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Speaker 1: in about five minutes, so storytime with Uncle Colin. I

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Speaker 1: tend to be a creature of habit. I can be

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Speaker 1: very repetitive, eat the same oatmeal for breakfast, exercise at

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Speaker 1: So I've always thought one of the things that was

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Speaker 1: we take the kids on vacation, if we're going on

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Speaker 1: maybe you're a great planner. Like if we're going to

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Speaker 1: And I know that it's not a strength of mine,

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Speaker 1: back to the story. One of the things that was

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Speaker 1: It was probably the most college football I've watched in

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Speaker 1: a single day in like seven years. And I like

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Speaker 1: college football. But it was repetitive. It was the same

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Speaker 1: football this year. Is that is Mario crystal Ball going

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley pulled it out? Is that college football, because

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Speaker 1: of how it's constructed, the better you are, the more

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Speaker 1: great recruits you get. It's a dynasty driven sport, and

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Speaker 1: so to break that up the SEC's dominance, you need

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Speaker 1: We got enough Georgia's, Alabama's in Clemson, Oklahoma's. We got

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Speaker 1: It's to it. I'm not going on vacation and doing

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Speaker 1: And maybe that's selfish, but college football ratings and attendance

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Speaker 1: this year college football ratings are up They already are,

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Speaker 1: Now UCLA is unbeaten, USC's unbeaten. The Pac twelve looks

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Speaker 1: Did anybody say anything to you personally or the reaction

427
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Speaker 1: you got, because it really got talked about a lot.

428
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Speaker 1: Yah See, I didn't. That's a great thing about deleting

429
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: your social you didn't. You don't see the reaction, so

430
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: I didn't even know. But you know, it's tough because

431
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: you know, use those platforms to communicate with people that

432
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, people from home, people that you went to

433
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: college with, and maybe you haven't don't have your number,

434
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: but you still want to talk to and so use

435
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: it for that. But there's so much negativity on all

436
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: the platforms that it's just tough to deal with, sometimes

437
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: positively and negatively. And so you want to be as quarterbacks.

438
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: We got to maintain even keel through the whole game,

439
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: the whole season. It's a marathon. You can't get too

440
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: high and you can't get too low. And I think

441
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: social media is a net negative for people in our position.

442
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. Years ago I was at a

443
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: steakhouse in Tampa and Derek Jeter was there. It was

444
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: spring training, years and years ago, and he walked in

445
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: with about six of his guys and he had these guys.

446
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: He rolled with a couple of Yankees, couple just like

447
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: high school buddies, college buddies, whatever, or I don't think

448
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: he went to college now he's Kalamazoi went to the

449
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: miners and so I remember reading a story about Derek,

450
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: and Derek said, you know, I try to stay around

451
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: positive people because there's no rule for negativity or cynicism,

452
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: because it gets into my head. And I remember somebody

453
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: wants to ask Jeter, when you're in a slump, which

454
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: you've had very few what do you think about? And

455
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: he said, all I just think about is hit the

456
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: ball hard, be positive. And so you always hear the

457
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 1: business axiom like don't surround yourself with yes man, And

458
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta be honest. I don't like hanging

459
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: out with disagreeable people. I agree with most of my

460
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: friends and they say nice things to me, and I

461
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 1: say nice things to them. But as an Ohio guy,

462
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: you want to keep it real. You want to be authentic.

463
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: But stuff gets upstairs. Man, I've gone to enough therapy

464
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: in my life. Negativity is a drain. Like what's the

465
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: balance for you? Your shit talking buddies are still part

466
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: of your life, but like, you've got to be in

467
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: the right mental space, Joe, you're literally the face of

468
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: a multi billion dollar corporation. Yeah, that's why I try

469
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: to exude as much confidence as I can. You know,

470
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: Clothing on the field press conference because sometimes you gotta

471
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: trick yourself into it. You know something, this stuff is

472
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: really really hard, and you know, we know the work

473
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: that we put in, but it's not always gonna go great.

474
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: And if you lose any confidence at any point, it's

475
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: just gonna snowball on you. And so you gotta sometimes

476
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: you gotta trick yourself into it and go out there

477
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: and say, maybe I'm not feeling great, but damn it,

478
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out and win this game. I'm gonna

479
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: play great. It's gonna be it's gonna be a great

480
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: day for us. And sometimes it's just like that, and

481
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: you know you will you need some negativity, you need

482
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: some people to tell you, hey, we need to do

483
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: this better, we need to do this better. But at

484
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: the same time, you know yourself and you know when

485
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: you have to tune that stuff out and just get

486
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: in your zone of confidence and I'm gonna go out

487
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: there and play the way that I play. Think about this.

488
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: I always think about cornerbacks. I thought Sauce Gardner was

489
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: the best college player I saw last year. So he's

490
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: just as you saw this weekend, like he's a complete baller.

491
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: Think about being a corner where it is a great

492
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: day if you only give up six catches to Jamar Ches.

493
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that position is all confidence. So what did

494
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: you see about Sauce Gardner on film in person? Because

495
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: I think he's got some Dion stuff working. Yeah, it was,

496
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's just two games. It was tough to

497
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: see on film a little bit, but then you get

498
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: out there and play him and you're like, oh, this

499
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: guy's big, long and fast. You know, there was a

500
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: through a go route to Jamar and his recovery speed

501
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: on that was pretty unbelievable. And so he's just gonna

502
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: keep getting better. I told him, I know, I talked

503
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: to him after the game. I said, hey, you're gonna

504
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: be great man. He's a big, physical, talented corner that

505
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: he's just gonna keep getting better. I mean, he's a

506
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: rookie and he's gonna be fun to watch. You know.

507
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: I was talking about this with the staff today. So

508
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: not that you care. But the reason my show is

509
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: called The Herd is because years ago I worked out

510
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: of college. I got a job of the minor league

511
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: baseball team doing an inning of play by play in sales.

512
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: So they hired me out of Eastern Washington university and

513
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: they let me do one inning of play by play,

514
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: but I had to do sales all day long, which sucks.

515
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: So the guy who was ran the team could never

516
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: remember my you know, he just like Cole a cow

517
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: and so he just called me heard Heard Heard. So

518
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: years later, I get into radio and I noticed that

519
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: all the radio people that you know, stern oprah Imus,

520
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: Seacrest or whatever, everybody had one name. So I thought heard.

521
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: So I went and looked at your nicknames, and you

522
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: got to explain a couple. So I okay, So generationally,

523
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: Joe schisty, what does that means? Somebody had posted a

524
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: video some kind of highlight last year and it just

525
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: kind of I took off. Um, that was crazy. I mean,

526
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: there's some people who just come up with all these

527
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: out of the blue. It's pretty People always ask me

528
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: which ones are my favorite. I'm like, that's not for

529
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: me to decide. That's for you guys to decide. You

530
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: make the nicknames. I'm not calling myself that. I'm not

531
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: running out calling myself like making a dinner reservation. It's

532
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: mister shysty. Nobody's doing that. So I didn't know what

533
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: shicety means. Does it mean anything. I don't think it

534
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: really does. I think it's just uh, there's a rapper

535
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: named Pooh Shicty Um. Okay, yeah, maybe it's off of that.

536
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, Joe burr Um. That one I think

537
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: came after I like to wear a little jewelry every

538
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: now and then. Um, and so maybe I had some

539
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: diamonds on that day. I don't know. Ah, some ice. Yeah,

540
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: there you go, thank you, thank you. I literally got

541
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: credibility on this entire podcast on knowing what ice means.

542
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: I know one time Joey Taylor on my show, this

543
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: was like three years ago, use lit and I said,

544
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: I'd like to use that in a conversation today. And

545
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: the pathetic thing was I must have used it seven

546
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: times day. My wife's like, you sound like such an idiot,

547
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you learn a word. I can't help myself.

548
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: So for the record, I don't have I have one

549
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: piece of jewelry. It's I got this in Italy. What

550
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: is the line on cool and too Much? Yeah? Like,

551
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: what's your line? There's definitely a line and you know

552
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: it when you see it. It's hard to describe, but

553
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: I would say six or seven chains is probably too much. Okay,

554
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: one or two key subtle not I don't like to

555
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: wear it if it's gonna pop and it's gonna, you know,

556
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: take away from the outfit that I'm wearing. But somebody

557
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: notices it, like, oh, that's cool. So there's definitely a line.

558
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: So there was a moment. I really liked Jimmy Garoppolo.

559
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: I think the media doesn't understand how hard this stuff is.

560
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: So Garoppolo had they took the playbook from him because

561
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: they wanted Trey Lance to play. He didn't practice, he

562
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: was off to the side, he had shoulder surgery, he

563
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: didn't take a stamp in preseason, he didn't play week one,

564
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: he didn't start Week two, and he opens up at

565
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 1: Denver in that altitude against Randy Gregory Bradley cho It's like,

566
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: come on. The kid admitted after the game, he's like,

567
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm just out of sorts. So he had a moment

568
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: when he stepped out of the end zone and I'm like,

569
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: I didn't. It's just like the game's going. Fans have

570
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: no idea what it's like to be in a stadium.

571
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: But Dan Orlovsky was literally half the way through it,

572
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: and that was kind of comedic. But has there ever

573
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: been a moment for you? I mean, Jesus, super Bowl Lights,

574
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: AFC Championship. Have you ever sort of like looked at

575
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: film a week later and thought, I kind of lose

576
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: myself the spacing you get turned around in a sack,

577
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: you get spun around. Because I looked at Garoppolo and

578
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm surprised it doesn't happen like weekly in

579
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: this league, especially when you're in the back. Hella Punter

580
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: kicked a ball into a guy's butt, Like, I get it.

581
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: It's have you ever lost yourself in a game? You know?

582
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: I like to think my spatial awareness is one of

583
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: my better qualities as a quarterback. I've definitely lost track

584
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: of the clock. We had two delay games on Sunday.

585
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: And what happens when you lose? What tell me what

586
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: happens there? Well, you know, you're surveying the defense, they're

587
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: giving you a different look. You're trying to get the

588
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: protection sorted out. Maybe a receiver lined up in the

589
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: wrong split, so you got to get that figured out.

590
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: And then you look at the clock. That's three seconds left.

591
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: There's no time to snap the ball. You're trying to

592
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: get it snapped. But you're on the silent came and

593
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: so that's you know, you gotta do. I mean, that's

594
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: part of the job. You gotta get everything organized, you

595
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: gotta know what everybody's doing, and so you gotta get

596
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: it all figured out, and then you got to get

597
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: it all done in forty seconds, sometimes twenty five. That's

598
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: part of the job. I called I called a timeout

599
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: when we didn't have a timeout in AU basketball one time,

600
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: it lost us to the game. That was pretty devastating.

601
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: Oh brutal. Yeah, um, yeah, that's the first one that

602
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: comes to mind there. That was tough. By the way,

603
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: Brady didn't get a playoff this weekend. Caleb Williams at

604
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: USC couldn't get a playoff. Again. I just don't think

605
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: the audience has any ideas. So you basically come out,

606
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: the first thing you're looking at is where they're lined up.

607
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: Then you have to call a protection. You're playing with

608
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: twenty four year old kids. Somebody's lined up wrong. Half

609
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 1: the time, you already have the play. Does anybody talk

610
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: to you during that sequence from the sideline so the

611
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: helmet cuts off at fifteen seconds, you get the play,

612
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes you're trying to figure out if

613
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: you want to challenge the play before. So maybe you

614
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: have the play, but you're not breaking the huddle quite yet,

615
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: so you don't know if you're going to run that play.

616
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, it's down to twenty seconds.

617
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: You can't get anymore feedback from the coach. Sometimes the

618
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: headset goes out. The headset went out in the playoff

619
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: game against the Titans. For a whole series. We in

620
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: a two minute We didn't have a time out to

621
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: get to the sideline and change helmets, and so you

622
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: have I had to call the whole series. Sometimes that's

623
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: what being quarterbacks about. It's about minimizing mistakes and just

624
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: making it work when everything around you is going poorly. Yeah,

625
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: are you still ever fooled by a pre snap movement

626
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: all the time? I mean we had an unscouted look.

627
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: I mean you, when you're as explosive as we are

628
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: on offense, you're going to get unscouted looks every single week.

629
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: And so you get to the line and you're like,

630
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: I've never seen this off film before. What in the

631
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: world is this? And so you try to get through

632
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: that play and try to find a completion or try

633
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: to minimize that mistake, and then you go off to

634
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: the sideline, look at the pictures, talk to the coaches

635
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: about it. Then you're gonna have an answer to it

636
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: next time. But you know, defensive coordinators are really really

637
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Speaker 1: good at what they do, and defensive players are really

638
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: really good at what they do, and so they're always

639
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: going to have wrinkles to what they've shown on film.

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Speaker 1: If they bring this blitz out of this look, then

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Speaker 1: they're going to drop out of it the next time.

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Speaker 1: They always have a compliment to what they've shown on film,

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Speaker 1: and then they always come in with one or two

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Speaker 1: wrinkles that you haven't seen before. You have to handle

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Speaker 1: on the fly. Did the Jets talk or they chatty?

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Speaker 1: Are some teams chattier? Division games are usually a lot

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Speaker 1: more chatty. Non division Baltimore feels chatty to me. Baltimore's chatty.

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is sometimes Browns are very chatty, So I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't think i've had any. Usually non division games

650
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: aren't as intense and trash talking. Isn't that crazy I've heard?

651
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Speaker 1: I've heard. Peyton Manning told me two weeks ago, he goes,

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Speaker 1: there's preseason speed, regular season speed, Division game speed, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like really, He's like, oh, yeah, so you a

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Speaker 1: Raven's game is different. Yeah, You've just played them so much.

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Speaker 1: You know all their looks, you know their calls, and

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Speaker 1: so you know coming in they're gonna have a wrinkle

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00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: for me that I'm not gonna expect, and they might

658
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: get you a couple of times, and sometimes you're they

659
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: know all your signals, so you got to come up

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00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: with new signals that week because you've played them six

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00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: times over the last three years, and they just have

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00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: so much film on you. And you've played these same

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00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: players three years straight and so you have history with them.

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Speaker 1: It's just the division games have a different feeling. Do

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Speaker 1: you like them more? Though? I do? I do? You know,

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Speaker 1: I always enjoy the ultruck competitive parts of the game.

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Speaker 1: And when you get sacked by the same guy that

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Speaker 1: you got sacked by last year and you got a

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Speaker 1: couple of words for you, that gets your fire going

670
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Speaker 1: and that reminds you why why you play the game,

671
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: because you know, throughout the week, all the media it

672
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: can kind of get overwhelming sometimes and then you get

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00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: out there and you're in your zone and you're the

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00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: bullets are flying, You're like, oh, this is why I

675
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: do it. This is why we put in all the

676
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: work to come out here and make plays. And that's

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00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: why you see everybody dancing and celebrating after touchdowns and sacks,

678
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: because there's so much work that goes into it, and

679
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: it's so hard, and there's so much attention on every

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00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: game and you go out and make a play, you

681
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: want to celebrate that, and so that's that's always exciting

682
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: when you see guys excited to make a play and

683
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 1: their teammates excited for them. All right. Finally, let's circle

684
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: back to the temper, the Brady, the Dorsey. I don't

685
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: think I have a huge temper. And then like once

686
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: a month, there'll just be something that will you know,

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00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: my kids will do something and I'll be like, oh

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00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: my god, they've done this ten times. Have you ever

689
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: just lost it? Just come on glued with a coach

690
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 1: and just to practice a bad route. When's the last

691
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: time you lost it? There were some intense conversations on

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00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: the sideline against the Chiefs last year in the AFC

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Speaker 1: Championship game. Um, do tell well, there was you know,

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00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: sometimes you go to the line with two plays. You

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00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: gotta get to one based off the look, and they

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00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: gave us a look that you know, it was a

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00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: little murky, and my decision was probably not the right one,

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Speaker 1: but I felt it was at the time, and so

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna try not to show it with

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Speaker 1: my body language. But conversation got a little heated. That's

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Speaker 1: probably that's the only time since I've been in the

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Speaker 1: NFL and that's happened. But you know, we got great

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Speaker 1: coaches that understand it gets a little intense out there sometimes.

704
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: So Zach got in your grill. Yeah, he'll get in

705
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: there every now and then. I know he looks like

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00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: he would honestly some guys. I've heard Andy Reid barks

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00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: and he looks so jovial. But I've heard Andy can

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Speaker 1: really But I always I remember I had my best

709
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Speaker 1: high school basketball coach. I like to be I like

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Speaker 1: to be coached hard. I'd rather somebody just be authentic

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00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: and ream me so like it's I tell my daughter

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Speaker 1: this all the time, is if you're sad, be sad.

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Speaker 1: So I know you're sad, you're authentic, Like it's okay, Like,

714
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Speaker 1: don't try to fool me. Glass half full stuff like,

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Speaker 1: I would rather have somebody, But I've had bars's bark

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Speaker 1: at me and it's like an hour later, I'm like, oh,

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00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: just cleared the air. I'm not a passive aggressive guy,

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00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: so I just don't have it in me. So I

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00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: really like there's parts of anger that I find fascinating.

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Speaker 1: And I've been yelled at. I don't it doesn't The

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00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: key is it when you get yelled at, is to

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Speaker 1: get over yourself. Nobody's yelling at because they want to, Like,

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Speaker 1: they're yelling at because they're piss because you screwed up.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not a grudge holder. You're probably not much

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Speaker 1: of a grudge holder. No, not at all. I've got

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Speaker 1: several things that I could have held grudge for in

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00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 1: the past and we're all good now. But like I said,

728
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: intensity is a part of the game. And so you know,

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00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: we've got a great coaching staff that understands how to

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Speaker 1: coach people. They're very calm in the moment, but sometimes

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Speaker 1: it gets intense, and the players in the locker room

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00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: understand that if a coach is yelling, actually he's not

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Speaker 1: doing it because he thinks you're a bad person. He's

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Speaker 1: doing it because you probably messed up and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: come back. And when you make a great play, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna love on you and tell you how great you are.

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Speaker 1: I think the best coaches know how to they know

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Speaker 1: each player and how they can talk to him every

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Speaker 1: single player. You know, maybe you can yell at this

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00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: guy and he's gonna respond, But maybe this other guy,

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00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: if you yell at him, he's gonna shut down. He's

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00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: not gonna play as well. Right And as a leader,

743
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 1: as a quarterback, you have to understand that as well.

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00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: You know, maybe this offensive lineman needs a little kick

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00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: in the butt sometimes, and this other guy you got

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Speaker 1: to tell him how great he is and tell him

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00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: it's okay if he makes a mistake. And that's part

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Speaker 1: of being a coach as well as a quarterback. Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: We're done. Congrats, buddy, short week, Miami at home feels great.

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Speaker 1: Smiles evident. Good seeing you, Yes, sir, you too. The volume.

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