Buys buys half of a cow because it's cheaper than

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01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: buying yeah, you know, and.

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Speaker 3: So that's what you do in Nebraska here.

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Speaker 1: And when it's really good, we're like, oh my gosh,

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01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: this is amazing and he's like it's margerite and you're like,

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Speaker 1: oh no.

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Speaker 3: No, oh, no, delicious.

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01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, you can't say that though in the

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01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: US people people get really touching out in the whole thing,

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01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: and I don't know, there's it's a little different.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, congratulations on Venice, good luck, have a great time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of water there. I'm just gonna warn you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear, I hear, maybe sinking my I went

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01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: to Venice as a kid, and my only other memory

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01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: of Venice is standing in the square with my arms

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01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: stretched wide with food on my arms so that way

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Speaker 1: all these pigeons could like it on me.

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Speaker 2: And now I look back at your memory with such.

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Speaker 3: Like God, oh no, because.

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01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: A kid, it's so cool, But when you grow up

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Speaker 2: you're like.

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Speaker 4: Who seriously, seriously, seriously, I have one favor to ask

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Speaker 4: of you. Would you please recreate this photo? Would you

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01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 4: please recreate this photo? It has to be recreated side

1206
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 4: by listen as a TikTok try to make you a

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Speaker 4: TikTok star.

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Speaker 3: You have to recreate this photo.

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01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,919
Speaker 1: I think it would be best done if I could

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Speaker 1: somehow do it in my dress that I'm wearing the premiere.

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Speaker 1: That would be iconic.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that would make me TikTok famous. If I you

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Speaker 2: sit premiere?

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Speaker 3: What time is the premiere?

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Speaker 1: I actually all I know is we get there by boat.

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01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: I know that because because there's a lot of water.

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Speaker 3: In ves Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you've heard there's a lot of water. Yeah,

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01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 4: a lot of water in Venice. Congratulations on not just

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Speaker 4: the movie, but the series, the saga.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're.

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Speaker 2: Calling it, the American Saga.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations. It was so nice talking to you.

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01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: It was great chatting with you too. It's really good

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01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: to beat you.

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01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 3: Thank you, Isabelle. It was so nice getting to know you.

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Speaker 4: Let's barbecue when you're back in the US of a

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01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 4: Let's Barbecue. I look forward to our collaboration What If

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01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 4: Horizon and American Saga Part one is out. Now go

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01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 4: check it out, and then also come back next week

1231
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 4: and check this out another episode of Off the Beat.

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Speaker 4: Until then, everybody, have a great week. Off the Beat

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01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 4: is hosted and executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside

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01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 4: our executive producer Lang Lee. Our senior producer is Diego Tapia.

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Speaker 4: Our producers are Emily Carr and Seth Olanski, and our

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Speaker 4: talent producer is Ryan Papa Zachary.

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Speaker 3: Our theme song

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Speaker 4: Bubble and Squeak, performed by the one and only Creed

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Speaker 4: Bretton