1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Did you turn that ringer off? I did, yeah, ring 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: ring Rain. How you doing there, Bud? I'm good? How 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: are you? I'm good. We're still doing a zoom, not 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: because Chip has COVID, but because our schedules today we're 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: really insane and we leave tomorrow to go on a 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: bachelortte party. Did you think you were like I thought 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: I was done with bachelortte parties at this age. This 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: is my first one. Yeah, I think it's my first 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: batchel borette party. Yeah, pretty sure it is. Yeah, Chipping 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: the Ladies. Yeah, actually supposed to be last year. It 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: was supposed to be last year, but obviously COVID sidelined 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: everything and there was another guy that was invited them, 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: but he's not coming this time, so I'm why did 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: he get I don't know why Fancy is not coming? 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Fancy was supposed to be he was girls 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, so I'm holding down the fort for the dudes. Well, 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: our friend is getting married in October and we are 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: doing a quick little beach weekend, which were really excited 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: about what we're put back next week. Our friend of 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: Lees is wild, so only God knows what's going to happen. 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: This week. It's gonna take me like two weeks to recover, 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: but it's no big deal. Uh. In other news, what 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: is your update for the week. What's been going on? Well, 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm really excited. UM. You know, there's a there's a 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: organization you're called on Site, which is UM sort of 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: a mental health recovery facility for lack of a better term, 27 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: UM where they do, like, I mean, I think I've 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: never been, but I think they do like varying lengths 29 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: of mental health programs ranging from like anger management to 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: addiction issues to just like sort of mental resets that 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, range from like three nights to like a 32 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: month or something like that. UM and UM Music Cares, 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: which is an organization, a nonprofit organization that the arm 34 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: it's a nonprofit arm of like the Grammys and Nera's. 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: And they sent out an email UM offering a program 36 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: to music industry people that were like coping with just 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: like the effects of uh COVID and a lot like 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: last year and a half. And I thought, Wow, this 39 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: is an amazing opportunity to like experience on site like 40 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: get a reset, And so I applied for it and 41 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: I got in and it's a scholarship program. So it's free. Yeah, 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: it's covered by music Hare, so I'm going to be 43 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: doing that. That's amazing. When you told me that, I 44 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: was like so proud initially because I think that kind 45 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: of work is very overwhelming. Maybe is the right word 46 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: to think about, Like we can know, Okay, maybe my 47 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: soule needs something right now, or maybe there's something I 48 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: can be working through, but it can be so intimidating. 49 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: I haven't done on site, but I've done two different 50 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: intensives at places like that, and both times, I mean, 51 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: it was one of the most life changing experiences I've 52 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: ever had, just the stuff you learned about yourself in general, 53 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: or you know why kind of some of the mindsets 54 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: you've developed have developed within you or anything like that. 55 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: But it's yeah, but I'm like, I'm like nervous as 56 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: hell and excited because it's you know, it's group therapy. 57 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: So it's like, I have no idea who it's coming 58 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: to be with. I don't know my roommate's going to be. 59 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: They could all be strangers, they could all be people 60 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: that I know, like, so it's like, you know, I'm 61 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: also like incredibly open and willing and ready to like 62 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: go be as vulnerable as possible and just experience it, 63 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: because the truth is, it's been forever since I've done 64 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: any sort of therapy, so I know I need it, 65 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: but it's like when you've gone this long without it, 66 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: like it's really hard to jump start. So I'm like, 67 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: I might as well just jump into the deep end. 68 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: And then because like, look, I think as as glamorous 69 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: is my life probably looks the outside, it's like we 70 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: all have issues, you know, and it's, um, I I 71 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: don't even know where to begin, you know. It's like 72 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: when I think about all the things that if I 73 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: could choose to like repair everything in my life that 74 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: I have any sort of issue, if, like, I don't 75 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: even know where to start. So it's like I feel 76 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: like with this maybe it will sort of like put 77 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: the right things under a magnifying box. Yeah, okay, this 78 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: is where I need to focus because it will help 79 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: all of these things. So I'm really excited. I'm also 80 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 1: scared to scared to death, but I think that's totally normal, 81 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: that like anxious feeling just because you're ready to do it, 82 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: but then it's just like you have no idea what 83 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: to expect. I think the best mentality is the one 84 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: that you said, which is like going in open and 85 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: willing to be vulnerable and just you know, experience whatever happens, 86 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: because you can't ever map that stuff out. Like I've 87 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: gone to stuff thinking, oh, this is the issue I'm 88 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: gonna work on, and then something totally different comes up, 89 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: and it's just like as long as you're open to 90 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: whatever the universe is going to bring you, like I 91 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: think it's going to be an awesome experience. Yeah, I'm 92 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: really excited. How about yourself? Um, well, I was telling 93 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: you earlier, I've been on the road again, Like I 94 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: went on the road all weekend last weekend and it 95 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:02,119 Speaker 1: with Dirks and I it's just amazing to me how 96 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: much I'm realizing, like I told you, I was, like 97 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: I just have a pep in my step because of it. 98 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'm finding my flow again when 99 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm back in that routine and just like the things 100 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: that I know and the places that I thrive. And 101 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: it's so interesting because because touring was gone during COVID 102 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: and just like completely canceled, I didn't really realize like 103 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: that I was missing it in a way that I was, 104 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: but I could not figure out there was just some 105 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: underlying like feeling of loss, like I just felt lost, 106 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: Like I don't really feel like I could find my foundation. 107 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: And it's really interesting how even something so simple is 108 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: going on the road for a weekend can kind of 109 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: like bring me back into that energy flow and I'm like, 110 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: oh yeah, like I'm really good at this thing, or 111 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: like I just have like a different kind of confidence, 112 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: like I just feel at home, you know. And so 113 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: it's been so refreshing. I told you I hung out 114 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: with Brilon. He's um kind of he was. He went 115 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: played during Dirk's show. They have a song out right 116 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: now called Beers on Me, which is amazing. But um, 117 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: he's like literally my new favorite person. He's the best. 118 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. He was on the I went up to 119 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: Canandaigua to see Dark's is like the beginning of the tour, 120 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: and he was actually the opener, like the first of three, 121 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: and it was so awesome watching people go from like 122 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: because you know, they're like coming into the arena and 123 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: are the amphitheater and like you're expecting to hear like 124 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: straight up country music and there's like hip hop beats 125 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: and like you see their faces go from like where 126 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: are we to like everyone on their feet, like because 127 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: his energy is just like, oh my god, magnetic. I 128 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: think so magnetic. I think they're and and there's like 129 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: a like there's a humbleness that like comes through really 130 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: clearly too. He's just genuine, right, I mean he basically 131 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: was like this is a third concert I've ever played 132 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: in my life. People lost their ships. Mean, but also 133 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: he's so naturally talented that you would never know that. Like, 134 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he goes on stage and owns the stage. 135 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: He is the cutest little black guy, like I just 136 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: am so he I mean, and like, dude, it takes 137 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: like it for me. It was when I saw him, 138 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, he's playing now like he's crashing. 139 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: Dirk's is set, so he's on stage with like a 140 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: full band and everything. When I saw him, it was 141 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: him and a DJ that sometimes plays bass while the 142 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: tracks running, so it's like you have to command that 143 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: halt with no production, like it was all about him. Well, 144 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: I told him so much pressure, So I told him, 145 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I'm first of all, Dirk's is 146 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: so good at just bringing in amazing new talent and 147 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: kind of exposing them to his audience, which I love 148 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: about him, Like, I really think he's really good at 149 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: building up new artists. And I also love that we're 150 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: starting to see more black artists in the country music world, 151 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: because it seems like we're a little slow on that 152 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: ot and so it's amazing. But that I told really 153 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know the reality of what you did, 154 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: like in Cannon Daegua, because I was there too, going 155 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: out on stage by yourself, Like I was actually so 156 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: stressed out for you because that audience, like I did 157 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: not think that they would get it, you know, like 158 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: he isn't your typical country and you know, they came 159 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: to see Riley Green, who is very typical country music 160 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: and Dirk s Bentley, and you know, all of these 161 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: expectations are around that and so but he's does such 162 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: a good job of saying, you know, like I'm not 163 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: one genre, Like I grew up singing gospel music. I 164 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: listen to R and B, I listen to country, I 165 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: listen to pop, I listen to all of it. And 166 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: so he is such a mixed bag, and he gets 167 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: does a really good job of like getting the audience 168 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: on board with that by the end of that set 169 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: that you're talking about, they were upstanding the other night 170 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: when he came out with Dirks. Literally everyone is going 171 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: like insane, like just jumping, and it was kind of 172 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: like a hip hop set in the liddle of Dirk's 173 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: Is set. Like it was hilarious. It's so great. Yeah, 174 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: I mean it's like and at that point in the show, 175 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: people are like drunk and loose, and it feels like 176 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: it's just like all you want is energy, So it 177 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: doesn't like stick out in a weird way, like it's right, everybody, 178 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: do you want to know? The funniest part, So like 179 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: that tour is basically like the Hot Guys Tour right, 180 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: Like it's like Parker McCullum, Riley Green, and Dirk Spentley, 181 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: Like the girls are losing their fucking minds, like in 182 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: the audience. So it was so hilarious to me because 183 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: I'm standing next to Breland like during Dirk's is set, 184 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: and um, the people that were coming up to him 185 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: because we were kind of like sad at the stage 186 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: but like right in front of the audience and the 187 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: people coming up to him were mostly dudes. I always shook. 188 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm like oh my god. But you know it's because 189 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: he sings about like, uh, you know, beers with dirks, Like, 190 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: what is the name of the song. Why did I 191 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: just blank beers on Me? I've heard it eight hundred times. 192 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: You would think that I would remember, but they're thinking 193 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: about beers on me. And then the other song they 194 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: did was called My Truck, and he's basically like, listen, 195 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: you can take everything from me. You could take my woman, 196 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: you could take my money, you could take my house, 197 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: but don't touch my truck. And so I was like, 198 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: oh my god, Breland has the biggest dude country of 199 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: anybody I've ever seen. Actually it was hilarious. But if 200 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: you guys haven't heard Brilliance music, go check him out. 201 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: This is not some plug that we're being paid to 202 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: do or anything. We both just like love him. He's 203 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: my new obsession. Um. Well, I don't really even know 204 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: how to transition into our topic from Briland into only fans, 205 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: like it's just sort of or maybe they are I 206 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: don't even know. Maybe well I did say it's the 207 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: Hot Guys tour, and so maybe that's a good transition, 208 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: is um speaking of hot guys and hot girls, we 209 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: were talking this week about the big revelation from Only Fans, 210 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: Like they went out said, hey, like we're going to 211 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: stop all this sexually explicit content. Maybe you can still 212 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: be nude, we'll get more details, but that's shutting down. 213 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: And people went great, So now a couple of days later, 214 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: when did that happen? That was like maybe it was 215 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: last week. Ok, well they've already retracted that, and that's 216 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: like not happening anymore. And you and I think this 217 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: is so interesting because well, multiple reasons, but one, the 218 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: porn industry is such a financially big um influence on 219 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: our culture these days, and I don't really know how 220 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: to feel about that, and I'll talk a little bit 221 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: about that later. But it is wild the stories that 222 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: you started to read, especially with people surviving the COVID 223 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: times and how much they probably would not have been 224 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: able to financially support their families without starting an Only 225 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: Fans page. It's like, what, this is crazy, Like those 226 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: were the biggest people flipping out about this, you know, 227 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: this sexually explicit content being taken off because they're like, 228 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: we built this business and all of a sudden, you're 229 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: just like pulling the plug on it and now how 230 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: am I going to pay my bills? Well, I mean 231 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: the only Fans has a hundred and thirty million like users, 232 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: so with two million creators on it, so it's like 233 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, and it was built on the backs of 234 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: these sex workers, Like there is no there is no 235 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: doubt in my mind that, um, the majority of the 236 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: people that are on there are doing sexually explicit Actually, 237 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: like when I read the initial article, I was like, wait, 238 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: what would only fans be without sexually explicit content? Like 239 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: I've actually never been on the website, so I don't know, 240 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: but like I literally was like, what will they actually 241 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: even what would a creator create? Then I thought that 242 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: was all that it was. But I guess there's like 243 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: musicians on there, you can do like cooking stuff. I 244 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: mean basically, yeah, what it is, It's like, I mean 245 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: it is, um, I think the split is like to 246 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: the creator, the famis it's just a really turnkey solution 247 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: to have like a subscription, a script subscription model like 248 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: content delivery system. And there's like some really like Cardi 249 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: b is on there. Um Bella Thorne made a million 250 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: bucks in a day. That was like a record, Bad 251 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: Bad Barbie, Bad Bad Bobby yeah. I don't know how 252 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: to say it. She broke that record in six hours. 253 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: She Yeah, she got up what made a million dollars 254 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: and six What was she doing? That's what I want 255 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: to know. I mean, I think she was doing it. 256 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: She's eight, she had just turned eighteen, and um, she did. 257 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: She posted a breakdown on her Instagram. It was she 258 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: was charging a month, so um, seven d fifty seven thousand, 259 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: five six dollars was coming from subscriptions. Um, she was 260 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: also charging for d e ms that she was responding to. 261 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: And she made two hundred sixty seven thousand, six hundred 262 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: seventy five dollars on d m s and then you 263 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: can also collect tips apparently, and she made fifty on tips. 264 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: Good god, Wait, what's that mas seven? I want to 265 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: see how many subscriptions that is divided by four dollars? 266 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: This is I mean, she had like almost thirty two 267 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: thousand people signed up to Yeah, I mean she she 268 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: has sixteen almost seventeen million followers just on Instagram. So 269 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's like a fraction, and it's 270 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: clearly there's seventeen million people that are interested in what 271 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: she is putting out into the world. So and she 272 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: puts like sexy photos on Instagram, but nothing that's like pornographic. 273 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: So it's just like she it's probably like that to 274 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: another level, and it's just a fraction of what, you know, 275 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: the seventeen million people that follow her. I think people 276 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: just like the accessibility to When I was reading that, 277 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. But also I guess it 278 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: could get a little racier because people are paying for it, 279 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: and so maybe they'll push the edge a little bit more, right, 280 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I was thinking back to you when I 281 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: first started Velvet's Edge and like being you know, what 282 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: you would consider a content creator at that point, and 283 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: like it was really hard to figure out how to 284 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: monetize that. But you're doing so much work that you 285 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: start to be like, wait, why am I doing this 286 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: if I'm not going to make money, So like an 287 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: account like an only fans, if you had a big 288 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: following already to give content so where you're not like 289 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: it makes it worth your wow way more than just 290 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: like posting on Instagram and not being paid but giving 291 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: cool content, you know, right, Yeah, I mean I think 292 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: it's like you have to have enough people that are 293 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: like have bought into what the content that you're making 294 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: to shift them over to a premium offering. So well, 295 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: and this is like the day and age, right, Like 296 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: it's like maybe people aren't going to concerts as much, 297 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: or especially during COVID they weren't. And so how do 298 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: you financially as an artist, as some sort of as 299 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: a celebrity, make the income that you used to make 300 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: or like, if you are an artist, like you're supposed 301 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: to grow and change and evolve, and I think like 302 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: technology and social media, all of these internet companies are 303 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: kind of the way of the future in so many ways, 304 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: and so if you're not shifting that direction, you might 305 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: lose out. Yeah, I mean, look, there's I think there's 306 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: a lot of ways, especially as a recording artist, that 307 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: you could use this, Like I mean, sorry, it was 308 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: like crushing my ears um. As a recording artist, you 309 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: could use it to be like, hey, I'm gonna do 310 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: a livestream concert once a week, you know, just play 311 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: like new songs and charge ten month. So it's like 312 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: you're super fans. Obviously you're catering to super fan at 313 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: this point. It's not the casual fan. It's going to 314 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: spend it. But like you know, not five a month. 315 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: It's like if you're if you have a thousand people 316 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: that do that, you're making ten grand a month. Yeah, 317 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: and it's easy because you're probably doing that anyway, probably 318 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: any So, so it makes sense as a platform, I mean, 319 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: but it takes a twist because this the whole website 320 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: has become known for this sexually explicit content, and these 321 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: are the things like when I'm reading these articles about 322 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: them shutting that down. I mean, there were literally multiple, multiple, 323 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 1: multiple stories of single moms who during COVID lost their 324 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: job or didn't have enough income coming in in the 325 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: first place. They were behind other bills bad you know, 326 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: back checked on rent and um they started an only 327 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: Vans account and we're able to catch up on all 328 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: their payments, you know, just pay all the bills, keep 329 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: a roof over their kids heads, are saving for college. 330 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: I clean you could like clean your apartment in your panties, 331 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like people will pay 332 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: for like like that. Tell me maybe we should start 333 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: a page for your feet. I literally make jokes about 334 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: it all the time on my Instagram, like because I've 335 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: done you know, I do like Q and A sometimes 336 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: or whatever where people ask questions, and that's always a question. 337 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: When are you starting an only fans account? And honestly, 338 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, god, I'm probably sucking missing out? Why not? 339 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: Like I would never? I could never, I could, but 340 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: kept it. Like what if you stopped putting any bikini 341 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: picks on your Instagram and only put bikini picks on 342 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: your I don't think people are that that into a 343 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: bikini pics. I don't know. I don't know. I've got 344 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: a few friends who love them. I want to tell 345 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: me about that later. I just well, this is where 346 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: it gets to be, like we we kind of had 347 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: this conversation before we started the podcast because I am 348 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: a most really very torn about how I feel about 349 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: all of this. You know, like I talked about this 350 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, but even posting bikini pictures 351 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: because I'm selling a bathing suit um or linking to 352 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: the outfit that I'm wearing feels somewhat like, as I've 353 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: started to get in my head a little bit about it, 354 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: like am I playing into the over sexualization of women 355 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: that I actually am really starting to have a new 356 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: awareness of. And it's not like it's just women on 357 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: only Fans, but the overwhelming sense that our culture has 358 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: become so driven um by pornography or just like turning 359 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: sex into what it's become, which I don't know. I 360 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: don't want to sound like this like prude or this 361 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: like Bible beater, but I feel very torn about what 362 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: that's that's actually doing to our society, to our relationships, 363 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: to us as humans. Like if we're doing it all 364 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: the time and that's the content we are consuming all 365 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: of the time time, Um, are we even able to 366 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: like show up and exist in what kind of whole 367 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: are we trying to fill in our soul that's not 368 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: being filled with something that's like helping us a grow 369 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: and evolve. Right, Well, look to play Devil's advocate, And 370 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: you know this is not to diminish the fact that 371 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: like corn addiction and these things are very sex addiction. 372 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: They're very real and their problems that people suffer with. 373 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: But um, you know, corn is something that people seek out. 374 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: It is not something that like on a normal day 375 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: you're sitting on you know, CNN dot com and you're 376 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: being served like an ad for the latest gang bang 377 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: scene from Stormy Daniels. It's just like you It is 378 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: something that like we as humans are choosing to seek 379 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: out and um, yes, it has become much more readily available. 380 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: So I think in terms of driving the addiction and 381 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: those things like it's, um, it's just at our fingertips, 382 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: it's on your phone. It's like where people are probably 383 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: finding it at a younger age. You know. It's like 384 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: or if it's not that they're finding at a younger age, 385 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: they're finding it at greater quantities at that age that 386 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: you might have found your uncle's like Playboy or something, 387 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: you know, when you were a kid. So um, I 388 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: do think that like obviously, you know, we need to 389 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: address that it is a problem for some people that 390 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: get solid control. But I also think we need to say, 391 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: like we need to acknowledge that like as human beings, 392 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: like clearly there's a curiosity and the desire to have it, 393 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: because otherwise the industry itself wouldn't continue be able to 394 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: continue to evolve at the right that it's evolved in 395 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: because people want it. I found. I found like, um, 396 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: there was an article in The Guardian that was talked 397 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: that talked about like this from two thousand eighteen, and 398 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: basically the headline of the article was the growth of Internet, 399 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: porn tells us more about ourselves than technology. And you know, 400 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: historically porn has been credited to like advancing technology, like 401 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: you know, it like was the boon for like VHS tapes. 402 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: It's what made them really popular over Data Max, which 403 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: was thought to be like a more like high end 404 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: version of a home video, but it was more expensive. Um. 405 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: And then obviously it really drove broadband and internet use. 406 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: But um, you know, it's the article says that like 407 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: because of the desires of human beings wanting it, it's 408 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: not necessarily the Internet fault, that it's a problem. It's 409 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: ours because we've chosen it. Um. But it's it's like 410 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: so there is no like true. You can't find how 411 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: much money the porn industry makes because a lot of 412 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: the companies are private, um, so their finances aren't there. 413 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: But the US estimates between nine and seven billion dollars 414 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: a year. So it's like a massive range. A lot 415 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: of people think it's excessive. So this article says that 416 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: a conservative conservative estimate is fifteen billion a year. That 417 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 1: makes it bigger than Netflix at eleven point seven billion, 418 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: but also Hollywood as a whole at eleven point one billion, 419 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: and viacom at thirteen point three billion online porn is huge. 420 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: That is insane. Yeah, yeah, I told you this. I 421 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: m reposted this. It wasn't a TikTok. It was like 422 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: a Instagram real that I watched earlier this week, and 423 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: it was this guy talking about UM how corn like 424 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: because a lot of the questions are is this bad 425 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: for your relationship? Is this bad for your sex life 426 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: in general in real life, you know, And that's a 427 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: big debate. And I we've had a sex expert on 428 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: actually this podcast before talking about UM the effects of 429 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: porn or masturbation on your relationship, and his overwriting sense 430 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: was like, as long as you're communicating with your partner 431 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: openly and it's like something that you guys agree on 432 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: as like you agree on whatever the guidelines are about 433 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: that topic, UM, that it shouldn't really affect anything. Because 434 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: the big issue with people is the betrayal piece of 435 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: finding out like that secretly somebody's watching porn and masturbating 436 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: all the time. But this guy was talking about the 437 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: fact that if you watch porn um you become so 438 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: desensitized to like one neked bodies and like things that 439 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: turn you on and the fantasy gets bigger and bigger 440 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: and bigger, right, So, like when you're watching porn, it's 441 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: like it's a form of fantasy, and so you're living 442 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: out these really bizarre, wild, insanely far sexual experiences that 443 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: maybe you're not having in real life. And so then 444 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: you he said that if you do it enough, like 445 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: you become so desensitized that you have a hard time 446 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: having real sexual experiences because they're not as exciting or 447 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: you're kind of waiting for the fantasy to get you 448 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: turned on versus like the actual human being in front 449 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: of you, right, which that to me is where I'm like, 450 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is sad, Like we're not able 451 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: to fully connect with each other in relationships and the 452 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: capacity that I do believe we all deep down one Like, 453 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: so that's why I'm like, what are we actually searching 454 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: for when we're consuming so much sexually explicit materials? Like 455 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: what is the hole in our soul that we're not 456 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: attending to? Um? And this is what to say. It's 457 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: like right or wrong, it's just like it makes me 458 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: sad as a human being. Yeah, I mean that there's 459 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: also probably something to be said about the fact that like, Okay, 460 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm having these desires. I'm gonna go like watch this 461 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: and masturbate and then I'm going to go back to 462 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: my life. And it's like, so you're fulfilling these desires 463 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: in a way that isn't the most natural way that 464 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: like historically we would have done that as a human, 465 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: Like you would have been like these desires would get 466 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: pent up and you have to go out and meet 467 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: somebody and and and sort of you know, well that's 468 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: that therapist that we Yeah, do you remember that therapist set. 469 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: It's the lazy man's version of sex. Like it's like 470 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: because you literally go but shut your bedroom door, and 471 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: then you get you live out this fantasy and then 472 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: you go back to life, like you go back to 473 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: your either whatever. And there's people we were reading articles 474 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: that's like a lot of people are there's a high 475 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: number of people who do this at work. Let's like 476 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: the way you go to the bathroom and then you 477 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: go back to your desk and you're just like to 478 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: do to do Yeah, I just watch like step mom 479 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: plow her steps or so I don't know literally work 480 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: at that point. But then duty was just like defiled 481 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: by uncle, right, and so then it's just like you know, 482 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, and I don't think fantasy is bad 483 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: and sexual experiences, I think that's kind of a fun thing, 484 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: but it is like okay, but could you actually do 485 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: this in life with a partner or whoever it is 486 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: that you're having sex with And if not, like, are 487 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: you then okay with normal sexual experiences? Like are you 488 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: able to fully enjoy those or connect in a real 489 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: way or are you just looking for the hit, like 490 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: that dopamine hit that you get from quickly going to 491 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: watch porn and taking care of business. I wonder if 492 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: there's any study done like that shows that its actually 493 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: like makes you more productive if you like get that 494 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: dopamine hit. But yeah, or is it like is it 495 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: a is it a shirt? All sign of like something 496 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: is really off that like you don't have the self 497 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: control to like wait till your home. Well that's sort 498 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: of like yeah, I mean that's where I think, like 499 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: we were talking about the addiction stuff earlier, and I 500 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: mean the porn addiction rates are just going up because 501 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: it becomes this medicator, right like you can get that 502 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: quick dopamine hit and um, if your life is hard 503 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: or you're going through something, you can go get that 504 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: to help you feel better quickly. It's the same thing 505 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: as like drinking too much when you're going through a 506 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: hard time or whatever. Like medicating. It's just medicating it. 507 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: And that's why I don't think that's across the board. 508 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: But I'm saying these are like some of my concerns 509 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: and like the things that make me sad for our 510 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: society as a whole is like these numbers. I mean, 511 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: you can't deny only only fans has already retracted their 512 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: statement and there telling banks to go funk themselves so 513 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: that they can keep this sexually explicit content because it's 514 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: that important to their business. Like, yeah, they pay out 515 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: three hundred million dollars a month to their creators. It's crazy, 516 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: a lot of money. It's a lot of money, you know. 517 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I get the map, like it's on average 518 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: though like it, you know, and obviously some creators are 519 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: making a lot more money than others, but it's it 520 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: works out to be at two million creators. It's they're 521 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: paying out a hundred and fifty dollars per creator a 522 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: month um, which doesn't sound like a lot of money, 523 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: but I would imagine some creators probably just aren't like 524 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: raking it in where some are you know. I read 525 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: an article about a girl who makes six figures a 526 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: month figures a month, Like what the fund is she 527 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: putting up? Because maybe I want to do that? Yeah, 528 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: what's her saying? Like subscribe for a month and like 529 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: learn something good. God. I was just like, oh my god, no, 530 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: wonder there there's such a big like people are like, Okay, 531 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do this. And you were very you 532 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: know when we started talking about topic. You were like, 533 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: I really don't want to shame sex workers, and I 534 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: don't either. That's not my point. I personally feel torn 535 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: because when I read about these like single mom paying 536 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: their bills and feeling the relief of actually being financially stable. 537 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: Like I've been broke before in my life. I know 538 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: what that feels like. It's the most stressful experience, especially 539 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: if you had kids you were trying to provide for. 540 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: So it's like, I'm like, go ahead, girl, do it. 541 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: Like and then maybe they're only doing bikini picks like 542 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at if you look at Instagram, 543 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: when I go to my when I go to my 544 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: Discover page, it's pictures of boxers and guys with their 545 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: shirts off, like they know what I want to see. 546 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 1: That's it's like, yeah, they know. They monitor what you 547 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: click on, and that's what you start seeing is like 548 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: relationship quotes like fascinating narcissist. But the point that I'm 549 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: making is is like you click on these like random 550 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: guys from or I'll click on these random guys from 551 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: around the world and they have hundreds of thousands of 552 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: people that are following them, sometimes millions, and um there's 553 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: women that are in the same case. And like these 554 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: people the only reason they have followers is because they're 555 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: hot and their clothes are off. So if they're smart, 556 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: they're like, well, wait a minute, I can just take 557 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: off a little bit more clothes and charge somebody five 558 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: am I would do Like if I had a body 559 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: like that, like I would do that. I mean I 560 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: don't think that I would go as far as like 561 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: making pornographic content, but if I could charge people five 562 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: million on a month to like look at me shirtless, 563 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: yes I would. That's not what only fans was taken away. 564 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: It was just the set pornographic aspect. True, true, But 565 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: did that what did that mean? Full nude or like 566 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: they hadn't because they didn't even get that far. But 567 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: there was like they were saying, nudity will still be allowed, 568 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: it's as long as it's not sexually explicit, which I'm like, okay, 569 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: it just gets a little I don't know so anyway, 570 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: I just I think it's an interesting conversation. I don't 571 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: know that we really have some sort of resolve, and 572 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: we were just both like, what is this happening? Like 573 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: the uproar that happened when they announced this was shocking 574 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: in and when I saw the headline, I thought it 575 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: was like an Onion article. I was like, I know, 576 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean, what is only fans without porn That's what 577 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: it's like, being like porn Hub changed his name to 578 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: hub and Pornography. It's like and you're like, hey, what 579 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: are you like buy? Yeah, I don't know. I mean 580 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: I would love to hear what you guys think about 581 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: this as a topic. Like every time I post anything 582 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: about porn um or we did that last podcast, people 583 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: write in because I think a lot of people are 584 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: noticing how it's affecting their relationships. And I mean most 585 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: of the people that write into us our women. But 586 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: you were it was so interesting when you were reading 587 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: those statistics about what was it porn views like, it 588 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: was a lot of what well thirty five this is 589 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: I found this on the Recovery Village dot com. It's, 590 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, a recovery center that you can go um 591 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: and work on porn addiction. But um it says pornography 592 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: is prevalent in society. Porn addiction affects about five d 593 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: eight percent of adults. People addicted to porn spend at 594 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: least eleven to twelve hours per week doing porn um. 595 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: Most people say that their porn addiction hurts their personal relationships. 596 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: It occurs. Many conditions occur with porn addiction, including anxiety, depression, 597 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: sex edition addiction, social anxiety, and substance abuse disorders. UM 598 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: and it's the good news is that the problemasis for 599 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: porn adiction is good and it can be helped with 600 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: cognitive behavioral therapy and counseling. But here's some crazy numbers. 601 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: Thirty five percent of all downloads on the Internet are 602 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: porn um. Forty million US adults regularly visit internet porn sites. 603 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: Ten percent of US adults admit to having addiction. Sevent 604 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: of women of all women's struggle struggle with porn adiction. 605 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: Twenty percent of men and of women admit to accessing 606 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: porn while at work. There's that one for you. Seventy 607 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: percent of women admit to keep um, admit to keeping 608 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: their side their side sorry, their cyber activity secret, and 609 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: one in three visitors to adult websites is a woman. 610 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 1: That was surprising to me because I think you hear 611 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: about it so much more with men. But this isn't 612 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: the exact point that I'm trying to make about, Like 613 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: what is it that we're actually looking for? Like are 614 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: these women in relationshi? Are they single? Are they in 615 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: relationships and they're not satisfied? Actually? And like if that 616 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: is the case, like are we losing the ability to 617 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: communicate with our partners or do we ever have it? 618 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 1: You know? Like I'm wondering if we're taking the lazy 619 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: way out of actually having real, committed, communicative, transparent relationships 620 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: just by like being like, yeah, fuck it, I'm just 621 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: gonna go watch porn and jack off. Yeah. I mean, look, 622 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: I also think it's like, you know, we can't step 623 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: inside of everyone's relationship, but like a healthy communicative relationship 624 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: would be like would mean that you could go to 625 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: your partner and be like, hey, you know, I love 626 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: when you do this or I want to do this 627 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: with you, and you could actually live out your fantasy 628 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: like you have it in your bed, in your own bedroom, 629 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: you know, an actual human. But I think I think 630 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: that like I mean, and you know, all I can 631 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: speak of two is the or an experience. Like I 632 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: think that, like we view sex so puritanically in our 633 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: country that it drives the sex addiction and porn addiction 634 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: sort of things because we've like most people would think 635 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: that like their partners a fucking creep if they told 636 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: them what really gets them off, and so they can 637 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: go like check that box and like live out that 638 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: fantasy without having to share that and run the risk 639 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: of being judged for like what they find sex or well. 640 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: And I do think it's like a long term relationships, right, 641 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: Like I mean, I am a monogamous and I want 642 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 1: a monogamous relationship. But I do see where if you're 643 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: in a long term relationship, like you're like, yeah, I'm 644 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: having sex with the same person over and over and over, 645 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: and you just kind of get these programs right, like 646 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: you're just like, uh, I know what this is what 647 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: gets them off every time, or like again, you get 648 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: lazy and so and it kind of becomes more mechanical sometimes. 649 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: And so I can see where this escape to fantasy 650 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: is happy ending in like that it is enticing, and 651 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: it's so easily accessible these days, Like it's just there, 652 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: It's everywhere you look. It's like what you said on Instagram. 653 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: It's just like even the things that the accounts that 654 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 1: I've seen on Instagram late, I'm like, how the funk 655 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: is that not porn? Like it is? It is hard, 656 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 1: and it's like I know, as a person in a relationship, 657 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want my boyfriend looking at that, 658 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: But that's what pops up in his Discover page, like 659 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: what you're talking about anytime a man joins. I mean, 660 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: I've had this conversation with Jake Woodard, who um we've 661 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: talked a lot about on the podcast. He's been on 662 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 1: the podcast a lot, but he talks a lot about 663 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: like the masculine energy and and how hard that is, 664 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: Like I mean, he used to be addicted to porn too, 665 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: and he just says, like it's everywhere. It's like you 666 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: if you join Instagram as a heterosexual, man, and you 667 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: put that in in your profile or whatever, they know 668 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: what sends you like you said, and then it's like 669 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: you click on it once and it's just like floods 670 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: your thing. And so I don't know, It's just it's 671 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: an interest topic to me. I think it's interesting questions 672 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: to ask yourself. Like we said, there's we're not trying 673 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: to shame anybody, and we're not like saying we have 674 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: any answers. It's just like, wait, why am I doing this? 675 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: Or uh, what does it bring in to my life? 676 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: Is this what I want from my relationship? I don't know. 677 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: And then the other topic of like people making a living, 678 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I mean it's like I hate 679 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: getting the way of anybody making a living too, especially 680 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: a woman trying to make a book for her kid. 681 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I just I can't. It's really hard for 682 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: me to be like there's anything bad in that, you know. 683 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know what the answer 684 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: solution would be. Yeah, I mean I think I think 685 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: the answer and solution for my opinion would be, um, 686 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: let people do it and just you know, be wise 687 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: about your use of pornography. I feel that way about 688 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, drugs and you know other things right that. 689 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: You know, ice cream is like too much ice cream 690 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: is body And it's like you have to like as 691 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: a as a you know, a human being, like you 692 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: have to make really smart choices. And it doesn't mean 693 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: that you can't do these things. It just means that 694 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: you have to sort of regulate yourself well. And like 695 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: we said, I think that's the importance of what that 696 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: therapist is talking about, about being open with your partner 697 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: and having conversations about like what you guys are both 698 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: comfortable with if you are in a relationship, um, because 699 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be a deal breaker and it 700 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be like, oh, you can't ever do this. 701 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: It's just like having the conversation so that there's no 702 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: trust issues that come up from these kind of things, 703 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: right anyway, you guys do you that's just our thoughts 704 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: on the topic, and you know, sit back and away 705 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: for Kelly's only fans page coming from. If we have 706 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: to go into isolation again, you just never know because 707 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's I mean, girls gotta pay a mortgage. 708 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna start putting up bikini pics of 709 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: like me and ladies bikinis, Like, oh my god, nobody 710 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: wants that. Like I'd probably have to pay to have 711 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: that up. I'm just gonna like take take the camera 712 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: into when I'm getting my tattoo removed off my foot 713 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: and just see who I can get off on that. 714 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 1: Um Okay, we have a couple of emails really quick. 715 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to go through. Um, the COVID conversation is 716 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: still a big one in our our email inbox. Um. 717 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: This one comes from Kaylee. It's called speaking my truths. Hey, 718 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 1: Chip and Kelly, thank you all for losing your using 719 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: your platform to discuss important issues. I especially respect you 720 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: all for speaking your truths while allowing others to speak 721 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: there's no matter how different they may be. I just 722 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: wanted to speak my truths. My truth is I hate 723 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,479 Speaker 1: being sick, whether it's because of allergies, a common cold, 724 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: or a life threatening situation. And your girl has been 725 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: through that whole spectrum. If given the opportunity to be 726 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: healthy or sick, I will always choose healthy. And another truth, 727 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: I hate when people self diagnose the themselves pro fomo 728 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: for fear of missing out. Y'all talk about hanging out 729 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: with a person who did not disclose he was sick 730 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: and ended up infecting several people. I would be pissed 731 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 1: he even passed me the common cold. Regardless of COVID, 732 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 1: in general, you have no idea what a person's situation 733 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: is if they have an underlying condition compromised immune system, dependence, 734 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: or professional or financial situation that does not allow for 735 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: easy sick days. And unless you have credible and recent 736 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: diagnosis that states your illness is not contagious, the fact 737 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: that you would risk getting someone else sick for your 738 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: own pursuits is the epitome of selfishness and in consideration, 739 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: and my last truth is I hate that people lack empathy. 740 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: A friend of mine never put much weight in COVID 741 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: and ended up getting it herself. She brushed it off 742 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: and told everyone that she never got a fever, lost 743 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: her sense of taste and smell, and that was it. 744 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: She contributed to the been there, done that narrative and 745 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: boosted her so called credibility through first hand experience. Fine, 746 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: so be it. It was one of those situations that 747 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 1: unless you want to dissolve a friendship asap, you agreed 748 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: to disagree and go about life with what ever floats 749 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: your boat. But last week a close friend of hers 750 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 1: died because of COVID. She was young, healthy, no more 751 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: co morbidity, nothing, and suddenly there's been a one eighty 752 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: degree change in her attitude. I can appreciate that she 753 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: had an epiphany or gain perspective through tragic loss, but 754 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: I would hope that it would not take such extreme 755 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: measures to inspire empathy. I dare not ask people to 756 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: change their truths, but I'm begging people to open their 757 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: hearts and be empathetic to their neighbors. I think if 758 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 1: we were all a little more human than we could 759 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: at least coexist amidst amidst difference of opinion instead of 760 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: living in a constant world of distasteful divide. Sorry this 761 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: is long, but y'all inspire some passion. I mean, I 762 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 1: told you this earlier, but I was really sad to 763 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: get the news this morning. A friend of mine actually 764 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: passed away this morning from COVID um. He got put 765 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: into hospice last week, and so I kind of felt 766 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 1: this is coming, But I mean, I was devastated and 767 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: it was just another just like what she's saying, It's 768 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, what is it going to 769 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 1: take for people to be like, this is fucking real 770 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: and just because it didn't affect you in a terrible way, 771 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: like you don't really know who you're spreading it to 772 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: that it could be a life threatening situation. And so 773 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: it is really important to think about other people and 774 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: the grand um, the grand picture of who this could affect, 775 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 1: even if for you specifically you were fine. Yeah, yeah, 776 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like the thing is is that there's 777 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: such a ripple effect to it, you know, It's you 778 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: could give it to someone at the grocery store who 779 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: is young, and they pass it to their grandmother, and 780 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: it's just I mean, Chip, we were talking about you 781 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: at home after being exposed and you did, in fact 782 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: end up having COVID. Like your mom cannot get COVID. No, 783 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: she's on oxygen. It's like cannot And all it took 784 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 1: was going to a happy hour, you know. And it's 785 00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: like because that person was irresponsible with it, Um, you 786 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: put your mom's life in danger unknowingly. And you know, 787 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: I am hearing more and more conversations of like what 788 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: she described, where there's people who are completely healthy, there's 789 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: no like pre existing conditions. You know, my friend wasn't 790 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: in the best health that passed away, but he survived 791 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: a stroke two years ago and he was like forty five. 792 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,240 Speaker 1: I mean, like, it's not like he was old and 793 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: there's like I mean to me, I'm like, a stroke 794 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: didn't take him out, but COVID did. If that doesn't 795 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: tell you all how serious this is, Like I don't know, 796 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: I just I can't. I can't help but just be 797 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 1: frustrated that I still don't feel like there's some people 798 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 1: who are taking it seriously as an illness and thinking 799 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: about other people who might be affected and not just themselves. Yeah, 800 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: it's I mean, I'm exhausted even talking about it, to 801 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: be honest, like particularly here in Tennessee. You know, it's 802 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: like the stuff that we're being served every day on 803 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: the or not about like masks versus not no masks, 804 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: and well the school starting and no masks. I'm just like, 805 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: come a funck on, Okay, let's please keep the kids 806 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: in school if nothing else, let's um okay. This one 807 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: comes from anonymous. She said, Hi, Kelly and Ship, I'm 808 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: so glad to hear you guys encouraging people to get 809 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: vaccinated and for being so honest about your feelings on 810 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 1: the topic. I know it's a risk to open yourself 811 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: up to criticism, but I appreciate it. I agree with 812 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: you that said I could use some advice for context. 813 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: I am double vaccinated, and I am also six months pregnant. 814 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 1: Getting vaccinated was a no brainer for me, although I 815 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: got mine pretty early on before it became such a 816 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: divisive issue last week, alwa was purple when I'm reading 817 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: so unprofessional. Excuse me, guys. Last week I met a 818 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: friend I haven't seen for almost a year. All of 819 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: the COVID restrictions had been lifted where I have been 820 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 1: lifted where I live, so although I still choose to 821 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: wear a mask indoors at bars, on public transport, etcetera. 822 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: We met outside at a restaurant, hugged, and sat together 823 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: about an hour m My friend is closed that she's 824 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: not vaccinated. My initial reaction was shocked. All of my 825 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: other friends are vaccinated, so I didn't even think about it. 826 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: She's the type of person that hates taking even basic 827 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,280 Speaker 1: mild pain killers for a headache, so I thought maybe 828 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: she was anxious for putting substances into her body. But 829 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: it turns out she just doesn't want to be told 830 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 1: what to do. Yikes. She did say that she was 831 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: taking regular rapid test and tested negative before she came 832 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: to meet me, But aside from being blindsided by her 833 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: opinion on the topic, I can't help but be so 834 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 1: mad at her. I've seen a lot of very scary 835 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: statistics about the effects of COVID on unvaccinated pregnant women 836 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 1: and their unborn babies. Obviously, being vaccinated gives me a 837 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: real good level a protection, but as we know, it's 838 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: not a guarantee, and I could still get it With 839 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,240 Speaker 1: that in mind, I'm just so mad that she would 840 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: put me in that position. If I'd known she was unvaccinated, 841 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: I possibly wouldn't have met up with her, or I 842 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: at least would have been a lot more careful before 843 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: we parted. My friend mentioned that we should get together 844 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,879 Speaker 1: against soon, and the truth is I don't really want 845 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: to see her or any unvaccinated people for the remainder 846 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: of my pregnancy. I don't want to fall out with 847 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 1: my friend. I know she's not a terrible person, but 848 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going to cause a ship storm 849 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: when I tell her I can't see her. Do you 850 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: have any advice for one processing my anger and to 851 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: asserting my boundaries, both without blowing up a friendship. Thanks guys, 852 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,760 Speaker 1: Sorry it was such a long, rambly one. Well. I mean, look, 853 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: I think processing the anger. I don't know if I 854 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,280 Speaker 1: can really speak to that because I'm bad about about myself. 855 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: But I think in terms of like setting a boundary, 856 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: like anyone who is making a choice to not be 857 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: vaccinated have to understand why you might make a choice 858 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,439 Speaker 1: not to be around them. And I think it can 859 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: be done in the most sensitive ways, like you know, 860 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 1: like you can say exactly that, like I love you, 861 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: I care about you, but right now I have to 862 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 1: care more about me my unborn child, and for the 863 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: time being, this is the choice that I unfortunately have 864 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 1: to make, you know, and like and in some ways, 865 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: like maybe that's what your friend needs to hear, Like 866 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: maybe it's it's she'll hear that from enough people where 867 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,839 Speaker 1: it's it will inspire to just go ahead and get 868 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 1: the vaccine, because they have to be repercussions for making 869 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: that choice. I know that there are plenty of people 870 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 1: in my orbit who really did not want to get 871 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: the vaccine. I didn't want to get it that just 872 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: like did not want you to get it, but understand 873 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: why they needed to, and they made the decision to 874 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 1: do it to keep themselves healthy and to keep those 875 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: around them healthy. So if you're making the choice to 876 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 1: not get it, although I don't agree, I'm not gonna 877 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 1: hate you, but I don't really want to be around you, 878 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 1: you know. I mean that's sort of like what we 879 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 1: were saying about the guy that exposed us a couple 880 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, is like, just fucking tell us that 881 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: you have these symptoms and then let us decide. You know, 882 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: Like I think it's like we all have to be 883 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 1: over really communicative at this point because of all of 884 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 1: the things happening in our culture, and because it is 885 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 1: such a divisive topic and so hardcore on their side 886 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: of it. You know. The thing I do have concerns 887 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 1: about for her is and people are so sensitive about 888 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,439 Speaker 1: this topic, and so I could see a situation where 889 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: she's honest with her friend and her friend maybe won't 890 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: take it well, and you know, it becomes that thing. 891 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 1: We've had a couple of people in our lives like 892 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: this who we say, hey, like this is what we believe, 893 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: and we're not okay with this, and it's ruined the friendship, 894 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: and I do think that there's a possibility that could happen. 895 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: I also think if that is the situation where these 896 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 1: kind of things could ruin your friendship, is that really 897 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 1: a friendship one? Anyway. That's the kind of things that 898 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm learning. You know, It's like if I can't say 899 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:02,399 Speaker 1: my truth respectfully and then you have yours and it's 900 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: gonna like be the falling out of our friendship, maybe 901 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: this isn't the right relationship for me anyway, because at 902 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 1: this point in my life, like I got to be 903 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: able to have relationships where we can communicate openly and 904 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 1: honestly about who we are and what we believe. Yeah, 905 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean this is a little bit of a nonsequitur, 906 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: but I don't know if you saw this news today, 907 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 1: I do think it applies to the question. Delta Airlines 908 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: announced today that UM all unvaccinated employees are going to 909 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: have to start paying more for their health insurance and 910 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 1: they're going to be charged two hundred dollars a month 911 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: for being unvaccinated. And the reason why is because UM 912 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 1: the average cost um the average cost to Delta for 913 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,760 Speaker 1: their employees that have had COVID and gone to the hospitals. 914 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 1: It's yeah, I mean I don't blame them. I don't either, 915 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: So it's just I bring it up because it's like 916 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 1: it's an example of like there's repercussions for making the 917 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: choice to not be vaccinated. Um, and I mean the 918 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: worst of which is death right, you know, to somebody else. 919 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: But and then to speak to the topic of how 920 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: to like process your anger, I think this has been 921 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,280 Speaker 1: the biggest test. And I mean we're sitting here talking 922 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 1: about our thoughts and our feelings on these things, and 923 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: oh man, we just got cut off. But now, yeah, 924 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: you were talking about how to manage the anger. Yeah, 925 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: I was just saying that, Like, I do think that 926 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 1: this has been the biggest test in not trying to 927 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 1: control other people and kind of going Okay, they're entitled 928 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,839 Speaker 1: to their opinion and then I get to decide how 929 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 1: I feel about their relationship or um, you know, like 930 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: how I can let go of trying to control someone else. 931 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: And and that's so hard. I mean I feel sort 932 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 1: of like a hypocrite because we're sitting here being like, 933 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 1: go get a vaccine, but like that's that's our opinion, 934 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 1: and we're using the platform that we have to say it, 935 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 1: but I do think that we really have to. It's 936 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 1: like the biggest let go and like god experience of 937 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 1: my entire life, because you literally cannot change other people unfortunately. 938 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: I think all we can do is keep talking about 939 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,800 Speaker 1: our opinions and I don't know, give each other grace. 940 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: I guess, yeah. And it's like I also think time 941 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: will Like I think time away from that person who's 942 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: making you angry is always a wise thing to do. 943 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 1: And I also think like that just being honest about 944 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: it will make you feel better. I know I was 945 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 1: gonna say you could just avoid her for the next 946 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,240 Speaker 1: couple of months, like, you know, life is so busy 947 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,399 Speaker 1: you could just happen to not have schedules work out, 948 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 1: But I'm like, that's not really the mature thing to do. 949 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, maybe we all just need to be able 950 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 1: to say our truths and if people can handle it, great, 951 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: and if they can't, great, that's on them too. We're 952 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: not responsible for other people's opinions or intentions, right, And 953 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: I think that like sometimes when we're mad at other people, 954 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: there's also a little bit of like we're mad at 955 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 1: ourselves for not dealing with it the way that we 956 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: wanted to. So I think that's right. I think you 957 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: can alleviate some of that anger by just being honest 958 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 1: and like clearing clearing the air. Yeah yeah, all right, 959 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 1: we'll hope we as we answered your questions. Um, we 960 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,800 Speaker 1: want to hear about your thoughts about this corn topic 961 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 1: only fans and just the corn industry in general, in 962 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: our culture, and how it's affecting your lives, your relationships, 963 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,319 Speaker 1: what you think about it, do you love it? Is? 964 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 1: Just like do we need to get more on board? 965 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm curious if I'm curious if anyone 966 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: actually uses only fans too, because you make money about it, 967 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 1: Like you know, um bad Barbie. If she's charged in 968 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,959 Speaker 1: a month that's like twice as much as it costs 969 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 1: out a Netflix account. I know, more than twice what 970 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 1: it cost. That's why I was, you know, well, that's 971 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: why I was asking what kind of conscience is putting up? 972 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: So if anyone hasn't only a fans account but they're 973 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: making money on send us the details because we have 974 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: a lot of questions. I don't even think you can see. 975 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: This is my work computer, so I'm not gonna look 976 00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 1: at it, but can you even like preview what someone 977 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 1: is doing. I think that's the point of having a 978 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 1: pay right. It's locked like, it's not right. Well, we'll 979 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,879 Speaker 1: look into this. We gotta go, So you guys send 980 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,919 Speaker 1: us your emails. I have to go is the point, um, 981 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: So as your emails to the Edge at Velvet edge 982 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 1: dot com. We're curious what your thoughts are on this 983 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 1: topic and we'll report back next week with the information 984 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 1: that we learn, um and then email Chip as you 985 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 1: guys are going into this weekend just like Chip and 986 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,839 Speaker 1: I are going into this Bachelor at party weekend. I 987 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 1: hope that while you're living on the edge, you remember 988 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:44,240 Speaker 1: and are you tuck okay? You always? I think so. 989 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm got stressed out about time because I have to 990 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 1: go to the speed you bet I go? Okay, listen 991 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 1: to you guys. I can't fucking that casual okay,