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Speaker 1: What up, Baby Jay?
Speaker 4: What up?
Speaker 1: DJ scream?
Speaker 3: I'm here today away on welcoming the Queen of Dance Hall,
Speaker 3: the one and only Spice a big Bang.
Speaker 1: So what's what's up? What what's up? Welcome to Big Facts.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank.
Speaker 1: You for full of up.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's gonna be a very unique conversation.
Speaker 3: We know that you're a person that speaks your mind.
Speaker 3: You're gonna say what's on your mind. You're not gonna
Speaker 3: hold back, So please please don't water it down for
Speaker 3: us today. This is big Facts.
Speaker 4: Can you promise us that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So I want to start with that Queen of dance
Speaker 3: Hall thing, like I'm a person that has followed, like
Speaker 3: you know, dance hall music for some time. And this
Speaker 3: is not a self proclaimed thing, like they actually brought
Speaker 3: you on stage in Jamaica.
Speaker 4: And saying gave you like your own proclamation.
Speaker 1: This is the Queen.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was crowing at the sub fest that big culture.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that we have there a big festiveloped like
Speaker 2: a concert. So I was growing at some facet.
Speaker 3: So how does that feel like coming from you know,
Speaker 3: obviously coming up in Jamaica and the humble beginners and
Speaker 3: everything to actually going around the world and doing your
Speaker 3: thing and charting and making music and becoming the celebrity.
Speaker 4: For me, it feels good.
Speaker 2: It feels like, you know, I've planted the seeds because
Speaker 2: I'm celebrating twenty five years.
Speaker 4: So I've been doing this for twenty five years.
Speaker 2: I started in nineteen ninety nine, so mounting it's a
Speaker 2: big thing for me, you know, coming as from humble
Speaker 2: beginnings as I get a girl, coming out to the
Speaker 2: struggles walking around giving out my songs in t CDs,
Speaker 2: to hearing them now being played, to coming to America
Speaker 2: to chase my dreams and making it big here, It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I just feel like I'm proud of myself
Speaker 2: and not giving up right right.
Speaker 5: So when you were so, when you were younger and
Speaker 5: you were growing up, there was a period of time
Speaker 5: that you actually live with your grandparents in London.
Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, I was. How was how was that for you?
Speaker 4: Like leaving home and going over there to like the
Speaker 4: different cultures.
Speaker 2: It was hard because you know, in a Jamaica coming
Speaker 2: from home beginnings, like I said, you're used to a
Speaker 2: different kind of thing than just going to England and
Speaker 2: it's so cold, and you know, in Jamaica we see
Speaker 2: the dog and does a walk around plan the street
Speaker 2: and you're probably showing them look for food and everybody.
Speaker 2: You know, you go to England and the dog is
Speaker 2: in the bed and you're looking like what. It was
Speaker 2: a culture shock for me. So I remember like walking
Speaker 2: just playing as a little girl in the streets barefooted
Speaker 2: with your friends. You couldn't do that in England. Now
Speaker 2: your grandfather is like, you gotta sit up, you gotta
Speaker 2: be more posh, you gotta sick the tea, you got
Speaker 2: to bring the cup to your mouth.
Speaker 4: It was very different from me. As I get a girl,
Speaker 4: I was like, wait, what a different world. So it
Speaker 4: was a culture shock when I moved to England. But
Speaker 4: do you feel like it kind of like.
Speaker 5: Helped you to be able to understand the differences and the.
Speaker 2: Way people live absolutely stuff Like I feel like that
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 4: I feel like it kind of molded me into kind
Speaker 4: of knowing.
Speaker 2: The different the different you know, the different people, the
Speaker 2: different culture, and you know, kind of see a different
Speaker 2: part of the world outside of Jamaica.
Speaker 1: Some things you just couldn't get with, like when you
Speaker 1: got to America, there's like just morally wrong from where
Speaker 1: you're from.
Speaker 4: Like something that I couldn't get with.
Speaker 2: I remember when I move, I love and here, but
Speaker 2: when I moved here, we're not moving. But when I
Speaker 2: started working here because I still live in Jamaica, lots
Speaker 2: of people don't know that there's this beach where I
Speaker 2: don't know if I can say it here, but they
Speaker 2: kept calling me a bitch for a slang.
Speaker 4: But in a Jamaica we don't play that, like.
Speaker 2: You know, if you call somebody a bit like disrespectful,
Speaker 2: ready to fight. So they used to use it for
Speaker 2: a slang here in America like bitch whatever, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: hold up, So I I always wanted to fight and
Speaker 2: people looking at me crazy, like what's wrong with this girl?
Speaker 2: But for me, it was like a disrespect It was
Speaker 2: like an insult, so you had adapt. I had to adapt,
Speaker 2: But now I find myself doing it, like saying it
Speaker 2: every meaning like bitch.
Speaker 4: But when I just came here.
Speaker 2: It was a fight, like no carving a bitch because
Speaker 2: that's like a dog.
Speaker 1: You know what's some other sits. You had adapt to
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: Of things, the language, the language barrier, because I remember
Speaker 2: like that also was a problem when I was on
Speaker 2: Love and Hip Hop. It was like I had to
Speaker 2: speak so that they could understand, because the castmate, if
Speaker 2: we started Jamaica and then can understand, they will look
Speaker 2: at me like girl what.
Speaker 4: So I have to adapt to a language change as well.
Speaker 2: And that was difficult for me because you know me
Speaker 2: and Jamaican, so sometimes you just want to chat with
Speaker 2: your friend and me and now I'm a Jamaican.
Speaker 4: But I had to adapt the language change.
Speaker 1: So how you balanced that the music and feeling that.
Speaker 4: Show the love of hip hop films for like ten
Speaker 4: ten months.
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know that, so by the
Speaker 2: time you get to watch it, I probably already already
Speaker 2: filmed it. For me, it's hard because me as an
Speaker 2: artists way man, all there is that traveling always a tour,
Speaker 2: so I just have to kind of delegate my time
Speaker 2: most of the time.
Speaker 1: You know what percentage of it is real?
Speaker 3: Me?
Speaker 2: And I said more Scitan Huh, that's what I would
Speaker 2: say when you were said cutting up. I'm like, wait,
Speaker 2: trying to figure out. Yeah, most of it, you know,
Speaker 2: it's real. It's our real life story. Well for me,
Speaker 2: I can speak for myself. I don't know about the
Speaker 2: other girls. If they make their stories up, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but all of my shit is always real.
Speaker 5: And then another thing that I wanted to ask you
Speaker 5: to since we're talking about the Jamaican culture and the
Speaker 5: dance hall and all of that, I know that you
Speaker 5: and Vibes are extremely close and you guys have created
Speaker 5: some masterpieces together, absolutely, and you.
Speaker 4: Guys have a lot of love for each other.
Speaker 5: So how does it feel great to have the World
Speaker 5: Boss back on the term?
Speaker 4: I'm excited. I'm excited. I mean I've been chanting.
Speaker 2: Free World Boys for the past thirteen years when he
Speaker 2: was incacerated, So I mean, I remember the day when
Speaker 2: him come. I lost my advice because I was just
Speaker 2: running and screaming in the airport because I landed to
Speaker 2: the news.
Speaker 4: But I mean, I feel good. I'm happy to see
Speaker 4: him out with his kids.
Speaker 2: I'm happy to see him smiling and in a place
Speaker 2: where look at and smile and just feel that.
Speaker 4: Jove and say, yeah, the Master, Yeah, I feel good.
Speaker 4: I feel good. I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, the day before it starts, okay, absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 2: thirty first Freedom Streets, I feel like the whole world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's going to be there.
Speaker 2: I should come there a witness, Yes, concert.
Speaker 3: Less up less, the vast cartel. So I know you're
Speaker 3: trying to talk about this, but Big Facts is a
Speaker 3: great place to talk about it.
Speaker 1: One more time.
Speaker 3: I want to understand when you were saying that when
Speaker 3: when someone masturbates, when someone masturbates, they are having six
Speaker 3: with us a spirit demon, and that spirit demon can
Speaker 3: actually affect your actual relationship.
Speaker 1: Is that the right quote? And if it's not, you
Speaker 1: can help it.
Speaker 4: When you're talking about a succubus. Yes see, but you
Speaker 4: know you looks like I'm the only one that knew
Speaker 4: that or talk about that.
Speaker 1: Crazy. We just want to get to the bottom, honde.
Speaker 2: So I mean, well, according to what I read, okay,
Speaker 2: and I've heard a pastor say it before, I had
Speaker 2: posted it on my page when the pastor did it,
Speaker 2: because I'm like, y'all are making it look like I'm crazy,
Speaker 2: because yes, I did talk about this before, and everybody
Speaker 2: was telling a girl, what, so when you masturbate, there's
Speaker 2: actually a spirit that you call onto yourself.
Speaker 4: That is called incubus and zucabus.
Speaker 2: There's a male sex it's like an energy course. Yes,
Speaker 2: there's a male sex demon a female one. So when
Speaker 2: you masturbate, you're actually, you know, calling on spirits onto yourself.
Speaker 2: So you're basically having sex with spirits. It's called in
Speaker 2: and how you call by masturbating, you started come out
Speaker 2: by pleasing yourself.
Speaker 1: So you do a lot of hat.
Speaker 4: Why would you need to do that though?
Speaker 6: I do it in front of my woman, You said, Well,
Speaker 6: I said, I do it in front of my woman too.
Speaker 4: Really, why not.
Speaker 1: Live that ship? What? What?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: What the spirit's supposed to do to you when you
Speaker 1: call it? She said, you can.
Speaker 3: I wanted just the part where they were like, the
Speaker 3: spirit can fall in love with you and interfere.
Speaker 2: With your cor Okay, So yeah, let me let me
Speaker 2: say something about that.
Speaker 4: I've read. No, I've read I'm not confirming nor.
Speaker 5: Denying, but I've read in magazines where like there have
Speaker 5: been people allegedly that have pleasured themselves and you know,
Speaker 5: had these spirit energy forces.
Speaker 2: Husband, Yeah, fall in love with them to the point
Speaker 2: where when I give mine comes along, yeah, spirit husband
Speaker 2: fights them off and damaged they or.
Speaker 5: Like like, let's just say, let's just say I'm a
Speaker 5: I'm a I'm a female and masturbating myself and I've
Speaker 5: just been like fucking niggas I can please myself.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Let's say I get married and have a husband.
Speaker 5: And get pregnant that there have been reported stories allegedly
Speaker 5: that those spirits and energies have interfered with the pregnancy
Speaker 5: and terminated the pregnancies early.
Speaker 4: Like type ship and damaged your relationship too. It was, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like because.
Speaker 5: When have published cases and published reports of those things
Speaker 5: allegedly happening.
Speaker 6: So yeah, saying I got an energy, female energy that's
Speaker 6: in the way.
Speaker 5: She's got allegedly so used to pleasing you and so
Speaker 5: personal with you.
Speaker 1: Then you got, huh, how often you gotta masturbate for
Speaker 1: the again?
Speaker 2: Once you do it one time, that's you haven't the
Speaker 2: right I don't know that, but you say you do
Speaker 2: it with your partner though, so I guess there's a
Speaker 2: different alone. If you're doing alone, then you're really calling.
Speaker 1: Everybody though, right, not me your life.
Speaker 2: I don't masturbate because of that, but you have. I've
Speaker 2: masturbated before.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's on you.
Speaker 2: But that's why I say acknowledge though, So once I know,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop because I know that, oh, masturbating is
Speaker 2: me having sex with a deep Of course, I'm gonna stop.
Speaker 2: That's why I say you got to read upon it,
Speaker 2: because if you read upon it, now you find some
Speaker 2: truth in it, maybe you're gonna stop it you feel it, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's deep.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 5: No like when you're doing it to yourself and you
Speaker 5: have like massive fucking life shattering orgasms.
Speaker 4: Have you ever heard let me see, that's all gonna say.
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard like women say it's more intense
Speaker 2: when they bleed themselves.
Speaker 4: That's blacks off energy that they're early. You know a
Speaker 4: lot of people people.
Speaker 2: With the machine though, right, rolls and all that, But
Speaker 2: the rose is bringing on them sex demon.
Speaker 4: If you're alone, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: That ship, that ship breaking the ship too. The rolls
Speaker 1: and break your ship ship.
Speaker 2: But that you know about the roads, about the road
Speaker 2: should have burned a woman out, you said the woman.
Speaker 6: If a woman using road, it'll burn her click out.
Speaker 6: It can you so many.
Speaker 1: Girls that ship too much?
Speaker 3: Speak up now, shot, don't get shot, desensitized, break the
Speaker 3: nervenumb the nerve.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 4: That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: What's the difference between the men from Jamaica and the
Speaker 1: men over here?
Speaker 4: The man from Jamaica and the man over here? Oh?
Speaker 2: Somebody just asking that question on the carpet, and I
Speaker 2: just said, I can't. I don't know how to answer
Speaker 2: that for me.
Speaker 4: See, I gotta be careful.
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to water down today down today.
Speaker 2: I think they're more what would I say, more street?
Speaker 2: I would feel like my Jamaica men are more street
Speaker 2: than over here.
Speaker 4: You think they're more aggressive?
Speaker 2: If that's also a part of like being more street
Speaker 2: in terms of more militis or how would we say more?
Speaker 1: Are you trying to say? No? Do you think that
Speaker 1: American men are softer? Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay, don't water down to day on big Fast. Please
Speaker 3: don't do that.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 7: Power he's down to camera cousting, like, guys, what you doing?
Speaker 4: What he just said?
Speaker 1: That the truth? All we want to put on lotion
Speaker 1: and ship.
Speaker 2: I'm not into that feminine like for me, I mean,
Speaker 2: you want your niggas crusty, more manly and more you know,
Speaker 2: street like you know, it's like okay me and go
Speaker 2: tell you are goal. You're looking at the mirror more
Speaker 2: than me and I do all of that unnecessary you
Speaker 2: know soft.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're telling the truth though.
Speaker 4: I think they're also more straightforward to and more.
Speaker 1: I think all Caribbean women women And.
Speaker 4: He's not feeling it.
Speaker 2: He's like, what she talking about?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 6: Nah, I get what she's saying. But yeah, I got it.
Speaker 6: She's a woman, so she knows you get over here.
Speaker 6: These niggas approach different. They approach different.
Speaker 1: They're approaching like kind of scared, timid like most most Well,
Speaker 1: she's speaking of the niggas straight.
Speaker 2: Like like yeah, and I feel like even our jama
Speaker 2: them not for top fool, I understand them. And we
Speaker 2: like that the Americans go talk and explain themselves and
Speaker 2: try to over you know Jamaya cont man with just.
Speaker 4: Start up and look you get where safe?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like yeah, like.
Speaker 4: Because my life even with my personal experience like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know what that's it?
Speaker 4: Like my personal.
Speaker 5: Experience like with Jamaican men and Haitian man like it is.
Speaker 5: It's like two different worlds.
Speaker 4: It is it is.
Speaker 5: It's they make you understand that there are rules that
Speaker 5: need to be followed as opposed to yeah, like no
Speaker 5: offense to my American men because it's a lot of
Speaker 5: American men to put their foot down too. But with them,
Speaker 5: that's like them all the way across the board with
Speaker 5: no type of understanding about nothing.
Speaker 1: That thing contradiction. The contradiction from and then we ain't
Speaker 1: gonna turn into no relationship. The contradiction from American.
Speaker 6: Black women and with men is if you act like
Speaker 6: what y'all saying, y'all want being your controller.
Speaker 1: But if you, if you become, if you become, you
Speaker 1: heard what I said and I ain't through talking.
Speaker 6: About and you sassy hold on if you, if you,
Speaker 6: if you come, if you act like what she.
Speaker 1: Just said, like Brady, is what it is your controlling.
Speaker 6: But if you, if you, if you want them nigga
Speaker 6: that go back and forth, try to explain yourself, then
Speaker 6: you're sassine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not necessarily.
Speaker 6: How you're going back and forth, if you're going back
Speaker 6: and forth with your bitch, your bitch, if you, if you,
Speaker 6: if you if you just let it be what it
Speaker 6: is you you attached from your emotion.
Speaker 5: I disagree because it depends on how you're going back
Speaker 5: and forth.
Speaker 4: If you're going back, yes, you're a bitch. Yes, understand.
Speaker 6: When you're going back and forth, you're gonna eventually see
Speaker 6: how just got out right?
Speaker 1: You see.
Speaker 6: I'm saying, when you're going back and forth trying to
Speaker 6: make your part, you're gonna eventually speed it up. So
Speaker 6: niggas like to be like you got it, babe, they're
Speaker 6: that's a problem.
Speaker 2: No, what I'm saying is if you're if you were
Speaker 2: you're going back and forth to come to a mutual
Speaker 2: understanding and having a discussionssion you're saying, But.
Speaker 4: Let me saying what I feel.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a type of going back and
Speaker 2: forth that a man should have. Like for me, if
Speaker 2: I'm going back and forth with a man or whatever,
Speaker 2: and he's giving me like a too much of a
Speaker 2: sassic conversation, like you're trying to downplay me or disrespect
Speaker 2: me or whatever taught me taught me, or like you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, I'm going to give you that
Speaker 2: type of attitude to shut you down, to remind you
Speaker 2: that I'm the woman. What you're doing, I should be
Speaker 2: doing it. But if you give me like if you
Speaker 2: give me like you know, grace, we're not going to
Speaker 2: do that. I'm not on that right now. When you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying and give me a little two
Speaker 2: little words and then you stop talking, I get it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna more respect you. But if you're going back
Speaker 2: and forth, going back and forth, tit for tack, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give you the tit for tat. I remind you
Speaker 2: that I got to do what.
Speaker 1: We're saying the same thing. But so you put yourself
Speaker 1: in a bitch position. To me, it's not it's deliverance.
Speaker 6: To me, there's no way to deliver something when you're
Speaker 6: in your feelings, in your feelings, but.
Speaker 4: You can be in your feeling but deliver it. Like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I say a cover are speaking on a conversation
Speaker 6: or an argument, I'm speaking on argument either one.
Speaker 2: Even if you're having an argument.
Speaker 1: Whether you're speaking on a conversation or an argument, I'm
Speaker 1: speaking on argument.
Speaker 4: We just said it back and forth.
Speaker 2: We didn't specify an argument a conversation.
Speaker 6: No, But most of the time when you're having a
Speaker 6: heated conversation. That's basically an art argument. Yeah for sure, but.
Speaker 2: You still can deliver yourself in a respectful way so
Speaker 2: your woman remembers that you're the man, and even in
Speaker 2: the heats of the argument, she'll get it that this
Speaker 2: is my man.
Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna do that with him.
Speaker 1: Some women, but.
Speaker 2: Man, man, they like to give you that energy, so
Speaker 2: you try to give back that energy naturally because you
Speaker 2: are the girl.
Speaker 1: They say anything else about big.
Speaker 6: I'm just speaking to me what I've seen in witness.
Speaker 6: I've seen dudes that be like I've heard women tell
Speaker 6: me like he is like you don't care because he
Speaker 6: don't want to argue. Right, you can't restrict he like
Speaker 6: you don't care because he don't want to argue when
Speaker 6: he argue. I don't heard women say he always got something, but.
Speaker 1: See that.
Speaker 2: It is a contradiction. But that also goes into comfort compassibility.
Speaker 2: You gotta know your partner because for me, I will
Speaker 2: tell you to stop. That don't mean I want you
Speaker 2: to stop. See, you gotta understand there's a language within women.
Speaker 2: Just like if we having sex and I'm like stop,
Speaker 2: I don't mean I want to go harder. That's true,
Speaker 2: you can like, no, you gotta understand you're a woman.
Speaker 4: So it's like.
Speaker 1: You no, no, keep on no.
Speaker 4: You gotta understand her. It's a farm.
Speaker 2: Of just so even if there's an argument, you gotta
Speaker 2: know the type of girl you're with. Does she like
Speaker 2: when you don't talk or does she like when you,
Speaker 2: you know, communicate that.
Speaker 4: I have a problem with this.
Speaker 1: I have a real problem with people that's not their
Speaker 1: self me to what I do. But it's so many
Speaker 1: women that's not their self right. They would women would
Speaker 1: act like they want you to be one way, right
Speaker 1: as soon as you turn that way. It's just something
Speaker 1: I lost from him.
Speaker 6: Yes, like if I did everything my wife wanted me
Speaker 6: to do, she would look at me as a whole
Speaker 6: ass nigga.
Speaker 1: Yes, straight straight up, because I know you a whole gangster.
Speaker 6: So if I turned into the nigga you tell me
Speaker 6: that I need to be, I'm not gonna be even
Speaker 6: appealing to you.
Speaker 1: I know this.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. That's facts the guy that I go
Speaker 2: crazy for. That's the type of relationship we have, Like
Speaker 2: tell him what to do. I can't tell him what
Speaker 2: to do, but I like that.
Speaker 1: But she tried, but we.
Speaker 4: Will try try.
Speaker 1: We will try if you.
Speaker 2: But if you fall into that everything, I do think
Speaker 2: we're gonna have you like a punk.
Speaker 4: Like that too.
Speaker 5: But I also like that same nigga that won't allow
Speaker 5: me to tell him what to do well every now
Speaker 5: and then make an adjustment to do some ship that
Speaker 5: I like to do because he's heard what I've said.
Speaker 1: Now what you like to do, I'm here to.
Speaker 2: Do just like being with that gangsters like you tweak
Speaker 2: a little bit, you gotta week, you gotta go week.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Yourself.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, tweak a little bit, like fucking, fucking,
Speaker 5: fucking I don't know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Now I know what you're saying, little bit, because you
Speaker 2: can be with a hood figure like against the.
Speaker 4: Guy he's very against a very mad man masculine.
Speaker 2: But if I like when before I go in the car,
Speaker 2: you open my door, then you gotta be that gentleman
Speaker 2: now and.
Speaker 4: Open my door. And if I say to you, you know,
Speaker 4: I like roses.
Speaker 2: You probably don't want to go to the road shop
Speaker 2: every minute to pick up the road I like that,
Speaker 2: So now you got to.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do all that.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be here I'm talking about when it comes
Speaker 6: down to me and my character traits. You know, if
Speaker 6: like if a woman just saying your mama tell you
Speaker 6: just with some some hypothetically this is not for me,
Speaker 6: Like I don't like you play.
Speaker 1: Golf too much.
Speaker 4: I'm change that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play more. No that don't do nothing too
Speaker 1: much that I want to do, because I'm still gonna
Speaker 1: make time.
Speaker 4: No, no, you gotta make time.
Speaker 2: Because if she's saying no, but if she's telling you
Speaker 2: you do it too much, that means she wants more
Speaker 2: at that time.
Speaker 4: And a relationship is too personal.
Speaker 2: You can't let me finish because you can't be in
Speaker 2: a relationship. But like a single man, they might as
Speaker 2: well you're gonna be with yourself because you can't be
Speaker 2: in a relationship with me. And I'm coming to you
Speaker 2: and telling you, you know, I'm uncomfortable with this, or I
Speaker 2: want you to change, or can we have more time?
Speaker 4: And you're like, no, you're gonna do more golf.
Speaker 1: No what I'm saying, you're just telling me this. Don't
Speaker 1: this don't.
Speaker 6: Affect your time. You just saying I do something for
Speaker 6: me too much. I play golf when you're at work.
Speaker 3: He's saying, he's saying, he's saying from you know, he's
Speaker 3: saying from a control control.
Speaker 5: And if she's saying, if she's saying that you play
Speaker 5: golf too much or whatever, would you ever entertain.
Speaker 4: The idea of inviting her to come along one day? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I learn.
Speaker 6: I'm saying, I will, I will. You're gonna be a
Speaker 6: part of anything I do. What I'm saying is I
Speaker 6: just use that as a as a point. I'm saying,
Speaker 6: like just a woman and say anything that that that's
Speaker 6: within you. You smoke too many cigarettes and I don't
Speaker 6: smoke cigarettes. How the fuck you're gonna tell me what
Speaker 6: I do to me.
Speaker 1: Is too much?
Speaker 2: Because I feel he gave me a thing like a problem,
Speaker 2: one of the traits of a problem that I have
Speaker 2: with most men, because I like a matra man. Men
Speaker 2: don't like women telling them to change their characteristic because
Speaker 2: men are egotistical. But they feel like if we say
Speaker 2: something to change anything or to make them themselves better,
Speaker 2: we're trying to control them or ruling them. We can
Speaker 2: love you and say baby or smoking too much.
Speaker 4: We can love you.
Speaker 6: If you just send me, if you just keep sending
Speaker 6: on Instagram, how smoking causes cancer.
Speaker 1: Let me make up my mind what I want to do.
Speaker 1: You can't make up.
Speaker 4: We're a partner. We're a partner.
Speaker 1: You can't make my mind up.
Speaker 4: But we are a partner.
Speaker 2: So if we go to buy a house and you
Speaker 2: can't make up your mind wish house, I can't tell
Speaker 2: you which house I want you to ain't.
Speaker 6: That's that's those are those are those are decisions for
Speaker 6: a couple.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about something with me off person. It's like
Speaker 3: if your man. If your man say he don't, I
Speaker 3: don't want you to wear your hair that way? Talk
Speaker 3: about like you do you for men?
Speaker 4: Who I Okay, So I have two persona.
Speaker 2: I wear blue hair when I'm spiced, but when I'm
Speaker 2: my normal self at home, I wear black hair.
Speaker 1: If my massage don't want you wear blue period?
Speaker 2: If I might say that, then as Grace Hamilton, I
Speaker 2: can wear different colors.
Speaker 4: I'm going to compromise.
Speaker 1: Want you well, no colors.
Speaker 6: I want you to cut your color all head. That's
Speaker 6: what I want to wear my ball hat cut about.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 6: Like women, they set their boundaries, but you don't supposed
Speaker 6: to never have boundaries.
Speaker 1: You don't supposed to have everything. You should be negotiable.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's a couple of things. That's where
Speaker 4: you got to understand your part.
Speaker 1: No, I woke up the day and felt like a fact,
Speaker 1: I don't want you doing a dance. She don't want you.
Speaker 2: Sure, Now you're having a different conversation. Now you're telling
Speaker 2: me to give up my dreams and my career for
Speaker 2: whatever reason. See that happened to me, you know that
Speaker 2: happened relationship.
Speaker 1: A dream to smoke. I don't think being in the
Speaker 1: clubs in all this stuff trying, I don't think it's safe.
Speaker 2: No, in my previous relationship, In my previous relationship, point
Speaker 2: I was you know, everybody know I was talking to.
Speaker 2: He had a problem with how I dance on stage
Speaker 2: as the Queen of Dan Song. So he used to say.
Speaker 2: He used to say, I need to start whining on
Speaker 2: niggas or stop doing certain things. And I had a
Speaker 2: problem with that because at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: that's my career, that's my job. Now you're interfering with
Speaker 2: me as an artist and my life, my livelihood. You know,
Speaker 2: I couldn't give up my dreams that I've been fighting
Speaker 2: for for twenty five years for a man. A man
Speaker 2: will walk anytime you can break up with a man.
Speaker 2: What I built for myself as my brand, that will
Speaker 2: never leave me. That's who I am. So I had
Speaker 2: a problem with that.
Speaker 5: That's just like a nigga, mean the bitch that works
Speaker 5: in the strip club and fucking trying to tell her
Speaker 5: that he doesn't want her to strip anymore, but not
Speaker 5: offering her an alternative about to stop.
Speaker 6: How gonna all this ship that you want a nigga
Speaker 6: to switch up with no alternative?
Speaker 1: Please understand what I'm saying. We get that, and a nigga.
Speaker 6: Gonna don't gonna say it one time and adjust either.
Speaker 6: If not, nigga say it one time like what they
Speaker 6: I don't really like when you do that. If I
Speaker 6: see that what she continued to do, you might not
Speaker 6: never hear me say that none other. But again, if
Speaker 6: I stay or it's a deal breaker. A woman gonna
Speaker 6: keep nagging you about some ship that she just want
Speaker 6: to see if you're gonna change, but she's been it
Speaker 6: probably don't even want you to change it.
Speaker 1: I just want to see if you're if you'll go
Speaker 1: for it. That's true now, but you do.
Speaker 2: Have a point, though you do, we do do that.
Speaker 2: We try, y'all, but that's her job.
Speaker 1: And more so than our job. Is I can't this
Speaker 1: thing with one's in the trites ain't going for nothing
Speaker 1: like a motherfucker. You tell me some ship, that's absolutely right.
Speaker 1: I still be like, I don't hear that ship and
Speaker 1: applied though, I ain't gonna tell you I applied it.
Speaker 1: But over use your ship.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't let you know you just changed my man.
Speaker 6: Want a motherfucker know they could change your mind? Bro,
Speaker 6: I can make you do anything.
Speaker 3: Damn, why why why? And we won't turn into a relationship.
Speaker 3: Why does it have to be yeah, for sure? Why
Speaker 3: does it have to be that complicated? It just seems
Speaker 3: real complicated. Like women are saying.
Speaker 1: They've received a child, well woman. When a woman receive
Speaker 1: a man in a relationship, they feel like they're taking
Speaker 1: on a motherly role.
Speaker 2: But when a man received a woman, he feels like
Speaker 2: he took on like a maid or something or his mother.
Speaker 1: Get what, women expect me to sacrifice their happiness for
Speaker 1: their family. They will sacrifice their family for their happiness.
Speaker 1: Put that on the shirt. Just women feel like a
Speaker 1: man is supposed to sacrifice his happiness for his family
Speaker 1: the whole.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: A woman can't wait to sacrifice her family for her happiness.
Speaker 1: You know, need to.
Speaker 6: Tellt on your ass to be happy because she's unhappy.
Speaker 6: A nigga, stay and be unhappy for you to be happy.
Speaker 4: Woman in a relationship unhappy to police man. Although you're saying.
Speaker 1: That women stay in the relationship unhappy, but.
Speaker 2: Into you started to get into because there's a lot
Speaker 2: of women that I know right now that is in
Speaker 2: a relationship and they're not happy, but it is doing
Speaker 2: it for the ground and they stay in that ship
Speaker 2: even to even to please them, like make another girl
Speaker 2: feel like, oh yeah, I got the man and you're
Speaker 2: not getting it, and she's not happy with that man.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of women. A woman ever happened
Speaker 1: with a man? Is she content? Is she's she's in
Speaker 1: secure place?
Speaker 2: No listen, but she's staying I happy relationship regardless, just
Speaker 2: for the money, just for fame, just for anything.
Speaker 1: Most women, once women, they off of off of potential
Speaker 1: money and fame. That's what they coming in for. A
Speaker 1: man coming in this shit.
Speaker 6: Most women, man, when they meet you, you're gonna have
Speaker 6: to have something motion man a going to get no
Speaker 6: bomb ass nigga. How these nigga going to get these
Speaker 6: bomb ass holes and love them?
Speaker 4: So how is this broadcast? Nigga still fucking?
Speaker 1: They fucking but the ain't no bitch fucking with them.
Speaker 1: You ain't on my face.
Speaker 6: What you're not on, You're not might do a nigga,
Speaker 6: go get a Brokenn Beach and make her this is
Speaker 6: my baby, change.
Speaker 4: Your turn off a lot.
Speaker 6: I see a lot a woman ain't finna turn the
Speaker 6: Yeah that nigga, you know, broke nigga gonna fuck your back.
Speaker 1: It's all I got, baby, I gotta, I gotta you
Speaker 1: what I got.
Speaker 6: If nigga finished standing that shit two hours, ain't finish
Speaker 6: with the man.
Speaker 5: But listen all got Going back to your quote where
Speaker 5: you said that a man will sacrifice his happiness for
Speaker 5: his family, but a woman will sacrifice her family for happiness.
Speaker 5: I don't understand that because my thing is you're basically.
Speaker 4: You just said that. It was like it's easier for
Speaker 4: a woman to tear out.
Speaker 2: But I disagree because at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: the woman is the one who holds the family together.
Speaker 2: The woman is the one who takes care of the kids,
Speaker 2: who runs the household, who guts.
Speaker 4: Cleans, does everything. She can't just up and leave from
Speaker 4: that shit.
Speaker 2: A nigga can go where out the fuck and start
Speaker 2: a new family start.
Speaker 1: And that's not the family is not the kids. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying is the family consists of the kids. Like
Speaker 1: just say, for this.
Speaker 6: Instance, right, this happened more than often. You can see
Speaker 6: a couple, a happily married couple, they've been together twenty
Speaker 6: fifteen years. Yeah, she gets unhere, happy or whatever. She
Speaker 6: meet a guy that's willing to take her long and
Speaker 6: take her the kids. She will break that family up
Speaker 6: right then and there because she's unhappy.
Speaker 2: But statistics shows that it's quicker for a man to
Speaker 2: walk away from his family because it's easier for him.
Speaker 2: He don't have the baggage off the kids and the whole.
Speaker 2: He can push this the kids family easier.
Speaker 1: But it's really some men sacrifice that though y'all don't
Speaker 1: know an I don't agree, Okay, we gotta agree to
Speaker 1: disagree because it ain't no man happy. What do you mean,
Speaker 1: I ain't happen?
Speaker 4: Bro Listen to this, he said, ain't no man happy.
Speaker 6: I could be happy with you, but you're not because
Speaker 6: you're not waking up doing what you want to do.
Speaker 1: It's in our nation to want to be do something
Speaker 1: different every day.
Speaker 6: Ain't even speaking on women, just something different outside of
Speaker 6: compromising for a relationship.
Speaker 2: So you're saying all men every day they wake up
Speaker 2: just to want to do something different.
Speaker 4: Yes, so that's why y'all cheat.
Speaker 6: Yes too, But I ain't speaking on that. I'm just saying, like, bro,
Speaker 6: it has to be you really got a po a
Speaker 6: probation officer, demny, you just ain't piercing you own curfew.
Speaker 4: So you don't think women feel time way?
Speaker 1: How?
Speaker 5: But I don't know you that's why you, but most
Speaker 5: niggas do. But hold on, I don't think most niggas
Speaker 5: are willing. Most niggas are willing to go the extra
Speaker 5: distance to nut the fuck up if they feel like
Speaker 5: anything is off while they're out doing whatever the fuck
Speaker 5: they do.
Speaker 2: For me, my take is for him to say, oh,
Speaker 2: you're on curfew. That's why I always tell people, you
Speaker 2: can't change a man. A man gotta want to change,
Speaker 2: and you can't make a man want you. A man
Speaker 2: gotta really want you, so that respect comes from you,
Speaker 2: not really our curfew. But if you respect your household
Speaker 2: and your woman enough, you know, oh you can't see,
Speaker 2: oh I got.
Speaker 4: To go home because you know, why.
Speaker 2: Would you want to be out at three four am?
Speaker 2: Knowing that your woman is at home leaves by herself.
Speaker 2: That's when she's gonna want to get a next man
Speaker 2: to make her happy.
Speaker 6: Yea, what you're saying, you're saying the same every time
Speaker 6: I say so, you're saying the same thing I'm saying
Speaker 6: in a different way, and you just don't even know it.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna come in your house and respect you.
Speaker 4: You don't want to go home so you don't feel
Speaker 4: like you're on a nurse.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I may not want to come home at me.
Speaker 2: You don't want the woman and the relationship man to
Speaker 2: always want to come home.
Speaker 1: You can't say that. I may want to go to
Speaker 1: Jamaica and chi hid for three days with my parliament a.
Speaker 4: Relationship, though, would you want to leave if a woman.
Speaker 6: Where I'm okay, people like okay, if you was in
Speaker 6: a relationship, if you.
Speaker 1: Don't, if you if you if you was in a.
Speaker 6: Relationship, right, uh huh, your job calls for you to
Speaker 6: sleep out sometimes.
Speaker 2: But that's different, is different yet because I'm not purposely
Speaker 2: just going to somewhere for pleasure.
Speaker 4: Oh babe, I'll be back in three days. No, I'm
Speaker 4: going to work. It's a difference.
Speaker 1: So if you work working on my mental as you
Speaker 1: talking about you at telling man, this is weird to me. Bro, No,
Speaker 1: I'm working on.
Speaker 2: My my I tried to work on that same piece
Speaker 2: and take that same.
Speaker 4: No, that's gonna be a problem, you know what.
Speaker 1: Hurry up and go. How many girls and there are? Man, girl,
Speaker 1: I'm married. I'll be on my way thirty years, thirty years.
Speaker 4: He's a different breed. We just we can't even use
Speaker 4: him as an example.
Speaker 3: What he's saying, what he's saying, what he's said, what
Speaker 3: he's saying, be spot on, is just really the world,
Speaker 3: the world even so real ship. He's what he's saying,
Speaker 3: and he's saying it from a place of actually shot
Speaker 3: the perspectives. Check out bank perspectives. Well, it's a place
Speaker 3: of healing that and we can get to these conversations.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with me and my wife. We
Speaker 3: had to have a conversation about we make each other happy.
Speaker 3: We had to have a real conversation about each other's happiness.
Speaker 4: I'm like that, that's cool.
Speaker 3: I love to work. I love music like I love
Speaker 3: this ship before I loved you. I love music to
Speaker 3: the point of emotion like I love this ship. So
Speaker 3: she was like, sometimes you just need to go out
Speaker 3: and do music. I don't care about that ship, you know.
Speaker 3: For her, She's like, sometimes I need to go out
Speaker 3: and be by some water. I have to for my
Speaker 3: mental health. Me I'm cool on it. I don't need
Speaker 3: how to swim. So I'll be like, all right, go
Speaker 3: with your mama, go be by some water for your happiness.
Speaker 3: I think that people is not supporting, but thank you.
Speaker 4: That's all that. What you're saying is that.
Speaker 5: But what I'm saying to you is if Jessica came
Speaker 5: to you today and said, hey man, tomorrow, I'm going
Speaker 5: to Jamaica for three years old, that I can fucking
Speaker 5: clear my mind with my homegirls or whoever the funk
Speaker 5: else that I'm going with.
Speaker 4: You are not going for that. You're not Finna tell
Speaker 4: me that you are.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. You're not. Guess what if you're not?
Speaker 3: If it if it comes down to it, When I
Speaker 3: told her when I should tell her I'm finna go
Speaker 3: on tour for four five, six months and I might
Speaker 3: not be able to call every three minutes and pick up.
Speaker 3: It is work, but it's a lot of ship that
Speaker 3: can go on with that tour. She trusted me and
Speaker 3: hell it then didn't give me no smoke.
Speaker 4: That's what I got to respect that, bro that's two
Speaker 4: different things.
Speaker 1: Everything different, man, It's like man, y'all remix everything, man, everything.
Speaker 1: They're gonna find a way that.
Speaker 6: Just I'm speaking on women, broat, don't get in your finish, queen.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about women. That's what all women do. They're
Speaker 6: gonna find a way that that's different. Everything she did
Speaker 6: she did, just say she did this same that. That's
Speaker 6: part of their job. That's women. That's the part of
Speaker 6: the what women. Women are going to.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just be honest about it. Women complicate ship
Speaker 3: and we complicate ship too. Sure, for sure, that's part
Speaker 3: of it, part of it. That's part of like I'll
Speaker 3: be like I tell my own wife, that was very complicated.
Speaker 3: You could have just said this, but they can't do
Speaker 3: it that way. No, I wanted to show and talk
Speaker 3: about the ifs and the age and the beas and
Speaker 3: the season, the dis to get to the point of
Speaker 3: you could have just said this and I would have
Speaker 3: said yes or no. That's what That's the nature of
Speaker 3: a lot of women. And we complicated ship too, just
Speaker 3: keeping it real. It's fucking complicated. Why does it have
Speaker 3: to be this complicated? That's the real question. This ship
Speaker 3: is just complicated.
Speaker 6: I just don't understand, Like, like, like you just said,
Speaker 6: I'll be talking to women and I just all women
Speaker 6: think the same. No, not at their core, at their core.
Speaker 1: Not some of them.
Speaker 6: The women that donet gave up on a nigga, like,
Speaker 6: fuck these niggas and fuck little all the hopeless romantic
Speaker 6: women think the same, all the whole thing the same.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, they all think the same.
Speaker 4: I don't agree with you, So I don't know why
Speaker 4: you're looking at me.
Speaker 1: They do know they do. They portray they think the same.
Speaker 6: Because you could be my homegirl, right, you could tell
Speaker 6: me every day how to be.
Speaker 1: Don't You shouldn't do it like that.
Speaker 6: You shouldn't do it like that and agree with me
Speaker 6: on certain ship as soon as you get a relationship.
Speaker 6: You wouldn't do that with your dude, and you know
Speaker 6: that this is what he's supposed to be doing because
Speaker 6: it's in his nature. You understand my nature of being
Speaker 6: my home boy, but you wanta understand your due nature
Speaker 6: in a relationship.
Speaker 4: That happens sometimes all the time.
Speaker 1: So, and that's another thing they do. They can't totally
Speaker 1: agree with you either. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know what happens when when there's an agreement or
Speaker 3: disagree Now it's final. A woman on life final, They
Speaker 3: want I don't want to talk about this ship no more.
Speaker 3: After the day, we're gonna stop talking about this ship.
Speaker 3: A woman wants to know we might have to revisit.
Speaker 2: It because they're not comfortable to move on. Men like
Speaker 2: to do stuff and just jump over it and move on.
Speaker 2: We like to get past it, work it out, talk
Speaker 2: about it. Why did it offect me, This is why
Speaker 2: you offended me, and then when we feel comfortable, then
Speaker 2: we move on. Y'all want to just push it under
Speaker 2: the rug and move on.
Speaker 4: But I've learned that in a lot of cases, men
Speaker 4: like to.
Speaker 5: Finalize it and not talk about it because it's over.
Speaker 4: They're avoiding natural it is not because you feel like
Speaker 4: it's okay, a lot of a lot.
Speaker 2: Of times in a relationship. Not because you feel like
Speaker 2: it's okay. That means we've moved on past it.
Speaker 1: We still hurt you feel.
Speaker 6: However you feel. No, I say, I'm gonna make you
Speaker 6: feel worse by lying or whatever. You what is he
Speaker 6: gonna get by keep on dragging out? You keep ragging out,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna start calling you. I'm gonna start calling out
Speaker 6: your name. Get upset because I'm already wrong.
Speaker 1: What you're saying. Apologize by the fun were talking about
Speaker 1: this ship for six weeks?
Speaker 2: Because for six weeks, what are you gonna What answer
Speaker 2: are you gonna get? Because for six weeks we're still hurting?
Speaker 1: Okay, so what am I go see a counselor so
Speaker 1: let me ask you, no, No, let.
Speaker 4: Met a relationship together.
Speaker 1: For a reason. So let me no see what you're
Speaker 1: trying to do. You're trying to create chaos.
Speaker 4: Let me let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: No, let me ask you a question the topic whatever.
Speaker 5: The topic is that you guys are trying to cut
Speaker 5: off or not speak on again. Okay, let's say we
Speaker 5: we do what you say and we cut out on
Speaker 5: it again, and then you saying, Okay, you understood where
Speaker 5: I'm heard at. You understood this this blah blah blah,
Speaker 5: bah blah whatever. But then the ship comes back up
Speaker 5: again and you do the same ship and how do
Speaker 5: you propose we handle it?
Speaker 1: Then then what you're supposed to do is make a decision.
Speaker 1: This is what type of nigga dise is? Can I
Speaker 1: deal with him? I can't. I can't change nobody. That's
Speaker 1: what that that's comes.
Speaker 4: I feel like you're being two faced.
Speaker 6: I'm a gemini, but I'm not being to.
Speaker 2: Because you just told me that you were married for
Speaker 2: thirty years. But now you're not giving off for energy
Speaker 2: to me like you know my sense I got you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something real it's giving me. Oh
Speaker 2: this is wow, this is our How do you maintain your.
Speaker 4: Thirty year relationship? That don't sound like like it's not.
Speaker 1: No, that ain't two face, That ain't two faith. I
Speaker 1: maintained it.
Speaker 6: But it's problems. Niggas will sacrifice their happenings through their problems.
Speaker 6: What I'm speaking of, this is a problem. This, this
Speaker 6: is a problem. If me and you, if if we
Speaker 6: have if we have an argument, how we're gonna get fastive.
Speaker 2: All I gotta do is, like you have an argument,
Speaker 2: you just do it talking about it.
Speaker 1: You know I have to do six weeks.
Speaker 2: That's why I says two face, because I know there's
Speaker 2: nowhere your wife would just talk.
Speaker 1: About move on. I did just say that's what I
Speaker 1: inspire to do. That's not what I do. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm frustrated by talking about it. I have to talk
Speaker 1: about the same ship.
Speaker 4: But as a woman.
Speaker 2: Now I'm telling you, yes, you will have to talk
Speaker 2: about the same ship for six weeks until we're comfortable
Speaker 2: and feel like, okay, we're over it now, okay.
Speaker 6: But then when we're talking about it for six weeks,
Speaker 6: do you know what that six weeks do to me?
Speaker 1: That six weeks scars me. That's what.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you something, how this ship go? Please listen, listen,
Speaker 6: Please listen to this. If a woman out there, please
Speaker 6: listen to this. Once you dragging on, you're basically in
Speaker 6: a man's mind telling me how you see me. I
Speaker 6: don't want to feel that you see me as a
Speaker 6: fuck nigger because I'm gonna go extra.
Speaker 1: But if you fucked up, we're gonna taunderstand up.
Speaker 6: But if you're giving me grace, give me grace and
Speaker 6: not move on because you dragged me on.
Speaker 1: Tell me hold up, let me this please, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna just hear me. See, women, when they got a
Speaker 1: point in the head, they can't even hear you. They
Speaker 1: can't even hear you. Spring she can't even hear me
Speaker 1: because she already stuck on what you're stuck on.
Speaker 2: Because I'm stuck on the point that you made that
Speaker 2: I'm not comfortable with. So I'm gonna address it.
Speaker 4: You said, you said, this is exactly what was right, exactly.
Speaker 2: But yes, every time I talk, you said, we say
Speaker 2: the same thing. That means you're not hearing me either.
Speaker 1: No, I'm hearing you, you're not. You didn't hear me
Speaker 1: the first time you corrected me and saying what I said,
Speaker 1: because you didn't hear me.
Speaker 3: So the point, the big, the big, the big, the
Speaker 3: big point, big point, the big point of this is
Speaker 3: the great point of this is this is this is
Speaker 3: I love this because this.
Speaker 1: Is healthy, this is very healthy. I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it so healthy, it's so healthy.
Speaker 6: They said anything else about what.
Speaker 2: I got, big fang, the six months things, this is
Speaker 2: not my song ex boyfriend, y'all got to listen to
Speaker 2: my song called ex Boyfriend. It just reminds me of
Speaker 2: it so much because in the song, I started it
Speaker 2: by saying, why do men give us this feeling? I'm
Speaker 2: so unsure? They say they want love, but they do
Speaker 2: the things that make us insecure. That's how I started
Speaker 2: the song, because the truth is, men will do things
Speaker 2: to you, and then they will do the action and
Speaker 2: don't like the reaction. And I just get this vibe
Speaker 2: from even the conversation because y'all want to.
Speaker 4: Do the thing and then act like, oh okay, in.
Speaker 3: Your prior in your prior situations, you're saying, for sure,
Speaker 3: I'm sure that the men, the men fucked up sometimes
Speaker 3: right in your pride situations.
Speaker 4: Like men will do things.
Speaker 1: Let me ask this one thing.
Speaker 3: Is there accountability for the things that you did in
Speaker 3: those priore situations too? Because we know you're not perfect.
Speaker 3: That person wasn't perfect, and you're not portraying to be perfect.
Speaker 3: But there's their accountability for the things that you may
Speaker 3: have done to Maybe you potentially caused those things in
Speaker 3: back and forth stream that bad?
Speaker 6: You never heard that that wasn't even that bad? Have
Speaker 6: you ever said that at your mouth? To a niggas
Speaker 6: when a nigga telling you something and saying like, well, babe, this,
Speaker 6: well you did this, and he'd be like, well that
Speaker 6: ain't even that that like because it don't equal up
Speaker 6: to how you felt, how you felt he felt. You
Speaker 6: get what I'm saying, Woman feel like they hurt different
Speaker 6: than men just because you express it differentated don't get it.
Speaker 1: Quiet now you talk.
Speaker 4: Because he said about listening.
Speaker 1: You heard that. That's why you forgot you heard it.
Speaker 1: You heard it.
Speaker 4: But we do take things a little bit deeper than man.
Speaker 6: How you know you expressed that you take things deeper
Speaker 6: than me. How you know how men take things?
Speaker 4: I feel like we do.
Speaker 6: You expressed you wish hold up, but you expressed if
Speaker 6: your dude lose all him out of gambling and come
Speaker 6: in the house, he's gonna You're gonna know some wrong,
Speaker 6: but you're not gonna be able tell that that's what
Speaker 6: happened because he's a man. He's gonna hold horrid it.
Speaker 6: I don't want my queen the world. I'm finna go
Speaker 6: handle my business. So if I'm hurt, I don't want
Speaker 6: you to see me hurt because I don't want to
Speaker 6: be too vulnerable.
Speaker 1: I want you to know she's hurting and how she's hurting.
Speaker 2: Okay, but we're in a relationship and I hurt you.
Speaker 2: How are you gonna express yourself? You're not gonna cry
Speaker 2: and snob, No, I'm gonna because we express ourself differently,
Speaker 2: we're more emotional.
Speaker 1: We should do better and expressing ourselves.
Speaker 6: You're saying the same thing, but that don't mean I'm
Speaker 6: not internally hurt the same way.
Speaker 1: That don't mean I'm not internally hurt the same.
Speaker 4: Way, but you don't express it though happens.
Speaker 1: She's saying, how and that's fair. I've been through that.
Speaker 1: How am I gonna know? If you don't say shit? Y'all?
Speaker 1: Don't say I'm saying. I say something, but I don't
Speaker 1: drag it out.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying is, okay, Listen, if you do something
Speaker 6: to me that I don't like right and I be like,
Speaker 6: they don't do that that makes me feel like this,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you how it make me feel.
Speaker 1: It makes me feel like this. I don't like that.
Speaker 1: Please don't do that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I express that that to you, so you don't do it.
Speaker 6: But I'm hurting a woman. Could you could do the
Speaker 6: same thing to be hurt the same exact way. She's
Speaker 6: gonna come to you cry, I can't believe you did this.
Speaker 6: I understand that. I understand that, and.
Speaker 1: You're right you you you got able to It's I
Speaker 1: agree with that.
Speaker 6: But what I'm saying is you can't say because you're
Speaker 6: crying not and I'm being quiet and I'm not as hurt. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's all I'm saying. So because I'm trying to steer
Speaker 6: protect you.
Speaker 2: At the same time, that's true, because I don't want
Speaker 2: to see you crying and often like me to express yourself,
Speaker 2: that goes back.
Speaker 6: You don't hurt, you'll be like that one that bad
Speaker 6: because I didn't show those emotions. No, so you don't
Speaker 6: know that you hurt me the same way I hurt
Speaker 6: you because I didn't express I expressed it the way
Speaker 6: I know how, but I didn't do all that well.
Speaker 2: So now you gotta let men know that they need
Speaker 2: to learn how to express them.
Speaker 1: No, women need to know. If a man tell you,
Speaker 1: if a women need to know, if a man tell you, hey,
Speaker 1: they I don't like that, don't do that. That means
Speaker 1: he's hurt about that. He don't like it. Take that,
Speaker 1: I wanna take that camera.
Speaker 4: Stop talking about fat yeah, stop for.
Speaker 2: All the men behind the camera, stop talking about facts
Speaker 2: and stop picking up for him.
Speaker 4: Man don't know how to express themselves.
Speaker 1: We can.
Speaker 4: I don't know how to express We can we can?
Speaker 1: First of all.
Speaker 4: First of all, first gag.
Speaker 2: Or the cad gag me. First of all, young men
Speaker 2: don't know how to express yourself. Something will happen, y'all
Speaker 2: keep it inside. But as soon as we come and say, oh,
Speaker 2: why did you do that?
Speaker 4: But remember last week and six months ago?
Speaker 6: Perfect baby, No, you ain't perfect.
Speaker 4: So we can know because when some time we talk about.
Speaker 1: It, we gonna come pray. We can Why you bringing
Speaker 1: up something? When I bring up something? This al no
Speaker 1: hold of my almo. I go through ship too well.
Speaker 2: First of all, first of all, if I bring the
Speaker 2: stuff into a competition thing, no heart, that's where's the
Speaker 2: whole ship just goes all the.
Speaker 4: Let me say this real quick.
Speaker 2: If I'm in a relationship, because I if I'm in
Speaker 2: a relationship, but I expressed myself that you know this
Speaker 2: is I feel some kind of way about this. The
Speaker 2: moment you tell me that three weeks ago, I did something. Bitch,
Speaker 2: is a problem. We're gonna fight because you're a hypocrite.
Speaker 1: You've been with me.
Speaker 2: In my bed, sleeping with me like it was like
Speaker 2: I'm sleeping with an enemy, and you never expressed to
Speaker 2: me that you had me up.
Speaker 4: For something three weeks ago.
Speaker 8: That's curly, I feel like that that's.
Speaker 4: Enemy.
Speaker 1: That's not like sleeping with an enemy. That's like hippocrite.
Speaker 6: I ain't finna walk away while am I finna make
Speaker 6: it something until she makes some ship something.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling what. No, but if it was something,
Speaker 1: I ain't change up. She ain't do ship. I just
Speaker 1: tell you what it was.
Speaker 4: That's what.
Speaker 1: Quick and then that's how she is for a woman,
Speaker 1: and never take you. That's how.
Speaker 5: But see, the thing is for you to for you
Speaker 5: to say that you're going to hold onto it until
Speaker 5: she brings something back up. That's also lessening what she's
Speaker 5: going through because it's like you're trying to bring up
Speaker 5: some ship that you should have been brought up when
Speaker 5: it happened.
Speaker 1: Bitch, shut up this, shut up.
Speaker 2: No, No, he's taking No, he's just the same trick.
Speaker 1: That's truth.
Speaker 4: No, it's not the truth. How can you say.
Speaker 9: About you and it could be valid. Like I said earlier,
Speaker 9: she she I like her because she bringing back my points.
Speaker 9: Like I said earlier, that ain't that bad because you
Speaker 9: should have brought it up then I did, but I
Speaker 9: just didn't want to be bitchy and bitch the moant
Speaker 9: to now because.
Speaker 4: You never want to bitch you that, but you want.
Speaker 6: To bitch now because it could be like, hey, why
Speaker 6: is you changing them old with that energy?
Speaker 1: And we good energy? But when you break when you
Speaker 1: brain energy. All right, well let's put it out here.
Speaker 1: This is what it is. Man over there, Like.
Speaker 7: The other side, I'm not out of times.
Speaker 5: Like when you when you when you do that, when
Speaker 5: you try to bring up something old, when something that
Speaker 5: you've done is being brought to your attention, it seems
Speaker 5: like you're trying to deflect off.
Speaker 4: Of the ship that you did.
Speaker 1: I understand that. I understand that totally. So so so
Speaker 1: so so.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, compromise, okay, just sit
Speaker 2: there and compromise.
Speaker 1: Communications to me, I just like to let people know.
Speaker 1: Just like let people know, dude, I just I got it,
Speaker 1: I said. Unto others as they have them to do.
Speaker 1: Unto you man, right, that's the problem. Do unto others
Speaker 1: if you having to do unto you. So basically what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is.
Speaker 4: Stop cheating on us, because we're gonna cheat back.
Speaker 1: We know that. But women try to say you made
Speaker 1: me a cheatah, you been a hope. No, it ain't.
Speaker 6: No mean that can make you beatinghe I can't make
Speaker 6: you gonna say puss it for me.
Speaker 1: I can't make you do ship. I can't talk into doing.
Speaker 1: I can't do none of this. So what I can't
Speaker 1: talk to being.
Speaker 4: I don't agree.
Speaker 8: I don't agree with.
Speaker 4: No, I don't agree at all.
Speaker 1: I know you're not. You don't supposed to because that's
Speaker 1: a girl code. You're supposed to agree.
Speaker 4: I don't agree.
Speaker 2: But it can make I feel like you cannot be
Speaker 2: a cheetah.
Speaker 4: You can be a girl and not be a cheetah.
Speaker 2: But the man just pushed you, push your TV, your life,
Speaker 2: fuck that and then you just you know, God, you
Speaker 2: got that man?
Speaker 4: Why women cheat? Though? You have to understand why.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you this for facts I've been. Let
Speaker 2: me say this. I can tell you this for facts
Speaker 2: I've been with my kid's father. I never cheated on him,
Speaker 2: That nigga cheated on me, bitch, I gona funk by somebody.
Speaker 2: And then he got a problem talking about, oh I cheated,
Speaker 2: Yeah I did. The problem is when he cheated, he
Speaker 2: was hiding doing it and on a secret.
Speaker 4: When I cheat, he asked me, Yeah I did? Yeah,
Speaker 4: are you I cheated? Yeah? But that needna make me
Speaker 4: a whole. No, I was said, of your ass.
Speaker 1: So that I get it.
Speaker 4: I get that cheat a cheat by.
Speaker 1: But in a nigga mind, you already need it anyway.
Speaker 1: If you know I'm doing, you already doing anyway to
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 2: I wasn't doing it, That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing I was giving y'all.
Speaker 6: If you you're so hurt about the ship that I've
Speaker 6: been doing, you're doing something you're just.
Speaker 1: No I did.
Speaker 2: That's a man bunfootball and right troul.
Speaker 1: If you.
Speaker 10: Huh like you brought some in there, you just ship
Speaker 10: on work, no work?
Speaker 1: What I was saying, man, what else? Just saying like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she ain't even hit me?
Speaker 2: What what I was just saying you was talking about?
Speaker 2: And if we cheat were a whole we wanted to
Speaker 2: not Did I say that am, I said, cheat long time.
Speaker 1: Certain ship just ain't in certain women. But you just
Speaker 1: read them, you can't.
Speaker 6: They would walk away and be by themself before they
Speaker 6: do something to their self.
Speaker 7: Room.
Speaker 1: Certain women ain't. It just ain't him.
Speaker 6: So baby, if that was in you, it was already
Speaker 6: in you, just like a nigga who going and tail.
Speaker 6: You were already a nigga that would tell believe that.
Speaker 1: Yeah mm hmmm, I believe that if a niggle go
Speaker 1: to chain the fun out his assh was already.
Speaker 6: Nigga gonna suck out your ass, bro, Yeah, he said,
Speaker 6: needed excuse, I'm locked up now.
Speaker 4: They ain'tnna put here. Yeah, but I know, but I
Speaker 4: I but I want to I want to disagree with
Speaker 4: that just for a second, because.
Speaker 5: I have seen people that, like I know personally that
Speaker 5: never would have thought about doing anything like that, but
Speaker 5: they got their heart broken to the point where yeah,
Speaker 5: like it's it's it's some unbelievable ship going on.
Speaker 4: They had enough.
Speaker 1: The watch.
Speaker 4: Coming from the cheater of the cheater girl, Bru.
Speaker 1: Women are.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: You can have a certain loyalty as a woman when
Speaker 2: you're in a relationship, sir.
Speaker 4: There they're coming at you.
Speaker 2: But because you're so loyalty your nigga, you're not even
Speaker 2: giving them a time.
Speaker 1: Nobody else.
Speaker 2: Right, you don't see nobody else but the moment that
Speaker 2: man feel like you gotta sorry to connect the numbers.
Speaker 1: Bro, look at me. I don't agree.
Speaker 7: Why are you saying you can't say my ship to me?
Speaker 1: Back to me?
Speaker 3: I found a question on that on that ship for
Speaker 3: the women is.
Speaker 1: Is it is there any world where?
Speaker 3: And he mentioned this where just leaving and getting away
Speaker 3: from the nigga that you feel like it's cheating and
Speaker 3: doing the wrong ship can be just as gratifying as return.
Speaker 1: Because return the.
Speaker 4: Favor doesn't return the favor because all is gonna do.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you, scream dyning ain't not that but
Speaker 6: the same ship. Somebody would go through with the same nigga,
Speaker 6: act hurt and get get.
Speaker 1: The fun back. Wow.
Speaker 6: But I just feel like when it's gonna go through
Speaker 6: the same ship with another nigga besides screen they told.
Speaker 4: Me Ika just that what it ain't that only three?
Speaker 1: Yes, we we wanted the only people.
Speaker 5: What's the point if you're gonna stay with the nigga,
Speaker 5: what's the point of cheating?
Speaker 1: Just so she can feel like I feel.
Speaker 4: Who wants? Who cares about having the one up? If
Speaker 4: you're gonna stay with the nigga I do now we
Speaker 4: even you shoote Okay, so what we're saying now.
Speaker 1: With squits, Now that's.
Speaker 4: I don't for me.
Speaker 2: If a man cheat on me, I can't even move
Speaker 2: on though, that's just how I do. I just can't
Speaker 2: because what a sense whether I always have things, say
Speaker 2: you have a cheat, and then you build up all
Speaker 2: these things inside of me, and then the relationship become
Speaker 2: toxic because every time you leave, I'm gonna feel like
Speaker 2: you're gonna cheat, So then might as well I move on.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 3: You think you ever see yourself like making a relationship
Speaker 3: like a final relationship?
Speaker 1: You think you might get there like every time.
Speaker 2: So I haven't had a lot of relationship. I'm not
Speaker 2: professional in that field. I've had about my virginity, my kids, father,
Speaker 2: this maybe like every time I go in a relationship,
Speaker 2: A relationship is a relationship for a few years and
Speaker 2: whatever until they fuck up. I never ever step out
Speaker 2: of a relationship or whatever. They do something and then
Speaker 2: that's it for me.
Speaker 1: Mhm.
Speaker 2: I feel like my problem is I don't know how
Speaker 2: to work shit out. So I'll do some things and
Speaker 2: I'll say to friends and they'll be like, you could
Speaker 2: have stayed with him, Oh that's nothing, But for me
Speaker 2: it's a big thing.
Speaker 4: So it's the little thing that matters to me.
Speaker 3: But ain't ain't in every situation relationship, business, relationship, friendship, family,
Speaker 3: Ain't it gonna come with some ship that you gotta work.
Speaker 2: That's why I've lost so much people because even if
Speaker 2: we have a friendship and you do something like I
Speaker 2: just move on.
Speaker 1: Curious, Leo, why are you talking about?
Speaker 4: I knew you didn't like me. I could have tell
Speaker 4: you had a problem with me. Leo's are lawyer. We're
Speaker 4: very loyal and we just expect that same. We're very
Speaker 4: loyal and the problem.
Speaker 2: Is a lot of people come around us and they
Speaker 2: don't give us that same and we can't understand the
Speaker 2: explanation because we want to do that to you.
Speaker 1: Are bullshit? No, no, my problem. The first friend I.
Speaker 4: Ever had, he's a Leo, Yes, lawyer.
Speaker 1: He's the most loyal, and then he did something to you.
Speaker 1: He never did. Why you say.
Speaker 4: You say he's some bullshit?
Speaker 1: We say some bullshit. Is a nigga that I pulled
Speaker 1: some bullshit. The ship you said, bullshit.
Speaker 2: Noyth, what do to you for to eye for an
Speaker 2: eye and a two.
Speaker 4: For a two?
Speaker 1: That would make him that.
Speaker 4: Is are a real lawyer.
Speaker 1: But y'all be stuck way.
Speaker 4: We're very stuck in our ways.
Speaker 2: We're very we don't understand other people because y'all want
Speaker 2: to do some ship and just expect it to blow over.
Speaker 2: We hold that ship like I would never do that
Speaker 2: to you. So we're hard to forgive as well. Because
Speaker 2: of our we're very hard to forgive. And that's just
Speaker 2: one thing I pray about for myself because I know
Speaker 2: it's not right. We got to learn to forgive and
Speaker 2: let go. But the moment you do some ship with me,
Speaker 2: it's over.
Speaker 6: Yeah, But all the type of nigga, it's hard to forgive.
Speaker 6: But I could just adapt to our new I'm a mirror.
Speaker 6: Why you do something to me, I might not doing
Speaker 6: that back to you, but I just know the energy
Speaker 6: now I ain't finishes.
Speaker 2: I'm just we categorize the friendship, so you do something,
Speaker 2: we just put you in where we know you exactly,
Speaker 2: and then a lot.
Speaker 1: Of people it's just I can't put that right.
Speaker 4: Then A lot of people. For me.
Speaker 2: I'll be in a relationship and I'll tell you all
Speaker 2: I love you and it's been five years and you
Speaker 2: probably do something drink my juice, and you shouldn't drink
Speaker 2: my juice.
Speaker 4: It's over and I'm just gone.
Speaker 1: That's the.
Speaker 2: Very petty like I just cut you off. I like
Speaker 2: I cut people out very easily and just move on
Speaker 2: to bro like I don't know, I ain't yeah, and
Speaker 2: that's it. And once we say we'll be laughing and
Speaker 2: I'll be like, no, I'm done with him, and you
Speaker 2: don't take it serious, but I'm done.
Speaker 4: That just that one sentence, So not.
Speaker 3: One final question, like what on Mirror twenty five is project?
Speaker 3: How much of all these topics are embodied in most
Speaker 3: of it?
Speaker 2: Most of it because so twenty five songs that's on
Speaker 2: my album. It's called Mirror twenty five because of my
Speaker 2: twenty five years.
Speaker 4: But most of the songs are like diary.
Speaker 2: So I have a song called ex Boyfriend, which is
Speaker 2: what I brought up in the conversation because I was
Speaker 2: talking about because I have an ex boyfriend, I'm looking
Speaker 2: for a next boyfriend. And in that song, I'm just
Speaker 2: telling girls like listen I just can't understand men and
Speaker 2: how they think.
Speaker 6: So you just said, I'm gonna cut you. I'm gonna
Speaker 6: cut you. Cut your ass off. So you can take
Speaker 6: this back. We said your ex boyfriend boyfriend.
Speaker 1: I have an ex boy you just said on him.
Speaker 1: You think the nigga of any what.
Speaker 6: You said, Well, all the ship that you just said
Speaker 6: on him. Every man in hell agree with me?
Speaker 1: Crazy that man with me? But you just say man.
Speaker 2: No, I said, I'm looking for a next boyfriend that's
Speaker 2: a man, because of course, so I'm not settling for less.
Speaker 6: Okay, if you go get a man, this ship is.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm totally disagree with me.
Speaker 4: And no, not all men thinks like how you think,
Speaker 4: what the ones you like?
Speaker 1: That's what I want a problem. That's how I got a.
Speaker 7: Problem with y'all ass because I like real man. That's
Speaker 7: why I always got a problem.
Speaker 1: Appreciation. You gotta holler us again for sure, screaming your projects.
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