1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: And we welcome you in to the first Monday in April, 2 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: and we are just seventeen days away from the two 3 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: thousand and twenty NFL Draft. I'm Jason Gibbs alongside Andrew 4 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Gribble and Nathan Z Girv. This is the best podcast available, 5 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: Episode four, Rocking and roll in our way to the 6 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: NFL Draft, which is coming up in just a few 7 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: weeks from right now. And guys, it is official per 8 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: the NFL Commissioner. We're all working from home and playing 9 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: a form of fantasy football. When it comes down to 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: the two thousand and twenty NFL Draft, all be at 11 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: home making our picks or at least watching them happen. 12 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: From Andrew Berry and Company. Gribbs, your thoughts on what 13 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: we all knew was coming and the biggest maybe secret 14 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: that we knew wasn't a secret. This is every team's 15 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: I T department's time to shine. I mean, they've got 16 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: to set up these guys too to handle the most 17 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: some very important picks from from in their own houses, 18 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: and I think it's just it's crazy to digest. I 19 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: do think that the fact that they've been doing this 20 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: now for a few weeks will help them out, and 21 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: I think that they've probably been thinking that this was 22 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: a possibility for at least the last couple of weeks. 23 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: So I imagine a plan is in place. But again, 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: we're in uncharted times, and this is gonna be a 25 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: truly unique experience. I mean, when these war rooms are huge, 26 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: and you've got a lot of people in those rooms 27 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: who feel a very important purpose. We've we've been inside 28 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: that war room. There's information everywhere. Uh, and now it's 29 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: just gonna be so different. You're so reliant on the 30 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: technology that we're using right now. Uh, and it's just 31 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: gonna be I've never been more excited about a draft, 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: just simply from how they're gonna broadcast, at how these 33 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: picks are gonna be made, how long it's gonna take, 34 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: because I think the clock could be an issue. I'm excited, 35 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: but I imagine none of the general managers feel the 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: same way I do. Right now, it's gonna be interesting. 37 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: I mean, now when you go into your fantasy football draft, 38 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: they can advertise it as a draft just like a 39 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: real NFL GM, because that's what they did in this 40 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: year's draft. So I think on one level, it's cool. 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: I wonder is it gonna be. Will they enter a 42 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: draft room like you do in fantasy football where all 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: the prospects are listed and you click you have adam 44 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: to your queue. Is that how you're gonna set your 45 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: draft board in the draft room itself? Are you gonna 46 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: have to draft the player that way? Or you texting somebody? 47 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: Are you calling somebody? How do they make the picks? 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of makes sense to have NFL 49 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: dot com hosted and host a draft room and everyone 50 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: you're on the clock, you make your pick, you'll know 51 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: who's been taking all that. Obviously you'll have that anyway. 52 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: But I think from the technology standpoint, it's not gonna 53 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: be a big deal. I know there are a lot 54 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: of people in the war room at you know when 55 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: it's going on, but there's really there are the key 56 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: decision decision makers. They will not change, They will still 57 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: be in contact. I'm fascinated to see how it plays out. 58 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: I really am. I'm fascinated to see if there's if 59 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: there really is a draft room where they have to 60 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: go in and enter it. How you know, how does 61 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: that work in the In the past, you call the 62 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: guy who was at the phone and then he'd write 63 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: it on a card and they turned the card in, 64 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: which seems archaic enough to begin with, so you wonder 65 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: how it's actually what the logistics of it are. But look, 66 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell has stressed all along it had to be 67 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: an equal playing field. And I think it's pretty clear 68 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: given what's going on in various parts of our country 69 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: that there were certain teams in certain states that there's 70 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: no way they were gonna be allowing their facility. So 71 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: it was thirty two in the facility. We can all 72 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: be in the facility, but if thirty one could be 73 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: it and one couldn't, we're not. And everybody's at home, 74 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: and that's clearly the case. Everybody's gonna be at home. 75 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: Here's how how equal of a playing field is it 76 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: gonna be when someone's internet is better than someone else's internet, 77 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: Like that's that that's a that's a real issue that 78 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to deal with. And I think, like, uh, well, 79 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: we always we've scoffed at the idea of landlines being 80 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: important during these times, but that's are they gonna set 81 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: up the bat phone and all these guys houses. I'm 82 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: more curious on the setup that Andrew Berry is gonna 83 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: have at this disposal. I feel like it's gonna be 84 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: something out of like a futuristic movie, with the amount 85 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: of equipment they're gonna have to set up in his 86 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: home office. I think it's gonna be fascinating because I 87 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: think that's the issue that is gonna be tough, is 88 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: how how do you wheel and deal when the time 89 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: is crunching at you and you've got your computer in 90 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: front of you and you've got your dealing with faces 91 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: on your computer and texting. I mean, I think Andrew 92 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: Berry has the right disposition for this. I think he's 93 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: a young, tech savvy guy. I think that can only help. 94 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: And I'm I just wish I hope Building the Browns 95 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: is behind the scenes and able to capture some of 96 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: this stuff first because I'm just I want to be 97 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: a fly on the wall for for what's going on here. 98 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: Can they just think they're gonna be fascinating? Can can 99 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: they stick to the ten minute limit? I mean, with 100 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: technology being what it is, like Grimville said, if you 101 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: get in a situation where your WiFi sucks or your 102 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: internet is not great, okay, possibilities a girl where some 103 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: of these guys are right now, it's twenty Okay, these 104 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: guys are gonna have hardlined internet. They're gonna have hard 105 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: wired internet all over the place. They've got you've gotten well, 106 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying, the trucks would be at your house, and 107 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: trucks would make sure you had everything that you need 108 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: to do this. And and every GM has got the 109 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: other GM cell phones. They're gonna be able, like you 110 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: can put in if you don't have good sell reception 111 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: your house, you can put a mini cell tower into 112 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: your house. Like all of this stuff can be done. 113 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: There's enough lead time for it. I'm not that part 114 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: of it. I'm not. I'm not as worried. But I 115 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: think all the teams will be good. I think the 116 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: internet is all gonna be good. I think it's gonna 117 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: be fine. I'm just fascinated by how it's gonna go 118 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: because you know, and and by the way, if this 119 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: is all done online, if it truly is an online draft, 120 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: they better make sure the security on that is good, 121 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: that nobody's hacking in, that nobody's revealing somebody's stramp board, 122 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: that nobody takes over, somebody's on the clock, and all 123 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: of a sudden the guy comes in and like selects 124 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: a kicker in the second round like a fantasy draft, 125 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: and everybody's own nuts. I mean, there's the logistics of it. 126 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: I I find that part to be fasting. I feel 127 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: very good, very good that they are going to make 128 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: sure from a technology standpoint, with a multiple weekly time 129 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: that everybody is is good to go. Everybody's going to go. 130 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: Should Goodell have to announce the picks from his own 131 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: living room? Yes, of course he should be staying at 132 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: home to set the clone. Of course he should. I 133 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to there's this talk Peter Kid. 134 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: I don't know where he's going to be. But a 135 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: lot of people say he should be at home, because 136 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: that's what everybody says. But will he be at home? 137 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: That's gonna be the question. Where is he going to 138 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: announce the picks from? He should be at home, and 139 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: then the broadcast should be like if they can get 140 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: the obviously they've got the time to test it out. 141 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: But should be everybody in their own little spots, you know, 142 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: everybody doing their own little thing. Uh, whether it's an 143 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: ESPN NFL network collaboration or not just having you can't 144 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: have a studio show. I mean, I think that would 145 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: be that doesn't make sense given the times, but maybe 146 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: you will. Maybe you will, I don't know. I am 147 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: so I'm more fascinated on how they're gonna fill airtime 148 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: on days two and three because there are so many 149 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: of those pre draft packages that that probably have not 150 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: been able to get done because of this, all the 151 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: b roll and all the footage that they get from 152 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: Pro Days and everything like that. Then you think about 153 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: day three when they have those special announcements for every team, 154 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: for the announcements at all, I mean, all of that 155 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: is out, and you're you're gonna have a hard time 156 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: doing those kind of studio debates that go on for 157 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: ten plus minutes. With the set up, I mean, this 158 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: is going to be a true feat in TV broadcasting 159 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: to to pull this off, and they haven't have they 160 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: set themselves a hard schedule on how this is gonna last, 161 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: because I'm curious if they're going to change any of 162 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: the normal times on everything that goes on with this. Yeah, 163 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: I think it's something that people that make a lot 164 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: more money than the three of us are working night 165 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: and day seven right now trying to piece to do 166 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: I mean I did. We We had phone calls today 167 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: about what we're doing with our draft coverage and how 168 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: the heck we're going to do it and logistically, how 169 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: many guys can we put on the air at one time? 170 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: Who can we get Are we gonna be able to 171 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: get players after we draft players? Can we get them 172 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: to at least call in? Like the number of logistics 173 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: and the little things just from a radio standpoint, much 174 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: less what the nation in the world is watching and 175 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: what could end up being one of the biggest most 176 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: watched sporting events in the history of sports, mind you. Yeah, ever, 177 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: for sure. I mean it's gonna be. The ratings are 178 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: gonna be absolutely bonkers. It's the one it's the one 179 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: new sports thing that's gonna be out there that we 180 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: haven't been seen before. What's gonna happen in this draft? 181 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: It is actual new sports content. Yeah, it's gonna be. 182 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna be completely obsessed over, I think in our country, 183 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: and so it's I think from that standpoint, it is 184 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: gonna be fun. And if there are some you know, 185 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: technological snaffoos here and there, that's gonna be interesting. I mean, 186 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who watch golf and 187 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: when a golfer, a pro golfer actually shanks one or 188 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: hits the groundball that you love. Oh, they're just like us. 189 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: And now it's gonna be the NFL gms are are 190 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: They're just like us. They're at home doing their fantasy 191 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: and the clocks and go oh man, I thought I 192 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: was saying, what, God, what are we doing? Three too? 193 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: I probably need to press the button, but I don't know. 194 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: I think that part of it's gonna be great. They 195 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: need to have cameras on all these gm s because that, 196 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: to me, is gonna be the most fascinating part of 197 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: all of this. Well, and Nathan, you mentioned, I mean, 198 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: the the amount of attention this is gonna get is 199 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: through the roof. And I mean I don't follow many 200 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: people like you on Twitter Nathan that talk about wrestling 201 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: a lot, But this past weekend my Twitter timeline was 202 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: it was as if like I only followed w w 203 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: E fans with WrestleMania. I mean, that was a new 204 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: sports event that was going on and everyone was talking 205 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: about it because for people, I think want some bri 206 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean, this has been a tough month for the world, 207 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: and this has been a brutal month just in general 208 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: with the coronavirus. And I think that the this this 209 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: this could be an escape for people to to to 210 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: watch and and get excited about their football team. And 211 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: and the that all the draft build up that people 212 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: have missed is going to kind of culminate on on 213 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: this weekend. Yeah, and you're right, it's gonna be it's 214 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a release. And yeah, WrestleMania was in the 215 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: most bizarre environment ever for wrestling. I mean, wrestling is 216 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: a very crowd dependent, participatory form of entertainment and you 217 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: didn't have that, and yet they put on something that 218 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: was new and people wanted to see it. In kudos 219 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: to them. Nothing got leaked ahead of time. And while 220 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't what WrestleMania has ever been before, it was 221 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: still entertaining. And you're right, people were going nuts over it. 222 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: Just it was something new to watch, something where you 223 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: didn't know the outcome and and you could treat it 224 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: as as such and and that. Yeah, and they did 225 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: a good job with it. All Right. You can have 226 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: four people doing the Draft night broadcast and it sounds 227 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: like we're headed towards an NFL network ESPN joint broadcast. 228 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: Four people who are your four people that you want 229 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: to see on the on even if they're in four 230 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: satellite locations, who would they be? So the girl, I'll 231 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: start with you, all right, I'll go so you gotta 232 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: go to and two, or you can go three and 233 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: one if you want, I'm gonna go. I'll go to 234 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: and too. I'll go Eisen and Daniel Jeremiah, and then 235 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: i'll go Mel. I'd probably go Todd mcshaite then, because 236 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: you got a host already in Nie, and you only 237 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: need to host two analysts. But Mel's gotta be there 238 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: because it's Mel Kiper and he's got to be at 239 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: the draft. And then the next Daniel Jeremiah and Tod 240 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: McShee probably the next to you know, most well regarded analysts. 241 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: I had your same exact four. But I'm gonna throw 242 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: a curveball in here. I need to see Chris Berman 243 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: in this kind of element, bring him out from retirement. 244 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: I need to see how he's gonna handle I want 245 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: to see the background at his home. If possible, I 246 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: want him working from home. I I think that would 247 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: make person electric coverage. But I need Kiper mcshade because 248 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: their chemistry is great. I think Eisen is the best host, 249 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: and Jeremiah's I think, become the most knowledgeable guy on 250 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: the on the on the draft that's going right now? Yea, 251 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: all right, that's what's the latest around the National Football 252 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: League as it pertains to the NFL Draft. Onto our 253 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: top five at every position we continue this week. We've 254 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: got three positions to go through a gentleman. We have 255 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: the wide receiver, the tight end, and the linebacker positions. 256 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: So our overall top five. What I asked from the 257 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: two gentlemen is to rank their top five. I ranked 258 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: my top five, and then we did a point system 259 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: to determine number one to three, four and five. Starting 260 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: off at number five. Justin Jefferson from l s HU 261 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: a pretty good football player, and tied with him for 262 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: that spot, So I guess you can say it's fourth. 263 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: That's right. I give out free financial advice and I 264 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: don't know how to count, so in a tie for fourth, 265 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: it was Justin Jefferson and Tie Higgins from Clemson Gribbs, 266 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: both guys who had really really good football careers. Jefferson 267 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: really exploded though here in this past season. Yeah, he he. 268 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: He was great in the biggest games of the season, 269 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: and that that always scores points in my book. I 270 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: actually had Higgins, though higher, ranked in my personal ballot 271 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: because I I think he brings something unique to the 272 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: table in this group, and that's the size. I mean, 273 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: this is the six ft four guy who's getting compared 274 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: to a J. Green. I don't think he got as 275 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: much attention somehow, even though he played at Clemson. I 276 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: think he is just gonna be I like his unique 277 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: skill set in this group, which is why I had 278 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: him ranked a little higher. I'd like to see. I 279 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: think Jefferson is gonna be a great pro. I do 280 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: worry it. Maybe he's a little bit of a by 281 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: product of the best offense in college football. So that's 282 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: the only reason why I had Higgins higher. But they're 283 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: both really good. Zigura, you didn't have Higgins even in 284 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: your top five. Instead, you had Denzel Mims from Baylor 285 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: making a little noise coming. You know. I just wanted 286 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: to switch it up a little bit and give somebody 287 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,119 Speaker 1: else a little love. I figured, in a composite situation, 288 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: we would end up there with with Tee Higgins and 289 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb and Justin Jefferson in the two Alabama's Judy 290 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: and Rugs, which is what it ended up being. But again, 291 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: just another prospect that a lot of people like. He's 292 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: two grips this point when you talk about the different 293 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: skill set, He's six three two oh seven, a bigger guy, 294 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: can make big plays and somebody that seems to be 295 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: kind of in that first round conversation. Is he a 296 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: top five guy? I don't know, but he was just 297 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: another guy I wanted to talk about and put on 298 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: the radar going forward for you know, this discussion and everybody. 299 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: Because it's such a deep receiver class, there are people 300 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: you know that it would have uh, Brandon Aiyuk if 301 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: I said his name right, and if I didn't, I 302 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: apologize from Arizona State as a first round pick. There 303 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: are so many receivers, They're like ten of them that 304 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: people really think could be legit first rounders in this draft. 305 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: So I just want to bring attention to another one 306 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: of them, and I Denzel Mims as a guy that 307 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: I like. I like the size, the speed, that whole 308 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: combination is physical. His physicality stands out. I wonder, I 309 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: wonder if the depth of this receiver class is going 310 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: to hurt the draft status of these like fourth and 311 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: fifth wide receivers because people think they can get someone 312 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: good at a better value later in the draft. I 313 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: don't know if that that that could. I wonder if 314 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: that works against some of these guys that maybe aren't 315 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: the top one, two or three in this group. I 316 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: don't know, like you think, kJ, So the guys that 317 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: are kind of in that that group that you're talking about, 318 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: So Denzel Mims who I mentioned, Lavisca Chnault Junior from Colorado, 319 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: kJ Handler from Penn State, Jalen Reagor from TCU, Michael 320 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: Pittman Jr. From USC, Brandon I from Arizona State, Chase 321 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: Claypool from Owner Dame. Like those guys. That was what 322 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: eight names that I just listened off that aren't in 323 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: our top five that go in first rounds of various 324 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: mock drafts, and and I think that people I don't 325 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: know if it's gonna hurt them so much, but I 326 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: wonder if there'll be a gap after it makes the 327 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: first third team go over days, you know, first and 328 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: second round, and then maybe you wait because you're like, 329 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna get a guy who in 330 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth round that would be a second 331 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: rounder in most drafts, So why don't just wait and 332 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: wait and wait and then I'll pounce on somebody because 333 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: there are so six point oh is the cut off 334 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: you have to go into well into zerline second page 335 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: to get there. I mean we're talking thirty six guys 336 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: that he thinks have the potential to start as rookies 337 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: or by their second season in this draft at wide receiver. 338 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: That's nuts, all right? Top three at number three Henry 339 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: Ruggs from Alabama. Uh Zigura, I know that you had 340 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: flip flop your number two and number three Gribbs. You 341 00:16:54,360 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: had Rugs at number three. Gribbs. What differentiates Jerry Judy 342 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: from Henry Ruggs and why is Ruggs just a little 343 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: bit below? I think that Jerry Judy is is maybe 344 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: the more established traditional safer pick at that wide receiver 345 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: position that's gonna fill him up every week. Ruggs is 346 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: your big play, crazy athletic skill set, speed, punt returner, 347 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: insane upside. But also the reason why I had a 348 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: number three is when he gets when you get the 349 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: cops with some of these guys who have run these 350 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: fast forties, not a lot of production at that wide 351 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: receiver position from these super speedy, fast guys. I have 352 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: seen Henry Ruggs produced at very high level. I think 353 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a very good pro. But if I'm 354 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: taking one guy to be a guy that fills it 355 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: up seven catches a week hundred yards, I've seen Jerry 356 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: Judy do that. And Jerry Judy is also no matter 357 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: what he ran at the forty, I'm gonna go with 358 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: the whole game speed. When I watch him, he gets 359 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: the ball and all of a sudden, he's the fastest 360 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: guy in the field. He needs someone chasing him. And 361 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: I think that's the the guy that I just watched, 362 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: and I know I was like, this guy's I've been 363 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: thinking for two years he's gonna be the best wide 364 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: receiver in whatever Dramtasizing Jerry Judy's ability to run routes 365 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: and separate and do what he's he's kind of like 366 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown without Antonio Brown issues at least that we 367 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: know of at this point. No, and there don't seem 368 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: to be any out on the horizon that's That type 369 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: of receiver always can win, That type of receiver can 370 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: always be productive in any scheme, in any system. Ruggs 371 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: is an incredible athlete, explosive. I think if you're Henry 372 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: Ruggs fan, you're when you draft him, what you're saying is, 373 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get maybe even a more overall 374 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: physically imposing athletic DeShawn Jackson, because that's Deshon Jackson for 375 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: his heyday was an absolute game change in the NFL, 376 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: and Rugs can be then. I mean, just seeing those 377 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: clips from on the basketball court post Riz and everybody 378 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: was absurd. So you know, he's an insane athlete, incredibly fast. 379 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: UM speed doesn't always translate. You've got to be able 380 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: to run routes, You've gotta be able to get open, 381 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: and he's shown the ability to do that. Judy just 382 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 1: is everything that a successful NFL wide receiver needs to be, period, 383 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: and that's why he's number one. Ruggs. I just find 384 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: him to be fascinating because he's such an athletic Ceedee Lamp. 385 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: These guys are all Ceedee Lamb Justin Deterrison, te Hagen's Rugs, Judy, 386 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: all these guys could be the number one receiver in 387 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: a lot of drafts. They just all happened to be 388 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: in the same draft this year, which is bunkers. Yeah, 389 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: the wide receiver classes like the left tackle class. I 390 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: mean in other years where this was weaker. If it 391 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: were weaker, any one of these five guys could have 392 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: been a number one receiver in any other class. Yeah, yeah, no, 393 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you on that. What separates not 394 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: not what separates Gribbs. But where did Ceedee Lamb come 395 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: out of? I mean he's literally no, I mean he 396 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: came out of nowhere. Stop as a girl, you get 397 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: it together. He came out of nowhere. I mean did 398 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: anybody see him coming At the start of the season. 399 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: He was a good wide receiver, was a wide receiver 400 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: at that point. The year before that, he was all 401 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: it was. As a sophomore, he had one thousand one 402 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: or in fifty eight yards and eleven touchdowns. I mean 403 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: that's not chabby. But he's played with great court becuse, 404 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: he's played with Baker, He's played with Kyler Murray and 405 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: then Jalen Hurts, and he's been in that super productive offense. Um. 406 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: I loved his his comp Zeroline. Did you see the 407 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: airlines com for him? Ocho sinko, M that's a fun one. 408 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: You get all the Shenanigans on the side with it 409 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: as well. No, it doesn't see my good his name. 410 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: His real name is Sedarian, which I also think is 411 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: a huge positive. All Right, So if there's a negative 412 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: to Ceedee Lamb's game, Ribs, what is it? I don't 413 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: know if I have a negative to his game. I'm 414 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm more impressed with a guy like Judy 415 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: that can fill it up in Alabama with so many 416 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: other talented guys around him in an offense that doesn't 417 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: necessarily get guys five feet open, like in the way 418 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: that Oklahoma's can. And that's just I mean, I think 419 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: they're both really, really good. I'm just biased, and I've 420 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: watched a lot more Jerry Judy, and I've just been 421 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: convinced since that guy was a freshman that he was 422 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: gonna be some special. According to the to the book 423 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: on Ceedee Lambs, some of the issues are the scheme 424 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: is so good, uh, that he didn't face a lot 425 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: of what you would call NFL style press man when 426 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: he did, he struggled a little bit with some of 427 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: his releases, and so he's gonna need to refine his 428 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: releases a little bit of his route running techniques, and 429 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: those are things that you don't have to say about 430 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy, which is why Jerry Judy is number one. 431 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: But Ceedee Lamb might have a higher ceiling per se 432 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: if he's able to put together all of his gifts 433 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: and become the technician that Jerry Judy is. But you 434 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: just don't find guys like Jerry Judy coming out of 435 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: college that ready, where you know, whatever scheme you run, 436 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: he's scheme. He can fit into any scheme because he 437 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: knows how to get open. And when you can create 438 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: separation as a receiver, that's the number one trait you're 439 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: looking for. Can these guys get open? Now, they gotta 440 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: be able to catch it when they do. But if 441 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: they can get open, they're gonna be effective. Yeah, and 442 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: the girl, I think your point is well taken that 443 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: any one of these guys could be the first receiver 444 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: off the board. I really think that Ceedee Lamb could 445 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: be the first receiver off the board of the Raiders. 446 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: I definitely think that. You know Davis and company there, 447 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: they like the flash, and there's a lot of flash. 448 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: There was c D Lamb, So number one, it was 449 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy, Number two, Cdee Lamb three, Henry Rugs, and 450 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: a tie for fourth with Tee Higgins and Justin Jefferson Gribbs. 451 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: If you had to rank the wide receiver, we're on 452 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: the list of needs, does the wide receiver position fit 453 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns? I would put it somewhere in 454 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: the middle. I put I would put everything on the 455 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball ahead wide receiver at this moment, 456 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: even even maybe defensive tackle, even though you've already added 457 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: Andrew Billings and have a couple of good guys there. 458 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: I just think there are other there, there are other 459 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: areas that you need to hit. I would I would 460 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: put left tackle ahead of it obviously, uh and I'd 461 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: maybe even put uh, I maybe even put tight end 462 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: ahead of it in this draft class in particular, because 463 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: you probably need a little bit more depth there. But 464 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: I do think it's somewhere where you might just have 465 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: to take a player though, in the third or fourth round, 466 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: because someone just might stand out as being so much 467 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: by far the best player on the board that you're 468 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: gonna have to go grab him, just because there's so 469 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: many good players in this class. Yeah, I think that's 470 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: a good point. It's not a huge need. I mean, 471 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: this is a two wide receiver offense. You've got Odell 472 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: and you've got Jarvis. Uh. The question is, you know, 473 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,239 Speaker 1: can ta Wan Taylor from a third round pick, can 474 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: he step up in this offensive system which would play 475 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: very well to a speed and going Taylor Gabriel was 476 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: able to do in the Kyle Shanahan system in years past. 477 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: So you know it's you want to see somebody because 478 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: of the uncertainty arounding surrounding the injuries of Jarvis and 479 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: O'Dell for the offseason if there is one, So the 480 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: Baker has somebody else out there, and I think you 481 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: want to draft somebody if you saw somebody in the 482 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: third or fourth round that you felt could become a 483 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: real starter, like you're getting a second round talent there, 484 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: and then you bring him in because you still you 485 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: have to have succession planning at all of your positions, 486 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: and you need to think about it wide receiver, given 487 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: how much money is being spent there and knowing that 488 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to spend a lot of money on 489 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: quarterback in Miles Garrett and Denzel Ward Baker obviously being 490 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: that quarterback in the next few years, that you might 491 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: want to have a receiver ascending on a rookie contract 492 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,239 Speaker 1: that's coming into a starting job two years from now, 493 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: and so that's something you have to think about, I 494 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: think going in. But in an immediate need, I give 495 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: me a third tight end right now over receiver, Like 496 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: if I have to go with Taywan Taylor and Damien 497 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: Ratley and Cadarol Hodge uh and DJ Montgomery, fine, I'll 498 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: take my chances with that. But right now, behind our 499 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: top two tight ends Austin Uper and David Joco, you 500 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: Stephen Carlson, who we all like, an undrafted free agent 501 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: out of Princeton who showed flash last year, and then 502 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: Farrell Brown, who hasn't really been able to stay healthy. 503 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: And this is an offense where you need two tight 504 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: ends at all times. So I think getting a young 505 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: third tight end who's maybe even a little bit more 506 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: inclined as a blocker would not be a bad idea 507 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: at all in this draft. All right, that's a look 508 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: at the wide receivers and our top five at that position. 509 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: We move on to tight ends and a position that 510 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: both of you I think would agree, Uh, The need 511 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: a little bit more important at tight end for the 512 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: Browns than a wide receiver. And I'll start off at 513 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: number five. You guys both going with a tight end 514 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: out to Purdue in Bryson Hopkins Gribbs. What made you 515 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: go Hopkins out of Purdue, a guy that not many 516 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: people talked about is the top five? Yeah, I just 517 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: think he's a guy that was a solid, uh tight 518 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: end And honestly, I'll be I'll be honest, this isn't 519 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: a great tight end class after about the first four 520 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: or five guys, and I'm I'm picking this guy clearly 521 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: on on upside and hope that he can be a 522 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: solid tight end in the NFL. I' so I like 523 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: what he brings in that regard. Would I take him 524 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: in the first three rounds? Probably not, But I think 525 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: that there's just a lot of room to grow with 526 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: what he's been able to do, and he's he put 527 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: up big numbers in the Big ten, was a Big 528 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: ten tight at end of the year. So just a 529 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: solid tight end that I'd be okay with getting early 530 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: on Day three. Then his dad was the Pro Bowl 531 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: offensive lineman for the Tennessee Titans, Brad Hopkins, who I actually, 532 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: believe it or not met at the combine. This year. 533 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: So that's why I certainly you did as well. You 534 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: were there give we were with Bratt Hopkins, So yeah, 535 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: you want to see this kid succeed. You would imagine 536 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: that if his dad was a Pro Bowl offensive lineman, 537 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: that even though maybe in college he was more of 538 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: a slot tight end, that he would have it in 539 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: his jeans to become a good blocker, uh down the road, 540 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: and and certainly would have something kind of proclivity to 541 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: be a good blocker. So yeah, this is somebody that 542 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: could be a target for the Browns maybe later on 543 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: in the draft. All right, the next two they're the 544 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: Bryant Boys. Harrison Bryant from Florida Atlantic, Hunter Bryant from 545 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: the University of Washington. You guys both had him flip 546 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: flop there, three and four, three and four. Uh, not 547 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: a whole lot of difference, I would say between either 548 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: two guys. But is there anything that stood out when 549 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: you guys were putting this stuff together? Gribbs will start 550 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: with you. Well, you know, I'll defer to lands aer Line, 551 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: who knows way more about these guys than I do. 552 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: And he threw out the big George Kittle comparison to 553 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: Harrison Bryants. So that's enough to sell me. And and honestly, 554 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: the reason I had Hunter Bryant ahead of Hopkins is 555 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: that I want I want these tight ends to be 556 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: good at both blocking and catching. But if I'm getting 557 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: the comparison that Hunter Bryan is the Jordan Reed, I'll 558 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: take the upside on there, knowing that maybe he's not 559 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: gonna block all that great, but he be an elite 560 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: pass catcher out of that position, whereas I thought Hopkins 561 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: was maybe a little bit of uh so so at 562 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: both where I like the upside of Hunter Bryan as 563 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: a pass custer there. But you compare a guy to 564 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: George Kiddle, to me, uh that'll catch my eye and 565 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: get me, get me to put him at number three 566 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: on this kind of list. Yeah, you're talking about Hunter Bryant. 567 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: It was a guy are sixteen in point four yards 568 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: per catch in college. So and he's considered basically just 569 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: a pure receiver to GRIBs this point. That's what he's 570 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: good at, a big slot receiver. But when you get 571 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: that Kittle comparison and just the tenaciousness and willingness as 572 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: a blocker, Harrison Bryan would be a guy that if 573 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: the Browns need another tight end. Would be a great 574 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: fit here because you need that type of a player 575 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: who can be nasty as a blocker but also go 576 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: out and catch the football, and that's something that he 577 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,239 Speaker 1: does very very well, winning the John Mackey Award as 578 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: the nation's top tight end last year. All Right, when 579 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: you talk about tight ends that are kind of making 580 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: that jump and have really stood out here since the 581 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: season ended, and really maybe should have stood out a 582 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: little bit before of that, Adam Troutman out of the 583 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: Dayton right on the Road, really played some good football 584 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: down the stretch, had a very good college career, and 585 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: has made the most of his opportunities since the season 586 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: ended and has shown enough that a lot of people 587 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: think that he is going to be one of the 588 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: top tight ends off the board. The question is, Grips. 589 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: You mentioned it, with this tight end class being not 590 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: so deep, is he a Day two guy or is 591 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: he falling to Day three. I think he'll be a 592 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: Day two guy, and he really interested me with the Browns. 593 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't probably use a second round pick 594 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 1: on him, but third round I'm very intrigued. Uh, And 595 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: it's mostly you know, I was obviously interested in when 596 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: I saw they went to Dayton, because you don't see 597 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: any football players from Dayton. They haven't had a player 598 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: drafted since the seventies. But when you hear him talk, 599 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: the guy loves blocking, and I think that's what this 600 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: team needs more from the tight end position. I think 601 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: he's obviously a talented pass catcher, dominated inferior inferior competition 602 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: at Dayton playing in one double A. But uh, he's 603 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: to me, is is there? There's just a lot to 604 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: work with, a lot of upset and would be a 605 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: great addition as a third round pick with one of 606 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: those two selections. The only trepidation I have is the 607 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: last time there was a big tight end from a 608 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: small school was Adam Shehen with the pairs and hasn't 609 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: done much in the NFL so far. No, that's true. 610 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: This guy, look, he would come in right there and 611 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: immediately fill a need for the Browns that having that 612 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: a third tight end who can be more of a 613 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: blocker has got the big size, is a big man 614 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: strong needs to refine his technique, but because he wasn't 615 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: playing against the competition that would require such great technique, 616 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: he was able to dominate. But again I think a 617 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: very intriguing guy for the Browns going forward, all right, 618 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: and a number one. It was a unanimous decision commit 619 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: the tight end from Neutre Dame. A pretty impressive guy, 620 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: a guy that could be a first round pick. But 621 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if any of these, say 622 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: first round day one have to have unlike last year 623 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: when you had two tight ends from the University of 624 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: Iowa going No, I'd agree with that. But a great 625 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: size six six to sixty can be an inline blocker 626 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: that obviously got as was fired up about it. You 627 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: wanted to break that down his ta Yes, right, a 628 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: little chaw Jack Russell coming out there. Um, big guy, 629 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: good blocker, good route runner, solid overall prospect, cast size 630 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: that you just can't teach. It's interesting though his comparisons 631 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: Tyler Higbie, you ended up having a very nice season 632 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the year with the Rams, and 633 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: I think came out at the end of the year, 634 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: don't you have a hundred yards? And he was on 635 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: my fantasy team and I know that, I know this 636 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: guy was productive at the end of that season last 637 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: year for the Rams. But I'll give me the Kittle comparison. 638 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: All day long. But I think there are a couple 639 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: of good ones. I just don't think for the Browns. 640 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: When you sign Austin Hooper, you've got David and Joeku 641 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: who I know that Andrew Berry still very much believes 642 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: in that. You would be looking where you'd have to 643 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: pick these guys, which would be pick forty one. I 644 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: think if you're talking about one of the Bryants or 645 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: if you're talking about Cole here, you're gonna have to 646 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: go forty one. And I don't see the Browns doing that. Yeah, 647 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: we would be talking a lot more about Commett had 648 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: you not signed Austin Hooper. And you know, I remember 649 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of road trips we made this year 650 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: where you get to the hotel around like four or 651 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: four thirty. That's right in the in the Noture Dame 652 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: window of viewing. You put them on. And I've got 653 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: a couple of friends that are big Notre Dame fans, 654 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: And this is when the Browns having some issues at 655 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: the tight end position, to say the least. And I'd 656 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: watch these games that give me this guy on on 657 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: this team right now. I mean, that's a player that 658 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: can help this team. But you got the guy that 659 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: in Austin Hooper. You got the joke, WU back Healthy 660 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: probably commits Probably not a guy you're talking about with 661 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: the Browns. It's all I almost put him in the 662 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: same category as like a Chase Young. It's like, I 663 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: can I can talk about Chase Young. I I don't 664 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: think I'll be seeing him in brown and orange. Uh 665 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: this this coming in? Yeah? Good call. That's a look 666 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: at the tight ends. Let's move on to the linebacker spot. 667 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: Now we combined them inside outside. Give me your top 668 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: five linebackers. What we ended up with was seven. Not 669 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: I have not six, seven because we had three that 670 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: were tied for that fifth coveted spot. They included uh 671 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: Lacan alright, Gribbs, you got it from Clavon Chasing but 672 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: he's more of a he's an edge rusher. He's more 673 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: of like I think he's being viewed in the NFL 674 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: as a defensive end rather than a than a linebacker. 675 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: For our purposes, you would be considered right now, behind 676 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: Chase Young, the second pass rusher in this draft, right, Gribbs? 677 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: Would that be a fair all right? So we'll take 678 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: him out, So then we're down to six. Good news, 679 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: we've almost complied with the rules. Malik Harrison from Ohio State. HM, 680 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: I put him in there. I admit that is my 681 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: number five guy, and I just I'm more viewing this 682 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: through the prism of what the Browns might need. And 683 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: I think that the Browns need Hi middle linebacker, and 684 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: I think he's he's your big thumper in the middle 685 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: that can help you out. Uh. And I think he 686 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: projects pretty well. And again probably not not not maybe 687 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: a second round pick, but someone you might be still 688 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: good about crapping in the third round. And then Zigura, 689 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: you had a guy that I had going to us 690 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: in the mock draft one point oh in the second round, 691 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: a chem Davis Gaither on Appalachian State. YEA, not the 692 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: not the biggest guy, but he can He's got good 693 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: cover skill six four, he can run uh and a 694 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: good athlete. He's a playmaker. He has a knack for 695 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: getting off blocks and making plays. UM. So I've had 696 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: him down there. I think if you're talking about a 697 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: two down thumber linebacker, there's nobody better maybe in this 698 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: draft Emily Harrison. And I think for the Browns, given 699 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: you know the versatility of Mack Wilson, more of a 700 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: cover talkie a little bit lighter in terms of you know, 701 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: can he hit? Of course, can he like he's shot 702 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: out of a cannon, but maybe more of a sam 703 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: in this scheme. That would give you your your base 704 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: package thumper, and then if you need when you go 705 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: into your sub packages, you can come in with more 706 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: of your athletic guys. Davis gave through to be a 707 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: sub package or athletic guy for you at linebacker as 708 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: opposed to that thumper. Now the questions do they think 709 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: Mack Wilson, who played Mike at Alabama in this defense? 710 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: Could he be the mic? And then what you're looking 711 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: for to pair with him would be a will linebacker 712 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: who can be a cover guy. David Skeither potentially could 713 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: be that kind of a player. All right. At number four, 714 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: we had Zack Bond from Wisconsin, a guy that I 715 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: think all three of us like and especially if he 716 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: were around, uh pick forty one on that day too. 717 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: The question is will he actually be there? Some mocks 718 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: say will others say is the first round pick and 719 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: just monster production. I mean that's I just saw the 720 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: numbers alone just jump out, and I think that he 721 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: can just really he can help out any team, but 722 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 1: I think he would particularly help out this team at 723 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: an area where that maybe needs some of the most 724 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: dressing when you're when you're going into this draft, I've 725 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: liked the pedigree of like what you got out of 726 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: these Wisconsin players that come in and and produce in 727 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: the NFL. He'd be he'd be a good addition at 728 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: for you one. I think keep you run to the 729 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: return button on your computer. Had he uh, if he's 730 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: available a number four you So what's interesting to me 731 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: about him and and is that when I watched him, 732 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: he's a pass rusher. I mean that's what he did. 733 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: He played basically defensive end for Wisconsin and was a 734 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: pass rusher. And so what would he be in terms 735 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: of a linebacker. Is he a sub package pass rusher? 736 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: Is he a sam that if we played more of 737 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: a traditional four three look on defense, where he would 738 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: be kind of the overhang linebacker that's near the line 739 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, that's rushing the quarterback. So I wonder how 740 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: he fits necessarily with us or or how he's viewed. 741 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: But then again, Joe Schobert was a pass rusher at 742 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: Wisconsin as well and ended up becoming a Pro Bowl 743 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: MIC linebacker with the Browns, so they he's fluid in coverage, 744 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: he can drop, but he played much closer to the 745 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage than maybe the traditional off ball linebacker 746 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: that we probably feel the Browns would be more inclined 747 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: to target at this point. But if you get a 748 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: guy who could do both, then you know, you say 749 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: to your off Okay, well we've got Vernon Adrian Claybourne. 750 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: Now we've got bombed, We've got all these pass rushing opportunities. 751 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: That's something to to look at. But do you do 752 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: you think he fits necessarily what we're looking for in 753 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 1: that or would you be drafting him as a defensive 754 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: end with you or would you because he's a little 755 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: undersized for that from traditional NFL standards. Yeah, I I 756 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't put him at defensive end for for this defense. 757 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: I I would I'm going on pedigree and knowing a 758 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: guy that can produce, and I think you've got to 759 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: vie him as a linebacker if he gets to that 760 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: for you once. YEA. All right, So Gribbs taking a 761 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: look at our number three and our number two guys. 762 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: Number three was Patrick queen On of l S SHO 763 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: Number two, Kenneth Murray out of Oklahoma. Big difference between 764 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: those two because I mean, really a lot of people, 765 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: a lot of my drafts have them going the second 766 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: linebacker off the board the third linebacker. Is it really 767 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: a big difference grips For me, it was splitting hairs, 768 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: and I think they kind of fall into the same 769 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: kind of grouping as one another. And I think for 770 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: for the Browns, I don't know if either of them 771 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: are gonna get to the Browns at one I'd be 772 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: happy to have them both, but they're They're both just 773 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: the solid linebackers, so I think are going to be 774 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: immediate starters in the NFL. And all their comps sort 775 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: of guys who played in the NFL for a long 776 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: time produced. Uh. These guys played a big schools produced. Uh. 777 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: There to me, there are some of the two two 778 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: of the safest picks in wherever their their ranges in 779 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 1: the draft. You're talking late first round, early second round. 780 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: Murray six to four, he runs a four or five 781 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: forty that the comp that lands Lane gives for him 782 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: is Kwan Alexander, who has been a stud linebacker in 783 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. Uh. He gives Thomas Davis for Patrick Queen 784 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,959 Speaker 1: a little bit smaller. I think he's six foot about 785 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: two twenty nine. Both with the I think Murray would 786 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: play that that Michael, you can do anything for your 787 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: queen can do anything for you too. Maybe more of 788 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: a will Uh in the NFL. But both these guys 789 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: absolute studs, and if either one was there at forty one, 790 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: you would have to think about it. Now. I still 791 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: have what I and my belief is we need them 792 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: that are in in that room. Maybe not necessarily another 793 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: rookie in that linebacking room, but those these guys are 794 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: both talented. They're just easy athletes, explosive athletes, as Grip said, 795 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: productive at big schools in big games. They stood out 796 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: when you watched either of those two teams, you knew 797 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 1: exactly who they were. They look like playmakers. They look 798 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: like they were the running the defenses. That's what you 799 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: want out of these guys. They're both awesome, awesome, and really, 800 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we just don't want 801 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: either one of them going to an a f C 802 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: North team. You know, the one team that I would 803 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 1: worry about would be the Bengals. Right, It's not They're 804 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: not gonna it's not gonna be the Steelers. I guess 805 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: potentially it could be the Ravens since that that mic 806 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: linebacker spots not solidified. But the Steelers went up and 807 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: got Devin Bush last year. Um, so it wouldn't be them. 808 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 1: But we know that the Bengals were hot on the 809 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: on the heels of Joe Schobert, so they could be 810 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: a team that would be looking to get a stud 811 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: on the interior of that linebacking corps. All right, and 812 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 1: then at number one, it's unanimous, and I don't think 813 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: we need to spend the number one. It's safety too. 814 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, depending on what we want to 815 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: put in that Isaiah Simmons on a Clemson he's just 816 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: that good. So wherever you want to put him, he 817 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 1: would be the number one probably guy at that position. Yeah, dominant, 818 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: best playmaker on defense in this draft. If he's there 819 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 1: at ten, it makes me I would have to rethink 820 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: absolutely everything. If I was the Browns, I don't think 821 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: that will be a problem, though. I don't see any 822 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: way this guy would be on the board at ten. 823 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: He's just an absolute stud, best playmaker everybody in the 824 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,919 Speaker 1: NFL could use. And Isaiah Simmons on their defense. All right, 825 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: that's uh, the top five at the positions of linebacker, 826 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: wide receiver, and tight end. Before I get you guys 827 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: out of here for the evening for the day. Uh. 828 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: The All Decade team announced on Monday, compliments of the 829 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: National Football League. Can I get a snub biggest snub 830 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: from either one of you guys, But the snub can't 831 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: be Drew Brees. Who's your biggest snub? Gribbs will start 832 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: with you. Don't start with me, go to go to Nathan. 833 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: I think he has more opinions on the this one 834 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: would say. Look, I think DeAndre Hopkins is a massive 835 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: snub here. I mean the fact that Darren Sprowls made 836 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: it as a flex player on offense, which in my 837 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: mind means he was the next best wide receiver or 838 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: running back. I don't understand that at all. You've got 839 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: a guy that's produced more than a thousand yards from 840 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: scrimmage once in the decade, never was a first team 841 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 1: Mall Pro. Hopkins certainly has been. He's been productive. I 842 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: think you could even say Levian Bell deserves to be 843 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: on this team over him and Levian Bell's time. The 844 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: average a hundred and thirty yards from scrimmage, was the 845 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: most dominant player UH in the game at running back. 846 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: Two time first team All Pro. Jamal Charles has a 847 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 1: better case, And I think there are plenty of guys 848 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: that could be saying that they were snubbed, But to me, 849 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: it's it's almost a reverse. Darren Sprowls beyond this team 850 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,399 Speaker 1: as an offensive player in this decade. Like you could 851 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: have a draft and we could pick all the stud 852 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: offensive guys who played and and you'd have to get 853 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,240 Speaker 1: into the probably like forty nine round before Darren Sprowl's 854 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: name is even being mentioned. I mean, we're talking about 855 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 1: all decades that it just flabber guests. No, there's spect 856 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: great weapon, great versattle piece on your team. But he 857 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: made All Decade Team twice as a flex guy and 858 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: as a returner. Over kill, I'm necessary. I did my 859 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: My immediate reaction when I saw a team was when 860 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 1: I saw a breathe. And when I saw Brady and Rodgers, 861 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: I was like, I was like with with Rogers, I 862 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: was like, he's he's been great, and we talked about 863 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: he's most talented. But I would put I would put 864 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: in terms of production for this decade. I would put 865 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: Drew Brees over Aaron Rodgers. I just think he he 866 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: had the better decade than Aaron than Aaron Rodger. Aaron 867 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: Rodgers is a far more talented quarterback, but I think 868 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 1: Drew Brees was the better quarterback this decade. The other 869 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: snub I will throw in there, it is a coach. 870 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm going with Andy Reid. I think I'm I'm biased 871 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: because the recency of of them winning the Super Bowl, 872 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: but he is so good wherever he's been. I just 873 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm taking Andy Reader for Pete Carroll. I just I 874 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: think that's if I'm going ahead to h they're both great. 875 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm taking Andy Reid. I don't like Pete Carroll. And 876 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: by the way, because we were talking about this earlier 877 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: on Brown's Daily about these all decade teams. What a 878 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: cop out to not have a first team and a 879 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: second team, and I wanted to see if that was 880 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: a thing at the NBA. Did that too, No, the 881 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: NBA has a first team All Decade team for the 882 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 1: two thousand tents. It's Steph Curry, James Harden, Lebron James, 883 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Kawhi Leonard. Then they have a Second Team, 884 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: Chris Paul Westbrook, Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin, Carmelo Anthony Boom. Easy. 885 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: How can these guys not be differentiated? You're either the 886 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: best player of the decade at your position, and we 887 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: went through and we tried to put it together. But 888 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 1: you can't have multiple You can have four tackles. You 889 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: can have two quarterbacks on the All Decade team. There's 890 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 1: a first team in the second team. They could both 891 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: be All Decade performers, but there could only be one. 892 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 1: There's only one ball. You're bringing me back to my 893 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: days covering STC basketball. We're the first team All SEC 894 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: Basketball would have nine players on it. What's five you need? 895 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: You got you need five? That they were putting on 896 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: it and that that I mean that that's it's there's 897 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: there's no order in these things. Ridiculous, no question, But 898 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: we do want to shut Joe Thomas unanimous selection. Also 899 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: former former Cleveland Brown Alex Mack, who had some very 900 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: very good years here with the Cleveland Browns in some 901 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: not so great years with this football team on the 902 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: football field. Uh. Congratulations to both of those guys on 903 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 1: All Decade. Uh. If I could one word to describe 904 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski and now being a champion in the w W. 905 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: E is the girl. We'll start with you business. It's 906 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: only one words, good for business. Gronk's a popular guy. Gribbs, 907 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 1: I'll go in three words. It's news to me because 908 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: even though I was following everyone on social media, I 909 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: didn't know what happened to anything. He won the seven championship, 910 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: which is like a comedy prop champiship where it could 911 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: be defended at all times. If you're in a grocery 912 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: store and somebody Knocksy down and Penzi they get to 913 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,240 Speaker 1: be the twenty seven champion. It's always constantly being defended. 914 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: It was a good moment for Gronk. He was a 915 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: little gotta He's gotta find his his wrestling persona. He's 916 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: got to be able to like tone it down in 917 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: a productive way. He needs the crowd, right, I mean, 918 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: and he needs you need Yeah, you need people to 919 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: especially if you're most of your work is based with 920 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 1: a microphone. You're it's a give and take. You're trying 921 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: to get reactions from people. When you're doing that to 922 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: an empty arena, it's a little bit more difficult to 923 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: feel what exactly the reactions to your words are do 924 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 1: you think he has a long term future? Sure? Yeah? 925 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 1: I called this. How long ago have I been talking 926 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: about this? Give back said he was still playing probably 927 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: two years and they said it's ground to be playing 928 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: for the Patriots next year or what I said, He's 929 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,919 Speaker 1: gonna be in the w W at Wrestleman. Sure enough 930 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: he was. He was the host of WrestleMania. Semon, send 931 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: me some more dinner that I have to pay for 932 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: the food towers, baby, that's right, the food towers. All right. 933 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: That's gonna wrap up Episode fourteen of the Best podcast Available. 934 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: Thanks to Gribbs. Thank you to Nathan Zigura as well. 935 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: You can log on to Cleveland Browns dot com or 936 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe today to the best 937 00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: podcast available. Also check out all of our episodes at 938 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: our YouTube page at YouTube dot com Slash Browns. You 939 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: can check that out to all our latest interviews with 940 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 1: some of our new free agents. Zagura's working from home 941 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: segments with players doing a nice shot with that. Also 942 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's daily archives as well. Everything you need to 943 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 1: know as you get ready for the NFL Draft. For 944 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: Jeff McDaniel, appreciate all of his hard work and Paul Taylor. 945 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: Thanks to both of them, I'm Jason Gibbs. Thanks for watching, 946 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best podcast available