1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Actually my comparison for him last year when I thought 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: he was coming out was kind of like a little 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: undersized Chad Pennington, who was actually my comparison for him. 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: I just actually just thought about that as I'm on 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: a jetshell. 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: It's NFL Combine week and our draft coverage is kicking 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: into high gear with Yahoo's Nate Tights. We're talking the 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: Jets landscape in round one, some trade scenarios, and which 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: prospects are elevating your stocks. Now boarding begins in three 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: two one. Nate, Let's start right here at the top. 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 2: Let's do a mock draft. You have the Jets number 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 2: two overall selection. Who should the Green and White tank? 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: Oh man, I think they have to go defensively, and 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to overthink it. Just go RVL Reese 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: from Ohio State. We had, you know, mock drafts. We 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: kind of been rotating which defensive player we've been plopping 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: on the Jets and really how it leads to that way. 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: This is an interesting draft class where there's a lot 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: a lot of the best, or maybe not the positions 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: that you usually associate with maybe a top prospect or 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: they're the top prospects all have maybe a little bit 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: of a blemish that maybe wouldn't put him up in 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: the top five or a top ten in a typical draft. 24 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: But Reese is not one of those players. This is 25 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: just a very very good and very dynamic defensive player. Obviously, 26 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: the Jets traded away a few of their dynamic defensive 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: players very recently. It's not a one for one replacement 28 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: of Quinn Williams or Sauce Gardner. But it is a 29 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: guy that you can build around, and a creative defensive 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: coordinator can really unlock him. But I do think he 31 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: is scheme proof in the sense that he fits in 32 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: a lot. And also this is a compliment to what 33 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: the Jets do have. I think they have a very young, 34 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: talented offensive line. I think they have an interesting receiving 35 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: room with Wilson and Mitchell. That also, there's not like 36 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: a receiver at two that I would I could justify 37 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: taking for the Jets there. So I think this is 38 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: also it's kind of an Okham's razor pick, just the 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: simplest one the best player at a position of that 40 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: is going to be a need, and it's a dynamic 41 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: player worth building brown, So I would go with the 42 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: RBL Reese from Ohio State, just because of how dynamic 43 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: player he is. 44 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: What separates him from a Ruben Bain or a David 45 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: Bailey or a Caleb Downs, some of the top defensive 46 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: prospects in this draft class. 47 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: Downs, I'll start with him. His teammate's kind of a 48 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: back seven version of Reese. For he's he can line 49 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: up in a few spots and impact the game. He's 50 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: just a It's a safety, which is a particular player 51 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: in a maybe a better defensive situation or a different 52 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: defensive situation I like better. I still think defensive play 53 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: and really offensive player really and personnel and team building 54 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: to start with the trenches and Reese is an off 55 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: ball linebacker, but he could play on the edge, and 56 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: he can be used in multiple different ways, So Aaron 57 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: Glenn calling plays if they want to change up how 58 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: they use the scheme. He can live in man coverage, 59 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: he can live as a blitzer. He can live as 60 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: an edge rusher if they want to go in those looks, 61 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: which a lot of teams do with their off ball linebacker. 62 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: Compared to a guy like Bain, Bain has is, I 63 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: think a very good player just has a couple size things, 64 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: his arm length is could be a big discussion where 65 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a lot of good 66 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: where he's good against the run and good against the pass. 67 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: Where Reese I think has more excellent to his game 68 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: just a next half pick above, a little bit more 69 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: dynamic as a player. And then even guys like David 70 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: Bailey from Texas Tech. I think David Bailey, I appreciate 71 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: what he is as a pass rusher. He's going to 72 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: be deficient as a run defender in the NFL, and 73 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: I think the Jets, who already have Will McDonald on 74 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: their team already kind of have that type. I think 75 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: Bailey's a little bit better as a prospect, but that's 76 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: the same type of player what they call a DPR 77 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: designated pass rusher. While a guy like Reese is on 78 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: the field every single snap can impact the game ways 79 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: that don't affect the box score always. But the fact 80 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: that he can, no matter what the scheme is, no 81 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: matter what his task is as assignment, could be a 82 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: plus player. That's more exciting to me. 83 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: How much does position depth their strengths in this draft 84 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: class half to factor in the equation for GM Darren 85 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: Mugi when he turns in that draft card at number 86 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: two overall, if he indeed makes that selection there as 87 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: far as hey, I do have a pick fourteen selections later. 88 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: Oh, I absolutely does, because you I think even now 89 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: being on the media side, I've done so many mock drafts, 90 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: and I do so many mock drafts, but actually there 91 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: are a great learning assignment. It's a nice little homework 92 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: for me because then you start seeing when the runs 93 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: happen at positions, and I think, like the receiver run 94 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 1: will start happening in the teens. I think the corner 95 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: run will start happening maybe right as we get to 96 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: like pick eight, and then and then we might get 97 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: a little squeeze from eight to twenty on corners, and 98 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: then after that then it kind of goes away. Offensive 99 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: tackles I think are going to start going off the 100 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: board more more commonly, like the late teens into the 101 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: twenties might change, you know, as we see as the 102 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: combine's about to happen, guys might get boost up just 103 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: a little bit. But oh, those runs absolutely matter. The 104 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: depth of these positions absolutely matter. Obviously, quarterback is the 105 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: number one literally with Mendoza, but also there's none after that, 106 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: So that changes everybody's equation. But you look at other 107 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: position like receivers, there's a lot of depth at receiver. 108 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot of depth at edge different flavors too. 109 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot of depth that defensive tackle, more in 110 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: the weight first round again into the early second. So 111 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 1: that's where I think the Jets are in a position 112 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: where they could start a run if that makes sense, 113 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: at a position where they can kind of maybe get 114 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: that first or second selection at where the position they 115 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: deem they want to take in the teams. 116 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, your colleague at Yahoo, Charles McDonald, picked a receiver 117 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: for the Jets at number sixteen overall. Do you think 118 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 2: ultimately you could see that happening as well? And how 119 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: do you separate these top three guys? 120 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: Oh a receiver, yeah, oh man, that's oh man. I 121 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: would even go four. It's it's okay, well go well 122 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: for me, My number one is Carneal Tate. But I 123 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: have these guys squeeze really tight. There's not like a 124 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: big They're grade is the same more or less as 125 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: far as how I do greates. So I have Carnel 126 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: Tate as one. He has a lot of Reggie Wayne 127 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: to his game that I really like. He's long, he's 128 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: got great ball scales. Number two to me is Denzel 129 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: Boston from Washington, because that's a true X, and a 130 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: true X is a six to four guy can win isolated. 131 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: He was their punt returner. He's not going to be 132 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: an all crazy yat guy with the ball in his hands, 133 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: but he's a red zone weapon. And it's not just 134 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: oh he's six y four and he can do it. 135 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: It's like no on film there. He is coming down 136 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: with the ball, dunking on guys, good players too. I 137 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: just I don't know what his actual ceiling is, but 138 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: to me, it's like, this guy is at worst a 139 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: number a really good number two in your offense, and 140 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: maybe a sneaky number one. And then number three to 141 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: me is Jordan Tyson from Arizona State who has injured 142 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: probably every cl possible. But he's very twitchy. He has 143 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: some similarities to Garrett Wilson, maybe a little bit bigger 144 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 1: as far as play style, twitchiness, there's some similarities there. 145 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: And then four to me is Makaya Lemon from USC. 146 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: I have a little bit more qualms with him than 147 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: some other people I think do I won't really want 148 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: to see what combine measurements are because I think he's 149 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: a little undersized and I think he's a slot only 150 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: type player. And just like continuing conversation we just had 151 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 1: with Reese, it's about how many plays you can impact, 152 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: especially at receiver, and if I have to have if 153 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: you have limitations, to me, oh, we have to put 154 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: you in the slot. We can't line you up outside. 155 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: We have to put you in motion. That dings you 156 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: in my brain and how I evaluate guys. So that's 157 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 1: how I look at the top four. Casey Concepcion from Texas, 158 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: A and M would probably five. And I mean there's 159 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: a lot of receivers on Day two as well, but 160 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: those are the five to me that I could see 161 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: being as top thirty players. 162 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: I'll call it. As far as a draft is concerned, 163 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: how do you view a non premium position like running back? 164 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: And how should the Jets specifically look at a guy 165 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: like Jeremiah Love who's a threat to take the ball 166 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: to the house every time he touches it. And a 167 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: lot of people Nate as you know, are saying, hey, 168 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: this guy's a top prospect overall for me, Oh. 169 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a top five guy. To me too, it 170 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: is hard sometimes to talk out both sides your mouth 171 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: when you're talking to big board and where they go 172 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: in the mock. It's just that the floor is so 173 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: high for running backs now. As far as that's when 174 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: people say running backs don't matter, that is not true 175 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: at all. We're seeing how impactful running backs can be. 176 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: Running Backs just have to be able to have real value. 177 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: You have to be on the field for every down 178 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: you're talking about and packing downs, pass protection, receiving back. 179 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: But I always think it's fascinating with guys like safety 180 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: or running back, like how you value them. It's certain 181 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: teams it's just like, yeah, go for it. And then 182 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: like the Raiders last year taking Genty, I thought that 183 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: was a terrible pick. But if a couple picks later 184 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: someone took Genty, I would have not squinted at it 185 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: as much because it's just the team makeup and what 186 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: you're intending to do. So yeah, it's kind of I 187 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: would say, ee the beholder, it's situation of the beholder 188 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: a little bit for running backs. 189 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: They let's do a little wheels up, wheels down and 190 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: talk about some of these prospects where you think their 191 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: stock is headed. Sunny Styles from Ohio State, the impressive linebacker. 192 00:08:55,120 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh up, Wheels way up. Yeah, he's just awesome player. 193 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: This is a great linebacker class. I already talked about Reese, 194 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: who's kind of his own thing. But then Styles is 195 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: what you want a modern off ball linebacker to be. 196 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: And I think he'll if he does test, he'll test well. 197 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: His size will be good at the combine as well. 198 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: But his stock's going up. I think the league likes him. 199 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: I think Twitter analysts like him as well. I like him. 200 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: He is a top fifteen pick to me, and I 201 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: think that's going to happen too. So yeah, Wheels way up, 202 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: stock up, however you want to put it. Sunny Styles, 203 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: very good player. 204 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: How about a safety from Toledo, Emmanuel McNeil Warren, a 205 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: guy was a playmaker on the collegiate level. 206 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's up. His stock is up to me, I've 207 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: seen kind of both kind of like where his stock 208 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: range is, and I might be the middle guy on him. 209 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: I view him as maybe like just ballparking a prospect 210 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: like range twenty six to thirty five, kind of range 211 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: late first, early second, twenty to forty. We can call it. 212 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: That's how I view him. But his stock is up, 213 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: and I think he's going to test well if he tests. 214 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: And I don't know where Toledo keeps finding these guys, 215 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: but you know, Quinn and Mitchell stepped on like he 216 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: was playing from Alabama. He goes to Philly and it 217 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: was just like, wow, okay, great, But I think where 218 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: he has the size and the speed that someone's going 219 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: to fall in love with him. And I kind of 220 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: sometimes you read between the lines for how other national 221 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: people are talking about certain guys. It's kind of like, Okay, 222 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: this guy has some hype, so I asked to be 223 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: coming from somewhere, a team or something. So his stock 224 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: is up. Wheels are up for him. 225 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: You were down in Mobile, Alabama at the Senior Bowl. 226 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: What did you see from Garrett nuss Meyer? And is 227 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: he a guy who potentially is raising up draft boards 228 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 2: right now? 229 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: He is because nuts Meyer has been a known quantity 230 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: for a little bit. It was last year even he 231 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: was battling for me for quarterback one until he went 232 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: back to school with cam Ward. He's older, he's a 233 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: little undersized, and and he's been hurt. He could be 234 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: a little reckless. With the ball sometimes as far as 235 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: like how aggressive he is, but I still really like him, 236 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: so I just want to get the negatives out of 237 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: the way. He's a guy that I've joked with Dan 238 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: Brugler from The Athletic, who covers the draft, does an 239 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: amazing job when we talk about Nuss Bayer Is. He's 240 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: a guy we keep waving away redflex. Oh he's undersized, 241 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: that's fine, it's fine, it's fine. He got hurt, it's fine, 242 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. He didn't start till 243 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: his junior it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. He's older 244 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: for his year. It's fine, it's fine. It's just because 245 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: when you watch him, he was he was so banged 246 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: up this year. Their offensive line was bad this year 247 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: at LSU. The coach got fired, the receivers were not 248 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: what you think of LSU receivers, and he's just surviving 249 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: and playing. He gets banged up, which again brings up 250 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: his size limitations, but then he has a senior Bowl 251 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: that it's like, if you're optimistic about him, that's exactly 252 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: what you wanted to see. He's a coach's kid, he's tough, 253 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: he's a decent scrambler, like I would say, in above average, 254 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: above average athlete who can just get the simple yards 255 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: of simple first downs. But I actually my comparison for 256 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: him last year when I thought he was coming out 257 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: was kind of like a little undersized Chad Pennington. Wow, 258 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: was actually my comparison for him. I just actually just 259 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: thought about that as on a Jets show. So actually, yeah, 260 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: so kind of like a smaller version of that. Chad 261 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: was a little bigger than I think people realized, and 262 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: but just kind of placed out accurate, pushing the ball. 263 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: Knows what he is a little bit not an overwhelming athlete, 264 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: but okay, gets the ball out quick. Coaches, kid, there's 265 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: a lot of comparison. I have him what I call 266 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: a late second or early third round grade. He'll be around 267 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: that kind of player fifty range. But him and Tie 268 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: Simpson from Alabama, I kind of have grouped the same 269 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: and that kind of range right now. 270 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: Well, you just made him more intriguing for me. I 271 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: got to watch some more film on an us because Pennington, 272 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, coming. 273 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: Out one of my favorites ever. I love Chad Bennington. 274 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: How about Caleb Banks from Florida? He is a guy 275 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: did not play a lot of games last year with 276 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: injured and then he goes to mobile and he looks 277 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 2: unstoppable and he's got this athleticism for being such a 278 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 2: monstrous specimen. 279 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's I think he had thirty five inch arms, 280 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: which is nothing to sneeze at, huge hands. Banks is 281 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: one of these guys. He's hard to grade for me 282 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: because I see the flashes and I see when he's 283 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: dominant everything, but it's he's an older prospect that's been 284 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: banged up and it's just flashes. But the thing is, 285 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: it's very exciting. It's that's the stuff you want to see. 286 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: It's dominant reps. It's not just flashes of good, it's 287 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: flashes of true dominance. So again, you get into the 288 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: eye this draft, I'm telling you, because there's not a 289 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: lot of true what people call first round graded guys 290 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: eight to ten, you know, and hopefully a solid drafter 291 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: is about fourteen. A couple of years ago, there's about eighteen, 292 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: and the twenty four draft, give or take that. When 293 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: we get into what I call the green range, which 294 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: is usually picks twenty to forty, it's going to become 295 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: a lot of Again, eye of the beholder to the 296 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: flash and grading to projection and grading to what we see. 297 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: And I think that's what's gonna make it really interesting 298 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: in April. But Banks is one of these guys that 299 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: if you I understand, if you buy into him. And 300 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: I think the Senior Bowl did him such a good 301 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: service and showing showcasing how dominant he can actually be. 302 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: And he has traits and he has a little production 303 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: that you can point at as well. So I'm high 304 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: on him, but I don't know how high I can get. 305 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: But he's a guy I'm comfortably having the twenties range, 306 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: and I could see him go. He's one of these 307 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: guys that can go higher than I think people are 308 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: assuming right now. And I could see some of the 309 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: swell building up right there. But Banks is, Yeah, I 310 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: definitely stock up because it's just what he did and mobile. 311 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: So Banks is a monster. D'Angelo Pond's out of Indiana 312 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: more of a smaller guy, but he plays like a giant. 313 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: What do you think about him? 314 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: Love him? It's again, I am kind of a guy 315 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: that grades the size and trades even at quarterback. I 316 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: do because it's a physical game and it's a game 317 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: it's a combat sport, and combat sports use weight classes 318 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: for a reason. But the thing is why I'm saying 319 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: all that is Ponds is awesome and he's a guy 320 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: that I'm willing to break some of my thresholds for 321 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: because of his play style, how smart he is. But 322 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: he is so aggressive as a tackler, is a great 323 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: tackler as well, like doesn't miss it tackle for an 324 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: undersized guy. Again, when you can point at that as again, 325 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: sometimes guys need projection and okay, these plays happen. These stats, Okay, 326 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: stats are pointing some good things. But when you watch 327 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: a guy, how they have to win in the NFL, 328 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: like everybody has to win. Differently, Ponce has showcased that 329 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: he can kind of overcome his size because he's so smart. 330 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: He's got great ball skills, great awareness to kind of 331 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: trigger on stuff underneath. So the guy that I've kind 332 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: of compared him to is Kobe Durant. For the rams 333 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: from the last few years, they're both about five to nine. 334 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: I think Ponds will weigh in about high one seventies, 335 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: and that's that's what exactly what Durant weigh in. Durant 336 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: came from South Carolina, state, and it was a fourth rounder. 337 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: Ponds obviously when we played on the national champions and 338 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: say is a little bit more hype. So Pons win 339 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: the fourth round. Oh, I'm sorry, Durant win the fourth round. 340 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: Pond's I view as kind of a top fifty if 341 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: guy again early second round, second round. Somewhere there's some way, 342 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: shape or form where I have to You can't just 343 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: wave away like I just did it with not smarter 344 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: the size stuff, but his place down how smart he 345 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: is and he's gonna be a good athlete even if 346 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: he is undersized. There's enough to like that you can 347 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: again wave away from the size kind of concerns. 348 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: Nay, Let's build the perfect quarterback prospect from the twenty 349 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: twenty sixth class. It can't use the same guy twice. 350 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna do five traits, starting with. 351 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: Arm strength, oh Man, Drew Aller. If we're going Drew 352 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: Holler from Penn Staff, we're just going arm strength and 353 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: not where the arm is going or the throw is going, 354 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: but just sheer arm strength. Yeah, we'll go with Drew Aller. 355 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: I love it. 356 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: What about accuracy? 357 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: Fanana Mendoza, maybe Garrett Neusmeyer, but I would say, for 358 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: Nando Mendoza because his ball placement's just exquisite and his 359 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: sense of timing with the ball placement and everything. So 360 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: I would say Mendoza. 361 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: About mobility slash rush ability. 362 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: Oh, Trailing Green from Arkansas, who was built like Randall Cunningham, 363 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: runs like Randall Cunningham. But he's not Randall Cunningham. But 364 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: he is a guy on day three, if you want 365 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: to throw a dart, I get it. There's not many guys. 366 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: There's six, five, two thirty. Can runs like a gazelle. 367 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: His throwing motion is a little wonky. He has moments 368 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: where he does look okay. But yeah, Taylor Green probably 369 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: just sheer athleticism. If I had to pick one guy. 370 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 2: Now, Fernando Mendoza might have been your top overall pick 371 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 2: on this one. 372 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: But what about pocket presence, Oh yeah, that would have 373 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: been Mendoza. I would actually even throw a Nutsmeyer in 374 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: there as well. Nutsmyer's pocket presence is pretty dang good. 375 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: You can tell he's a coach's kid in the sense 376 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: of like he unders stands timing and when to get 377 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: the ball out, when to hang in and then push 378 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: the ball. He kind of just has that nice feel 379 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: for it. And again he's a little older, so probably 380 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: that helps us too, just having those reps. But yeah, 381 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: if I had to have a pick one, it would 382 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: probably been Mendoza because his pocket presence is pretty dang 383 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: good as well. 384 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: Every quarterback has to have the it fact. Or how 385 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: about intangibles and leadership? 386 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: You know, Jalen Daniels from Kansas actually has like some 387 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: intangibles to him. That's kind of fun. It's just like 388 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: a gamer, a day three guy that I think is 389 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: intriguing as a day three guy again undersized, pretty good 390 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: athlete as well. I mean he's helping Kansas win a 391 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: lot of games, which really helps. They have good coaches, 392 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: but that helps as well. 393 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: There's your perfect quarterback prospect from the twenty twenty six class. Yeah, 394 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: I like it, Nate. Let's have some fun right now 395 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: and get into some scenarios. Trade up, trade down. The 396 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: Jets have a ton of capital. You'll looking at the 397 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 2: four picks in the top forty four this year. You 398 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 2: got the three first picks next year. We know that. 399 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: Would you if your Jets. 400 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: Management, if you're Darren Mougie, call the Raiders and inquire 401 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: about the number one overall selection. 402 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: You have to just do. That's your job as a 403 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: GM is just turn over every stone and do due 404 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: diligence and just see and just be like, hey, would 405 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: you guys be interested in just moving back? And like 406 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: are you gonna? It's the Raiders? You never know, you 407 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: never know they're what they're thinking. So I think, but 408 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: do I think the Raiders move off of it? They shouldn't. 409 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: They should absolutely not. They have a nice, solid, good answer. 410 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: I like Mendozo a lot and and like he I 411 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: know there's questions like what is ceiling is because he 412 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: doesn't look like the sexiest player like what we see 413 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: with Josh Allen or something like that, but man, he's 414 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: just a good prospect. 415 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: Nate. What would get you to move off the number 416 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: two overall? What if one of those teams behind you 417 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: said I need Reese, I gotta get Bane. Yeah, you know, 418 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: maybe it's David Bailey for another team? What would get 419 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: you to move off of two? 420 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: If your moviie, we're how far back? Am my moving? 421 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: Would be the first question. But the if you could 422 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: keep me inside the top twelve? You know, A, I mean, 423 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: this is this where you can get interesting, because then 424 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: you can start doing stuff with next year's picks. You 425 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: can add to that that grouping, because not only just 426 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: quarterbacks next year, it's a deep class in other positions too. 427 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 1: There's some receivers or some edges. There's a corner from 428 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: Notre Dame that's really good. Like, there's a lot of 429 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: good players next year. So I'm kind of like, like 430 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: that's the one you want to like stockpile. So if 431 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if you want four first round picks, 432 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: but I think if say you move, I'll just make 433 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: up a team who's aggressive here in the top ten. 434 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: Say the Browns want to move up from two to six, 435 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: I think a pick. I think you try to get 436 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: more middle picks next year or even the draft after that, 437 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: where because I think you're kind of stocked up this 438 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: year where they have they got two first, they got 439 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: two to one, two, twelve, and then they go to 440 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: the fourth. So maybe if you want to move something 441 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: into the third so you can kind of fill out 442 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: that round, do something. But I would say you need 443 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: at least a two and then maybe a two to 444 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: the following year. So what I'm saying is a couple 445 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: of mid round picks, you're not as likely to try 446 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: and get that first round pick because you already have three. 447 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: There's only so many rookie spots you can have. Actually, 448 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: the Jets ahead of year like this, then they have 449 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: four first round picks on like two champazing draft. 450 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: That's rights, John Abraham Anthony, Yes, yes, okay, yes. 451 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: This is fun. 452 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: And I know you always got to find a dance 453 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: partner if you indeed want to go to the dance. 454 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: But the Jets are sitting there at sixteen overall, Nate, 455 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: you've spoken about there are not sixteen first round grades. 456 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 2: What would you consider as far as moving back up 457 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: from sixteen? Drafting it too? And then you're watching the 458 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: draft unfold five, six, seven, What kind of guy would 459 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: you if you're the Jets get back up high into 460 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: the top ten in order to make another selection. 461 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: I mean one of these I think they should really 462 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: focus on defense, and that's that's what's kind of fun 463 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: for I do think I do really mean this, not 464 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: to like wave away the question, but it's like they 465 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: are sitting in a nice spot where that run might happen. 466 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 1: That's some of the spots that they might select. Corner 467 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking of. I would say the highest 468 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: I would move back up is maybe to twelve or eleven, 469 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: one of those two spots where because I think that's 470 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: the breaking point. That's when we're going to get to 471 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: the next crop of guys or grades, I should say, 472 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: And then that's when you can maybe get the pick 473 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: of the letter save Ruben Baines is there at twelve. Yeah, 474 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: well eleven, you move up, you know. Again, I don't 475 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: think you will because of who's picking before that, But 476 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: like that one makes sense. So it's like it really 477 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: becomes depending on what of these guys. I don't think 478 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: they should go for a Jeremiah Love or a Caleb Downs. 479 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: I think they're settled that offensive line, and I think 480 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: the receiver wise, the receiver run is going to start 481 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: where they're picking if they're really excited about a guy 482 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: like Keldric Falk, who I actually I'm more bullsh on 483 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: than most other people. But again, fulk might just fall 484 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: to them, like they really are sitting in this good 485 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: spot at sixteen, And I really mean that, Like I 486 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: think sitting picking between twelve and twenty is actually more 487 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: ideal to me than picking between like three and eight, 488 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: because it's it's kind of a game theory kind of thing, 489 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: like while other teams make the mistake on these guys 490 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: with blemishes, and now we can really get the guy 491 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: that we like and prefer from this crop. 492 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: It's time for our final boarding call. Give me a 493 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: Day three prospect that stands out to you above the 494 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: rest that you think is going to have an excellent 495 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 2: NFL career. 496 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: Oh man, tight end. Man, there's some tight ends that 497 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: I really like. I don't know where their range is. 498 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: Justin Jolli from North Carolina State is one that I 499 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: really like. Jack Andres from Texas is another one. These 500 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: are like third fourth round types, fourth round types that 501 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: might just boom up Delp from Georgia because he can 502 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: play in line. These guys, those type of tight ends 503 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: can actually outplay their position or where they're drafted because 504 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: of how much again impacted impactful snaps as a blocker, 505 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: as a valid receiver. 506 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: All right, Nate, we're gonna give you the virtual whiteboard 507 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: right now. This is your red star time you are 508 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: a scout. You're going in the draft room right now 509 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: and saying this is the prospect that the Jets have 510 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: to have, whether it's realistic or not, this is the 511 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: best prospect in this draft for this team at this time. 512 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: I mean, rvel Reese is pretty hard to like pass 513 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: up man. That's when he's when you're you might get 514 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: the number one overall player at two. That's a pretty 515 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: good boon right there. And so he's one that I 516 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: have a huge star. And really for the Jets, I 517 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: look at corner and one of either manstre delayed from 518 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: LSU might not be a perfect scheme fit for for 519 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: Glenn because he likes to run so much man coverage. 520 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: I think he's better more of a zone guy. But 521 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 1: even the guy like Jermal McCoy for corn, that guy 522 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: I mentioned from Tennessee. Those are the guys to me 523 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: make a lot of sense for the Jets and where 524 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: they're picking in the spots that they're picking at. So 525 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: if I were saying I'm starring these guys, it would 526 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: be Reese and then I mean maybe Sunny Styles as well, 527 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: So it'd be if I did that, I'd be reset too. 528 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: And then with my second first round pick, if I 529 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: can just narrow to those three like Styles, McCoy and 530 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: and Delaye, one of those three is there at fourteen, Okay, 531 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: we're taking one if all three are there. Okay, now 532 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: we got decisions to make. But I think of those 533 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: those would be the four guys. If they can come 534 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: out with two of those, I think that's a really 535 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: good draft for the Jets. I think it's a perfect 536 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: BPA for team need for Also, whatever scheme you wait 537 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: play in that they are going to fit no matter 538 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: what you want to. 539 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: Run, Ny Tyson, I'll stand in analysis and we'll be 540 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: listening to you on Football three oh one. Your podcast 541 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 2: also will be following all your mock drafts up to 542 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: the draft on YA. 543 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: But no, thank you so much. I really appreciate it.