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Speaker 1: All right, Gil, Let's get right into it.

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Speaker 2: King's bag.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers one thirty one twenty Lebron left the game

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Speaker 1: locker room. Darvin Ham said, they're real, they're evaluating him

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Speaker 1: at the moment, so no update. The Lakers led by

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Speaker 1: nineteen in the first quarter before a massive turnaround, and

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Speaker 1: the second quarter had them down fifteen at the half,

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Speaker 1: And this was a consequential loss for the Lakers because

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Speaker 1: And see that's what that happened the last couple of games.

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Speaker 1: I call him fifty to fifty players where if they

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Speaker 1: missed three four in a row is the I'm done? Right?

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Speaker 1: You know? You have to still be engaged and do

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Speaker 1: they didn't play any defense. Darren Fox got whatever he wanted.

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Speaker 2: They give M one thirty. That tells me you didn't

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Speaker 1: They didn't play no defense. It's like, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I've got because.

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Speaker 1: If I'm losing, if I lose two or the three

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Speaker 1: If I lose all three of them, I'm damn sure

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Speaker 1: And this is why, this is why the ideal of

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Speaker 1: where if you think about it, he had more offensive

435
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Speaker 1: rebounds than the Lakers had as a team.

436
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Speaker 2: That cannot happen, gil, I.

437
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 1: Mean, technically, he's getting all the defensive rebound. That means

438
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: someone ain't getting offensive rebounds. Well, well he found a

439
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 1: way to get four and the Lakers found a way

440
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: to get three. So how did that happen? See, he's

441
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: doing his damn job. See that's that's what I'm saying.

442
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just got a sign. Shit, yeah, I thought

443
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: play's good. You look at ruy Rue has been playing well.

444
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: Thirteen to seventeen, three or five, twenty nine points, Lebron

445
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: ten of sixteen, one of four from three, ten from

446
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: the free throw line, thirty one points. D Los struggled

447
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: to night he was three or ten. He had to

448
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: go a little bit early, two or six from the three,

449
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: two or two from the free throw line. Aust reed

450
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 1: six to fifteen, four to seven from the three point line.

451
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: But where they killed us is on the bench. Their

452
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: bench came in and gave him fifty, and the Lakers

453
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Speaker 1: bench probably gave them. Did they give him twenty? Let's

454
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: see six, seven, fifteen, eighteen, fifty to eighteen and bench points.

455
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: Unless your starters go hey wire, you're probably gonna lose

456
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: if a team's bench outscores you by that margin. Unless

457
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: you got Unless Lebron goes for fifty eighty goals for thirty.

458
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 2: You're gonna lose that game.

459
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Speaker 1: No, that's facts, that's facts. It was just one of

460
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: those games where they just didn't They didn't, they didn't.

461
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 1: They didn't play all the way to they had a

462
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: great first quarter, then from there they just you know,

463
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 1: laid an egg.

464
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, Yo.

465
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Speaker 1: There's an article that came out this morning talking about

466
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Speaker 1: Lebron scoring his forty career point defeat no one else

467
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: has ever accomplished, It said. Lebron has privately questioned whether

468
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: the Laker nation would fully ever embrace him after seeing

469
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Speaker 1: him battle their beloved Kobe Bryant for so long. Acknowledged

470
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: the way the fans and the franchise showed up for him.

471
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: Much respect and much loyalty to Laker fans, to Laker

472
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Speaker 1: fan base for showing me that love, Lebron said, being

473
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Speaker 1: the first player to do something that's pretty cool in

474
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Speaker 1: this league. Are you surprised, I'm surprised that Lebron surprised

475
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Speaker 1: that he thought he was gonna be able to win

476
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: over Laker Nation. Lebron could have won a championship every

477
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Speaker 1: year he would have been here, and he still wasn't

478
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Speaker 1: gonna surpass Kobe, and he still wasn't gonna pass Magic.

479
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen, just like for the most look,

480
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: he is a better player to d Wade. Miami was't

481
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: gonna embrace him like they did d Wade because d

482
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: Wade originally there.

483
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: He d Wade grew there. He was planting in that soul.

484
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: He grew there. Same thing with Kobe.

485
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: They dropped him off as a seventeen your kid, and

486
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: he became a man, He became a father, he became

487
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Speaker 1: a husband here.

488
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: It was never good, KD. I don't know KT.

489
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: KT couldn't have thought that he was going to ever

490
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: be ingratiate himself in warrior culture like Steph if he's original, Yeah,

491
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: I mean we you know it deep down inside. But

492
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Speaker 1: you know, you have the idea when you.

493
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Speaker 2: Come to town, fans come out, right. Yeah.

494
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Speaker 1: So you know when he came to La remember he's

495
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: only coming there once once a year, right, right, it's

496
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: once a year when he for the Clippers, he is

497
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: the fan favorite when he came to town for the clip show, right.

498
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: So sometimes you know, as players, we think our presence

499
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: when we come to town is that's us, you know,

500
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: so I think he got a rude awakening or just

501
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: reality hit his first week here.

502
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: They debase them, but.

503
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Speaker 1: You would think that at your greatness, and I think,

504
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, everyone kind of like didn't understand what I

505
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: said where he doesn't deserve a statue statue because he hasn't.

506
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: He hasn't.

507
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: Lebron James the name fuck yeah, has a statue. Lebron

508
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: James Laker resume doesn't have a statue here.

509
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 2: His resume as a Laker is.

510
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: Eighty nine, probably nine thousand points as of today, nine

511
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: thousand eighty got that one championship.

512
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: That is not a statue, right.

513
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: Jersey in the raptors, yeah, ga, nine thousand points, you know,

514
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: six times all All Star five time on him, which

515
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: would be six you know, yeah, but a statue outside

516
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: now that the minimum he's gonna need is the beat

517
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: shock at the teen thousand points right in this uniform, right,

518
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: that's what it is.

519
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 2: Uniform.

520
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: His statue is going to be outside of Cleveland. That's

521
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: where his statue. That's where it went in Miami too.

522
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: Maybe I would you would tell me the guy that

523
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: got two MVPs and two finals MVPs with four final appearances,

524
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, when we're not talking about

525
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: his resumes, we're talking about his relationship. Oh yeah, well okay,

526
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: that's a different Okay, that's a different pat Rody is

527
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: gonna have to be have to have to leave before

528
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: being Yeah, so you know, so we're not talking about were.

529
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's one of those things where.

530
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: You know, he plays, he plays three four more years

531
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: and he gets to about thirteen points. Right, he can

532
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: make your argument, but that's what I'm saying. Shacks resume

533
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: is three rings, three finals, MVPs, three finals, MVP with

534
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: thirteen thousand points as a Laker, and that's the bottom

535
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: end of you know, of the of the total pole there.

536
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 2: So he was a rental.

537
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: He was no different than you know, uh, Wilt Chamberlain

538
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: when he came. You know, Lebron was a rental for

539
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: the Lakers greatness. And you know that's just something that

540
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: he's just going to.

541
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: Have to accept.

542
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: Right, even though most of his his his milestones came

543
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: in this uniform. Thirty thousand passing Kolbe, passing Kareem, forty

544
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: thousand assists rebounds. Yeah, the milestones were hit here, but

545
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: the legacy wasn't built here, and that's just something he's

546
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: just going to have to really just understand.

547
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: And it's just it's just part of the game, that's all.

548
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: It ain't nothing nothing personal, right, I mean, if he

549
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: was if he was a if this was the Clipper nation, right, yeah,

550
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: you have climbers take anybody. Hell, they take me and

551
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: you right down, Gil I mean, we were with fifty games.

552
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: We get our jerseys on best right, to get best

553
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: right to get to the NBA finals.

554
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: Oh, they're gonna beild a statue of you. Boy got.

555
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: They have a sensu of the whole goddamn James family

556
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: out there.

557
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: Come hold down.

558
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: But I think look, I used when I was describing

559
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: KD going to Golden State, I said Golden State was

560
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: new addition. Bobby Brown left. They brought Johnny gill in.

561
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: Johnny gil Can out saying Bobby browne. But he was

562
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: never gonna be accepted by the fans because Bobby Brown

563
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: grew up with those guys in Rocksburgh. Yep, that's just

564
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: the way it is. Kobe Bryant grew here, Magic Johnson

565
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: grew here. Now we know what Kareem is. But that's

566
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: why people know. That's why no one ever puts Kareem

567
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: as the greatest Laker because he didn't grow here. He

568
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: got three of those MVPs in Milwaukee. He got one

569
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: of those finals of that finals MVP in Milwaukee. So

570
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: he that's what they got. They know, most people, ninety

571
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: percent of the people got Kobe first, and then the

572
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: other nine percent nine point five percent got Magic, and

573
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: then then they'll freaking maybe Kareem. Yep.

574
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: That's that's just the way it is. That's that's that's

575
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: you know.

576
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: It's where it's where you say, it's where they see

577
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: you grow. See you know, Magic and Magic and Cole.

578
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: They watched them from kids, yes, oildhood right with magic

579
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: guy here you're talking about wide eyed kids still young

580
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: teen or shit, he's twenty right, still not old enough

581
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: to get into the club, right, That's who they see

582
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: grow to the legacy that he became.

583
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: So you got to watch him build like Shaq came.

584
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: Shack already had his name, right, Will already had his name,

585
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 1: Kareem already had his name, Lebron already had his name.

586
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: So there the Golden Children of Los Angeles is Kobe

587
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: and Magic. Yeah, and another word, I was just thinking

588
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: about it. You probably don't remember this, but no matter

589
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: who came, like David Ruffing, it's known as the best

590
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: singer of the Temptations. They had others come in, but

591
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: they wasn't David Ruffing. Yeah, so that's just that's just

592
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: the way it is. Who were the originals? Who was

593
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: the ogs? And I don't care. They could have had

594
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: somebody come in and that could play the guitar better

595
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: than Paul McCartney or could sing better than John Lennon,

596
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: but they didn't start with them, and they were never

597
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: gonna be embraced like them.

598
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: That's just the way it is. That's just the that's

599
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: just the way it goes.

600
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: That's every but you know, that's everything. That's just everything

601
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: in life. Right, Sometimes we get stuck, We get stuck

602
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: with what we like and we don't like to add

603
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: or change. You know, we're gonna always compare it to

604
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: what the original was. And that's just the way human

605
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: human human nature is, right, we're always And that's same

606
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: thing with the eighties, right, that first vision of basketball.

607
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: That's what we like. Yeah, you change it from that,

608
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: we don't like it.

609
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, that's just the first

610
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: The first thing we see. That's usually you know what

611
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: we go off of, and that is the measuring stick

612
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: moving forward, right. Uh. The Warriors beat the Bucks one nineties.

613
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: Steph puts on the show tonight as he beat the

614
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: Red Hot Bucks. The Bucks said, what one they hadn't won?

615
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: They hadn't lost since the All Star Game? After the

616
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: horrible loss going into the All Star Game from Memphis Grizzly.

617
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: Steph had twenty nine points on six May three, eight rebounds,

618
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: five assists. The Warriors have won have won six of

619
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: their last eight. The Warriors last two have Sunday just

620
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: to sell they had thirty eight points tonight they had

621
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: seventy eight points. M hm, what was the difference, Gil

622
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: besides shots not your shots falling that came.

623
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: Through the book for the books or the Golden State Warriors.

624
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: We go with the Golden State.

625
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: Say they had thirty eight and a half tonight they

626
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: had thirty seventy eight at the half.

627
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: You know, you know, I think you know what just

628
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: starting off.

629
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: With with Boston, right, you know, A a real defensive team,

630
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: not a fake sat defensive team, a real defensive team.

631
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: You know, played them different, played them to their strengths,

632
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: which became Go to State weaknesses Jalen Brown hidden shots kind.

633
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: Of threw them off a little bit.

634
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: Them missing shots, so they didn't have.

635
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: The swagger that they had tonight. You know tonight.

636
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's just like any championship team, just like

637
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: any great greatness, you have to have a bount back game.

638
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: You know there's gonna be some games where you just

639
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: played horrible, But what is your snapback look like? Right?

640
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: And go to State snapback was tonight eighty. We had

641
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: thirty seven person we got eighty tonight. Right. It's all

642
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 1: about the snap back, and that's why they are champs.

643
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: That's why they're four times champs. You know, the key

644
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 2: the key parts of that team.

645
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you look at Dremond, he had a twelve six

646
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: and six game. Kamingo with twenty had twenty points. Wiggins

647
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: who came back to the lineup, he only had three.

648
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: Steph Curry was sensational again. And then you got t Jackson.

649
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Speaker 1: He gave you fifteen. So they got Chris Paul gave

650
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Speaker 1: him ten. No, Clay Thompson gave him ten, but they

651
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Speaker 1: got they got an all around game. And you're right,

652
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: Johannis was eight of fifteen he had twenty three points.

653
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: Dame was seven and sixteen, but he's five and ten

654
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: from the three point line. Bobby Porters gave him twenty

655
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 1: points off the bench. But like you said, one team

656
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: shot thirty six thirty eight percent from the floor in

657
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: twenty five percent from the three, and the other team

658
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: shot fifty six from the floor and forty almost forty

659
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: nine percent from the three. One team made nineteen three,

660
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Speaker 1: the other main eleven. Yep, well there's a plus twenty

661
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: four right there. Yeah, listen, this is why I don't

662
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: like stats, and I just like, you know, reality, because

663
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: you can make stats look the way you want them

664
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Speaker 1: to write. Like Bucks. Oh my god, the Bucks is

665
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: playing very well again too, right, they beat they beat

666
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: the Bulls trash right, they beat Charlotte twice trash, right,

667
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: and you beat seventy six is while without Jolan Beid trash.

668
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: So four to six wins came from trash teams.

669
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Speaker 2: That's what you're supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: Now they want to yell out, oh my god, the

671
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: defense is so great.

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Speaker 2: They went from nineteen to five. Hold on, this is

673
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: not how you.

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00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: Look at this, because yeah, they were nineteen before Doc

675
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: got there. Now their fifth. This is not the defense,

676
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: this is the offense.

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00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: Right. The offense was second, now the offense is twenty.

678
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: What he did was slowed the.

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00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: Game down, less possessions for the opposite team. Oh okay,

680
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: that's all it was. It's nothing to do with shuit

681
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: Well defensive principle locking in on that on the defensive end. Yes,

682
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: he's slowing the game down offensively, so it looks like

683
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,479
Speaker 1: the teams are not scoring as much, right, But that's

684
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: all it is. It has nothing to do That's why

685
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: I said this. Your team was second before you got there, nineteen.

686
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: Now your defense is five, but your your offense is

687
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: twentieth since you've been coaching, right, right, I mean it's

688
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: overall your twentieth in offense, which is horrible.

689
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 2: Right, man, go to stay crushed him on the glass.

690
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: I rebound him fifty to thirty six and out assisted

691
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: them thirty seven and nineteen. And you would think with Giannis,

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00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: with Bobby Porters, with a Brook Lopez, how the hell

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Speaker 1: to somebody? But I should know brook Lopez averaged like

694
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: seven and says for a career in the Dude seven twelve,

695
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 1: So I shouldn't be surprised by that because He's never

696
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: been known as a rebounding a rebounder is even for

697
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: a big. He's a below average rebounder for somewhat his side.

698
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: Brook Lopez ought to be shamed himself. He had full rebounds. No,

699
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Speaker 1: that's get I get you with two artificial here right now,

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Speaker 1: Gill fifty five, I do with box out, like to

701
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Speaker 1: be honest, like, yeah, you're boxing out, but no, we

702
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: need rebounding. Boxing out is cool. It's like he's been

703
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: taught just box your man out and we're gonna team rebound.

704
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: This ain't no team rebounding.

705
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: Type of.

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00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 4: Ball.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem. You got all that height back there

708
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Speaker 1: and you got rebound. You're getting out rebounded by an

709
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: undersized team is a problem. Yes, I mean the tallest

710
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: guy there started was Kaminga. How tall is cominga six

711
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: nine six eight? Maybe it's a wigga? Yeah, and you

712
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: got you.

713
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: Got a bunch of group six eight across the board.

714
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: And you got and you got Jannis at six eleven,

715
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: you got Lopez at seven two, and you may to

716
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Speaker 1: tell me you got I rebounded by those guys. And

717
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: then you've got Bobby Porters at sixteen. Yeah, kaminga six

718
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: seven kaminga six seven. Wiggans got to be at least

719
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Speaker 1: six seven, So that's even worse because you got two

720
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Speaker 1: guys the tallest guys. They starting a college team, college

721
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Speaker 1: team starting to start six seven, He go six seven,

722
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: six seven, maybe six nine six five six three. I

723
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Speaker 1: mean it's the high school team. This high school team,

724
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: high school team. Figger than that. Yeah, yeah, uh uh

725
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: man Brook Lopez. He ought to be ashamed of himself.

726
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: I only get that many rebounds, Gil, what you want

727
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: to talk about, I guess, but look, uh, you know

728
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: you have to do give you have to give gold

729
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: to state credit to because because they're a small team,

730
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: they do focus on getting the ball right. This is

731
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Speaker 1: we're gonna all go after the ball so we can

732
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: get into our bread, you know. But you know what

733
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: it is though, Gil, also is that when you shoot

734
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: the wh when teams shoot a lot of threes, ain't

735
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: no telling what the ball gonna go. So now it's

736
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Speaker 1: a hustle a situation. It's not like, you know, guys

737
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: shooting three, you're like, Okay, it's gonna it's gonna For

738
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: the most part, Man, when you shoot a three, it

739
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: might take a long bout.

740
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: It might go straight up in there.

741
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: It might go way over here, might go way over there,

742
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: might come way out here. And then when you got

743
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: no small guys, because it ain't like Brook Lopez, you know.

744
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: He flee the foot, you know what I'm saying. But

745
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: every every team, like it's just one of those things.

746
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: Every team, every team, you getting four five yeah, yeah,

747
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: oh yeah, oh yeah he he.

748
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Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, he probably averages seven rebounds

749
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: for a career, which is horrible for a guy his side.

750
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: Now I'm not saying it's horrible.

751
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: I mean because you get a guard to average that

752
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: or or you know, a point guard Rough probably averages that.

753
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: Lebron averages that for a career, yes, but for course

754
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: for center. Yeah it's horrible. Yeah, like it's terrible. The

755
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: Magic beat the Wizards, Magical quality. Fourth in the East,

756
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: Polo bank Carroll twenty five point six rebounds, Tennis sister

757
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: in the win tonight. Why do you believe Polo and

758
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: the magic of flying under the radars? One in a

759
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: small market to their young team. No one, you know,

760
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: no one respects the young teams. But the young teams

761
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: in this league are starting to play very hard. They

762
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: are the most consistent at showing up every day, right,

763
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: you know those you know the Orlandos, the Calves of Sacramento.

764
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: They run, they run, Gil, everybody load manage. Everybody's trying

765
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: to load manage the me On boys like, nah, we.

766
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Speaker 2: Were good over here. We can play our thirty eight

767
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 2: forty one. We were good over here, coach.

768
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: So the fact that that just the consistency of them

769
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: just playing hard every game and they know they can

770
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: steal some of these wins on teams that are load managing. Yeah,

771
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I ain't really putting a whole lot of

772
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: thoughts because they beat They beat the Wizard to night

773
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: and the Wizards. Me and the Wizards won the same

774
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: amount of games in February zero. We want the same

775
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: for the same amount of games in March thus far zero.

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00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: So I'm not putting a whole lot of car And

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00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: guess what, Gil, they might not win another damn game. Listen,

778
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: the best thing the Wizards had going on tonight is

779
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: the hat that I gave. I designed, I designed from

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00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: March six, specially design a legend, a legacy hat. Yeah,

781
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: the first ten thousand people showed up got the hat.

782
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 2: That's what sold the building out.

783
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: You know what I have killed, got the hat and

784
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: lift because already I already know we gonna catch it in.

785
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: I got to be a hand, said, this is what

786
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: I came for.

787
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: I paid three three four a hand. That's funny. Probably

788
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 1: some of them probably did that.

789
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.

790
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, guess what it's time for our next segment of

791
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: the night, and it's called news cap.

792
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: Let's see what we're starting off with.

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00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: First, Jay's out, Gil your Donna's has them saying Chris

794
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: Bosh was more important than Lebron James than the Big

795
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: Three era.

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00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: Can we take a listen to what you d U

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Speaker 2: d had to say.

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Speaker 5: Let's play the sound I'm telling you, c B, if

799
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 5: you said healthy would have been still be playing.

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00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 6: Everybody think that our most important player was Bron, our

801
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 6: most important player, not our best player, but the most

802
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 6: important play with Yeah, he was the most important. Print

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00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 6: If Bron went down, you could bring in d Wade

804
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 6: and it's not the same player, but you're gonna get

805
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 6: similar results of what you're gonna get out of the

806
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 6: player making plays.

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00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: He can go for thirty. We couldn't. We couldn't simulate it.

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00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: We ain't have another c B.

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00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 5: The way it's supposed started using them too. Was impossible

810
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 5: to guard like he was shooting threes like he was.

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Speaker 5: That's why that man was cold. Brother closed it out

812
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 5: on threes as a big I'm.

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00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: Saying, yeah, go ahead, you'll take it off with this.

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00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:25,959
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: I caught some heat for this. They thought I was

816
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 1: lying enough. A lot of people said, was you there?

817
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: Where'd you get the information? Remember when when but d

818
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: Wade and CP three was talking about we're gonna start

819
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: the Big Three? Yeah, I said, and everybody was like, oh,

820
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: CP three, Wade and Lebron and I came on here

821
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: that that's not what pat Roddy was envisuing. Right. They

822
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: thought they can get rid of Bron and bring in

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00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: CP because they thought that they can replace. What they

824
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: need was somebody who can control the game because they

825
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: felt that they would have won with CP three.

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Speaker 2: Bosh right, Wade.

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Speaker 1: And everybody thought I was triplet when I said that,

828
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 1: But you can see how the players felt. Chris Bosh

829
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: was way more important to the team because he was unreplaceable.

830
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: He can play the five, stretch the floor, he can

831
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Speaker 1: play to be the four and stretch the floor, so

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00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: he was way more important. I just agree team Chris

833
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: bos guard Tony Parker. He couldn't be three, no Lebron did.

834
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Speaker 1: Do you remember those botters when they put when Tony

835
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: Parker went Haywan they lost Game one, and then then

836
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: they started putting Lebron James on Tony Parker and he

837
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: shut it down. And then they moved Lebron James to

838
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: the five and he guarded Tim Duncan. But what I'm

839
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: saying is when I said they were making that trade

840
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: and I said that big three was gonna be with Lebron,

841
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: everybody thought Lebron was gonna be in that Big three,

842
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, nah, they were bringing in they

843
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: were trying to bring in the point guard. They were

844
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: trying to bring in the white for Lebron. Everybody just

845
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: assumed that it was a Lebron and she was gone.

846
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: But you can see how the players you did is

847
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: saying who was important to them? I'm not going to

848
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: disagree and says, you know, well, maybe they weren't looking

849
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: to replace Broun, but CB on his best, they could

850
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: never do all the things that Lebron did. No no, no,

851
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: no no no no like but no like it wasn't

852
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't one of those things where who was the

853
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: better player? Right, we know who the better player is.

854
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 1: Just for what they were trying to do. They were like, well,

855
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: Wade can be Bron, he can have a thirty. We

856
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: need someone who can pass the ball a little bit

857
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: more and it's willing to accept their role.

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00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: So that was the idea that went into the mindset.

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00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: You remember when let me ask your question. You remember

860
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: when le when when when Chris Bosh went down against

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00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: Indiana and he missed what the first four or five games?

862
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: So if Lebron goes down in that series, do they

863
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: win that series? No?

864
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: Why not? The most important player is still there.

865
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: The miss Because that's what I'm saying, this between reality exactly.

866
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: That is Oh, I get it, Oh I want to

867
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: hype all the hype, my guy, c b. I ain't

868
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 1: saying the mast I'm saying the most important. Yeah, if Lebron,

869
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: if Lebron James doesn't play Game six against Boston, c

870
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: be there the most important player?

871
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: Are they winning that game? When Chris Paul with Chris

872
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 2: Bosh no what I'm just saying, but hell no, they're

873
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: not with it. They get that they're not winning that

874
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 2: game with Chris Paul. But that's what I'm saying.

875
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: But that but that's what I'm saying when people when

876
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: people start thinking, that's why they said, like when we

877
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: value that's what I said, players valuating different, They.

878
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: Think like who can make the game easier?

879
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: So we started looking at people's greatness for for I'm like,

880
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: we get we can get rid of y'all because the

881
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: media does it all the time. Oh they better without you.

882
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 2: Players really start.

883
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: Believing that ship that dude, because I'm hold on, what

884
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: did I miss?

885
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: I'm older than Chris Paul. I remember this whole career.

886
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: When did Chris Paul become all of a sudden magic

887
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: Johnson in the postseason?

888
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 2: What? What? What about gil Gil? What did I miss? When?

889
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: When when Bron had that bad Finals and everybody turned

890
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: on Braun and everybody start laughing and old Bron. It

891
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: was it was that summer. That's why I said when

892
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: Chris Paul and d Wade was laughing, they didn't say

893
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: they had a conversation with Lebron. They had a conversation

894
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: with each other, right right? That was it was that

895
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: that that series when they're sitting back and looking like.

896
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: Ship, d Wade Boss played well, Bron didn't play so well.

897
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 2: But Bron don't want to play be pipping.

898
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: We can bring in Chris Fault and he can be

899
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: the pipping for us. So they was themselves eternally was saying,

900
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: we can't replace Bosh, but we can replace Bron and

901
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: still be effective. But you see what happened when Bron Bron.

902
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: So so when Lebron left, what happened because I'm looking

903
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: at it, I'm looking at Lebron.

904
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: Huh, That's what I'm saying.

905
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: But you see, but you see how sometimes even players

906
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 1: misjudge who's important to a tea. Yes, yes, Lebron averaged

907
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: in the twenty twelve postseason run. Lebron averaged thirty almost

908
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: ten rebounds, five almost six or sists, almost two steals

909
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: a game on fifty percent shooting. Yeah, man, we got

910
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: to stop. Look, I'm just I'm baffled. Like I said,

911
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember. I remember every game. Chris

912
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: Chris Paul has never been Lebron. But that's what I'm saying.

913
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: They're not thinking about the championships they won. They thinking

914
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: about that series that they lost, and they're looking at

915
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: the evaluation.

916
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: That's how it is just like when Kobe had to

917
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: prove a point.

918
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: Oh you know, if Kobe passed the ball, you know,

919
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: we can win the series and we can do this

920
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: and do that.

921
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: And Kobe said, okay, okay, loss loss.

922
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: I thought these guys. I thought these guys are supposed

923
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: to be good if I passed the ball, try tra

924
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: r you know what I mean. And that's what ends

925
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: up happening. You get this false sense of what reality

926
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 1: really is. It really it really is, because I mean Lebron.

927
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: And then the next year you follow up averaging twenty

928
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: six almost nine rebounds, almost seven or cents, almost two

929
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: stills the game on forty nine percent shooting. See, sometimes

930
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: you take a person, a player could be so great,

931
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: and you around him, you don't really see the greatness.

932
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: I mean because I disagree.

933
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean, hey see he believed that their most important player.

934
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: But it's hard for me to believe that Chris bosh

935
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: was more important to the Heat because he couldn't do

936
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: the things that Lebron did. Like now, Lebron could literally

937
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: at that point in time in his career, Lebron could

938
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: legitimately guard one through five. Yeah, you know, Tony Parker,

939
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: the d Roll to to a Paul Pierce, to a

940
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: Kevin Gardner, to a Tim Duncan. Now, I'm not saying

941
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: he's gonna take Tim duggantt for the entirety of the game.

942
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's gonna guard Kevin Gardner. But when

943
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: they went to that small when they went to that lineup, oh,

944
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: he absolutely could. Because we saw it in Game seven

945
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: of the final San Antonio. Yeah, but that's no difference

946
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: when like when the coach is putting someone on the

947
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: bench because they think it makes the team better, when

948
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 1: in reality, a don't, right, It's it's just these these false,

949
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: these false pre notions we put in our heads. And

950
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: that's what Miami did. Just like if if someone says

951
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: Pat Bev is the most important player on the defensive.

952
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: End to the Bucks because he talks and then.

953
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: He incites Portois and them to you know, sitting there

954
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: with all this energy and doing all that.

955
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 2: Right, it's believable. But is it reality. Yeah, it's you

956
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 2: know what I mean, that's all it is.

957
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: It's not a reality because if Chris Paul comes there,

958
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 1: you guys are not winning two championships.

959
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: You guys are not even getting to the finals.

960
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: And that's the fact, right, because what happens is Lebron

961
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: gets double, which freese Dwayne Wade. Here's nobody doubling Chris Paul.

962
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna be doubling Dwayne Wade. Now, now CP three

963
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: has to be Dwayne Wade, which he can't do that

964
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: right right, See, Lebron, Dwayne Wade gets to play by himself. Yes,

965
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 1: ISO basketball, he gets to the band.

966
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

967
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: If we double Dwayne Wade, Lebron gets to eat wash

968
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: this to eat. If you doubled Dwayne Wade, Chris Paul

969
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: can't mimic. No, that dominance, you know. I mean, that's

970
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: why I said so reality is not real. That's that's

971
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: just locker room talk ship when you when motherfucker's speaking

972
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, like yeah, man, don't I don't know

973
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: if it's gonna be a good thing. Boy. Man, you

974
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: see what he did in the finals, man, Man, we

975
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: might we might need to trade him. Man. Hey, I guess,

976
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: I guess when Lebron had that game six, they went

977
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: the crib eight. Hey, Lebron, you played well, c b

978
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: We couldn't have done this without you.

979
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: We could have done this without you.

980
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: Ron.

981
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 2: It's one of those things.

982
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: Man, It's just it's probably was that conversation after that

983
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: when when they lost to Dallas and them boys just

984
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: having conversations that summer. Yeah, yeah, that's all that was.

985
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: Draymond says Victor winmbin Yama. Winby doesn't deserve this defensive

986
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: Player of the year. Let's take a listen to what

987
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: dray had to say.

988
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 2: Play the sound.

989
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 4: He's currently second in odds to win Defensive Player of

990
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 4: the Year. Although I can't quite agree with that because

991
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 4: they have the twenty fourth best defense in the league. Now,

992
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 4: that's where you kind of get into like his team

993
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 4: is not that good. They're young and blah blah blah.

994
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 4: But what he's doing is incredible. But you just can't

995
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 4: move the line like that, like you're not allowed to

996
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 4: just because he's young and the team is bad. A

997
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 4: guy on the twenty fourth best defense in the league

998
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 4: can win Defensive Player of the Year.

999
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: I don't agree with that, Gil, what's your take.

1000
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 1: Listen, the ward is defensive Player of the year, the

1001
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: defensive team of the year.

1002
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is.

1003
00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: More important than Draymond was. When Draymond won Defensive Player

1004
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: of the Year. See Draymond was it was a five

1005
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: points difference when Draymond was on and off the floor,

1006
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: correct with is seven point four? Right, So his impact,

1007
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: he impacts the defense more than Draymond Green does. The

1008
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: problem with Winby is there's no other players that know

1009
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: how to play defense on his team, correct, right, not one.

1010
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: So when he's in the game, like as a as

1011
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: a team, they're twenty four. When he's in the game,

1012
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 1: defensively they're around what top five? Yes, when he's playing well,

1013
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: because you gotta remember he's only playing about twenty nine

1014
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: to thirty minutes, and I mean eighteen minutes he's not

1015
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: on the court.

1016
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, people are scoring.

1017
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Draymond, you had Iguadala, you had Klay Thompson, right,

1018
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: you had Gary Payton Jr. So when you was off

1019
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: the court, you still had a team defensively held it down. Offensively,

1020
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: they were a jaggannat team. Right, If you offensively have

1021
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: the best team. So when you're not in the game, offensively,

1022
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: they're just doing what they're doing. You got Hall of

1023
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: famers on your team to you in the top one,

1024
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: two or three, right, right.

1025
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 2: So he doesn't have that, So you can't.

1026
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: Pitolize him because he doesn't have KD. Turrylay team, right,

1027
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: that's not his fault as a player by himself. He

1028
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: is doing his job. So this is one of those

1029
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: things where you have to move the goal post. In

1030
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 1: fifty six games, he's averaging twenty points, ten rebounds, three assists,

1031
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: one steal, and lead the league in blocks. I think

1032
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: the last rookie to lead the league in blocks with

1033
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: the David Robinson if I'm not mistaken. Along with leading

1034
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: the league, along with leading the NBA and blocks per

1035
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: game and total blocks winbia's twelfth and rebounds fourteenth, and

1036
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: steels tenth, and defensive win shares and third in defensive rating.

1037
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's defensive player of the year.

1038
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: Yes, right there, that's what I said. So right now

1039
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: they're trying to put team success, yes, and this is

1040
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, like sometimes there is an anomaly,

1041
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: and he is that person that's coming into the league

1042
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 1: and defensively, he is the one person out there that's

1043
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: doing the job. It's no different than rebounding and rebounding totals,

1044
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: right right, If my team is last, but I got

1045
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm averaging twenty goddamn rebounds a game.

1046
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: You got to give me the award right.

1047
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 1: Draymond also later talked about Tatum deserving MVP when talking

1048
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: about team success and the MVP has has been something

1049
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: that we've talked about on First Take a lot lately.

1050
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: But here's the thing.

1051
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: Now, people always talk about, oh, he is the best

1052
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: player on the best team. But we looked at some

1053
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, I guess a lot of the voters, they

1054
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: go to second level and next level stats.

1055
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 2: Here it is in clutch time and clutch of players.

1056
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: That's taken at least forty five field goal attempts, Jason

1057
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: Tatum is fifteen or forty six. That's thirty two point

1058
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: six percent, and clutch time game within five points, last

1059
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: five minutes of the game, out of twenty five players.

1060
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 2: What do you think Jason Tatum rings last? I would say, I.

1061
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: Know, I know.

1062
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: I jumped the gun with the Jeffard I was smoking.

1063
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: I was about to throw out out ten last. He's

1064
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: then last.

1065
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: Sja Sga is one, Nicola Joki Joke is two. Who

1066
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: do you think is number three? Lebron Jameson James probably

1067
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: so the best player on the best team in clutch time,

1068
00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: last five minutes of the game, game within five points.

1069
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, okay, hold on that. Okay, that's.

1070
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: Last They was just on the splay last night. They

1071
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: had a two to two point lead, and against Cleveland

1072
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: last night, we just saw it on display. We just

1073
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: had to do it.

1074
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: But that can be deceiven two.

1075
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: You can't use that metrics in because their team is

1076
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: number one, and how many close games have they actually had?

1077
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: That's my bright all right, just because they're blowing teams out,

1078
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: just like when when Steph was doing it. Right, when

1079
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: Steph was winning and he won MVP, how what was

1080
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: his clutch rating? It wouldn't have been that high because

1081
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: he was never in the game for coach for clutch moments. No,

1082
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: but even but here's the thing, we're just taking. We're

1083
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: just taking players that have attempted at least forty five shots.

1084
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: So yes, they won a lot of games, but he

1085
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: fifteen or forty six? Okay, so clutch, So what is

1086
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: the clutch? What is the clutch metrics in the last

1087
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: five minutes of the game, game within five points? So

1088
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: we're just talking about that. That's all we're talking about, Gil.

1089
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: We ain't talking about no other time in the game.

1090
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,959
Speaker 2: That's it. Well, all right, so let me see last

1091
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: five minutes.

1092
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: So that'll be Shaye because he's gonna always have the ball, yep,

1093
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: the the Jokic. Right, of course, Lebron is gonna control

1094
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: all of that. I'm pretty sure he Jans.

1095
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: That's a who's who's.

1096
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: But that doesn't determin me from if he's gonna be

1097
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: a MVP or now. I I still have shd Yoki

1098
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: just tool I would go, I would go the other way.

1099
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 2: I would go Yoke one, shade two.

1100
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: I probably mean, Gil, I'll probably put Yannis at three. Well,

1101
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: kind heard the thing with Yannis. Yanni's seasons have been

1102
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: so I mean, he's averaging thirty.

1103
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: Given your twelve, give me your six.

1104
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: But you say, yeah, but he did that last year,

1105
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: and he did that the year before, and he did

1106
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 1: that the year before, So you get numb to him

1107
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: giving you thirty twelve and six. And then when you

1108
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: go back, and I mean, at once, some point in time,

1109
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,959
Speaker 1: we're gonna come back and look like, man, man, y'all

1110
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: just had like five seasons.

1111
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 2: He went thirty twelve and six.

1112
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think that's I think

1113
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: that's what happens, Gil, is that we get so accustomed

1114
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: to great players doing great things and they make it

1115
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: look so easy. What the hell if it was easy

1116
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: a lot of other people. I mean, you're talking about

1117
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: only a handful of guys. You're talking about a guy

1118
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: like a Wilt, a guy like a Kareem that's average,

1119
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: you know, thirty points, thirteen more rebounds.

1120
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 2: I mean Elgin Baylor.

1121
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: That only been a handful of guys that put up

1122
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: thirty those kinds of numbers.

1123
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So when you with the YO kids, right, yes,

1124
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: when he won the.

1125
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: MVP, he averaged twenty six ten and eight the second

1126
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 1: and twenty seven eight and damn near fourteen.

1127
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: Well he lost twenty four nine and eleven.

1128
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: This year he's averaging twenty six nine and twelve, right, Yeah,

1129
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: last year ever won This year, there's three. Why would

1130
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: he be one? Because they because last year if Joe,

1131
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question, if Joel Embiid doesn't

1132
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: go thirty four, ten and five, who is the MVP?

1133
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: Because Joel Embiid had such a historic season.

1134
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: I mean, we.

1135
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: Get we get, we get twittery, we get twittery, we

1136
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: get twenty six six and six. They grown trees. Yeah,

1137
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: Yo Kitch wins it. Yo Kitsch would have won it

1138
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: last year? Yes, right?

1139
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 2: So what so so from last year to this year?

1140
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: What he was number one last year, he's number three

1141
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: this year and his numbers are not really changing. So

1142
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: what what is the metrics of why he should be

1143
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: number one? He hasn't made no quantum leap to justify it.

1144
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: I think Jason Tatum is down in point first? What

1145
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: give me Jason Tatum's numbers? Shooting like he shot sixty

1146
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: three percent last year, he's shooting fifty seven. Goddamn.

1147
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. But Jason Tatum wouldn't be

1148
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: mind needed because.

1149
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,439
Speaker 1: This team was good. Right. That's why when I say

1150
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: I put Shaye, I put Shaye because everything he's doing

1151
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: the team is successful. He's averaging thirty one last year,

1152
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: he's averaging two point two steals, six assists, five rebounds.

1153
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: So for the most part, he's playing a lot better

1154
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: with the second youngest team. He wasn't expected to do this,

1155
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: So he's playing like a VP.

1156
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 2: Yokid just playing ye. I think the thing you see

1157
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 2: what we just talked about? Who did we just talking about? Yiannis?

1158
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: We've gotten so accustomed to twenty six, twelve and nine

1159
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: that you're a man, get out of here.

1160
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 2: That ain't nothing. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. But

1161
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 2: what is he doing? What?

1162
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: Like, what is he doing different? Like when we say,

1163
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: all right, he didn't win it. Last year he was

1164
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: ranked one, they won a championship. He's he's the defending champ.

1165
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: Is he playing like a defending champion? Is he just

1166
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: playing to his standards? That's the team, Like if his

1167
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: team was Boston, if his record was like Boston is

1168
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: hands down, yes, but his team is kind of worse

1169
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: than they were last year.

1170
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 2: And the guy that he's competing with is having an

1171
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: NDP number and his team is playing like champions.

1172
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: I think the biggest difference is is that we didn't

1173
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: have the expectations for OKC. So now if and so

1174
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: because of the expectation, but you can't, is yo, kid,

1175
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: because you set the bar so high and if you

1176
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: don't so if if if I'm the best high jumper

1177
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: and you set in the bar at seven eight and

1178
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: I've cleared the bar seven eight like seven times, and

1179
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, on this occasion I don't clear.

1180
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: You're like, well, yeah, you're not the best high jumper.

1181
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: Actually I am. You just had the bar so low

1182
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: for the other guys to get over it that they're

1183
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: still not clearing seven eight.

1184
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question. I like because

1185
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 2: I just think the.

1186
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: Thing is with what he does, what he's asked to do,

1187
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: and Jamal Murray has been out missed some games, and

1188
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: we know what that that's the best duo in basketball.

1189
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: And no shade to Tatum and Brown, no shade to

1190
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: Johannis and Dane or a d and and Bron, but

1191
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: that's the best dude in basketball. So a duo, he

1192
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: has help. Okay, Okay, I see where you're going. Yeah,

1193
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: he's a one man right now. Yeah, Williams. Williams is good.

1194
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: But I don't believe he's Jamal Murray. I don't believe

1195
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: he's a Jalen Brown. So I get I get what

1196
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: you're saying. I get what you're saying. Uh, Jason Tatum

1197
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: uh is twenty seven, eight and a half and five.

1198
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: Jokic is twenty six, twenty six, twelve and nine, SGA

1199
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: thirty one five and six. Giannis is thirty eleven and six.

1200
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 2: So like, I have.

1201
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: Tatum third right, he have aged thirty last year team

1202
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:41,959
Speaker 1: a second right, he's not doing I mean he's playing solid, right,

1203
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: he's playing He's playing.

1204
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 2: Andy added persingers. So you think like that, So I

1205
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 2: know you're not.

1206
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: I know your numbers is gonna go down, So we

1207
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: can't penalize you for that.

1208
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 2: Right If I guess if.

1209
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: They finished it, if they finished the season well, like

1210
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: let's say they finished on like a ten game winning

1211
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna take that in consideration. To be honest,

1212
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be at this point. Whoever wins it between

1213
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: them three, it's gonna go down how and be Yannis

1214
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: and Jokish went last year?

1215
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 2: Really gonna go down to that last.

1216
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: Week and who's bawling and who's winning, because right now

1217
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: all three really have a case. One has the record,

1218
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: one has you don't even think we're supposed to be here.

1219
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: The other one still has like I'm the champ, We're

1220
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: still in contingent, We're still the best team here.

1221
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 2: I'm still the best player in the league. What's the problem. Right.

1222
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: The Dallas Mavericks slumps to their third straight loss last night,

1223
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: losing one thirty to the Pacers. It's their fifth loss

1224
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: in last six games, but head coach Jason Kidds said

1225
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: it's not all doom and gloom. There's a lot of

1226
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: positive things happening out there. I can't tell you, as

1227
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: I said earlier, Rome wasn't building the day. Yeah, but

1228
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: they laid more than one break two thousand levels one

1229
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: building today, right, And so there are only a few

1230
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: of us in that locker room who's won at the

1231
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: highest level. And when when you look at the MAVs

1232
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: all post All Star break, there's one glaring issue. And

1233
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: it's not just after the All Star gate break. It's

1234
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: been a whole year.

1235
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 2: Defense they stink.

1236
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: Dallas have the one twenty six is the worst rating

1237
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: and defensive rating in the league. They've done well at

1238
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: the offensive end, ranks fourth, but still they give it

1239
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: up eight more points on the defensive end than their score.

1240
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: That's bad, so, but it's not so what what what

1241
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: do you see going on with the MAVs. I they're

1242
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: just they're just not Remember last year, right, last year

1243
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: when they got Kyrie over there, right, it took a

1244
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: real big nose die. I. You just can't have too

1245
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: bad defensive players on a team, right, You got two

1246
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: guys that really are liabilities, right that right there? It

1247
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: don't matter really who you got back there, it will

1248
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: help a little bit.

1249
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 2: But the fact that you got two guys.

1250
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: That one restless, so Bill Russell might help, I don't

1251
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: you'll think you're gonna help me that no, because it

1252
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:19,759
Speaker 1: be he be, he'll be he'll be in foul trouble

1253
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: because you're gonna have guys coming to the rim the

1254
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 1: whole the whole night, right, just like.

1255
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,799
Speaker 2: A A D and Lebron. Yeah, you guys are great defense.

1256
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: But if you got Monk and Fox coming in and

1257
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: some bonus coming in the whole time, you're gonna be

1258
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: in foul trouble, you're gonna give up points. And that's

1259
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 1: what it is. They're guys are blowing by them like

1260
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 1: like you know, they baby sitting in sitting.

1261
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 2: But but but here's the thing, yil.

1262
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: We we had this conversation on first on first take

1263
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: me Perk and steven A and I say, they don't

1264
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: play no defense, A man, don't nobody playing no defense?

1265
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: I say, but not to that level. I mean, you

1266
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: got I mean they can't even guard a guy with

1267
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: a part with the ooser in the park car. So

1268
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: how you so, how if you're giving up eight more

1269
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: points on the defensive end, then you're scoring on the

1270
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 1: offensive end.

1271
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, what am I missing? Y'all keep saying, don't

1272
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 2: nobody play no defense?

1273
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: Okay, let's just say, for the first the sake of argument,

1274
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,879
Speaker 1: the first forty plus minutes of the game, nobody plays defense.

1275
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 2: But what happened when it's in a nip tuck ball game?

1276
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,959
Speaker 1: They clutch time to last five one team getting layups

1277
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: and you got to launch threes late in the shot clock,

1278
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: or they come get the ball out of Kyrie's hand

1279
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: and they don't let Kyrie get to the paint, or

1280
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: they don't let Lucer get to the paint. Then what okay, y'all, miss,

1281
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: you're not a great rebounding team. Now they get the ball,

1282
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 1: they go down there, they get a lay up again,

1283
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 1: because y'all ain't got no remprotection. Yeah, yeah, I just

1284
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 1: think at this point that they they've they've built the

1285
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: team around Lucas offense and havn't protect defensively. And the

1286
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: problem with that is if they bringing guys that can

1287
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: play defense, you give as, there's gonna be a focal

1288
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: point on Luca and that's gonna be that's gonna take

1289
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: away the scoring, right, So you know, right, now they're

1290
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 1: probably trying to figure out what the best best scenario

1291
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: is to build this team around Luca. Right, I'm pretty sure.

1292
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that they're gonna go after more yeu

1293
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: Ro type players, guy, bigger guys that can uh protect

1294
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 1: the paint and rebound and still keep the floor spread

1295
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 1: for Luca to hit his to do Yet the only

1296
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: one that can do that is win. Me what other

1297
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: u ro guy that can protect the paint? How, They're

1298
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: gonna have to make some They're gonna have some. They're

1299
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: gonna have to make some trades. Come and go go

1300
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: around there and grab some of them guys, some marketings

1301
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 1: and some of those guys there that because they need height,

1302
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: They need height, and they need people to spread the floor.

1303
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: Still right now they're small trying to play guards. Well

1304
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: they better go. They better have some big tall America

1305
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,919
Speaker 1: to go over there and make with some European female

1306
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 1: and they could create something they can protect the plant

1307
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: because that's not what euro players are known for. I think,

1308
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think Porzing is kind of

1309
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: like him and Luca like clashing kind of messed up

1310
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: the the build of that team, right, because he.

1311
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 2: Has the height, he spreads the floor.

1312
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:30,520
Speaker 1: Yes, from get another like big Dad can like rimm

1313
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: rim run. Yeah. Right now you have this this great

1314
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: little combo. But right now you just have a bunch

1315
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 1: of guards that just that that can flat out shoot,

1316
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: but can't play it.

1317
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 2: You know, defense worth for nothing. Right, That's gonna be tough.

1318
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 2: That's gonna be tough because I don't know.

1319
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 1: They're real summer away, their real summer away of being.

1320
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: They got to be really aggressive or there. They're gonna

1321
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 1: be at least three years away.

1322
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 2: And Lucas gonna be with it just a sart machine

1323
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 2: with no with no winning.

1324
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,799
Speaker 1: What better up and get done because Luca neck contract.

1325
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 1: You can get eighty million a year. So and a

1326
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: whole lot of players you could put around a guy

1327
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: with one guy making eighty million a year. Yeah, hey

1328
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: they're billionaires around here. Yeah, but the cap and now

1329
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: they penalize you. You get that repeater. Now they penalized

1330
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: because they don't want they don't want that. They don't

1331
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 1: want you putting three. They don't want you doing what

1332
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: Golden State did. They're not gonna let you do what

1333
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: the Miami Heat did and put three.

1334
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:32,799
Speaker 2: Big guys together.

1335
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 1: Now, Grant granted the heat would have looked I mean,

1336
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: and both those situations, most of the guys took what three,

1337
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 1: four or five million dollars of year pay cuts? Yeah

1338
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, but at eighty million a year, most guys

1339
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 1: now ain't willing to take no pay cut.

1340
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 2: Those days are over. Then listen, listen all of that,

1341
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: all of that that that is it's fools gold.

1342
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: There's smoking mirrors, right, whatever you're putting in. These are

1343
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: owners trying to play monopoly when the same they all

1344
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: want to start with the same.

1345
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 2: Amount of money on the monopoly board.

1346
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: Right right, They're all gonna start fifteen hundred Yeah right,

1347
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: damn well, some of them already.

1348
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 2: Brought their own little money into the game.

1349
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: I know, I already got a couple of five hundred

1350
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: sash in the pocket.

1351
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 2: We go around about thirty minutes and I start buying, like, wait,

1352
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:28,839
Speaker 2: what happened?

1353
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 4: You know?

1354
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 1: How love bro?

1355
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 2: How you how you getting.

1356
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: That much money already started the game? She know, I

1357
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: ain't even gonna lock you. But that's how the NBA is.

1358
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: We're not We're not fair the same fair huh Right,

1359
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 1: So all these handicaps in if they want to gill

1360
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: how you gonna how you buying property and you've been

1361
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: in jail three times, and it is they take your

1362
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 1: after jail, do not fans go and do not collect

1363
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 1: you or the dollars. So how the hell you got

1364
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 1: You got thirty five hundred dollars right now and you

1365
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: don't been to jail three times. Hey, that's why you

1366
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: gotta be You gotta be strategic when you pull your

1367
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: money out of I started to get listen, I started

1368
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: the game with about at least nine hundred extrah have urson.

1369
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna out the gate. I started cheating

1370
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: from the beginning. Yeah yeah, I guess when we start

1371
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: the game, yeah like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

1372
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: you got a hey yeah we got let me see,

1373
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: let me see your pocket, because he ain't no way

1374
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: you done have been in jail the three times you rolled,

1375
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: You went to jail.

1376
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 2: And now all of a sudden, you Brian park Place,

1377
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:41,440
Speaker 2: You Brian boardwalk?

1378
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 1: Wait what? Uh? And and I'm this type of cheating

1379
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: board boardwalk It ain't even in the cards. I done

1380
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: took that out. Ain't nobody laying on that, not from

1381
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: the car. I done took that out already.

1382
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 2: I don't take it out.

1383
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: We ain't gonna have.

1384
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 2: We ain't gonna have you.

1385
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: Just hitting the chance and then thinking you're about to

1386
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 1: go get the ball. No no, no, no, no, no no,

1387
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 1: it's not that The board is is if you get

1388
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 1: both of them, that's what we're bankrupty. Or if you

1389
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 1: get like all the if you get like if you

1390
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: can line up all the properties, all the oranges, all

1391
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: the blue, all the green. Now obviously it's harder in

1392
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: that corner. But man, you mess around to get or

1393
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 1: the waterworks or something like that, and you gotta pay

1394
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 1: double or yeah, hey, you gonta start with age.

1395
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 2: I'm telling my secrets. Man, my kids probably watching the kids.

1396
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 2: You cheat all the time. I already know, because that's

1397
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 2: you're telling them.

1398
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: When he was young, I said, y'all to in cahoots,

1399
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: and they tell me, Daddy, what cahoos me? I said,

1400
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 1: y'all too conspiring against me. He laying on your property.

1401
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: You don't charge it, I land, I gotta pay full price. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh,

1402
01:15:56,479 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 1: y'all swap it. Okay, you got one section it over here.

1403
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, I gotta come. You trade

1404
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 1: that trade those properties at less than value just so

1405
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: he got the whole corner, and I gotta land on it.

1406
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 2: I said, man, y'all.

1407
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 1: You gotta put you sometimes listen, I even do this.

1408
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: When you land on it, we gotta bid for it.

1409
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 1: It ain't automatically yours. Oh yeah, hell, doc, I look,

1410
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:29,719
Speaker 1: I make up all color rules.

1411
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 2: When you whatever you land on, we gotta we gotta.

1412
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: Bid on it. They automatically yours.

1413
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 2: So you just go to bedding. Oh hell, I landed that.

1414
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 2: We got that extra nine hundred when you got that.

1415
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 1: See come in there and you gotta go beround the

1416
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 1: board once because you can't buy to start rolling the

1417
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 1: dice and said, okay, I landed land on board walk.

1418
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 2: I gotta know, bro, you got to go around the board.

1419
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 2: Depends on it depends.

1420
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: It depends on where here is on another depends an

1421
01:16:58,880 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 1: adult diaper.

1422
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 2: That's what depends. But I don't know that what you're

1423
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 2: talking about, you about the pie.

1424
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 1: You can't just start rolling the dice and start buying

1425
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 1: property as you roll the dice out the gate.

1426
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: My kids go to public school. They can't read that

1427
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 2: damn good reading it. They ain't reading instructions. Uh, they're

1428
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 2: not reading it. Sus like that I think. Hey, I'm

1429
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 2: the bank.

1430
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 1: Uh well see that's first affordable. You never gonna be

1431
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: the bank because I already know not. No, come on,

1432
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 1: someone gotta keep it shroll of the money man.

1433
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 2: I'm either the bank or I'm the property manager.

1434
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,600
Speaker 1: When did you, Hey, I'll buy something and if you

1435
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: ain't looking, I done took my money back.

1436
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 2: I ain't put it in the bank.

1437
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 1: Yes see I do that.

1438
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 6: I do that.

1439
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, see I do that. See I knew you. I

1440
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 2: knew you did something. I knew that yesterday.

1441
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: Zion was asked whether he sees himself taking part in

1442
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 1: the Dunk Contest in the future. He said, I've got

1443
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 1: to do my part, make the All Star Game. If

1444
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: I'm an All Star, I'll do the Dunk contest if

1445
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: I'm in. If I'm not, I'm not doing it. Zion

1446
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: has made the made the All Star Game for the

1447
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,759
Speaker 1: first time in twenty twenty one, in his second season.

1448
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 1: He was also an All Star Game last year, but

1449
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 1: skipped the game because of a hamstring injury. What would

1450
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 1: be your what's your dream? You talk about pasting president,

1451
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: We do a pasting president. What would be your dream?

1452
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: Let's just say thissh moving forward. So twenty twenty five,

1453
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,879
Speaker 1: what would be your dream All Star Game dunk contest?

1454
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: I would have Zion, I will have Jah Jalen Green,

1455
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,759
Speaker 1: a man, Anthony Edwards.

1456
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 2: Well, is it only four now?

1457
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: Or how many they get?

1458
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 2: Four? And then I'll do I'll do Zach Lavine if

1459
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 2: he's healthy. You can only have we damn how many

1460
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 2: guys you want to come up? Well, you got it?

1461
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 2: You gotta now Okay, okay, how about this? We have five?

1462
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 1: Because what we gotta have? You can't have a guy

1463
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 1: that won the dunk contest the past two years? Knock,

1464
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: Then you got McClung.

1465
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: Shit.

1466
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't to be I wouldn't even put one of

1467
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: those topics back in. I wouldn't be mad at that

1468
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: you because I got dunkers and I got named, right,

1469
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 1: I got dunkers and names. They should go they should

1470
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: go back to six to eight on like four. Well,

1471
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: the reason why they started going to six d eight

1472
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: because the guys were missing like five dunks. So that

1473
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 1: was thirty miss dunks. So the God Dunk Contest was

1474
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: taking as long as an NBA game.

1475
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,600
Speaker 2: Hey, you listen, it's just like it's just like the

1476
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 2: three point contest, either.

1477
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 1: You own or not.

1478
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 2: You missed the dunk, your add next next, right, and

1479
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 2: that's just that's just the facts of it. Yeah, but

1480
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: that was that was that was the problem.

1481
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,679
Speaker 1: Gil. Guys were missing so many dunks before they got one.

1482
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: Guys were missing five, six, seven times. But that bro

1483
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: you miss a dunk after you miss it the first time, broke, Hey,

1484
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: don't sit down. But I said you, this is the

1485
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 1: dunk contest. You like, you have to be on. We

1486
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: have to make up the rule for the guys who

1487
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: wanted the Vince Carter mixed dunks. No, even when spud

1488
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: when when he won, he didn't miss a dunk, right,

1489
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 1: it was it was it was one of it was

1490
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: destined for him, right.

1491
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 2: So it's one of those things where you put eight

1492
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 2: people in. Hey, you missed your dunk. Goddamn it, it

1493
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 2: just wasn't your.

1494
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: Time right next, Yeah, but a hundred dunks. I was like, nah,

1495
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm good on that situation. And I guess it looked

1496
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 1: like with the way Collin sext and dunked the ball

1497
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: after the buzzer, he might need to be in the

1498
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 1: dunk contest, right.

1499
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 2: You seeing that? Like, wait a minute, brother, you you

1500
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 2: like the government, hold on you.

1501
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: Let me go ahead and put your name right here.

1502
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 2: You got an automatic invite. Yeah, we gotta, we gotta

1503
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 2: keep an eye on you.

1504
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 1: But uh Zion said he would enter if he makes

1505
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 1: the All Star Game and if he's healthy. Hopefully he's healthy,

1506
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: because I like to see I like to see him

1507
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 1: do it. But see, he strikes me as a power dunker.

1508
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: He's more of a Dominique Wilkins type dunker, not like

1509
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 1: an Aaron Gord or Zach Levine creative. Uh Vince Carter.

1510
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 1: Vince Carter was one of the few that was a

1511
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 1: creative power dunker. He's still dunk with a lot of

1512
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: authority even though he had creativity with it. I mean, okay,

1513
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 1: we got a he got the he got the wind

1514
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: meal between the legs, he got the three sixty wind meal.

1515
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: He can probably, he can probably, and he can dunk

1516
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: with his left. He could jump with his left and

1517
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 1: his right the same height.

1518
01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 2: Who that, Vince? They got the same like j R.

1519
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 1: Smith right where they had a forty forty four off

1520
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: the left and off the right right, which is rare.

1521
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: Right like that, that is a rare that those are

1522
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 1: rarity players who can jump off the left, the right

1523
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 1: and bowl, so Zion.

1524
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 2: Can jump off of it like if you see him.

1525
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes he came down with the right like Lebron and

1526
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 1: his switches to the other side. He's one of those

1527
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 1: guys who got dual he got dual power where he

1528
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 1: can get creative. But see, the question is can't he

1529
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: jump off one because a lot of times, like Zach

1530
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 1: Levine is what we call a one foot dunker, yeah,

1531
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: Dominique is more what we call a two foot dunker.

1532
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: So it'd be interesting Aaron Gordon man for him to

1533
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: do some of the dunks that he did and not

1534
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: to win the contest. Man, I just hate it because

1535
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: that was that was great. So in other words, when

1536
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon and Zach Levine was going, it was pretty good.

1537
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 1: So Lebron didn't kill the dunk contest huh No, oh okay,

1538
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: I'm just making sure. It's just one of those things, man,

1539
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 1: where we wish we got to see it.

1540
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 2: That's all. That's it.

1541
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 1: It's just it's just fantasy. We wish we got to see,

1542
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, him in the dunk contest. What I had

1543
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 1: had this crush on the girl in tied grade. I

1544
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: would show wish I could have saw naked. I didn't,

1545
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: but I turned out okay. Anyway, you know what I'm saying.

1546
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: And you didn't see Lebron in the dunk contest, you okay,

1547
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 1: you saw some great dunk contest. You got an opportunity

1548
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 1: to see Zach Levine and Aaron Gordon go at it.

1549
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: I mean mac McClung.

1550
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 2: The dunk that he's.

1551
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: Doing at his size, that's a impressing. And besides, we

1552
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 1: only had one other white guy there but win the

1553
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 1: dunk contest. Hell, I don't think to be had about

1554
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 1: two decent of it, Brett Barry and Matt mccluk.

1555
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 2: Can you remember anybody any other white guys that entered.

1556
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 1: It? Says done?

1557
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:05,520
Speaker 2: Oh?

1558
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 1: No, I think Tom Chambers and Tom Chambers into the

1559
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: dunk contest. Tom and dunk back in like eighty eight

1560
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:18,839
Speaker 1: man Tom Dominique. Huh, I would have been Jordan of Dominique.

1561
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: Then no, I ain't say win, I said, entered, oh

1562
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: your hands. Yeah, Tom Chambers had some ups who did

1563
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:26,719
Speaker 1: he dunk on with both put both feet?

1564
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 2: I hope that Mark. I don't know.

1565
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: I think it might have been Mark Jackson when he

1566
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 1: dunked the ball with both heads and had both.

1567
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 2: His knees on Mark's head. I don't with that who

1568
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,440
Speaker 2: he was Rick, Ricky Rich Chapman.

1569
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: Right right?

1570
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 4: Yo?

1571
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1572
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: Oh?

1573
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 2: Rex and uh and and bird Man did it too,

1574
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 2: Bobby Sarah about five. Thought they'd been about five or six.

1575
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 2: And they're just scrimbling in it a little bit.

1576
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: Paul Pierce compares the Knicks to Instagram models with too

1577
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: many filters we discussing their recent success. The Niggas are

1578
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: like Instagram models. I'll be on Instagram and I'd be like,

1579
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 1: damn you fine. Then you catch them in person, You're

1580
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: like this, you too many filters. KG said, it's two

1581
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 1: different things, reality versus digital. So what about watching on

1582
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: TV there, Pierce say, it's an Instagram model that you

1583
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: got a fashion Ova.

1584
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 2: They got that fashion Ovo. It said.

1585
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: The current Nigs team won't make it past the first

1586
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 1: round against the heat or the Pacers. What's your what's

1587
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 1: your thought of what? Paul Pierce said? No, okay, I don't.

1588
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't.

1589
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna make it past the heat

1590
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: of court.

1591
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: The Pacers they have a better chance because that game

1592
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: will be slow and Pacers don't have a go to guy.

1593
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: So when you get put in that high quarter and

1594
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 1: you need to get buckets at the end of the game,

1595
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 1: New York has a Brunson, you have a and then

1596
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,600
Speaker 1: you do have Julius Randall who can get it going to.

1597
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: The Pacers don't have.

1598
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 2: That guy, right. It's like when the Suns make the playoff.

1599
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 2: When the Sun's back in my era is making the playoffs.

1600
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: They're great up and down down team. But when you

1601
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 1: need to get a bucket in the last five minutes,

1602
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 1: who are gonna go to?

1603
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 2: They don't have that guy, right. They gotta they gotta.

1604
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: Work their offense and try to get a good shot

1605
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 1: versus giving him down.

1606
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 2: To a guy and he's making all those plays. So

1607
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 2: I disagree with They.

1608
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 1: Won't make it out of the first round if they

1609
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 1: played Indiana, if they played Miami or any other team

1610
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: they can They can.

1611
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 2: Beat halves in the first round. So there's on there's

1612
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 2: a few teams that they can beat in the first round.

1613
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, you better rebound because Indiana they looking

1614
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 1: to make or miss, They're looking to push the ball.

1615
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: They'll take it out of the net and push it

1616
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: or they'll take it out they'll take off running.

1617
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 2: If you miss it, it doesn't matter.

1618
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 1: Miss free throws, made free throws, made baskets, miss baskets,

1619
01:26:58,479 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: it does not matter.

1620
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 2: They're looking to push the pace.

1621
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: You can't do that in the playoffs. Though it's hard

1622
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: that it's harder in the playoffs. It's just harder. The

1623
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: games tighter. Everyone's watching everything, so something like that, Like

1624
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: on the offensive rebound, they'll just deny, Like it'd be

1625
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 1: one of those things where we're gonna deny the first

1626
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: pass so the ball couldn't get up the court just

1627
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: to make him catch.

1628
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 2: In front of us, not on the run.

1629
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: Like so with like Jason Kidd, he wants to he

1630
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 1: wants to loop out and catch on the run, which

1631
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: somebody be sitting on both sides to make sure he

1632
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 1: doesn't do that, which slows it down a little bit,

1633
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 1: or no one offensive rebounds in the first half and

1634
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,640
Speaker 1: we just all five get back, right, That's when strategy

1635
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 1: really kicks in and you're trying not to give up easy,

1636
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:52,719
Speaker 1: easy things in that open court because you want everybody

1637
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: to just really play half court basketball and let the

1638
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 1: offense work.

1639
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 6: Right.

1640
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 2: Well, that'd be interesting.

1641
01:27:58,400 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 4: I like that.

1642
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 1: That was a greater allergy Instagram model. You know you're like, Damn,

1643
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: she's fine. You catch them in person like.

1644
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 2: This, you bucks, that's Doc Rippers right there, old catfish.

1645
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 1: Ass Uh. It's time for last last segment of the

1646
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:22,839
Speaker 1: night Gill is called Q and A, so let's hopefully

1647
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: we got sound ash. Yeah, hey, upgrade Kate. Oh at Nightcap,

1648
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 1: just order that bottle of La Portier. I have two

1649
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 1: og bottles out of the twenty five thousand I don't

1650
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 1: want to open. I'll keep you updated when I receive it.

1651
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: One love, Bro, I appreciate the support. You've been one

1652
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,799
Speaker 1: of our guys that that that tune in the Nightcap

1653
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 1: from the very beginning. So it's all love. So I

1654
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 1: greatly greatly appreciate that. David Bell said, shout out to

1655
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 1: Shannon and Guil. Glad you interviewed Steve stout Man, who

1656
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: was responsible for a lot of things and and artists

1657
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 1: in hip hop crazy and.

1658
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,719
Speaker 2: Seeing you and Queen's Bridge and with Jungle and Wiz

1659
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 2: and the story. It was crazy to me.

1660
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 1: Because obviously I had interviewed Metal World Peace, I had

1661
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 1: interviews Mike Tyson, so I had heard about it. And

1662
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 1: when when Steve's like okay. We went to his office

1663
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 1: and so I thought that was it. He said, naw,

1664
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to Queens. I said, Queens where dary Queen?

1665
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:27,560
Speaker 1: I said, I don't want to.

1666
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 2: I'm good.

1667
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 1: You know, I'm going back to the hotel and I

1668
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 1: don't need to know. Now we're going, I say, huh.

1669
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 1: And so I was like, yo, out fit costs more

1670
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 1: than mine. So they're gonna hit you over your head first.

1671
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 1: I'll need Hey, I got repaired hips, but I still could.

1672
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 2: Not run you. So I'm good. I was good Gil.

1673
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 2: So it was it was.

1674
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 1: It was great and like they were explaining, so I

1675
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 1: was like, man, man, we're going here, we're going to

1676
01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 1: meet It's like we're going to meet Jungle. I was

1677
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: like they called his place, said nah, it's a dude.

1678
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 1: So he didn't tell me he was. He didn't really

1679
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:07,560
Speaker 1: fill me in. He was just saying, we go and

1680
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, blah blah blah, Mann tell you how how

1681
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 1: how I got nas and so forth and so on.

1682
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 1: So when we go out there, so we pulling up,

1683
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 1: so we got the with the guys, got the whimen's

1684
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 1: house and people, man, that's un man, hey aren't getting

1685
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 1: the bridge. Man, don't get I like, let me roll

1686
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 1: this day by y'all. Blow yeah, y'all ghost to be bad,

1687
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 1: you blow up by cover.

1688
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 2: So it was all good. So we got out and

1689
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 2: so we walking. He's like, hey, he.

1690
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 1: Introduce himself saying, man, I'm Jungle. Dudes like I'm Whiz,

1691
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,560
Speaker 1: and so you know, I'm talking. I'm like, okay, and

1692
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 1: and so I'm asking him, say, okay, explain the story.

1693
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 2: How you know.

1694
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 1: Steve came over here and say, man, we were sitting

1695
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 1: kind of like right where we are right now, and

1696
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 1: this car pulls up and it stops, and I'm like,

1697
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 1: I ain't recognize him.

1698
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody really recognize him at first?

1699
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 1: And like the fips wasn't so like a fence right there,

1700
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 1: and he's like and and Steve was like, okay, we

1701
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 1: got I got in a car. He's like, well, this

1702
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 1: thing is say, Noah, the fist wasn't here, and he

1703
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 1: said he started walking through the grass.

1704
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 2: So I guess that's a no note.

1705
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 1: But anyway, so Jungle said, I was sitting up. I

1706
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 1: was sitting up on top of the bench. And so

1707
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 1: as he got ride and started talking, I.

1708
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 2: Had to.

1709
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 1: Got the bag from up out of the bench and

1710
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: so by the time I get ready, I grabbed that iron.

1711
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 2: Wiz said, noah, Man, this the dude that made the

1712
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 2: beast for Biggie. Oh he cool, he said, uh. Jungle said, hey,

1713
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 2: if Wiz had to say it that that that that

1714
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:41,640
Speaker 2: that that that that that.

1715
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 4: So it was it was.

1716
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 2: It was great.

1717
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 1: And then we hit hit nods up on the phone

1718
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: and you know, uncle man, you in the bridge, man,

1719
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 1: But it was great.

1720
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 2: I like going in the field.

1721
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: Look I like sitting down on the couch, but I

1722
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 1: like going, you know, going on the road and and

1723
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:00,679
Speaker 1: and seeing guys like I did the p with Phil

1724
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 1: he who's a seven time missed Olympia. Gotta work out

1725
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 1: with him. So I kind of like going in the field.

1726
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,720
Speaker 1: But it was really cool. And it was cold that

1727
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 1: day too. It was cold that day. And I looked

1728
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 1: and the thing with people like man, man, un got old, man,

1729
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 1: Look what un got old. We shot that earlier, Okay,

1730
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 1: we didn't release it to try to refute anything. I'm

1731
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 1: gonna wear what I'm gonna wear. I like wearing Alo,

1732
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 1: I like wearing Lulu Limma. That's what I'm gonna wear.

1733
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 1: But in this situation, man, it was cold in New York. Man,

1734
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 1: you see, I have my hands in my damn pockets

1735
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 1: at that time of the night.

1736
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 2: It was cold.

1737
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 1: It was in December. Old Look, where was that, Jordan?

1738
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 1: It was in December. So we taped that in December.

1739
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 1: Y'all know, y'all know what the weather is in New York. Hell,

1740
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 1: if you live in New York, you know, damn well

1741
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:51,560
Speaker 1: if even if you live in the United States, you

1742
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 1: know what the damn weather is in New York in December.

1743
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not listen. I'm off for the field.

1744
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm never going no place where I feel scared. If

1745
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 1: I feel scared, I'm not getting out of the car.

1746
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 1: I don't get it.

1747
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 2: Could be like doing giving our presents. I don't care

1748
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 2: what it is. I'm not getting out of the car.

1749
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:22,679
Speaker 2: So you already know. I go to Beverly Hills, Santa Monica.

1750
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 1: I go downtown some places.

1751
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:29,600
Speaker 2: Other than that, my GPS just don't go certain locations.

1752
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 1: Right.

1753
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:33,719
Speaker 2: My car stops where I got. I'm getting a Tesla,

1754
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 2: and I'm a programmer.

1755
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 1: Hey when when it gets passed, Hey something all that

1756
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 1: turnaround take me back home.

1757
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:42,720
Speaker 2: I think the thing is.

1758
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 1: Give a lot of times where you go to where

1759
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 1: you carry yourself. The number one currency in any hood

1760
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:51,720
Speaker 1: is respect. When you take your ass and that and

1761
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 1: wherever you wherever you are, don't you take your ass

1762
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 1: in there all of a sudden, Oh, I'm better than

1763
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 1: you because I got this. The one thing I've noticed,

1764
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 1: and I've been a lot of different places, and that

1765
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 1: I give everybody respect. I show respect. They're gonna give

1766
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:06,719
Speaker 1: you respect.

1767
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 2: They know who you are.

1768
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 1: Now some people don't say, I don't give an e

1769
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 1: f who you are. Don't run that through here. So

1770
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 1: I went in there a but A. I always do

1771
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 1: this gear every time I meet somebody. How you doing, bro,

1772
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 1: Shanna Shark? Man, Oh we know who you are? Nah,

1773
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 1: But I'm not arrogant enough to believe everybody does. So

1774
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Man, Hey, somebody this is might say, hey,

1775
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm Shannon Shark. So I go places that I'm not

1776
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:37,600
Speaker 1: familiar with. That's how I carried myself. I'm not you know,

1777
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 1: obviously I wouldn't. I wouldn't go there because I don't

1778
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 1: really know anybody in that area. So I in that neighborhood,

1779
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 1: so I don't have any reason to go there, and

1780
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 1: so I remember when back in the eighties, I had

1781
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 1: a cousin he.

1782
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 2: Dating his chick.

1783
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 1: Bro, I ain't had been to Chicago since nineteen seventy.

1784
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:01,800
Speaker 1: It's nineteen eighty nine, Bro, Me and Cabrini Green. I

1785
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 1: never I had never been there.

1786
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 2: I know what it is. I'm like, Bro, what the hell?

1787
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 4: Bro?

1788
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 1: Hey? I understand you know you got a chick over

1789
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 1: here and you want to see her. But why she

1790
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 1: couldn't come to where we are or you know you

1791
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 1: pay you pay for a cab or something to come

1792
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 1: pick up. Bro, you got me over here. I don't

1793
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 1: know nobody over here. But that's what I've learned, is

1794
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 1: that A they know I'm out of place. Hey, but

1795
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 1: I give everybody respect, and that's what you have to

1796
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 1: do when you go there, Gill. A lot of times

1797
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:37,640
Speaker 1: people make the mistake they think because of who they

1798
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 1: are and what they have. Man, some of them ninjas

1799
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:42,600
Speaker 1: don't give a damn about that.

1800
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 2: Oh no, they don't. That's why I wait. You walking in,

1801
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 2: I pht my pockets inside out to show Z road.

1802
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 2: Do you know I got nothing on me, not a

1803
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:55,959
Speaker 2: dollar insight?

1804
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 1: Oh? But when I was when I was in college, Gil,

1805
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 1: I was on the West Side. I'm on thirty seven

1806
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 1: the bull. I'm all over there. I'm cool, Hey, but

1807
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 1: I know how to conduct myself. It ain't all that

1808
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 1: that hey man, I'm man nah nah, but that's the

1809
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 1: way you have to conduct yourself. Gil, You and you

1810
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:19,719
Speaker 1: in their environment. You coming at the effect. You better

1811
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 1: than nah.

1812
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 2: Bro.

1813
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 1: They Hey, they're chopping down and you understand that. Give

1814
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 1: them their respect. I don't care what he does or

1815
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 1: who he is. Hey, I go to the Barbershoppice on

1816
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 1: the other side of town. Hey, when I was in Denver,

1817
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 1: the barbershop. I give people the respect.

1818
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 2: Man.

1819
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 1: That's that's how you got to conduct it. I can't

1820
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 1: feel scared. If I feel scared, I'm not going. I

1821
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 1: ain't scared. You just you just give people that respect. Gil,

1822
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 1: That's all you got to problem. I won't even go

1823
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 1: to the game if I feel scared, if I go

1824
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 1: to there, if I listen, you think I'm gonna go

1825
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 1: to the Laker Detroit game with Stuart like I'm good?

1826
01:36:57,600 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 2: He oh he rad that's the one that's right to

1827
01:36:59,920 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 2: He ran up on the dude from Phoenix, right.

1828
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 1: You see what they did to this boy. Poetis no

1829
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 1: that's another NBA player. Let alone me. He's crazy as hell.

1830
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 2: That's one game I want me going to just in

1831
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 2: case I parking here in the parking lot.

1832
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 1: Hey, Gil, you know, look, go ahead and say look here, man, Hey,

1833
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: that ain't mean it like that. Bro, Let's go ahead

1834
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 1: and squash this bro, drap that thing up. And I

1835
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 1: didn't mean like that.

1836
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 2: He just can't read. And now you can't can't read

1837
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 2: uh rapt because I said that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,

1838
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 2: you should have said that.

1839
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 1: Hey, doctor Frankie Bellam and said, hey, uncle Gil, your

1840
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:41,640
Speaker 1: eyes were on higher learning the streets and clean. They

1841
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:43,680
Speaker 1: were battling back and forth, and you're like you were

1842
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 1: watching the tennis match. You had the paranoid to just Joe,

1843
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 1: I love you. Nah. I was cool because once they

1844
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 1: told me who he was and what I was good. Hey,

1845
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 1: I know, wasn't nobody gonna run up on us.

1846
01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 2: His name is Jungle, that's what they call it. Yeah, yeah,

1847
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 2: it sounds rough, It sounds rough.

1848
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 1: It sounds rough.

1849
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1850
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1851
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 2: As soon as he said he my name is Joungover

1852
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 2: and I'm out, I'm.

1853
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 1: Nah noa, I'm glad we had him because that. I mean,

1854
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 1: you know, he carried that level of respect. I mean,

1855
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 1: you go, I mean, you go to certain blocks you

1856
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 1: need to be you know, you need to have somebody

1857
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 1: to carry that level of respect. So they're like, oh

1858
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 1: nah he good, ah man, not sharp he good man.

1859
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 1: May you I'm good once they tell you you good,

1860
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 1: you good. But you have to Hey, when you and

1861
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:41,639
Speaker 1: other people's house, how do you act? You don't put

1862
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:42,639
Speaker 1: your feet up on stuff.

1863
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 2: You don't. You acted cordally. You you in somebody else's

1864
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 2: own you acted quarterly? Makes sense?

1865
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 1: Hey, Marshahn Hunderson, good, good, early morning, Shane Gail. Gail

1866
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,480
Speaker 1: from the East side of Detroit. But it was the neighborhood.

1867
01:38:57,560 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 1: I dared not go on the West side of Detroit

1868
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 1: or I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, we're I kept

1869
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 1: that thing on me.

1870
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, most most people. Most people do. That's

1871
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 2: the one thing about the hood.

1872
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:16,720
Speaker 1: Everybody got that damn yeah, because where I go, where

1873
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:18,839
Speaker 1: I go get my where I go get my haircut

1874
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 1: at in Atlanta, I think it. I think Bernard Forrester,

1875
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 1: the one that got shot, dude tried to jack him.

1876
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 1: He chased the guy. You know, dude open up on him.

1877
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 1: But my barber there was a store across the street

1878
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,800
Speaker 1: that had you know street had uh like T shirts

1879
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and somebody robbed the joint and

1880
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 1: so they saw it and my barber was chasing him.

1881
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 2: Dude turn around and said, bro, this ain't your stuff.

1882
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 1: You're right, man, you right, you right? Hey, I ain't

1883
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 1: chasing nothing. I ain't chasing nothing. Ain't mine. You were

1884
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 1: just running behind somebody and that's not your stuff.

1885
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 2: Where do you do that at. That's the same thing

1886
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 2: when I used to steal when I was a little.

1887
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 1: Right, you're stealing out of the store and they trying.

1888
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:15,080
Speaker 2: To check this ain't chores. You just worked there.

1889
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 1: I'm giving up everything. I'm not fighting for nothing about Hey.

1890
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I might take them to

1891
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 1: the safe in the back. How soon can I get

1892
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 1: you up out of hey? Man, get out of the car. Hey,

1893
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 1: look at bro. Hey.

1894
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 2: As a matter of.

1895
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 1: Fact, I only got a half a tank, so I'm

1896
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 1: gonna make sure you get your food full of sup Hey,

1897
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 1: I got one hundred dollars for you. Get the far

1898
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 1: away from me if you possibly can. I ain't fight

1899
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 1: for I ain't fighting for nothing in our age. Hey,

1900
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:45,760
Speaker 1: some of the people in this chat right now, look

1901
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:49,639
Speaker 1: you you work at rows or any place again, just hey,

1902
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 1: it ain't your sun. You still get it checked. No

1903
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 1: matter what exactly, these people get in and get out.

1904
01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 1: They got shit to do to this. Say job still

1905
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 1: from you? Yeah, hey, do a like I said, Dude,

1906
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 1: ran up on me at the payphone. Dude, say you

1907
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 1: know what it is? I said, But man, I ain't

1908
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:10,639
Speaker 1: got nothing on me. Everything I got in my car

1909
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 1: in the sight. Man, say Sean, I said, yeah, Man,

1910
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:16,600
Speaker 1: he said, man, you are you no better? Payphone on

1911
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 1: the web side?

1912
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 2: Man, you was going to payphone. I was on the payphone.

1913
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:22,559
Speaker 2: That was in the nineties. You know what I'm saying.

1914
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 2: I ain't have no My brother made me cut my

1915
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 2: cell phone off. Gil Man.

1916
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 1: You know back well, see you didn't have no cell phone.

1917
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 1: But back then cell phone. My cell phone was roaming

1918
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 1: because I had a three or three area code. So

1919
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 1: now we're talking about three four dollars a minute. That

1920
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 1: was before. That was before the after seven was free

1921
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,600
Speaker 1: and the weekends were free. Stuff like that. Man, the

1922
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:44,439
Speaker 1: thing was high. Brother said, hey, man, turn that thing off.

1923
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:44,920
Speaker 2: Damn.

1924
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 1: So now you know that was before GPS you could.

1925
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, she said, well, I live

1926
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 1: over here. I'm on such and such, such and such.

1927
01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:54,560
Speaker 1: I said, okay, a man, I'm a mister around like

1928
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 1: damn Allen got lost. And I said, hey, matter of fact,

1929
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:00,200
Speaker 1: pull up Oho thirty seven the bull posha. I got

1930
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 1: to go over there all the time, give him a car.

1931
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 1: Watched sometime. I just cover there and just shoot the fact.

1932
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 1: So I was like, man, you know I played for

1933
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 1: him right here, I do the thing. Dude, run up

1934
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 1: on me.

1935
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:11,640
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what it is? I ain't uh what

1936
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 2: you mean?

1937
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:14,640
Speaker 1: I know what is it? Hey? Bro?

1938
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 2: Everything I got my walls in the side of my

1939
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 2: man know that? Uh, well, you gotta pull up the omniac.

1940
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 1: Uh.

1941
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 2: I knew what it was. I ain't that.

1942
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 1: Hey, I ain't.

1943
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 2: I ain't that dumb. I know enough. He saying, you

1944
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:35,600
Speaker 2: know what it is?

1945
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 4: I know what it is.

1946
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:38,840
Speaker 1: Hey, get it, bro, I ain't got nothing. Everything is

1947
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 1: IULD have told. I could have said, I ain't got nothing.

1948
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 1: What I'm supposed say? I ain't give you nothing, bunk.

1949
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 2: I never been in no situation.

1950
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna lie to you. Hey, put are

1951
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:52,840
Speaker 1: the thing? Do give I mean, look, somebody, look, they

1952
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 1: see you pull up. I'll be I've been fortunate, you know,

1953
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:58,559
Speaker 1: I mind my business and like I say, now people

1954
01:42:58,680 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 1: kind of recognize who I am.

1955
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 2: But I mean, I have not I was wrong here.

1956
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 2: It is ten o'clock, ten thirty at night. I got

1957
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:08,559
Speaker 2: an SSL. I jumped out the pay phone, the car

1958
01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 2: door open. Hell he could have just.

1959
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 1: Hell, he could have just jumped in the car and

1960
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 1: had the wallet and everything, because at that point in time,

1961
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 1: I had the wallet in the side of my in

1962
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 1: the SSL. Then you know, had a little thing in

1963
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,640
Speaker 1: the side, so I had my wallet down there. But

1964
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 1: I ain't really never I hadn't had carried a wallet

1965
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:26,759
Speaker 1: in my back pocket probably since high school.

1966
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 2: You know, I have you know, have like a little

1967
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 2: money clip.

1968
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 1: You said, yeah, the keys in the car.

1969
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, the car was running.

1970
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 1: I didn't have no driver's license. Go he probably had

1971
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 1: he gonna take that. Well, he probably was thinking. He

1972
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 1: probably was thinking SSL. Look, I had won the nicest car.

1973
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:45,759
Speaker 1: From the time I was like a senior in college,

1974
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 1: I had one of the nicest cars in Savannah. I

1975
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 1: had a Mercedes in college. Then I had my brother

1976
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,679
Speaker 1: bought me a Z when I was a sophomore in college.

1977
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:55,680
Speaker 1: So I've always had a nice car, and for the

1978
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 1: most part, they kind of knew who I was, especially

1979
01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 1: when I got had the all white, peanut butter level

1980
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 1: Mercedes three out.

1981
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 2: Of these, you know, I be I'm all over the city.

1982
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:06,840
Speaker 2: Did you know.

1983
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 1: I've all over the city? But uh but that's how

1984
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:16,640
Speaker 1: I get let it look. Obviously, certain places you don't go.

1985
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:20,679
Speaker 1: Uh But I think if the way you carry yourself,

1986
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 1: you can't think you can't thank you better than them

1987
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 1: because you have God THEMN. Like I said, in that area,

1988
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 1: your number one currency is respect. Give them theirs. For

1989
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 1: the most part, they'll give you yours. And I note

1990
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 1: that if I ever ever in a situation of being

1991
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 1: in the hood, Lebron would never get a statue with

1992
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 1: the Lakers. He's not Kobe. Kobe is not the only

1993
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 1: one that has a statue. But anyway, he won that

1994
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 1: Disney ring with the Lakers. That should have uh ring,

1995
01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 1: The Lakers should have resigned. How's that Lebron's fault which

1996
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 1: resign resigned month the Lakers could only play. Lakers could

1997
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 1: only pay him six million. The Kings could give him

1998
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:10,719
Speaker 1: two years at about nineteen million.

1999
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:11,800
Speaker 2: You do the math.

2000
01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:15,760
Speaker 1: Are you resigning one year for six million or you

2001
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:17,799
Speaker 1: going two years and almost nineteen?

2002
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 2: Tell me what you're gonna do. They can afford them.

2003
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 1: That's what that is. I don't know why people just think, Oh,

2004
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:31,160
Speaker 1: people make decisions all the time. They go to the

2005
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 1: highest bidder, but they expect Apple. Think about it. You

2006
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:38,680
Speaker 1: got a job. Okay, there's Google and Apple. Google want

2007
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:40,840
Speaker 1: to play you one fifty. Apple want to pay you

2008
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 1: one seventy five. Save hours, probably go you know what,

2009
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:48,240
Speaker 1: probably get more favorable hours, which.

2010
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:51,680
Speaker 2: One you take it? People are people outside of.

2011
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 1: The sports always most not always, I don't want to

2012
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 1: say always, it for for the most part, you're gonna

2013
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 1: take the job that are for you the most money.

2014
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 1: Why do people expect athletes to always take less money

2015
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:08,759
Speaker 1: because we're supposed to We're supposed to care about winning

2016
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:09,559
Speaker 1: more than money.

2017
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 2: Somehow, Yeah, I made mm hmmm.

2018
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:17,720
Speaker 1: We'd like for you to take a pay cut so

2019
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 1: we can give a healing an hr damn helling in hr.

2020
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 1: Y'all better find that money. Y'all better take that money

2021
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:26,799
Speaker 1: from Peter in the county, cause shdon for Shaton shade

2022
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 1: that Jenadan talent ain't taking no pay cut. Yeah yeah,

2023
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:38,120
Speaker 1: uh Cyon Johnson saying Broun with a sad team and

2024
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 1: scaring the playoffs in his prime. Jordan with a sad

2025
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 1: team not getting over five hundred, but Jordan is a killer.

2026
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 2: How's that? What's your take? Gil?

2027
01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 1: So what did you say? He said, Bron with a

2028
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:52,759
Speaker 1: sad team is scaring the playoffs in his prime, Jordan

2029
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 1: with a sad team not getting over five hundred, but

2030
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:56,639
Speaker 1: Jordan is a killer.

2031
01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:57,439
Speaker 2: How's that?

2032
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 1: With a sad yeah, he said With Jordan, he said,

2033
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 1: Bron with a sad team team that's not very good.

2034
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 1: He was scary in the playoffs in his prime. Jordan

2035
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:10,679
Speaker 1: with a sad team team not very good, not getting

2036
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 1: over five hundred. But Jordan is a killer. How's that?

2037
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 2: He said? The comparison m hm, I.

2038
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 1: Mean Jordan was a Jordan was.

2039
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 2: Jordan was like okay, if you know baseball, Jordan.

2040
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 1: Was Barry Bonds a rod right, he was for self

2041
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:35,759
Speaker 1: and had to turn into a team guy. Right. Lebron

2042
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 1: is a team guy, right, who we want to turn

2043
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 1: into a self guy? Right? And I think that's the problem.

2044
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 1: Like he is Derek Jeter, He's trying to do everything right. Right,

2045
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 1: he's the oldish he is, you know, he that's the

2046
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:55,680
Speaker 1: type of person he is. He's trying to build with

2047
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 1: the people he had. Jordan is like, well, I don't

2048
01:47:59,880 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 1: like this guy, give me a new and I don't

2049
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 1: like this, get me a new and and then when

2050
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 1: he sees fit, like okay, this is a good team,

2051
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 1: then he was sacrificed, right, You know Lebron is sacrificing

2052
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 1: to try to make the guys.

2053
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:12,840
Speaker 2: He has around him, you know.

2054
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 1: So it's just two different people, right, He's more like

2055
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 1: Lebron is more magic magic Johnson and that's his that's

2056
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:28,160
Speaker 1: where his brain is, right.

2057
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 2: Uh, Kobe is Michael Jordan, he's the killer. Yes, he's

2058
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 2: the assassin.

2059
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 1: You know those mindsets or are a rarity in its

2060
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:44,559
Speaker 1: own also, right, Right, it's harder to find It's easier

2061
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 1: to find lebron type of minds, right, guys who are

2062
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:56,760
Speaker 1: team right, we're gonna build together, versus someone who does

2063
01:48:56,920 --> 01:49:01,640
Speaker 1: not hear about life itself. He don't care feelings, He

2064
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 1: don't care either you're gonna come work and follow me

2065
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 1: or you just die doing what It's harder to find

2066
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 1: pure assassins like that, right, So you can't compare people

2067
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:17,720
Speaker 1: to Michael Jordan and Kobe, right, because that's it, right,

2068
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan and Kobe.

2069
01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:22,600
Speaker 2: And maybe Alan Iverson.

2070
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 1: All right.

2071
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:26,720
Speaker 2: Other than that, you don't find that brain. That brain

2072
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:27,839
Speaker 2: is hard to find.

2073
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 1: That's why mama mentality is it? When we say the

2074
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:34,719
Speaker 1: closest thing to Jordan, you're not talking about the closest

2075
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 1: thing to Michael Jordan's skill level and how his talent was.

2076
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 2: You're talking about just the menality itself.

2077
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 1: The duplication of someone who can go out there shoot

2078
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 1: a hundred thoughts and look at you and say, yeah,

2079
01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot one hundred more. I don't care what

2080
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 1: you think, don't care about your feelings. They don't care

2081
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 1: if you cry. My job is to do this, neutralize

2082
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 1: the opponent. And that's what I'm gonna do.

2083
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:05,920
Speaker 2: Like it or not. H Greg King uncan Yale teams.

2084
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 1: Team should show Dennis Robins rebounding footage to improve rebounding.

2085
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 1: What do y'all think, Well, Dennis Robin had to rebound

2086
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:16,640
Speaker 1: or you wasn't gonna be in the league. I mean

2087
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:18,800
Speaker 1: the guy, the guy scored zero points and have twenty

2088
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 1: five rebounds. I mean Dennis Robin didn't probably average.

2089
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 2: What do what you think? He averagedes average point wise

2090
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:25,960
Speaker 2: six eight points a game.

2091
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 1: Something I ain't even like his. But that's what I

2092
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 1: said about Darvin Ham. Sometimes you got to give a

2093
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:35,560
Speaker 1: guy a job and say do this job and do

2094
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:38,160
Speaker 1: it well so you can stay on the floor. And

2095
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:41,720
Speaker 1: that was Dennis Robin right going there. Rebound. That's all

2096
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 1: I need you for. If you get two points, congratulations,

2097
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 1: but I need twenty rebounds out of you. Wold said,

2098
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 1: who wins a starting five, six seven and under or

2099
01:50:56,479 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 1: starting five, six eight and over?

2100
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 2: It all depends who six sembers of guys are. Who

2101
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 2: the six eight guys are?

2102
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 1: Yes? Are we talking about lebron kd Yeah, yeah, Joe

2103
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 1: and stuff? Yeah yeah, I got a question for you.

2104
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 2: Yes, Why is the.

2105
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:22,120
Speaker 1: Forty yard dash running straight so important in football? If

2106
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 1: you never do that in a game, you don't because

2107
01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 1: the only time there there's only one route that you

2108
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 1: try to get up a full speed, and that's a

2109
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 1: goal ball, and they only they only run what maybe

2110
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 1: one two of those games. I don't understand it either,

2111
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:40,720
Speaker 1: because most of the stuff is like give me the

2112
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 1: first ten, give me the short shuttle. A lot a

2113
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 1: lot of the testing gild is that like when we

2114
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:48,240
Speaker 1: watch when I watch a tape, when I watch a

2115
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 1: guy and then I go see him to the combine,

2116
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:54,640
Speaker 1: I want the combine to offer confirmation for what I

2117
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:58,080
Speaker 1: saw on tape. If a guy looks explosive, I want

2118
01:51:58,120 --> 01:51:59,680
Speaker 1: him to see him jump high. I want to see

2119
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:02,639
Speaker 1: him up far. If a guy looks quick, I'm looking

2120
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:04,599
Speaker 1: at a short shuttle, I'm looking at his first ten

2121
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:08,640
Speaker 1: because I want I want all I'm doing. The combine

2122
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 1: should confirm what you see on tape because the first

2123
01:52:12,920 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 1: and obviously I got to do my homework on your spaces.

2124
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:18,880
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna take you in the first, the first

2125
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 1: couple of rounds, I got to do my homework. I

2126
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 1: need to know, Okay, what type of guy is this guy?

2127
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:26,320
Speaker 1: How much time does he spit out? Is he study?

2128
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 1: Is he a good teammate? You know, blah blah blah.

2129
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:35,800
Speaker 1: But combine should offer confirmation for what you saw on tape.

2130
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 1: And a lot of times where guys make mistakes is

2131
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:42,600
Speaker 1: that they don't take the tape, they take the combine.

2132
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 1: You see Tom Brady did what he did in college

2133
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:47,320
Speaker 1: when they saw him run that ugly forty and they

2134
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:49,240
Speaker 1: saw the little the stuff that he did. They said,

2135
01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 1: well he himself around, he a six round pick. What

2136
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:56,040
Speaker 1: did the tape show you? He did that at Michigan

2137
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 1: when he got in the game, he did that. Some

2138
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 1: of it was coming a lot of us come from behind.

2139
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:02,320
Speaker 2: He did that.

2140
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 1: Okay, we don't like, we don't want to believe what

2141
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:10,760
Speaker 1: our eyes what our eyes tell us. And I talked

2142
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 1: to Odds, who I think is one of the great

2143
01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:14,799
Speaker 1: gms of this time. You know, he drafted ray Lewis,

2144
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:20,240
Speaker 1: Jonathan Ogden ed Reed Suggs, Lamar Jackson. Five guys right there,

2145
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 1: going to the Hall of Fame, Marshall Yandy offensive guard.

2146
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:25,559
Speaker 1: He probably gonna end up in the Hall of Fame.

2147
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 1: But like Ozzi, why, I mean, how were you able

2148
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 1: to hitdle these guys? He said, Boy, I believe with

2149
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:34,880
Speaker 1: my eyes. Tell me when I cut that tape on,

2150
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:41,040
Speaker 1: he said, Terot Suggs with the Arizona State, he said,

2151
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 1: Suggs read like a four eight forty nine on a

2152
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 1: track with tights and track spikes. He said, But somebody

2153
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:52,639
Speaker 1: sacked that quarterback twenty two times to senior the season.

2154
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:56,479
Speaker 1: Nobody did that unless he had somebody to fill it

2155
01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:00,840
Speaker 1: in for it. He did that, Suggs could been in

2156
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 1: the corner. Suggs get off, so they downed. He valued

2157
01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:09,720
Speaker 1: what he had saw on tape. Look like I said,

2158
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 1: you want the combine to offer your confirmation. But you

2159
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 1: don't play in shorts, you don't play in t shirt.

2160
01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 1: You're playing pads, you're playing cleats, and you play against

2161
01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 1: another man because we played the only sport. Gil, you're

2162
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 1: trying to move another man against his will. Yeah, Gil,

2163
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 1: go in the house, Nah, going to house, Gill, Nah,

2164
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:37,080
Speaker 1: make me. That's what we're trying to do. A man

2165
01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 1: will put his hand in the dirt and says, I'm

2166
01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 1: going there now. Hell, you're not not through me. You're

2167
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 1: not a guy lives up outside. I got to get

2168
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:46,480
Speaker 1: from point eight, not against me.

2169
01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 2: You're not.

2170
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 1: So that's the thing where people, I think guys make

2171
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes talent evaluators because they're based so

2172
01:54:56,000 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 1: much on the combine and they disregard what saw on tape.

2173
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 2: Man, if a guy.

2174
01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:04,720
Speaker 1: Played flow, I'm like, hold on, guy ran four two,

2175
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 1: but he played like he running for six. I need

2176
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 1: to know why, bro, why you just ran that time?

2177
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:13,600
Speaker 1: But this guy is running for six covering you. So

2178
01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:14,480
Speaker 1: I ain't add up.

2179
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 2: You see, that's what.

2180
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 1: That's what.

2181
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 2: When I was looking, I was like, why it's so

2182
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:21,800
Speaker 2: excited that he has the fastest time. How does that

2183
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:25,600
Speaker 2: translate to him in the game. So it was like

2184
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,640
Speaker 2: I said something stupid, No, because here's the thing.

2185
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 1: There have been very few fast guys that can play

2186
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 1: fast because to be able to control that speed. You see,

2187
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:39,880
Speaker 1: if you go one hundred miles an hour, it's gonna

2188
01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:43,480
Speaker 1: take you longer to stop than something traveling at fifty

2189
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 1: miles an hour. Tyreek Hill is unique because Tyreek is explosive,

2190
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 1: but he can suddenly stop. That's what makes him so

2191
01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:56,520
Speaker 1: dangerous because he could. He's not just the gadget guy.

2192
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:58,920
Speaker 1: He's just not a nine guy, a go ball guy.

2193
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:01,800
Speaker 1: He can run around, he runs smoke, he run out,

2194
01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:04,240
Speaker 1: he run comeback her a dig, run, an end cut, run,

2195
01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:04,640
Speaker 1: a slam.

2196
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 2: He can do all that. Now when he gets stop

2197
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 2: ball in his hand, now.

2198
01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:13,760
Speaker 1: You say bad who I'm glad we got him because

2199
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 1: he read that four two ninety. Yeah, he's one of

2200
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:21,440
Speaker 1: the few guys that I've seen that has track speed

2201
01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 1: with a football body. Most of the football guys that's

2202
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean most of the track guys, they have a

2203
01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:30,640
Speaker 1: track body like Sam. I was in the league with

2204
01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 1: Sam Graddy, who won the silver medal in the eighty

2205
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:37,120
Speaker 1: four Olympics on the relay team, Willie Gaul, James Jet

2206
01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:42,080
Speaker 1: that fin framed guys. You look at Tyreek, he's compact,

2207
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:47,280
Speaker 1: he's muscular. He's a football player that actually have track speed.

2208
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 1: Most track guys.

2209
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 2: Then I built like that. Okay, okay, so I wasn't.

2210
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 2: I wasn't. Don't.

2211
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:58,400
Speaker 1: Four k T said, Oh, ranked's in order in which

2212
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:02,120
Speaker 1: you love you need to put loved e d not

2213
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 1: love to eat. I would go squirrel one, raccoon two, rabbit, three,

2214
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:11,880
Speaker 1: turtle four as pets.

2215
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 2: No to eat, No, damn, I would take a raccoon

2216
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:28,400
Speaker 2: right now? What yeah?

2217
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 1: I didn't hearing this on there. Oh yeah, yeah, I

2218
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:38,560
Speaker 1: can get a rabbit, you know, I don't matter, rabbit,

2219
01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:40,880
Speaker 1: little turtle, you know, throw a little pellus in there

2220
01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:42,880
Speaker 1: said to eat.

2221
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 2: But they say those again.

2222
01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 1: He wanted me to rank which was the order which

2223
01:57:49,960 --> 01:57:53,560
Speaker 1: I would love to eat first, raccoon, squirrel, rabbit, turtle.

2224
01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:56,120
Speaker 1: I was told him I would go squirrel one. I

2225
01:57:56,160 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 1: would go raccoon two, rabbit, three turtle four. Okay, I'm

2226
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:02,920
Speaker 1: gonna go.

2227
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 2: Chicken chicken one turkey, beau eight three fish folk.

2228
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 1: That's me. I've never even seen a store that would

2229
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:20,480
Speaker 1: serve any of those folk that you just named. We're gonna,

2230
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 1: hey you, we ain't gonna ah, man, you ain't had

2231
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:25,840
Speaker 1: no fried squirrel squirrel of rice.

2232
01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:27,400
Speaker 4: No.

2233
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:29,960
Speaker 2: I seen a rat the other day grab one of

2234
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 2: those from under Like in New York.

2235
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 1: He grabbed a rat.

2236
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:36,080
Speaker 2: There was another rat that grabbed one under the trash can.

2237
01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:37,840
Speaker 2: Oh he was dead. One that was dead, wasn't he?

2238
01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:39,720
Speaker 1: Was it dead?

2239
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:40,840
Speaker 2: It was dead?

2240
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:41,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2241
01:58:41,800 --> 01:58:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeahs rat rests nasty. They're terrible, you said.

2242
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 1: Okay, look, I know you, I know you lived in

2243
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 1: the woods for most of your life, but you don't

2244
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 1: supposed to eat the ship that's out there.

2245
01:58:53,560 --> 01:58:56,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah you do. I mean what hey see, there

2246
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:58,320
Speaker 2: was no chicken. I mean, look, we ate chicken.

2247
01:58:58,360 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 1: But the only time we ever got chicken until I

2248
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 1: got to college, or the only time we got fried

2249
01:59:04,240 --> 01:59:07,920
Speaker 1: chicken at home is on Sunday. Every Sunday. We ate

2250
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:10,160
Speaker 1: fried chicken as long as I can remember. You know,

2251
01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 1: my mom said that's what they ate when they were

2252
01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:14,480
Speaker 1: growing up. They had fried chicken, but we never got

2253
01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:18,000
Speaker 1: chicken and pieces. My grandma would buy the whole chicken too,

2254
01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 1: hold chicken, cut it up. She was fried or my

2255
01:59:21,320 --> 01:59:23,840
Speaker 1: sister my aunt's now for fried the chicken. That's how

2256
01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:26,400
Speaker 1: we did it. We ate everything. We ate the next

2257
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:28,880
Speaker 1: We ate the backs. You know, you ate every part

2258
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:31,280
Speaker 1: on the chicken except the last part. In the first

2259
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:33,280
Speaker 1: part they got on the fence, the beakon the butt,

2260
01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:35,720
Speaker 1: that's the only thing. But sometimes you ate the butt

2261
01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:37,360
Speaker 1: because that's the little fatty part. You ever had the

2262
01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:38,040
Speaker 1: butt of the chicken.

2263
01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:38,880
Speaker 2: You never had that.

2264
01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 1: The chicken wings, chicken.

2265
01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 4: Ate.

2266
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:45,400
Speaker 1: You ain't getting all those good pieces. You out your

2267
01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:47,320
Speaker 1: damn mind. You think you about to get all the

2268
01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:47,920
Speaker 1: good pieces.

2269
01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 2: I was a single child.

2270
01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:58,160
Speaker 1: Okay, nah, we got like my grandfather got got he

2271
01:59:58,240 --> 02:00:02,280
Speaker 1: got obviously. You go get the breast, a short thigh,

2272
02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:04,360
Speaker 1: something like that. You can get a short thigh in

2273
02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:07,920
Speaker 1: the back. You can get a drumstick in a wing.

2274
02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:11,920
Speaker 2: The bone chicken. Yeah, the bone.

2275
02:00:13,480 --> 02:00:17,400
Speaker 1: You you would gladly eat it, but you won't as

2276
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:19,200
Speaker 1: the kid yet up and beat on that you got

2277
02:00:19,240 --> 02:00:23,760
Speaker 1: the I mean you ain't never had no chicken, man.

2278
02:00:26,160 --> 02:00:28,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what fish with the head on it too,

2279
02:00:28,640 --> 02:00:28,880
Speaker 1: don't you.

2280
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:29,680
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no.

2281
02:00:29,800 --> 02:00:31,600
Speaker 1: I need to I need to head off. But I

2282
02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:33,880
Speaker 1: don't eat fish. I need know the fish need to

2283
02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:36,000
Speaker 1: be flaid. I can't eat no fish with the bone

2284
02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:36,200
Speaker 1: in it.

2285
02:00:36,520 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 2: Man.

2286
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:39,000
Speaker 1: I got choked one time. Man, I ain't damn there

2287
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:40,480
Speaker 1: a whole loaf of bread trying to get that bone

2288
02:00:40,480 --> 02:00:42,040
Speaker 1: out of my throast. Say God, if you get this

2289
02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 1: bone out of my throat, I promise you ain't put

2290
02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:47,200
Speaker 1: no damn more fish in my mouth, especially if he

2291
02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:48,240
Speaker 1: ain't been debone.

2292
02:00:49,080 --> 02:00:51,480
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so you ain't that on sonny, What did

2293
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:52,360
Speaker 2: you eat Monday dough?

2294
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:53,040
Speaker 1: Saturday? Though?

2295
02:00:53,680 --> 02:00:55,320
Speaker 2: H squirrel? Rabbit?

2296
02:00:56,040 --> 02:01:00,400
Speaker 1: Uh? We ate like some mother fried chicken? Seem like

2297
02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:03,200
Speaker 1: whatever you didn't eat on Sunday. My grandma asd some

2298
02:01:03,280 --> 02:01:05,360
Speaker 1: flying water. Then it was gonna be smother fried. So

2299
02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:07,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna eat all that ChIL It was gone. It

2300
02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:09,800
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna like you go. My grandma cooked some meat

2301
02:01:10,240 --> 02:01:12,240
Speaker 1: and then you didn't eat all that, and then she cooked.

2302
02:01:12,040 --> 02:01:12,560
Speaker 2: Some more meat.

2303
02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:16,600
Speaker 1: No, hell, nah, you ate everything, and once that was gone,

2304
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:21,840
Speaker 1: they cooked something else. So you know, rice feeds most

2305
02:01:21,880 --> 02:01:23,560
Speaker 1: of the time. I mean, I ain't really like, I

2306
02:01:23,600 --> 02:01:27,160
Speaker 1: ain't like vegetables. So me and my brother eating cereal.

2307
02:01:27,400 --> 02:01:30,120
Speaker 1: She's like, okay, y'all know y'all been eat up all

2308
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:32,840
Speaker 1: that said for Saturday, you ain't gonna have nothing to eat?

2309
02:01:33,480 --> 02:01:38,200
Speaker 2: So wait, hold on, is it legal to eat rabbit

2310
02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:39,000
Speaker 2: and stuff like this?

2311
02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:39,480
Speaker 4: Well?

2312
02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:45,920
Speaker 2: Did you eat? You eat quail? You eat dove? Dug

2313
02:01:47,120 --> 02:01:54,760
Speaker 2: dove the bird? Yeah? Oh nah, yeah, no, I can

2314
02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:55,760
Speaker 2: see why you're not married.

2315
02:01:57,240 --> 02:01:57,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2316
02:01:58,520 --> 02:02:01,240
Speaker 2: Now I don't eat it now. Oh okay, I got

2317
02:02:01,320 --> 02:02:03,920
Speaker 2: ain't no woman cooking that ship for you. No nothing, No,

2318
02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:05,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't let nobody.

2319
02:02:05,600 --> 02:02:07,960
Speaker 1: Huh. Yeah, I eat quail. Ash brought me some quail

2320
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:13,320
Speaker 1: from home. Yeah, quail right now? Fried quail? That's if

2321
02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:16,880
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't quill eggs. No, I eat quail the

2322
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:23,480
Speaker 1: bird fried. Hey, Like a lot of times, like when

2323
02:02:23,480 --> 02:02:26,160
Speaker 1: I was, like when I lived in Savannah, probably like

2324
02:02:26,240 --> 02:02:28,120
Speaker 1: once a month I went to this place I call

2325
02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:29,720
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Man.

2326
02:02:29,760 --> 02:02:32,800
Speaker 2: They had the best quail and grips. I still rock

2327
02:02:32,840 --> 02:02:37,400
Speaker 2: with it right now. The only the only meat I

2328
02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:39,000
Speaker 2: eat side and chicken is duck.

2329
02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:44,200
Speaker 1: That was good. No, we had you don't eat duck. Yeah,

2330
02:02:44,200 --> 02:02:47,200
Speaker 1: I've beating up dark meat. But I yeah, I eat

2331
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:57,680
Speaker 1: dunp my duck, chicken, quail, dove, squirrel, turtle, raccoon. Obviously

2332
02:02:57,800 --> 02:03:00,320
Speaker 1: you eat all everything on the pig. Dang nothing that

2333
02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:01,640
Speaker 1: you don't eat on the pig. The only thing you

2334
02:03:01,640 --> 02:03:02,920
Speaker 1: don't eat on the pig is a squeal.

2335
02:03:05,720 --> 02:03:05,840
Speaker 2: Yo.

2336
02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, the head you had the head and ears you

2337
02:03:08,520 --> 02:03:14,640
Speaker 1: ain't had no bigger sandwich, figger sandwich ear. Yeah, the

2338
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:17,640
Speaker 1: ear pig got ears. You kill the hog, you cut

2339
02:03:17,680 --> 02:03:20,400
Speaker 1: the ears off, you eat and bell and stew them.

2340
02:03:20,920 --> 02:03:22,280
Speaker 1: They have the biggest samphi.

2341
02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:23,640
Speaker 2: With mustard, just bacon.

2342
02:03:24,280 --> 02:03:27,160
Speaker 1: No, hell no, pig, I know you ain't had no pigtails.

2343
02:03:29,840 --> 02:03:32,880
Speaker 1: Then we put pigtails and greens. Hey, I know people

2344
02:03:32,920 --> 02:03:33,360
Speaker 1: in this chat.

2345
02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:37,880
Speaker 2: I had to pickle eggs or the devil eggs. No,

2346
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:40,960
Speaker 2: the pickle is pickle, right, it's like pink. Oh you

2347
02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:44,440
Speaker 2: to my pig feet. No, hell no, there was. They

2348
02:03:44,480 --> 02:03:46,880
Speaker 2: had another yard next to the like growing up. They

2349
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Speaker 2: had they had the one that had to hoof it

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Speaker 2: on with the vinegar.

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Speaker 1: So you had the eggs with the vinegar in them,

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Speaker 1: with the open the vinegar. Yeah yeah, yeah, the moost exacted. No,

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Speaker 1: but you could eat everything on the pig. You eat

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Speaker 1: you know you eat make hoghead cheese, you make you

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Speaker 1: know you obviously you eat the snout.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, cow tongue, you had no cow tongue. No, you

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Speaker 2: eat no oxtail?

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Speaker 1: No, no, this man here? What where do you find that?

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Speaker 2: You could find oxtail in the grocery store next? Oh?

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Speaker 1: No, no, yeah, man, they used to have this, uh

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Speaker 1: this place, but never called it buck corn. What's the ihorn?

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Speaker 1: But they used to have you had you name you

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Speaker 1: name a meat. They had it like they had beer.

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Speaker 1: They'd have yak. Yeah, anything.

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Speaker 2: Gator.

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Speaker 1: You haven't had any alligator? You know you gotta you're

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Speaker 1: no alligators in collige. Yeah yeah, see we ate mind

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Speaker 1: noisters mound, noisters, which is the testacles of a cow

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Speaker 1: or a hog. You know what's gonna happen? Huh. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go.

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Speaker 2: What I'm come doing after this, I'm write down all

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Speaker 2: the mees and then I'm gonna go to Peter and.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, you might need to check Shanna Sharp

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Speaker 1: House Maron. But now they got they got a farmer's

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Speaker 1: market in uh in Georgia on Beaufford. I think it's

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Speaker 1: on Beauford Highway. I think that's where it is. But

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Speaker 1: they got they got the ducks hanging up, they got

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Speaker 1: all kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: You name me. They got rabbit, they got you name

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Speaker 2: a meat, they got it. Okay, Yeah, I've never yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I watched rush Hour, so I seen, you know, like

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Speaker 2: meat hanging in the alley.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was a bye yeah about. I was

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Speaker 1: just looks like, you know, hey, let you hang it

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Speaker 1: up here. No, hey, chat, let me ask you some question.

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Speaker 1: Is Brussels sprouts and after times. I had a meeting

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Speaker 1: today and this, uh, I ain't gonna call the name,

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02:06:06,920 --> 02:06:09,280
Speaker 1: but she ordered. She's like they asked for advertisers, so

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Speaker 1: you know, we got to spinish depth. She said, let

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Speaker 1: me get the Brussels sprouts. Brussel sprouts ain't no damn appetizer.

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Speaker 2: I had a girl who ordered that for dinner.

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Speaker 1: That was just what she wanted to eat. Let me

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Speaker 1: just brussel sprouts. So it was, uh, that's called gas

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Speaker 1: me oh, y'all. Only I don't mess with brussel sprouts.

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Speaker 1: I drew. I was it was like twenty ten when

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Speaker 1: I was in Orlando and I was going through my

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Speaker 1: juice diets and I threw the Brussels sprouts in and

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Speaker 1: that was the worst guys I've ever had. So I

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Speaker 1: ain't never eat a Brussels spout since.

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Speaker 2: See that's me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I still away from stuff that might cause because

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Speaker 1: I already know my stomach apples. Like when I'm on

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Speaker 1: the road, I don't eat no apples. I don only

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Speaker 1: eat apples at my house. Yeah. Yeah, it's just certain things.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know why they keep putting them in

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Speaker 2: my room.

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Speaker 1: Man, they man, they had them after day I'm like

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Speaker 1: five or six, I'm like, bro, I'm not eating these.

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Speaker 2: I'm about to get on the plane and go home.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, seventy So I'm gonna give her a

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Speaker 1: call tomorrow let her know that seventy four percent said

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Speaker 1: Brussels sprouts is not an appetiser, but that's what she

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Speaker 1: wanted for an appetizer. Thank you, Thank you for joining

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Speaker 1: Oh it was a fly, Yeah you know your boy?

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Speaker 2: Keep that thing. It was nice. What is this? Oh?

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Speaker 2: They made seven thousand pair of this six see it here?

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Speaker 1: Five right? Yeah, six thousand, seven hundred and.

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Speaker 2: Six thousand, seven hundred and thirty nine out of seven

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Speaker 2: thousand pair. I got him? Oh hat he hain't no

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Speaker 2: my key.

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Speaker 1: Wildcat Legend with wisdom. The man once dropped sixty points

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Speaker 1: and a pair of it sounds good, so we're gonna

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Speaker 1: you for joining us, bro, I appreciate it. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next Wednesday. I'll see you guys tomorrow night with

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Speaker 1: Ocho out.

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Speaker 2: Sure,