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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Everyday Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Era

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Speaker 2: way tire buying should be. Jmart Tonight's gonna be one

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Speaker 2: of those nights, you know, I if Bernie Frado wants

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Speaker 2: to call out sick for a couple hours. We got

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Speaker 2: three NFL games to recap, we got a college football

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Speaker 2: playoff to preview, we got camwre doing stuff, Mike McCarthy's future,

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers future. I don't know how we're gonna fit

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Speaker 2: it all into three hours, Jmar, what do you think,

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Speaker 2: my friend?

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Speaker 1: We're gonna try. And then of course we have the

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Speaker 1: college football quarterfinals to preview as well, which is the

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Speaker 1: first thing we would usually do. But there's so much happening.

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Speaker 1: This is when we're supposed to be, you know, just

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Speaker 1: sort of tidying up the house and getting prepared for

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Speaker 1: the next year. We don't have time. No, there's too

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Speaker 1: much live sports going on. Too many things happening, including

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Speaker 1: look when you see Yukon and North Carolina, whoa man,

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Speaker 1: what a basketball game? Well, no, it was a football

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Speaker 1: game and Yukon won it. So there you go. What

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Speaker 1: checka era is officially on the clock.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know we were going to talk about Yukon

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Speaker 2: football turning Bill Belichick into a meme two minutes and

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Speaker 2: fifty nine seconds into the show, But here we are.

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Speaker 2: Saw a lot of Belichick memes from the Fenway Bowl Today,

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Speaker 2: Yukon a nine win season for the first time since

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Speaker 2: two thousand and seven. Might have to put that one

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Speaker 2: on the back burner for right now, Jay Martin, I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you bringing up I'm sure Ja Saga will have

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Speaker 2: all the stats on that one later on in the show.

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Speaker 2: But let's get into the three NFL games that took

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Speaker 2: place on Saturday. By the way, Jason Martin, I don't

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Speaker 2: mean to be a Christmas scrooge here before the New year,

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Speaker 2: don't don't.

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Speaker 1: I'd really like to talk about two games.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, all I was gonna say was before the

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Speaker 2: end of the show, we might have to talk about

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Speaker 2: did the NFL actually give us too much football?

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Speaker 1: This week.

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Speaker 2: That might be a conversation we have that, but I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to be a Christmas Scrooge. Right now, the

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Speaker 2: Rams are playing the Arizona Cardinals. It is thirteen to nine.

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Speaker 2: Rams have the lead, but the Cardinals are driving with

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Speaker 2: about a minute to go. So we'll keep you updated

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Speaker 2: on that one. J Mart. By the way, the stakes

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Speaker 2: in that one. The Rams can't technically clinch the NFC

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Speaker 2: West tonight. There is some complicated mathematics with that one

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Speaker 2: because they are obviously a game up on Seattle and

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Speaker 2: host Seattle to end the regular season in week eighteen,

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Speaker 2: So technically the Rams cannot clinch. If they were to

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Speaker 2: lose this game, it would set up a winner takes

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Speaker 2: the NFC West next week at Sofi Stadium. But we

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Speaker 2: will see where we are at the Rams up four

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Speaker 2: I do want to go to the game right before this, Jmark,

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Speaker 2: because my goodness, what a game. So much to get

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Speaker 2: to Bengals Broncos. I'm just gonna let the guys and

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Speaker 2: girls that were in the booth get you caught up

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Speaker 2: on what happened. Here is what happened. Bengals were up

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Speaker 2: twenty four to seventeen. As the clock tick down, was

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Speaker 2: it gonna go to overtime? Here's Bonnicks.

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Speaker 1: Bengals rush four Nicks deep drop.

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Speaker 3: Now Rollster's right, throws the ball he wants Mems in

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Speaker 3: the corner of the end zone.

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Speaker 3: They are stunned here at pain Course Stadium. A twenty

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Speaker 2: into overtime. Bengals get themselves in field goal position. We

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Speaker 2: think they're going to seal the victor with a field goal.

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Speaker 2: Other plans this attempt will be for thirty three yards

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Speaker 1: Win the game for Cincinnati. Snap placement, kick on the way.

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Speaker 3: And he hifts you upright and is so good all

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Speaker 3: you can do is chuckle, really, oh man, goodness, Katie

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow a perfect thirty three yard pass down the

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Speaker 4: It's a Bengals and the final playoff spot in the

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Speaker 4: the regular season. The Cincinnati Bengals are still alive. Has

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow hits Tay Higgins front game winning touchdown.

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Speaker 2: So that was the Bengals with the walkoff win in

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Speaker 2: overtime thirty to twenty four, setting up that playoff scenario.

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Speaker 2: Bengals still need help. The Broncos could have clinched the

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Speaker 2: final playoff spot had they won this evening. The Bengals

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Speaker 2: are still alive. They would need a Broncos loss next week,

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Speaker 2: unlikely to the Kansas City Chiefs, which will almost certainly

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Speaker 2: Miami and Indianapolis, who both have a game left. That

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Speaker 2: is the situation in Cincinnati. By the way, should at

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Speaker 2: least acknowledge that we got ourselves a little situation here

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Speaker 2: in Sofi Stadium. The Rams are up four with forty

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Speaker 2: A tipped Kyler Murray pass appears to have been intercepted

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Speaker 2: on the goal line or in the end zone. Really

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Speaker 2: that angle, it looked like it was a good interception.

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Speaker 2: It would seal a victory for the Los Angeles Rams.

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Speaker 2: He was definitely in bounds. The question is did he

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Speaker 2: We will wait for the official ruling here. The Rams

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Speaker 2: a situation where they uh could win the division. Not

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Speaker 1: It's wild. I mean, you had that thing first in goal.

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Speaker 1: You did need a touchdown, so maybe you took you know,

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Speaker 1: to take. But that's tough right there, it's tough. Did

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Speaker 1: he have to settle boy? All kinds of drama. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're definitely looking at this.

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Speaker 2: They are you think, you know with the nfl.

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Speaker 1: Angle right now in front of me. Let me see here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, take your time. We're all trying to figure this out.

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Speaker 1: Man. I mean, the nose of the ball obviously hits

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Speaker 1: Like that's the thing, Like he's got a grip on

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Speaker 2: I think so too. We are waiting on official ruling.

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Speaker 2: An interception from a Kello Witherspoon in the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Let me set this up, Rams up thirteen to nine.

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Speaker 2: The Cardinals were driving and in the red zone a

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Speaker 1: Did it?

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Speaker 2: Did he have control as it hit the ground? The

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Speaker 2: call officially stands. The Los Angeles Rams are going to survive.

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Speaker 2: They will improve with this victory. The Los Angeles Rams

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Speaker 2: will improve. To let me make sure that I have

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Speaker 2: all this accurately. I just had all of it up

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Speaker 2: this victory they will be in fact ten and six. Technically,

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Speaker 2: they do not clinch the division. The Seattle Seahawks are

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Speaker 2: possibility that the Rams could lose that game and still

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Speaker 2: get into the playoffs based on the math and based

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Speaker 2: Rams are in pretty good shape when next week they

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Speaker 1: Look, all you gotta do is win in the league,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't always have to look impressive, and oftentimes

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Speaker 1: it doesn't, you know. I mean, I think that Joe

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Speaker 1: It's a division game. The Rams are that kind of

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Speaker 1: it's rough if you're Arizona, because they had a pretty

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Speaker 1: They've had a moment or two that have cost them dearly.

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Speaker 1: And you see a couple of their players, you know,

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Speaker 2: Play Cardinals started two and four this year, proceeded to

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Speaker 2: Cardinals using all their timeouts, Rams on their goal line

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Speaker 2: and the game will be over. J Mart Let's let's

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Speaker 2: look ahead a little bit. Arizona looks like, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 2: looks like that last snap is good. There's a little

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Speaker 2: of scrimmage here, so we'll keep you updated on that.

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Speaker 2: But the clock is gonna run out. Helmets are off.

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Speaker 2: After the pushing and shoving. There's there's you know, the

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Speaker 2: the you know, the dap and the love from player

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Jason Martin. We

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Speaker 6: He had eleven receptions one hundred and thirty one yards.

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Speaker 6: Chargers did clinch a playoff berth in the AFC with

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Speaker 6: an easy win at New England forty to seven. Justin

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Speaker 6: Herbert three touchdown passes, two to lad McConkie. By the way,

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Speaker 6: the Georgia quarterback currently that's injured Carson Beck declared for

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Speaker 6: the NFL Draft, And yes, we do have a late

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Speaker 6: bowl game going on, Army twenty one six over Louisiana Tech.

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Speaker 6: Now late third quarter of the Independence Bowl. We had

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Speaker 6: bowl victories already for TCU and Nebraska. For Miami, Ohio

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Speaker 6: and East Carolina BYU stomp Colorado at the Alamo Bowl

441
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Speaker 6: thirty six to fourteen in Orlando, Iowa State over Miami

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Speaker 6: forty two to forty one. I don't know if people saw,

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Speaker 6: but the University of Connecticut won the Fenway Bowl today.

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Speaker 2: We already talked about it to lead the show. I'm

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Speaker 2: glad you were pant touch.

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Speaker 6: Jim twenty seven to fourteen over North Carolina. This is

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Speaker 6: kind of a PREEMPTI star before Connecticut gets adopted as

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Speaker 6: the college football team for this show. But oh yeah,

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Speaker 6: they did.

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Speaker 1: So I mentioned. I figured if I did it first,

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Speaker 1: then that would save us from like a five minute

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Speaker 1: diet tribe later.

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Speaker 6: We are thinking alike, But how about this. They are

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Speaker 6: nine and four to finish the season, LSU Tigers eight

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Speaker 6: and four. I'm just saying Texas A and M after

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Speaker 6: last night eight and five, So.

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Speaker 2: Colorado nine and four. They're basically the same team.

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Speaker 6: Oh you need to know that college foot.

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Speaker 2: If everyone watched you kind of a little closer, they

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Speaker 2: would have seen they had Heisman contenders, just like Colorad.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, another give me five of them, camer five players

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Speaker 1: on their teams right now?

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Speaker 2: Well, Skyler Bell, who's actually in the portal, but play today?

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Speaker 2: Does Durell Robinson County transferred to Auburn? Very good play?

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Speaker 1: I mean, this would this would this would? That question

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Speaker 1: depends upon whether or not I knew he played for

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Speaker 1: Connecticut at any point. Any The truth of the matter is,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea of anybody. So you could just

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Speaker 1: name say people. As long as you don't say Barry Sanders,

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Speaker 1: I'd probably say, wow, impressive.

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Speaker 2: Dan Orlovsky. I mean with this new uh you know

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Speaker 2: co rule, I don't know if he's got eligibility left.

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Speaker 2: I mean, who's to say, oh, that's right. That rewrites

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Speaker 2: history completely. K Pobby has just screwed up everything for everybody.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's the truth anymore.

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Speaker 6: And I did notice on the telecast they say that

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Speaker 6: Connecticut gives coach Jim Moram four year extension exactly, he

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Speaker 6: signed through twenty twenty twenty eight. This is never gonna end.

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Speaker 6: This is the reign of Yukon football. This is gonna

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Speaker 6: be every Saturday for the next four years. Nine and

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Speaker 6: four is just the start.

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Speaker 2: It's just the start. What's crazy, really quick, if somebody

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Speaker 2: did ask me this, they were like, so as an independent,

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Speaker 2: they don't they're not. They can't qualify for like the

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Speaker 2: G five spot as the last at large. So they

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Speaker 2: the only way they can get into the playoff they

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Speaker 2: have to have a Notre Dame like probably twelve and

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Speaker 2: oh season. Even that I'm not sure would get him in.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, though, it was still a good day.

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Speaker 6: But you know, they're in in the exact same bed

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Speaker 6: as Notre Dame and you know, same type of college

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Speaker 6: football program. Of course, yeah, I knew when the current

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Speaker 6: rules came out for the twelve team playoff, we're going

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Speaker 6: to have another great season. But you can't be a

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Speaker 6: top four seat. Everyone's said that.

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Speaker 2: They were like Notre Dame and Yukon cannot be top

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Speaker 2: four teams. And there was a you know, just people

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Speaker 2: just went crazy when they found that out.

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Speaker 6: It's a fact. One final note NBA, the Knicks in

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Speaker 6: overtime went at Washington. Knicks have won seventh straight one

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Speaker 6: thirty six two. Jalen Brunson fifty five points nine assists.

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Speaker 6: Back to you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Very much, Steve Singer says, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday,

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Speaker 2: Ara and Towards. Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tirereck

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Speaker 2: dot Com Studios. Jmart we talked earlier in the show

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Speaker 2: about the Broncos. Uh, you know, wild game with the

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Speaker 2: with the Bengals a bow Knicks touchdown pass essentially as

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Speaker 2: time expired, there was about eight seconds left, tied the game.

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Speaker 2: It was a Hail Mary fourth down sends it to overtime.

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Speaker 2: Bengals miss a field goal, then get the ball back

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. A deep touchdown or a deep pass sets

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Speaker 2: up a touchdown. I want to get to something Zach

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Speaker 2: Taylor said in just a second before. I do know

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Speaker 2: you're a Broncos fan. Yeah, and I know you just

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Speaker 2: have thoughts on this game in general, just big picture takeaways.

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Speaker 2: As the Bengals do survive in overtime, keeping their slim

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Speaker 2: playoff hopes alive.

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Speaker 1: All you needed was a tie, you know, if you

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Speaker 1: were Denver and you couldn't get that, you needed one

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Speaker 1: first down. I didn't like the play call, But that

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Speaker 1: is something I could have said several times during the

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Speaker 1: course of this game. I've never experienced this as a

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Speaker 1: Broncos fan, and I'm sure a lot of the listeners

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Speaker 1: have experienced it with their teams, but I don't care

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Speaker 1: for it. There is a tension for every offensive play

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Speaker 1: that Denver runs. There's a tension in me, like, I

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Speaker 1: don't watch it relaxed in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 1: I don't watch it excited in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 1: I'm like nervous and anxious before every single snap. I

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Speaker 1: understand it's a rookie quarterback, but I mean generally he's

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Speaker 1: protected the protected the ball pretty well. I mean, at

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Speaker 1: one point in this game, I think he was sixteen

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Speaker 1: of nineteen. You didn't have a ton of yards because

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Speaker 1: he's you know, they've dink and dunk to death, and

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Speaker 1: then they have like one big played two mems that

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Speaker 1: gets some seventy eight yards or something like that. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Sean Payton's play calling. It

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Speaker 1: looks like sometimes they unlock the team, sometimes they have

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Speaker 1: them locked in a prison cell somewhere I've never been.

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Speaker 1: I can't it's so disjointed and weird. The Broncos play

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Speaker 1: some really dramatic football games, but the last couple have

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Speaker 1: not been good football games like this was not well

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Speaker 1: played football across the board with coaches that are just

544
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Speaker 1: having this incredible chess match. It's like which team wants

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Speaker 1: to throw this game away? Worse and outside of Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Burrow played magnificent football, don't get me wrong,

547
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Speaker 1: but his coach tried to take it away from him.

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Speaker 1: His defense tried to take it away from him. Even

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Speaker 1: his running back it looked like was going to try

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Speaker 1: to take it away from him. I don't understand. I

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Speaker 1: understand that Zach Taylor tried to explain, you know, not

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Speaker 1: trying to drown the clock out more at the end

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Speaker 1: of regulation, But that's how the Broncos end up with

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Speaker 1: the touchdown. Yes, the throw that Nicks made to tie

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Speaker 1: the game at the end, Yeah, that's a throw that's

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Speaker 1: not going to be made too often. But he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have the chance for that if you only give them

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Speaker 1: twenty thirty seconds with the football instead of a minute

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Speaker 1: thirty and the time out the way that the Bengals did.

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Speaker 1: The one last thing, I will say, go for two, bro.

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Speaker 1: I understand you're playing for the tie, but giving this

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Speaker 1: thing to a coin toss, I don't like it. You

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Speaker 1: end up having multiple attempts in overtime to win the game.

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Speaker 1: But I would have just gone for two. You're in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: and my best chance is to go ahead and go

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Speaker 1: for the win right there against the defense that they're

567
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Speaker 1: just not very good, and you should be able to

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Speaker 1: call one play to get that job done. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to allow Joe Burrow to potentially go and beat

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Speaker 1: me in overtime, as weird as that game ends up

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Speaker 1: and the missfield goal and all this other stuff. If

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Speaker 1: I'm Sean Paig, I would not have been upset with

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton. He gone for two and the Broncos failed,

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Speaker 1: and then they needed to win next week to get

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs. I don't know who would have as

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Speaker 1: a matter of fact. So again, I don't like the

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Speaker 1: conservative choice to play for overtime, even if you just

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Speaker 1: needed a tie, because the chances it was going to

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Speaker 1: end in a tie weren't that good anyway.

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Speaker 2: So real quick, you kind of mentioned Joe Burrow, you

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Speaker 2: know his coach? Is this is that Zach Taylor was

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Speaker 2: asked about Joe Burrow and really, frankly his MVP candidacy.

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Speaker 2: After the game, here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 7: I don't know that anybody can stand on a field

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Speaker 7: and watch Joe Burrow and say he's not the best

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Speaker 7: player in the world, you know. And then you can

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Speaker 7: transfer that argument to Jamaar Chase as well, you know,

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Speaker 7: and you can argue those.

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Speaker 1: Two to death.

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Speaker 7: But the clearest thing I can say is I would

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Speaker 7: not trade Joe Burrow for any player in the universe.

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Speaker 7: And so to me, that's MVP to me.

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Speaker 2: So real quick, Jamart, I want your opinion. I'll say this,

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Speaker 2: John is my MVP, and I heard VJ and Martin

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Speaker 2: talking about it earlier. I think Josh Allen's my MVP.

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Speaker 2: I also think that there is no player who has,

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Speaker 2: to the point that you just made, had to overcome

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Speaker 2: more in his own organ you know, like relative to

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Speaker 2: like the guys that are winning. I'm not talking about

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Speaker 2: like Cayleb Williams, who's obviously, but like the guys that

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Speaker 2: are in the mix. Like I think Joe Burrow has

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Speaker 2: had to overcome more. I don't know that. I'm I

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Speaker 2: think that that necessarily means he should win MVP, but

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Speaker 2: I will say the betting odds plummeted in a good

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Speaker 2: way for Joe Burrow after this game. He's not the favorite,

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Speaker 2: but the odds are a lot different than they wore

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Speaker 2: about six seven, eight hours ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely, I definitely concur with that. And again

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Speaker 1: there's been this like trendy deal with times this year

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Speaker 1: to go after Burrow. Yeah, and to act like he

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Speaker 1: needs to be doing more. I expect a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of silence real soon. I mean, that's a team that's

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Speaker 1: won four in a row and Burrow has put them

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Speaker 1: in position to win virtually every game. He'll throw five

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Speaker 1: touchdowns and then at the very end of the game

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Speaker 1: he'll get the ball thirty seconds left, not scoring. They're

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Speaker 1: like Burrow overrated, Like it's absurd. He is that good

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Speaker 1: when he's healthy. And they have had a defense that

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Speaker 1: has not lived up to what you've expected from a

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Speaker 1: lou Ana Riumo unit in the past. They've given up

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Speaker 1: a lot of points, they've been incredibly inconsistent, and they

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Speaker 1: have been really bad against big play offenses throughout this season,

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Speaker 1: and he's still managed to handle it. He's dealt with

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Speaker 1: injuries on his offense a lot. Burrow, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: entered the season for the first month feeling anywhere close

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Speaker 1: to one hundred percent. I don't know where he is now,

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Speaker 1: but yes, I agree, I think this is Josh Allen giear. Now.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens when we get to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but it's a regular season award. I think Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: has distinguished himself there. And you can mention some other

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Speaker 1: guys in the mix. You can mention in a Saquan

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Speaker 1: or whoever else that you want to mention. But I agree.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's hard to argue this Bengals

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Speaker 1: team is not a four win team without Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: Like they go the way that they have, in the

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Speaker 1: way that they have performed. He has been responsible for

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Speaker 1: so many of their wins. And yes, you have Chase

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Speaker 1: and you have t Higgins. I understand this, but that

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Speaker 1: guy can find a way to get it done with

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Speaker 1: virtually anybody, and a lot of Chase's success is due

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Speaker 1: to Burrow getting in the ball where he does, just

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Speaker 1: like Burrow's success is due to Chase being the guy.

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Speaker 1: They have great chemistry. That's just kind of how it goes.

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Speaker 1: Usually a quarterback and wide receiver go together. Like Best

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Speaker 1: Picture and Best Director in the Oscars, it usually goes

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Speaker 1: to the same film, and in this case, you're gonna

647
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Speaker 1: get that again. I think that those guys make each

648
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Speaker 1: other better, They make each other MVP level candidates. But

649
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Speaker 1: I would I think Burrow would probably be second on

650
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Speaker 1: my ballot as well, and I do think Lamar needs

651
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Speaker 1: to be mentioned too.

652
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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow only player in NFL history with two hundred

653
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Speaker 2: and fifty plus passing yards and three plus passing tds

654
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Speaker 2: in eight straight games. So we will see, you know,

655
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Speaker 2: if he can close it out with the He needs

656
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Speaker 2: a lot of help next week. Not only do the

657
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: Bengals need to beat Pits, but they would need help.

658
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Speaker 2: But yeah, an incredible, incredible season for Joe Burrow. Fox

659
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio AER towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: Tireck dot Com studios. One team not so much having

661
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Speaker 2: an incredible season, New England Patriots Drod Mayo.

662
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Speaker 1: Seem ka week. Is he gonna be back next year?

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Speaker 2: We'll discuss that next Fox Sports Radio Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio AER Towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the Tyreck dot Com Studios. Top of the hour, we

666
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: will look ahead to the college football playoff games are

667
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Speaker 2: Zoom Tuesday night, New Year's Eve Penn State, Boise, followed

668
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Speaker 2: by three other quarterfinals on New Year's Day. But do

669
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Speaker 2: want to wrap the hour talking the other NFL game

670
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Speaker 2: we talked, of course earlier in the show. The Rams

671
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: beat the Cardinals thirteen to nine. Rams can technically potentially

672
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Speaker 2: clinch a playoff spot tomorrow. They have not officially clinched

673
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 2: the NFC West just yet. Bengals win in overtime, keeping

674
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Speaker 2: slim playoff hopes alive. And then there was the first one.

675
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Speaker 2: J Martin Chargers forty Patriots seven. Patriots finished with one

676
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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty one yards of total offense, eighty five

677
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Speaker 2: passing yards thirteen of twenty four passing in the game,

678
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Speaker 2: about three yards per completion. By the way, coming into today,

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Speaker 2: the New England Patriots twenty ninth in total offense, thirtieth

680
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Speaker 2: in scoring. And I'll be honest, I really until maybe

681
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Speaker 2: the last week or so, it feels like this narrative

682
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Speaker 2: has popped up, probably in the last like ten days

683
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Speaker 2: or so. But with the loss, the Patriots have now

684
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Speaker 2: lost seven straight games, six straight games. Excuse me dating

685
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Speaker 2: back to their last win over the Bears, that was many, many,

686
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Speaker 2: many weeks ago. I bring it up early November, by

687
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Speaker 2: the way, it was the last time they won a game.

688
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: Drod Mayo, Is this a one and done situation for

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Speaker 2: him in New England?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it seems hard to believe because he was

691
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Speaker 1: a hand pick successor for years, it felt like, and

692
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Speaker 1: for him to come in and one year in he's out,

693
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Speaker 1: that seems doesn't seem likely. But they have been really bad.

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Speaker 1: We knew they were going to be bad, but they've

695
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Speaker 1: been really bad. And he's actually not been good lad

696
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Speaker 1: in games. He's had some He's had some definitely, he's

697
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Speaker 1: definitely had some moments of just not making the best decisions.

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Speaker 1: And I think that the media up there had gotten

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Speaker 1: on him a bit as well. And then you recognize

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Speaker 1: that you might really have a quarterback. And that's that's

701
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Speaker 1: the thing. It's like, if you're not sure about the coach,

702
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Speaker 1: but you're sure about the quarterback, that's a problem for

703
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Speaker 1: the coach, and that's a problem for the organization because again,

704
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Speaker 1: the clock on that rookie contract is rolling, and of

705
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Speaker 1: course you don't want to stun his growth. You want

706
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Speaker 1: him to be able to grow properly, and if you

707
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Speaker 1: feel like he's being hindered by what's happening on the sidelines,

708
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Speaker 1: then that becomes an issue. I think that Mayo will

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Speaker 1: get another year as of right now, but I do

710
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Speaker 1: think that the chorus is growing louder. We are hearing

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Speaker 1: more than many of us probably thought. Coming into the year,

712
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Speaker 1: it felt like Mayo was probably gonna be fine for

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Speaker 1: a year and then we were going to see what

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Speaker 1: was going on because they they didn't have a good offseason.

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Speaker 1: It's been tumult for a while and it was going

716
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Speaker 1: to take some time. This is going to be an

717
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Speaker 1: incredibly important offseason. Whether it's him or whoever it is,

718
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Speaker 1: they've got to go spend some money. They've got to

719
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Speaker 1: go bring in some real skill talent and put it

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Speaker 1: around the quarterback and see what they could actually get

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Speaker 1: out of this experiment. But I do think his job

722
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Speaker 1: is probably not as safe as we might have thought,

723
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Speaker 1: but I think he will end up keeping it.

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Speaker 2: Coming into this afternoon or following this afternoon, I should

725
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Speaker 2: say New England is three and thirteen. Giants have the

726
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Speaker 2: worst record in the league at two and thirteen. They

727
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Speaker 2: obviously play on Sunday. There are one, two, three, four,

728
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Speaker 2: five teams all tied with three losses a piece, so

729
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Speaker 2: they could have anywhere from like the two to the

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Speaker 2: seventh pick. I assume you got to go get a

731
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Speaker 2: wide receiver, right, you know, obviously Travis Hunter, you know,

732
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Speaker 2: could be available. Tetuo McMillan from Arizona is another guy

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Speaker 2: that people like. But I assume you got to go

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Speaker 2: get some skill position talent on offense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say so. I mean, I think that

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Speaker 1: Travis Hunter is probably the best bet. But whoever is

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Speaker 1: top of your board when it comes to receivers or

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Speaker 1: skill talent, that's what you've got to go get because

739
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Speaker 1: it's what you don't have right now. We talk about

740
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Speaker 1: how good you know, Burrow looks with who he has

741
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Speaker 1: around him. He certainly made better by who he has

742
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Speaker 1: around him, and he makes them better. You've seen the

743
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Speaker 1: same thing in other parts of the league and other

744
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Speaker 1: places in the league. You got to do the same

745
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Speaker 1: thing for a Drake May And I think that's the

746
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Speaker 1: benefits that you have. If you're the Patriots, you are

747
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Speaker 1: a team that has a horrible record but already has

748
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Speaker 1: a quarterback yep, and you feel like you have a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: A lot of these teams have bad records are going

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Speaker 1: to be in the quarterback sweepstakes, but that's not the

751
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: case for the Patriots. The Patriots can just go get

752
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Speaker 1: the best guy on their board and likely will have

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Speaker 1: their pick.

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Speaker 2: And it'll be interesting saying if they do get the

755
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Speaker 2: number two pick, guy that we're gonna talk about the

756
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: next hour cam Ward. Somebody listen, We're gonna talk cam Ward.

757
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: There's definitely a discourse about cam Ward right now. But

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Speaker 2: I think he'll probably end up being the number two

759
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: pick because I think somebody will want to trade up,

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Speaker 2: even if it isn't a team like the Patriots that

761
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Speaker 2: necessarily need a quarterback. Jacksonville could be in that mix

762
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Speaker 2: as well, so it'd be interesting if they were to

763
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Speaker 2: trade back and maybe pick some stuff up in the process.

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Speaker 2: That's if they get the number two pick again, they

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Speaker 2: there's a five way tie in the lost column for

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Speaker 2: the second pick New York at two to thirteen. That

767
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Speaker 2: is the New York Giants in position to get the

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Speaker 2: number one pick. Fox Sports Radio Aeron Tords Jason Martin,

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Speaker 2: we are broadcasting live from the Tyreck Dot Com Studios

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Speaker 2: and hour of NFL is in the books. When we

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Speaker 2: come back. Oh, we're gonna talk college football. We got

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Speaker 2: four more college football playoff games coming up this week.

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Speaker 2: Plus I just said it cam Ward, there's a discourse

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Speaker 2: floating around. We'll discuss it all next. Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, our two tourres and Martin Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: am Eastern time. Bernie Freddo over The Bernie Freddo Show

782
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Speaker 2: follows us three NFL games on Saturday. As de Seger

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Speaker 2: just told you, we did have a win for the

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles Chargers. They beat New England forty to seven.

785
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Speaker 2: LA clinches a playoff spot. Cincinnati beats Denver thirty to

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Speaker 2: twenty four in overtime, Cincinnati keeping its slim playoff hopes alive.

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Speaker 2: Denver can clinch a playoff berth with a win over

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Speaker 2: Kansas City next week. The Rams go ahead and beat

789
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Speaker 2: the beat. The Ravens beat the Cardinals on Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles has not technically clinched a playoff spot. That's

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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Charger or Los Angeles Rams. Excuse me.

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Speaker 2: They could clinch a playoff spot tomorrow depending on certain results.

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Speaker 2: If not, they can clinch in Week eighteen against Seattle.

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Speaker 2: Jmart audition to NFL. A lot of college football this week.

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Speaker 2: A lot of college by the way, I listen, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't mean to you know, be you know, be whatever.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the right word is. I know

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Speaker 2: you've had some stuff going on in your personal life,

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Speaker 2: but outside of that, have you enjoyed having college football

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Speaker 2: on in the background all these bowl games? You're not

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Speaker 2: one of these people that says there's too many bowl games.

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Speaker 1: Right, I mean, there are too many bowl games. But

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Speaker 1: the thing is they're not required viewing. So I've gotten

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Speaker 1: to where I'm more just sort of ambivalent to it all.

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Speaker 1: I will have in the background more often than not.

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Speaker 1: It's fine to have it on. I don't think that

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Speaker 1: most of these are not particularly compelling. If something gets

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Speaker 1: close and you watch it at the end and you see,

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Speaker 1: you know, what's happening. But I guess I've just at

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Speaker 1: this point I don't care enough to just yell and

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Speaker 1: scream about it. We all know why they exist and

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Speaker 1: what they are. I think we all recognize. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I wanted the twelve team playoffs and why I

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Speaker 1: like it is because we have more games with stakes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we had blowouts last week, yet, but those games mattered.

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Speaker 1: There was a reason for those games to be played,

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Speaker 1: and they were leading somewhere. The bulls that are exhibitions

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Speaker 1: matter in themselves for maybe for some of those fans

819
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Speaker 1: and some of those players to have those experiences, And

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Speaker 1: you know what, that's fine. It doesn't always have to

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Speaker 1: be for you. It doesn't have to be for me.

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Speaker 1: But I am glad again that we are given so

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Speaker 1: many more games now that have legitimate stakes toward crowning

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Speaker 1: a champion. And as such, I'm much less bothered by

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Speaker 1: a bunch of random bowls for teams that you know,

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Speaker 1: had decent to pretty good seasons and are able to

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Speaker 1: kind of celebrate during the holidays.

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Speaker 2: Get into some of those games that quote unquote matter.

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Speaker 2: By the way, certainly, there's been some interesting results in

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Speaker 2: the non playoff Bowl games late last night. You know,

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Speaker 2: USC beating Texas, A and M caused quite an interesting conversation.

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Speaker 2: USC beats a second SEC team this year, A and

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Speaker 2: M loses. So there's been some interesting narratives that have

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Speaker 2: come out of these games, Oklahoma losing the Navy. But

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Speaker 2: let's focus on the games that matter going forward. We

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Speaker 2: have four semi final games starting Tuesday night, Penn State

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Speaker 2: Boise in the Fiesta Bowl that leads into Texas and

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Speaker 2: Arizona State in the Peach Bowl, Rose Bowl, Oregon, Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: and of course the nightcap on New Year's Day, Notre

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Speaker 2: Dame versus Georgia in New Orleans. Should mention, by the way,

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin and I will be on from seven to

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Speaker 2: eleven Pacific, that's ten to two am Eastern doing the

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Speaker 2: recap show. Jason Smith and Mike Harmon nice enough to

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Speaker 2: take the night off so we can fill in. J

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Speaker 2: mart I will let you take this wherever you please.

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Speaker 2: Game that intrigues you, or maybe the question I should ask,

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Speaker 2: what do you believe will be the lead story coming

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Speaker 2: out of those four playoff games Tuesday and Wednesday?

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Speaker 1: I think the game that the game that I'm most

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Speaker 1: excited for is Ohio State Oregon. I want to see

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Speaker 1: that game again. I want to see if the Ohio

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Speaker 1: State that absolutely dismantled Tennessee is a is a one

853
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Speaker 1: hit wonder or if they can take that show on

854
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Speaker 1: the road and live up to that talent yet again.

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Speaker 1: And I know Ryan Day wants to see that too,

856
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Speaker 1: because his honeymoon will last all of about ten days

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Speaker 1: if they go out and lose again, even to an

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Speaker 1: undefeated Oregon team. So I think I'm most excited for

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Speaker 1: that game.

860
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's start with that one, because I'll be honest.

861
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: So you and I were obviously on in this time

862
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: slot last week, and we were coming on after the

863
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: Ohio State Tennessee game, and listen, you and I have

864
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: both been critics of Ryan Day, but it was an

865
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 2: incredible performance. We saw why Vegas still had Ohio State

866
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: as the national championship favorite even after they lost at Oregon,

867
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: even after some of their their you know, ups and

868
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: downs over the course of the season. I'll be honest, though,

869
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: I did feel like, in my opinion, I was a

870
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: little bit surprised to see the discourse. I'm not even

871
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: talking about the betting odds because the betting odds are

872
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: obviously based on you know, analytics and numbers and this

873
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: and that, but it did feel like to me the

874
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 2: discourse immediately went to from Ohio State stings fire, Ryan

875
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: Day shouldn't come back if they lose this game to

876
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: oh They're actually the best team and should now be

877
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: considered the favorite to win the national championship. I'm not

878
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: saying that Vegas odds. I'm not talking about the Vegas odds.

879
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: I'm talking about just the conversation among college football fans.

880
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: Were you as surprised by that as I was, because

881
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: I found it kind of strange that everybody, he felt like,

882
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: just did a complete one on Ohio State right after

883
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 2: that game.

884
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean you saw the talent be the

885
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: talent and all the like, if they if that talent

886
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: shows up, yes, I mean yes, they should be the

887
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: favorite to win it all. I think when you look

888
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: at talent across the board, question is is it going

889
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: to consistently show up? And we don't know the answer

890
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: to that. And the Ryan Day question, I did find

891
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: it amazing that you then had the see we told

892
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: you Ryan Day was good kind of apologists coming out

893
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: of the woodwork, and it wasn't good. It's just, yeah,

894
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 1: the thing is this, And you know, I've even heard

895
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: the argument that it's unfair. It's like, Okay, you can't

896
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: beat Michigan. It's unfair to that that's the only thing

897
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: that matters, and you don't look at the red, then

898
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 1: don't take the job like that. That is the job

899
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: at Ohio State. You either beat Michigan or you got

900
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: a problem. You either compete for Big Ten championships or

901
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: you got a problem. You either right there on the

902
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: doorstep and or winning national championships, or you've got a problem.

903
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: You don't go to Ohio State and become the head

904
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: coach in Columbus to beat Maryland and to beat Purdue,

905
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: and to beat Illinois and to beat Michigan State. You

906
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: go there to dominate your rival as much as possible,

907
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: at least to win Big Ten championships and to win

908
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: national titles. And Ryan Day has been unable to do

909
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: those things. So to argue that it's been unfair critique

910
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: is ridiculous to men. I've heard a few other people

911
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: say the exact same thing I just did, and I

912
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: think that that's the right argument here. But again, I

913
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: don't think that It's crazy to look at Ohio State

914
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: and say, oh, Okay, that's the team we've been waiting for.

915
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: Now they've woken up because it's the playoff. I'm not

916
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: willing to go there quite yet, just because I need

917
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: to see that more than one time in a row.

918
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: This team coming off that Michigan loss, which is as

919
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: battle loss as that university has sustained in twenty years,

920
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: probably maybe even more. That team showed up with a

921
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: chip on its shoulder from the sideline all the way

922
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: through everybody wearing a uniform, and it was a buzzsaw

923
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: that night. Are they still gonna have that same energy

924
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: against Oregon? Are they upset that Oregon beat them? They

925
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: feel like they should have done it. It was kind

926
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 1: of a weird finish to that game. And Will Howard

927
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: wants to make amends for the way that that game

928
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: ended where they weren't able to get the playoff because

929
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: of you know, him giving himself up there late all

930
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: of those things. Are they going to be playing Are

931
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: they going to show up with that kind of energy

932
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: or are they going to show up and be pretty

933
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: good but not up to the level of their talent,

934
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: Because that will not be good enough that will get

935
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 1: them beat against Oregon. If they show up against Oregon

936
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: on the road or you know, going across the rose Ball.

937
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: If they go there and they lose that game by

938
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: double digits, we still have the same problem that we've

939
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: already had. And Ryan They's seat becomes incredibly hot again.

940
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: I don't care how many people say that he was

941
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: never gonna get fired. You will never get me to

942
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: believe that if they had lost to Tennessee. But even

943
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: if they go and get fairly handled by Oregon, it'll

944
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: be the same problem.

945
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: So I agree with with everything that you just said,

946
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: is that I don't believe he's out of the woodwork.

947
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: And you know, look, neither of us is rooting against him.

948
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 2: I just have Yeah, I just have doubts and and

949
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: I think the thing with Ryan Day is we've seen

950
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 2: these performances in big games. It's just we don't see

951
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 2: them consistently. I mean, you look at this year. You

952
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 2: go to Oregon, you're a play away from beating them.

953
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: The next week you come back and play Nebraska and

954
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: it's a one score game, a game that you could

955
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: have easily lost. You know, you go and play Indiana,

956
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: you destroy them as a top ten team, and obviously

957
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: we could debate that Indiana have been there, whatever, but

958
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: that was a big game in the moment, and then

959
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: you immediately lose to Michigan. And so I think that's

960
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: my concern with them, is that it feels like no

961
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 2: one to your point, no one has ever questioned the talent.

962
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: The big question is is it Nobody's ever questioned the talent.

963
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: The big question is can you get it consistently? And

964
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 2: by the way, nobody's questioned that Ryan Day can coach

965
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 2: up his team in a big game, except maybe outside

966
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: of Michigan, which is obviously a huge game. I'm not

967
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: undermining undermanning it. But he has won big games before.

968
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: It's just again, he hasn't won consistently, and he certainly

969
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: hasn't beaten Michigan. First of all, let me ask you this, Oregon.

970
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a team and I know it

971
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: was only a one point win, but this is a

972
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: team that did beat Ohio State at home earlier in

973
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 2: the year. This is a team that did beat Penn

974
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: State a few weeks ago. This is a team that really,

975
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: outside of basically the three playoff teams that they played

976
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: this year, Ohio State, Boise and Penn State really kind

977
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 2: of destroyed everybody. Is this team being overlooked at the

978
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: Oregon Ducks. Do you think that they're being overlooked coming

979
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: into this game? Maybe because of how good Ohio State

980
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: looked when we last saw them.

981
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: Perhaps I think that Oregon's just kind of despite the

982
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: fact that they have been consistent all year long. I mean, look,

983
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: they had to you know, escape the feed against Boise State,

984
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: they didn't look great against Wisconsin. You know, they had

985
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: a couple of games where they had to earn it

986
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: a little bit more. But I think they've just kind

987
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: of consistently handled their business to the extent that you

988
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: just kind of take it for granted. And Ohio State,

989
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: because they've everything they've done has been full of drama

990
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: down the stretch, and there's I mean, there's no questions

991
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: about the coach there. I mean, Dan Lanning's fine unless

992
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: he wanted to go somewhere else. You don't have anybody

993
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: clamoring for that. Everything's kind of been positive surrounding them.

994
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel's been excellent. Everything's rolling out there, and so

995
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: I think that as a result, it's kind of it

996
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: hasn't gone under the radar. It just hasn't had the

997
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: headlines because there hasn't been as much juice there. It's

998
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: just everything's going good there. If they win at all,

999
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it should surprise anybody. I don't know

1000
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 1: that they are being underappreciated. I think they might be

1001
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: being under discussed. Agree, because that pizazz that comes with

1002
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: the drama in Columbus and some of the other storylines

1003
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: surrounding some of these other teams and even the teams

1004
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: that didn't get in, is just more interesting for the

1005
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: pundit class.

1006
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: So we'll skip by the way just a quick unless

1007
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: you see an upset coming, because I want to get

1008
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: to Notre Dame Georgia really quick. But yeah, do you

1009
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: see an upset coming in Texas, Arizona State or Penn

1010
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 2: State Boise? We can be quick on both of those

1011
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: because I'll be honest, great stories, but I don't see

1012
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: either of those teams getting the win there Boise and

1013
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 2: Aera State.

1014
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: That is, yeah, I don't either. I don't either, and

1015
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: I think this will be we'll be changing up who's

1016
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: getting the buys and all of these things. They've been

1017
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: excellent stories. I don't think Arizona State has seen a

1018
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: challenge like what they're going to see from Texas's defense,

1019
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: and I think that's going to potentially be the difference there,

1020
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: and really the same thing. I mean, Penn State, all

1021
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: they have to do basically is bottle up the run

1022
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: game and force the quarterback to try and beat them,

1023
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: because I don't think that he can. So I do

1024
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: think Texas and Penn State will advance. And when you

1025
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: asked me earlier, you know, well, was a game I

1026
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: was looking most forward to and all this, I think

1027
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: that that's a different story than the one that I'm

1028
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: most intrigued by, and I think that's the one we're

1029
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: about to talk about, and that's Notre Dame in Georgia.

1030
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about it. Georgia, of course, is coming

1031
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: into this game not only without Carson Beck. He is

1032
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 2: out for the year. He actually declared for the NFL

1033
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 2: Draft today to Seger told us that earlier in the show,

1034
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: So not only is he out for this game, he's

1035
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: out for the season. Gunner Stockton obviously getting his first

1036
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: career start going up against a really good Notre Dame

1037
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: defense Georgia outside of Carson Beck. You know, does have

1038
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: is coming off two weeks where they have not played

1039
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 2: a game yet. You know, as Kirby Smart famously said

1040
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: after the SEC Championship game, thank god we got to

1041
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 2: buy because Greg Saki sent us all over the place

1042
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: to play all these big road games. So Georgia of

1043
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: course SEC champ. And I'm having a trouble with this one,

1044
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 2: j Mark, because like you know, I was saying about

1045
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: this is and I think it applies to all these teams.

1046
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: We get so caught up in the most recent thing

1047
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 2: that we seen. And Georgia was admittedly awesome in that

1048
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: SEC Championship game. They also easily could have lost to

1049
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech in the final game of the regular season.

1050
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: Maybe should have lost to Georgia Tech in the final

1051
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: game of the regular season. They're a team that you

1052
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: and I were on for so many of those big games.

1053
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: You know, you lose to Alabama, Okay, that's fine, but

1054
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: you know you just get blown out of the water

1055
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: early in the game and then are playing from behind.

1056
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 2: Easily could have lost to Kentucky, did lose to Old Miss.

1057
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying Old Miss and Alabama on the

1058
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 2: road are bad losses, but I'm just saying, this is

1059
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: not an infallible team. This is not the Georgia team

1060
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: from even two three years ago when they were running

1061
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: through everybody, and Notre Dame is a good football team,

1062
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 2: plays real defense. What do you expect from this game?

1063
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: Again?

1064
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: You and I will be on air for that game

1065
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: as it goes final, filling in for Jason Smith and

1066
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: Mike Harmon at ten pm on Wednesday night.

1067
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: So in answer to the question that you gave earlier

1068
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: about what are we going to be talking about? What

1069
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: is the world going to be talking about after January First,

1070
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance it'll be Gunner Stockton

1071
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: and it's either going to be a real positive or

1072
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: a real negative. That's why this game intrigues because we

1073
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: really don't know what we're gonna get there. We just don't.

1074
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he looks pretty good the little bit that

1075
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: we've seen of him, But this is a completely different animal.

1076
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: This is a completely different challenge. This is four quarters

1077
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: against a good defensive Notre Dame team that is fundamentally sound,

1078
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: that has been steamrolling teams ever since the blemish against

1079
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois. This is a team that can absolutely beat them.

1080
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: This is the best Notre Dame team in terms of

1081
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: this is the best potential that they have to actually

1082
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: make a really really deep run that we've seen in

1083
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: quite some time, and George's defense hasn't been quite as dominant,

1084
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: So Stockton is actually going to have to do something here.

1085
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that they can just run the ball

1086
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: and play defense and beat Notre Dame. I don't think

1087
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: that it's gonna work that way. I think that their

1088
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 1: strategy is going to be to try to get Riley

1089
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: Leonard to throw the ball and try to kind of

1090
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: curtain Ail to run on the other side. But what

1091
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: is Gunner Stockton gonna do? And I don't think that

1092
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: we have anywhere enough data points to address it. We

1093
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: just don't know. So that I think is why it

1094
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 1: is likely to be a story. If he goes out

1095
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 1: and puts on a show man, the discourse surrounding that

1096
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: the next day is gonna be immense. If he goes

1097
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 1: out there and it's kind of mediocre and Notre Dame gets,

1098
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, gets to win as a result of that,

1099
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: that becomes the storyline. It's a little bit unfortunate for

1100
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: Notre Dame that they don't get to play against Carson

1101
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: Beck only because even if they win, there's gonna be

1102
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 1: a built in narrative surrounding that even if Notre Dame

1103
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: proves out would have proven out to be the better team.

1104
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they would. I'm just saying that

1105
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: there's always gonna be a kind of side eye attached

1106
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: to this if Notre Dame does indeed beat Georgia. And

1107
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: it's largely because Gunner Stockton goes out there and goes

1108
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: like ten of twenty six with a couple of interceptions

1109
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: or a fumble or stripsack or something like that. But

1110
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: that may exactly be what we get. I kind of

1111
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: tend to think Gunner Stockton's gonna be fine. He's probably

1112
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good. Question, is pretty good gonna be enough?

1113
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: Great point by you, Even if Notre Dame wins, it

1114
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: does feel like the discourse is going to be, well,

1115
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: what would it have been if Carson Beck was playing

1116
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: Carson back? By the way was got up and down

1117
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: this year? If he actually watched him, and I know

1118
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: you and I did. But for people that are kind

1119
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: of just locking in on college football right now, kind

1120
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: of an up and down year for Carson Beck. But

1121
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: obviously it's unfortunate that he did have the injury. He

1122
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 2: is not only out for the season, but his Georgia

1123
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 2: career is over. He announced this week or he announced

1124
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: today actually, that he is going to declare for the

1125
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 2: NFL Draft, So Gunner Stockton gets the start. And again

1126
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: a quick reminder the game. The playoff games start Tuesday night,

1127
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve, Penn State and Boise in the Fiesta Bowl, Texas,

1128
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: Arizona State, Oregon, Ohio State, and of course the game

1129
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: we're just talking about Notre Dame Georgia are the nightcap

1130
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 2: that those are all on Wednesday, New Year's Day. And oh,

1131
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: by the way, I should mention that Jason Martin and

1132
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 2: I will be on air filling in for Jason Smith

1133
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: and Mike harmon ten PM to two am, so we

1134
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: are gonna have a full four hours or we're probably

1135
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: just gonna be talking about those college football playoff games.

1136
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: Do you like that, by the way, that one of

1137
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: those games is not played on New Year's any other

1138
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: three are? I mean, I get it, I get where

1139
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: you're playing and all of those things, but kind of

1140
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: feels like all four of those games should be played

1141
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: on the same day.

1142
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 2: I have no fundamental issue with it. And I will

1143
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 2: also say I am somebody that I'm just the most

1144
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: selfish person ever with the remote. And it's like everybody

1145
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: whenever I go to like even New Christmas Eve, you know,

1146
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: like I feel so bad because I guess just because

1147
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 2: of our business, and you know, there's always a game

1148
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: to watch. Even Christmas Eve, it was like, Aaron, what

1149
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 2: should we put on? Like everyone was waiting for me

1150
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 2: to decide, and so I just think it'll be cool

1151
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 2: to kind of have a game on, you know, probably

1152
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: up until about eleven pm Eastern or so, you know,

1153
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 2: take us right into the New Year's Eve festivities. So

1154
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 2: I actually don't mind it. I would rather have that

1155
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: than the void of having nothing on and just have

1156
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: I hate to put it like this, but having to

1157
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: entertain people and having to do whatever. Obviously, my family

1158
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: and I aren't gonna be doing much, you know, knowing

1159
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: that you and I are gonna be doing a four

1160
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 2: hour show the next day, it's probably gonna be pretty light.

1161
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: But I like there. I like that there's a game

1162
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: on New Year's Eve. I'm not gonna lie.

1163
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: So okay, Well, I mean I guess I used to

1164
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: get down with the Peach Bowl the night before, right,

1165
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: Like you used to have the Peach Bowl in New

1166
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: Year's Eve, and that was what wherever I was, that

1167
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: was generally the game that was on there. A lot

1168
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: of us would watch that while we were you know,

1169
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: having fun and doing everything that was going on there.

1170
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 1: I think it's just something about the fact that those

1171
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: four games being the games that they are, with those stakes,

1172
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: it just feels like a three year played on one day.

1173
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: Why would all four of them not? But you know,

1174
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: I guess I don't have a fundamental I like the

1175
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: fact that we have two days of games that we

1176
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: really need to pay attention to. I just guess. I guess,

1177
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Speaker 1: I just it just seems a little bit weird that

1178
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: you have one of them played and then the other

1179
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: three the next day.

1180
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: It's a fair point, by the way, should mention I

1181
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: mentioned this earlier. The two semi final games are on

1182
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: a Thursday night and a Friday night. So that's some

1183
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: bizarre stuff right there. The college football fans will have

1184
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 2: to get used to Fox Sports Radio aer Toris Jason

1185
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live from the Tyrek dot Com studios. Speaking

1186
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: of bizarre things, college football fans have to get used

1187
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,919
Speaker 2: to Pop Tarts Bowl was today. We aren't talking about

1188
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: the edible mascot jmart but there was an interesting discourse

1189
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: that came out of the game. We'll discuss that next.

1190
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Aer Torris,

1191
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the tyreck dot

1192
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,920
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1193
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,560
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1194
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,680
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1195
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1196
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1197
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,480
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1198
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,920
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Speaker 2: Interesting discourse emerged from the Pop Tarts Bowl. We're gonna

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01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: get to that in just a moment. Before we do, though,

1201
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: let's get it over the news desk. Steve de Sager,

1202
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 2: what is Trenday?

1203
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 6: Hello once again. You know earlier in the night we

1204
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 6: told you there's one notable performance from the NBA there

1205
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 6: too now actually, but New York when it won its

1206
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 6: overtime game at Washington this evening. The Knicks got Jalen

1207
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 6: Brunson's fifty five points and nine assists in that win.

1208
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 6: One thirty six, one thirty two in ot Knicks had

1209
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 6: one seventh straight and this is just gone final for Dallas.

1210
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 6: Kyrie Irving has scored forty six points, but they lost

1211
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 6: at Portland. Tried the fourth quarter comeback, outscored them by

1212
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 6: eleven in the fourth, but fell short one twenty six,

1213
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 6: one twenty two against the Blazers, which means just one

1214
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 6: game still going, and that's in La, about nine minutes

1215
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 6: to go, Lakers leading the Kings one thirteen ninety three.

1216
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 6: In case you didn't hear, the Kings fired coach Mike

1217
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 6: Brown yesterday, so this is the debut for the interim

1218
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 6: coach Doug Christie, who is long a fan favorite in

1219
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 6: Los Angeles, where this game is tonight Sacramento Queens. He says,

1220
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 6: tongue in cheek. Three NFL games tonight capped by the

1221
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 6: Rams home victory over Arizona thirteen to nine Poka Nakua

1222
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 6: ten receptions, one hundred and twenty nine yards. Bengals in

1223
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 6: overtime beat the Broncos thirty to twenty four, t Higgins

1224
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 6: three touchdown receptions, including the game winner, and the Chargers

1225
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 6: Justin Herbert through three TD passes as LA clinched a

1226
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 6: playoff berth in the AFC, winning easily at New England

1227
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 6: forty to seven. The last of the college football bowl

1228
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 6: games tonight is now a final number twenty two. Army

1229
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 6: has won twenty seven to six over Louisiana Tech at

1230
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 6: the Independence Bowl. BYU dominated Colorado at the Alamo Bowl

1231
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 6: thirty six fourteen Top twenty match up in Orlando went

1232
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 6: to Iowa State over Miami forty two to forty one.

1233
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,439
Speaker 6: In college basketball Top twenty five match up in Los

1234
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 6: Angeles at the LA Clippers New Arena, UCLA beat Gonzaga

1235
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 6: sixty five sixty two, The Bruins in the final minute

1236
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 6: five for five on free throws while the Zags missed

1237
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 6: a free throw to tie with eight seconds left. Thirteenth

1238
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 6: ranked Texas A and m ripped Abilee Christian ninety two

1239
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 6: to fifty four at Memphis Tigers over number sixteen Ole

1240
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 6: Miss eighty seven to seventy. Tigers led by two at

1241
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 6: the half, and Utah State on a late three pointer

1242
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 6: one at number twenty San Diego State sixty seven to

1243
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 6: sixty six. Among the eleven NHL games, Carolina five to

1244
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 6: two winner over New Jersey, Tampa Bay won sixty two

1245
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 6: over the Rangers. Washington a five to two winner at Toronto.

1246
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Speaker 2: Back to you by the way to Stigera. I actually

1247
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 2: went to that un Clagains Zagaga before. It was a

1248
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: beautiful arena. First time I've been. Have you been in then?

1249
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 2: It is insane. It is futuristic, like, uh, there's a

1250
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: lot of bells and whistles in that place. Let me

1251
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: put I'll say this. You know I I always was

1252
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 2: thought it was weird. You know, hey, just stay at Staples.

1253
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 2: Why do you need to build a new arena.

1254
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 6: They were just renters for twenty five years.

1255
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 2: They were, But now I get it it Balmer wanted

1256
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,959
Speaker 2: something that was his. It is a beautiful arena. Game

1257
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 2: was kind of iffy for about thirty five minutes. Last

1258
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 2: five minutes or so, We're awesome, but but the arena

1259
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 2: was beautiful. It was a great Ucla crowd too. As

1260
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: you know, Ucla can kind of be hit or missed sometimes,

1261
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 2: but great Ucla crowd. They get to win there.

1262
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 6: So and for those who are unaware it's essentially across

1263
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 6: the street from the Rams.

1264
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Speaker 2: Literally, yes, yeah, it is a beautiful arena so far.

1265
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 2: And by the way, really quick, this is very random,

1266
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: but credit to everyone in Englewood because the traffic was

1267
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 2: really kind of moving because the game got out around

1268
01:04:56,200 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: three thirty, game was coming in and it really everybody

1269
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 2: did a good job of, you know, kind of coordinating

1270
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 2: those two events where you say something.

1271
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Speaker 6: I was, yeah, when you were talking about those two

1272
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 6: events going on kind of at the same time, did

1273
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 6: you notice that you with the flex scheduling and the

1274
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 6: NFL at a really late date saying which three games

1275
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 6: are gonna be today's three games? New England Patriots had

1276
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 6: a home game at the same time as the Fenway

1277
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 6: bawl Oh it's going on in Boston. Did not know

1278
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 6: the Yukon win.

1279
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 2: Well, Chargers looked really good, Huskies looked really good, and

1280
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 2: tar Heels and Patriots not so much.

1281
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 6: And Bill Belichick showing up for the North Carolina.

1282
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say this, Jamart. I want to get to

1283
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Speaker 2: Kim Ward, but I have one quick thought on that,

1284
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 2: like my whole belief that Bill Belichick really By the way,

1285
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 2: thank you to Sager. We'll get back to you in

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01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 2: just a few minutes. I kind of have a take

1287
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 2: like Belichick, I just don't think he really understands like

1288
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 2: the little things that you're gonna have to do to

1289
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: be a successful college head coach, and like this sounds stupid,

1290
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: but I feel like that's kind of a metaphor. So

1291
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: if people don't know North Carolina play their bowl game

1292
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: in Boston today. I know it's a little weird Boston whatever,

1293
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 2: but I think that's like kind of an example of Belichick,

1294
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 2: Like you probably just show up and shake hands and

1295
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 2: do an interview because it's good for the brand and

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Speaker 2: it's good for the programming.

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Speaker 1: Didn't do it.

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Speaker 2: It's not an everything, But I think it's kind of

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01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 2: a little tiny metaphor for like, does he really know

1300
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 2: the it can't it's not just about x's and o's,

1301
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 2: you gotta do all these other things. I thought that

1302
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 2: was a tiny metaphor. Maybe I'm overreacting though.

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01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: Jmark, Well, I mean I didn't see his rational, but

1304
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: i'd seen the story days before the game that he

1305
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be there, and I figured maybe he just

1306
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: didn't want to upstate. He wanted to give this team

1307
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: the stage and not be there as a distraction or

1308
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: anything like that. That's how I read it, but I

1309
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: don't know, like because I didn't Sorry, brother, I didn't

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01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: watch that It's Connecticut North Carolina game and any kind

1311
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: of detailed today, I don't know if that if that

1312
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: was his stinking or if it was just like, I

1313
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: don't want to do that, and so he's just not

1314
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: going to. I think the larger point, though, is the

1315
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: right one, which is coaching in college is so much

1316
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: more than the x'es and o's that he's been used

1317
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: to trying to handle any NFL. That's where I just

1318
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: don't see how this works, because I don't think he's

1319
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: gonna want any part of what he has to do,

1320
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,919
Speaker 1: whether today is an example of that or not. There

1321
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: are so many little things that are gonna feel, I think,

1322
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: increasingly and really fast to him, like just straight up

1323
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: new senses, like things that he's just flat out not

1324
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: gonna like at all. And so this either ends up

1325
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: a Steve Belichick show pretty fast, or it's gonna really

1326
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: spiral out of control quickly because I just don't think

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01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: he's long for the job. Because based on everything you

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01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: know about Bill Belichick the control that he wants and

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01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: all of these things. I just can't imagine that all

1330
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: these little details of college football are dotting the i's

1331
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: and crossing the t's that don't have anything to do

1332
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: with your game planning and how good a defense you

1333
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: can call. Uh, those are not going to be fun

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01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: for him at all.

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Speaker 2: So I agree with that. By the way, speaking of

1336
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 2: just weird stuff that happens in college football, let's get

1337
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 2: very quickly to the cam Ward discourse from today. So

1338
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: de Seger just told you we did have the Pop

1339
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 2: Tarts Bowl earlier in the day. Iowa State wins forty

1340
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 2: two to forty one.

1341
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: Apparently cam Ward just likes to warm his in the

1342
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 1: microwave and take it out. He hasn't want it to

1343
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: be fully toasted. He only wants it about halfway.

1344
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, whatever it was, it was an interesting day. So,

1345
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 2: by the way, it's interesting because like the people that

1346
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 2: run the bowl game really hyped up, like, hey, this

1347
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 2: guy is maybe the number two pick in the draft.

1348
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 2: He's playing in this game, like, you know, the same

1349
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 2: way shand Or Sanders and Travis Hunter, to their credit,

1350
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 2: played in the alme Bolt didn't go well, but like

1351
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 2: cam Ward. It was like, oh, no, he's playing, even

1352
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 2: though he's a potential number two, number three pick in

1353
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 2: the NFL draft. Bring it up because for people who

1354
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: miss this story, played in the first half through three

1355
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 2: touchdown passes, which set an NCAA record if you include

1356
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 2: his fcsda's at Incarnate Word, his time at Washington State,

1357
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 2: and his time at Miami, one hundred and fifty six

1358
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 2: career touchdown passes that is the most all time in

1359
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 2: college football history. Then, after he set the record, was

1360
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 2: pulled and sat out the second half that included a

1361
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 2: drive late in the game when Miami trailed he could

1362
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 2: have come back in helped the team win. And I

1363
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 2: will say it really did become kind of a conversation

1364
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 2: on social media of if you show up to the game,

1365
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 2: if you suit up, and you play in the first half,

1366
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,799
Speaker 2: why are you not playing in the second half, especially

1367
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 2: when your team needs you to win? And again, I

1368
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 2: think it's worth noting the alternative as well, is if

1369
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 2: you had just decided weeks ago, hey, I'm not playing

1370
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: in this game. I've proven everything there is to prove

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01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 2: that before line. So I guess the question is, did

1372
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 2: you have a problem with the decision to show up,

1373
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 2: set the record, sit out the second half when your

1374
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 2: team could have used you to win.

1375
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, because he didn't have to play in

1376
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: the game at all. He did play, and he broke

1377
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: the record, which will probably last not very long because

1378
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel will break it pretty quick. But him not

1379
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 1: coming back in the game, I mean, I think it

1380
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: just shows that the Bowl game didn't mean anything. If

1381
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 1: you and Mario Christobal didn't comment on it after the

1382
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: game at all, I wouldn't doubt that the coaching staff

1383
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: was well aware that that was what was going to happen.

1384
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: I mean, LSU had the exact same thing happened last year.

1385
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: The difference was they ended up coming back to win

1386
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 1: that game. But Malite Neighbors broke the receiving record and

1387
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: then checked out of the Relyoquest Bowl. Nobody even remembers that.

1388
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: As now he's almost done with his first year in

1389
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: purgatory with the New York Giants, But he looks like

1390
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: he's got a really bright future, and you just kind

1391
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 1: of move on from it because we're now used to

1392
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: the early opt out. He did go, he did show

1393
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: up for his team, He did play a half, and

1394
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 1: he played very, very well. The only thing I was

1395
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: thinking in my head, I was like, maybe you don't

1396
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: want to come back in because he's tired of bailing

1397
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: out the defense. Sure, but not to be as negative

1398
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: about it. I just kind of shrugged my shoulders and say,

1399
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: I'd have been fine if he had opted out completely

1400
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 1: because the injury risk and you know what happens if

1401
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: he does have a Matt Carroll kind of moment and

1402
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: that affects whatever he's going to do going forward, sets

1403
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 1: him back in his career. Maybe he never becomes what

1404
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 1: he could be, or doesn't even get picked in the

1405
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: same spot because he's going to miss a year. You know,

1406
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 1: then everybody would second guess why he would have played

1407
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 1: in this game in the first place. He was gonna

1408
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: lose no matter what unless he just played the whole

1409
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: thing and somehow came out unscathed. I just I have

1410
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: a hard time being too upset with the business decision

1411
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: that was made, especially considering like it or not, it's

1412
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: not cam Ward was Miami born and bred the whole time.

1413
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he played for multiple universities. He came in

1414
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: for a year like a mercenary. He did everything that

1415
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,799
Speaker 1: you wanted him to do. If you had a defense,

1416
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: you'd be playing in the college football playoff right now.

1417
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: He gave you all that he had. I just find

1418
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 1: it hard to get too upset at him looking towards

1419
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 1: his future rather than any kind of a risk. You know,

1420
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,759
Speaker 1: after breaking that record, you can just say that getting

1421
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 1: the record was selfish and you've been better off not

1422
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: playing that part. I understand. I also think that I

1423
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: feel like most Miami fans would just be happy they

1424
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 1: got to see him one more time, even if they

1425
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: can get to see him for four quarters.

1426
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one. I'll just be quick because I

1427
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 2: want to get back to Seger. I know, and I

1428
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 2: say this sometimes, but I know when we come on

1429
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 2: these airwaves, everybody wants us to have a big, strong,

1430
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 2: bold opinion about everything. I just can't get too worked

1431
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 2: up about this man. You know, I'm happy that we

1432
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:50,520
Speaker 2: got to see him a little bit more. I think strategically,

1433
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 2: probably it would have made sense either play the whole

1434
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: game or don't play at all. I just there's too

1435
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 2: much serious crap to decision. There's too much arguing with

1436
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 2: se fans over whether Bama should have been in or

1437
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 2: not and all the other discourses that we have over

1438
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 2: the course of a week in sports, that this is

1439
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 2: just one I can't get mad at. I was kind

1440
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: of surprised when I heard weeks ago that he planned

1441
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 2: on playing in this game, so I'm happy that we

1442
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 2: got to see it. I wish him luck. By the way,

1443
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: I did see that the Giants had a lot of

1444
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 2: their brass there. Joe Shane obviously the GM was at

1445
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 2: this game. So I just I can't get worked up

1446
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 2: about it.

1447
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: I really can't.

1448
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 2: And and by the way, I don't I think this

1449
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: will be a question that NFL teams probably ask in

1450
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 2: the process. I don't think this is something that it's like, oh, yeah,

1451
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 2: the Raiders took them, took cam Ward off their board

1452
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: because he set out the second half. It's like, everybody,

1453
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 2: chill out. Yeah, I've said what I had to say.

1454
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 2: I just can't get worked up j Martin about this.

1455
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 2: But cam Ward does sit out the second half against

1456
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 2: against Iowa State. Iowa State rallies to win the pop

1457
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 2: Tarts Bowl, where we do have, yes, the edible mascot

1458
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: at the pop Tarts Bowl. So Fox Sports Radio ertors

1459
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: Jason Martin will come back when we do. Steve Disager,

1460
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: He's got the extended update on everything you missed from

1461
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 2: what was a very busy, very busy last Saturday of

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01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Disager's up next with his exten extended update.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio er

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01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,560
Speaker 2: tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com studios.

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Speaker 2: Love you, Mary, Appreciate Mary. I told her, I said,

1466
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 2: we don't have to turn off the Christmas music just

1467
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 2: because Christmas is over. It's still December. Terrace still stays

1468
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 2: up for another week or two, or six or eight

1469
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 2: into February. Tell you what enough from Taurus. Let's get

1470
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 2: over the news desk. Disager let us know what's trending

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Speaker 2: in this world right now.

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Speaker 6: And she hits it with a classic.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, give us some night, King Cole can't

1474
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: good enough sensational.

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Speaker 6: By the way, are you guys aware that that was

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01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 6: written decades ago in the neighborhood right by Warner Brothers,

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01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 6: right by where our sister station is, the Dodger station

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01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 6: in La on a ninety degree day in July. I

1479
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 6: did not know that absolutely. By the way, as you

1480
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 6: were talking about Bill Belichick, and he's not going to

1481
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 6: want to do these things that college football coaches have

1482
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 6: to do. I just pardon me for laughing. There is

1483
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 6: one name that came to mind as soon as you

1484
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 6: began that conversation, and that is Chip Kelly, the guy

1485
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 6: left UCLA as head coach to become offensive coordinator in

1486
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 6: Ohio State just goo so he could return to quote,

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01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 6: pure coaching.

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01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 2: Well, and in basketball, I've seen it too, Patrick Ewing,

1489
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 2: Chris Mullin, these guys that have NBA backgrounds, and I

1490
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 2: just think, you know, if one if you've never been

1491
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 2: in that space, but two like these NBA guys, and

1492
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 2: I think Belichick would fit in this category as well. Well,

1493
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 2: you got one hundred million dollars in the bank, Like

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01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's it's hard to sit on a zoom

1495
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 2: with a seventeen year old and you know, hey, I'm

1496
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 2: gonna commit to you. No, Well, but I need another

1497
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty k because Miami. You know, I'm

1498
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 2: just using Miami's It's just I just think it's a

1499
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 2: lot of little stuff that's going to add up quick as.

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Speaker 6: You put it this way, as the La Times put

1501
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 6: it this way. Of the former UCLA football coach this

1502
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 6: past spring, Chip Kelly put in a minimal effort in

1503
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 6: recruiting barely engaged boosters, did next to nothing to enhance

1504
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 6: his team's name, image and likeness efforts. Let that sink in.

1505
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 6: The highest paid state employee in California did not want

1506
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 6: to do his job, so he left end quote.

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01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 2: I mean that's pretty descriptive.

1508
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he just thought, I'm Chip Kelly,

1509
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna work.

1510
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 6: Or Belichick says, didn't I just hire a CEO for football?

1511
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 6: Can't they just do all that stuff. I'm just a

1512
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 6: football guy.

1513
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 2: Well they can.

1514
01:16:58,479 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 6: It's just was he there today?

1515
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 2: He was not at the game. I might be overreacting.

1516
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 2: I think that's something because you know, if he goes yes,

1517
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,919
Speaker 2: you stand on the sideline, you do the cheeky interview

1518
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 2: about how excited you are, and then you know, we're

1519
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 2: maybe playing the audio on the show. They're playing it

1520
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 2: on Sports Center tonight. It's just a little thing when

1521
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:24,560
Speaker 2: you're trying to sell your organization, your program. It's not everything.

1522
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 2: But maybe I'm overreacting. But to me, it's not nothing either.

1523
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 6: And it's not just a football program. It's actually part

1524
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 6: of a university campus and has such a deep attachment

1525
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 6: to people have been attached to the university, not just

1526
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 6: a team. It really goes deeper than professional sports. As

1527
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 6: far as cam Ward and Miami losing in Orlando to

1528
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 6: Iowa State in the Pop Tarts Bowl today, Tim Reynolds,

1529
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 6: longtime Associated Press writer, tweeted tonight cam Ward did not

1530
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 6: opt out at halftime. Miami had to evaluate Emery Williams

1531
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 6: today as well. That was important on the field, and

1532
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 6: I bet most fans would have rather taken two quarters

1533
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 6: of cam Ward over no quarters of cam Ward. Daniel

1534
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 6: Jeremiah is a great NFL scouting reporter, has been for years,

1535
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,600
Speaker 6: used to work in scouting departments in the NFL. He

1536
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 6: is the Chargers radio analyst, and he tweeted tonight, I've

1537
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 6: been working all day, so I didn't know all those

1538
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 6: specifics of this, but this cam Ward dialogue seems silly.

1539
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 6: Whether it's one play, one series out, or one half,

1540
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 6: don't care. I would be shocked if any NFL team

1541
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 6: moves in one spot in the draft because of today.

1542
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 6: Replace his name with Christian McCaffrey or any of the

1543
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 6: hundred plus guys that sat out Bowl games. So over

1544
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 6: the last five to seven years. Teams do not care.

1545
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,719
Speaker 6: It is a non issue period. So then Softy Maller,

1546
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 6: the longtime Seattle radio host, He says, we've normalized quitters

1547
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 6: in college football for just reasons or not. Is there

1548
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 6: any scenario left where you would criticize a player for

1549
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 6: quitting on his or her team. Daniel says, if you

1550
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 6: sat out a playoff game, you'll get criticized. That's totally

1551
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 6: fair from an NFL standpoint. These other bowl games are

1552
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 6: glorified spring games. It is what it is. The latest

1553
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 6: of the glorified spring games ended in Shreveport with Army

1554
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 6: beating Louisiana Tech twenty seven to six. Louisiana Tech finishes

1555
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 6: five and eight. How did they get in a bowl game,

1556
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 6: you asked. It was originally due to be Army against Marshall.

1557
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 6: They opted out of the bowl game because their head

1558
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,719
Speaker 6: coach went to another job and they had so many

1559
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 6: people in the transfer portal. They were out of coach,

1560
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 6: out of quarterbacks, and out of a lot of their roster.

1561
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 6: So with academic progress right, they picked the team that

1562
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,520
Speaker 6: could do the quick turnaround to Shreveport.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Saga Fox sports radio or

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Speaker 2: towards Jason Martin will come back some NFL A lot

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Speaker 2: to get to. That's next. Welcome in everybody, Hour three

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Speaker 2: Eastern time. Bernie Freddo of The Bernie Frado Show follows us.

1573
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to hear what Bernie has to say

1574
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 2: about a wild day across the world of sports. Of course,

1575
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 2: not only college football bowl games, not only some college

1576
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: basketball regular season, but three NFL games. Let's go ahead

1577
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 2: and dive into each of them quickly, Jason, I guess

1578
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 2: probably the place to start is that middle game, Bengals

1579
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 2: versus Broncos, Your Denver Broncos. You know this organization as

1580
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 2: well as anybody Denver. If they win, they clinch a

1581
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 2: playoff spot. Instead, Bo Nicks throws a touchdown to force

1582
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 2: the game into overtime with just eight seconds left to

1583
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 2: tie up the game, miss field goal for the Bengals.

1584
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 2: You think maybe they're cooked. No, no, no, no no.

1585
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow gets the ball back deep past to T. Higgins,

1586
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 2: sets up a short touchdown pass to T. Higgins to

1587
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 2: win the game. Take away from you, j Mart Is

1588
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 2: it more about Cincinnati surviving? Is it more about Denver

1589
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 2: blowing a chance to clinch a playoff spot? What say you?

1590
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all of those things. But I think

1591
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: Cincinnati surviving and still being alive considering how badly their

1592
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 1: season started and how it was easy to leave them

1593
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 1: for deceased basically, and somehow they've won four in a

1594
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 1: row and Joe Burrow has firmly placed himself into the

1595
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 1: MVP conversation. He won't win it because I think it

1596
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: is Josh Allen's award this year. But at the same time,

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01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 1: Burrow is making a strong case for himself and he's

1598
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: proving what we've all known about him for a long time,

1599
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: which is he's always gonna give you a chance. The

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01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks in this league, even when they come up short,

1601
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: you just always feel like you have a chance because

1602
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 1: you have that guy. Under center, and he is one

1603
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: of those guys, and in a game where his defense

1604
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: wasn't particularly good, they weren't all that successful on the ground.

1605
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 1: I was unimpressed with what I was seeing from Zach

1606
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: Taylor on the sidelines. Joe Burrow still goes for almost

1607
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,679
Speaker 1: four hundred yards and he does everything under the sun

1608
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: to make it possible for them to win that game.

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01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 1: And he's done that throughout his career. So I think

1610
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 1: that's probably the first takeaway. I mean, Denver can still

1611
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 1: get in by winning next week, so it's not the end.

1612
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: It was a great opportunity that they squandered, and you

1613
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 1: can argue whether or not Sean Payton should have gone

1614
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 1: for two. He said, we knew we were in with

1615
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: a tie, and since that was you know, that was

1616
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: an option there that made that decision a little bit

1617
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: more difficult. We would have gone for two most likely,

1618
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: basically what he's saying, if we couldn't have gotten in

1619
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: with a tie. I don't love that just because, yeah,

1620
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: but you don't automatically get the tie. You still have

1621
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 1: to find a way to hold that for ten more

1622
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 1: minutes at least going into overtime. I kind of just

1623
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: like the momentum of the Awe offense at that point,

1624
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 1: just giving them a shot against Stanton Rumo's defense winner

1625
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: take all right there, but that's not what they did.

1626
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 1: So I think the biggest storyline really though, is just

1627
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:13,719
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, and T Higgins. Those three guys

1628
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 1: are a three headed monster that win healthy and when

1629
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 1: they're doing their thing, no one does want to see

1630
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: them in the playoffs because they're going to give them

1631
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: a chance. They're going to score points if they find

1632
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 1: a way in, even if the defense will be the

1633
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: thing that holds them back.

1634
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 2: So I agree with you on all accounts, most specifically,

1635
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:36,759
Speaker 2: I think the Joe Burrow MVP discourse kind of popped

1636
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 2: up over the course of the evening. I don't want

1637
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 2: to dismiss what he has done this season. I threwout

1638
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 2: this stat earlier. He's the only player in NFL history

1639
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 2: with eight straight games of hundred and fifty receive two

1640
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty passing yards and at least three passing touchdowns.

1641
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 2: But I just and I said, excuse me, I said

1642
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 2: it earlier as well. I think he's probably over come more.

1643
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 2: The defense isn't very good obviously, On top of that,

1644
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 2: it's not only the defense. The coaching I think has

1645
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 2: been kind of hit or miss, as you've said, as

1646
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: you said earlier, and so you look at everything that

1647
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 2: he's overcome. I do think that, in my opinion, he's

1648
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 2: worthy of being in the conversation. I just don't know

1649
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 2: that he should win it. I would give it to

1650
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,879
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. I'll say this too, and obviously Lamar Jackson

1651
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 2: is very much in that mix. I would give it

1652
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 2: to Saquon over Joe Burrow. And it's not a Joe

1653
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 2: Burrow sucks thing. It's just like I think Saquon has

1654
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,759
Speaker 2: had that big of an impact on the Philadelphia Eagles.

1655
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 2: Now we'll see. Obviously, the Philadelphia's got a couple of

1656
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 2: games left. Jalen Hurts a little bit banged up with

1657
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 2: the concussion, so we'll see. But I agree, big win

1658
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 2: for Cincinnati to keep the playoff pictures straight Denver next week.

1659
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 2: If they win, they are in Denver, of course, playing

1660
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs, which we assume will be resting

1661
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 2: most if not all, of their starters for most if

1662
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 2: not all, of the game. They have clinched the number

1663
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 2: one seed in the AFC thanks to their Christmas Day

1664
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 2: win over the Pittsburgh Steelers. So if Denver beats that team,

1665
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 2: they are in we will see about that. Cincinnati would

1666
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 2: need a Denver loss. They would need to beat Pittsburgh,

1667
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 2: and then they would need Miami and Indianapolis, which both

1668
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 2: still have two games left. They will play this coming

1669
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 2: They will play on this Sunday and then next Sunday

1670
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 2: as well. Cincinnati would need both Miami and Indy to

1671
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 2: lose at least one game. They would need Denver to

1672
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 2: lose to the Kansas City Chiefs, and they would need

1673
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 2: to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers next week to make the playoff.

1674
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 1: For the discourse, wait for the discourse coming from Cincinnati

1675
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 1: that's going to try to argue that Kansas City is

1676
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: not going to play their starters because they don't see

1677
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 1: the angles into playoffs. Watch that discourse come out this week.

1678
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: I'm mark my words, it's not gonna affect Kansas City.

1679
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: They're not just say okay, we'll show you. They're not

1680
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 1: gonna do that. There's no reason to risk put mahomes

1681
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 1: in there when you already have the one seed. He's

1682
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 1: not going for any records. He's not gonna win the

1683
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 1: MVP this year. There's absolutely nothing to be gained by

1684
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:13,759
Speaker 1: that whatsoever. But I promise you that will be talked

1685
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 1: about this week, that it'll be they'd much rather have

1686
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 1: Denver in there than Cincinnati, which even if true, and

1687
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: it would make sense that it would be based on

1688
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 1: the offense, it's it's gonna be there to try and

1689
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: egg the Chiefs to try hard, and I don't think

1690
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 1: it will work.

1691
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 2: That'll be a great Tuesday topic on all the shows.

1692
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 2: You know, once you get past the seed, you need

1693
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 2: something to talk about middle of the week. Oo, are

1694
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 2: the Chiefs secretly afraid of Cincinnati and Joe Burrow getting

1695
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 2: in a yah? I don't think so. By the way,

1696
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 2: we didn't even touch on it, Jason, but shout out

1697
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 2: to Joe Burrow, who, at various points throughout the season

1698
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 2: people have tried to convince us is actually overrated and

1699
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 2: you know, kind of stinks whatever. He was pretty darn

1700
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 2: good on Sunday, like he has been all of this season,

1701
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 2: really quickly. The other two results really quick. First of all,

1702
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:03,640
Speaker 2: Chargers beat the Patriots forty to seven. Chargers clinch a

1703
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 2: playoff Berth. We talked earlier in the show if you

1704
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 2: missed it, you could go back now with the podcast

1705
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 2: about Gerrod Mayo's future. I think j mart and I

1706
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 2: both believe that he's gonna get at least one more year.

1707
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 2: I'll just say this, I don't think to me, if

1708
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 2: you're gonna hand him the keys, you can't. You can't

1709
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 2: pull the plug after one year, because it's not like

1710
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 2: it's not like they were thirteen and four last year

1711
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 2: and won the division. Like he wasn't left with very much.

1712
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 2: They drafted Jim Drake may The offense hasn't been pretty.

1713
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 2: I think some of it falls on his shoulders, but like,

1714
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 2: this isn't him inheriting an elite team and the wagon,

1715
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 2: you know, the wheels falling off the wagon. It was

1716
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 2: a flawed team, which we saw in the final few

1717
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 2: years the Bill Belichick era. So I think Gerard Mayo

1718
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 2: is safe really quickly. Any thoughts on that or also

1719
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 2: the Chargers in year one under Jim Harbaugh clinching a

1720
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 2: playoff Berth, I'm not surprised. You know, one, Harball coveted

1721
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 2: this job because he knew there was talent in the cupboard.

1722
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:06,640
Speaker 2: But then also Hardball wins everywhere he goes and wins immediately,

1723
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,839
Speaker 2: not surprised at all. The Chargers officially clinched a playoff

1724
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 2: spot on Saturday.

1725
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Speaker 1: This is all you need to say, and all of

1726
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 1: what you said is accurate. But you got the same

1727
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: quarterback this year that you have with Brandon Staley, and

1728
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 1: he has less talent around him. Offensively, they don't have

1729
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,640
Speaker 1: as many receivers, as deep a receiving core as they

1730
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: have had for him in the past. I mean, Lad

1731
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: McConkie obviously had a great rookie campaign. He and Herbert

1732
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 1: work exceptionally well together. But you just look at it.

1733
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: The little things that went wrong last year, the mistakes,

1734
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: the questionable decisions, the brass like over aggressive alpha moves,

1735
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 1: and all the weird things that were happening at the

1736
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 1: end of the game. They're just not happening anymore. And

1737
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 1: so now Justin Herbert is no longer playing with one

1738
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 1: hand cuffed behind his back. He's able to just go

1739
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: out there and be Justin Hrbert, and he is one

1740
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: of those guys again that is good enough to win

1741
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 1: you games. He is good enough to always give you

1742
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 1: a chance. And so they're making less of the mistakes

1743
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:15,520
Speaker 1: and they're putting their guys out there in positions to flourish.

1744
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 1: And that's the difference. That's the difference in a good

1745
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: head coach and a good coordinator. Brandon Staley good coordinator

1746
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 1: just was not made to be a head coach, at

1747
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: least not at this stage in his career. Maybe you'll

1748
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 1: get another opportunity sometime down the road and some of

1749
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 1: the lessons that he learned will prove beneficial to him.

1750
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 1: But you brought somebody in the room that understands how

1751
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: to win on every level, and he did what he

1752
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 1: does and to your point, he wins, and he wins quickly,

1753
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 1: and you get him a quarterback like that, and no

1754
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 1: one should be surprised that they are in the playoffs

1755
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: before the last week of the season, even with you know,

1756
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they just don't have that much skill talent.

1757
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 1: Imagine as they continue to build, if they really do

1758
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 1: commit on that, they could be incredibly dangerous going forward.

1759
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy because, like I said, you know, he

1760
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 2: took the job because of the talent on his roster.

1761
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,560
Speaker 2: But one, obviously they lost some guys in the offseason,

1762
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 2: some other guys are getting older. But I think more

1763
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 2: importantly it is kind of funny you watch them play.

1764
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 2: They play like you know, his early Michigan teams or something.

1765
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 2: I don't know what would be the exact analogy, where

1766
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 2: they kind of play to win every game thirteen to

1767
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,759
Speaker 2: ten and it's worked for him. Obviously, Saturday was the exception,

1768
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:34,879
Speaker 2: as they absolutely obliterate the New England Patriots. Los Angeles

1769
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,799
Speaker 2: Chargers have clinched a playoff spot. Speaking of Los Angeles,

1770
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 2: let's go to Sofi Stadium the Rams. They take care

1771
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 2: of the Arizona Cardinals. It wasn't pretty, but with under

1772
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 2: a minute to goo and interception as Arizona was driving

1773
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 2: and in the red zone. An interception seals the victory

1774
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 2: for the Los Angeles Rams. They have not technically clinched

1775
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 2: the NFC West based on some scheduling stuff, they could

1776
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 2: actually clinch on Saturday. On Sunday, excuse me, even though

1777
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 2: they obviously are not playing and Seattle, who is right

1778
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 2: behind them in the division, is not playing as well.

1779
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 2: Seattle and the Los Angeles Rams will play next week.

1780
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 2: A win obviously would clinch it, but even with a loss,

1781
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 2: there is no guarantee that they would not make the

1782
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 2: playoffs again. It would come down to schedule strength, record strength,

1783
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 2: things of that nature. But the Los Angeles Rams get

1784
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 2: the win. J Mart wasn't pretty. Disager brought it up.

1785
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 2: It was just a few weeks ago that the Chargers

1786
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 2: put up or the Rams, excuse me, put up forty

1787
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 2: plus points against the Bills. Offense has struggled. Since it

1788
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 2: does not matter as as they get the victory here.

1789
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 1: I mean they're nine and two since to buy. I

1790
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,640
Speaker 1: mean that tells you all of what you need to know.

1791
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 1: In their last eleven games, they've been just good enough

1792
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 1: in some games, they've been spectacular in others. I mean,

1793
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 1: they escape the Jets. They escaped the Niners. You talked

1794
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 1: about that Bills performance and everything happened there. The defense

1795
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 1: has take an advantage of offenses that are either struggling

1796
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 1: or not good, and that helps you. Certainly, Cardinals are struggling,

1797
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 1: Niners are beaten down, and the Jets are the Jets.

1798
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 1: So but at the same time, they've grown in confidence

1799
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 1: and they're doing what they have to do. And of

1800
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: the teams that are in that division, I think we

1801
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 1: had a different argument about this a few weeks ago,

1802
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 1: but the Rams are the team that would be most

1803
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 1: interesting to watch in the playoffs there ones that. Yeah,

1804
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 1: I mean I just think that I was. I was

1805
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 1: pretty high on Arizona for a while, but you take

1806
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 1: Connor out of that mix. Kyler is kind of just

1807
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 1: sort of He's kept his head above water, but just barely.

1808
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 1: And Marvin Harrison Junior, he still hasn't really fully he

1809
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 1: just hasn't really fully blossomed on the NFL level. I

1810
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 1: still think that that's likely to come, but I think

1811
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 1: it's been a little bit of a slower growth period

1812
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 1: for him than some expected for his rookie campaign. So

1813
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 1: of all the teams that are in the in that division,

1814
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 1: just something about Seattle kind of bores me. No offense

1815
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 1: to our friend out there that's a gigantick s Yawks fan,

1816
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 1: but the Cardinals are just kind of fading away.

1817
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:10,560
Speaker 2: I mean, to worry about that, you don't have to

1818
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 2: offend anybody. They just won on Thursday night six to three.

1819
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 1: So that game was that that game you talked about

1820
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 1: did we have too much football? Yes? Because that game

1821
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 1: happened as a standalone Yep. Yeah, like that that was

1822
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 1: a thing that people watched, like for for sixty minutes,

1823
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: people watched a six to three ball game that was

1824
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 1: worse than the score would indicate, just absolutely atrocious. But yeah,

1825
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 1: the Rams are the one team in that division because

1826
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 1: the offensive because of Sean McVay that I think would

1827
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: make for an interesting matchup for somebody in the postseason.

1828
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. Let's come back and let's

1829
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 2: discuss some of the things that happened, including Thursday night.

1830
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,639
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, what does this mean for his future? By

1831
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 2: the way, I think we got to talk a little

1832
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:58,839
Speaker 2: bit about Lamar Jackson as well. They the Baltimore Ravens

1833
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 2: won on Christmas Day. Yet apparently there are still haters

1834
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 2: out there that you and I might not be aware of.

1835
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 2: So we'll come back. We will continue the conversation on

1836
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 2: week seventeen in the NFL. That's all next. Fox Sports Radio,

1837
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio Ra Torres Jason Martin

1838
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com studio. Shout out

1839
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 2: to Mary. I refuse to let the Christmas spirit die

1840
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 2: because guess what, it's still December. Most people leave their

1841
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 2: trees up till freaking February. We want me to just

1842
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 2: do this whole hour Christmas music? Yeah, I mean, you

1843
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 2: don't even have to turn it off. Just leave it

1844
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 2: on the entire time. We'll talk right over it. No,

1845
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,679
Speaker 2: I'm kidding, you could turn it off. But I love

1846
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 2: the Christmas music, So thank you Mary, I appreciate that.

1847
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 2: By the way, did everybody have a good Christmas?

1848
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:47,679
Speaker 1: J Martin?

1849
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 2: I know you there's some family stuff going on, but

1850
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,560
Speaker 2: did you and your daughters have a good Christmas?

1851
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 1: Yeah? Me and my wife and my daughters had aid

1852
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 1: and had a really good Christmas. You know, she's three,

1853
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 1: my oldest, and so she really, you know, we got

1854
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 1: to do you know, she got to experience and understand

1855
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 1: Santa like it's not just like she actually was anticipating it.

1856
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 1: And she needed to go to bed because he almost

1857
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: missed the house because she was being a little bit

1858
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 1: late trying to get to sleep, but she got there.

1859
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,680
Speaker 1: She had asked for one thing, specifically a purple hippopotamus,

1860
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:24,639
Speaker 1: and the elves came through and so she was super

1861
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 1: excited about that and a lot of other things that

1862
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,640
Speaker 1: happened as well. And my youngest, who is you know,

1863
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:35,640
Speaker 1: eight months, she had a blast just being positioned for

1864
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 1: various photos by my wife who just draped her in

1865
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,719
Speaker 1: Christmas lights and started taking shots and then had those

1866
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 1: made into Christmas ornaments that we'll be getting back in

1867
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 1: a handful of days that we can give to family

1868
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 1: and things like that. So it was a great day

1869
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 1: obviously celebrating the Lord's birth and then just just being

1870
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 1: there with This is the first year where Claria Grace

1871
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 1: really kind of gets it a little bit more than

1872
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 1: she has before. So it's gonna get a lot more

1873
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 1: fun from here. But this was the first one where

1874
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 1: she recognized it this Christmas and it's the first time

1875
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 1: I have ever decorated outside the house.

1876
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 2: Oh how that got had.

1877
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 1: Lights and the bushes had multicolored lights on our giant

1878
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 1: holly tree had a light up fox and a light

1879
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 1: up brought to Saurus in the front front yard as well.

1880
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 1: I'm not calling myself Clark Griswold just yet, but I

1881
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 1: can see how you can get overboard because I got

1882
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 1: these things and it was just like this is enough.

1883
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 1: And then it was just you know what, you could

1884
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 1: just add a couple more strands every year and then

1885
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, ten fifteen years down the road you went

1886
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 1: in competitions. But yeah, it was fun. I actually enjoyed it,

1887
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 1: and it you know, they're on at the house right now.

1888
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 1: We're keeping them up until after New Year's fantastic.

1889
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 2: Really quick, Mary, you have a good holiday. I was here.

1890
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 2: I was here too. That didn't work with you, though, did.

1891
01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 1: I I was here?

1892
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 2: No, I think you came in after me because I

1893
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 2: was here from five. Oh yeah, I saw you in

1894
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:04,719
Speaker 2: the morning, so of course it was a great holiday.

1895
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:06,639
Speaker 2: You saw me. What are you talking about? Oh yeah,

1896
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:11,719
Speaker 2: I spent no I think he called me that day though.

1897
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:13,760
Speaker 1: Wow, not a great day.

1898
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, and then I came home and I slept the

1899
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 8: entire rest of the day, so it was pretty sure.

1900
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty due. Pat, Can you do anything special?

1901
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I was here in the morning. I

1902
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 8: actually did see you, and then after that I went home.

1903
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 8: We opened presents at home with the family. My best

1904
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:32,680
Speaker 8: friend came over, just had the puppy and just it

1905
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 8: was a good day overall. It was a good day

1906
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 8: of work at home.

1907
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 2: Fantastic. We'll get to the sega in just a minute.

1908
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 2: J Mart, you brought this up to me. I am.

1909
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:44,600
Speaker 2: I think it's a great topic. Okay, So we were

1910
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 2: talking about the NFL MVP. Last segment, Joe Burrow has

1911
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Speaker 2: his moment. I think it'll go to Josh Allen. Saquon

1912
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Speaker 2: Barkley has certainly had his moments, and Lamar Jackson, of course,

1913
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Speaker 2: is very much in the mix for a third NFL MVP.

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Speaker 2: The reason I bring it up is because it feels

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Speaker 2: like like the Lamar Jackson there's no other way to

1916
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Speaker 2: put it, the Lamar Jackson discourse. And I know I'm

1917
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Speaker 2: using that word a lot, but just feels like there's

1918
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Speaker 2: a lot of conversations that are all over the place

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Speaker 2: right now. And I'm a little confused by the Lamar

1920
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Speaker 2: Jackson conversation because I saw I haven't read full quotes,

1921
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Speaker 2: but Cam Newton on First Take the other day said

1922
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Speaker 2: that Lamar Jackson is underappreciated. I have heard dozens upon

1923
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Speaker 2: dozens of people in our industry still say, well, you know,

1924
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Speaker 2: Lamar with the haters, and you know, I don't know

1925
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Speaker 2: what else Lamar has to prove. At this point, I

1926
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 2: feel like Lamar Jackson, I'll be honest, Like, maybe I'm

1927
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 2: wrong here, I feel like Lamar Jackson is actually like

1928
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 2: pretty much the most fairly covered athlete we have in sports.

1929
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Speaker 2: Like I'm just gonna say it. I feel like pretty

1930
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Speaker 2: much everybody acknowledges that he is a one of one

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Speaker 2: generational talent the likes of which we have never seen.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe there are I don't believe there's anybody

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Speaker 2: with a functional brain. And I don't believe there's anybody

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Speaker 2: in our business that doesn't believe that he's one of

1935
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Speaker 2: the two or three most gifted players in the league,

1936
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Speaker 2: alongside Patrick Mahomes, alongside Josh Allen. And maybe that's it

1937
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Speaker 2: in terms of natural football ability. I do think it's

1938
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 2: also a fair criticism of until you topple pretty much Mahomes,

1939
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Speaker 2: until you topple Casey, until you get to that Super Bowl,

1940
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 2: like we can't you know, there are certain things that

1941
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 2: we have to say about you, the same that we

1942
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 2: do with Josh Allen and any great quarterback that hasn't

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Speaker 2: made it to that ultimate stage. And so I find

1944
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Speaker 2: it interesting that we're still trying to have this conversation

1945
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Speaker 2: with Lamar Jackson. I don't feel like there are people

1946
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Speaker 2: that are still like, oh, you know, Lamar not getting

1947
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Speaker 2: enough for I think he's getting a perfect amount of respect.

1948
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Speaker 2: And when he gets to a super Bowl, and he's

1949
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Speaker 2: going to because he's an amazing quarterback, we'll give him

1950
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Speaker 2: even more respect. So I'm rambling, but I just I

1951
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 2: find the whole discourse just interesting to say the least.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. See, the reason I brought it up is because

1953
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 1: it irked me because it's just like Cam and all

1954
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:13,760
Speaker 1: those that are echoing his sentiment about him being underappreciated.

1955
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Speaker 1: At what point or how much praise do we have

1956
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Speaker 1: to shower on Lamar Jackson before it's enough that we

1957
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 1: don't have to hear this anymore? Like dudes won multiple MVPs.

1958
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Speaker 1: As you mentioned, we acknowledge everything unbelievable about him. I

1959
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 1: would go further than you and say he's one of

1960
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Speaker 1: the most dynamic players in the history of the NFL.

1961
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Speaker 1: He's the most He's as must see as anybody in

1962
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 1: all of sports. There is almost nothing to really criticize. Now.

1963
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Speaker 1: If somebody wants to say he's not as accurate as

1964
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, yes he's not, so what a whole lot

1965
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Speaker 1: of other guys aren't either. It doesn't really matter. That's

1966
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Speaker 1: not that's not a critique that should be like, oh, well,

1967
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Speaker 1: now you're not appreciating him enough. No, he can throw

1968
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 1: the ball pretty well and that's fine. Like he as

1969
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, a lot of times he throws

1970
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 1: it better than pretty well. But how much do we

1971
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 1: have to give him when he's winning multiple awards. The

1972
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 1: only thing that anybody is saying is I need to

1973
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 1: see it in January. I need to see you take

1974
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 1: the regular season and apply it in the postseason and

1975
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 1: get to a super Bowl. And yes, just like Josh Allen,

1976
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:23,560
Speaker 1: exactly the same thing. But you never hear Josh Allen's underappreciated.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard that, Not one time have I ever

1978
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Speaker 1: heard that. The reason, here's the thing, the reason why

1979
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's gonna be the MVP this year is because

1980
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Speaker 1: every other candidate that we can name got more talent

1981
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Speaker 1: around them or got put in a better situation than

1982
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:46,680
Speaker 1: they were last year, except him, because he lost his

1983
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 1: number one target at wide receiver. It seemed like the

1984
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:54,559
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott thing was kind of on his last legs.

1985
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 1: You got Ty Dunn writing that XPOS during the offseason.

1986
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Speaker 1: This was a year where a lot of people looked

1987
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 1: at Buffalo and thought they were going to take a

1988
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:03,800
Speaker 1: step back. But then you look at Lamar. Lamar got

1989
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:08,759
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry this year. Sakwan Barkley got the Eagles instead

1990
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 1: of the Giants this year. The reason why Burrow might

1991
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 1: be second on the ballot is because he didn't get

1992
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 1: much better, but his defense got worse. He didn't get

1993
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Speaker 1: much better in terms of his situation. He actually his

1994
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:23,920
Speaker 1: situation wasn't as good. So I just look at the

1995
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Speaker 1: Lamar thing, and it's just, cam, what do we have

1996
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Speaker 1: to say about him that you don't call that you

1997
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Speaker 1: don't think he's underappreciated. I agree with you. I think

1998
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Speaker 1: he is appreciated exactly as he should be. He's an

1999
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Speaker 1: incredible player. He's an MVP, not just caliber. He is

2000
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Speaker 1: a two time MVP and a walking Hall of Famer.

2001
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Speaker 1: There is nothing that we are going to really say

2002
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 1: to dog out Lamar Jackson other than go win a

2003
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Speaker 1: super Bowl, which we're gonna say about Burrow, who has

2004
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:58,559
Speaker 1: made one at least Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, all these dudes.

2005
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Speaker 1: I mean, Peyton Manning had the same exact critique leveled

2006
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,559
Speaker 1: against him before he finally got to a super Bowl

2007
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:08,439
Speaker 1: and beat Rex Grossman in a rain storm. So I

2008
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 1: just get frustrated that we continue to hear this. It's

2009
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 1: just is this just because of how people talked about

2010
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson when he first came in the league. Because

2011
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:23,240
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody that says almost anything not laudatory

2012
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Speaker 1: towards Lamar Jackson in twenty twenty four. I don't I

2013
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:28,479
Speaker 1: don't know those shows. I don't know who it is

2014
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:30,679
Speaker 1: it's burying Lamar Jackson on a week to be week

2015
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Speaker 1: to week basis. If those people exist. If I were you,

2016
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Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't listen to him because I don't think

2017
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Speaker 1: their opinion has much validity, and it's certainly in the vast, vast,

2018
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Speaker 1: vast minority of sports totally agree.

2019
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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens, of course, last played

2020
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 2: on Christmas Day. Come back, j mart I got one

2021
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 2: other take out of the last couple of days. I

2022
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 2: want to I want to throw your way. I will

2023
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Speaker 2: do that next. Before we do, though, let's toss it

2024
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 2: over the new desk final time this evening for our

2025
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 2: show to saga what is trending.

2026
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Speaker 6: We've talked about how little the Rams have been scoring

2027
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:08,680
Speaker 6: most of the last month since that Buffalo game, but

2028
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 6: they keep winning. In fact, Associated Press says tonight the

2029
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 6: Rams are the first team in over a decade to

2030
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 6: win three straight games in the same season while scoring

2031
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 6: less than twenty points in every game. Since Tim Tebow's

2032
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:24,439
Speaker 6: Broncos in twenty eleven, the Rams have won five straight.

2033
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 6: They're up to ten and six thirteen to nine Tonight's

2034
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,679
Speaker 6: final over Arizona, as the Cardinals had an extra point

2035
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 6: kick blocked and also through interceptions on the last two drives.

2036
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 6: Pukinakua ten receptions one hundred and twenty nine yards. The

2037
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 6: Cardinals on red zone tds just one for four. They

2038
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:43,000
Speaker 6: had already been eliminated. Now seven and nine. Cincinnati in

2039
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 6: overtime beat Denver thirty to twenty four. T Higgins three

2040
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 6: touchdown receptions, including the game winner. Joe Burrow was sacked

2041
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 6: seven times but threw for over four hundred yards. Bengals

2042
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:55,679
Speaker 6: have won four straight. They're still mathematically alive. Denver failed

2043
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:58,640
Speaker 6: to clinch today. The Broncos had tied this game on

2044
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 6: a touchdown pass with eight seconds left in regulation. Cincinnati

2045
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 6: winst The Chargers did clinch a playoff berth winning at

2046
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,719
Speaker 6: New England forty to seven. Pats have lost six straight.

2047
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 6: They're three to thirteen. Drake May one touchdown, one fumble,

2048
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,680
Speaker 6: sacked four times, Justin Herbert three touchdown passes, two to

2049
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 6: lad Miconkie, who had eight more catches today ninety four yards,

2050
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 6: and running back JK. Dobbins, after a spring knee, had

2051
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 6: nineteen carries seventy six yards and a touchdown. Dolphins quarterback

2052
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 6: to A Tonga by Law with a hip injury, is

2053
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 6: doubtful for tomorrow at Cleveland, so Tyler Huntley could start.

2054
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 6: Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson is out Sunday with back and

2055
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 6: foot injuries. Joe Flacco will start. Hall of Fame finalists

2056
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 6: include Eli Manning. Of the fifteen announced today on the list,

2057
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:45,799
Speaker 6: nine were also finalists a year ago. To college football.

2058
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 6: Among the many bowl games, Iowa State beat Miami in

2059
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 6: Orlando forty two to forty one. BYU dominated Colorado at

2060
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 6: the Alamo Bowl thirty six to fourteen. Number twenty two

2061
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 6: ranked Army took the late game twenty seven to six

2062
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:01,639
Speaker 6: over Louisiana Tech at the Inn in Dependence Bowl victories

2063
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 6: for East Carolina and Miami, Ohio wins for Nebraska, TCU

2064
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 6: and Yukon. Washington State's new coach is from South Dakota State,

2065
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 6: Jimmy Rodgers injured Georgia quarterback Carson Beck declared for the

2066
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:17,720
Speaker 6: NFL Draft. Among the nine NBA games, Jalen Brunstt and

2067
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:20,920
Speaker 6: the next scored fifty five points with nine assists. The

2068
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:23,799
Speaker 6: next one their seventh straight in overtime win at Washington,

2069
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 6: won thirty six one thirty two. At Chicago. Josh Giddey

2070
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 6: a triple double in a win over Milwaukee. Victories for

2071
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 6: Atlanta and Oklahoma City, which is now twenty five, and

2072
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:36,839
Speaker 6: five wins for Denver and Golden State. Philadelphia edged Utah

2073
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 6: one fourteen one eleven. Joel mb did play, had thirty

2074
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 6: two points. Portland held off Dallas won twenty six one

2075
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 6: twenty two. Kyrie Irving forty six points.

2076
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 1: In the loss.

2077
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:49,640
Speaker 6: The Lakers took the late game over Sacramento, debut for

2078
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 6: King's interim coach Doug Christie, one thirty two to one

2079
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 6: twenty two. Kings have now lost six in a row.

2080
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 6: Lebron James was out for LA due to illness. Tonight.

2081
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 6: Austin Reeves had sixteen assist Anthony Davis did play. He

2082
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 6: had thirty six points, fifteen rebounds, eight assist. John Moran

2083
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:08,559
Speaker 6: to the Grizzlies will miss Sunday's game with a shoulder injury.

2084
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, to Sager to

2085
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 2: say you have a great evening. We will hear you

2086
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:16,120
Speaker 2: tomorrow with with the guys, Mark Willard already span your

2087
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 2: Chris Plank, etcetera, etcetera. From Slam Fox Sports Radio towards

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01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 2: Jay Smart broadcasting live from the tyrack dot com studios.

2089
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 2: Really quick, Jmart. One other topic I do want to

2090
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:30,600
Speaker 2: get to. So they are a Raider Sat Raiders Saints.

2091
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 1: Games actually happening today.

2092
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:37,120
Speaker 2: Wow, that's painful, a horrible match. Well, you know what.

2093
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:39,360
Speaker 2: I was gonna save this for the final segment, but

2094
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 2: since you bring up the Saints, I have a confession

2095
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 2: to make and it's gonna make me sound like a

2096
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 2: really bad Fox Sports radio host. I did not watch

2097
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:52,799
Speaker 2: a second of Saints Packers on Monday night. Uh, filled

2098
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 2: in for Covenie either, Yeah, I was gonna say, filled

2099
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:56,960
Speaker 2: in for Covino and Rich with VJ. Husky. We had

2100
01:47:56,960 --> 01:48:01,360
Speaker 2: a great time. And listen, this was what December twenty third,

2101
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 2: Festivus Christmas Eve Eve, and we're coming off. This was

2102
01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 2: at last Saturday for college football playoff games, a full

2103
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 2: slate of NFL Sunday. Knowing we have games on Christmas Day.

2104
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 2: We also got Thursday Night football, which we might not

2105
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 2: have a chance to get to. We'll have to save

2106
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 2: those fireworks for another show. This was the first time

2107
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:24,200
Speaker 2: in my life I felt like there was too much

2108
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 2: NFL football. And I'll say this, you and I and

2109
01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:30,799
Speaker 2: I'm not being sarcastic. We were literally the first person

2110
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 2: for the first sports media outlet that kind of realized, oh,

2111
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:37,839
Speaker 2: the NFL is like in the process of stealing Christmas

2112
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:41,599
Speaker 2: Day from the NBA. We talked about it three years

2113
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 2: ago in twenty twenty one before anybody else was. But

2114
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:46,639
Speaker 2: I bring it up because this year was the one

2115
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:51,559
Speaker 2: time since this whole Christmas Day thing started that Christmas

2116
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 2: Day did not fall on a traditional day where we

2117
01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 2: would have normal NFL football. Wasn't a Monday, it wasn't

2118
01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 2: a Sunday, it wasn't a Saturday, et cetera. I just

2119
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 2: felt like it was too much football. And we're in

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01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 2: this business. We love it, We're blessed to do what

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Speaker 2: we do. We're not complaining that we get paid to

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Speaker 2: talk about sports for a living, but it's like, at

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Speaker 2: a certain point, we do have to spend time with

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Speaker 2: our family around the holidays and you bring up the Saints,

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Speaker 2: and I just bring it up because we had last

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Speaker 2: week Saturday, NFL Football, Sunday NFL Football, Monday, NFL Football, Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: NFL Football, Thursday, NFL football, three games on Saturday of

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Speaker 2: this week, and of course a bunch on Sunday, one

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Speaker 2: game on Monday, which is a big one lines forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers. First time in my life, I was like,

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Speaker 2: Roger Candell, I love you, but you need to take

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Speaker 2: a day off here and there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like them having Christmas Day games is fine. It's

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Speaker 1: the other ones where it just there were a few

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Speaker 1: times where I didn't realize a game was being played

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Speaker 1: that day, and I've never really experienced that where NFL

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01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:54,640
Speaker 1: games were about to happen, and I would like just

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01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:56,719
Speaker 1: check a ticker to say, all right, what's happening today?

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Speaker 1: What there's an NFL game? Like again, and and then like,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna have Christmas Day games, maybe we don't

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01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 1: need the Thursday night game that week.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough? Yep?

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Speaker 1: You know, like we're gonna play two games on Wednesday

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna get lucky as well. The four teams

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Speaker 1: involved are all you know, playing proceeding or playing to

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs, all that good stuff. We probably don't

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Speaker 1: need the Thursday night matchup that week, just to add

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Speaker 1: that to Sunday, and you know, go ahead and cash

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Speaker 1: that one in. And then the years where Christmas falls

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Speaker 1: on a Thursday, that's fine. I just I actually forgot

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Speaker 1: about that Thursday night game until it was like into

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Speaker 1: the third quarter, because I just figured, Okay, well, we're

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Speaker 1: playing these other days. There's probably not gonna be a

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Speaker 1: Thursday night game. No, No, indeed there still was. I

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Speaker 1: think that's probably it. Like when you already have the

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01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 1: other day giving you action, I don't know that you

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01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:48,439
Speaker 1: need it. Now. I get it. Nobody's gonna turn down

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Speaker 1: having an NFL broadcast because you're gonna have ratings and

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01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna have I had revenue and all of those things.

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Speaker 1: But it definitely did feel like it's enough with the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Give me a couple of days here, let me miss

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Speaker 1: you for a minute. And because somehow this is what's

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01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:07,719
Speaker 1: batwing to me all the games that we've seen. Somehow

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01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:12,080
Speaker 1: there's still six games in the opening windows today, Like

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Speaker 1: there's still six matchups, and well, I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: want to call them matchups, some of them are not

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Speaker 1: particularly inviting, but you have six, and then you still

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Speaker 1: have two in the afternoon, and then you have Falcons

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Speaker 1: commanders at night, so you still managed to have nine games.

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Speaker 1: It feels like we've already seen twenty games this week.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I was going to say too, you know,

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01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,640
Speaker 2: obviously we work for Fox Sports Radio. I have no

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Speaker 2: privy or say to you know, meetings that our bosses

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Speaker 2: or Fox Sports's bosses have with the NFL. But if

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Speaker 2: you're a partner, and I know some of the games

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01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 2: were played on Saturday, but think about the teams that

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Speaker 2: have already played this week and will not play on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Kansas City, Baltimore, huge draws, Pittsburgh, national draw, Chicago with

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Speaker 2: the number one overall pick both LA team, Cincinnati with

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Speaker 2: of course Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: Houston technically with CJS Houston.

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Speaker 2: With CJ Stroud. New England is still a national brand

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Speaker 2: even though they stink. And it's like those are all

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Speaker 2: the teams that have already played and are not playing

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Speaker 2: Sunday and Monday. Now credit to the league because they

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Speaker 2: somehow still got some intriguing games between you know, Minnesota

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01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 2: and Green Bay. I don't think anybody expected it to

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01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:19,479
Speaker 2: be quite the stakes that we have. Obviously, Washington Atlanta,

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01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:22,479
Speaker 2: that's now two rookie quarterbacks. That's all of a sudden intriguing.

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01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 2: That's why it was flexed into the late window. And

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01:52:25,080 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 2: of course the the the NFC Championship rematch Detroit and

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01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:31,479
Speaker 2: San Francisco, so we can wrap on the topic. But

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Speaker 2: it is crazy, like the number of marquee teams that

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Speaker 2: have already played. I think the NFL caught a little

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01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 2: break because some of these matchups still look pretty good

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Speaker 2: on paper going into Sundays.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right now. I mean you still have some dogs,

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Speaker 1: but you usually do. I mean, Titans Jags is a

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Speaker 1: horrible game this year. I think one thing you got

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01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 1: unlucky on is Jets Bills. I think you thought was

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Speaker 1: gonna be bigger yep, and it turns out it's nothing

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01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:58,040
Speaker 1: at all. Cowboys Eagles you probably thought might have been

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01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 1: bigger as well, even though the Cowboys are on a

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01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:03,759
Speaker 1: bit of a hot streak as of late. Packers Vikings,

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01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, you get lucky there. Falcons Commanders becomes

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01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 1: an interesting matchup lines forty nine ers. I think you

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01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 1: kind of got unlucky there. Because you've got a six

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01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 1: and nine nine ers team that's going nowhere, and you've

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Speaker 1: got Dan Campbell answering questions as to what this game

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01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 1: means in terms like if seeding doesn't matter, are we

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01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:23,920
Speaker 1: gonna try and things like that, like that's not necessarily

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01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:26,439
Speaker 1: what you want if you're the NFL from Lions forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers, But you know that's why they play the games.

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Speaker 1: And super Bowl hangovers are reel.

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl hangovers are real. That is the Monday night game.

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Speaker 2: Still some intriguing games in the NFL on Sunday. Well,

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Speaker 2: come back, we'll actually look at some of those games

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Speaker 2: on Sunday. That's next. Ertoris Jason Martin taking you till

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Speaker 2: two am Eastern, Fox Sports Treo. Welcome back, everybody, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Aertorris Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck

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Speaker 2: dot Com Studios. We're taking you up till two a

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Speaker 2: m Eastern. Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show will

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Speaker 2: follow us, and you know, Bernie's got a lot to

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Speaker 2: say on a lot of different things. Of course, Bernie

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01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 2: will get you caught up on three NFL games from

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Speaker 2: Saturday Preview Week seventeen on Sunday the remaining games that

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Speaker 2: have not been played yet. I'm sure I'll have some

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01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:19,360
Speaker 2: stuff on the college football Playoff, etc. Should mention, by

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Speaker 2: the way, since I have not mentioned it. Shortly after

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Speaker 2: the show, our podcast will be going up. If you

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Speaker 2: missed any of today's show. Just search Fox Sports Radios

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Speaker 2: interview the podcast as well. Again, just search Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio wherever each podcast and you'll see this show posted

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01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 2: right after we get off air. One other scheduling note

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01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:44,680
Speaker 2: if you love college football, or even if you don't,

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01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:48,000
Speaker 2: if you are in front of your TV, or if

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01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 2: you're listening, or if you're in the car, if you're

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Speaker 2: working on Christmas Day, Jason Martin and I will be

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Speaker 2: on from ten PM till two am technically into January second,

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Speaker 2: and we will be recapping the four college football playoff games.

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01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:07,640
Speaker 2: We're filling in for Jason Smith and Mike Harmon. Cannot

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Speaker 2: wait for that shift.

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Speaker 1: Jmart all right, we got some of my closer games.

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Speaker 1: I will say that.

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Speaker 2: I think we'll get at least two because one thing

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Speaker 2: I'll say, you know, and we came on right after

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01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:25,520
Speaker 2: the four games last Saturday. I think we did a

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Speaker 2: good job of hitting on it. But I think the

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Speaker 2: biggest point that got lost in the shuffle with the

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01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 2: four blowouts. It's really hard to win on the road

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Speaker 2: in college football, by the way, especially when you have

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01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 2: elite teams playing inferior teams like this isn't the seventh

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Speaker 2: place team from the SEC hosting the fifth place team,

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Speaker 2: like these were teams that were good enough all year

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Speaker 2: to earn the first you know, they're one of the

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Speaker 2: top eight teams in the country to earn a spot

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01:55:57,880 --> 01:56:00,200
Speaker 2: and the home playoff game. It's like, yeah, I guess what.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times inferior teams go on the road

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01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 2: in college football and lose two superior teams, And so

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Speaker 2: I bring that up because I think that's a big

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Speaker 2: reason why we got four blowouts. And I do think

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Speaker 2: real quick, Jason Martin, I do think we'll get at

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Speaker 2: least some better games, maybe not all four, but I

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Speaker 2: think we'll get some better games on Tuesday and Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're probably right, and I definitely I mean,

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Speaker 1: we did mention that last week, but home field's a

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Speaker 1: big deal when those crowds were insane. I think the

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Speaker 1: game that was the closest is the one that had

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Speaker 1: the crowd that I didn't think was quite as insane

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Speaker 1: as the other three. I think that was the one

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Speaker 1: in Texas. I think the ones up north were all nuts,

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Speaker 1: and it was almost impossible for those road teams to

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Speaker 1: get their bearings, get their foundations, and probably their anxiety

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01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:50,240
Speaker 1: and their blood pressure was through the roof.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, let's Mary give us some music, put

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Speaker 2: us in the mood, and we will go through both

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Speaker 2: the college and NFL really quick. Since we're talking college,

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Speaker 2: let's just go through really quick. Boise State Penn State

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01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 2: is the opener on Tuesday night, and we'll just be quick.

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Speaker 2: But Texas and Arizona State is the opening game on Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: New Year's Day. Do you expect either of those to

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Speaker 2: be an upset or do you think Penn State in

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Speaker 2: Texas advance.

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Speaker 1: I think Penn State and Texas advance. I don't. It'd

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Speaker 1: be interesting. I want to see what Arizona State does.

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01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 1: I think Penn State's going to have a pretty good

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01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 1: plan for Boise That's a game they really should win,

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01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 1: and I expect them to win it and I actually

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01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 1: think they have a chance to win that win fairly boring,

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01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:40,040
Speaker 1: like actually semi blowout Central. I think that Texas Arizona

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01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 1: State is probably going to be close, just because I

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01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 1: don't think Texas's offense is going to put up fifty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think both those games maybe a little bit close.

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Speaker 2: But Penn State and Texas win Rose Bowl Oregon in

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01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:52,880
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Man, that.

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01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:57,040
Speaker 1: Is such a tough call. I think I had Ohio

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Speaker 1: State and Texas as my final before the season, with

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Speaker 1: Texas beating Ohio State. So actually, I'm gonna take the

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Speaker 1: buck Eyes to win that game.

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Speaker 2: Very good nightcap will be coming on ten to two

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Speaker 2: pm ten to two am Eastern Wednesday night. Notre Dame

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01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:13,520
Speaker 2: or Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Your guest is as good as mine. I just don't

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Speaker 1: know what the quarterback is gonna be able to do.

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Speaker 1: I know what Georgia, and I know what Kirby smarts.

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Speaker 1: Kirby some want to have his guys ready to play.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna come in there with a bit of an edge.

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Speaker 1: You would think Notre Dame's gonna come in thinking they

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01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:32,840
Speaker 1: can win that game. I'm still gonna take Georgia. I

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Speaker 1: just I have to believe in the team that I've

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01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:39,240
Speaker 1: seen do it before, even with a quarterback that's unproven.

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Speaker 2: I'll do something a little bit different. I'll say I'll

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01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 2: take Notre Dame to win that one. I'll take Oregon

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01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 2: in the Rose Ball. I'll take Texas and Penn State

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Speaker 2: wan to Love Talk NFL, Jmar, but we gotta go.

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Speaker 2: Want to thank the crew, Mary Mack on the board,

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01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 2: producer Pat In for Ian Steve Disaga, for my partner

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01:58:53,560 --> 01:58:56,280
Speaker 2: Jason Martin. I'm aren Taurus again, j Martin. I will

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Speaker 2: be on at ten pm Eastern Wednesday, recapping all four

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01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 2: or college football semi final or quarterfinals. I should say,

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01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 2: coming up next Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show.

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01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:10,000
Speaker 2: Bernie's got so much to discuss with you bunch of NFL,

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Speaker 2: bunch of college football. That's next. Fox Sports Radio