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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey there, everybody. It is Thursday, February twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we've been

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Speaker 1: named as Pro Bowl alternates on Marcus Grant alongside Michael

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Speaker 1: let Florio. Producer Justin is at the controls, and we

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Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit at the end of

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Speaker 1: Tuesday's show, but it is mostly a football free weekend.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know the Pro Bowl is happening, but

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Speaker 1: you know, nobody gets geeked out about the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: the way you know they do about championships center Like

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Speaker 1: I'm not getting invites to Pro Bowl parties is basically

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying here. I don't know. I don't know. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this. I mean you

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Speaker 1: probably don't, but you know, once upon a time, uh,

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Speaker 1: the NFL used to play like a consolation game, and

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Speaker 1: I think it was it was either just before just

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Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl. Um it went for like a decade,

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Speaker 1: like in the six steas where if you lost the

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Speaker 1: conference championship game, then you played like in a third

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Speaker 1: place game. UM yeah, right exactly, like like who wants

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Speaker 1: to do that? I think it went for like it

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Speaker 1: went for like ten years. But I do think like

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Speaker 1: some of the proceeds went to like a charity fund

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Speaker 1: or something like that. But after at the people realize that,

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Speaker 1: like nobody wants to what's to play in that game?

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Speaker 1: Even the players want to play in that. I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine they wanted to, right, like, hey, you know, here's

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Speaker 1: a reminder that you lost your chance to go win

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Speaker 1: a championship here playing this third place bowl or something

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Speaker 1: like that. So now they've made at the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: this week. Um, I'm old enough to remember when the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl was after the Super Bowl, and that was

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Speaker 1: I mean like that was the most anti climatic thing ever.

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Speaker 1: Well that would suit the super Who Cares Bowl at

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Speaker 1: that point, right, because it's like the Super Bowl's happened

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Speaker 1: and everybody's like all done, and then it's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's the Pro Bowl, Like no one, no one cared.

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Speaker 1: So it's at least this this this time around with

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Speaker 1: it before the Super Bowl, there's a little bit more excitement,

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Speaker 1: a little bit more interest. Uh. And then they have

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Speaker 1: the skills Challenge, which I admit when they first talked

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Speaker 1: about doing a skills challenge and like this seems kind

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Speaker 1: of silly, like who cares? And I watched them like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is actually kind of fun. Uh, So I would

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Speaker 1: admit to being wrong about that. I will say I'm

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Speaker 1: not a fan of All Star games regardless of sports,

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Speaker 1: but the skill challenge NBA, MLB and now NFL, I

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Speaker 1: will watch all of those. Yeah, no, those are great. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I do I think. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I said this on the show, if I said

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Speaker 1: this to you guys like before we tape the show,

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Speaker 1: But once upon a time, the MLB All Star Weekend

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Speaker 1: did have an actual skills challenge. I mean it was

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Speaker 1: more than just the home run Derby. I remember going

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Speaker 1: to one in Oakland, uh, and they had like you know,

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Speaker 1: like throwing accuracy and like you know, like hitting accuracy.

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Speaker 1: They put like big targets out in the outfield and

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Speaker 1: like I remember, Tony Gwinn just like sprang the ball

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Speaker 1: to all fields and they had like a base running

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Speaker 1: contest and that sort of thing. I'm like, eleven year

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Speaker 1: old me thought that was really super cool. And then

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Speaker 1: of course the home run derby was like awesome, um

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Speaker 1: because Mark McGuire was hitting jacks and stuff. But like,

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Speaker 1: I feel like baseball should bring that back like that

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Speaker 1: would be a cool thing to do, and MLB sort

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Speaker 1: of ditch that somewhere along the way, and the NBA

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Speaker 1: one is as as is great, like all the different

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Speaker 1: ones they have, and and now the I was like you,

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Speaker 1: I was like, dodgeball, I don't want to watch football

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Speaker 1: players played, and I was like, this is awesome, This

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Speaker 1: is actually kind of cool. So yeah, so that's something

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Speaker 1: to look out for. I guess this weekend there, um,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk some tight ends because we've been doing

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Speaker 1: our positional sort of look aheads, so we'll finish it

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Speaker 1: off with tight ends. Unless look, I will put it

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Speaker 1: to you, I mean, do you want to do kickers

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Speaker 1: in defense? Um? Do we do? We? Okay? Great? Especially

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Speaker 1: for the top scoring defense hasn't repeated as a top

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Speaker 1: you'd say that, because otherwise I was going to really

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Speaker 1: have to scramble to try to figure out how to

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Speaker 1: do rundowns for the next couple of shows. But we'll

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Speaker 1: talk some tight ends kind of look ahead at that position,

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Speaker 1: so we will, you know, to dig into that just

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Speaker 1: we are still a little ways away from free agency,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of names out there. I

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Speaker 1: know at quarterback it's not maybe the most exciting class,

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Speaker 1: five names at not random, but not five names of interest?

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Speaker 1: How about that? And and I ask you should they

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Speaker 1: stay or should they go? Right? Um? And if they

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Speaker 1: if you think they should leave, maybe if you have

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Speaker 1: a spot for them where they should possibly go. But

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Speaker 1: the one to start with the guy who was arguably

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Speaker 1: the biggest bust in fantasy this past year, Allan Robinson.

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Speaker 1: It fell apart for him in Chicago. I would be

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Speaker 1: shocked as anything if he comes back to Chicago next year.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, should he stay or should he go?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess you're gonna say go. And if so,

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Speaker 1: where he should definitely go. I mean it's a running

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Speaker 1: joke between us that he doesn't love Chicago. He clearly

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Speaker 1: wasn't happy this year with the Bears, and also the

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Speaker 1: like darn Old Mooney was getting more targets in him.

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Speaker 1: Towards the end of the year, Cole Comet was more

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Speaker 1: to give to say that. I think more of it

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Speaker 1: I don't I want to see him play with a

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Speaker 1: good quarterback, so for me, that is is criteria number one.

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Speaker 1: of what we just saw this past year. So one

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Speaker 1: put him there with Justin Herbert Keenan Allen, Austin Ekeler,

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Speaker 1: that would be a really really hard offense to stop.

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Speaker 1: Kansas City is their second receivers. Another one that comes

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Speaker 1: Chris Godwin, who potentially could be a free agent. We

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Speaker 1: But I'm kind of I'm thinking he should leave. Man,

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Speaker 1: lot of different things with Chris Godwin. Uh you know,

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Speaker 1: and uh what he's a He's a penn State guy,

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Speaker 1: for him. Uh there in in in Philadelphia. Um, Melvin Gordon,

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Speaker 1: Does he stick in Denver? Does he goes somewhere else?

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Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance that he resigns in Denver. Um.

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Speaker 1: It all depends though on on how much money he's

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Speaker 1: Javon say Williams. Selfishly, I am hoping he ends up

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Speaker 1: playing elsewhere because I think Javon C. Williams is an

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Speaker 1: Gordon is kind of hurting that if he was to

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Speaker 1: sign elsewhere. Uh, there was three teams that went was

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Speaker 1: just because they were desperately in need of on running back,

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Speaker 1: But the ones that I like more the Eagles because,

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Speaker 1: pieces there. But I think Miles Sanders is a good

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Speaker 1: you can wait until say the fifth round, and maybe

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Speaker 1: a guy like say, you know, even maybe wait a

430
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 1: little bit longer, right, say, a guy like Dallas Goddard

431
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 1: or T. J. Hawkinson are still hanging around there, so

432
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 1: you're not pressed to reach early and get one of

433
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 1: these guys, and you can still feel like you have

434
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,919
Speaker 1: a pretty good tight end. So, um, I guess if

435
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 1: you consider that to be deeper than yes, tight end

436
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 1: is going to be deeper. Uh in two? All right,

437
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: we will take a pause, come back and look ahead

438
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,679
Speaker 1: at tight ends and give you our dynasty rankings at

439
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,159
Speaker 1: the position as well. That's next on the NFL Fantasy

440
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Speaker 1: Football Show. As we always do about this part of

441
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 1: the show, play some hype train or smoke screen. I

442
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 1: got four names in some various scenarios for two and

443
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 1: we'll decide if it's real or a fake. So the

444
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 1: first one, you talked about a guy who might be

445
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 1: pressing Mark Andrews for that number one spots. I'm guessing

446
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 1: it's Kyle Pitts that you were talking about. So the

447
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,439
Speaker 1: hype trainer smoke screen question is Kyle pits will be

448
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: drafted as a top two tight end next year. I

449
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 1: think this is a hype train because it was Kyle

450
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: Pitts that I was referencing. And the thing I could

451
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 1: see with Pitts is like I could see it going

452
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,439
Speaker 1: in like you know, the early drafts, in like June

453
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 1: and July and even earlier than that. I don't think

454
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,919
Speaker 1: he will be a top two tight end, but I

455
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: think he'll just quickly keep climbing up the board. And

456
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: I think come August, when you know the hype is

457
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: there and and we're seeing videos of him doing insane

458
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: things at training camp, which we're gonna get undoubted I

459
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 1: think I think the hype will really push him up.

460
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 1: And in fact, i've actually I've yet to do an

461
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: early draft, but I've looked at a couple of the

462
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: boards and I've seen Kyle Pitts go in the third round,

463
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: which I was like, cool, I'm gonna have a lot

464
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: of Kyle Pitts. And then I saw him go in

465
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 1: the middle of the second round and one, and I

466
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: was like, why are we doing this already? Guy is

467
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: gonna be going in like the end of the first

468
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 1: round come August. I don't think he quite will go

469
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: in the first, but I definitely think he'll be a

470
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: top two tight end off the BA. I think I

471
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Speaker 1: I have the timeline reversed from you first off hype train.

472
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Speaker 1: I think he will be drafted as a top two

473
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 1: tight end, but I have the I have the timeline reverse.

474
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: I think what's gonna happen is all the early drafters

475
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: are going to like drive this thing up um and

476
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be when we get we get

477
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: to the more casual folks who show up in July

478
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 1: and August. And I'm not saying that to like dinnigrate.

479
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: Then it's just kind of how it is they're gonna

480
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: show up in July or August and they're gonna look

481
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: at Kyle Pitts're gonna be like, this dude, he didn't

482
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 1: score any touchdowns, he had a whole lot of bad weeks.

483
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna draft him in the second round. And

484
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 1: so I think I think what's gonna happen is that

485
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna sort of balance out when a lot of

486
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Speaker 1: the casual drafters kind of jumped back in later in

487
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: the summer and they're not as gung ho on Kyle

488
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 1: Pits as some of us who have been doing this

489
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Speaker 1: NonStop are. So I think he'll still be a top

490
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: two tight end. I just have my I have my

491
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: order of his his a DP timeline reversed from you

492
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Speaker 1: kind of like I kind of as you were explaining,

493
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, I could see that because

494
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna be like, oh, this

495
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: guy didn't score me any touchdowns, but like he was

496
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 1: awesome still, right, right, he was great. It's just you know,

497
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: it was just our expectations were a little bit high, Alright.

498
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: So if Kyle Pitts, we think it's gonna be drafted

499
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Speaker 1: as a top two tight end, hype Trainer smoke screen

500
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey won't finish as a top three tight end

501
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 1: in two I think that's a smoke screen. I think

502
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey has one more high end year in him,

503
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: and then I think, like, I don't think he's gonna

504
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: fall off a cliff, but I wouldn't be surprised if

505
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: he had a end of his career like remember when

506
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,719
Speaker 1: Jason Witten was in like his mid thirties and he

507
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: wasn't putting up like the video game numbers like he was,

508
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: but he was still like a top ten Fantasy tight end,

509
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: not not the year with the Raiders where he somehow

510
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: was top ten. Right, I could see Travis Kelsey having

511
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: an end of a career similar to that, where like

512
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: I think, next year it's not quite as good as

513
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Speaker 1: it was this year, but I could still see him

514
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: putting up like a thousand yards because of the offense

515
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: that he played isn't in the pieces he has around him,

516
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: And then I think it just slowly gradually declines. But

517
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: I think he's got one more high end, top three

518
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: year left in him. I'm gonna I'm gonna say, hype train,

519
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he falls off a cliff. But I think,

520
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, if he finishes four or five something like that,

521
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. Ill I will. I will go

522
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: out and say Mark Andrews as top three. I'll put

523
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: Kyle Pits in the top three. Um, just based on

524
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: what he did this past year and again not scoring

525
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: really any touchdowns. Uh. And then in that third one,

526
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: take your pick, George Kittle, Darren Waller, you can you know,

527
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: kind of take your pick of ever to those guys,

528
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: so that that automatically pushes Kelsey to uh four at

529
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: best in in my in my rankings. Um. Like I said,

530
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: it's not it's not terrible, it's not the end of

531
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: the world. It's just not you know, Travis Kelsey sitting

532
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 1: on top like we're used to saying, that's all. Uh.

533
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: And then maybe you can start talking about the downfall

534
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: after that. But I'm with you. I think he still

535
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: has at least one more good year in him, just

536
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,719
Speaker 1: not you know, top three tight end. Good Um. Zach Ertz,

537
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about playing really well in Arizona

538
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,239
Speaker 1: after he got traded. He is back now to be

539
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: an elite tight end. For our purposes, let's say elite.

540
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: Let's let's say top eight, top eight, fantasy tied end,

541
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: hype train or smoke screen. I I think that is

542
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: a hype train. I was gonna say originally smoke screen,

543
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: but if we're making it top eight, I definitely think

544
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: he could finish in that. For me, I think that

545
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: you just named all the guys that I think are

546
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: the tier one of tight ends, the Andrews, Pitts, Waller Kittle,

547
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: and Kelsey. I think Earth's goes in that second tier

548
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: with like Hockinson and Goddard as they're they're not they

549
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: don't bring the ceiling of the top five guys, but

550
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: they are very reliable. You could start them each week.

551
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: You don't have to sweat out the tight end position

552
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: if you have one of those guys. So for me,

553
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: I think that is the tier that he should live.

554
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: So if we're saying top eight, I think that's hype train, Okay,

555
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: I definitely get type train there. If if I say

556
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: top five, what would you say then I think smokes

557
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: smokes right, Okay, Um, I think that's fair. I think

558
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: that I think that's reasonable to think that that he

559
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: could not get in the top five and somehow being

560
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: the top eight. Hopefully it is still in Arizona because

561
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: I think that is his best chance to to be

562
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: successful again this year. And it was nice. Um, it

563
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: was nice to see him be productive. It was nice

564
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: to kind of be able to see Dallas Goddard and

565
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: Zach Er It's both be productive. They needed to be

566
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: on separate teams to kind of, you know, really blossom,

567
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: and so it sort of worked out. It's kind of

568
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: what I wish would have happened with Hunter Henry and

569
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: John new Smith, but instead they both went to New

570
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: England and Johnny Smith was not good. I don't know

571
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: that Hunter Henry was great. He scored a lot of

572
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: touchdowns which helped, but I don't know that he was

573
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: really good. Do you remember the hype when John new

574
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: Smith and he was like the first big name played,

575
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: like the first yeah maybe to sign and all the

576
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: hype on Twitter and then it just it never happened. Yeah.

577
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: I feel like I might have. I might have thrown

578
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: some coal in that trains engine because I was I

579
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: was a big John new Smith stand and uh, I

580
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: was sort of torn on what do I do now?

581
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: I like both him and Hunter Henry. I don't know

582
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 1: who to pick uh, And it turned out that the

583
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: was one obviously right answer when the year was done. Um.

584
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: Pat friar Muth was kind of an interesting uh conversation

585
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: piece this past year. He had some moments when he

586
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 1: was really good. He had some moments when he kind

587
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: of looked like a rookie tight end. That's no shame. Um,

588
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: No Ben Roethlisberger at Pittsburgh next year. Hype Trainer, smoke screen,

589
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: Pat Friarmouth will be a top ten Fantasy tight end.

590
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: This Out of all the questions, this was the one

591
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: that I struggled with the most, and I was going

592
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: back and forth on I think I landed though on

593
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: hype train because one, he's just a very young he's

594
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: a good athlete, uh, and I was very encouraged by

595
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: what he did as a rookie. But even more than that,

596
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: he is the Steelers best end zone red zone weapon. Uh.

597
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: And that was evident this year, like in the second

598
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: half of the year when they were getting you know,

599
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: in the red zone, like he was a huge part

600
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: of their offense. So I think he has a chance

601
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: of scoring like eight to ten touchdowns and I think

602
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: if so, regardless of what he does. Else was like

603
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: that probably is enough to make him a top ten

604
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: tight end. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go hype train

605
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 1: on it too, just because I think, you know, uh,

606
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: I think the Stevens are going to lean on him more.

607
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see what their offense is going to

608
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: look like next year. We know Deonte Johnson is going

609
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: to be there with Claypool. Uh, you still gotta get

610
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: Nagy Harris involved. But the fact that they can use

611
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 1: Friar move down near the end zone, I think it's

612
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: going to be, Uh, it's gonna be what sort of

613
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: puts him over the top. Um. So I think when

614
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: you when I say top ten, it might be ten um.

615
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: But I think I think he can sort of slide

616
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: in there next year. With that, We're still we're still

617
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: not believing this Steelers are gonna go into the season

618
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: with Mason Rudolph. Right, they can't, especially with all the

619
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks on the move and available that like go out

620
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: and getting Mitch to Bisky. If you can't name starters,

621
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: like get someone that is better than Mason Rudolph, yeah,

622
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: I would. I would think They're not going to do that.

623
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: They just can't, man, I really I rethink my friar

624
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: mouth stands. If it's Mason it off at quarterback, That's

625
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. I'd rather Dwayne Haskins, like give me that,

626
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: at least give him a shot. Let's see what he's

627
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: got and figure it out from there. Josh Rosen over

628
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: do something like that. You know, I have to get

629
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: off my joke, Like I really believed in Josh Rosen,

630
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: which will teach me as a usc alum to like,

631
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, support a bruin. But I can't anymore. I

632
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: just can't think of conscience. You know. I just realized

633
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: you don't give m j D enough enough heat for

634
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: that one because he takes so many shots and like

635
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen is the ultimate, like this was your guy. Well,

636
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: the difference is like the guys that m j D

637
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: is taking a shot at, actually we're good enough to

638
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,479
Speaker 1: make it on the field. Like so I can't take

639
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: a shot in John Rosen because he never gets on

640
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: the field. So but I really did believe. I really

641
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: believed that he would be these I think you'd be

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Speaker 1: a superstar. But I thought of the quarterbacks in that

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Speaker 1: draft class, he seemed the most pro ready. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: he has probably been the one that has done the

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Speaker 1: least of them, Like he would be like the mac

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Speaker 1: Jones of this last class. Kind of Yeah. I even

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Speaker 1: I was actually at that draft in Dallas, and I

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Speaker 1: a little piece because in his his post draft press

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Speaker 1: conference or whatever. Uh, he went all like Arias Stark

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00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: and he's like there were nine mistakes made ahead of me.

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Speaker 1: Was like he was like checking off names like Arias

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Speaker 1: Stark at night or whatever. I were a whole little

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Speaker 1: piece about that. And every time something happened with Josh Rosen,

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Speaker 1: I dig it out and I read it with a

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Speaker 1: tear in my eye. Anyway, I wanted Josh Rosen over

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I'm I'm so happy. You gotta be glad

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Speaker 1: to be wrong because that work. So happy to be wrong. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All right, So as we get to the end here,

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Speaker 1: as you always do, it's time for the dynasty check

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Speaker 1: your top five dynasty tight end rankings. Uh, Kyle Pitts

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00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: is number one, because there's never been an easier top

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Speaker 1: one dynasty tight end. I feel like Mark Andrews is

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Speaker 1: number two. George Kittle just because he's a little bit

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Speaker 1: younger than the other elite options. I have him at three.

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Speaker 1: I have Darren Waller at four, who I think, uh

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Speaker 1: Mike get overlooked a little bit next year. But for me,

667
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Speaker 1: this past year was a lost year for Darren Waller.

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00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: I don't think you could get any worse than it was.

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Speaker 1: I expect him clothe search to what he was in

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Speaker 1: nineteen and then Travis Kelsey. I still have him in

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Speaker 1: my top five despite getting up there in age. I

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00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: think he's got at least one more really high end

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Speaker 1: year in him and then a couple of like still

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Speaker 1: very startable years after that. Just because of the offense.

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Speaker 1: He's in all right, our top three of the same

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts for me is one Mark Andrews to George

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Speaker 1: Kittle is at three. I put Kelsey at four. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think this might be the last year that I

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Speaker 1: can reasonably put him in my top five, I think

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Speaker 1: in Dynasty, but I think you know they can they

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00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: can run it back at least one more time with

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Speaker 1: he and mahomes uh and uh Tyreek Hill. So I've

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Speaker 1: got him at number four. I went t J. Hawkinson

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Speaker 1: just ahead of there, and wall with him at number

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Speaker 1: five just because he's a little bit younger. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if what we saw out of Hunter

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00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: Renfro is a sign of things to come, but I

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Speaker 1: do know that in Detroit, Uh, it is for sure

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00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: like the Hawkinson and i'man Ross st. Brown show. And

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Speaker 1: even if Jared Goff is not the long term answer,

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Speaker 1: which I don't think he is, I still think t. J.

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00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: Hawkinson is a big part of what they do. So

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Speaker 1: he's at five. I have Darren Waller just very close

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Speaker 1: behind him at six for me, so um so yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's uh, that's our tight end. Look are you doing

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Speaker 1: the the since you're gonna do the super Bowl experience

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Speaker 1: this weekend? Huh yeah, I'm going Saturday afternoon. You I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure how like how long I'm gonna but I'm

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Speaker 1: just going to check it out. And I figured like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I've only got to do this once before when the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl was in New York, so might as well

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Speaker 1: go and and enjoy it. And and it's gonna be cool.

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Speaker 1: It's like a whole week fill of like Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and football activities and then and then sadly it's all over. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then it's all over. Then we you know, so

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Speaker 1: we got like a little more than a week until

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Speaker 1: the game. So next week we'll be back and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk more definitely about you know that game that's happening

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Speaker 1: at so Fi Stadium between the Bengals and the ram

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Speaker 1: So we'll dive into that the meantime, kind of do

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Speaker 1: it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Stay happy, happy, safe and healthy, get facts, wear a mask,

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Speaker 1: do good, live well, and we'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 1: And I want Cocoa, Coco