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Speaker 1: Time for our weekly conversation with Pride of the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: running back Fred Taylor, co host of the Pivot podcast

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Speaker 1: as well. You can tell by his hat and his shirt.

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Speaker 1: It's great to see you friend always.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, it's always good to see you two JP

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Speaker 2: man been running around the world. Man, still football, you know, football, football, football,

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Speaker 2: but everything else is life. So I just needed to

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Speaker 2: take a break, much like this team needed to take

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Speaker 2: a break. So hopefully it serves all of us well.

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Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, congrats on the semi finalist

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame again. Getting to that level

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Speaker 1: and we got to get you to that next level

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Speaker 1: again and then get you to the to the final level.

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Speaker 1: The final Boss still needs to be beaten at some point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Final Boss is still in play. You know,

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Speaker 2: I can't control the preliminaries. But once I get there, man,

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Speaker 2: it'll be all she wrote. So I'll be ready. Just know,

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Speaker 2: I'm ready. You know when that time come, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: it'll be. It'll be memorable for everyone involved. So thankful,

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Speaker 2: grateful to have made semi finalists again this year. Sit

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Speaker 2: back and kind of wait and see what happens on

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Speaker 2: the next step. Then you go, you know, you go

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Speaker 2: from there. So it's one step at a time.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for the party in Canton. Whenever it goes down.

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Speaker 1: I just want to be there because I know it's

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Speaker 1: going to be an all timer.

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Speaker 3: Fred.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that later, of course. That sure, let's

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Speaker 1: get to this Jaguars team coming off the bye week.

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Speaker 1: They're two and nine, they're not mathematically eliminated, so there's

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Speaker 1: some kind of shred of something. But the last time

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Speaker 1: we saw them play football, fread, it was the worst

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Speaker 1: loss in Jaguars history. So how do you regroup on

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Speaker 1: a bye week with all that going on?

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Speaker 2: You know, you hope that everyone still has a sense

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Speaker 2: of urgency. You hope that they're all being accountable and

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Speaker 2: have not thrown in the towel, you know, to a man,

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Speaker 2: to each other, as teammates and staff, et cetera. You

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Speaker 2: want to make sure that there's still a sense of urgency.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Guys have rehab, Guys are nursing injuries, Guys are trying

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Speaker 2: to get out there and play. They're playing for you know,

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Speaker 2: contracts or whatever it might be. You want to make

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Speaker 2: sure that everybody's still on the same page, because the

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Speaker 2: last time we saw them. It seemed that no one

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Speaker 2: even read the book. Nevertheless being on the same page.

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Speaker 2: So here's a chance to have a fresh reset. They

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Speaker 2: realized that they have six more in front of them,

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Speaker 2: with an opportunity to try and go eight.

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Speaker 3: To nine and see how the chips fall.

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Speaker 2: But it starts with you know, divisional opponent in Houston,

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Speaker 2: a team that they played well the first time out.

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Speaker 2: You know, as I think I recall it, had a

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Speaker 2: few overthrows that game, and even late they had an

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Speaker 2: opportunity late to sort of put it away. Didn't go

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Speaker 2: into the four minute offense, didn't do well. Texans got

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Speaker 2: the ball, went score, put the game away. But very

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Speaker 2: competitive matchup, still a very competitive group. So they have

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Speaker 2: to make sure they remember who they are. You know,

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Speaker 2: no one we can't remind them. They have to know

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Speaker 2: who they are.

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Speaker 1: Bret Taylor with us. Yet in that game, Anico Collins

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Speaker 1: went off with big numbers. They didn't have Joe Mixon

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Speaker 1: that day. They've got Joe Mixon now. And the Shaguars

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Speaker 1: defense has struggled in most areas. Let's be honest, they're

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Speaker 1: lasting total defense, they're near the bottom and every other metric.

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Speaker 1: But if they can't stop the run and it sets

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Speaker 1: up everything else. And they haven't been able to consistently

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Speaker 1: do that this year. So how do you slow down

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Speaker 1: Joe Mixon. I've asked you this with all these different

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Speaker 1: running backs this year. Yeah, and they haven't really been

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Speaker 1: able to do it lately.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, Joe, Joe is he's the beast. He's a

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Speaker 3: big boy man that twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people text me and say he is

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Speaker 2: spinning the image of you, Freddy T. And I heard

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Speaker 2: this from way back in the day. One of our

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Speaker 2: scouts in the building, Cub Triggers. Cub with Kubby would

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Speaker 2: tell me, like that kid in since he reminds me

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Speaker 2: of you. But now he's with the Texans and big, strong, fast,

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Speaker 2: can run, with power, shifty, he can do it all.

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Speaker 2: And he's gonna take some pressure off of CJ who

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Speaker 2: hasn't had the best season.

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Speaker 3: Or hasn't had the season as he had a year ago.

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Speaker 3: So they want to run. Give him the ball.

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Speaker 2: He's averaging four point to a whip even in the

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Speaker 2: time that he's been out. How do you stop him?

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Speaker 2: You have to just want to store him down. You

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Speaker 2: hit him early. It's doable. They don't have the greatest

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Speaker 2: offensive line, so it's doable. They have to just maintain

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Speaker 2: their defensive integrity gap space and as long as they're

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Speaker 2: doing that, and the hardest thing in football, in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: not playing quarterback. Tackling is the hardest thing in football.

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Speaker 2: They got to tackle. If they tackle play gap integrity,

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Speaker 2: they should be fine. And you mentioned they didn't have

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Speaker 2: Joe Mixon the first game. They don't have Stephan d

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Speaker 2: this game, right, So it's kind of like for me,

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Speaker 2: it's almost you know, pick your poison. It's a wash,

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Speaker 2: but you do have to stop to run first and

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Speaker 2: find a way to sort of put a little pressure

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Speaker 2: on Strout.

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Speaker 3: You can walk away with a win.

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Speaker 1: Bred Taylor with us on the other side, there's question

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Speaker 1: marks this week around the quarterback position. Trevor Lawrence practiced

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Speaker 1: on Monday. We'll see how the rest of the week

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Speaker 1: is gone. But you know, and then if he doesn't go,

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Speaker 1: then mac Jones is going. We've seen how that's gone

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. On offense, you know, Doug

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Speaker 1: Peterson talked this week. He didn't give a lot in

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Speaker 1: his Monday press conference about the changes they've made, but

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Speaker 1: he mentioned the words rhythm and tempo. So to me,

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Speaker 1: that's a red light. Okay, they might speed it up

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Speaker 1: a little bit on offense, What does that even mean?

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Speaker 1: How do you speed up an offense in week thirteen, twelve,

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Speaker 1: whatever week?

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Speaker 2: You you know, you come out there and you try

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Speaker 2: your best to.

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Speaker 3: Get some rhythm. I guess drive starters.

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Speaker 2: You know, you want to come out first down, You

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Speaker 2: want to be efficient short yards, quick, quick passes, just

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Speaker 2: not so much take shots.

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Speaker 3: But if I've always thought that's what.

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Speaker 2: They were attempting to do, you know, maybe they're going

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Speaker 2: to play without a huddle. You know, in that way

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Speaker 2: they can put a little pressure on the posing defense

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Speaker 2: just to hurry and get their play calls in. And

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Speaker 2: sometimes you can manipulate the defenses simply by not being

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Speaker 2: in a huddle, because a lot of times their go

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Speaker 2: to signal is their safe defense. Most teams safe defenses

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Speaker 2: some form of cover too, And if you can get

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Speaker 2: a wop and stay in that sort of mindset, then

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Speaker 2: you're playing at a faster tempo, at a better rhythm.

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Speaker 2: So hopefully he's speaking to that a little bit, But again,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what's at stake. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I know what's at stake, but I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 2: what's on the plate for them. But I'm interested to

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Speaker 2: see exactly what he meant.

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Speaker 1: All right, Fred, We've got six games to go and

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Speaker 1: they're not mathematically eliminated. So there is a chance if

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Speaker 1: they run the table and other teams above them do not,

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Speaker 1: that they're kind of in this thing. But they're not

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Speaker 1: in it right now, so that is that realistic? At

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Speaker 1: what point do you stop buying that in the locker room?

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Speaker 3: Well, you hopefully they don't stop buying it right exactly.

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Speaker 3: You know, they have to take it one game at

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Speaker 3: a time.

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Speaker 2: And you know, the guys that were on the team

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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago when they made that run,

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Speaker 2: they know what it feels like. And you know, here

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Speaker 2: it also the guys that were on a team of

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Speaker 2: year ago know what it feels like, you know, when

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Speaker 2: you're going the other way, which is what they're doing now.

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Speaker 2: So just just win one. That'll create a little spark

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Speaker 2: and hopefully that spark turns into a flame as they

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Speaker 2: continue to go throughout this season.

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Speaker 3: So you got to win one.

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Speaker 2: And it starts with a seven and five Houston Texans team,

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Speaker 2: and you know you just got to go out there

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Speaker 2: and put it together. Get after CJ. From a defensive standpoint,

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Speaker 2: stop Joe Mixing. As we mentioned offensively, just do something,

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Speaker 2: do something. I mean, I don't care what it is.

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Speaker 2: Do something protective football, but do something. Get the ball

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Speaker 2: to the number seven. He has to have some touches.

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Speaker 2: I can say that much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be a good strategy. I know you're

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Speaker 1: a tremendous athlete, a machine of sorts, even still so

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Speaker 1: long retired from the game, Fred, But this is a

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Speaker 1: great cheap week Thanksgiving. What is your go to Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: food and favorite? And how much will you eat?

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Speaker 3: You know what? I try to balance it out, JP.

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Speaker 2: You know, I requested this week just a cornish hen

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Speaker 2: where I like to. I've started frying the little cornish

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Speaker 2: hen that little things. It's pretty good. So I'm not

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Speaker 2: a huge, a big big Turkey guy. Turkey, the trip

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Speaker 2: to fan and all of that, it just makes me

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Speaker 2: tired and sleep and you know it messes up the

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Speaker 2: football games on Thanksgiving. So I prefer cornish hen all

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Speaker 2: to myself. A little stuffing, some cranberry dressing on the side.

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Speaker 2: What else, Mac and cheese. Gotta have my mac and cheese.

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Speaker 2: That's it for me. I mean, well, its color greens.

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Speaker 2: I gotta have some badgue somewhere. So that's it.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: That's The British trips must be wearing off on you.

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Speaker 1: With a Cornish hen.

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Speaker 2: Answer, I must say, I'm breaking the American tradition. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, where all these turkeys come from anyway, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, where we get all these turkeys from to

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Speaker 2: feed the whole entire country on Thanksgiving. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I'm crazy sometimes day people, I like that Cornish hand

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Speaker 2: your flavor. You do it right, you know, it can

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Speaker 2: come out pretty good. Sometimes we bake it, you know,

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Speaker 2: sometimes we fry it. So I'm looking forward to it. Well,

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Speaker 2: people have my protein.

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Speaker 1: You gotta have it. You gotta have it for gains

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Speaker 1: for sure. Fred A great week, Happy Thanksgiving to you

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Speaker 1: and the family.

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Speaker 3: Man. Sure, my brother, I'll see you