1 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dungks 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, October ninth, twenty 3 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: twenty four. I'm Jay Skeets here in the Classic Factory 4 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: and alongside me, as always task. 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: Millie podcast listeners, this is for you. 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: Next to him, we got the Bearded One, a top 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: shot boy, Trick Kirby, Hey, hey yo, and over Yonder 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: making the magic happen for twenty years now Super producer. 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: Jd please kill me, Come on, jkjk Asthmond, Well, yeah, 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: it's twenty twenties. 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, we have that's what both. 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 3: You got twenty years for the next two and a 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 3: half years, it's twenty We. 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: Had a camera problem off the top and you bring 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: that up man. 16 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: On today's podcast, we're looking at the NBA win totals 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: for all fifteen Eastern Conference teams. We tackled the Eastern 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: Conference on Monday. That pod it's up everywhere. It's on YouTube, 19 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: it's on Apple, it's on Spotify. So go check that 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: out if you haven't already, and like and subscribe and 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: leave your boys. The five star ratings and reviews. Had 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: a lot of fun doing our over under predictions when 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: it came to the East, but we do the West today. 24 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: At the end, we'll each pick our three locks, but 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: we'll go through every team. Let's start with the Pacific Division. 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: We'll show you all them there in the Pacific the 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: over underwin totals courtesy of our good friends at bet 28 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: MGM Golden State Warriors forty three and a half, Clippers 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: forty and a half, Lakers forty three and a half, 30 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: Suns forty seven and a half, and the Kings at 31 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: forty six and a half, sort of all clumped together 32 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: here in the Pacific Division. But let's start with the 33 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: Dubs again, forty three and a half. That's their over 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: underwin total last year, forty six and thirty six. But 35 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: they got bounced at home by twenty four points by 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: the Kings. In the playing game, I'd sort of forgotten 37 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: it went that poorly re signed Steph Curry, added Kyle Anderson, 38 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: Buddy Heel, the Anthony Melton, Lyndy Waters the third great name. 39 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: He's already hit a game winner, that's right. 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: Lost Klay Thompson to the MAVs, lost Chris Paul to 41 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: the Spurs, and Dario Sarich to the Nuggets. What do 42 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: you think here of the Warriors? You know this team 43 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: that is sort of floating around that play in spots here, 44 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: can they hit over forty three and a half wins? 45 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: Well? He brought up forty six and thirty six, And 46 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: I think that's the puzzling part for people out there. 47 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: Why should this team be that much worse forty three 48 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: and a half. And that's why I'm taking the over. 49 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: I think last year they were a middle of the 50 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: pack defensive team amongst all that drama that they had. 51 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: They won't have that drama this year, I don't think. 52 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: I think they got a heck of a lot better 53 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: with their defense and support players, primarilyd Anthony Melton will 54 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 2: be starting beside Stephen Curry. D Anthony Melton, I think 55 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: the least talked about solid player in the NBA. He's 56 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: just gonna be good. There's just gonna be a bunch 57 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: of guys that aren't causing problems. All right. So we've 58 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: got Jonathan Kaminga another year of him, Brandon Pajemski another 59 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: year of him. We know that Trace Jackson Davis will 60 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: be starting over Kevon Looney. We know that Klay Thompson 61 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: drama won't be there this year. You kind of know 62 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: who you're going with. Kyle Anderson's gonna be playing the 63 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: back up five. His dreamon Green told him he's gonna play. 64 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: You're playing the backup five, man. I think we're getting 65 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: a breakout season for Andrew Wigains, that bounce backer. I 66 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: know it's hard to say for everybody out there, just 67 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: like it was hard for me to say right now, 68 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: it's hard for everybody to say that he will have 69 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: a better season. But he's in shape. He had a 70 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: weird summer where he was supposed to play for Team Canada, 71 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: then he wasn't allowed to play. But anyways, he looks 72 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: great and he's probably playing for his dad, who he 73 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: lost last month. I think things will come together for him. 74 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: He's asked, how are you gonna be different? Well, on scoring, 75 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna score more than last year. 76 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 4: That's for sure. 77 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: He can't be worse at twenty nine years old. I 78 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: don't think he can be worse. I just think there's 79 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: less drama. Maybe Drel gets suspended again. He got suspended 80 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: for a long time last year, but they were still 81 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: like under five hundred when he was suspended, so I 82 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: just think they're just gonna be more stable. 83 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: That's all. 84 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: And I think, yeah, their offense all is going to 85 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: be there. They were a top ten offense last year. 86 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: Is that gonna get worse? No, they got Steph, they 87 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: got Draymond. I just think their defense, I think there's 88 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: gonna be way more stable this year. 89 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think, Titke? 90 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: I think a bounce back season would be huge for 91 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: the Warriors if Wiggins is able to play, because when 92 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: I look at this team, I. 93 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 4: Don't know who their second best player is. 94 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: If Steph Curry picks up two fouls in the first quarter, 95 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 3: who's scoring on this team? Who can create his own shot? 96 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: Get a bucket? Wiggins is probably the closest. I wonder 97 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 3: if they'll start Melton. I kind of think Pajemski is 98 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 3: a better player, more reliable as well, and clearly seems 99 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: to be part of the Warriors' future. Not to mention 100 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 3: they need to put more shooting on the court because 101 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 3: Wiggins he's not able to do it. Draymond has been 102 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: saying how much he likes playing next to centers and 103 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: how effective he can be as a help defender playing 104 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: next to a center, so if Wiggins isn't shooting threes, 105 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 3: if Dre obviously isn't going to be a shooter, Kevon Looney, 106 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: they're trying to stretch him out. They're letting them shoot 107 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: corner threes. But that guy ain't a shooter exactly. Trace 108 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 3: Jackson Davis isn't a shooter. Steph Curry can He's a 109 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: really great shooter, but they want to take ten threes 110 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: per game from Brandon Pajemski. 111 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 4: I don't know. 112 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 3: It just seems to me like this Warriors team needs 113 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 3: to make some moves. They don't really fit together all 114 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 3: that well. I would like to see Kminga start over Wiggins. 115 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: Good luck starting Kaminga next to Draymond and Looney or 116 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 3: Draymond and Trace Jackson Davis. There's just it's hard for 117 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: the Warriors to put two way players on the court. 118 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 3: It's hard for them to get offense on the court. 119 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: So we'll see what they do. I liked the players 120 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 3: they brought in, but I don't know. You know, they're 121 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 3: putting a lot on Klay Thompson's plate from last year. 122 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: They're saying this guy was bad for the vibes. He 123 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: was getting me me first shots. He definitely was. Things 124 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: weren't great there. Things weren't great the year prior because 125 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 3: it was Jordan Poole's fault. 126 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 4: So we'll see. Maybe the Warriors are just okay. 127 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: I think they can still hit the over here, but 128 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 3: I don't think that gonna get the forty six wins. 129 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 130 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: Tip of the cap to bet MGM and Vegas for 131 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: setting this line at forty three and a half. I 132 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: think if it was the same line as last year, 133 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will be going, ah, 134 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: that's probably an under, but they like dip it a 135 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: couple of games under and then you're right task you're 136 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: going what what Why couldn't they sort of at least 137 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: replicate last year's forty six win total if there is 138 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: more stability, if they can sort of pair the youth 139 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: movement with all the vets, even the new pieces coming 140 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: in Buddy Heald obviously as a shooter, Kylie Anderson as 141 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: a playmaker, and stuff like that, Like it makes sense. 142 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: So this one's a difficult one. Feels exactly in that spot, 143 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: that sweet spot between whatever forty two to forty six wins, 144 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: So it's like it's like a bit of a shrug 145 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, does Draymond get up to old Draymond 146 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: Green anticks and miss a stretch of the season. Is he, 147 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,679 Speaker 1: you know, play well and play behaved, doesn't cross the line? 148 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: I guess I go, I go over. I think I 149 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: guess we're all going over in the end. But it's 150 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: a just for me, and they're going to be to me. 151 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: They are going to be in the play sort of area. 152 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: A big reason why the over under number goes down 153 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: to is just how tough this division and conference are 154 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: as we saw in the projections there. If you're watching 155 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: the graphic, everybody's projected to have essentially a five hundred season. 156 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: That's the only division in the NBA where all five 157 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: teams are air quotes good. But the Western Conference is 158 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: the toughest Western Conference. Since we started doing this show. 159 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: Twenty years, twenty years, I've heard years have we ever had? 160 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: Have we ever had a year amongst those twenty years 161 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: where twelve teams are expected to be winning teams in 162 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: the Western Conference. I mean, you can call the Clippers 163 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: as a you know, a five hundred team, but those 164 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: are there's twelve of them, yea twelve of them. And 165 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: then the Jazz the Blazers and the Spurs. We're also 166 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: supposed to be good. We've never had that before. 167 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: It's loaded. 168 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: So I think there's going to be some unders as 169 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: we look at these stats, these numbers that are like, 170 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: you know, fifty win teams instead of fifty five win teams, 171 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: So you know, not under for the over under totals, 172 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: that's for sure. We'll just just more mediocre teams is 173 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: basically what you get, right. 174 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Western Conference is a lot harder than the 175 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: Eastern Conference doing over unders. Like, surely I will be 176 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: wrong on some stuff from the Eastern Conference, but you 177 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: look at the West and you're like, you can go 178 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: over fifteen just with how good teams are and how 179 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: closely the standings are going to end up being lunched. 180 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, tough stuff. 181 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think the Warriors, their team might be better, 182 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: but they're still going to win fewer games. 183 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: Weird stuff, very weird. 184 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: And do you think this team the Warriors are a 185 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: possibility to be active in trying to move guys obviously, 186 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: like Wiggins could be one of those guys that they 187 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: want to look to move. Yeah, but what about other 188 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: pieces and stuff. 189 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 4: Like they need to make a trade they're not good enough. 190 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 3: I mean, they've got Steph Curry signed through the end 191 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: of his career, and they don't want to be a 192 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: ten seed for the end of his career. So I 193 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: don't know exactly who that player could be. Brandon Ingram 194 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: I suppose as a name that's still out there. 195 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 4: The fact that they. 196 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 3: Haven't done a deal yet with Kaminga makes you think 197 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: maybe he's a guy that could be on the way out. 198 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 3: I don't personally think they should trade him, but if 199 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 3: the Warriors want to actually try and do anything in 200 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: the postseason for the rest of Curry's career, they need 201 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: to get an actual number two score. 202 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: Yea. Kaminga's extension is up later this month, and so 203 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: he could be signed, that's for sure. I wonder if 204 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: that's drama if they don't sign him, but they obviously 205 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 2: want somebody better. They talk about it now. Draymond Green said, yeah, 206 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: I was trying to get Paul George on this team 207 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: this past summer. He was calling trying to get him. 208 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 2: They tried to get Larry markin, and they tried to 209 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: get better. The weird thing is they wouldn't give up 210 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: Brandon Pajemski, who is obviously a very good player, but 211 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: it just doesn't seem like you're going to get anybody 212 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 2: incredible if you're not willing to give up you're a 213 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: young player. 214 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe Draymond Green is the guy that ultimately 215 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: is the guy that gets traded for said other star player. 216 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: I know he's such a part of their DNA, and 217 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: it seems weird to think of that team, especially as 218 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: Steph Curry Warriors team without Draymond Green and how they 219 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: worked one two and how he is defensively. But I 220 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: think that's possible. I think it's all because you just 221 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: have the whole Clay finally gone. Is this the slow 222 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: rebuild or tear down of your guys that got you 223 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: all those championships? Maybe he might. 224 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: Have become a minority owner on this team. I mean 225 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: he's talking about like, I want to know what this team. 226 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: I'm totally making that up. He's not putting down an offer, 227 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: but he's basically saying, I want to know how good 228 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: this team is going to be ten years from now. 229 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: He feels like he is, part, as you said, of 230 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: the DNA of this team, so they may not trade. 231 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe he's saving up one hundred and fifty 232 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: million dollars. 233 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: Let's go to the Clippers forty and a half. That's 234 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: the line I'm giving you, guys, because this one's actually 235 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: not on the board at BETMGM. It's in other spots. 236 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, about a five hundred season here, And a 237 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: big part of the reason it's not on the bet 238 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: MGM board is the Kawhi Leonard factor of it all. 239 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: You know, like I mean, is he going to play? 240 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: How much will he play? What's going on there? But 241 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: they went fifty one and thirty one last year. They 242 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: lost to the MAVs in the first round. Of course, 243 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: Kawhi got injured. That was year five of the Kawhi 244 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: Paul George Clippers experiment. It didn't produce a single trip 245 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: to the NBA Finals. Paul George goes to the Sixers 246 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: in the offseason. Plumbley's gone, Daniel Tice, Russell Westbrook. They 247 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: added Derek Jones Junior, but two done, Kevin Porter junior, Mobamba, 248 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: and re signed James Harden and Zubots. This one's tough, obviously, 249 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: TK will start with you with the Kahi factor here, 250 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: but are you leaning over under forty and a half? 251 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, That's what it was a mystery to me. There's 252 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 3: only twelve hundred and thirty wins available in the NBA, 253 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: so there just weren't enough wins left over for me 254 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 3: for the Clippers to go anything basically but under, especially 255 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: with a line set at forty and a half like 256 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: I added up all the bed MGM lines and for 257 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 3: a while was just question marks for the Clippers and 258 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: the only available wins left were twenty one and a half. 259 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: I would have been over on that right, but something 260 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: in the forties, I can't do it. I only have 261 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 3: thirty two wins left when I did all of the 262 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: other twenty nine teams. Basically, what the Clippers did is 263 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 3: traded Paul George for Derek Jones Junior. I mean, it's 264 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: cool that they got, but to him back. He could 265 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: be helpful, Kevin Porter Junior. He might be a scorer 266 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 3: off the bench, which would be helpful. But I'm not 267 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: expecting a lot from him, or from Chris Dunn or 268 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: from mobamb. But it's basically, Derek Jones Junior is going 269 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 3: to be a big part of this team. I gotta 270 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: say it's skeets. James Harden looks good. 271 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: Oh, Kyle. 272 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 4: He is in shape. He's going to carry this team. 273 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 3: He's a system, he is an offense, and they're gonna 274 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: need him to be an offense. I guess some of 275 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 3: the good news is that are at least talking like 276 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard will be ready for Opening Night, you know, 277 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: so not an extended absence to start the season. But 278 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 3: they're gonna have to manage him because if the Clippers 279 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: want to make any noise in the postseason, if they 280 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: even make it to the postseason, Kuhi has got to 281 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,239 Speaker 3: be able to finish. Obviously, hasn't played a full postseason 282 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: in the past four years, so I'm a little skeptical 283 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: on that. I'm just this is not a team that 284 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: I can get that enthused about. But man, fifty one 285 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: wins last year, that was a shocker to me. There's 286 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: a few of these in the Western Conference here are 287 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,599 Speaker 3: like they're won that many games, and fifty one was 288 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: a surpriser. 289 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. And what's also shocker is that the last thirteen 290 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: seasons the Clippers have had a winning record. That's remarkable. 291 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: Lawrence frank is proud I heard. I would have never 292 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: guessed that thirteen straight seasons the longest streak currently in 293 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: the NBA would come to an end on the year 294 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 2: that they get a new stadium as well. That would 295 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: be extremely weird. You'd think that shedding the Lakers stadium 296 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 2: would help them just a little bit. No more afternoon 297 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: games like they had last year, just because they don't 298 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: have to go up against the Lakers. They're five and 299 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: five in those games, but they were to get down 300 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: double digits because they're sleeping going into those games. They're 301 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: down double digits in every single one of those games, like. 302 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: Those weekend afternoon games. 303 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's ten of them, actually, yeah, And they don't 304 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: have to do that anymore. They do not have any 305 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: more afternoon games. Had ten last year and no more 306 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 2: this season. Will that help? That was Kawhi Leonard out. 307 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 2: I don't think I know. James Harden is basically saying, look, 308 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: this it's my team. You saw what Luka Dantrich did. 309 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: A guy that plays like me, he got to the finals. 310 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna do. And James Artn's good for 311 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: the regular season. He's damn good for the season. Every 312 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: possession will be run through him. With Kawhi out and 313 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: like hard and said we need him later in the year. 314 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: That's when we name him. When we need him, he said, 315 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: quote whenever Why is ready, why we'll join the team. 316 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 2: Why so exactly feels weird to call him why Imo, 317 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: But you know you're gonna have Leonard sit down, Derek 318 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: Jones Jr. Totally come in. Norman Powell, I think will 319 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: be the other starter besides Derrek, Joe Junior, to go 320 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: with Harden, Terrence Mann and Zubats. You're buying into that 321 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: in a five hundred team in this tough West, not me, 322 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: I go on here, It's just it's somebody's got to lose. 323 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: I mean, these these numbers, these over unders, as you said, trade, 324 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: they all have to add up to twelve hundred and thirty. 325 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: They all have to have twelve hundred and thirty wins. 326 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: So we're saying here with this Clippers team, it's literally 327 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: the twelfth worst over under number in the Western Conference. 328 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: So either you know, numbers drop from the Eastern Conference, 329 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 2: which could happen, or these teams at the bottom of 330 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: the West are terrible, or you just get some of 331 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: the you know, one, two, three, four seeds in the 332 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: West are like, you know, more like forty eight, forty 333 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: nine win teams. I don't know. I just think the 334 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: Clippers they're dropping. 335 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm with you, guys, because I can't bank or trust. 336 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: Of course, not only Kawhi Leonard playing being healthy for 337 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: a majority of the season, which he was last year. 338 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean that's a big part why they got to 339 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: fifty one wins. I mean he played a good chunk 340 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: of it, and then obviously untimely goes out with the 341 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: injury near the end of the regular season into the postseason. 342 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: But also, okay, so we're running everything through James Harden. 343 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: He's talking a big game. He's like, look at you 344 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: see Luca. He took his team to the finals. I 345 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: created that. This is me. Okay, one, that's been a while, James. 346 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: It's been a couple of years since Harden MVP, you know, 347 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: helio centric offense through him. It was big enough twenty eighteen. 348 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 4: We still work for NBA TV, right. 349 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: And the other thing is he's thirty five years old. Like, 350 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm terrified this team forget Kawhi for a second. 351 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: One. 352 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: James Harden injury and it's like, oh, like that bumps 353 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: him out for a couple of weeks or months. I'm like, 354 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: then it gets really dicey, really quick to me, I'm 355 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: going under. I guess the counter to that is, well, 356 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,359 Speaker 1: they're not gonna tank, don't they have like a pickup 357 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: with Okay, see, so there's no reason to really do that. 358 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: So you know there's the potential there, unlikely anyway, But 359 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: I just I have no faith in this team. I 360 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: think this season's all going to be all about all 361 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: the toilets in the into it Dome, yeap and the 362 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: wall and look at that halo board New Jersey and 363 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: honestly might be enough for this season at least. I 364 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: know you don't want to go into a new stadium 365 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: and like put up a thirty win season, especially when 366 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: you have a better roster than that. But I'm scared 367 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: of the squad staying healthy and being confident enough against 368 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: all these other good teams. There's just so many other 369 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: teams I have trust in in the Western Conference than 370 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: the clubs. 371 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially with Kawhi Leonard, he's sounding like Joel 372 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: Embiid where he's saying I got to be good for 373 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: the playoffs, and he's talking about it in every single interview. 374 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: You know, I played a lot last season, but I 375 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: got to be good for the playoffs, and he basically 376 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: said to our man law Murray on the Athletic I'm 377 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: going to see if playing in all those games last 378 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: year is going to hurt me this season. So it 379 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: ain't no guarantee that he's coming back. He doesn't feel like. 380 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: It's like years running man. 381 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah with this, Yeah, but last year he did play 382 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: a team four team sixty eight games and they won 383 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: fifty games. I mean that's different this year. This year's 384 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: basically saying I gotta good for the playoffs. It sounded 385 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: like Joel and bead like how many games does he play? 386 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: You know, it sucks talking about that, But then you 387 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: just started to look at James, just like Trey said, 388 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 2: the bad looks good. 389 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 4: Now he looks good. He looks easy in shape. 390 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: It was a couple of years ago. Yeah, it was 391 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. It was the twenty two playoffs. 392 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 2: I guess where he had forty in the playoffs against 393 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: you know, playing with Joel Embiid. It wasn't that long ago. 394 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 4: Good, No, but throwback, throw back, big big heart season. 395 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: I think he definitely still has massive games in him 396 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: in the regular season, maybe even postseason if they get there. 397 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 1: It's the consistency and obviously at his age, I mean, 398 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: you're asking a lot, I think at this point from him. 399 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: But he sounds happy. He sounds like, all right, yeah, 400 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: I think it's a mad stats here on this. 401 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: Still, let's go. 402 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 2: Let's go all right, that fake the ball, fake move 403 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: into his side step. That was nice. So I don't 404 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: I don't remember seeing that. 405 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what you're talking Hartman. Vince moves in the preseason. 406 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 4: They never does them in the regular season. 407 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 3: Remember he was doing the behind the back step back like, 408 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 3: oh magine, he does this in a game. 409 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 2: Never took one. 410 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: Let's go to the Lakers forty three and a half. 411 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: They went forty seven and thirty five last year. They 412 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: beat the Pels in the playing game. They lost to 413 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: the Nuggets in the first round. They were really average 414 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. Offensive rating, defensive rating 415 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: fifteenth and seventeenth, respectively. You did get all NBA seasons 416 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: from Lebron and Anthony Davis, but again not enough to 417 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: lift the Lakers past the first round. So they resigned 418 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: Lebron Max Christy as well. They got coach JJ Redick 419 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: in here now, Darvin Ham and his head is out, 420 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: Christian Coloco coming from the Raps. He's one of their additions. 421 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: Dalton connect number seventeenth pick. Obviously Brownie James with the 422 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: number fifty fifth pick. They lost Dinwiddie, Torrian Prince and 423 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: that's about it. I mean, he's not a ton of 424 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: movement like the coach was. The big swamp here for 425 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: the Lakers, what do you think TK forty three and 426 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: a half? You know, just like the Warriors, you're going 427 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: over like you did Golden State or. 428 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: Under forty seven wins last year, they're winning fewer, they're 429 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: still going over. Give me forty four for the Lakers 430 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: and for the Warriors. The question I have really for 431 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: the Lakers is can they be good at anything? Last 432 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 3: year they were mid at everything, fifteenth in offense, sixteenth 433 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 3: in defense, equals nineteenth and net rating, and then they 434 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 3: did nothing in the offseason besides bringing in JJ Reddick. 435 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: He wants them to shoot more threes. They don't necessarily 436 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: have the shooters to shoot more threes. I don't think 437 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: they're still going to shoot a lot of free throws. 438 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 3: That's what the Lakers are the best at. They get 439 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: good calls. Lebron is aggressive, going to the hoop. Anthony 440 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 3: Davis aggressive inside as well. Austin Reeves, he draws a 441 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 3: whole bunch of fouls. Post elimination. Last year, the Lakers 442 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: were talking all about how we didn't have health. We 443 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 3: didn't have health. They got seventy six games from AD, 444 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: seventy one from Lebron, eighty two from Reeves, and seventy 445 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 3: six from Dlo. Those guys played a ton and it 446 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: was basically DiAngelo Russell getting hot in the second half 447 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 3: of the season that a kept him in Los Angeles 448 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 3: and be really helped out the Lake giving him giving 449 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 3: them some perimeter scoring. So I think the fact that 450 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: they're just basically bringing everybody back and having JJ Reddick 451 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: say we're going to take five or six more threes 452 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 3: doesn't change the team all that much. They're a team 453 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 3: that you're not gonna want to play against in the 454 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 3: playoffs because we know Lebron and AD can really elevate 455 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 3: their games. There might be a little Lakers dust that 456 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 3: the officials are having to deal with as well, but 457 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 3: I don't really think this is a team that is 458 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: in the mix for a championship or anything like that. 459 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: They're in the bottom half of the playoff bracket for 460 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: the Western Conference. 461 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, the buzz there in training camp for the Lakers, 462 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: and like now going into the preseason, the idea is, 463 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: like Reddick's talking about, we want to use ad as 464 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: more like of a playmaking hub, right hub, get him 465 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: at the elbows, get him at the three point arc, 466 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: and like sort of operate through Anthony Davis a little 467 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: bit more. I roll my eyes at that a little bit. 468 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: It's like you got Lebron James, Like, come on, the 469 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: ball is going to go through Lebron as it probably 470 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: still should. But what have you thought about Reddick here 471 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: in obviously preseason and training camp, and do you have 472 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: hope tests in the Lakers hitting over forty three and 473 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: a half. 474 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: Yes, I have hope. I think they will. I think 475 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: what Reddick is doing well is he's communicating with the players. 476 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 2: The players didn't seem to love Darvin Hamlin. The good 477 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: thing that JJ Reddick will do immediately from day one 478 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: is start their best five players that Darvin didn't do 479 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: to start last season. They they're starting Russell Reeves, obviously 480 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 2: Lebron a d and Ruy Ruy didn't start he was injured. 481 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: They're playing with these starting lineups. They're trying to figure 482 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 2: it out. They put Reeves to the bench. He's playing 483 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: those five and then he's telling everybody, you know, we 484 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: got to shoot those those threes. Will he get that 485 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 2: number up? I don't know. We've been talking about it 486 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: since Anthony Davis won the NBA Finals in twenty twenty 487 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 2: when he shot all those threes. Is he gonna shoot threes? 488 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: It didn't happen. Apparently JJ Reddick has been in his ear. 489 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 2: Davis said he's been on me all summer about shooting threes. 490 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: Darvin wanted that from last year. It didn't happen. He's 491 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: ruy is he thinks I'm a great three point shooter 492 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: and he believes it. Do you believe it? And so 493 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 2: the last year, like you were talking about Trey, where 494 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: the grinders, Jared Vanderbilt wasn't playing, Gave Vincent wasn't playing, 495 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 2: those injured guys. They seem to in preseason have some 496 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: more grinders. They signed Max Christy to a big, big contract, 497 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: and apparently JJ has been talking to him a lot, 498 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: and he could be the impact role player that they 499 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 2: didn't have last year because he's helping out. He's all 500 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: over the place. If you watch any of the preseason games, 501 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: he's bored and he's blocking shots, he's slashing, he's doing 502 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: everything out there. So he could be their six man 503 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: and then the Dalton connect. He could connect some people. 504 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: He's a dunker, he's finisher, he's a movement shooter. 505 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: He's pretty good. 506 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: And Reddick has told him, if you want to be 507 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 2: in the rotation, you got to be grinding. So he 508 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: Reddick is talking to everybody, Yeah, just play grinding on 509 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: the video board and everybody will be like, oh, yeah, 510 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: I gotta play hard. So I think Reddick is doing 511 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: a good job that mar Darvinham didn't seem to do 512 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 2: well anyways, that he lost the guys. 513 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 4: He lost the guys. 514 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you think Reddick's at least talking a good 515 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: game here of inspiring some of these guys. Hey, we 516 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: got ad, we got Lebron. We we're good and obviously 517 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: in this in the talent department, but we need all 518 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: the little things. Yeah, play defense, obviously, deflections, hit the glass, 519 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: stuff like that, and then actually hit a three. 520 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: Pass it and shoot those threes. I mean, some of 521 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: the players are nice, the horns that they're running, but 522 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: they set up threes that they clank like, I don't 523 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: know if they're gonna go down. It's they were twenty 524 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 2: fourth last year in terms of mad threes. It's what 525 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: they did. They didn't do it all that well. Yeah, 526 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 2: so I don't know, AD's gotta shoot more of them anything. 527 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 4: I don't know. 528 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I saw that quote too where he's talking 529 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 3: about JJ was in my ear. He's telling me at 530 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: the Olympics, shoot more threes. I was like, what he 531 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 3: took two threes in the Olympics. It's a shorter line, 532 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: So I don't think it's gonna happen. And also, Anthony 533 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 3: Davis is like unstoppable inside, so I would like him inside. 534 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, let's say it goes a poor, poor start 535 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: for the Lakers to start season, right, they're struggling. Who 536 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: will be? Like who'll be the scapegoat for the Lakers 537 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: this season? Heading it? Will it continue to be D'Angelo Russell? 538 00:23:59,040 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: Could? 539 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: Could it be? Obviously as a new coach, Appela like 540 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: what are you doing? 541 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 2: Wait? 542 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: Why do you got eighty shooting threes? Is there someone 543 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: I'm missing? 544 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: Who do you think Bronnie Bronni too much of a sideshow? 545 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 4: Oh, goodness. 546 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well I didn't think of that. She'sus poor kid. 547 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 3: Uh probably D'Angelo Russell. Yeah, you know, we've been skirting 548 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 3: around him being the scapegoat for a while. Like I said, 549 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: he kind of saved the season for the Lakers in 550 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 3: the middle third basically, So you know, he came to 551 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 3: his press conference at Media Days like surprise, surprise, I'm 552 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 3: still around. Oh yeah you are, and you're important for 553 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: the Lakers. So I think that's a possibility. And then 554 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 3: like Jared Vanderbilts already hurt, right, Yeah, so that'll be 555 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 3: another one. 556 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, these guys can't stay healthy, that's possibility. 557 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: So but you guys are both going over. Just to 558 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: just over it sounds like less. When's still over three 559 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: and a half, I'll go under. I'll go just under. 560 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: It sounds weird. I mean, I guess I'm banking a 561 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: little bit on, Like, Wow, that was a really good 562 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: season for Adie and Lebron playing a decent chunk of games. 563 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: Can they do it for a consecutive year in a row? 564 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: And then all these pieces and JJ, I feel like 565 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: I can't pick the Warriors and Lakers to both go 566 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: over forty three and a half. I have to pick 567 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: one to go under, I'll say Lakers, just under Sons 568 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: forty seven and a half. They went forty nine and 569 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: thirty three last year. Remember they were dominating the Minnesota 570 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: Timberwolves in the regular season. Had their number, got a 571 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: great matchup, convinced me to take him in the postseason, 572 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: and they got swept by the Wolves. They have the 573 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: priceiest trio right in the league and they came up 574 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: well short. So what did they do? They made a 575 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: coaching change, so you do in the NBA, it's not 576 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: the players's coach, but Mike Budenholzer in as head coach, 577 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: Vogel out. They also added Tyas Jones, e j Little, 578 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: Monte Morris the plumb Dog. They lost Drew Eubanks, Eric Gordon, 579 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: David the Body, Roddy, and they resigned a bunch of 580 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: guys like because they really sort of all they could 581 00:25:54,800 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: do bow Bowl Damian Lee, Josha Kogi, Royce O'Neill get 582 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: started forty seven and a half. Another one here where 583 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: it's less wins according to bet MGM. You know than 584 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: last year. But do you think the Suns with Bootenholz 585 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: are and maybe some you know, maybe some more stability 586 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: and a healthy Beal are going to hit the over first. 587 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: You made me aware of why I call hummers humdugs, 588 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 2: because we used to call plumby plum dog. Yeah. Seeing 589 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: all these humdogs out there, these EV's out there, yeah yeah, 590 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: they look neat Yeah ev humdog. Yeah. 591 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: Are you getting excited still when you see cyber trucks 592 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 1: around Atlanta? 593 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: Not as much. I sat in a humdog looks like 594 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 2: a hummer. Yeah, cyber truck looks like tin can. The 595 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: look is is too weird for me. I signed a 596 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: Hummer though. It didn't feel as big as it looks 597 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: from the outside, so it was nice. It was nicer anyways. Yeah, 598 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: I get that plum dog back. He's as good as 599 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: a humdog. What am I saying? What I'm saying is 600 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 2: that the Phoenix Suns are going over. I think because 601 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: they got a point guard. I think getting Tiles Jones matters. 602 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: I also picked the Phoenix Suns in the playoff against 603 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 2: minnesot Timberwolves. That wasn't good. What happened and every single 604 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: possession on offense was that they just weren't getting into 605 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: their place and Bradley Beal looked exhausted having to guard 606 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: the other team's pretty damn good defenders and playing point 607 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: guard on the other side, and he did look exhausted. 608 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 2: Will it help the Ty Jones out there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 609 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: I think so. I think Jones is playing for a 610 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: contract as well. And Mike Budenholzer, he does damn good 611 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: in regular seasons as a head coach. They just overachief 612 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 2: and so forty seven and a half it's high in 613 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: a weird way in this West, But I think they're 614 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: going to do it. I think Budenholzer is going to 615 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 2: get Ty Jones is getting again, Bill Booker and Durant 616 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 2: damn Like how if you get their shots where you're 617 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 2: supposed to get your shots, you're gonna be good. And 618 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: I think Mike Budenholzer is gonna get use of Nurkic 619 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 2: to shoot threes because centers under Budenholzer always shoot threes. 620 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: Looking back to the Hawks days, Dwayne Deadman will shoot threes, 621 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 2: Mike Muscala will shoot threes, Peril Antisch will shoot threes. 622 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: Everybody shoots threes. He's gonna shoot the most threes of 623 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 2: his career. And I based that a bit on some 624 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: of the videos in the in the offseason. But he 625 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: can shoot the three and SERVI looks good. He looks good. 626 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: He shot twenty two for ninety from three last season, 627 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: but forty three for one hundred and nineteen that's thirty 628 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: six percent clip the year before. Yeah, he's gonna be 629 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: out in his last year in Portland, so maybe he 630 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: can hit it and Boodenholezer, you're right, we'll probably encourage 631 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: him to let him fly. 632 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're going over, I'm going over. 633 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: Okay, the bud bump. He believes in it, at least 634 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: in the regular season. 635 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: About you, Treck Well, I was going over too until 636 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: Task told me that it's gonna be Tias Jones and 637 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: Yusef Nurkic leading the way for this team. I don't 638 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 3: know if I believe that. Well Urgage was solid last year. 639 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 3: He exceeded my expectations. He was pretty healthy, yeah, and 640 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 3: played pretty well. I still think center is a big 641 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 3: question mark for this team, But as long as Nurkic 642 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 3: is out there, that's good. 643 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 4: They need more shooting. 644 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: Outside the fifth and three point percentage, that's awesome, But 645 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 3: they were twenty fifth in attempts, so Nurkic taking some 646 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: more would be great, but in reality, it's Devin Booker 647 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 3: needs to take some more. Kevin Brant needs to take 648 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 3: some more. Good luck, he's in year eighteen. He loved 649 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 3: the pull up game. Bradley Beal What what's he doing? 650 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: Now? 651 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 4: Is Titus Jones actually going to start for this team? 652 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 3: Because then when I look at it, it's like Jones, Beal, Booker, 653 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 3: that's a pretty small backcourt. Nobody's necessarily a defender, though 654 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 3: Booker I think can elevate on that end a little bit. 655 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 3: Kevin Durants a really good player on the defensive end. 656 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: He's probably their best defensive player. So I just, I 657 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 3: just I'm not guaranteeing that Tias Jones is a starter here. 658 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 3: It seems like it to me, but I wonder long term. 659 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: But the thing with me is that a I do 660 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 3: love the Budenholzer. Addition, he will bake their offense more 661 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 3: modern looking. I think they always win in the regular season. 662 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: He has good defensive principles that he will have the 663 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: team stick to. That becomes a problem in the playoffs 664 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: when he's a little bit inflexible. And when Booker Duranton 665 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: Beal All started last year was only thirty nine games, 666 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: but they went twenty four and fifteen. That's a fifty 667 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 3: win pace. They were good when those three guys actually 668 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 3: played together, So I like it. I don't like that 669 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 3: Grayson Allen is now two hundred and thirty pounds. 670 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 4: That's messed up huge. Now. 671 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: This guy's like a knockdown three point shooter, and guess what, 672 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 3: I'm muscling up. Watch your heads, everybody. This guy's gonna 673 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: be knocking people out of the air left and right. 674 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 3: But I'm still over on the Suns. Maybe it's Team 675 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 3: USA inflected, but I love seeing Booker and Durant together, 676 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: and I love seeing all the dirty work Booker was doing. 677 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 3: So if he's able to tap into some of that 678 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 3: while still being one of the two best shooting guards 679 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 3: in the league, I love it. 680 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: Huge part is and he's sort of forgotten in the 681 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: NBA landscape because he was poor last year, and he 682 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: was like sort of easily forgot when he was playing 683 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: for the Wizards at the end of his career. There, 684 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: it's bial like he is good. He should shoot way 685 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: more threes, like he shot forty three percent from three 686 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: last year, but only like four attempts per game. Double that. Honestly, 687 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: he really should and Budenholzer will probably encourage him too. 688 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: He needs a bounce back here. He's got to be consistent, 689 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: he's got to stay healthy. And yeah, I'm with you 690 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: if they play. I mean, we're banking on these three 691 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: guys all playing at the same time. It's a part 692 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: of the equation. Though. I go over, I go over 693 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: if they're out there, and I like the Again, we 694 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: were looking at this team going what the hell are 695 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: they gonna do because they didn't have a lot of 696 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: wiggle room in terms of contracts that can hand out 697 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: guys they could bring in. God, they did pretty well 698 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 1: overall to like re sign some of those guys and 699 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: bring in at least two guys in Tias Jones and 700 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: Monte Morris that never turned the ball over. You know, 701 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: that's the one thing maybe really well. They run an 702 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: offense and they don't kill you, at least in terms 703 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: of giving it to the other team or taking shots 704 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,479 Speaker 1: that they probably shouldn't. So I'll go over, but probably 705 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: under the fifty win mark. Sacramento Kings is the final 706 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: team in the Pacific Division. Forty six and a half 707 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: is the line, which is a tiny bit more than 708 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: last year. They went forty six and thirty six, so 709 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: they're being, you know, possibly picked to win one more game, 710 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: lost to the Pelicans in the play in for the 711 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: final playoff spot, you know, so bounced in the play in. 712 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: They were they were sort of like the Lakers, sort 713 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: of average offensively, average defensively. And that's weird because you 714 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: had Dearon Fox having a career year. Sabonis was another 715 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,719 Speaker 1: All NBA guy for the second time in his career. 716 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: Monk was amazing, nearly one sixth Man of the Year. 717 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: Keegan Murray was pretty damn good. But the defense sort 718 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: of an issue again and that really held them back. 719 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: But they re signed Malik Monk and Alex lann They 720 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: added Demarta Rozen and Jalen McDaniels in trades. They signed 721 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: Jordan McLaughlin Orlando Robinson. They drafted Devin Carter but he 722 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: will not be playing, and they lost Harrison Barnes, Chris Duarte, 723 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: Davion Mitchell, Sasha Visit, how do you say his name? Zenkov? 724 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: He's not even in the league anymore, is it. No? 725 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: I saw on the NBA GM survey he was the 726 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 3: best player in your not nationally, not in the NBA. 727 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 4: I was like, no, he's not. I saw him in 728 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 4: the NBA. He couldn't do anything. 729 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's gone, get out of here. 730 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 4: I thought he said, nah, yeah, yeah, I'm playing for 731 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 4: this day. 732 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: He thought he'd be able to shoot. They just didn't 733 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: play him a lot in Sacramento. 734 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: And Kessler Edwards is also gone. So Sacramento King's forty 735 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: six and a half. 736 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: I'm going under it. It is Uh. Basically, I think 737 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: they may get the same record as last year in 738 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 2: this tough, tough West. I think that doesn't benefit them, 739 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 2: but also doesn't benefit them. Is they got thinner? I 740 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: mean they don't have as much depth. They went and 741 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 2: got Devin Carter, as you said, drafted him. He could 742 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: be a great player to do the grinding work, but 743 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: he's injured. As Monte McNair said, did you see the 744 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: NBA playoffs last year, there's a ton of Devin Carter's 745 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: out there. Unfortunately they don't have him. And by trading 746 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: all these guys UH to Toronto and losing some guys, 747 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: they're just they're not all that deep, and so there's 748 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: gonna be working move like these these these moving pieces 749 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: here with Tomatow Rosen where they kind of have to 750 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: figure out who they are, uh, and they'll probably be 751 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: again average on both ends. Will they be good offensively, yeah, 752 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 2: will they be average defensively yeah. I think it'll be 753 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: really similar to last year. I am looking forward to 754 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: watching how their offense works. Apparently Demantes Sibonus is shooting 755 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 2: threes in training. 756 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: Can everybody is shooting threes? 757 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 2: You got to, man, I think simonas Can especially. The 758 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: addition of Demato Rosen is why they're doing that, to 759 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: get a little more space for DeMar to work in 760 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 2: the mid range. So that makes sense. But the West 761 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 2: is just so ridiculous. You got to bring in this 762 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: new part. I think. Yeah, forty six thirty six is 763 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 2: a damn good season. 764 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: Do you think they're the best team in California? 765 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 2: The best team in California probably record wise? Okay, yeah, Okay, 766 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: that's gonna be close. That's all gonna. 767 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 3: I've got wins as well in the in California, California. 768 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 3: Like the beam I saw like a King's season ticket 769 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 3: holders got like an awesome little what's their Golden one 770 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 3: Center that's what it's called, right, And he has like 771 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 3: a little button, you press on it and it lights 772 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 3: up a beam it's on top of it looks really 773 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 3: really cool. 774 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 4: This looks like a. 775 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: Fun team, like they're gonna play in a bunch of 776 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 3: close games. And they got two great closers in de 777 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 3: Rozan and Fox, guys who are like finishing top three 778 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 3: in clutch points every single year since we've started tracking 779 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 3: that sort of thing. That droze fit is super interesting 780 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 3: to me because the Kings during the light the Beam era, 781 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 3: they've been all about ball movement. They're a top ten 782 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 3: assist team. The past couple of seasons, derozen As always 783 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 3: on a bottom ten assist team. The guy loves to dribble. 784 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 3: He's a good playmaker, but it takes a while to 785 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 3: get into the play making. I would actually like to 786 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 3: see the Kings play a little bit more like the 787 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 3: twenty two to twenty three season when they were the 788 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 3: best offense in the league and terrible on defense. I 789 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 3: think they're gonna be really bad on defense this year 790 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 3: because they're going to start Fox, Ellis, DeRozan, Murray, and Sabonis. 791 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 3: That's one defender, yeah, Ellis, Yes, I agree, he can defend, 792 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 3: but now he's going to have to defend up. He's 793 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 3: going to have to guard fors and he's going to 794 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 3: have to guard the best wing on the other team. 795 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 3: He's their best wing defender probably, but in the rankings 796 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 3: in the NBA, he's not a top twenty defender, so 797 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 3: I think that's going to be a problem. 798 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 4: But that's fine. Try and score more. 799 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 3: Your offense is going to be better now that you're 800 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 3: bringing into rows and gives you a little bit different 801 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 3: look than a guy like even and heard her who's 802 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 3: just gonna catch and shoot really fell off last year. 803 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 3: So I think they will play a ton of close games, 804 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 3: and if they're able to get the kind of performances 805 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 3: from Fox and DeRozan that those two guys have had 806 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 3: the past two or three seasons, they will probably exceed 807 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 3: like their net rating if they're expected wins. So I'm 808 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 3: going under here, but I think they're about the same 809 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 3: as last year. 810 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I agree one hundred percent with you guys. 811 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm just under. I think you could see the exact 812 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 1: same record from them forty six and thirty six. They're 813 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: gonna hope it means getting in if they have to 814 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: go through the play into the actual playoffs, But yeah, 815 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 1: We can't wait to see the end of games with them. 816 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: You know, Fox is amazing. DeRozan of course was incredible 817 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: when he was with the Bulls. And how will that work? 818 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: I mean, is it just double up their potency in 819 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: the clutch or do they like almost like uh oh, 820 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: how do we run this? 821 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 2: Now? 822 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: Who should be taking these shots and who should be operating? 823 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: But two of my favorite guys to watch and now 824 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: they're on the same team with the bonus Ls. Yeah, 825 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: obviously he has to bring it defensively. He has to play, 826 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: and he's got to be stopping the best sort of 827 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,479 Speaker 1: like remender guy on these all these Western Conference teams 828 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 1: that have all these all star level talent at those positions. 829 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: He has to at least sort of contain them. So 830 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: he is very important to their success. 831 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's starting from day one, unlike last year. Yeah, 832 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 2: where he started twenty games into the season it was 833 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 2: pretty late. So they have that and Fox has that 834 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 2: going for him beside him, you're taking the best guy, 835 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 2: and so it's like Beale and Phoenix, like he guarded 836 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 2: too many good players, and I think same goes for Fox. 837 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 2: I mean, Keon, it's your time and he's good at it. 838 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: Obviously, all right to the Northwest Division over unders. We 839 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: have the Nuggets at fifty one and a half, We 840 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: got the Wolves at fifty two and a half. We 841 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: got the Thunder at fifty six and a half. So 842 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,240 Speaker 1: three teams right there from the jump over fifty wins 843 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 1: from bet MGM and then the two sort of teams 844 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: that are expected to be among the worst in the 845 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: West Blazers at twenty two and a half and the 846 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: Jazz at twenty nine and a half. TK will start 847 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: with you Denver Nuggets again fifty one and a half. 848 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 1: They went fifty seven and twenty five last year, tied 849 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: for the best record really in the Western Conference. Didn't 850 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: get that number one seed. They lost to the Wolves, 851 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 1: though in the second round they blew a twenty point 852 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 1: leading Game seven. Still seems crazy to say that out loud. 853 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,439 Speaker 1: Good on both sides of the ball. Top ten, both 854 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 1: offensively and defensively. Re signed DeAndre Jordan, added Dario Sarich 855 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: and Russell Westbrook drafted de Ron Holmes a second he's 856 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: lost for the rookie season Kille surgery. And then the 857 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: lost CACP to the Magic and Reggie Jackson to the 858 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 1: seventy six ers. So you know, again, fifty seven wins 859 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: last year, the line fifty one and a half. Why 860 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: the drop off do you think could be expected or 861 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: do you think they're easily going to hit that over? 862 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 3: Why the drop off is because the Western Conference is 863 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 3: going to be better. I believe I don't think CACP 864 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 3: by himself is worth six wins when you're talking about 865 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 3: fifty one and a half versus fifty seven last year. 866 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 3: But that is the big question for the Nuggets is 867 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 3: how do they replace Kentavious Caldwell Pope. Unfortunately, it looks 868 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 3: like they're gonna have to do with one way players. 869 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 3: That was the great strength of KCP. He's a good 870 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 3: three point shooter and then he could guard on the 871 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 3: perimeter as well. So the options are Peyton Watson all defense, 872 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 3: Julian Strawther all offense, or Christian Brown kind of like 873 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 3: the best case of playing two ways. He shot thirty 874 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 3: eight percent from three last year. That's awesome. He took 875 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 3: to a game. That's not nearly enough. The Nuggets need 876 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 3: more three point shooting. That's why this is a huge 877 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 3: season for Michael Porter Junior. He's got to be the 878 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 3: guy they expected when they signed into their huge extension, 879 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 3: not just a three point shooter, a guy that they 880 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 3: are envisioning could carry some second units, be another go 881 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 3: to scorer. 882 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 4: He hasn't been that guy for the Nuggets. 883 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 3: He's become a really good player, a vital piece of 884 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 3: their team just with the shooting he does bring. But 885 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 3: they're bottom five in three point shooting. That just doesn't 886 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 3: win anymore in twenty twenty four. They need to figure 887 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 3: out ways to get some shooting on the court while 888 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 3: letting their defense stay in the top ten to twelve 889 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 3: sort of range. So I'm probably going under here, but 890 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 3: I think they're like just barely under. 891 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 4: I had mark him for fifty one wins. 892 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 2: A big thing that's also looking like a problem for 893 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: them is Jamal Murray. He is a huge reason why 894 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 2: this team was good last year, and they still managed 895 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 2: to win fifty seven when he lost a lot of 896 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 2: games to injury in twenty three games that he was out, 897 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 2: So that's a pretty remarkable thing when you think about it. 898 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 2: They weren't a good shooting team, but Jokic does so 899 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 2: much for them offensively. They overcame what Jamal Murray was, 900 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 2: But he looks so poor in the playoffs and in 901 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 2: the Olympics. That's one reason why the number looks like 902 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 2: it might come down. But Calvin Booth said, hey, here's 903 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 2: two hundred million dollars Jamal Murray. So I gotta think 904 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 2: that he is going to be way better than he 905 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 2: was at the end of the year. I don't think 906 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 2: they're paying a guy who's going to be stinky. So 907 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 2: there's that, there's the KCP thing coming out, But I 908 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 2: think Christian Brown can be a very very good defender. 909 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 2: He's bigger than KCP. He saw him in the playoff 910 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 2: against Anthony Edwards on some possessions. He's a big dude. 911 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 2: Will he be able to shoot more when he's taking 912 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 2: more shots, Yeah, tbd. But he'll be playing with the starters, 913 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 2: I think, just so those are nice and open, and 914 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 2: I think they do need a guy like Westbrook coming 915 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 2: off the bench. I know this is the last straw 916 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 2: for Westbrook to be on a championship type team as 917 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 2: a rotation guy, but they need somebody that's got a 918 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 2: lot of oomph, that's going to run the ball as 919 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 2: much as possible. That's what Westbrook does. He's just kind 920 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 2: of push it as much as possible and set guys 921 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 2: up like Dario Sarch opens up the floor for them. 922 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 2: Julian Strather, I think, is going to be a guy 923 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 2: who shoots a lot for them. And he can shoot, 924 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 2: so that's that's the recipe. I think they have a 925 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 2: quiet locker room. They just have lost, you know, a 926 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 2: tiny step since Bruce Brown left and they're happy to 927 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 2: see Reggie Jackson go in all honesty and now Russell 928 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 2: Westbrook takes over. They need some juice back. That's what 929 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 2: happens to championship teams. They just need somebody talking, and 930 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 2: I think Westbrook will do that. They were just so 931 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 2: bad when Jokic sat last year, their minus eight point 932 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 2: four when he sat points per present and so well, 933 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 2: Westbrook be better than that, I think, so I think 934 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 2: he'll improve that. And again their fifty seven win team 935 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 2: and a lot of it comes down to Jamal Murray. 936 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: But it's a huge question mark what we saw for 937 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 1: Team Canada. And you know, even at times in the playoffs, 938 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 1: it's sort of forgotten because he had those game winners 939 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: against Lakers, but he wasn't good. You know, how badly 940 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: is he injured? Is it still lingering? Is he some 941 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: for some weird reason hit a wall. He's a huge, 942 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: huge part of this equation. But I think I think 943 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: Vegas bet MGM, whatever you want to call it, I 944 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: think they went a little too low on this one. 945 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: At fifty one and a half, I'm gonna take the over. 946 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 1: And here's like my simple reasoning. Only once in the 947 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,959 Speaker 1: last six seasons has a Yo kicch led Nuggets team 948 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: not won their regular season games out of sixty three 949 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: percent winning clip, which is basically fifty two wins when 950 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: you get to sixty three percent win clip. And that 951 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,879 Speaker 1: one season was twenty one to twenty two where Jamal 952 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: Murray didn't play at all, he was out for the 953 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: entire season, torn acl and they still won forty eight 954 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: games because Yo Kich if he plays and he always plays, 955 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: you're just like a fifty win team. And I know 956 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: you got to get a couple more, but for all 957 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: the reasons you guys were going through, if guys can 958 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: step up the development of those young guys in brown 959 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: and watch sinist author like, I think they get to 960 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: that fifty you know, three fifty four win mark just 961 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: having Jokic cha Loon, I guess I'm hoping Jamal Murray. 962 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: That was like, throw that summer out. They'll you know, 963 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: throw it out into the trash and sort of have 964 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: a bounce back as well. So I'll go just over. 965 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: Ultimately you're going I'm going over yet going over TK, 966 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: You're going under, just under on that one. All right, 967 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: to the next team here in the Northwest Division, we 968 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,760 Speaker 1: go to the Minnesota Timberwolves. Fifty six and twenty six. 969 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: Last year, the line is fifty two and a half. 970 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: They lost to the MAVs in the Western Conference Finals. 971 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: Amazing time, second time in franchise history they got that far. 972 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards turns into like a superstar. Ridgo Bear wins 973 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, nas Reed drop it in 974 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: the chat. He wins six Man of the Year. It 975 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: was a good year. So you're like, ah, they'll just 976 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: run it back right, No, no, no, no no. They 977 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: added Julius Randall, Dante DiVincenzo, Bates, Jiapp, Rob Dillingham who's 978 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: looked really good in preseason, fast got that Bowl in 979 00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: a string, Tarren Shannon Junior, Joe Ingles, PJ. Doser. They 980 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: re signed Luke Garza, and they lost kat Kylie Anderson, 981 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,280 Speaker 1: Jordan McLaughlin, Monte Morris, Wendell Moore Junior, and TJ. Warrens. 982 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 1: So big, big turnover here for the Wolves, especially Kat 983 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 1: leaving to New York, Julius Randall and Devincenzo coming in 984 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: fifty two and a half tasks. 985 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 2: Quite the drop off after winning fifty six games, right, 986 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 2: just because Caad is gone. So the question is do 987 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 2: they have the leaders to bring it back? And I 988 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 2: do believe in Anti Edwards and just the confidence slash 989 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 2: cockiness slash I'm the guy. And he said it in 990 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 2: the off season, he said Minnesota, it was great going 991 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 2: to the conference finals, but that was just the appetizer. 992 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 2: We want the whole meal. And so I do believe 993 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 2: in a team led by Anthony Edwards, just like we 994 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 2: did during the regular season, and that was his first 995 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,879 Speaker 2: time going to a conference finals. And I do think 996 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 2: fifty two and a half is just too low. I know, 997 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 2: obviously Cat is going to be missed, but they did 998 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 2: get a little bit deeper getting de Vincenzo and Julius 999 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 2: Randall and Rob Dillingham, as he said, and their defense 1000 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 2: was just so good last year. I don't think it's 1001 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 2: gonna take that much of a drop off at all, 1002 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 2: and so I don't think their offense will take a 1003 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 2: drop off. Really, their offense was really mediocre last year, 1004 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I think after winning fifty six 1005 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 2: games last year, obviously Kat's gonna be missed. I think 1006 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 2: this is an over and I'm not I'm not too 1007 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 2: worried about it. Obviously, the Western Conference is the toughest 1008 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,359 Speaker 2: part when you look at this division. I mean, it's 1009 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 2: a oh gosh, the Nuggets and the OKC in Minnesota, 1010 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 2: those are three great teams. So it's gonna be hard 1011 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 2: that way. But I think they get over fifty two 1012 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 2: and a half. 1013 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 3: The questions I had after the Randall Traders, how's the 1014 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 3: spacing gonna be? Because it's clunky with Gobert, especially the 1015 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 3: first year. Like the timber Wolves couldn't figure it out 1016 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 3: right away. It took till year two to figure out 1017 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 3: how to play alongside go Beart. They brought in Mike 1018 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 3: Conley to throw him lobbs. Anthony Edwards got better at 1019 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 3: throwing lobbs. Now you're putting Julius Randall in for Carl 1020 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 3: Anthony Towns. Randall has had one good season shooting the ball. 1021 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 3: Maybe he has another one, but there should be a 1022 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 3: little bit less spacing for the Timberwolves. And like you said, 1023 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 3: task our offense wasn't that great last year. They were 1024 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 3: right in the middle of the pack, and then in 1025 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 3: the clutch they had some serious problems. How's the defense 1026 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 3: gonna be? Randall is now gonna be the four. He's 1027 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 3: smaller than Karl Anthony Towns. We were talking all last season. 1028 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 3: It's great to have two seven footers out there. They 1029 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 3: don't have two seven footers anymore. He's six', eight not 1030 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,720 Speaker 3: a great, defender but he played on some Decent knicks 1031 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,919 Speaker 3: teams that had good, defense and he's got guys around 1032 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 3: him and McDaniels And gobert who make it easier for. 1033 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 3: Him so they maybe aren't the number one defense this, 1034 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 3: year but they're probably still a top. Five and then 1035 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 3: how good Is randal gonna be when he's the second, 1036 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 3: option when he's a playmaker And Anthony edwards goes to the. 1037 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,320 Speaker 4: Bench there are Great randall. 1038 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 3: Moments you love it he looks like An ALL nba, 1039 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 3: Guys and then there's sometimes he's giving a thumbs down 1040 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 3: to the fan and you're, like you're taking the hardest shots. 1041 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 3: Imaginable that's the thing to. Me randall is such a 1042 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 3: tough shot, maker but that means you're a tough shot taker. 1043 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 3: Too they don't always go. IN i got them a 1044 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 3: little bit, under BUT i still think they're one of 1045 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 3: the top four teams in The Western. 1046 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,720 Speaker 1: Conference, yeah worst case scenario is Definitely randall And gobert 1047 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: getting each in each other's that's some. Concern and then 1048 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 1: them getting in each other's way gets an ant's way 1049 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: and they're sort of a girl gets clogged. UP i 1050 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: wanted to point out. Too you, Know kat did miss 1051 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: time last, year but everybody else was really healthy on this, 1052 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: squad and you, know you don't want to talk that 1053 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: into existence that suddenly one of their other guys gets 1054 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,959 Speaker 1: the banged. Up but Like aunt Go, Bear, conley, McDaniels Nos, 1055 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: reid And Nikhil Alexander. Walker they missed twenty six games 1056 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: combined last. Year that's like six of their best. Guys, 1057 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 1: Again kat did miss, time so there was, that but, 1058 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 1: like that's that's pretty. Good can they do that? Again you, 1059 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: know Obviously connley being the oldest of the bunch. THERE 1060 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 1: i just like that they're banking on increased opportunity for 1061 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: McDaniel's Nas. Reid that's a part of the. Trade it 1062 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 1: really is the nos read equation With kack going out 1063 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: and can he like continue, to like obviously, shine just 1064 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: in a bigger role in more, minutes more. Opportunities sometimes we, think, oh, 1065 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: yeah why wouldn't that? Happen but sometimes it always. Doesn't 1066 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 1: SO i go just over though that's a bit of 1067 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 1: a drop off again from, yeah fifty six last year 1068 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: TO i guess fifty two and a, Half so call 1069 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: it fifty. THREE i think THERE'S i don't think they're drastically. 1070 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: WORSE i, don't So i'll go just over on The 1071 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 1: wolves to, ok, see fifty six and a, half people 1072 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 1: gonna be pounding the over. Here they went fifty seven 1073 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 1: and twenty five last, year top five offensively and defensively 1074 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 1: incredible third offensive, rating fourth in defensive. Rating they lost 1075 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 1: to The MAVs in the second, round really tight. Series 1076 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,839 Speaker 1: here's what they. Did they Resigned Isaiah joe And Aaron. 1077 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,800 Speaker 1: Wiggins they Added Alex caruso in a, trade they Added 1078 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 1: Isaiah hertenstein in free, agency and they Lost Giddy, Waters 1079 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,959 Speaker 1: Biambo hayward And. Mescala so like comparing what they lost 1080 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: to what they. Added hell of an, offseason so a 1081 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 1: little strange that the lines fifty six and a, half. 1082 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 4: You, know basically last year's. RECORD i guess a. 1083 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: Lot of people think they're gonna be, better maybe a 1084 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: sixty win, team gonna run roughshd over The Western. Conference 1085 00:48:58,960 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 1: what do you, Think? 1086 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 3: TIKI i think they should challenge The celtics for the 1087 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 3: best record in THE. NBA i think The thunder came 1088 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 3: in and, said we Know Josh getty doesn't, Fit let's 1089 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,720 Speaker 3: replace him With Alex. Cruso gives us another perimeter, defender 1090 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 3: a guy that can shoot. Threes then they went out 1091 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 3: and Got Isaiah hartenstein as well to address the. Rebounding 1092 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 3: and guess, What Isaiah hartenstein shooting. Threes oh, yeah, yeah that's. 1093 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,919 Speaker 3: Nice people are saying he's a stretch. FIVE i think 1094 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 3: he'll probably, start. THOUGH i think that moves check to the. 1095 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 3: Four that makes their defense even. Better and they're already 1096 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 3: a great defensive, team not just from like a fundamental, 1097 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 3: standpoint but they make a lot of plays defensively as. 1098 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 3: WELL i think they're going to be tough to score. 1099 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 3: ON i Assume Jalen williams will take another step. Forward 1100 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 3: he'll surely be getting Most Improved player buzz once we 1101 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 3: get to our awards. 1102 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 4: PICKS i think. 1103 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 3: Their starting lineup is probably a little bit. Unsettled Maybe 1104 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 3: caruso comes off the bench to start the. SEASON i 1105 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 3: personally think he's a better defender and player Than Lou, 1106 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 3: Dort But dort has the institutional knowledge there with The, 1107 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 3: thunder and he's like a forty percent three point shooter as. 1108 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 4: Well but The. 1109 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 3: Thunder it looks like they've got a perfect top, seven 1110 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 3: and that's kind of what you need to be a championship. 1111 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,840 Speaker 2: Contender, yeah the top four on both sides of the 1112 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 2: floor last year and they won those fifty seven. Games 1113 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 2: But vegas is very good and making a line, here 1114 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 2: fifty six and a half would be the number one 1115 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 2: seed in The Western conference cording to these over under, 1116 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,359 Speaker 2: lines and you got to expect that they would get back, 1117 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 2: there because, YES i do think they got better with 1118 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 2: The hartenstein and The caruso, acquisition but as he, Said 1119 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 2: Jalen williams And Chet holgrin have to take a little 1120 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 2: bit of a step just to get. Better chet also 1121 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 2: has the help With Isaiah hartenstein to help him out 1122 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 2: around the rim to rebound for. Everything And harpstein's just 1123 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 2: damn good shooting. Threes also in the, preseason he's being 1124 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 2: that hub where he's getting the ball above the three 1125 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 2: point line and dribbling into the. Lane he had an 1126 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 2: over the head pass To Alex caruso for a. Jumper Like, 1127 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 2: hartenstein this big guy dribbling into the lane just throws 1128 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,760 Speaker 2: it over his. Head he also had to play above 1129 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 2: the arc where he basically kind of did a dribble 1130 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 2: handoff for Chet holger and it was like a four 1131 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 2: to a five or five to, five a six to, 1132 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 2: five calm, whatever and Chet holnggridg just drives to the. 1133 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 2: Lane so that that wheeling game play reminded me Of 1134 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 2: bron And, wade that handoff wheeling thing that they were 1135 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 2: going to. Love that's gonna love this. Stuff he's gonna 1136 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 2: have so much fun playing with these. GUYS i just 1137 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 2: think that they're they're. Better it's just is The west too. 1138 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 3: TOUGH i know you're gonna get a photo Of Isaiah 1139 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 3: hartenstein and Chat holmgren doing The lebron And wade and 1140 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 3: saying in, Comparison, YEA i love. 1141 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 4: It these guys are The lebron And wade of The Western. 1142 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 4: Conference why so you're leaning? 1143 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 2: Over? Yes, yeah. 1144 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,839 Speaker 1: Yeahs my only concern is it feels like everybody's going 1145 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 1: over on. This it's, like what that can't? WORK i don't, 1146 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 1: know Because i'm with, you. Guys they had two like, 1147 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 1: flaws right if you want to call him. That it 1148 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,439 Speaker 1: was Like giddy could be played off the floor because 1149 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: he didn't have to worry about him as a, shooter 1150 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: and then they were not great at offensive. Rebounding. Uh 1151 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,280 Speaker 1: they just fixed both of those things and They giddy's 1152 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 1: gone for Carus, so who can play defense much much 1153 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 1: better and can hit a, shot and Then hertenstein is 1154 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 1: one of the best offensive. Rebunds it's like they already 1155 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 1: had an elite team that's super young with guys that 1156 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 1: are probably only going to get, better and they filled 1157 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: in those. Gaps it's, like, what this is. Incredible they 1158 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 1: also have like it's not like they went to the conference. 1159 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 1: Finals they went to the finals and lost and it's, like, 1160 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,839 Speaker 1: ah we can take our foot off the gas a little. 1161 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: Bit it's like they're pissed off they lost to The, 1162 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 1: mass like they didn't go as far as they probably 1163 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 1: even thought they. Could SO i like that only one 1164 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: team at a better record last year Than. Oksee only 1165 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: one outscored opponents by more than points per one hundred, 1166 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 1: possessions and only one joined them in the top five 1167 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,919 Speaker 1: in both offensive and defensive. Efficiency it was the team 1168 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,879 Speaker 1: that won the title in The, Celtics so, like they're 1169 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 1: sort of on par with them in a Loaded. West 1170 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 1: i'm with, you, Guys i'm going. Over they have so many. 1171 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 1: SHOOTERS i liked re Signing joe And, Wiggins like those 1172 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,839 Speaker 1: guys can shoot, man and in a long regular, season 1173 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: they'll get, minutes they'll get opportunity if guys get banged 1174 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: up and stuff like. That So i'm going. OVER i 1175 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,799 Speaker 1: think this could be a sixty win, team just like 1176 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: we think sort of The celtics in The Eastern conference 1177 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 1: just could easily be a sixty win. Team it just 1178 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: seems too. 1179 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 4: Easy, yeah it seems to be the. Sake he seems too. 1180 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:01,320 Speaker 1: EASY i don't know WHAT i. 1181 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 3: Think last year was the same case. Though everybody's like 1182 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 3: over on the thunder and you're, LIKE i don't, KNOW 1183 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 3: i don't, know and then, yeah they're. Awesome but the biggest, concerns, 1184 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 3: right now it's that. Chat holmgren changed his shooting. Form, 1185 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 3: odd you, know just always keep getting. Better and number, 1186 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,399 Speaker 3: two not only they have Two, jalens they now have Two. 1187 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,280 Speaker 3: Isaiahs SO i know that's compusing For thunder. 1188 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 1: Fans, JESUS i like to double, up don't? 1189 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 4: They they love? 1190 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 1: It AND i guess if we're thinking they're a sixty win, 1191 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 1: TEAM i know we will get to award talk later 1192 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 1: in the week On friday, Show but that would put 1193 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,360 Speaker 1: Probably sga in THE i don't, know he'd be sitting 1194 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: at the table for, sure he'd never left the, table 1195 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,840 Speaker 1: but maybe has the menu in his hand as the 1196 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: front runner FOR. Mvp if we're saying this a sixty 1197 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: win team and he puts on similar, stats. 1198 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,959 Speaker 2: He's at the. Table does he have a digital menu 1199 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 2: or he's got an actual? Menu, oh, Coach, yeah he's, 1200 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 2: kid you. 1201 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 4: KNOW i Mean Jason tatum was on the best team 1202 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:50,319 Speaker 4: in the league last. Year. 1203 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it's a good. Point so you think the 1204 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: same could be true. 1205 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 3: For are people gonna hold out against The thunder that 1206 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 3: their team is too good? Now doesn't seem. Likely, Also 1207 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 3: shay's stats are a lot better Than. Tatum it's like 1208 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,879 Speaker 3: thirty per. Game will he be thirty per game this? Year, 1209 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 3: yeah probably might go down a little. BIT i would 1210 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 3: say they got a better. 1211 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: Team, yeah, Yeah, okay we're all taking the Over Trail 1212 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,839 Speaker 1: blazers twenty two and a. Half they won twenty one 1213 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 1: games last, year finished dead last in The Western. Conference 1214 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 1: they were near the bottom when it came to. Offense 1215 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: a little bit better, defensively but still in the bottom. 1216 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,359 Speaker 1: Third this was year one Without Damian. Lillard it's sort 1217 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: of went as. Expected had a lot of injuries. Too 1218 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 1: they lost fifteen to their final seventeen, games like they ended. 1219 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,799 Speaker 1: Poorly so what did they? Do they Added Avdia DeVante, 1220 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: Graham they Drafted clinging with the number seven, pick and 1221 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: they Lost brogden to The, Wizards so you, Know avdya 1222 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 1: is sort of their big. Move and then obviously the 1223 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 1: draft pick task get us started here twenty two and a. 1224 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 1: Half is there a tiny bit of improvement from The 1225 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,279 Speaker 1: blazers same or? 1226 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 2: WORSE i think it's gonna be under BUT i think 1227 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 2: it's going to be a beautiful mess to. Watch there's 1228 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 2: just so man any players that you're interested. In but 1229 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 2: at the same, time they Were, yeah as you said 1230 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 2: one of the worst. Offenses AND i Know denny is 1231 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,879 Speaker 2: a really damn good playmaker and had a really good 1232 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,800 Speaker 2: year last year and plays like a modern player, should 1233 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,879 Speaker 2: but he's gonna be the secondary. Guy AND i think 1234 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 2: it's gonna be all Through scoot one more time And 1235 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 2: simon's And Jeremy grant And. Ayton when you look at, 1236 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 2: that you, Think, squint maybe they should win twenty three freaking. 1237 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 2: GAMES i ain't that. Much, maybe BUT i just think 1238 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 2: there's there's a lot on scoot shoulders and there will, 1239 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 2: be Especially Shaden sharp's injury right now, too that kind 1240 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 2: of hurts. Them BUT i think this is another is 1241 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,319 Speaker 2: a year to another year Of, hey let's figure this thing. 1242 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:44,840 Speaker 2: Out let's see if we're, Good let's see what we. 1243 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 2: Got and they have a bunch of injuries and a 1244 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 2: bunch of good quality players that have. Won denny's a 1245 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 2: damn good. PLAYER i think Don Van klean's gonna play 1246 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,320 Speaker 2: minutes with Behind DeAndre aydon Because Robert williams is. Injured 1247 00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 2: klangon is a. Winner there's a bunch of guys there 1248 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,760 Speaker 2: that have. Experience but if you're looking at This Western 1249 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,919 Speaker 2: conference and you're looking at the bad. Teams you gotta pick. 1250 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,360 Speaker 2: One this is unfortunately it's gonna be, one but AGAIN 1251 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 2: i can enjoy watching. IT i think it's gonna be 1252 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 2: a Nice. 1253 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,759 Speaker 1: Manny, Yeah, trey where are you? 1254 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,840 Speaker 3: GOING i would say watch him early in the season 1255 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 3: BECAUSE i think this is a trade. Team there are 1256 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 3: two replacements on the roster For Anthony simons In Shaden 1257 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 3: sharp And Scoot, henderson so maybe that's a guy that 1258 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,400 Speaker 3: draws interest around the. League Time, lord to me is 1259 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 3: kind of just lost in the shuffle. Here you got 1260 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 3: eighton who doesn't seem to have much of a market right, 1261 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 3: now and then they just Drafted. Clinging so maybe there's 1262 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 3: some team that's, saying, Hey Robert williams the third he 1263 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,760 Speaker 3: was awesome for The celtics before. 1264 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 4: They traded him away and then immediately won the. Championship 1265 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 4: and then they Got Jeremy. 1266 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 3: Grant why is he still? Here he's just completely. Miscast 1267 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,239 Speaker 3: see on The. Lakers eventually they just traded For Danny, 1268 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 3: abdia so that seems, like, yeah. 1269 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 4: Probably their replacement. 1270 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 3: There the BEST i can say is THAT i Think 1271 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 3: Denny abdia wins more games this season than he wore 1272 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 3: that won last. Season he was on a fifteen Win 1273 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,839 Speaker 3: wizards team last. YEAR i think they'll win more than, 1274 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 3: fifteen but less than twenty two and a. 1275 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 1: Half, Okay, okay so a good year for. Him, Yeah, 1276 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,839 Speaker 1: hey we won six more games THAN i won last 1277 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 1: year with The. Wizards, Okay i'm going under as. Well 1278 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 1: there has to be bad. Teams they're gonna be one of. 1279 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 1: Them good call on guys probably being. Moved they have 1280 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 1: a weird, roster crazy, overlap like so many guards and 1281 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 1: so many, centers and it's like you probably don't need 1282 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 1: all of. Them. Here Will billups survive this season as 1283 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 1: the head? Coach does he get the whole? Runway you, 1284 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 1: know if they do have another twenty one, season it's 1285 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 1: gonna be year. 1286 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 4: Four For Chauncey. 1287 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 3: Billups you said this is figure it out time for The. 1288 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 3: Trailblazers this is like year four of trying to figure 1289 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 3: it out because they tanked the last Two Damian lillard, 1290 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 3: seasons acted like they weren't and then they were obviously 1291 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 3: bad last year and probably bad this. Year but you 1292 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 3: gotta have some sort of an identity when you're on 1293 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 3: a bad team or when you're the coach of a bad. 1294 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 3: Team you have to have some sort of an identity 1295 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 3: Like Brett brown lasted a long time with The Process 1296 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 3: sixers because they at least play. DEFENSE i don't know 1297 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 3: what The trailblazers. 1298 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 1: Do RIGHT i SAW i think it Was Jason quick 1299 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 1: for The athletic in The Bold predictions article on The 1300 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 1: athletics that his prediction Is sharp leads the team in. 1301 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: SCORING i was, like, oh, okay but then he said 1302 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 1: the one bright spot for The blazers will Be sharp 1303 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 1: going in The Dunk contest and winning. It, okay and 1304 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 1: maybe that will be that'd be fun Over All star 1305 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 1: weekend that he finally would go. In he was gonna 1306 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: go with it until they snubbed him from the was 1307 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,720 Speaker 1: it The Rising stars? Game and he was all. Pissed 1308 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 1: i'll going to The Dunk, contest all, Right we're going 1309 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: under on The. Blazers as low as that line is 1310 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,640 Speaker 1: twenty two and a. Half, wow The jazz twenty nine 1311 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 1: and a. Half their line Is they went thirty one 1312 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 1: and fifty one last, year finished twelfth in the. Conference 1313 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 1: they were the worst defensive team in the. League that surprised. 1314 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 1: ME i knew they were, bad BUT i didn't know 1315 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 1: they were the worst one nineteen point six defensive. 1316 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 2: Rate, yeah. 1317 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 1: Garbage UM i looked at it, too, like, wow they 1318 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 1: got the thirty one. WINS i thought they were really really. 1319 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 1: Bad they weren't that bad at the beginning of the. 1320 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 1: Season they won five games by my account after The 1321 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 1: All star, break twenty six and thirty before five and 1322 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 1: twenty one. After, yeah and that to me was the 1323 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: old were Hosting All Star. WEEKEND a part of the 1324 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 1: equation that was the year. 1325 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 4: Prior last year was In. Indiana oh, god you're. 1326 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 3: Right the year prior though they were three, seventeen and 1327 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 3: then when eight and fourteen after makes you wonder what's 1328 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 3: going on In utah because they're not one of the 1329 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 3: worst teams in the, league like you see that all 1330 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 3: over under is basically thirty. Wins we were seeing some 1331 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 3: here in the low. Twenties but they also don't really 1332 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 3: have a young cornerstone. Star Lowry markinen is twenty eight 1333 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 3: at the end of this. Season John collins is younger 1334 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 3: Than Lowry markin And John collins also still on The. 1335 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 3: JAZZ i don't know if anybody knew, that but what 1336 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 3: they do is like they come out of the. Gates 1337 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 3: they surprise people by playing in the five out, style 1338 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 3: playing no, defense even though they got a guy Like 1339 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 3: Walker kessler who's allegedly a good. Defender they got a 1340 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 3: lot of future. Picks they've Got John. Collins they've Got, 1341 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 3: collins they Got Jordan. Clarkson these are the vets they 1342 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 3: would trade at the trade deadline to get. Worse but 1343 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 3: you're giving teams quite a head start on the tanking. 1344 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 3: Race For Cooper, flag a White, american would probably go 1345 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 3: overwell In. Utah i'm, thinking BUT i don't know That, Collins, 1346 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 3: sexton And clarkson have any sort of a market right, 1347 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,720 Speaker 3: really SO i don't know exactly What utah is. Doing 1348 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 3: i'm going under here just because they did the deal 1349 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,440 Speaker 3: with market and the time they did. It he can't be, 1350 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 3: traded so he'll be. Around their twenty five pick is 1351 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 3: top ten. PROTECTED i think they'll be one of the 1352 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 3: ten worst teams in the. League but if you want 1353 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 3: a chance at the number one, pick he got to 1354 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 3: be one of the four worst teams at the. 1355 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 4: LEAGUE i don't. 1356 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 3: Know they're gonna probably play their young. Guys they Got Cody, 1357 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 3: williams maybe the skinniest guy in the. 1358 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 4: League Isaiah. 1359 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 3: Collier i'm actually excited to see him. Play but they 1360 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 3: didn't really do anything beefing up the. Team SO i 1361 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 3: think The jazz are going to be, bad AND i 1362 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 3: think it's kind of the. 1363 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:52,479 Speaker 4: Point. 1364 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 1: Now, yeah they just added You, Banks Patty, mills And Sphiemkay. 1365 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,320 Speaker 1: Luke that's really all they added here in the, offseason 1366 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 1: along with their draft, picks their number of ten pick 1367 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 1: Being Cody. 1368 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 2: Williams, yeah they're so. Young Cody williams, nineteen call her. 1369 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 2: Twenty Taylor hendrick's gonna Play, County george's gonna play both, 1370 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 2: Twenty Kyle, Flapowski Brice, sense The bah. Twenty there's six 1371 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 2: guys under twenty, one their kids that are gonna. PLAY 1372 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 2: i do agree they kind of toss this season and, say, Yeah, 1373 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 2: lowry you're a very good, player and we're gonna sign 1374 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 2: you to a long term. Deal but we're gonna see 1375 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 2: if we can get That. Coop they're gonna try and 1376 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 2: Get cooper. Fly that's what they're gonna try and. Do 1377 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 2: last year it was, Similar like you, Said skeatzy, said 1378 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 2: they won thirty one. Games it doesn't seem that. LOW i, 1379 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 2: mean it seems like they have a really good offense 1380 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,240 Speaker 2: when they come out of the, gates and they, do 1381 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 2: and so they can With Loarry markin in the. Lineup 1382 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 2: that's why they have to sit. Him that's what they 1383 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 2: did last. YEAR i, mean you got air quotes. Hurt 1384 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 2: BUT i think they they'll just make a. DECISION i 1385 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 2: think it's time to sit, You, lowry even though him 1386 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 2: And County george they played together In Finland County george 1387 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 2: when Visited Loarry markin in this. Summer wonderful relationship with 1388 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 2: those you. Have but, yeah AS i, said they're really really. 1389 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 2: YOUNG i, think, yeah you mentioned the guys that they 1390 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 2: could trade In clarkson And, sexton AND i don't know 1391 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 2: Who Walker kessler is. Really they didn't start him last 1392 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 2: year for much of the, year and that's a confusing 1393 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 2: thing for. Me they have to figure that. Out BUT 1394 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 2: i don't know this team. Will harry always gets them 1395 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 2: to play, offensively really really, well so they can win 1396 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,440 Speaker 2: games If lowery's. Playing but as soon as you sit, 1397 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 2: them then they're not going to. 1398 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,840 Speaker 1: Good job on catching me mixing up those two years 1399 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 1: because they were basically the exact same. SEASONS i got 1400 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 1: that confused then when we were In Salt Lake. 1401 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 2: City kind of the same cities, too you. Know. White, yes. 1402 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,440 Speaker 1: We've gone back to Back white cities And All Star 1403 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 1: weekend we had a. Blast But i'm with, you, Guys 1404 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 1: i'm going to be locking this one. Under i'm telling 1405 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 1: you right, now tipping my. HAND i think they're going 1406 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 1: to wisely play the young. Kids maybe there's moves to 1407 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 1: unlock more opportunity and playing time in trading those guys 1408 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 1: that you said some of their you know that they 1409 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 1: should be, bad they should take a stab at Getting 1410 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 1: cooper flag by helping their. CHANCES i just think it's 1411 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 1: going to be a bad season for, them and they will. 1412 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,920 Speaker 1: Be i'm going to significantly say under actually twenty nine 1413 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 1: and a. Half we got one more division, here and 1414 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 1: that is The Southwest. Division Dallas mavericks at forty nine 1415 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 1: and a, half they just went to THE Nba finals 1416 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 1: and it's under. Fifty The rockets forty three and a. 1417 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 1: Half that's a sexy, pick isn't. It grizzlies forty seven 1418 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 1: and a, half what a bounce, Back pelicans forty six 1419 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,960 Speaker 1: and a, half and The spurs at thirty six and a. 1420 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 1: Half so that's The Southwest. Division we start with The 1421 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 1: MAVs again forty nine and a. Half they went fifty 1422 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,280 Speaker 1: and thirty, two went all the way to the. Finals 1423 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 1: really came. Together luca Massive year scored nearly thirty four 1424 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,560 Speaker 1: points per. Game this Guy kyrie looked, happy he looked. 1425 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 1: Comfortable they made the mid season. Trades they bring IN. Pj, 1426 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 1: Washington they bring In Daniel, Gafford Derek. Leively the second 1427 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 1: really surprised a lot of. People he really. Progressed and 1428 01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: what else they? Do they had A Klay, Thompson Quinton. 1429 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 1: Grimes they Got Nausey marshall to replace Basically Derreck, Jones 1430 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 1: junior Din witti's back In. Dallas uh Lost Josh, green 1431 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 1: Lost Tim, Hardaway, JUNIOR i SAID. Djj and they Resigned 1432 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,640 Speaker 1: Markith morris And Brandon. Williams So trey forty nine and a? 1433 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,320 Speaker 1: Half is this one perplexing? Me you are you confused by this? 1434 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 1: One or sound about? 1435 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 4: Right this is the Team i'm excited to. See? 1436 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,800 Speaker 3: Uh The Klay thompson addition is pretty interesting Because dallas 1437 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 3: was only tenth in offense last? 1438 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 2: Season is that? 1439 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 4: Right? 1440 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 1: YEAH i have a, mates but yeah it's. 1441 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 3: Okay, nonetheless this should be a team that's an elite. 1442 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 3: Offense they should be a top five, offense AND i 1443 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 3: think that's what The Klay thompson trade. Is they're, saying 1444 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 3: we can be, elite we can be a record setting 1445 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 3: offense like they were a couple of seasons, ago and 1446 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 3: that will then offset having a very mid, defense because 1447 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,880 Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough to build a great defensive team Around, 1448 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,280 Speaker 3: Luca kyrie And Klay thompson as your back. 1449 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:56,080 Speaker 4: Court it's just gonna be. 1450 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:56,680 Speaker 2: Tough you. 1451 01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,520 Speaker 3: Know it's kind of MISCASTING Pj washington and as the wing. 1452 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 3: Stopper so Maybe Naji marshall eventually. STARTS i think it 1453 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 3: will Be. CLAY i think they can get to being 1454 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 3: an elite. Offense i'm not totally convinced that they can 1455 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 3: be a mid. Defense they could be a very bad, 1456 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 3: defense which would show itself more so in the. Playoffs 1457 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 3: But i'm going. OVER i think they're a fifty win 1458 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 3: team just because as long As kyrie is able to 1459 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,880 Speaker 3: stay on the court for a variety of, reasons as 1460 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,560 Speaker 3: long As luca stays, HEALTHY i think they're gonna be 1461 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:28,560 Speaker 3: pretty tough to. 1462 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 4: Stop on the offensive, end they will. 1463 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 2: Be, yeah the question is the defense because they all 1464 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,600 Speaker 2: came together when they got those. Traits, yeah when they 1465 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 2: made them for both those guys that ended up losing 1466 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 2: one of, them they end up Losing Derek Jones, junior 1467 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,040 Speaker 2: who was the guy guarding the best ball handler on 1468 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 2: the other. Team. 1469 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 1: Yeah putting pressure on the, perimeter yeah for. 1470 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 2: Sure and now you are going to roll With clay 1471 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 2: most likely to start With kyrie And. Luca those are 1472 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 2: gonna be your perimeter, players and THEN. Pj washington starting 1473 01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 2: at the four most. Likely so how are they going 1474 01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:01,440 Speaker 2: to do? Defensively can't be there, great but they should outscore, 1475 01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 2: teams that's for. Sure And i'm sure they're excited to 1476 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 2: Have clay come playoff time. WIN i, say, yeah they 1477 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:07,960 Speaker 2: may not be a good defensive, team but when they 1478 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 2: want to, grind when they want to play, like they'll 1479 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:14,160 Speaker 2: play hard ENOUGH i imagine come playoff time or they 1480 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 2: tried The Naji marshall, thing that's for. Sure but they're 1481 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 2: excited to Get clay because they couldn't shoot in the. 1482 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 2: Post they couldn't shoot Versus, boston especially in the, finals 1483 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,600 Speaker 2: so they're excited about. That BUT i think that's it's 1484 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 2: a little Bit clay is obviously an incredible, score BUT 1485 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 2: i wonder about the defense and the grind and how 1486 01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,800 Speaker 2: that team again was, like you, know a mediocre and 1487 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 2: then bang The Washington. GAFFORD i, mean they all came 1488 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,680 Speaker 2: together really. Quickly SO i wonder how that's all gonna. 1489 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,200 Speaker 2: Go So i'm gonna go, under but it's gonna be 1490 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,919 Speaker 2: like they're just that's a good. 1491 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:48,200 Speaker 4: Line. 1492 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,400 Speaker 1: Again The MAVs won sixteen of their final twenty regular season, 1493 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 1: games including these two losses that they punted away because 1494 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 1: they're resting, guys and they had the NBA's second best 1495 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 1: defense during that, span so it was like really. Elite 1496 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,040 Speaker 1: it stayed pretty good in the. Playoffs their defense as, 1497 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 1: well you, know knocking off the clips and the thunder 1498 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,320 Speaker 1: and the. Wolves they've won fifty plus games in two 1499 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 1: of the last three. Seasons i'm with, you, guys the line's. 1500 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,920 Speaker 1: Perfect it's going to be like one side or the 1501 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,800 Speaker 1: other by one or two. GAMES i will go just over. 1502 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,520 Speaker 1: Again i'm sort of Ex i'm cheering On Klay. THOMPSON i, 1503 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 1: MEAN i hope this goes. Well he's gonna fire. Away 1504 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 1: he's been like one of the best catch and shoot three. 1505 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 1: PLAYERS i don't know in the last ten years of all. 1506 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,480 Speaker 1: Time really when you think about it in terms of, 1507 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,360 Speaker 1: volume how much does he have left in the? Tank and, 1508 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 1: yeah when will kid? Go we're getting exposed with those 1509 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:37,920 Speaker 1: three guys And, Klay kyrie And luke on The. Premier, 1510 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 1: Okay Naji, marshall you got to do your Best Derek 1511 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 1: jones junior, impersonation, like AND i think you. Can but 1512 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 1: how will that balance? Go i'll go just, over just 1513 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,280 Speaker 1: over the what DID i? Say forty nine and a? Half, 1514 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:51,520 Speaker 1: yeah so you're going just. 1515 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 2: Over i'm Going i'm going just Under. Trey trey will 1516 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,920 Speaker 2: go just. Over, Okay and this is sort of like 1517 01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 2: A yokic kind of team that, wins you, Know. Luca 1518 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,280 Speaker 2: luca is kind of like. That four of his five 1519 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,200 Speaker 2: last years they're winning. Records there was that really weird 1520 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,080 Speaker 2: year where they said we don't want to, winow we 1521 01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 2: don't want to play in the. Playoffs when they were 1522 01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,040 Speaker 2: able to get they were able to get Their. 1523 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:13,640 Speaker 1: Pively yeah they kept. 1524 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,840 Speaker 2: It they Got lively and that whole weird case And 1525 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,920 Speaker 2: walls trade. Thingy but that's a good team because It's. 1526 01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,639 Speaker 1: Luca, Right so Like jokich, like, yeah there are these 1527 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,920 Speaker 1: guys that just raised the level of your team to 1528 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,720 Speaker 1: basically a fifty win. Mark so it's gonna be right, 1529 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,439 Speaker 1: there all. Right H Houston rockets forty three and a. Half, 1530 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,360 Speaker 1: Oh i'm excited to talk about this. One last year 1531 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,680 Speaker 1: one of the surprise, teams one of the feel good, 1532 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,760 Speaker 1: Stories udoka coming in, there getting these guys to go 1533 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:37,719 Speaker 1: forty one and forty. One they brought in some vets 1534 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,559 Speaker 1: to help out the young guys and it. Worked now 1535 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,320 Speaker 1: they finished eleventh in The. West they didn't make the 1536 01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,240 Speaker 1: play and didn't make the. Postseason but, man they had 1537 01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 1: that late run Where Jalen green like caught. Fire they 1538 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,840 Speaker 1: won eleven straight and again they just ran out of. 1539 01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,120 Speaker 1: GAMES i guess they ultimately came up like four or 1540 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 1: five games short of even making a playing. Spot but 1541 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 1: what they. Do they re Signed Aaron, holiday Resigned Nate, 1542 01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 1: williams and they added reidshep with the number three, pick 1543 01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,679 Speaker 1: and they Add Steven adams who didn't play it because 1544 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,360 Speaker 1: he was. Injured when are you going to start a? 1545 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,400 Speaker 1: Task forty three and a. Half it's improved from that 1546 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,639 Speaker 1: five hundred season last, year but not. Drastically but people 1547 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,240 Speaker 1: are like convinced this could be one of, like you, 1548 01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,920 Speaker 1: know the up and coming. Teams why couldn't they easily 1549 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 1: clear forty three and a? Half what do you? 1550 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,519 Speaker 2: Think, yeah the team is stacked in. Depth they may 1551 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 2: not have like championship type, leaders but it is one 1552 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 2: of the best teams in terms of. Depth you've got 1553 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,320 Speaker 2: guys who aren't going to play that are good. Players 1554 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:36,080 Speaker 2: Jeff green game, Playing Jack, Landale, okay call him good 1555 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 2: player if you, want but he's not. PLAYING i, mean 1556 01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:42,439 Speaker 2: they just have way too many. Guys fred Van, Vliet Jalen, 1557 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:46,599 Speaker 2: green whitmore from last. Year you Mentioned reid and then 1558 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 2: You're Dylan. Brooks i'm In. Thompson it doesn't stop. Us 1559 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,479 Speaker 2: Shng gun obviously is going to play a. Lot Jabari, 1560 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,880 Speaker 2: smith Sorry easton didn't play last. Year he's gonna be, 1561 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 2: There like it doesn't. Stop so all that, said they're 1562 01:09:58,560 --> 01:09:59,840 Speaker 2: gonna trade a bunch of those. GUYS i think it's 1563 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 2: point they. Have they have way too many guys and 1564 01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,840 Speaker 2: they have, to you, know, decide Is Jalen green going 1565 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:08,240 Speaker 2: to be that same guy he was for a month 1566 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:09,960 Speaker 2: and a half at the end of the. Season maybe, 1567 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 2: yes maybe, No but then he has they have to 1568 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,360 Speaker 2: trade somebody else if they're going to sign him to 1569 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,599 Speaker 2: a near max, deal which he comes up for later 1570 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,720 Speaker 2: on this month here In. October he's. Good can't wait 1571 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,960 Speaker 2: to see what he does here in his fourth, year you, 1572 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,120 Speaker 2: know as a young, player fourth years, Matter so we'll 1573 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,320 Speaker 2: see about. That i'm And thompson can't wait to see about. 1574 01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:31,640 Speaker 2: That him And Sheng goon aren't exactly capable players are 1575 01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,960 Speaker 2: playing together because they don't shoot that. Deep BUT i, 1576 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,559 Speaker 2: mean they're both so, good SO i wonder if they 1577 01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,479 Speaker 2: decide on one of those guys to go back and 1578 01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,639 Speaker 2: get somebody in. RETURN i think that's WHY i pick, 1579 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,760 Speaker 2: under just because they have a lot of damn good 1580 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,040 Speaker 2: players and they are going to trade a couple of. 1581 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,439 Speaker 1: Them so you think this is a team that's set 1582 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:52,559 Speaker 1: up to put together good, players some young players for 1583 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 1: what a star player that comes. 1584 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 2: Apail, yeah that was the rumor at the trade deadline last. 1585 01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,240 Speaker 2: Year who are they looking to get at the h 1586 01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,440 Speaker 2: the trade? Deadline was it somebody. 1587 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,600 Speaker 4: Somebody's marketing and MAYBE i don't know he was a 1588 01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:06,400 Speaker 4: name that it? 1589 01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,800 Speaker 2: Was he? Was it was SOMEBODY i should, Recall SHOULD 1590 01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 2: i not know who's. 1591 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:11,640 Speaker 4: Going to be the. 1592 01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,519 Speaker 1: Name, yes year is the. Question, yeah like you, Know, 1593 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,599 Speaker 1: booker if it goes poorly In, phoenix you, Know I'm Jimmy, 1594 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:18,840 Speaker 1: butler you, know stuff like. 1595 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,679 Speaker 2: That, yeah they were rumored to be going After phoenix 1596 01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,800 Speaker 2: for last in the off season as. Well so, YEAH 1597 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,880 Speaker 2: i think they lose some of these, guys especially Like 1598 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 2: fred Van vliet has got a team option for next. 1599 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,280 Speaker 2: YEAR i wonder if they pick it up With Jalen, 1600 01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,880 Speaker 2: Green Cam witmore And Rea. Shepherd, now, like there's a 1601 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,519 Speaker 2: bunch of guys you can. Play so there's so many 1602 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,040 Speaker 2: of them on this, TEAM i think at some point 1603 01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:39,679 Speaker 2: they got to bundle. 1604 01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:41,200 Speaker 1: Them and so what do you think for the over? 1605 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:45,320 Speaker 2: UNDER i, go, YEAH i said. UNDER i think again 1606 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 2: it's Stuff, West but forty two wins still damn good. Year, 1607 01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah i'm with. 1608 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,599 Speaker 3: YOU i was, like forty three. WINS i think they'll 1609 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,920 Speaker 3: be a little bit better than last, season but it's 1610 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,439 Speaker 3: just a competitive. 1611 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,080 Speaker 4: Thing And test really nailed. 1612 01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,080 Speaker 3: IT i think this is a kind of a strange 1613 01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,479 Speaker 3: season for The rockets because they had that great last. 1614 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,599 Speaker 3: Year but it's also very strange in, that like Shen 1615 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 3: gun was awesome for the first half of the, year 1616 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,360 Speaker 3: then he gets hurt and then Some Jalen green's. Awesome 1617 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,880 Speaker 3: they're both eligible for. Extensions, now which one do you? 1618 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,280 Speaker 3: Pick i'm more of a sheng gun, guy But Jalen 1619 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,720 Speaker 3: green looked awesome in the second half of last. Year 1620 01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,479 Speaker 3: is he for real a good player or is he 1621 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,120 Speaker 3: trade bait for somebody during this? Season Fred Van vliet 1622 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,000 Speaker 3: is a great question because wouldn't you want to start 1623 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 3: the guy who just drafted number, three who's the favorite 1624 01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,519 Speaker 3: For rookie of The. Year it feels like right, NOW 1625 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 3: i don't. Know they've got a lot of decisions to, 1626 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:32,280 Speaker 3: make a lot of mouths to. Feed Imo UDOKA i 1627 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:33,960 Speaker 3: do think is a good, coach but he's got a 1628 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,479 Speaker 3: lot of decisions to make BECAUSE i don't really think 1629 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,840 Speaker 3: their starting lineup is. Settled Like Dylan brooks seemed like 1630 01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,519 Speaker 3: an important player for him for them last. Year i'd 1631 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,920 Speaker 3: rather start On Men thompson because he's a young guy 1632 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,120 Speaker 3: and you need to see what you got going. Forward 1633 01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,719 Speaker 3: because their contracts kind of line up him And Dylan. 1634 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,080 Speaker 3: Brooks Maybe brooks is the guy that gets. Traded there's 1635 01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,200 Speaker 3: just so many players on this, team so many questions 1636 01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,920 Speaker 3: to answer that it can be hard to actually get 1637 01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 3: everybody on the. Court it's, like, man this is awesome 1638 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,760 Speaker 3: That Steven adams is coming. Back set some screams be a. Vet, 1639 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,360 Speaker 3: okay is he playing Over? Shangoon is he playing Over Jabari? 1640 01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,200 Speaker 3: Smith is he playing Over Jeff green who played seventy 1641 01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,640 Speaker 3: six games for this team last? Year Jason tata is 1642 01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,800 Speaker 3: still around? Now was the guy people were hyped out 1643 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,519 Speaker 3: once upon a. TIME i Like Tary, easton but is 1644 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:17,439 Speaker 3: he gonna get on the? COURT i don't. Know just 1645 01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:21,000 Speaker 3: a lot of players, around and The rockets actually have 1646 01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,599 Speaker 3: to start figuring out who's going to be a part 1647 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:23,800 Speaker 3: of this. 1648 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,559 Speaker 1: Future, yeah it feels like they should be better than 1649 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,439 Speaker 1: forty one and forty one last, year just with the 1650 01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,360 Speaker 1: growth of all these young. Guys but a lot of 1651 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,160 Speaker 1: question marks as you just went, through of like who 1652 01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,160 Speaker 1: are you, playing who are you pairing? With how does this? 1653 01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 1: WORK i, MEAN i guess that's a good issue to. 1654 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,000 Speaker 1: Have you have all this, talent you just got to 1655 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,160 Speaker 1: like put all the pieces. TOGETHER i do think they 1656 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 1: could still have another level to go defensively that sorry 1657 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,640 Speaker 1: Of yudoka's calling. CARD i think they have guys that 1658 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,200 Speaker 1: can get them even higher than tenth that they finished 1659 01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,240 Speaker 1: in defensive, rating which is really good for a young, 1660 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,760 Speaker 1: team but they could go up a. Step they need 1661 01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,160 Speaker 1: to win road games is their main. Thing they went 1662 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,760 Speaker 1: fourteen and twenty seven on the road last, year one 1663 01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,160 Speaker 1: of the worst in The Western. Conference if they want 1664 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 1: to crack the play in, tournament you gotta clean that 1665 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,280 Speaker 1: up a little, bit, Right you just gotta win more 1666 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,720 Speaker 1: of those road, games AND i think they. Will i'm 1667 01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,120 Speaker 1: gonna go. OVER i have faith in this. TEAM i 1668 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:10,439 Speaker 1: have a lot of faith In yudoka is just as 1669 01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,840 Speaker 1: a head, coach and, MAN i love The adams coming 1670 01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,720 Speaker 1: in there now and Read, Shepherd you're right like just 1671 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,479 Speaker 1: a shooter and then obviously a. Playmaker feels like they 1672 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 1: can just have like like again it's up to him 1673 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:22,960 Speaker 1: to figure, out but, like really forty eight minutes of 1674 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 1: quality minutes at every position because they have so many, 1675 01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,400 Speaker 1: guys but can it all. Click i'll go just over 1676 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,280 Speaker 1: though that they will be a little bit closer to 1677 01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,720 Speaker 1: sniffing the plan or maybe even getting in. There this. 1678 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,680 Speaker 1: Year it's gonna take probably like it did last, year, 1679 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,880 Speaker 1: right forty five forty, six so sort of forty seven 1680 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:42,599 Speaker 1: Win Mark Memphis grizzlies forty seven and a. Half. 1681 01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:43,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1682 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,559 Speaker 1: Yeah they went twenty seven and fifty five last, year 1683 01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:51,040 Speaker 1: finished thirteenth worst offensive team in the. League their season 1684 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,120 Speaker 1: was basically a wash With Ja morant's twenty five game 1685 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,680 Speaker 1: suspension to, Start denny had season ending, injury and there 1686 01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,040 Speaker 1: was a bunch of other. Injuries bright spots where G, 1687 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,439 Speaker 1: Jackson Vince, williams they sort of emerged as rotational. Players 1688 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,360 Speaker 1: they re Signed Luke, kenard they Added Zach, edie the 1689 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 1: big guy with the number nine pick in the. DRAFT 1690 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,360 Speaker 1: i Added jill and Will wells in the second round as. 1691 01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 1: Well Lost, Goodwin, Stevens, Watanabe, Williams Derrek rose, Retired Trey 1692 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:18,720 Speaker 1: getta started here forty seven and a. HALF i, mean 1693 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,840 Speaker 1: this is Obviously vegas Going they're going to bounce back 1694 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,640 Speaker 1: to what they were two seasons, ago three seasons ago 1695 01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,799 Speaker 1: when they had a healthy drummerant and a healthy. Squad 1696 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:26,240 Speaker 1: do you believe? 1697 01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,479 Speaker 4: IT i tend to agree with the projection. 1698 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,160 Speaker 3: Here i'm going to go over BECAUSE i think at 1699 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 3: the very, least The grizzlies are going to be a 1700 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 3: good regular season team with the style they, play the, 1701 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 3: toughness the fast. Breaking sometimes the shooting becomes a problem 1702 01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,679 Speaker 3: in the. Playoffs AND i mean when your best outside 1703 01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:46,200 Speaker 3: shooter outside Of Edismon baine is Like Marcus smart in 1704 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,439 Speaker 3: the starting, LINEUP i don't know that's a question mark to. 1705 01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:49,720 Speaker 4: Me Marcus, smart he's on The. 1706 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,720 Speaker 3: GRIZZLIES i think that's something to forget, about, Ye but, 1707 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:54,800 Speaker 3: YEAH i like the look of this. Team, unfortunately all 1708 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,439 Speaker 3: their juniors are banged up right, NOW, Gg jared And 1709 01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,080 Speaker 3: vince all banged. Up i'm not a big fan of 1710 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,400 Speaker 3: their depth. Either WHEN i look at, him good That 1711 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 3: Brandon clark is, Back but other than, that It's Luke, 1712 01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:07,960 Speaker 3: Canard santi Al dama who for me is in the 1713 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,840 Speaker 3: beat crazie versus true underrated players that people don't know. 1714 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,800 Speaker 3: About he is, Good Santi aldama is. Good conchar is. 1715 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,479 Speaker 3: Not La rabia is. Not this is a team that 1716 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,160 Speaker 3: used to have like ten great, players but some of 1717 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,720 Speaker 3: those guys have been, leaving Like Kyle anderson is. Gone 1718 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,920 Speaker 3: they used to Have Jonas valanciunis, Around they used to 1719 01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,519 Speaker 3: Have Steven adams. Around they don't really have any wings 1720 01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:31,080 Speaker 3: WITH Gg jackson going. Down Vince williams will be helpful, 1721 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:34,840 Speaker 3: there but Like Marcus smart is gonna have a big responsibility, 1722 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,920 Speaker 3: defensively and he's a Former Defensive player of The. Year 1723 01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,040 Speaker 3: we'll see if he can get back to that. Level 1724 01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:41,440 Speaker 3: but weird, Team. 1725 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 4: BUT i like. 1726 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:43,880 Speaker 1: IT i like the over for the Grizz oh forty 1727 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:45,640 Speaker 1: son and a half. Over what do you, Think, Tess. 1728 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,840 Speaker 2: I'm going under part of the reasons that you. Said 1729 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:52,280 Speaker 2: they're banged, up as you, SAID Gg, Jackson Vince, WILLIAMS Jjj, 1730 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,679 Speaker 2: JACKSON J Jackson junior also. HURT i mean that's a good. 1731 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,360 Speaker 1: Chunk John morant just hurt his ankle in. Preseason, ESPECTUALLY i, think, 1732 01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:01,280 Speaker 1: yeah a bunch of. 1733 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 2: Weird apparently he'll be. Fun, yeah, yeah But i'm not 1734 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,519 Speaker 2: sure If Brandon clark's return is going to be all that. 1735 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,240 Speaker 2: Great off the, Bat Marcus smart missed a lot of 1736 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,800 Speaker 2: time last. Year was that just because they wanted to 1737 01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,280 Speaker 2: plummet for a? Pick i'm not. SURE i, Mean Marcus 1738 01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,719 Speaker 2: mar's a guy who's played hard for his whole, career 1739 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:19,280 Speaker 2: and he's started to slow down the last couple of. 1740 01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,840 Speaker 2: Years SO i think those injuries are a factor in 1741 01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:26,920 Speaker 2: a Tough. West, Yeah i'm excited to See Zach edy 1742 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,599 Speaker 2: play Alongside Jared Jackson junior when they're both. Healthy if 1743 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,719 Speaker 2: If jared Jacks junior goes to the foig And zachie 1744 01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,639 Speaker 2: ends up, starting that is. Exciting John, Morant, yes he got, 1745 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,080 Speaker 2: hurt but he also threw a beauty alley to Zach 1746 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,400 Speaker 2: edy who threw it down and he had a block 1747 01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:42,320 Speaker 2: in that. Game so's that's. Exciting BUT i think there's 1748 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,559 Speaker 2: a few. THINGS i, mean the, injuries The, west AND 1749 01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,120 Speaker 2: i don't know about, this this home court advantage That 1750 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:49,840 Speaker 2: memphis used to. Have we went to the, Game we're. 1751 01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:53,479 Speaker 2: Excited this is. Fun they went under some, renovations they 1752 01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:55,720 Speaker 2: got some new foods on the food. Court as a 1753 01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,280 Speaker 2: man Laying whitaker, said but they won nine games Food 1754 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,519 Speaker 2: they wouldn't nine games at home last, year nine thirty. 1755 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,920 Speaker 2: Two how does that? HAPPEN i, mean they're way better 1756 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,400 Speaker 2: on the road when they went double the games on the. Road, 1757 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,120 Speaker 2: now is that just BECAUSE i don't? Know bad feelings at? 1758 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:11,719 Speaker 1: Home bad food in the? Concourse? 1759 01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,559 Speaker 4: Apparently SO i GUESS i had a brisket notcho. 1760 01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,040 Speaker 3: There it was really, Good, yeah. Delicious but Maybe lang 1761 01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,719 Speaker 3: is opening in its Own. Kiosk cooking With lang cooking 1762 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,800 Speaker 3: With lang'll tune into griz dot com see what he. 1763 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,439 Speaker 5: Makes you can buy it at. Night that's a great. 1764 01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,400 Speaker 5: Promotion he would go with that. Brisket he loves cooking the. 1765 01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,840 Speaker 5: Meats BUT i don't, know it's just it's JUST i 1766 01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,639 Speaker 5: think there's too many questions being in The Western. Conference 1767 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:35,280 Speaker 5: So i'm gonna take the. 1768 01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,559 Speaker 1: Under i'm going under because they could still win twenty 1769 01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:39,519 Speaker 1: more games than they won last year and still actually 1770 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,080 Speaker 1: hit the. UNDER i think they'll Be they're going to 1771 01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,880 Speaker 1: be in the play and race, personally is WHAT i. 1772 01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,519 Speaker 1: Believe and again that's gonna be forty, four forty, five forty, 1773 01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,040 Speaker 1: Six SO i think they'll just go. Under it will 1774 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,200 Speaker 1: be a much improved. Year we sort of get into 1775 01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,559 Speaker 1: like we talked about stars raising the level of a. 1776 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,920 Speaker 1: Team jaw is. THAT i, mean he plays and it 1777 01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,200 Speaker 1: feels like they're more of a forty five to fifty one. 1778 01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,600 Speaker 1: Team so if he's, helty then they're going to be 1779 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,880 Speaker 1: around that. Mark But i'll go just. UNDER i just 1780 01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,200 Speaker 1: think the rest of The west we're talking about those 1781 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,040 Speaker 1: couple of years. AGO i think it's, improved and like you, 1782 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,720 Speaker 1: KNOW i Guess i'm almost convinced like The rockets might 1783 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,519 Speaker 1: have a better record than The, grizzlies or at least 1784 01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,720 Speaker 1: very very. Close so the math ain't, math and for, 1785 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:17,519 Speaker 1: ME i gotta go under on the Grizz two more 1786 01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,680 Speaker 1: teams left The pelicans forty six and a. Half they 1787 01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,840 Speaker 1: went forty nine and thirty. Three last. Year they lost 1788 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,840 Speaker 1: To okac in the first. Round they were really good 1789 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:28,960 Speaker 1: defensively sixth, overall eleventh offensive. Rating zion went down with 1790 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:32,160 Speaker 1: a late season. Injury he was really good when, healthy 1791 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,320 Speaker 1: and you know they did win forty nine. Games got 1792 01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:39,320 Speaker 1: contributions From ingram and McCollum And Trey. Murphy they added 1793 01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:45,040 Speaker 1: To Jonte, murray they Signed Javonte, Green Daniel, Tice Dyson daniel's, 1794 01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,400 Speaker 1: Gone Larry nance, Junior Cody zeller all traded to The, 1795 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,000 Speaker 1: hawks and That murray. Trade Valancoun is, gone Al Jiam marshall. 1796 01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:54,240 Speaker 1: Gone De Jontay murray's the big part. Here trey added 1797 01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,320 Speaker 1: To zion still for, now Brandon ingram still for? NOW. Cj. 1798 01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:01,000 Speaker 1: McCollum are they a better team than forty six and a? 1799 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:01,680 Speaker 2: Half to? 1800 01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:02,599 Speaker 4: You forty nine? 1801 01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,679 Speaker 3: Wins with another surpriser one for, ME i like Man, 1802 01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,040 Speaker 3: pelicans especially considering they didn't have like a great early 1803 01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,320 Speaker 3: season From. Zion you, know the guy who's getting dunked 1804 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,960 Speaker 3: on like crazy during the nd season. Tournament people are, 1805 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,519 Speaker 3: saying lose some, weight, Buddy so he, did but he 1806 01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:19,160 Speaker 3: also got hurt last. Year this team feels so unsettled to. 1807 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,000 Speaker 3: Me how much Is zion going to? Play are they 1808 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,519 Speaker 3: going to Trade ingram who's actually starting for this? 1809 01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:24,960 Speaker 4: Team LIKE. 1810 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,719 Speaker 3: Cj McCollum has been around for a long, time respected, 1811 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,880 Speaker 3: Dude time for him to come off the. Bench Is 1812 01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,680 Speaker 3: Daniel tye really going to be their starting? CENTER a 1813 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,880 Speaker 3: very weird Team i'm going under just because a few 1814 01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:37,840 Speaker 3: too many question marks for me to. 1815 01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,040 Speaker 4: Answer but Maybe zion. 1816 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:41,680 Speaker 3: Can be a fifty win, guy, Right, like maybe he 1817 01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,839 Speaker 3: can be the kind of player who win he's healthy 1818 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,800 Speaker 3: and on the, court lifts a team to fifty wins. 1819 01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,640 Speaker 4: EASILY i could definitely see that happening with The. 1820 01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,719 Speaker 3: Pelicans but this is a team to me that will 1821 01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,960 Speaker 3: probably be better at the end of the season than 1822 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:56,400 Speaker 3: they are at the beginning of the season when they're 1823 01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:57,639 Speaker 3: having to figure out all this weird. 1824 01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,920 Speaker 2: Stuff, yeah they do have a lot of clouds hanging 1825 01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,880 Speaker 2: the Brandon ingram is kind of a cloud hanging over 1826 01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:06,559 Speaker 2: the trade talk that happens all the. Time cyrus Cloud serrus. 1827 01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:10,519 Speaker 2: Next oh, yeah and they're flying around here and just 1828 01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:10,920 Speaker 2: like your. 1829 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,400 Speaker 3: Voice, there, yeah spitting too much hot fire. 1830 01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:19,599 Speaker 2: Here we see those clouds around here in the. SOUTH 1831 01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,639 Speaker 2: a lot of chemicals going up in the. South winds are. 1832 01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:26,640 Speaker 2: Happening it's. HAPPENING i do, think you, know in the, 1833 01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,800 Speaker 2: summer we have all these sort of fictional tales about 1834 01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,559 Speaker 2: guys who are getting stronger and bigger and working. OUT 1835 01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,200 Speaker 2: i think The Zion williamson thing is the most believable 1836 01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,639 Speaker 2: out of all of, them because, yes he did get 1837 01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,680 Speaker 2: hurt last, year but it was basically on the last 1838 01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,479 Speaker 2: couple of, years If David, griffin their front office, leader, 1839 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,880 Speaker 2: Saying zion's gotta get, Better son's got to get, Healthier 1840 01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,479 Speaker 2: sion's gonna get more. Shape and this year he basically 1841 01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,960 Speaker 2: Said i'm doing. It he said him out for straight, 1842 01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:55,720 Speaker 2: vengeance not against any particular, person just for. Myself and 1843 01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,919 Speaker 2: it sure looks like he's. Healthy sure looks like everybody 1844 01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:00,760 Speaker 2: In New orleans is going to start growing a. Beard 1845 01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,840 Speaker 2: if you're a male who can grow a, beard you're 1846 01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,640 Speaker 2: gonna look Like zion won you want to want to 1847 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,920 Speaker 2: look like that. Guy and SO i think that even 1848 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,160 Speaker 2: if they have some clouds hanging over, them just just with, 1849 01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:14,840 Speaker 2: yeah they're questionable. DEPTH i, Mean i'm A Daniel tice, 1850 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,680 Speaker 2: guy but watching him out there and then when he 1851 01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:19,240 Speaker 2: goes to the bench and who is gonna play the? 1852 01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:20,720 Speaker 2: FIVE i think they're gonna play small And zion is 1853 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,400 Speaker 2: gonna play more of the. Five AND i do have 1854 01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,519 Speaker 2: faith that he'll play again a lot of, GAMES i 1855 01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,519 Speaker 2: should say, Again So i'm gonna take the OVER i 1856 01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,639 Speaker 2: just think they have a lot of. Talent are you. 1857 01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,320 Speaker 1: Concerned of the overlap between To Johntay murray And Brandon 1858 01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:36,759 Speaker 1: ingram how they, Play, yeah. 1859 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:37,080 Speaker 4: They're the same. 1860 01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,840 Speaker 3: Guy, yeah one is, taller one's a serious, cloud and 1861 01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:42,400 Speaker 3: one is a Smaller Cerrus. 1862 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:46,960 Speaker 1: Cloud H, Murray Zion, Ingram, Murphy Herb, Jones. Alvarado they're 1863 01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,519 Speaker 1: all like in their prime or near, it so they're 1864 01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,559 Speaker 1: all sort of on that same trajectory in terms of. 1865 01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,320 Speaker 1: Age but you, guys, men they have no. 1866 01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,320 Speaker 4: Size they have no. 1867 01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:01,080 Speaker 1: Size it's. Entice they don't Have Larry Dance junior, anymore you, 1868 01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,120 Speaker 1: know to play at center as sort of a guy 1869 01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,080 Speaker 1: that can play above the rim a little, bit Or 1870 01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:06,960 Speaker 1: Cody zeller. EVEN i, mean those guys went in this 1871 01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,000 Speaker 1: De Jontay murray. Trade, well how are they going to fix? 1872 01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:11,800 Speaker 1: That and is that a part of The ingram trade 1873 01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,200 Speaker 1: or some sort of a column. Trade Like i'm with, 1874 01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,400 Speaker 1: You i'm buying The zion. HYPE i think just even 1875 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,080 Speaker 1: forget physically as important as that is for, HIM i 1876 01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,360 Speaker 1: think mentally it feels like he's coming in in a 1877 01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:27,200 Speaker 1: better headspace into this. Year SO i am gonna go. 1878 01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:29,519 Speaker 1: OVER i am gonna go over on forty six and a. 1879 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:33,519 Speaker 1: HALF i don't get why they're going to bed not, 1880 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:37,800 Speaker 1: drastically but worse than they were last year with, maybe you, 1881 01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,760 Speaker 1: know the the injection of De Jontay. MURRAY i guess 1882 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,240 Speaker 1: that's the. THING i guess people are. SAYING i don't 1883 01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:45,040 Speaker 1: think that's gonna work work With ingram, there but somebody's 1884 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:49,800 Speaker 1: got to get, Traded like somebody's gonna trade For. Ingram they. 1885 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:51,639 Speaker 1: Will they don't want to right, now BUT i think 1886 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:55,840 Speaker 1: they will inevitably when a season goes awry FOR x 1887 01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,520 Speaker 1: team and then the packages put, Together. 1888 01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,600 Speaker 4: Rockets can As warriors. 1889 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:02,479 Speaker 1: There's, teams, teams there's. 1890 01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,000 Speaker 2: Teams and if there's any defense That Jontay murray will 1891 01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:06,880 Speaker 2: start to play like his old good defense, itself it's 1892 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:10,120 Speaker 2: probably The pelicans because they're, good all. 1893 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,320 Speaker 1: Right i'm going just over a, year just, over, yeah 1894 01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,320 Speaker 1: and tkgo and just. Under final Team San Antonio spurs 1895 01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:19,519 Speaker 1: thirty six and a half high, line big nine for 1896 01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,400 Speaker 1: a team that went twenty two and sixty last, year 1897 01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:25,040 Speaker 1: finished fourteenth in The, west lower third on both sides 1898 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,120 Speaker 1: of the ball in terms of offense, rating defensive. Rating you, 1899 01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:32,320 Speaker 1: know they land generational talent in Women yama and they 1900 01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,519 Speaker 1: still lost what twenty six of twenty eight games from 1901 01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,599 Speaker 1: late fall to, Midwinter, like there was a bad stretch. 1902 01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,040 Speaker 1: There we were all caught up in the in The 1903 01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:44,080 Speaker 1: pistons losing. Streak but The spurs were rough. There now 1904 01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,479 Speaker 1: they were doing some weird, things you, know pop was getting. 1905 01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:50,920 Speaker 1: Funky but here they are at thirty six and a. 1906 01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:51,320 Speaker 4: Half. 1907 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,160 Speaker 1: Now they Added Harrison, barnes they Added Chris paul so 1908 01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,000 Speaker 1: some vets in but they Drafted Stefan castle with the 1909 01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,960 Speaker 1: number four. Pick he had a big throwdown in. Preseason 1910 01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:05,519 Speaker 1: they Resigned Charles, bassi they re Signed sandro. Mamu i'm 1911 01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,760 Speaker 1: just calling a. Mom i'm not going to attempt to 1912 01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,120 Speaker 1: say that last. Name they Lost, Barlow Devonte, Graham Jeddy. 1913 01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,160 Speaker 1: Osmond they didn't lose a. Lot but this line to 1914 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,720 Speaker 1: me feels high at thirty six and a. Half but 1915 01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,639 Speaker 1: maybe that's, like, hey Maybe wemby is for. Real maybe, 1916 01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:24,200 Speaker 1: he's you, know Like lebron in his second. YEAR i 1917 01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,000 Speaker 1: think had The cavs at forty two and forty you 1918 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:29,920 Speaker 1: know above five. Hundred took one year for. Him you, 1919 01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,519 Speaker 1: know how did He Anthony? DAVIS i don't think it 1920 01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,240 Speaker 1: went as well in his second year with The. Pelican 1921 01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,439 Speaker 1: i'm trying to think of like generational number one picks 1922 01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,439 Speaker 1: that's sort Of wenby obviously lumps into. 1923 01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:39,920 Speaker 2: It so that's what they're banking on, here Tasks, oh, 1924 01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,400 Speaker 2: absolutely are? You that's what this line is. About it's 1925 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:46,800 Speaker 2: about do you believe In? Victor? NOW i. Do i'm buying. It, 1926 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:50,679 Speaker 2: Whoa i'm buying. It i'm buying the the talk from 1927 01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,600 Speaker 2: everybody around, him to talk from. HIM i, mean he 1928 01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,719 Speaker 2: went as simple as, saying you know, WHAT i gotta 1929 01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:00,920 Speaker 2: play like fundamental, basketball just the simple and If Victor. 1930 01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:06,240 Speaker 2: Wambinama this giant can just get, simple he is going 1931 01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,519 Speaker 2: to get a lot. BETTER i mean it's simple as 1932 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,880 Speaker 2: that he's bigger than everybody and if he can handle 1933 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,880 Speaker 2: a little bit better like he did this offseason even 1934 01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,519 Speaker 2: when he played For, FRANCE i mean he looked like 1935 01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,679 Speaker 2: he he stepped into three point, Shots like the first 1936 01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,679 Speaker 2: shot of The france team was a step back three 1937 01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:25,880 Speaker 2: from that. GUY i, mean if he's, good it just 1938 01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:27,920 Speaker 2: like he, said the fundamental has just taking the ball 1939 01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:29,920 Speaker 2: like a guard to the. Hoop if he can do, 1940 01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,519 Speaker 2: that who's gonna stop? Him SO i think that's a big. 1941 01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:34,559 Speaker 2: Part and he gained twenty six. POUNDS i think he 1942 01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:38,160 Speaker 2: should try and get one point per pound per. Game 1943 01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,320 Speaker 2: should be his, Goal like twenty six points per, game 1944 01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,160 Speaker 2: that's the. GOAL i got twenty six, POUNDS i got 1945 01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,320 Speaker 2: twenty six. Points AND i just think this team has, 1946 01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,519 Speaker 2: got you, know a pretty good chemistry around, him you, 1947 01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,400 Speaker 2: know With Chris paul, Obviously Stefan castle is pretty damn. 1948 01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,920 Speaker 2: Good Keldon johnson picked a new, number he went from 1949 01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,479 Speaker 2: zero to three that he's wearing because he's a new 1950 01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,759 Speaker 2: player and he's a good player that we've all forgotten. 1951 01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,599 Speaker 2: About and this team was just. Good With speaking of good, 1952 01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,240 Speaker 2: Players Greg pofy is gonna play. Them last year he, said, 1953 01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,960 Speaker 2: Hey Jeremy, stihan you're playing point? Guard WHAT i made no? 1954 01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:07,880 Speaker 2: Sense so he takes him off the. Floor he puts 1955 01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:10,840 Speaker 2: Wem minyamo With Trey. Jones in mid middle of the, 1956 01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,400 Speaker 2: season they were good and. Improved, yeah what was? It it 1957 01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,680 Speaker 2: was plus four five point two per hundred possessions and 1958 01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,200 Speaker 2: then you Add Devin vassel in they're they're plus ten point. 1959 01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:22,080 Speaker 2: Two those numbers are really. Good SO i think people 1960 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:26,160 Speaker 2: weren't paying attention to this. Team same for me at, 1961 01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,280 Speaker 2: times but once they got, GOOD i think it's just 1962 01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:29,120 Speaker 2: got to carry over to. 1963 01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,280 Speaker 1: Me they were an abysmal thirteen and twenty. Eight that 1964 01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,879 Speaker 1: was the record in clutch time. Situations so you gotta 1965 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,840 Speaker 1: Think Chris paul and Even Harrison barnes helps in that 1966 01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,160 Speaker 1: department if you're in close games to close them out 1967 01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:45,160 Speaker 1: and get some more ws along obviously riding Wemen yama 1968 01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,800 Speaker 1: And vassell And Kelvin johnson And johan and maybe a better. 1969 01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,000 Speaker 1: Role but thirty six and a half is a hell 1970 01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,479 Speaker 1: of a jump, here tk in All i've heard for 1971 01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,200 Speaker 1: every team, is how loaded The Western conference is and 1972 01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,280 Speaker 1: how difficult it. Is task is convinced That wemby can 1973 01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,800 Speaker 1: get them To. No thirty seven? Plus are you as? 1974 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:03,599 Speaker 4: CONVINCED i am not as. 1975 01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:07,160 Speaker 3: Convinced Okay lebron in his second season forty two, wins 1976 01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:08,320 Speaker 3: you're exactly that's pretty. 1977 01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:12,439 Speaker 4: Good Brendan malone was the coach the second half of that. 1978 01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:13,640 Speaker 4: Season what a weird team this. 1979 01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,519 Speaker 3: Is, look The spurs won eleven games before The All star, 1980 01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,920 Speaker 3: break and Then Trey jones became the point guard and 1981 01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,600 Speaker 3: they won eleven games after The All star. Break that 1982 01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,200 Speaker 3: was a lot better than we played twenty seven game 1983 01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,679 Speaker 3: All star. Break that was literally like a thirty five 1984 01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,160 Speaker 3: thirty six win. Pace BUT i was like a Young 1985 01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:31,760 Speaker 3: follies with the proofs. HERE i was going through wind 1986 01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:35,439 Speaker 3: shares per forty eight. Minutes frost with who played the 1987 01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,840 Speaker 3: most minutes in the league last, year trying to, say 1988 01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:41,479 Speaker 3: If Victor Webber yama becomes literally the best player in 1989 01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,639 Speaker 3: THE nba and plays the most minutes in THE, nba 1990 01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:50,440 Speaker 3: The spurs get to like exactly forty. Wins, interesting but 1991 01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,360 Speaker 3: imagine he's only a top five player and he only 1992 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:58,240 Speaker 3: plays twenty five hundred. Minutes then they're underneath, there they're 1993 01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,360 Speaker 3: over under, Here SO i think they'll be a lot. 1994 01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,680 Speaker 3: Better BUT i don't think The spurs are trying to 1995 01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,240 Speaker 3: hit the gas all that. Quickly they traded a lottery 1996 01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,080 Speaker 3: pick this year for one further down the. Line they 1997 01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,400 Speaker 3: did bring In Chris paul And Harrison, barnes veteran dudes 1998 01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,160 Speaker 3: who are gonna help the team be a little bit more. 1999 01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,559 Speaker 3: Professional you saw how much better they were With Trey, 2000 01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,720 Speaker 3: jones who was probably like the worst starting point guard 2001 01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,160 Speaker 3: in the. League Chris, paul he's not The Chris paul Of, 2002 01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,840 Speaker 3: bold but he's gonna help this. Team so expecting a 2003 01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,000 Speaker 3: huge season From. VICTOR i think he'll be an ALL nba. 2004 01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:29,280 Speaker 3: PLAYER i think he could be a top ten guy 2005 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,920 Speaker 3: in the league pretty. EASILY i don't think he'll be 2006 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:33,760 Speaker 3: the number one, guy AND i don't think he'll play 2007 01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:34,240 Speaker 3: three thousand. 2008 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:35,880 Speaker 4: Minutes ERGO i have to be under. 2009 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,639 Speaker 1: Here, Yeah i'm going Under obviously an approved. Season those 2010 01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,240 Speaker 1: guys are gonna. Help they're gonna win some of those 2011 01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,840 Speaker 1: close games more WITH cp three And Harrison barnes And 2012 01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,760 Speaker 1: wemby should continue on his trajectory to be you, know, 2013 01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,160 Speaker 1: look maybe one of the greatest we ever. See BUT 2014 01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:51,400 Speaker 1: i think that's a hell of a jump they're asking 2015 01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,080 Speaker 1: for there in a loaded. Conference So i'll go just. 2016 01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:57,519 Speaker 1: Under but over thirty, wins, yes over thirty seven or 2017 01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,400 Speaker 1: getting over thirty. Seven, no that's The. West that's fifteen. Teams, 2018 01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:03,439 Speaker 1: now let's get our, picks let's get our, locks the 2019 01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:06,920 Speaker 1: three you're most confident about, task get us started. Again my, 2020 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:07,559 Speaker 1: man who are your? 2021 01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:11,360 Speaker 2: Three The Denver nuggets are not. Dead Nicole oki is 2022 01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,120 Speaker 2: one of the best players in the. Game he asked 2023 01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,240 Speaker 2: For Russell westbrook in the offseason to get him. There 2024 01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:18,400 Speaker 2: he Got Russell. Westbrook SO i don't. THINK i don't 2025 01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,640 Speaker 2: Think Nicole oka is gonna go. Away you're just not 2026 01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:23,080 Speaker 2: gonna DECIDE i don't want to play. BASKETBALL i know 2027 01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,240 Speaker 2: we all, think, oh he doesn't like basketball all that. 2028 01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,320 Speaker 2: Much that's bull. Crap he's just one of the best 2029 01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:29,280 Speaker 2: players in the. WORLD i think fifty one and a 2030 01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,280 Speaker 2: half is way too low for this. TEAM i believe 2031 01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:34,000 Speaker 2: In Christian, BROWN i believe in the guys who will 2032 01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:38,120 Speaker 2: substitute in FOR. KCP i Think Dario sarchiz should be 2033 01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:41,600 Speaker 2: respected in this. LEAGUE i go over fifty one and a. 2034 01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:42,920 Speaker 1: Half, Okay, okay keep it. 2035 01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,600 Speaker 2: Going, Yeah i'm under in The Memphis. Grizzlies there's just 2036 01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:48,720 Speaker 2: too many things. There there's too many. Injuries it is 2037 01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,120 Speaker 2: a Tough, west, obviously there's JUST i don't know About 2038 01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:54,880 Speaker 2: marcus mart being healthy. Anymore so the question marks for 2039 01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:59,120 Speaker 2: me are. Real they have a lot of injuries, now 2040 01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,240 Speaker 2: gonna get. WORSE i do think so fir seven and a. 2041 01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,680 Speaker 2: Half ALTHOUGH i looked at it, FIRST i, said, Well 2042 01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,160 Speaker 2: john's gonna get them back. THERE i think the sporting 2043 01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,960 Speaker 2: guys just aren't good. Enough that being, SAID i do 2044 01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,240 Speaker 2: think sporting guys for The Oklahoma City thunder are good 2045 01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,519 Speaker 2: enough to get them over fifty six and a. Half 2046 01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:17,800 Speaker 2: it is a tough, line BUT i do think they're 2047 01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,040 Speaker 2: just too. Good they had fifty seven wins last year 2048 01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,639 Speaker 2: and got, better so it would be weird to see 2049 01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:27,160 Speaker 2: that in terms of their. Acquisitions plus just the guy's 2050 01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:29,320 Speaker 2: getting a little, older Like Jaylen. Williams he's just a 2051 01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:30,840 Speaker 2: good player to At, holmgers just a good player and 2052 01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:34,200 Speaker 2: he's super. Young so that, COMBINED i go. Over SO 2053 01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:37,759 Speaker 2: i got, okay see Over, grizzlies Under nuggets. 2054 01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:40,200 Speaker 1: Over, Okay trey where are you? Going in The, west we. 2055 01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:42,760 Speaker 3: Got some, overlap, Buddy, OH i too like The Oklahoma 2056 01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:47,439 Speaker 3: City thunder over not. Under on The, thunder we're going 2057 01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:52,400 Speaker 3: over fifty seven wins and they got. Better that's. Awesome shake. 2058 01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:57,479 Speaker 3: Kill Just alexander's wearing long. Shorts we love, It we love. 2059 01:31:57,479 --> 01:31:59,320 Speaker 3: It will he be able to go between the legs 2060 01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:02,240 Speaker 3: the way he likes? TOO i don't. Know he stretches 2061 01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,479 Speaker 3: them out way. Far those things will be billowing. Skates 2062 01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:07,879 Speaker 3: you gotta be. CAREFUL i also like The Phoenix suns 2063 01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,800 Speaker 3: over forty seven and a. Half i'm a bud ball. 2064 01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:18,960 Speaker 3: Boy we Got Nurkicen jones leading us to fifty plus. Wins, 2065 01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,680 Speaker 3: NOW i do like the fun The sun's, over and 2066 01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,040 Speaker 3: then my under That i'm locking in is The Utah. 2067 01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:26,040 Speaker 3: JAZZ i think they don't want to try and win 2068 01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,439 Speaker 3: thirty ish. Games they would be happier in the twenty 2069 01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:29,120 Speaker 3: to twenty. 2070 01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:29,360 Speaker 4: Five. 2071 01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,479 Speaker 1: Wow this is a lot different than The Eastern, conference 2072 01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:34,240 Speaker 1: WHERE i was surprised because we don't talk about this, 2073 01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,240 Speaker 1: beforehand where we had we all had nine different picks 2074 01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,439 Speaker 1: when we did our locks in The. East but there's 2075 01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:41,400 Speaker 1: some overlap. Here i'm with some of you guys on 2076 01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,800 Speaker 1: both of. THEM i did one from each. Division, Again 2077 01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,840 Speaker 1: i'm With. TESS i like The nuggets over fifty one 2078 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,720 Speaker 1: and a. Half Jamal murray is not, Dead, Okay they're. 2079 01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:52,439 Speaker 1: Not your kitch is always going to get you fifty. 2080 01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:54,680 Speaker 1: Wins he can hear the, horses he can hear them, 2081 01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:56,600 Speaker 1: grazing but that's. Okay he'll get to them in the. 2082 01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,120 Speaker 1: Summer they're gonna win fifty two games. PLUS i have 2083 01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,360 Speaker 1: confidence in. THAT i think from you, know The westbrook. Injection, 2084 01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:05,080 Speaker 1: sure but it's more to me The Christian, brown The, 2085 01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:09,400 Speaker 1: watson The, strawther the little improvement. THERE i Like nuggets. 2086 01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:11,960 Speaker 1: Over i'm with, YOU. TK i like The jazz under 2087 01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:13,640 Speaker 1: twenty nine and a. HALF i think they're going to 2088 01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:15,760 Speaker 1: lean into playing the young guys and it's going to 2089 01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,640 Speaker 1: result in a lot of. Losses that's, okay try and 2090 01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:21,800 Speaker 1: go capture the flag AND i will also go one more. 2091 01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:25,400 Speaker 1: Under disagreeing With tass one of his. Leans at, Least 2092 01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:28,559 Speaker 1: i'm taking The spurs under thirty six and a. HALF 2093 01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:31,080 Speaker 1: i looked it. Up you Said lebron second season forty 2094 01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,840 Speaker 1: two and. Forty, okay that's that's. Incredible maybe when you 2095 01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:37,080 Speaker 1: can do. It Anthony davis with The pels thirty four 2096 01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,720 Speaker 1: and forty, eight that would just be. Under and Even 2097 01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:42,000 Speaker 1: zion with The pells second, season and he played a 2098 01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:45,120 Speaker 1: decent chunk that year thirty one and forty, one so 2099 01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,720 Speaker 1: a shortened season would have got very. Close But i'll 2100 01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:50,720 Speaker 1: go just around that mark Like ad And. ZION i 2101 01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:53,200 Speaker 1: Think wemby gets symptom to like the thirty three to 2102 01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,479 Speaker 1: thirty five win. Mark So nuggets Over, jazz, Under spurs 2103 01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:00,720 Speaker 1: under those are the. Picks but tell us where we're, 2104 01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,800 Speaker 1: right where we're, wrong your. Locks drop them in the. 2105 01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,000 Speaker 1: Comments love to hear from. You tweet at us At 2106 01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:08,719 Speaker 1: no Dunk. Sinc all, right we've done all thirty. Teams 2107 01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to over. Unders On, friday we're going 2108 01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:16,120 Speaker 1: to be DOING Nba award. Projections, yeah that's, right we're gonna. 2109 01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:17,840 Speaker 1: BE i think what we should do is pick your 2110 01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:19,719 Speaker 1: favorite who you think is gonna, win and then maybe 2111 01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,719 Speaker 1: a dark horse like somebody not in the top ten 2112 01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,800 Speaker 1: odds or something like. THAT i got real stab in the. 2113 01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:28,240 Speaker 1: Dark but we'll be going THROUGH, Mvp rookie of The, 2114 01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:31,200 Speaker 1: Year Most, improved all your major. Awards that's On friday 2115 01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,599 Speaker 1: live at ten Am. Eastern appreciate you guys joining us live, 2116 01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:36,760 Speaker 1: though hit the like, button, subscribe five star, ratings and 2117 01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:40,640 Speaker 1: review if you're A survivor. Fan it's on tonight And 2118 01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:43,760 Speaker 1: No bus is back tomorrow eleven Am. Eastern we're gonna 2119 01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:47,439 Speaker 1: go live On No buff's YouTube account to recap episode. 2120 01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:52,160 Speaker 1: Four they're gonna be throwing a bag through a frame 2121 01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:54,320 Speaker 1: back good, shot. 2122 01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:57,800 Speaker 2: Soul it's like the skills. Competition, yeah, yeah you're, Right you're. 2123 01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,000 Speaker 2: Right what's up we're doing? 2124 01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,519 Speaker 1: There yeah he's doing a little. Cheapot he's walked. In 2125 01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,439 Speaker 1: yeah he's watching so all, yeah kick. Guess so That's No. 2126 01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:08,080 Speaker 1: Bust that's Our survivor. Podcast that's tomorrow at. Eleven but 2127 01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:10,920 Speaker 1: Otherwise Hero No dunk's back On. Friday until, Then clipper. 2128 01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:13,800 Speaker 4: Bros you heard it here. First have a great, time turn. 2129 01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:15,840 Speaker 4: Up love you, guys, awesome. 2130 01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:17,800 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining. US i remember two quick. Things i'm 2131 01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,080 Speaker 2: going to be a fact. Checker we're going old school 2132 01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,599 Speaker 2: as far as the Basketball, jones the, Starters No dunks. 2133 01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:24,760 Speaker 2: GOES i made a, MISTAKE i. Said Kelvin johnson was 2134 01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:28,120 Speaker 2: changing his jersey from three to. Zero it's from zero to. 2135 01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:29,759 Speaker 1: Three you said zero to three? 2136 01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:32,240 Speaker 4: Today, YEAH i Mean Chris paul's got to be wearing three. 2137 01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:35,439 Speaker 2: Right, oh so The navy's gone to. Zero, YEAH i 2138 01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:38,000 Speaker 2: gotta look that. Up but he gave up. BUCkies that's a. 2139 01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,000 Speaker 2: Fact to give up BUCkies to get really healthy this, 2140 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:41,280 Speaker 2: year that's a. 2141 01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:42,840 Speaker 1: FACT i didn't know you could give up a. 2142 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,840 Speaker 2: Buckets, YEAH i mean he stopped. Eating but it's. 2143 01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:48,800 Speaker 4: Awesome goes to a different gas. 2144 01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:52,240 Speaker 2: Stage, YEAH i guess so the loves second. 2145 01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:53,760 Speaker 1: Thing maybe bign. 2146 01:35:53,960 --> 01:36:00,120 Speaker 3: Myself, sorry, sure buckets is, Awesome siko, says go, Though. 2147 01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:05,599 Speaker 2: Okay last thing maybe we'll have On. Friday we got 2148 01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:08,400 Speaker 2: to have an over under for anger moments on our 2149 01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:10,240 Speaker 2: show that will have this. Year you got you got 2150 01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:12,320 Speaker 2: a little feisty to start the, Show, skeets you got little. 2151 01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,439 Speaker 1: Fisty twenty. Years it's twenty, years. 2152 01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,519 Speaker 4: Guys, okay that's What i'm. Saying that's What i'm. 2153 01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:19,080 Speaker 2: Saying it happens a, LOT i mean a. Lot, Yeah 2154 01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:21,200 Speaker 2: that's WHY i want people out there to give us 2155 01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:23,920 Speaker 2: and over under. Number we're we're one. 2156 01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:26,720 Speaker 1: Now temper boy. Moments, yeah, sure so what you want 2157 01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:27,880 Speaker 1: set the over under, Then. 2158 01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:29,519 Speaker 2: That's Why i'm asking the. Face, OH i mean we 2159 01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:33,479 Speaker 2: can do. IT i think it's gonna be fairly. Gentle 2160 01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:35,559 Speaker 2: seven and a half for the entire. 2161 01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,120 Speaker 4: Season, Interesting, yeah less than one a. 2162 01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:42,360 Speaker 2: Month, yeah basically basically one one per, month pump it 2163 01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:44,000 Speaker 2: up hit the over. 2164 01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:47,960 Speaker 3: Stressful time the election coming into remember, right might just 2165 01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,559 Speaker 3: go over that month for. 2166 01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:53,160 Speaker 2: Sure how things, go silver is gonna. Be that's what 2167 01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:53,639 Speaker 2: we're gonna. 2168 01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,840 Speaker 1: Do all, right, guys we'll see you On. Friday here 2169 01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:57,280 Speaker 1: on no, dunks embrace The Eight people 2170 01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:00,080 Speaker 2: And