1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Can I am six forty you're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Cobelt podcast on the iHeart Radio app. Can I am 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: six forty you're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. Welcome, good that you're here. You already 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: missed an hour. Eight seven seven Moist eighty six is 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: the number for the Moistline and that's gonna air twice 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: tomorrow in the three o'clock hour, and we're on every 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: day from one until four, and then after four o'clock 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: it becomes a podcast, John Cobelt's Show on demand. So 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: every once in a while you hear a news story 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: that the Jeffrey Epstein files are going to be released, 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: and little bits come out. Usually it's stuff you've already 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: heard about. Well, today it was supposed to be the 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: biggest day, right the Attorney General Pam Bondi said they 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: were gonna dump everything they had and she said this 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: will make you sick. And then it didn't happen, or 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: maybe some of it was released. I don't know. The 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: story's actually changed every couple hours. So to sort this out, 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: maybe lour angel from Newsday is here. 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: No pressure. 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all on you now, so. 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, this has been a roller coaster of a day, Johnny, 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: exactly everything you just said. 24 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: We were supposed to get this big document dump. 25 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: We were told from Pam Bondi that she expected to 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: release all of this evidence and information at some point today. 27 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: We heard it was going to be mid afternoon, and 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: then mid afternoon Can went here on the East Coast 29 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: and we haven't seen anything yet, so it doesn't It 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: does look like some files could be released today, but 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: if they are released, they're going to be things that 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: have already been released before, So no bombshells. 33 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: We've been told from high level people that there's. 34 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 3: Not going to be any bombshells today, but possibly tomorrow, 35 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: because there's a letter that's now been made public that 36 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: was written this afternoon by the US Attorney General Pam 37 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: Bondi that was addressed to the FBI Director of Cash Betel, 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: expressing her frustration essentially over lack of communication with the 39 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,919 Speaker 3: FBI over these Epstein files. 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: She wanted clarification. 41 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: She wants the full and complete reports with no withholdings, 42 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: no limitations at all, to come out. So something happening. 43 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: You guys have probably seen this video of people coming 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: onto the West Wing with these white binders holding them up, 45 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: with these people like not everybody knows who these people are. 46 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 3: These are several conservative influencers who walked out of the 47 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: West Wing with these white binders that read the Epstein 48 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: files Phase one, holding them up, putting them on TikTok 49 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: and on X. But they never opened the binders. They 50 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: just said, boy, wait till you hear what's going to 51 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: be inside these binders. So now we wait. 52 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: So this is another like choreographed show that Trump is 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: putting on. 54 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 3: I mean, what we have is this lawyer, one of them, 55 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: Rogan o'handley. He wrote on X he came out and 56 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: said that he met with President Trump, VP jd Vance, 57 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: Pam Bondi, Cash Bettel in the Oval Office today. He 58 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: wrote on X that he was handed a binder of 59 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: the Epstein files, and then he wrote this is the 60 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: most transparent administration in American history. The best part, he wrote, 61 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 3: this is just the start saying that people are going. 62 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 2: To be going to jail. 63 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: So we saw a couple of tweets like that. We 64 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: of course have reached out multiple times to the Department 65 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: of Justice trying to get some clarification. What are we 66 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: talking about here are you guys, why are you giving 67 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: these people binders? 68 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: Are the rest of us going to see them? What's 69 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: in them? What is phase one? What is phase two? 70 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: And so on? 71 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: I mean, we're just waiting for these names to come 72 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: out because we've been We've been hearing names throughout the years, right, 73 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: I mean we know that Jeffrey Epstein's Little Black Book, 74 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: the list of names that he has are people. 75 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: That he has done business within the past, and. 76 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: They do include mentions of Donald Trump and former President 77 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew. Of course we heard about David 78 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: Copperfield last the magician David Copperfield last year, as well 79 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: as somebody who maybe had Michael Jackson on there as well. 80 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: But you know, everybody who has been named so far 81 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: has not been charged with anything. And those who have 82 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: been named, who we all know, they're very popular names. 83 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: Even Cameron Diaz somehow is in you know the either here. 84 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: Nobody's been charged with anything. And of course Jeffrey Epstein 85 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: knew a lot of famous people. He did a lot 86 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: of big business with his money. 87 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, when when Pam Bondi says, this will make you sick, 88 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: that there's over two hundred and fifty victims. Does that 89 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: mean the sheer number of victims or does it mean 90 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: the details of what was going on? Not that you'd 91 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: know this, but I was trying to figure out, like, 92 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: what is she alluding to here? Are they going to 93 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: really release some crazy details that everyone is going to 94 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: recoil in shock? 95 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: I mean what we've heard so far from some of 96 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 3: the doc uments that have been released. You know, we've 97 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: heard about the grotesque details about how these underage girls 98 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 3: were brought to Jeffrey Epstein and his partner Gislaine Maxwell, 99 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: and you know the thing about the massages and how 100 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: he ordered them to in state various states of undress. 101 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: And some of these girls were as young as fourteen 102 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: years old, and then they were asked to recruit their friends, 103 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,239 Speaker 3: go back to school and get us somebody younger. 104 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: Go you know, go back to. 105 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: School and bring us more of your girlfriends. So this 106 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: was allegedly happening in New York and West Palm Beach 107 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 3: in New Mexico, and of course the Private island. And 108 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: so we're not really sure we've heard about all about 109 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: these massages and sexual assaults. Is there more that we're 110 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: going to learn? You're right, we just don't know two 111 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty at least victims that Pam Bondi references, 112 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: and she said the reason why we haven't seen these 113 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: documents released yet under her care is because she wants 114 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: to protect the victims. So I'm imagining seeing a lot 115 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: of redacted pages or a lot of redactions meaning that 116 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: you know, the big sharpie is what it looks like 117 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: through these court documents where you don't see the victims' names, 118 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 3: where they're from, their addresses, stuff like that. So that 119 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 3: could be what's going on in part, but it sounds 120 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: like there is kind of a miscommunication or there needs 121 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: to be a better communication going on with the FBI 122 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: and the Department of Justice until we can get the 123 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: full scope of this investigation of these files as they 124 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: are released in whole. 125 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: All right, Lauren, very good, Thank you so much. All Right, John, 126 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: And maybe we'll talk with you again soon if they 127 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: actually release real stuff. 128 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: Hey, we're around, and we'll hopefully get these documents tonight 129 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: or tomorrow and we can come back on if you'd like. 130 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: All Right, very good, I'll talk to you later. Thank you, 131 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: all right, John. All right. Laura Engel from News Nation 132 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: and the Pambondi. It also told the FBI in effect, 133 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, release everything, because apparently there was stuff 134 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: still to this day that the FBI was holding back. 135 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: And it makes you wonder what's in those documents as well, 136 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: and that there's one public official, one congress person who's 137 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: putting together some kind of a bill to make sure 138 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: that none of this information is destroyed, although I think 139 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: it would have been destroyed by now right. And what 140 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: about all the audio tapes and the videotapes and the 141 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: photos that Epstein has been collected, has collected over the years. 142 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: Where do they all end up? Were they destroyed? I mean, 143 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: when you have government officials involved and powerful business leaders 144 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 1: and celebrities, you would think eventually anything that really would 145 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: matter would get you know, we'd get thrown into a fireplace. 146 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you have to burn this stuff. Well when 147 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: we come back. There is a series in Calmatters colmatters 148 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: dot org, which is a pretty good news website, and 149 00:07:54,760 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: they have done one of the most intense investigations as 150 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: to what's going on in the corrupt homeless industry that 151 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: I've seen in a while. And I've got stuff I'm 152 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: going to tell you about what they have discovered and 153 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: you're going to believe it because, like I said, the money, 154 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: the money has disappeared, So what's it being spent on. 155 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: We know all the programs are ineffective. Largely, I'll explain 156 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: to you why they're ineffective. You'll see what they're wasting 157 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: the money on when we come back. 158 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 159 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 4: six forty. 160 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: We are on every day from one until four o'clock. 161 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: I think, I think if you're a reasonable person, you 162 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: should conclude that what Trump and Musk have done in 163 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: the first five or six weeks of the administration is proved. 164 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: There is a colossal amount of money being wasted and 165 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: stolen and spent on stupid things. Because I think they 166 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: have made an absolutely convincing case. And all I think 167 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: of every day is we need to get a California doge. 168 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: We need to get the same kind of intensive, line 169 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: by line investigation into California Sacramento government on the state level, 170 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: and let's just go locally with Los Angeles since it's 171 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: the biggest, most corrupt cesspool and we would find out 172 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: things that would make our hair fall out. I'm certain 173 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: of it, And I think one of the biggest scams 174 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: going on a local level is the amount of homeless 175 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: money that is sent to quote nonprofits. That word itself 176 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: is a sign that there's illegal things going on. Of course, 177 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: you'd call yourself a nonprofit to make people say, oh, 178 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: look at that. They're not capitalistic, they're not greedy, they're nonprofits. Well, 179 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: a lot of these nonprofit executs, satives, directors are making 180 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: big six figure salaries, three four, five hundred thousand dollars, 181 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: staff members easily clearing one hundred thousand dollars a year 182 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: and have for quite a while. And much of the 183 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: money that SAPs donate to homeless nonprofits and that taxpayers 184 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: pay for because we have so much, so much tax 185 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: money sucked out of our paychecks, and it's rooted to 186 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: the nonprofits and they are run by the friends and 187 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: relatives and political donors of the corrupt politicians that we elect. 188 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: That's the truth. And you can work backwards and say, gee, 189 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: why do you think that is? How do you know 190 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: it's that way? What's your proof? Well, look at the outcomes. 191 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: The outcomes are horrendous. Homelessness has exploded ever since we 192 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: started pouring billions of dollars into the mess. Cowmatters. Cowmatters 193 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: dot org has done a study, and these articles are 194 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: really long, and I wish there was a magical way 195 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: I could get everybody to read these. They don't make 196 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: for necessarily compelling television. But if you stick with all 197 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: the reading, you'd come away saying, oh, my god, that 198 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: the whole homeless industry in the city and in the 199 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: state really is corrupt, really is broken. They are stealing money, 200 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: they really don't care, and they're killing people on top 201 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: of it. You really would come away with like, well, 202 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: you know what, I guess that's the reality. That's the 203 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: truth because human nature. I don't have a rosy view 204 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: of human nature. I have a dark view of human nature. 205 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: And I think if you have a lot of free 206 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: money slashing around, all the worst elements in our society 207 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: are going to get attracted to it. It really is 208 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: like bees to honey, and that they're going to run 209 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: off with the money, all the while emotionally manipulating you 210 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: into feeling emotional and convincing you the auto contribute your 211 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: tax money or contribute donations and you should feel sad 212 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: and starry about what's going on. And the more they 213 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: get you to feel that way, the more likely you 214 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: are to finance their corruption. Talmatters dot org says there's 215 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: about sixty one they focus in one article on all 216 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: the emergency shelter beds, sixty one thousand of them, and 217 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: they say, if somebody ends up in an emergency shelter bed, 218 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: they're going to get stuck in housing purgatory. Fewer than 219 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: one out of four move into permanent homes, which is 220 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: far below what many shelter operators promise in their contracts 221 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: with the public agencies. With US, right, we pay tax money, 222 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: these shelter nonprofits promise, hey, hey, you know, send the 223 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: bodies to us and we'll get them into housing. Real 224 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: housing doesn't happen. Over three quarters of the time, State 225 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: and local officials keep relying on shelters as the backbone 226 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: of their effort to get people off the streets. Now 227 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: everybody knows they don't work, but they keep financing these 228 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: programs anyway, and they keep raising the taxes. You know, 229 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: the tax here in La went up because a majority 230 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: in La County voted or La City voted for increased 231 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: homeless taxes. Dennis Cohane was described as an expert in 232 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: homelessness and housing policy, He says reliance on shelters is 233 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: the big failure in California. The big failure, he says, 234 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: the shelters are not a solution. Of course, his idea 235 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: is to spend even more money, give them more rent 236 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: money so they could live in real housing. This is 237 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: what I noticed whenever somebody from this crowd admits that 238 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: this is a complete failure, and you say, well, what 239 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: could we do about it? Oh, spend more money. Well, 240 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: we gave the state twenty four billion dollars over the 241 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: last six year years and it all got wasted. I 242 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: don't think even knew of another twenty four billion is 243 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: going to make a difference. No state agency listen to 244 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: this line. No state agency could provide it estimate for 245 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: how much total taxpayer money is spent on shelters. You 246 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: imagine that you could call up all the state agencies 247 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: in Sacramento, called Governor k Newsom himself. They can't tell 248 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: you how much? How much do we spend just on shelters? 249 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: It's one easy question, right, It's one line of shelters. 250 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: Presumably that's where all these people go first. When you 251 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: get them off the Street. How much money we spending 252 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: on the shelters, I don't know. Well, what does that matter? 253 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 4: Now? 254 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: The people running the shelters are making six figure salaries. 255 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: Looks like that. Local governments have invested a billion dollars 256 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen. The number of emergency shelter beds in 257 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: the state more then doubled, from twenty seven thousand to 258 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: sixty one thousand. But there are still three times as 259 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: many homeless people as there are shelter bits. So billions 260 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: of dollars and you have an overwhelming number of homeless people. 261 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: Nothing has worked. And get this, the shelters are deadlier 262 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: than the jails. The annual shelter deaths tripled over the 263 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: last six years. So these nonprofits have designed programs that 264 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: send people into shelters where they go to die. You're 265 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: more likely to die in a shelter that if you've 266 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: been sent to jail. This is how much they care. 267 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: This is how much compassion all these progressives have with 268 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: their nonprofits. You take a homeless person, you put him 269 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: in jail, he's more likely to survive than if you 270 00:15:54,560 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: put him in a shelter. Listen to what these nonprofits 271 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: are making. Oh by the way. You know, how many 272 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: people have died in the last six years in shelters 273 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven. This, this racket, this homeless nonprofit 274 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: racket financed by you, has killed over two thousand homeless people. Oh, 275 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: isn't it good that they're getting off the streets. What 276 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: wonderful compassionate work they do? They send two thousand people 277 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: to their deaths. Here's another section. Scandals have plagued fast 278 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: growing shelter operators. I'm sure you'll be surprised by this. 279 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: In Oakland, there's something called the Bay Area Community Services. 280 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: They saw their revenue climb a thousand percent in the 281 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: last decade, one thousand percent. Now they spend ninety eight 282 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: million dollars a year, and there's a long list of allegations, fraud, 283 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: inappropriate relationships with the clients. In other words, they're stealing 284 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: money and they're having sex with the homeless people. That's 285 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: what the ninety eight million dollars gets. Hey, if we 286 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: give you ninety eight million dollars, what will you do. 287 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: We'll steal it and we'll have we'll screw all the 288 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: homeless people. How's that? Oh? Good deal? Sure, here's another 289 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: ninety eight million we've got one here in LA. Special 290 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: services for groups who knows what that means brought in 291 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy million dollars in twenty twenty three. 292 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: That is a nine figure jump. Is what does that 293 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: calculate to? I guess, I guess that's that's millions of 294 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: dollars extra in the last six years. And you know what, 295 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: they have complaints in lawsuits over violence and sexual misconduct. 296 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: So you give us one hundred and seventy million dollars 297 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: and we'll beat up the homeless people and have sex 298 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: with them. That's better than the open crowd. Right, Oakland 299 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: was just stealing money and having sex with the homeless. 300 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: In LA, they do one better. They'll beat them up first. 301 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: While the state sends local governments hundreds of millions of 302 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: dollars for shelters, it does little to ensure accountability. The 303 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: shelters have become a bridge to nowhere. According to cow Matters, 304 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: Oh this is really good because we have a we 305 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: have a train to nowhere, and now we have a 306 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: bridge to nowhere. So the train will take you to 307 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: nowhere where you can go and visit all the homeless 308 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: people who took the bridge to nowhere and are dying 309 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: and being literally screwed over by the shelter workers. There's 310 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: a lot more in these count matters investigations that I 311 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: want to get to at least a little bit every day. 312 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: But I mean there's dozens and dozens of pages. 313 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobel's on Demand from A sixty. 314 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: We're on from one until four o'clock, and then after 315 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: four John Cobelt Show on to band the podcast Debra's 316 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: News at three o'clock to be followed by Alex Stone 317 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: and he'll have the latest on another story that seems 318 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: to change every couple hours, like what happened to Gene 319 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: Hackman and his wife and their dog. They turned up dead. 320 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: Hackman was ninety five years old, the wife sixty three, 321 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: and it turned out they were dead for maybe two weeks, 322 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: and the wife at least had started mummifying. So you know, 323 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: at first you heard the story and you thought, well, 324 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: maybe carbon monoxide poisoning, and you assumed it had happened overnight, 325 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,239 Speaker 1: but they had. By the way, when you hear they 326 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: live in sata fe you don't know people at sata Fey. 327 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: Maybe they leave live in shacks or maybe they live 328 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: in you know, huge celebrity compounds. Well for Hackman it 329 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: was the latter, So it's kind of mysterious. Two dogs survived, 330 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 1: one dog did not. I don't know, Like I said, 331 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: TMZ seems to be breaking a lot of news on this. 332 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: We'll talk with Alex Stone coming up. Michael Monks is 333 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: here now, and you are not mummifying it. I'm not 334 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: mummifying it. 335 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 5: I didn't realize is that the only two options for 336 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 5: living in Santa Fez. 337 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: You've got a shack or a mansion from what I understand. Yeah, 338 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: well I heard it might be carbon monoxide. I'm thinking, oh, 339 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: he must have, you know, been into living outdoors simply, 340 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, in a wooden cabin, you know, something really 341 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: rustic and cool. And they had some kind of heater 342 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: that went haywire, because I mean, who dies of carbon 343 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: monoxide poisoning when you're worth millions and millions of dollars 344 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: right in any event, Michael Monks was at the Menendez 345 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: brother's family press conference today. Yesterday, the story was that 346 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: Governor news someone wants the Parole Board to do a 347 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: risk assessment, so if he decides to give him clemency 348 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: and they're released, what is the risk that they're going 349 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: to shoot other people in the head. So today was 350 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: the Menendez family what they have to say. 351 00:20:58,520 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 5: Well, they have to say that the risk of them 352 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 5: shooting somebody else in the head is non existent, and 353 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 5: they seem very optimistic that these brothers are going to 354 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 5: get out of prison, and they're expressing a lot of 355 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 5: gratitude for Governor Newsom calling for this risk assessment. They 356 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 5: seem to think that this is going to lead to 357 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 5: the release of these brothers for the first time since 358 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 5: nineteen eighty nine. Now, this press conference that happened today 359 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 5: by the Justice for Lyle and Eric group, mostly family 360 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 5: members and supporters of their release. It was supposed to 361 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 5: be yesterday, but the news of the governor's risk assessment 362 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 5: call came out and they canceled their news conference. So 363 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 5: the suspicion was they were going to come out critical 364 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 5: of La County District Attorney Nathan Hawkman and the conclusion 365 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 5: he reached last week that there is no need for 366 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 5: a new trial. This new evidence they're calling for really 367 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 5: hasn't been substantiated to a level where I think we 368 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 5: need to have a third trial for these guys. 369 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: So I mean there's three options. We probably should go 370 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: through the options every time we do this. Yes, sure, 371 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: of course, either they resentence Menendez brothers, and they could 372 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: resentence them essentially to time served. There's a brand new 373 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: trial entirely because of these new letters that have been 374 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: found where the Menendez brothers indicated how badly they were 375 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: being treated sexually by their father. And the third option 376 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: is new suggest to give them clemency. They go home. 377 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: That's not a pardon, but it's like whatever time you served, 378 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: that's it. That's right. 379 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 5: And Nathan Hafckman laid it out pretty clearly last week 380 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 5: he said these are the three options. He also made 381 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 5: it clear that he was only speaking last week on 382 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 5: the new trial. He says his office's official position on 383 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 5: resentencing would come later within the next couple of weeks, 384 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 5: so maybe we'll see that next week. So what he 385 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 5: is considering is whether the evidence that they've found or 386 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 5: decided was relevant now is related to the sexual abuse 387 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 5: that they claim to have suffered under the hands of 388 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 5: their father, and whether that warrants either a new trial 389 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 5: because it was obviously not considered enough in the nineties, 390 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 5: or if perhap perhaps it indicates that they have served 391 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 5: enough time and so that they should be resentenced. With 392 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 5: that being taken under consideration, it's also a consideration for 393 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 5: the parole board, which also has a list of things 394 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 5: to consider. The remorse that they might have. The family 395 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 5: says that they've expressed their remorse the social history. 396 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: Why would you believe that, Well, here's what they said 397 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: the thirty six years. I'd expressed remorse to anything you 398 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: want me to. 399 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, they say that the brothers since they've been 400 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 5: in prison, they've done all this good stuff. You know, 401 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 5: they're leading meditation, you know, and aa tight meetings in 402 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 5: the prison. 403 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: Well maybe they should be allowed to continue all that 404 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: good work. 405 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 5: Well, they probably will continue to do that if they 406 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 5: remain in prison, right because they're always going to hold 407 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 5: onto hope that they're going to get out. 408 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: If they're doing so much good, let them do more 409 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: good the prison is probably what are they going to 410 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: do on the outside. They're not going to do the 411 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: same kind of good. That's actually something the parole board 412 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: has to consider. What is the plan for the future. 413 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: So what is the Menindez brother's plan for the future. 414 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: I imagine when you have a high profile case like theirs. 415 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: There will be a lot of opportunities for them to 416 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: cash home. And in fact, all the documentaries and the 417 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: books that have been written, did they have a financial 418 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: interest in any of this? I don't know. I don't know. 419 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: Do they have a secret pot of money waiting for 420 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: them in the Cayman Island. So we'll keep in mind 421 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: they came from a pretty well to do family good 422 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills, so they weren't want for money back 423 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: in the day. They were just unless they were cut 424 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: out of the will, well, that may have been something 425 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: to the fact consider as well. They certainly wouldn't be 426 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: in the will now Betten. Yeah, I just I just 427 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: wonder are they going to end up being kind of 428 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: these these crazy playboy celebrities and they're dancing with the stars. Well, 429 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: look at all the women who want them. Yeah, yeah, 430 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: dancing with the stars. Exactly. I turn on my TV 431 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: and I see Lyle and Eric dancing with the stars. 432 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: You know, I'm jumping off the I'm jumping off the bridge. 433 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: I mean, gee, come on. Well, that's what the family 434 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: is saying is that these are good guys. Now, they've 435 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: done a good job in prison. They are rehabilitated, and 436 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: they've done good things to help rehability. Netflix, so'll get 437 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: them one hundred million dollars for a series of documentary. 438 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 5: I think their future is pretty well played. The other 439 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 5: thing that they noticed is that the parole board will 440 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 5: consider a lack of criminal history. The cousin who spoke 441 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 5: today at the press conference said, other than the murders, 442 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 5: they haven't done any other crimes other. 443 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:17,719 Speaker 1: Than the murders. Did he actually say that. 444 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 5: Yes, Anna Maria Barral says, you know, they made this 445 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 5: one big mistake in nineteen eighty nine, but other than that, 446 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 5: they haven't done anything else. 447 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: They mistakenly went out and bought what would they kill 448 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: them with? Shotguns? 449 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 450 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they mistakenly bought some shotguns, brought them back, blew 451 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: away the parents. In fact, didn't they go outside and 452 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: come back and finish mom off? They did and made 453 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: another mistake. 454 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 5: And lied, lied to investigators, moved around a little bit, 455 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 5: you know. I mean, there was a laundry list of 456 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 5: crimes that were committed around this central crisis. 457 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: They're an insanity gene in the Menendas family. I mean, 458 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: are they all crazy? No? 459 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 5: In fact, this this woman says that many of the 460 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 5: family believed for a long time that they were mistreated 461 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 5: and that this was unhandled correctly. 462 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: How do you think you're gonna get treated when you 463 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: blow your parents' heads off? Exactly? How should we treat you? 464 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: They didn't get the death penalty. 465 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 5: I think they caught a huge break on that they 466 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 5: didn't get the death penalty. And this family member and 467 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 5: other family members have said that they do believe that 468 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 5: the brothers were sexually abused, and that while they acknowledge 469 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 5: a crime was committed, that they're well enough time. 470 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: They acknowledge a crime, right, all right, Michael, that's very distressing, Yes, 471 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: very disturbed. Thank you for helping me find my phone yesterday, 472 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: though you didn't, I was happy to explore the grounds. 473 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: We did. We did. We took a nice tour of 474 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: the whole building and the all the whole balked along 475 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: the freeway a little bit. Yeah, that was fun. All right. Well, 476 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: when we come back, I have not one not to 477 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: debor you'll enjoy this, but I have three stories about disease, 478 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: three things that will probably frighten you. And then uh, 479 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,479 Speaker 1: we'll talk to Alex Stone to see if there's any 480 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: more information about these strange deaths of Gene Hackman, his 481 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: wife and his dog in Santa Fe, New Mexico. And 482 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: apparently the wife was mummifying, so they were dead for 483 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: a while. 484 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI. 485 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: A six coming up after three o'clock. What happened to 486 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: the famous actor Gene Hackman and his wife and their dog. 487 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: They all turned up dead and may have been dead 488 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: for two weeks and their home in Santa Fe. Story 489 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: keeps changing. You probably haven't heard the latest. I probably 490 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: haven't heard the latest. But that's why we have Alex 491 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: Stone coming on from ABC News right after three o'clock 492 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: News with Deborah. All Right, before I have all these 493 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: disease stories that's going to upset you, I have one 494 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: happy story. It's about a dog. You heard about this 495 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: dog in Corona. It's a Bernese Mountain dog seven months old. 496 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: They rushed the dog to a ventary center because she 497 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: began vomiting and the little puppy, the abdomen was firm 498 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: right and distended. Obviously, there was something wrong here, and 499 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: so they performed exploratory surgery on Luna. Luna and they 500 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: found something inside the belly they found forty four objects 501 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: in the belly. 502 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 6: I saw this online. I could not believe that. 503 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: Most of them were socks. This girl ate forty, well 504 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: almost forty four pairs of well twenty two pairs of socks. 505 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, and you could see in the X ray 506 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: the build up in her inner stomach. They found two 507 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: dozen socks a onesie what sie? Oh yeah, I don't know. 508 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: Why would you? Why would a dog eat socks? Well? 509 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: I did have. 510 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 7: I had a cocker spaniel and I had to have 511 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 7: the dog on steroids because she was ill at one point. 512 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 7: This is many many years ago, and she ate a 513 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 7: pair of my nylons. Oh my, so I had to 514 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 7: take her to the emergency vet. 515 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: Perft dogs. 516 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 7: Oh, I know, because the steroids make the dogs very hungry. So, 517 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 7: but this is a puppy, and I doubt the puppy 518 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 7: was on a steroid. I mean, look, dogs liked I 519 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 7: mean puppies. They chew on everything, They eat everything, I 520 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 7: don't know what. 521 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: To eat them and swallow and like it so much. Yes, 522 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: one sock I could see, but one dry cottony sock 523 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: that might have been worn. And it's like this is good, 524 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: that's good stuff. All right, now on to the diseases. 525 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: None of this is good news, but hey, you don't 526 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: tune in for good news, do you. There is a 527 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: in the Democratic Republic of Congo in Africa, there is 528 00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: a fast spreading mystery illness linked to bats. Bats. I 529 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: was up to me, yeah, I'd kill every bat on 530 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: the planet. I'm not. I would be no, it would 531 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: be a genocide of bats. Within within forty eight hours 532 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: of showing system. Within forty eight hours of showing symptoms, 533 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: half the people die because the disease causes uncontrolled bleeding. 534 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: Oh that'll take you out, bleeding from a where there's 535 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: an opening, you're bleeding from it, vomiting diarrhea and other 536 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: symptoms of hemorrhagic fever. You I mean, good lord, This 537 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: is not even a bola which they get that that 538 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: which they get in that area. In the past, it 539 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: was discovered in three children in the village of Boloco. 540 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: The children were vomiting blood and they all died within 541 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: two days. A few weeks later, there was a second, 542 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: larger at break one hundred miles away in the village 543 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: of Bomati. Hundreds of people got ill. This could be 544 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: a new virus that has never been discovered, set a 545 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: professor of infectious disease Matteo Bassetti, And they don't know 546 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: anything about it or how it's transmitted, but I would 547 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: cancel that trip to the Congo. Meantime, our friends in 548 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: Wuhan who brought us the coronavirus, they have a new 549 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: product they're putting out on the market. Chinese scientists are 550 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: planning ominous experiments similar to those that triggered the COVID pandemic. 551 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: Oh yes, this time they're advertising it upfront though. The 552 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: Wuhan Institute Virology that was home base for COVID they 553 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: have published new research this month announcing it. It found another 554 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: bat coronavirus again with the bats that can enter human cells, 555 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: very similar to a COVID nineteen infection. Well wait wait, 556 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: why because they can? 557 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 6: Well, I mean that makes no sense. I mean they 558 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 6: had to deal with the pandemic too. 559 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: They didn't care. They covered it up and blame it 560 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: on random animals at the at the food market. 561 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 7: Well, why doesn't Trump impose a bigger tear of Hey, 562 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 7: keep the viruses away or. 563 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna The paper says they're going to do further 564 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: investigation into strains of the virus that have more infectious 565 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: spike proteins, and they're going to test in mice as well. 566 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, we need to stop this. I mean none 567 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 7: of us, I mean PTSD. 568 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: When I hear COVID and this, I think Trump should 569 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: drop a nuclear missile on the Wuhan Institute of Virology. 570 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 7: He needs to do something seriously. I mean, get him 571 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 7: on the phone, John and tell him. 572 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: That he I think he needs a therapy cause I. 573 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 7: Need so too, and say that you know what, none 574 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 7: of us are going to We're all going to need 575 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 7: a lot of therapy if there's another pandemic like that. 576 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: Doctor Elena Chan is a biosecurity expert and says the 577 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: paper ends on an ominous note describing a set of 578 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: future experiments similar to what might have led to COVID nineteen. 579 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: They're going to test more of such viruses with different 580 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: looking spike proteins. They're going to study cleavage sites and 581 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: how they activate the spike in these viruses, and they're 582 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: going to cause the virus. They're going to study the virus' 583 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: ability to cause disease in humanized mice. So that's another 584 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: part of the experiment is they take human genes and 585 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: splice them into mice and then watch what the virus 586 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: does to the mice, and then they know what it'll 587 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: do to people. 588 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, that's very mean, and I'm scaring 589 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 6: it is. 590 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 7: But okay, so this is out right, it's not hidden. 591 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 6: So what are we doing about this? 592 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's to me, it's nuclear missile time. 593 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: There's no reasoning with these people. This is all financed 594 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: by the Chinese government. So is the first round? I 595 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: think it backfired on them. They didn't expect it. 596 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 6: Oh, and so nothing's gonna happen this time around. 597 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. And finally, one more real quick. Health 598 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: officials are warning of a potential measles outbreak at LAX. 599 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: Passenger arrived on a Korean air flight tested positive four measles. 600 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: Specifically was February nineteenth, during the hours of one and 601 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: four Terminal B that's the international terminal, right, yep. And 602 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: they're working to notify passengers on the flight who might 603 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: have been close enough to the to the infected measles passenger, 604 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: anybody who might have crossed paths with the patient. Well, 605 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: how would we know that unless he had a big 606 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: neon m on his head. There's no way. But anyway, 607 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: if you were, if you were in Terminal B between 608 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: one and four o'clock and February the nineteenth, maybe you're 609 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: going to get the measles if you haven't been vaccinated. 610 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 6: So uplifting with. 611 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 1: That hiking for it was that one, two three? Huh? Yeah? 612 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: I love it all right? What happened to Gene Hackman 613 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: and his wife and their dog and when did it happen? 614 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: Because the wife was mummifying they found him on the floor. 615 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: That's a real mystery, mystery that changes by the hour. 616 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: And we're gonna have Alex Stone from ABC News tell 617 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: us what the latest is. Deborah mark Litten the CAFI 618 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: twenty four hour Newsroom, Hey, you've been listening to The 619 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: John Cobalt Show podcast. 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