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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too. It is our number two of the Drive

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Speaker 2: here on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network,

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Speaker 2: West Shooler and Matt Williamson with you here as we

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Speaker 2: get into a little fantasy football focus to kick off

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Speaker 2: our number two on a Tuesday, Matt, I figured we

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Speaker 2: would talk top waiver wire options today.

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Speaker 3: Good Tuesday thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good Tuesday thing, I think, especially at

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Speaker 2: this point, you're starting to injuries are piling up a

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Speaker 2: lot of teams week for rolling in. So let's get into,

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Speaker 2: uh into some of these if that's all right with you.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, I'm up some names on this

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Speaker 2: list because I've had Omari and Hampton get hurt for me,

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Speaker 2: Trey Benson get hurt for me. I've had some some

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Speaker 2: running back attrition here.

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Speaker 3: So let's all excited about Benson for like a half

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Speaker 3: for yeah, Connor gets hurt and like like, oh no.

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Speaker 2: Same here. I thought that that was going to be

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Speaker 2: a steal for me, and it ended up kind of.

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Speaker 3: He's not gonna be out super long, but yes.

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Speaker 2: But still not what you want in the kind of

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Speaker 2: As we get towards the middle of the season here

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Speaker 2: and really rolling into this thing, let's start with Mason Taylor.

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Speaker 2: I think decidedly the Jets number two wide receiver. Matt

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Speaker 2: He's only owned in thirteen percent of Yahoo Fantasy leagues

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Speaker 2: right now. How do you feel about Mason Taylor is

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Speaker 2: an option?

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Speaker 3: I'm a big fan, so like in my main league,

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Speaker 3: I used a really high pick on Kittle, which was

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Speaker 3: brutal because I didn't even draft a second tight end.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm never going to start the second guy.

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Speaker 3: Sure of all the guys that couldn't get hurt, he's

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Speaker 3: the one that got hurt that was really hard to overcome.

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Speaker 3: So I've been like piecing tight end together ever since

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Speaker 3: with like Chiga wonk Wo and dudes like that. And

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Speaker 3: I feel smart because a week ago I picked up

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Speaker 3: Mason Taylor with the thoughts of they could be in

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Speaker 3: a high scoring game. He's really emerging as the Jets

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Speaker 3: number two. He doesn't have to be in a great offense,

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Speaker 3: but I love them coming out of school. I think

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Speaker 3: he's a borderline tight end one, you know, and you

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Speaker 3: could do a lot worse. You know, Bowers is not

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Speaker 3: himself right now. There's a lot of tight end attrition

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Speaker 3: going on, so he should probably be in every league

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Speaker 3: after last week. I mean, if they're in ball like

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Speaker 2: That they did, and he's just it's like you said,

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Speaker 2: I mean almost by process of elimination he is. He's

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Speaker 2: going to start getting like tight end one type targets,

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Speaker 2: I would think, and still pretty widely available that yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: right are at this standpoint. I think that's a real

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Speaker 2: name for people to write down and highlight and take

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Speaker 2: the peak if you need some tight end help.

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Speaker 3: And I like him a lot, and they need to start.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they don't have any wins. They got to

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Speaker 3: start a youth movement here and realize that they're playing

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Speaker 3: for tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: You know, how about Kenneth Gainwell? How we feeling about

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Speaker 2: Kenneth Gainwell to this point only owned thirty six percent

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Speaker 2: of Yahoo Fantasy leagues.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure they went up a bunch after a

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Speaker 3: week ago.

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Speaker 2: A week ago. Yeah, absolutely, we know Jalen Warren is

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Speaker 2: head and back, but how we feeling about Kenneth Gainwell

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Speaker 3: I'm a fan. Don't get me wrong, but I think

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Speaker 3: he's a little bit of fool's gold. If you're not

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Speaker 2: That might be his top performance of the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, saw Yeah, Like if this was a Seattle show,

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Speaker 3: people might be like, oh, he might be the number

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Speaker 3: one there. I'm like, no, he's not gonna be number one,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean he's probably a handcuff. So however,

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Speaker 3: you value a handcuff great, and he'll get I don't

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Speaker 3: even think he's flexworthy, you know. The day with Warren's

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Speaker 2: This game, yeah, it's not going to be the twenty

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Speaker 2: five touches that he had in Dublin. No, No, certainly,

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Speaker 3: And if you're a warrant owner and you believe in handcuffs,

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Speaker 3: well grab Gamewell.

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Speaker 2: How are we feeling about Michael Carter? He's been an

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Speaker 2: interesting name for you because we know Connor's out, Benson's out.

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Speaker 2: Cardo did not cover himself in glory and seems to

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Speaker 2: be it seems to be in the doghouse already in Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Gotta be, is it?

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Speaker 2: Michael Carter? Just by default at this point.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is kind of like the same conversation

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Speaker 3: with like the Chargers is it almost doesn't matter, especially

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Speaker 3: this time of year, at the running back position, if

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Speaker 3: going to be the workhorse because of attrition, you have

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Speaker 3: to put in a waiver claims numbers game. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: unless you're loaded at running back, which f you are,

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Speaker 3: I look at running back very much as a week

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Speaker 3: I don't have Benson, if you rent Carter for two

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Speaker 3: weeks and use them as a flex or a number two,

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Speaker 3: he's at least gonna touch the ball a lot.

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Speaker 2: Not kill you, yeh know, hopefully not give you goose

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Speaker 3: If you need to find a starter of some sort.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't pick him up, use a ton

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Speaker 3: of your bench for two weeks, right, unless you're going

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Speaker 3: to work a trade or you know you're blocking somebody.

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Speaker 2: But certainly a viable option if you need help. Only

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Speaker 2: owned in thirty four percent of y'all.

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Speaker 3: Who I guess how I should open it was? He's

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Speaker 3: clearly the one now in Arizona. That's all you need

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Speaker 2: You get a running back. Yeah, clearly the one, the

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Speaker 2: one on the on the waiver wire.

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Speaker 3: Like in the Charger situation, it's not as clear it's

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Speaker 3: either going to be Haskins or Vidal. Yes, and I

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Speaker 3: bet I'm betting on Vydal. I just think he's a

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Speaker 3: more well rounded player. But who knows. And that's a

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Speaker 3: team too, like could they trade for someone to do

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Speaker 3: this any minute? Possible? Maybe? You know, both these teams

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Speaker 2: How we feel about theo Johnson? Uh, Since Molite Neighbors

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Speaker 2: went down, he is tied for the Giants target share

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Speaker 2: team leading twenty one point six percent. Some life in

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Speaker 2: that offense now with Jackson Dart, and he is only

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Speaker 2: owned an eleven percent of Yahoo Fantasy leagues right now.

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Speaker 3: Similar conversation with Mason Taylor. You know the New York

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Speaker 3: Young tight end that I like the player a lot.

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Speaker 3: I've been stashing him in these deep dynasty leagues I'm

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Speaker 3: in that have like twenty five man rosters, and because

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Speaker 3: he's talented, I mean, the Penn State guy, people might remember.

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Speaker 3: He's a bigger tight end. He's like two sixty two

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Speaker 3: a lot of target competition. They're probably gonna be losing

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Speaker 3: a lot. Their schedule gets really horrible from now on.

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Speaker 3: So he should be in every league too. I prefer

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Speaker 3: Taylor if I was picking up one of the two.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Christian Kirk owned in thirty one percent of

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Speaker 2: the league's is it is he the number two option

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Speaker 2: for CJ. Stroud right now? Still a little too early.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Both Iowa State kids though, did stuff, but they

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Speaker 3: also score a million points against the Ravens. You know,

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Speaker 3: so I guess Kirk should be in leagues, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's got a track record. He's a good

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Speaker 3: football player, but I'm not I'm not throwing in my

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Assan Haskins He is right now owned by

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Speaker 2: just a little over one percent of y'all that fantasy league,

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Speaker 2: and that will change, should change at least certainly. He

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Speaker 2: played for Jim Harbaugh back at Michigan Michigan Wolverine. There

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Speaker 2: Najie Harris out, Omari and Hampton out. What I mean.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's a guy that you're putting any

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Speaker 2: I think he's at least a viable option to add

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I prefer by now, but it's always hard. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is just a generic fantasy lesson for everyone is

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Speaker 3: when the starter gets hurt, what happens from that point

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Speaker 3: on in that game doesn't always tell you what the

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Speaker 3: plans are, you know what I mean? Because some gimes

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Speaker 3: a running back's only active, like the Benny Snell is

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Speaker 3: he's great on teams, so he got to use.

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Speaker 2: Like kind of what we saw was Scotty Miller in Dublin.

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Speaker 2: Just because he got the ten snaps for Calvin Austin

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Speaker 3: On Sunday one thousand percent, especially when you're talking about

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Speaker 3: that might only be have a helmet because they're good

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Speaker 3: on teams. So I think Haskins is more of a

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Speaker 3: special teamer than Vidal. So that's why I leaned towards

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Speaker 3: Vaidal being the better runner, and just on tape, I

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Speaker 3: think he is. But it's probably a yucky committee because

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Speaker 3: either one's really good and they have a high pass

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Speaker 3: mess and you know you gotta be pretty desperate for

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Speaker 3: that crew. But I understand it.

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Speaker 2: How about Ken Dre Miller, He's starting to get some

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Speaker 2: early spin over Alvin Kamara owned in just thirty two

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Speaker 2: percent of Yahoo Fantasy leagues right now.

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Speaker 3: I would not let him sit out. I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: he's gonna, like again, change bounce power, win your league.

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Speaker 3: But I could see Kamara being a trade candidate. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I coul see him end it up in Kansas City

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Speaker 3: or something like that. I mean, their season is close

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Speaker 3: to shot. Kamara is now just kind of a receiving back.

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Speaker 3: Miller's good. I mean, I think he's flashed quite a bit,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think their offense is terrible. I think

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Speaker 3: he's usable right away.

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Speaker 2: A couple more that I want to run by you here, Matt.

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Speaker 2: How about Josh Downs from Indy. He's owned in just

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Speaker 2: under fifty percent of leagues, had eight targets for a

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Speaker 2: twenty five percent target share for the Colts offense last week.

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Speaker 3: He makes me crazy, good way or bad way both,

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Speaker 3: Like I wish he was a Steeler, Yeah, because I

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Speaker 3: think he's one of the most underrated football players in

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Speaker 3: the league. And the Colts just don't quite agree with

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Speaker 3: me because he's never out there in two receiver sets

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Speaker 3: and that kills you for fantasy, I mean, is used to.

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Speaker 3: This past week was better than it's been, but they

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Speaker 3: were also winning by a million, and Donnie Mitchell was

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Speaker 3: in the doghouse, and they just have so many targets.

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Speaker 3: Warren's getting featured. Pittman never leaves field, nor should he.

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Speaker 3: He's really good.

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Speaker 2: Those guys are very good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Pearson Mitchell or the number two's running long routes

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Speaker 3: and Downs is just kind of the slot. But he's

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Speaker 3: And he's really really good the game. But that's just

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Speaker 2: Certainly from a fantasy football standpoint, right right, But he does.

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Speaker 2: He's got the upside to really produce. Yes, and he's

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Speaker 3: He can line up outside, and they just don't use

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Speaker 2: For that last one to run past you. Quarterback JJ

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Speaker 3: I assume he'll be inserted right back.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing is, whoever the starter is.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna throw to Jefferson and Hawkinson and Addison and

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely.

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Speaker 4: I mean, not like top twelve or anything. Sure, because

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Speaker 4: weekly power rankings where the Steelers where or what's the

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Speaker 4: Matt Williamson, It's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on

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Speaker 4: a Steelers Audio network, your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: It's a Tuesday on the Drive here. Namely, that means

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Speaker 2: some things. One is that it is time for our

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Speaker 2: the list, Matthew. The loan NFL team still looking for

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Speaker 2: their first win. It is the New York Jets. Jets. Jets, Jets,

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 3: They're the only team that hasn't won fine and frankly,

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Speaker 3: they're extremely disappointing, especially the defense. I don't think fields

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that gets you out of the

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Speaker 2: Good news for the Jets though. All you have to

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a long year.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a long year. If if we

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Speaker 2: That's something remind me when we get to the post

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Speaker 3: I actually did one of those yesterday, did you, And

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Speaker 2: I was gonna just off the top of my head,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, because I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Think anythink the Jets would be on that list.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think the Raiders would be on that list.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, speak. It's a pretty long list right now.

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Speaker 2: And speaking of the Raiders, there at number thirty one,

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Speaker 3: Brock Bowers shouldn't be out there.

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Speaker 2: He's banged up.

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Speaker 3: May heard this past week too.

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Speaker 2: Everything that can go wrong for them has gone wrong.

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Speaker 2: They might be the team right now that if you

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't be the Jets for me.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it would be for me either. I

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Speaker 3: I think that's harsh.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a little harsh. I know they're one

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Speaker 3: They beat the Titans right now. I think they beat

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely ahead of the Raiders. Jets would be a

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Speaker 2: But Miami checks in at number thirty and number twenty one.

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Speaker 2: This one's a little surprising to me. It's the Browns

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Speaker 3: I understand, but they played them really tough.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I said this yesterday. I still believe it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think they're better than the Ravens and

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Speaker 3: They're not playing right now.

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Speaker 2: Anyone's going to struggle to score more than twenty one

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Speaker 3: So you lose that game, I mean, and it wouldn't

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Speaker 2: You know number twenty eight. Also at four and one,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you'll just lost to the Saints.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you blew an eleven point lead in that

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Speaker 3: It's about right. I would have Cleveland ahead of them,

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Speaker 2: Certainly, you know, certainly, but some some positive signs for

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Speaker 2: It could still you know, they could only end up

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Speaker 3: The next year. The problem for them, and you could

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Speaker 2: It's tough.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's worse than that.

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Speaker 2: It's real tough. Twenty seven. I can't believe they're this high.

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Speaker 2: And I know it's only twenty seven, but the Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: We've talked them to death already this week. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: They would be thirty or thirty one or thirty two.

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Speaker 3: For they lose to Miami right now, yes, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: They beat the.

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Speaker 2: Jets, Bengals, Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Who you got Raiders one I put behind them.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's it, that's it. It's not great right now

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Speaker 3: Way too kind, way too kinda. The Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals just wrapped that thing. They fumbled all over themselves,

439
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,200
Speaker 2: threw up all over themselves.

440
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they don't win that game. And no, no,

441
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,760
Speaker 3: that's way too kind for Tennessee.

442
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 2: You're ready for this one this weekend in Las Vegas,

443
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 2: Raiders host the Titans.

444
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,440
Speaker 3: Raiders should hope to lose that just for the quarterback

445
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 3: draft implications, Yeah, I mean Tennessee's and take a quarterback,

446
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:10,640
Speaker 3: but right.

447
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,200
Speaker 2: They're not, but that that one could go a long

448
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 2: way and determining who's going to have a top three

449
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,879
Speaker 2: pick come April on the North Shore here in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

450
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Speaker 2: But yeah, usually when you go to Vegas it's for

451
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 2: a show or for some fun. This is not the

452
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Speaker 2: show you want to catch.

453
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 3: This weekend gets cheap for that one.

454
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 2: Number twenty five, up six spots after getting their first

455
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,719
Speaker 2: win as well too. It's the New Orleans Saints.

456
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,640
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not sure I'm ready to put them over Miami,

457
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 3: you know, as a team or two. I probably would

458
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 3: still have above of them.

459
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 2: But some some life there, and that offense has some pieces.

460
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 3: Brattler's been good. I mean he's not been and I

461
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,639
Speaker 3: don't I guess he's not been bad. They say he's

462
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,399
Speaker 3: been goods a little strong, and the offense does some things,

463
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 3: you know. Beating the Giants doesn't shoot them up my board.

464
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 2: Though, No, no, but hey, they have not been terrible either.

465
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 3: No, they've had two bad games, but other than that,

466
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 3: they've been competitive.

467
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 2: Twenty four The Carolina Panthers at two and three, after

468
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: getting victory over the Dolphins.

469
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Speaker 3: I guess you have to have them over Miami, but

470
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Speaker 3: I would have them that much more over Miami. But

471
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Speaker 3: that's more of a Miami thing than Carolina. I'm fine

472
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Speaker 3: with where they're slotted.

473
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 2: I agree this one a little too high for me.

474
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 2: Cardinals at twenty three, after their third straight loss and

475
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 2: just a debacle at home. No other way to put.

476
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Speaker 3: Terrible, mojo terrible. They seem like they're really going the

477
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 3: wrong way. I think this offseason is going to be like,

478
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 3: we have to have a Kyler conversation coaching staff, coaching staff.

479
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 3: You know, you guys took over a really bad situation,

480
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 3: but you're not any further much, right, right, Yeah, that's

481
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 3: about right.

482
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 2: Twenty two, Matt, the lowest I can ever remember them

483
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 2: in power rankings at least in the last decade, plus,

484
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 2: down six spots after are getting blown out at home

485
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 2: to the Texans the Baltimore Ravens. At twenty two, it's

486
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: hard to argue at this point.

487
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 3: No, I mean, if anything, they should be lower for

488
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Speaker 3: how you're playing right now. If you just attach the

489
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 3: name and the colors and the coach and all that,

490
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 3: and just watch what they're putting on tape, it's as

491
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 3: bad as anyone.

492
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly is. And giving up a ton of points.

493
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna get hammered by the Rams.

494
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 2: And since nineteen ninety one in four teams have made

495
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 2: the playoffs just twelve times out of one hundred and

496
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: seventy four opportunities.

497
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 3: And what I wonder what one and five teams are which.

498
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 2: They certainly could be after visiting the Rams this weekend.

499
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: The Atlanta Falcons checking in at twenty one. They're at

500
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Speaker 2: two and.

501
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 3: Two, coming off a byre coming off of a bye.

502
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: Listen, there's some reasons for optimism. There's still some questions.

503
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: I think this is about right for Atlantic Goats. Could

504
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 2: still certainly go either way for them this year.

505
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not a team we mentioned I'd put over them. No,

506
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 3: So I'm fine with that.

507
00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 2: That's a good way to put it.

508
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean they're that's the lowest they should be.

509
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 3: I mean, there's nobody we mentioned that I put.

510
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: Over at number twenty up two spots this week, clawing

511
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: back the five hundred two to two and one with

512
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: a I'll tell you what pretty good offense despite a

513
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 2: lot of missing pieces, led by Dak Prescott. It's the

514
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys at twenty.

515
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 3: I'm really impressed. Yeah, I mean I thought, you know,

516
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 3: if you told me they know cdee lamb know Michael Parsons.

517
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 2: In a beat up offensive line, Yeah, and.

518
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 3: I would think, boy, they're gonna be twenty six in

519
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Speaker 3: the power rank. They're not. I mean they run the

520
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Speaker 3: ball great, yes, and pickens and Ferguson's more than enough

521
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 3: for DAK at the moment, and they're gonna play shootouts

522
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 3: and be.

523
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Speaker 2: Competitive tomorrow for Best of the West. We're gonna do

524
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 2: MVP candidates. M I'm gonna have Dak pretty high on

525
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Speaker 2: that list at this piece.

526
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 3: He's playing like it. I mean, you have to win games.

527
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 2: Got to win the game, but you gotta at least

528
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 2: stay above five hundred and in a playoff hunt.

529
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 3: But there's not money players playing better right now.

530
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: They're certainly not. No, I like it he is, he's been.

531
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Speaker 3: Very MVP candidates.

532
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 2: Well get that, get that marinate for tomorrow nineteen. The

533
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears coming off of BIY didn't do anything this

534
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 2: past week two and two, I think, feeling certainly better

535
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: than they were at the start of the season, and

536
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: some more consistency from Caleb Williams, which has gone along.

537
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 3: That's the whole season's about, and that's going the right way,

538
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 3: so good. I mean, it's weird to talk about the

539
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 3: teams coming off of bye for power ranks this early

540
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Speaker 3: in the year. If you've been week nine by you

541
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Speaker 3: a little different. I mean, if I take twenty percent

542
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 3: out of your body of work, already. It's like, I

543
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 3: don't know where to rank them, you know.

544
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. Up five spots climbing the boards.

545
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,959
Speaker 2: Here the three and two New England Patriots check in

546
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Speaker 2: at eighteen.

547
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: Good. I was kind of thinking that the author might

548
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: put them too high, like oh.

549
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 2: They've arrived, and put them in eleven or twelve, right, like, oh,

550
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: they're right.

551
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 3: In the hunt. I don't see them in that way.

552
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 3: But positive momentum.

553
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: You and I have said many times. It's something Arthur

554
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: Motes used to drill into my into my nogging in

555
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,239
Speaker 2: into the show. Progression is not always linear, No, it

556
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: never is. And so the Patriots could go out and

557
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 2: get smacked around a couple times this season too.

558
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but I expect them to.

559
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: I expect them too as well.

560
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

561
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: I think it's at least as long as you're taking

562
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: more steps forward than you are backwards, as long as

563
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: the arrow is still pointing up, and I think they're

564
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 2: in that position.

565
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: I have no idea when they play the Bills next,

566
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 3: but I'm going to pick the Bills to win big. Yeah,

567
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: you bet that game now, whatever the spread is, I'll

568
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 3: take Buffalo minus.

569
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: I like that one too, number seventeen, up four spots

570
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: after their second straight win, feeling good after kind of

571
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 2: being on that on that dead man's watch list. It's

572
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 2: the Houston Texans at seventeen. Monty Python knock dead.

573
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm starting to be a believer. I'm starting to

574
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: be a believer.

575
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: The defense is really good.

576
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: Defense are really good. Yeah. Part of it though, is

577
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 3: just how bad the Ravens are you know stock?

578
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: I mean, they beat them down, but how much stock

579
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: can you put in?

580
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: I mean, they're their momentum is beating that Ravens team

581
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: and the Titans. So let's see what you're real you're at.

582
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: But I do have faith in the organization, with.

583
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: You, with you on that and that again, that division

584
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 2: I think is going to be It's fun all of

585
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: a sudden, a lot of a lot of fun. They

586
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 2: Houston hits there by now before they've got a tough stretch.

587
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: Come number sixteen, up one spot after taking down the

588
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 2: Browns there at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in North London. It's

589
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings at sixteen.

590
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: Okay, there are are lines of mess right now, and

591
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 3: I think you still have to have quarterback questions.

592
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, But the rest is good. You know, defense

593
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: is final, right, Defense is good. Playmakers are good. But

594
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: when you got o line and quarterback questions, I think

595
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: this is about the right spot. Yeah, middle of the package.

596
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 3: But could you put them over Atlanta? Yes, I think so,

597
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: you know, but they're not far.

598
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: No, oh no, not terribly far. Same conversation. But I

599
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 2: think this is about right for Minnesota, kind of dead

600
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: average in the league. Yeah, at fifteen, down one spot

601
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: off their bye week, it's your Pittsburgh Steelers. Okay, I

602
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: think this is about right.

603
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 3: I don't have a big problem with it. There's an

604
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 3: a team I'm.

605
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: Looking at, like the Chargers ahead of them. I think

606
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 2: i'd have them ahead of the Chargers right now.

607
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did the Chargers a couple spots lower than that.

608
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 3: But I've been asked on a lot of airwaves the

609
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 3: last twenty four hours. What AFC teams are better than

610
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: the Steelers.

611
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. We spent some time time.

612
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 3: Yesterday and Jacksonville was hard to comment on before the game,

613
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 3: but I definitely have the Steelers had the Chargers.

614
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Chargers at fourteen's an interesting one to me.

615
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: And they're down. They're down six spots, so that's a

616
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: pretty significant drop for them from eight to fourteen, but

617
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: two straight losses. The offensive line is knackered, their top

618
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: period running backs are out.

619
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I just Erbert's getting beat up on,

620
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 3: but he's playing great.

621
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: In kind of the true sense of power ranking scheme,

622
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: I get they dropped six spots. Yeah, but like I

623
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: think I might have them drop a little bit further.

624
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure that they're favored against the Kings,

625
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: Vikings Atlanta that those type of teams. Yeah, they're pretty similar.

626
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 2: If they're coming to Akrosser Stadium Sunday, I bet you

627
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 2: the Steelers are slight favorites. Yeah, not crazy, but two

628
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: and a half, three and a half points.

629
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: In LA with a bunch of Steeler fans, I think

630
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 3: they would.

631
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: As well too. Yeah, the two and a half points

632
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: out there in LA, something like that. Chargers checking it

633
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 2: at fourteen. I got a feeling they're gonna continue to

634
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 2: go in the wrong direction. Uh Number thirteen four and

635
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: one A gutsy Thursday Night win against the Rams. It's

636
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: the Niners. If with hard to argue, especially in the

637
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: face of the adversity and the injuries that they've they've

638
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: continued to win games.

639
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 3: We were talking about on my other podcast, and they

640
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: have a win over Seattle, they have a win over

641
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: the Rams, like, they're in really good shape to get

642
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: to the postseason. They have a super easy schedule. Their

643
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: wins are the right kind of wins. I mean, I

644
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: think they love to Jacksonville, which doesn't hurt them hardly

645
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: at all. I mean an AFC loss so where they're

646
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: sitting is great. I don't know if they're good or not,

647
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 3: though I don't know, you know, I mean, at least

648
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: you got, like I can Kittle and Purdy on the horile.

649
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: I say, there's some benefit of the doubt there for

650
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: a team that has been mostly good for the last

651
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: five six.

652
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: No question. I know their head coach can get your wins.

653
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Number twelve two and three, tough loss Monday

654
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: night last night. It's the chief set number twelve.

655
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: That's still the Chiefs over the Jags. I know. That's

656
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: not how power ranks work. I mean, if you want comments.

657
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Speaker 2: At eleven, so there's one spot ahead of them.

658
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 3: I mean, if you want your comments to blow up

659
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: on power ranks, put a team that just lost behind

660
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 3: ahead of the other one totally.

661
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: But it's like the same thing with the ap pole.

662
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: You know what, right, Oh Miss beats LSU, but LSU

663
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: still ranked ahead of Old Miss.

664
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,959
Speaker 3: That's insane right now.

665
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: If it's six weeks from now, it's a different story.

666
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: But in the wake of it happening. But Chiefs at twelve,

667
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: Jags at eleven, I don't have a problem.

668
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: I'm not going to you too bad on that.

669
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Denver checking in at number ten, up

670
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: two spots.

671
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: You'd all three of them ahead of the Steelers though

672
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 3: in the AFC, Chiefs, Jags, Denver, Yes, I would too, Yes,

673
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: although I'd like the Steelers chances against the Jags.

674
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: Right now, I think I wouldn't hate the Steelers chances

675
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: against any of those teams.

676
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I don't think that they'd get blown out

677
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: by anything.

678
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: But especially the Jags.

679
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

680
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: Chiefs are still a weird one for me. I've told

681
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: you this and I'll continue to say it until the

682
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: body's cold. I'm not writing them off either. And they're

683
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: getting Checko back and she Rice back, and but they're

684
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: an interesting one. They are. They're losing those close games

685
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: so far this season that they would typically find ways

686
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: to win.

687
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: But if of the Chiefs Broncos and Jags. If one

688
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: of them is a fugazi, it's the Jags. Yes, yeah,

689
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 3: we might look back in November and be like, oh,

690
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: they lost five in a row after like that could happen.

691
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: No doubt, Whereas the Broncos and the Chiefs could rattle

692
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: off five straight now.

693
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: I think they'll prizes all the way to the Yeah,

694
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: all the way.

695
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: Back into the top ten. Here Broncos at ten, like

696
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: I mentioned, back into the top ten? Is the Washington

697
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: Commanders up two spots?

698
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: I'd have them five spots lower.

699
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: I think so too. Yeah, I would have all those

700
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: teams we just talked about ahead of the Commanders.

701
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: I know they just beat the Chargers. I'd probably have

702
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 3: them like one spot ahead of Chargers. Yes, but no way,

703
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: they had better than Denver the Chiefs to.

704
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: Be commander Steelers this weekend. How would it play out?

705
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: I'd pick the Steelers.

706
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: I think I would too. Yeah, slightly, Yeah, but I

707
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: think I would.

708
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: It's probably a you know, home teams favored by two

709
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: and a half or something like that.

710
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: It would depend on where the game was, Yeah, play

711
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: a role in it. Number eight up two spots. Continuing

712
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: to impress, not going away the Indianapolis Colts.

713
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: I'm fine with that. Their loss was even good. I

714
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: mean they've had you know, it's true. I mean they

715
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: really haven't done anything wrong.

716
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, the schedule kind of shakes

717
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: out nicely for them. They could easily be six and two,

718
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: seven and one when they head here to Pittsburgh in

719
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: Week nine, which could be a yeah, a big kind

720
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: of circle the calendar game that I don't think any

721
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: of us had circled went into this season.

722
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think they're a few Gays.

723
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: I don't either. Yeah, I do not down three spots

724
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: after that tough loss to the Niners. It's the three

725
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: and two la Rams checking in at number seven.

726
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: I just have such extreme faith in Stafford and McVeigh

727
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: I do too. Yeah, you give them pookah and I mean.

728
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: Great weapons, solid defensive front.

729
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

730
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: I think this is about where they'll be for the

731
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: course of the season.

732
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: I bet they're ten at the lowest if they have

733
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: a bad two week stretch, and could be as high

734
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: as five or four at some point. You know, they're

735
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: not going anywhere.

736
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 5: Six and six.

737
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 2: Another one of those at six, pardon me, another one

738
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: of those tough to evaluate off the bye week teams.

739
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: The Packers stay and put at six at their two

740
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: to one and one record to.

741
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 3: This point, last two games have them been great, but.

742
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: Bye week I think they'll get back to doing Packers

743
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: t things and Micaeh Parsons should be fully unleashed now they're.

744
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: Playing the Bengals.

745
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: God speed to Browning or to flack at right, whichever

746
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: one it is.

747
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: No, I think they'd blow them out.

748
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: Number five, despite losing a close one at home to

749
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: the Bucks. It's the Seattle Seahawks stay and put at

750
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: number five.

751
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 3: I definitely wouldn't ding them. They better than the Rams,

752
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 3: They better than the Packers. We could fight about that.

753
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: I could fight about that. But Packers coming off a

754
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: bye week, Rams coming off a loss five might be

755
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: a little too rich for Seattle in my But I

756
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: definitely think they belong in the top ten.

757
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: I'm not sure only four teams on the plant are

758
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: better than them, but they're really good.

759
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: I think they definitely belong and I think.

760
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 3: They're a playoff team and could see the Bucks again, you.

761
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: Know, certainly could. And speaking of the Bucks, they are

762
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: at number four, up three spots, fair four and one.

763
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about Baker Mayfield and that MVP conversation tomorrow.

764
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: I mean they just I mean a BUKO would be

765
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: offensive rookie year.

766
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: Offensive Rookie of the Year. I mean, they have a

767
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: lot going for them despite overcoming some injuries.

768
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,239
Speaker 3: At the same time, say they've had some injuries and

769
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: Mike Evans should be back, I mean, like you throw

770
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: him in that mix.

771
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: Like Bucky Irving.

772
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I forgot about him too. I mean they

773
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: worfs was out for a.

774
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: While, was back, Yeah, but he's been out a whole while. Overcome,

775
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: no doubt, the Bucks are in a good spot and

776
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: look like one of the better teams in the NFC

777
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: for sure.

778
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

779
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: Number three down one spot after that loss at home

780
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: to Drake may and the Patriots. It's Buffalo checking in

781
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: at number three. I'm fine with that.

782
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: I'm fine with that. They made more mistakes than they

783
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 3: usually do in that game, and they're not perfect.

784
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: They got weaknesses, but they've also got all right.

785
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: Right right that way in the hunt every step of

786
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 3: the way.

787
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 2: Number two. Also dropping their first game of the season,

788
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: the Eagles fall to the Broncos. They fall down one

789
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 2: spot to number two in the Power rankings.

790
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 3: We haven't talked much about it, but there's weird stuff

791
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 3: going on with AJ Brown.

792
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is.

793
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: They're not utilizing them the same way. They're not scheming

794
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 3: things up. He doesn't look quite as good. The stuff

795
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: coming out of his mouth and whatnot is not great.

796
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: Looks like he's taking a lot of routes off.

797
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's more to them. I think there's flames to

798
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 3: that smoke that they need to deal with.

799
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 2: There is. You know, that's always an intriguing, say situation

800
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: to me because AJ Brown is the godfather to Jalen

801
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: hurts his child really Okay, or maybe it's the other

802
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 2: way around, but is the godfather? Yes, but they're like

803
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: great friends. One of them is the godfather to the

804
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: other one's child. Like their relationship over the past year has.

805
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 4: On the field, On the field has seemed a little fractured, right, But.

806
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: This is everyone was saying the same thing this time

807
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: last year and they figured it out and he was

808
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: happy and they were happy, and they went on to

809
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl. But man, this time around seems

810
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: a little more smoky, little more fiery, and.

811
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: It's easy to see brown side of things. You gonna

812
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: throw me the ball on the stud. But you watch

813
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: him on tape, he might be declining. I hope not.

814
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: He's one of my favorite guys to root for. But

815
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: Smith might be the better player right this second.

816
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: You know, interesting one to keep an eye on.

817
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 3: And there's stuff going on there, That's what I'm saying.

818
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: And then at number one up to spots, after the

819
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: Eagles and the Bills lost, it is the d Troit

820
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: Lions they're rolling.

821
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: I guess I can't fight them with.

822
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: One four in a row, right, pretty convincingly beating those

823
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: teams too.

824
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not just squeaking by over the Bengals and

825
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: teams like that. I mean they're blowing people out.

826
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 2: I think the top four is correct. Detroit, Philly, Buffalo, Tampa.

827
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: You could give them to me in any order and

828
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: I wouldn't argue right.

829
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, I don't know that I could put Tampa one.

830
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's fair.

831
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: Boy Baker's playing well.

832
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: If he's playing as well as he is, man, I

833
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 2: tell you what. Like you said too, he's still got

834
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: that walk on mentality. He just doesn't matter that he

835
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 2: won the Heisman, doesn't matter that he was the first

836
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: overall pick. Like he's still every game takes that field

837
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: like he's got to prove it to the world.

838
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: My son texted me a bunch yesterday, He's like, I

839
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: think Baker is my favorite quarterback in the league now. Yeah,

840
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: just so easy to root for, you know that, that

841
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: mentality if you're eighteen nineteen year old, I mean, like,

842
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 3: how could you not love root.

843
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 2: For that and kind of sticking it to the Browns

844
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: thousand times? Right? Yeah, I've told you before. If it

845
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: wasn't for Baker Mayfield for three straight years, ripping out

846
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: my mountain, your heart and stamping on it, I think

847
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: I would like that guy on too right now, but

848
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: I just can't do it. Too many heartbreaking losses for

849
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: my alma mater at the hands of Baker Mayfield and

850
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: the Oklahoma Sooners. But there is your power rankings for

851
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: what are we hear heading into week six? Now? Already

852
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: out of week five into week six and plenty of

853
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: moving and shaking here on this Tuesday. We'll wrap up

854
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 2: the show with a couple tweets when we return. On

855
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Speaker 2: the other side was Shuuler Matt Williamson. It's the Drive

856
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

857
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Speaker 1: Your two weeks about drive on your twenty four to

858
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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation.

859
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Speaker 5: Radio final segment.

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00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: Here on a Tuesday, couple of tweets to get too mad,

861
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: if that's all right with you, to close this thing down.

862
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: And here's a good one from Brad. You kind of

863
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 2: called this, You said you can't say nice things about

864
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett without people.

865
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you come public, get mean or number one around

866
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: here for that.

867
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Speaker 2: So Brad tweets and he did his research and like nothing,

868
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: no vitriol here, Just I think a good question. Brad

869
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: tweets you, guys in your reference to Miles Garrett playing

870
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: better than ever before, right now he is averaging point

871
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Speaker 2: eight per game, point eight sacks, one point six TFLs,

872
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: and two point six quarterback hurries.

873
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Speaker 3: TJ this season.

874
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 2: This season, okay, right now to this point per game,

875
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: point eight sacks a game, one point six TFLs, two

876
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 2: point six QB hurries. TJ is point seventy five sacks,

877
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: one point two five TFLs, but four point seventy five

878
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: hurries per game for TJ uh TJ Watt two pass deflections,

879
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: one force fumble, one fumble recovery one interception, Miles Garrett

880
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: one pass deflection. So I simply ask you which one

881
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: is having the more impactful season.

882
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 3: Ill 's get this out of the way, because we

883
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: have to do this every Browns week and you can

884
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 3: egg me on my way to the car if you want.

885
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 3: Garrett's tape is better. He's the best defensive player in

886
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: the world right now. And Parsons to me, is the

887
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 3: only one that even has a conversation and Benito is

888
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: the only one that's a conversation right now for defensive

889
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 3: player trying to fly up the and he is great

890
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: numbers like, he's the only one to me competing with

891
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: Garrett for defensive player of the Year. And DENVER'SNNA win

892
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 3: a lot more games in Cleveland, so that might help

893
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: him or who knows. That's not None of this means

894
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 3: that TJ stinks and I hate TJ.

895
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

896
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 3: Frankly, I think TJ's had the better career. I firmly

897
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,959
Speaker 3: believe that, and the numbers back it up. I think

898
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: the tape even backs it up. But who's a better

899
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 3: football player right now? I'm taking Garrett over every defensive

900
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 3: player in the league. He's ridiculous and he's two under

901
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 3: seven twenty five pounds.

902
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: He's that's great train that's just to put you over

903
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: the edge.

904
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: I mean he moves his.

905
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: Move it's like a running back, You're right, and his.

906
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 3: Lateral agility, and they do scheme him up more. But

907
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: he's a remarkable football player. I'm not trying to piss

908
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: people off. It doesn't mean I hate the Steelers or

909
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: you know, he's If you watch the tape, you'll be

910
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: blown away.

911
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: The impactful is an interesting way to phrase it, because

912
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: I've always thought that you could argue defensive player of

913
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: the Year but for that entire stretch where TJ was

914
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 2: really at his absolute best, and he's still very good now,

915
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: but I think he's kind of a little bit on

916
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: the other side of his prime.

917
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: He's a passing rusher. Yes, that's why I wanted to

918
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: bring up with wat too. No one runs at him

919
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 3: and he forces fumbles at a ridiculous rate. I mean

920
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: he's still the best in league.

921
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I mean he's one of like six guys

922
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 2: in league history now that has one hundred sacks and

923
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: eight interceptions, right.

924
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: Right right, SoJ to me, we live numbers now are

925
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: getting crazy.

926
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: TJ, to me, has always defined impact like there's some

927
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: like some Sidney Crosby element there where he might not

928
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: score as many goals as Ovechkin and Connor McDavid.

929
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 3: It changes the game, but nobody.

930
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: Changes the game.

931
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, ye over over the.

932
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: Entire course like he does. It's hard. It's hard for

933
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: me to like, I think you're right in the sense

934
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: that that that Miles is is the best defensive player

935
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 2: in the world right now, full stop. But I think

936
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: it's a testament to TJ that he still has to

937
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: two or three impact for a defensive player in this league.

938
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: And I'll be the first to say watt impact is

939
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 3: probably greater than his numbers. Yes, I mean if they

940
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 3: run left every time, that's impact.

941
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: And I tell you what that uh, that whole four

942
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: point seventy five hurries per game compared to two point

943
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: six for Miles. I wonder how do people at Pro

944
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: Football Focus feel about that one? Sorry, I had to

945
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: get my had to get my y inser in there

946
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: for for five seconds.

947
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: Now. This has been true a lot in Watt's career,

948
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: but it's really true in Garrett's career too. They never

949
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: have the lead. Having the lead is really helpful to

950
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 3: get pass rush pressure and sacks.

951
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: You know, your Reggie White pin in his ears back

952
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: when Brett Farve had the Packers, you know, up ten

953
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: points in the fourth.

954
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: Course goes a long way, and there's not a lot.

955
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: I mean, Watt doesn't have a lot of it over

956
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 3: his career, but compared to Garrett, it's crazy. So here's

957
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 3: what I think. I may even mentioned this yesterday, but

958
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: since their defensive coordinator took over in twenty twenty three,

959
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: so it's been twenty twenty three, twenty four, and now

960
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: into twenty five, Schwartz's last thing, Jim Schwartz, Sorry, And

961
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: Garrett's obviously been a lot to do with this. Since

962
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 3: Schwartz has been their defensive coordinator, they're number one in

963
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: defensive EPA, they're thirty second in offensive EPA. Wow, Like

964
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: I forget, Oh, I just I shared with Tom Offerman

965
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: because we're gonna mention on a show that we're doing later,

966
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 3: and he's like, wouldn't you love just to have a

967
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 3: bunch of beers with Garrett and Schwartz and see what

968
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 3: they really think of their situation? You know, like we're

969
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: doing our job. I'll do my job. I'll do you

970
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: must be the other guy?

971
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: You must be the other guy? Swing State Samson tweets

972
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: would you consider Jalen Daniels out of Kansas as a

973
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: quarterback option for the Black and Gold. We'll talk a

974
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: little bit more around campus tomorrow. Love his athleticism, love

975
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: the amount of games that he started in his collegiate career.

976
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: But he is not very accurate as a passer. And

977
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: I know that that.

978
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 3: At first I've heard that name, which isn't a good sign.

979
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: That is not as much of a hindrance of a

980
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: trope as it used to be. Right, Like, don't draft

981
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: tight ends in the first round in fantasy football. Quarterbacks

982
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 2: aren't going to get any more accurate from college to pro.

983
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: It's one of those things that has changed. But I

984
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: don't know if I like him as a first round guy.

985
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: He's got a lot there to like and work with,

986
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: but I don't know if I would like him as

987
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: a first round kind of savior of the franchise type guy.

988
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: But we will go around campus and talk more about

989
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: those quarterbacks tomorrow.

990
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: We have some good matchups this weekend, right, some great matchups.

991
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 2: Indiana going out to Oregon three third Saturday. That's the

992
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: college game day game, and that.

993
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:03,959
Speaker 3: Is they could be the first two off the board.

994
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 2: I think the two, with all respect of Leonora's sells.

995
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: It's different because he's been coming back from that concussion

996
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: and still trying to get right. But those two right

997
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: now are the best most intriguing quarterback prospects playing in

998
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: college and they're playing against each other on Saturday, baby,

999
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: So we'll talk more about that tomorrow. Last one for you, Matt,

1000
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: real quick. We got like sixty seconds here. Steel Curtin

1001
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: tweets and says any concern with Joey Porter Junior's durability

1002
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: since he has not played at all this season.

1003
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 3: I always avoid these questions, and I preface this by saying.

1004
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: We're not medical doctors.

1005
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 3: You have as good an idea as me the guy asking.

1006
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't go to med school. I see

1007
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 3: no reason to think that he's more quote injury prone

1008
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: than the next guy. No one in the organization's told

1009
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: me that it's not like it's a recurring soft tissue,

1010
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: same injury over and over and over. I think he's

1011
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 3: had a little bit of bad luck, but he hasn't

1012
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 3: missed that much time.

1013
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, I'd say the same thing about a herbig. Yeah.

1014
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's hard to stay healthy and sleep. I don't know,

1015
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: I have an injury prone is not something I throw

1016
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 3: around same here, Yeah, and I don't know if I

1017
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: believe it much.

1018
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: It's also why too, why I like to give credit

1019
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: to guys like Najie Harris who their durability is clearly

1020
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: a strength.

1021
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, guys go out there every week, you know. Right.

1022
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: Of course, Unfortunately for Najy that went away for him

1023
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: as soon as he left Western Pennsylvania.

1024
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 3: Like even watching the Sunday Night or like Josh Allen's

1025
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 3: never miss a game like that guy's taking a beating, right.

1026
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: Can't our style man?

1027
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: Right?

1028
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point. Great point, Matt, good stuff today.

1029
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: Enjoyed today's show. Thanks to Chris Hallick for joining us

1030
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 2: on the program here today. Tomorrow Best of the West

1031
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: around campus. Uh will start to look ahead to the

1032
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns a little bit.

1033
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1034
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,479
Speaker 2: Also catch up with our buddy Chris Adanski as well too.

1035
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 3: Tuesdays when most of Matt's stat work happens. Oh yeah,

1036
00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: I'll send you the.

1037
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: Rough draft and we will do some of that MVP offense. Yeah,

1038
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 2: I want to take a Play of the Year conversation tomorrow.

1039
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: Big thanks to Tyler V mister TV, our YouTube producer,

1040
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: for making us look pretty on the video side of

1041
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: things as well for Matt, I'm wes. Take care of everybody.

1042
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you tomorrow. You know where to find

1043
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: us as always, It's on your twenty four to seven

1044
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: home of the Black and Gold. It's Steelers Nation Radio

1045
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.