Speaker 1: It is Monday, December seven. This is Jaguars Happy Hours.
Speaker 1: Jack Wars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and
Speaker 1: now a guy who definitely knows you don't blitz when
Speaker 1: you have no corners, Jay Peace Shadrick. It was a
Speaker 1: roller coaster of emotions yesterday here in studio. Welcome in
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday, presented by Jet Home Loans.
Speaker 1: My name's j P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco and Tony Boselli.
Speaker 1: Coming up. We have a busy program. We'll recap the
Speaker 1: Jaguars Vikings game. The defense battled throughout. Four turnovers on
Speaker 1: offense sealed the fate, especially the overtime. When we'll go
Speaker 1: around the a f C South and not so powerful
Speaker 1: draft order. Thanks a lot, Jets, and we'll go on
Speaker 1: the National Football League. The Raiders touchdown in the final seconds.
Speaker 1: There was a five minute window where the Jags had
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick yesterday and then Greg Williams
Speaker 1: decided to bring eight on a fourth and forever play.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars, though, had moments where they could have won
Speaker 1: the game yesterday in Minnesota. The interception and overtime sealed it, though,
Speaker 1: and the field goal won it for Minnesota, and ot
Speaker 1: Doug Marone after the game about his team battling the
Speaker 1: rest of the way. You know, he listened. Today, we
Speaker 1: turned the ball over, we gave up points on turnover.
Speaker 1: We did some things that we were trying to get done.
Speaker 1: We still had an opportunity late in the game. You know,
Speaker 1: defense had a really good stop and then we get
Speaker 1: appendalty on our special team play. You know, we started
Speaker 1: the deep and then then to pick. So you know, um,
Speaker 1: you know, there there's a lot of things that are
Speaker 1: going on, and you know, we'll continue to keep fighting
Speaker 1: and keep working our way through. But the one thing
Speaker 1: is that you know, you know, in situation like this
Speaker 1: and the way this team is is you know, we're
Speaker 1: going to continue to support each other and continue to
Speaker 1: keep fighting until they tell uside gets over. Head coach
Speaker 1: Jack Barone after the game yesterday, Pete Frisco Tony Boselli
Speaker 1: with us. Now, good afternoon, gentlemen. Pete, what are you
Speaker 1: What are you shaking your head for? Because I could
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what the people in Jacksonville were feeling
Speaker 1: for about five minutes until that play in the Jets game.
Speaker 1: I mean, all they were thinking about is Trevor Lawrence?
Speaker 1: You know, I know what they were thinking. They were thinking,
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence will be ours. Don't score, don't score, don't
Speaker 1: get the two point play, don't get the two point play.
Speaker 1: And they got the two point play and went to overtime,
Speaker 1: still lost the game. And then Greg Williams with his
Speaker 1: zero coverage with a backup corner, who is this scrappy
Speaker 1: pick up? Really want to drive the nail home a
Speaker 1: little bit for the Jaguar fans, David Bryant, who you
Speaker 1: picked ahead of Lamar Jackson? Right, Well, now you got
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson corner who ruined your chances of getting Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: That name is not good and Jaguars lure is it? Well? Um,
Speaker 1: there's season left. Uh when I say a lot four
Speaker 1: games and I'm a believer that I actually think the
Speaker 1: Jags are gonna win one more game because we'll get
Speaker 1: into the team in a second where specifically because they
Speaker 1: play hard. If you know this as well as I
Speaker 1: do late in the season, not those the most talented
Speaker 1: team wins when teams start mailing it in and things
Speaker 1: got to go sideways. Is a team that plays hard
Speaker 1: and you find ways to win games that maybe you
Speaker 1: shouldn't or your last talented and I'll put the one
Speaker 1: on the board right now is that Chicago Bears team
Speaker 1: is not very good and they're they're spiraling out of
Speaker 1: control offensively now the defense is starting to play poorly,
Speaker 1: and I could see them mailing it in because this
Speaker 1: is a team that was five and one at one point,
Speaker 1: they're now five and seven. I think this team that
Speaker 1: Dug Brones coaching will play hard the rest of the year. Um,
Speaker 1: and I can see them winning one more So. Well,
Speaker 1: what Greg Williams did yesterday to me is less offensive
Speaker 1: as a Jaguar fan because there's just so many things
Speaker 1: that still can happen. Um, and I do think we'll
Speaker 1: win one more game. It's more offensive as a football
Speaker 1: person that you would call that defense because, um, every
Speaker 1: one of my five kids, from my eleven year old
Speaker 1: daughter to my twenty year old son, would know better
Speaker 1: that on third and fifteen with thirteen seconds left, when
Speaker 1: the opponent has no touchdowns, that, um, you don't go
Speaker 1: all out and play zero coverage in man outside against
Speaker 1: guys who are really fast and you're not, and that
Speaker 1: all you have to do is tackle them in within
Speaker 1: the field of play and the game's over. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know a person in my life from my
Speaker 1: parents in their seventies, to my daughter, to my sons,
Speaker 1: to my wife. Do you pe to j P who
Speaker 1: went to Alabama? I mean too, I mean, you name it.
Speaker 1: You could just go across the board everybody an the
Speaker 1: whole more. Somebody living in some remote part of another
Speaker 1: country that's never scenes before. If you told him the
Speaker 1: situation would not go all outlets in zero coverage. It's
Speaker 1: offensive to me and he I know Greg, and I'd
Speaker 1: tell Greg to his face this and he deserved to
Speaker 1: be fired after making that kind of mistake. That is
Speaker 1: like unreal, what's the what's the end game on? You know,
Speaker 1: he's always been arrogant. You know that he was bounty game.
Speaker 1: He's always been cocky and arrogant, going back to the
Speaker 1: days when he was a defensive coordinator in Tennessee and
Speaker 1: he was a hated guy back then for Jaguar fans.
Speaker 1: Now they should hate him even more. I mean, my gosh.
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing, Tony that you you probably
Speaker 1: didn't know this JP probably does on the play before
Speaker 1: they were kind of in zero cover and the guy
Speaker 1: was wide open, and he pissed them car miss them.
Speaker 1: I mean it's here. Hold on at one point, though,
Speaker 1: after you've dodged a bullet on the one before his
Speaker 1: gaze not go hey, everybody, get back, get back, everyone
Speaker 1: back up right, You're fired right now, get off the field.
Speaker 1: I'm taking over as defensive coordinator. Everyone back up to
Speaker 1: the end line and tackle. Well, you know what happened.
Speaker 1: And I mocked this on one of our shows yesterday.
Speaker 1: The call came down Christopher Johnson, Adam gaze please yes, Uh, anybody,
Speaker 1: including Lamar Jackson, gets a little X or something in
Speaker 1: their check if they act like they're defending the guy
Speaker 1: and let him go buydown. That's basically what happened. No,
Speaker 1: it did not. But here's the other thing. Don't you
Speaker 1: alert your defensive backs if a guy's running by a
Speaker 1: pull them down? Tackle right? How about this? Why are
Speaker 1: you biting on a double? Who was gonna do? Tony?
Speaker 1: He's an undrafted corner. What do you expect. I don't
Speaker 1: blame him. I blamed the coach. I blame Greg Williams.
Speaker 1: You don't put your players in situations where they can't succeed.
Speaker 1: And they put him in a position where you can't succeed.
Speaker 1: That is I can't stress this enough for everyone listening
Speaker 1: to us, and who will listen to us the rest
Speaker 1: of this week. That is the most basic play in
Speaker 1: all of football. I guarantee you whoever is the defensive
Speaker 1: quality control guy on that staff could have lined up
Speaker 1: everyone up and been more successful than Greg Williams, who
Speaker 1: has been a defensive care here for thirty years. Now
Speaker 1: here's here's one point. What are your teammates is on
Speaker 1: that's one of your former teammates is on that staff.
Speaker 1: I know Brad him. What do you think? I'm surprised, no,
Speaker 1: uh brand, But he didn't run out there that Broyer
Speaker 1: did not run out there and tackle Greg Williams and
Speaker 1: get a flag before the play went off. And I'll
Speaker 1: give you another guy, another Jacksonville fiery guy for from Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: Shawan Jefferson. I'm surprised he did daggle him. Hey isn't.
Speaker 1: Greg Williams is known for that a little bit though, right,
Speaker 1: bringing a little heat. That has been a big blitz guy.
Speaker 1: But why would you blitz in that situation? And you
Speaker 1: know you're Tony were talking about this before the show.
Speaker 1: I see it all the time in Hail Mary's too,
Speaker 1: rush three, drop what six? But usually they drop six
Speaker 1: and they leave two in the middle of the field
Speaker 1: that have no nothing to do with the play zero.
Speaker 1: So either I'm a big believer if you're a hail
Speaker 1: may if you're in a hail Mary situation or a
Speaker 1: long situation, bring those guys, bring one of them, rush
Speaker 1: the extra guy to try and flush them out and
Speaker 1: make the throw harder, and drop the other guy. If
Speaker 1: you're in the middle of the field. So what if
Speaker 1: he catches you, rush up, you tackle him in the
Speaker 1: game's over, yea, But you wouldn't drop him where you'd
Speaker 1: have five on the back line and three in the middle.
Speaker 1: You'd have you're not going to throw in the middle anyway, Like,
Speaker 1: what correct do you come up and tackle? It's sometimes
Speaker 1: coaching is just mystifying. And that was just bold arrogance
Speaker 1: and it cost the Jaguars a chance. What's what's the
Speaker 1: feeling in town been like today? I mean, people get
Speaker 1: up there, fairness, it didn't cost us anything at this point,
Speaker 1: because there's still a bunch of football to aren't winning
Speaker 1: another game. Ton't you just stop it? I think they
Speaker 1: win one more. I don't. I think they're going one in.
Speaker 1: Can the Jets win one? We mean, just look they
Speaker 1: play they play Seattle. Okay, they're not winning that one, right,
Speaker 1: the Giants and beat the heck out of Seattle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's even worse for the That's even worse for
Speaker 1: the Jets, isn't it. Yeah? They got Seattle, the Rams,
Speaker 1: the Browns, and the Patriots. So somebody, and again this
Speaker 1: theory is out there week seventeen. I mean, we'd sixteen seventeen,
Speaker 1: they play Patriots, decide, guys get hurt, so they don't
Speaker 1: get Trevor Lawrence, who knows, who knows what happens? I mean,
Speaker 1: but on the surface, if you look at the two edules,
Speaker 1: jet Wards maybe can beat the Bears. Which one is
Speaker 1: the maybe in that net scenario for the Jet for
Speaker 1: the Jets, I think the Browns because the Jets have
Speaker 1: a decent run defense, and I just don't. I still
Speaker 1: don't trust the Browns, even though I had a great
Speaker 1: game last weekend, and I think they always play the
Speaker 1: Patriots up. I can see them beating the Patriots. Patriots
Speaker 1: are a team that can like jackal and hide. I
Speaker 1: mean who knows what you're gonna get, although they scored
Speaker 1: forty points, because the Chargers might have the worst special
Speaker 1: team situation in the history of the NFL. UM, I
Speaker 1: think they can be Listen, I don't think it's gonna happen, bete,
Speaker 1: but I think they can. I don't think they can
Speaker 1: beat the Seahawks or the Rams on the road. That's
Speaker 1: back to back West Coast game. That's just not happening.
Speaker 1: Do you think they can beat the Browns at home?
Speaker 1: And I do think they can go up up the road,
Speaker 1: uh to New England to beat the Patriots. By the way,
Speaker 1: did you set out a tweet Jets win? Jets win,
Speaker 1: Jets win, because the one without lout by losing. The
Speaker 1: Jaguars lost yesterday. They lost twice, just brutal. What a
Speaker 1: wild five minute window, of course, so um, let's come back.
Speaker 1: We'll get into the Jags Vikings game when we return.
Speaker 1: We'll start with the defense, because they played a pretty
Speaker 1: good game yesterday. I think in whole A little later
Speaker 1: we'll get into Mike Glennan's day. He had three a
Speaker 1: couple of receptions of fumble as well, and planning to
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Speaker 1: a young team and you gotta there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of experience in games like that or moments like that
Speaker 1: for a lot of guys in my team yet. And
Speaker 1: football is a momentum game, and when you have momentum,
Speaker 1: it's everything seems to be going your way, and then
Speaker 1: once it shifts, it's it's hard to get it back.
Speaker 1: For I thought the guys, like you said, after they
Speaker 1: scored those few times they are, especially on defense speaking for,
Speaker 1: did a really good job of rallying back and being
Speaker 1: able to start limiting them again and holding them out
Speaker 1: getting three and now it's getting holding them the field
Speaker 1: goal attempts and stuff. So um, I think you put
Speaker 1: it well and it's something we gotta work on, improve on,
Speaker 1: and we gotta be able to experience it and get
Speaker 1: better at Joe schober Jaguar's linebacker, had his best day
Speaker 1: as a Jaguar yesterday and welcome back to Jaguar's Happy
Speaker 1: Hour j P. Shadrick with Pete Briscoe and Tony Boselli.
Speaker 1: Your social questions coming up in the second hour. Schobert
Speaker 1: yesterday had twelve tackles, a sack, two quarterback hits and
Speaker 1: an interception returned for a touchdown and another past defense
Speaker 1: as well. It's a pretty good day at the office
Speaker 1: for Schobert, who's now he's in the top ten. I
Speaker 1: think he's seventh in the league in total tackles this year.
Speaker 1: But Tony, that was his best day overall, at least
Speaker 1: statistically as a jack. Yeah, no, it was. I mean
Speaker 1: the interception, you got good awareness and he's playing man
Speaker 1: coverage or trying to set a scream up screen up
Speaker 1: and Dovin Cook and Kirk Cousins weren't on the same
Speaker 1: page and so it doesn't get any easier than that.
Speaker 1: But he like he read it. He was in the
Speaker 1: right place. So um, yeah, I didn't notice the more yesterday.
Speaker 1: And you bring up the statistics and maybe Pete and
Speaker 1: I are wrong. I mean, I would say we've been
Speaker 1: critical of him, but we haven't been glowing in our praise.
Speaker 1: But you know, being top ten and tackles means something.
Speaker 1: He's around the ball a lot um, he's been solid,
Speaker 1: he's been available, and I think the greatest thing he's
Speaker 1: done this year is allowing Miles Jack but play will i'mbacker,
Speaker 1: and so it's a win getting him because he lets
Speaker 1: Miles Jack play the week's side linebacker. Look, he's been okay.
Speaker 1: Nobody ever said he was terrible. He's just been okay.
Speaker 1: But they're paying a lot of money for okay. I
Speaker 1: mean that was our point. The point was get that.
Speaker 1: But I mean tackle statistics, the stature a little bit
Speaker 1: always questionable. You're not questionable, but you know it's how
Speaker 1: teams do it and everything else in the NFL ultimately
Speaker 1: is the final sign off on it. But let's get
Speaker 1: the guy credit. He's top ten and tackle it is
Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, the numbers speak for themselves
Speaker 1: after after twelve games, being um up there and one
Speaker 1: of the highest producers as far as making tackles meet something. Okay,
Speaker 1: you think he's played to the head, Well, Pete, uh,
Speaker 1: It's it's hard sometimes, I mean, because here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Sometimes on a bad team you get overlooked and you're
Speaker 1: playing better than you get credit for it. Other times
Speaker 1: you're on a bad team, you're making all the tackles
Speaker 1: because no one else is. And so which is it? Well,
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. Nevill Ewit of the Jets
Speaker 1: is too behind him? Is Nevil? You its a really
Speaker 1: good linebacker. You just made my point, Pete. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I mean, you have to you have to
Speaker 1: step back and look at the numbers. But he's been okay, nobody,
Speaker 1: we haven't ripped him or anything. I just think that
Speaker 1: saying we have, I'm saying maybe we should be giving
Speaker 1: me a more credit. No, I agree with you, he's
Speaker 1: been okay. We're not. I don't think anyone on the
Speaker 1: show has ripped Josh Over at one time. Um, not
Speaker 1: at all. I'll say this. I thought the defensive performance
Speaker 1: yesterday was impressive. Um, they're putting bad situations offense, turn
Speaker 1: the ball over four times defensively, you're ay when we
Speaker 1: get two turnovers. Um, a little bit fortunate on the miss,
Speaker 1: you know, the the miss handoff by Cousins, the Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 1: But I think it was creative because qualits up the
Speaker 1: field and penetrate in the backfield disrupting it. I thought
Speaker 1: they played good. I mean, think about this, how about
Speaker 1: your starting how about your starting defensive line yesterday? Be
Speaker 1: Um Bant move Uh Costas the quality and uh and
Speaker 1: Doug Coston. It's amazing. It's amazing. And by the way,
Speaker 1: they're getting better. Doug Coston is like, I mean, you
Speaker 1: have a former first rounder who doesn't get on the
Speaker 1: field with a bunch of undrafted rookie free agents and
Speaker 1: guys who are off the street showing up. Doug Costons,
Speaker 1: Doug Coston is going to be a good player, which
Speaker 1: means yeah, which means think about this. You have too.
Speaker 1: You could argue with the Von Hambleton and I are
Speaker 1: are the best two rookies on this team to drafted
Speaker 1: guys Doug Coston and James Robinson right now? They are? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's well, I mean, you know you gotta throw in
Speaker 1: Yeah you I mean shoal to be in the conversation
Speaker 1: of you and her, but you know you're right, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. It's the two are undrafted and and and
Speaker 1: I think Costin is one of those guys that can
Speaker 1: hang around for a while. I think he's a good
Speaker 1: building block. I think he's a boy. He's a good
Speaker 1: role Yeah. I don't know if you like you want
Speaker 1: to hang your hand and say, hey, we want you
Speaker 1: playing sixty snaps a game and you're gonna be disruptive
Speaker 1: and take over football games. But he's a rotation guy
Speaker 1: that you can go with so he's just off the TV.
Speaker 1: It looked like Chason was a little more active yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Um, I wonder though I said
Speaker 1: it before the game and and I got laughed at
Speaker 1: the pregame because we're trying like how do the Jags win?
Speaker 1: Where do they have an advantage? And I said, I
Speaker 1: don't think there's Vikings off lines very good. I mean
Speaker 1: they're small. I don't think they're physical, and I think
Speaker 1: they get pushed around and the Jaguars pushing around. And
Speaker 1: so I mean, not that we're gonna talk about the
Speaker 1: Vikings much, but I don't see the Vikings doing much.
Speaker 1: They might sneak into the playoffs just because the NFC
Speaker 1: is such a mess, but I don't see them doing
Speaker 1: much and they can't win at the line of scrimmage. Well,
Speaker 1: they played Tampa, they played Tampa in New Orleans and
Speaker 1: two of the next four. They're not getting into the postseason. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think so either. But give the defense credit
Speaker 1: because they stood up when they had to it over time.
Speaker 1: You know, it made some plays, they got stuff done. Um,
Speaker 1: they disrupted you know, the Vikings offense, which is not great,
Speaker 1: but you know, Dalvin Cook held them uner four yards
Speaker 1: of carry d averaging five point two coming in. That's
Speaker 1: a good job. But you have to agree though that
Speaker 1: with Costin and Hamilton's and Smooth, you have a good
Speaker 1: nucleus of what I mean, Hamilton's end up being the
Speaker 1: starting knows, but a good group of guys that could
Speaker 1: be on that defensive line with Josh Allen well yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but Smooth is a free agent. I mean, what do
Speaker 1: you what do you have to pay to give him back?
Speaker 1: You think here's the thing, and I'm and you know
Speaker 1: you guys, I'm believer in Josh Allen. But all those
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, it's nice, they're good rotation players, but
Speaker 1: you have to have a difference maker. Where's the difference maker?
Speaker 1: And it's gonna have to be Josh Allen. Now we
Speaker 1: thought he was a difference maker afters rookie Here, I'm
Speaker 1: giving him a pass this year because of all the
Speaker 1: injuries and kind of what we went through. But he boy,
Speaker 1: you you're counting on him being a different to maker
Speaker 1: because I don't see from this point. It's early, but
Speaker 1: Jason doesn't look like a different to maker as a
Speaker 1: four three DEFENSI mean to me. Well, yeah, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. He's got to pick it up in the
Speaker 1: last four games to show that he's not a major
Speaker 1: disappointment because he hasn't done much at all. I just
Speaker 1: thought he was a little more active. It looked a
Speaker 1: little more comfortable for him yesterday off the tv. Now
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just going off the TV and I
Speaker 1: watched the tape. So you have to always you always
Speaker 1: have to give young defensive end, especially guys who are
Speaker 1: kind of hybrid in college. Give him a pass, not
Speaker 1: a pass, but give me a year to get stronger,
Speaker 1: give me a year to develop pass rush skills, and
Speaker 1: hopefully that happens. But you know, the early returns are
Speaker 1: a lot of questions, by the way, but you would
Speaker 1: think you would think that he would. I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: like Bud Dupree was a guy in his first couple
Speaker 1: of years that people thought he might be a bust.
Speaker 1: Remember his first year. You know when nobody sacks he
Speaker 1: had his first year, or I mean, at least think
Speaker 1: you'd fall into a couple, wouldn't you. Yeah, that's I agree.
Speaker 1: By the way. Um, Tavin Bryant has not been mentioned
Speaker 1: on this show yet. Sixteen snaps out of ninety one yesterday.
Speaker 1: Kudos to the coaching staff for that. By the way,
Speaker 1: kudos to the coaches staff. If you don't earn your
Speaker 1: way to have more time, play the guy who is
Speaker 1: no matter where he comes from, and I give him
Speaker 1: credit for that. Some teams would hold on to the
Speaker 1: idea of keeping a first I'll pick higher into rotation.
Speaker 1: If you don't earn it, don't play him. I think
Speaker 1: that's great for the staff that they did that. And
Speaker 1: what was what was the stat lines in sixteen place?
Speaker 1: He had none. He's not on the statue, so it's
Speaker 1: about par for the course. He had a he had
Speaker 1: a Taven Bryant stat line. Yeah, it's it's you know, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't want to beat up on the become the guy.
Speaker 1: It's just it hasn't worked out so far. What do
Speaker 1: you mean it hasn't worked down so far? He said,
Speaker 1: How kind do you It hasn't worked out so far. Boy.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I pray. I pray every night
Speaker 1: and get down on my hands and knees. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pray that you become some kind of personnel decision maker
Speaker 1: in that organization, because you know why, I think, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna giving I'm gonna read that. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: dead serious here for a second, JP, I think Facility
Speaker 1: would be outstanding as a vice president of player personnel
Speaker 1: or football operations. He would hire a good lieutenant because
Speaker 1: he doesn't. You haven't come through the scouting ranks, Tony.
Speaker 1: You don't know what the scouting ways are and everything.
Speaker 1: So you do like John Lynch. John Lynch hired Adam
Speaker 1: Peters in San Francisco because he came up through the ranks.
Speaker 1: Tony could handle the overseeing the whole thing and be
Speaker 1: the decision maker along with a good lieutenant like you know,
Speaker 1: like Adam Peters or somebody from another organization. And then
Speaker 1: I can sit on the radio every Monday and just
Speaker 1: blister him and blister him and blister him for his
Speaker 1: bad decision that draft pick. Oh my goodness, doing you.
Speaker 1: I think I appreciate you saying that in the serious moment.
Speaker 1: Now the less serious moment, I think part of your
Speaker 1: prayers are just so you could just torch me as
Speaker 1: much as you possibly could, but be like you picked
Speaker 1: that guy. You picked a running back forth overall the
Speaker 1: time in the world. First of all, you know I
Speaker 1: would never do that. That's the first thing. Um. The
Speaker 1: second thing is is anytime you did rip me, I'd
Speaker 1: be calling you right on the phone saying, hey, let's
Speaker 1: have a little discussion about this, Mr Priscoe. Okay, just
Speaker 1: like when we when I covered you when you were
Speaker 1: a player, you I always good my own and you
Speaker 1: always came to me and stood your ground. I like
Speaker 1: that respect that. Yeah. But yeah, it's the hard part
Speaker 1: right now, chipped them back to the game is we're
Speaker 1: searching for positives in the team that's lost the leaven straight.
Speaker 1: It's hard and and it's hard and by the way,
Speaker 1: none of the fans want to hear it. The fans
Speaker 1: right now are basically where Peat is, like, Hey, I
Speaker 1: hope the Jets lose or win, and I hope we
Speaker 1: lose every game. And that's not where you want to
Speaker 1: be as an organization. That's the frustrating part. I thought
Speaker 1: Trey Herndon did some good things yesterday. Herd that nine tackles,
Speaker 1: he had tack for loss. He had a past defense
Speaker 1: as well. He's good in the He's a nickel I
Speaker 1: think Pete he's good in that slot. He's physical, he
Speaker 1: can come play the run. He's not afraid to stick
Speaker 1: his head in there. I think he'll become a better blitzer. Um.
Speaker 1: The only thing I want to see is is is
Speaker 1: making sure he has the short you know, the short
Speaker 1: area quickness to play that slot position. But the really
Speaker 1: good slot corners are physical players who are smart players,
Speaker 1: and they recognize and identify pre snap kind of what
Speaker 1: the options and play good leverage and everything else. And
Speaker 1: I think Trey Herning can be that type of player. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's get some positives off the defense. I know
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to the offense a little bit, but
Speaker 1: give me a couple of positives off the d I
Speaker 1: thought he was one. I thought just Off Smooth played
Speaker 1: well at times. Who else Jack Jack I mean Jackie Show.
Speaker 1: Uh well, I thought Dwayne Smoot is proving his case
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, listen, I could be a rotational player
Speaker 1: here and make you know, a few million bucks a
Speaker 1: year as a defensive in this league. Like he's starting
Speaker 1: like earlier, Like my goodness, I mean, you don't even
Speaker 1: want to put him out there. Uh. In his career,
Speaker 1: he's really turned into a pro. And I give him credit.
Speaker 1: We mentioned Coston. I think Coston is a positive. I think,
Speaker 1: gods this continues to play better and better as he
Speaker 1: gets his knee all the way back from having his
Speaker 1: a c L last year. As far as a run defender, um,
Speaker 1: I thought that was positive. In the overall run defense,
Speaker 1: I thought was a real positive of the day. It's
Speaker 1: actually a really good backup defensive line. That's what they
Speaker 1: just happy to be started. That's where we are. That's good,
Speaker 1: that's where we are. You got that covered at least, Hey,
Speaker 1: let's come back. We'll get to the offense when we returned.
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars is a gritted group that you know gives it.
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Speaker 1: Well hear from Doug maron coming up in just a
Speaker 1: little bit. Um so he one final thought on defense,
Speaker 1: but one smooth guys is the team leader in sacks,
Speaker 1: tackles for loss and quarterback hits this year. Think about that.
Speaker 1: That's the way it's going. He's having a good year.
Speaker 1: What's the four and a half sacks now? Correct? Correct? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's I mean has a chance maybe to get the seven,
Speaker 1: you know if he finishes strong this year, um or more.
Speaker 1: Who knows what he wants. But he's playing good football.
Speaker 1: He's a solid football player and he's you know he
Speaker 1: used Yeah, Pete, but think about this way where maybe
Speaker 1: you know he's the starting end of cross some of
Speaker 1: you know the other side, if Josh Allen becomes what
Speaker 1: we think he was after his rinky here take this
Speaker 1: year out. You know, he's the other side of it.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing because you know this
Speaker 1: JP you do as well. You don't build a team
Speaker 1: with a bunch of superstars. It's just it's impossible in
Speaker 1: the NFL because in the cap you have to have good,
Speaker 1: strong role players that are gonna be that mid to
Speaker 1: lower salary range that can be productive and help you win.
Speaker 1: I mean, go to look at any championship team, go
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs last year. It's littered with guys that
Speaker 1: the average fan, unless you're a Chiefs fan, might not
Speaker 1: know who they are. But they're guys who can step
Speaker 1: in and come make plays and are productive and are solid.
Speaker 1: Because you built you have your handful of superstars starting
Speaker 1: with the quarterback that can help you, that enable you
Speaker 1: to win the games. But you have to have those
Speaker 1: role the players. And uh and I do think there's
Speaker 1: some of those guys. There's a number of those guys
Speaker 1: on this team right now. Yeah, like Mike Panell on
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, just a j wide body guy comes in
Speaker 1: there and stuff. Yeah, you have to have those kind
Speaker 1: of guys. And Smoot is one of those guys. I
Speaker 1: would I would keep him. I would, you know, make
Speaker 1: sure that these guys that are playing, I think they
Speaker 1: all are part of a rotation. But you've gotta get more.
Speaker 1: And you know, we talk this could have been a
Speaker 1: really a good week for the Jaguars, and that if
Speaker 1: they lost that game at overtime and showed well, which
Speaker 1: is ideal scenario Joe growth and still lose and they
Speaker 1: almost had Trevor Lawrence because the Jets als won. But
Speaker 1: more than that, the news that the cap is probably
Speaker 1: gonna be a little higher than everybody expected. You know
Speaker 1: what that means, more cap room to spend. It's a
Speaker 1: plumb job. And anybody who says that in the national
Speaker 1: media that says it isn't is woefully misguided because it's
Speaker 1: a great job and there's so many assets available. Shot
Speaker 1: Con will spend. Uh, you have the money to spend,
Speaker 1: there's some good young players to build around, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of draft pick capital. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it should be a great situation to turn that
Speaker 1: thing around. Well, and what this team is missed on
Speaker 1: is getting those difference makers at the top of the draft.
Speaker 1: And that's what you have to hit on. And because
Speaker 1: you have number one, you have to have the difference
Speaker 1: maker quarterback. That's easy to set that aside for a second,
Speaker 1: but you have to have guys that, um you draft
Speaker 1: early or if you get them and pay them a
Speaker 1: much money, that are difference makers that determine the outcomes
Speaker 1: of game make game changing plays, go over above and beyond.
Speaker 1: You know, I used to love when Tom Conflin used
Speaker 1: to screen play up on the X and O or
Speaker 1: you know, because there's certain guys on every team or
Speaker 1: the good teams that can go above and beyond the
Speaker 1: way that the play was designed, or take that design
Speaker 1: play and create a big play, whether it's offensively or defensively.
Speaker 1: And if you look at the one year in the
Speaker 1: last you know, fifteen or whatever the number is that
Speaker 1: they went to the playoffs in seventeen and while offensively
Speaker 1: they had a bunch of issues and they got by
Speaker 1: with Blake and you know, just a so so uh group,
Speaker 1: they had a bunch of difference makers who made differences
Speaker 1: on defense. They had plays Campbell, who's in the running
Speaker 1: for defensive Player of the year. They had Jalen Ramsey,
Speaker 1: who's the best corner of football that year. They had
Speaker 1: a number two in a j Boy. I mean they
Speaker 1: had you know, they had guys and Miles jack at Telvins.
Speaker 1: Meant they had playmakers who made a difference, you know
Speaker 1: inside Malie Jackson and Marcelle dari is Um And so
Speaker 1: that's what the good teams are. You're not gonna have.
Speaker 1: And maybe they had a bunch of them, some older,
Speaker 1: some younger, but you need those great players sprinkled around
Speaker 1: your roster, starting with the quarterback and some you know,
Speaker 1: protect the quarterback, affect the quarterback, and speed on the
Speaker 1: outside on the back half of your defense that can
Speaker 1: make place and can you know, allow you and allows
Speaker 1: you as a coach where there's an offensive coordinator defense
Speaker 1: coordinator to design schemes and to do things that really
Speaker 1: stress a defense or on offense. And I now look
Speaker 1: at this team, Pete, there's there's a bunch of nice
Speaker 1: role players. Maybe could potentially one or two get there,
Speaker 1: but you just don't have enough of them right now.
Speaker 1: And you you mentioned it like playmakers, And let's let's
Speaker 1: go to the Chiefs. Okay, We'll use the Chiefs as
Speaker 1: an example. And by the way, their first round drafting
Speaker 1: hasn't been great either, considering who's on the roster right now.
Speaker 1: But but they have a playmaker in Kelsey. He was
Speaker 1: in the first round pick I think it was a third.
Speaker 1: You have a playmaker. And Tyreek Hill you have clearly
Speaker 1: a playmaker. And Patrick Mahomes it was a first round pick.
Speaker 1: Neither Tyree Hill or Kelsey work. Okay, they paid to
Speaker 1: get him. Yeah, but Chris Jones playmaker right one, the
Speaker 1: first rounder, Frank Clark they paid. They paid to get him,
Speaker 1: Honey Badger, they paid to get him. Those are your playmakers.
Speaker 1: Now you look at their drafting, and this is where
Speaker 1: I goes back to what we always say about the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Here here's their first round picks. Mahomes was in seventeen,
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards Hillier this year. So, but he's he's a playmaker,
Speaker 1: but he's a running back. Marcus Peters no longer there,
Speaker 1: d Ford no longer there, Eric Fisher starting left tackle.
Speaker 1: Then it gets into then then you're back into like
Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve where it really doesn't matter, and
Speaker 1: it was done Terry Poe, so the point is you
Speaker 1: can waste money. Okay, let me stop you there, um,
Speaker 1: And so maybe let me reclassify. Maybe you don't find
Speaker 1: it on the top of the draft, but you have
Speaker 1: to find playmakers somewhere, like you have to find difference makers, right,
Speaker 1: it should be easier on the front end. And yes,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, maybe they're an anomaly, they haven't hit on
Speaker 1: the front end whatever, but you know what they've done.
Speaker 1: They found playmakers in the draft and in free agency
Speaker 1: that make a difference on your roster. And yes they
Speaker 1: have the quarterback that is huge. And guess what. They
Speaker 1: also hit on the right tackle and Mitchell Swords, who's
Speaker 1: not playing as well this year but in the past,
Speaker 1: is one of the better right tackles. I mean, they've
Speaker 1: hit on pieces that are important to building a football team.
Speaker 1: And they have a great coach and great system, great culture.
Speaker 1: All those things go into it. And so you have
Speaker 1: to find them somewhere. I don't care where you find them,
Speaker 1: finding the draft, find free agency. They gotta be on
Speaker 1: your team. Um. But but also you look at their
Speaker 1: free agent there the first round picks they had, they
Speaker 1: didn't blow any of them. Marcus Peters was a good player,
Speaker 1: they traded him away. D Ford was a good player
Speaker 1: that they got rid of them, they traded away, but
Speaker 1: they were good players and if they were healthy, if
Speaker 1: d Ford was healthy now he'd still be a good player.
Speaker 1: Form you can't miss and basically what you're saying, you
Speaker 1: can't miss those ones. And the Jaguars have missed far
Speaker 1: too many of them. They have more than not and
Speaker 1: that's a problem. You know, they're either just average players
Speaker 1: or they were bad players. You know, very few, you
Speaker 1: know how many in the last you know sinceteen first
Speaker 1: rounders were difference makers one, Yeah, Jalen Ramsey. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: for net for for a year maybe now he wasn't
Speaker 1: consistent enough. No, James Rome is a better player than
Speaker 1: him that you got undrafted. I mean, but if you
Speaker 1: think about that, Pete, there's only one you can't and
Speaker 1: and this is a team that's consistently drafted in the top. Now,
Speaker 1: the book is still out on Josh Allen, so we'll
Speaker 1: wait and see. Very good rookie year This year is
Speaker 1: kind of you know, right off because of injuries and
Speaker 1: all the things that went on. Um, so maybe he
Speaker 1: is as well. C. J. Henderson way too early, Um,
Speaker 1: Jason On way too early. So we'll wait and see
Speaker 1: what those guys developed into. But the bottom line is
Speaker 1: the bigger story than anything. As you build your team,
Speaker 1: you have to have whatever your system is gonna be,
Speaker 1: and you have to have a conviction like this is
Speaker 1: who we're gonna build bet and then we're gonna build
Speaker 1: a team based on that skill set. You know, if
Speaker 1: you had to say right now, though, you'd say C. J.
Speaker 1: Henderson has a chance to be a difference maker, but
Speaker 1: you haven't seen that from Chase On at all. Zero fair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. And so at the end of
Speaker 1: the days, you know, you and I joke about all
Speaker 1: the time, it's about Jimmy's and Joe's, not xs and os.
Speaker 1: And really, when you get it right, it's about Jimmy's
Speaker 1: and Joe's that fit the XS and o's that the
Speaker 1: coach is trying to call. And how often do we
Speaker 1: see in this in the in this league where you
Speaker 1: have a coaching staff that wants to do X, Y
Speaker 1: and Z whatever their scheme is, but they don't have
Speaker 1: the players that match what they're trying to accomplish. And
Speaker 1: that's the other problems. And you go to the Packers,
Speaker 1: and Packers are one of the better teams in the league.
Speaker 1: Go to their playmakers. You have Adams, you have Aaron Jones,
Speaker 1: you have Rogers. Clearly you have on defense Alexander. Alexander
Speaker 1: corner they can run. Is a difference maker because he
Speaker 1: allows you to go one on one with the better
Speaker 1: defensive end and you can you can slide away, you
Speaker 1: can do different things. So there's you have to have
Speaker 1: guys who are top in and it really comes down
Speaker 1: to we're football is the ultimate team sport. It also
Speaker 1: comes down to the one on one matchups. And I've
Speaker 1: told this story before and Tom used to do it
Speaker 1: the night before a game a lot of times and
Speaker 1: he would start going through it's, you know, the one
Speaker 1: on one matchups. It's you know, Jimmy Smith versus Ty
Speaker 1: Law and Ricardo against you know, you know whoever and
Speaker 1: Selling against Smith and like literally go down. And the
Speaker 1: point was this, but yes, it's a team game, but
Speaker 1: you have to have dudes who can win one on one.
Speaker 1: When it's all said and done, we ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: We're gonna line up and can your left tackle boxton
Speaker 1: right defensive end one on one? Not trying to scheme
Speaker 1: everything and change everything just to get it done. You
Speaker 1: might have to do that in certain situations, but you
Speaker 1: can't do it for everybody. At some point, you have
Speaker 1: to have guys on your roster you can win. You
Speaker 1: can get it done when it matters, and you need
Speaker 1: more guys on this team that can win one on one.
Speaker 1: Be just we're better. You mentioned it from a left
Speaker 1: tackle standpoint. You know, if you don't have to chip
Speaker 1: and help and everything, you win one on one. It
Speaker 1: helps you if you have if your word is good
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Speaker 1: got it right here here town. I never got nominated
Speaker 1: for that I don't know my radio show. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but they loved your show. You're a hit up here, Pete,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know I was, but but they
Speaker 1: But I think people hated me. Well you know I was.
Speaker 1: I was. I was dark day to remember. Melissa Ross
Speaker 1: is on there, very accomplished. Brent Martineau, Rich Jones, and
Speaker 1: Mark Kay and don't know two of them. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: those folks have been around it for a long time.
Speaker 1: So that's a tough field because his head will explode
Speaker 1: if he wins. I don't know about that. I don't know. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Vote for a happy hour, that's the that's the promo.
Speaker 1: Vote for happy for sure. For sure. Mike Glennan got
Speaker 1: to start yesterday and turned it over three times, two interceptions,
Speaker 1: on a fumble, and he's going to start next week.
Speaker 1: Doug Maron said that they're gonna give him, get him
Speaker 1: trying to get him back on track next week. And
Speaker 1: you know, at this point is flour to go. Um,
Speaker 1: you know that that's what's gonna be. Mike Glennon. They
Speaker 1: still feel gives them the best chance to go win
Speaker 1: a football game. Pete, I think the ship has sailed
Speaker 1: on Gardner Minshew, he was benched. It could talk all
Speaker 1: you want about the thumb injury. He was benched. They
Speaker 1: don't want to play it. They like Mike Glennon better.
Speaker 1: Mike Glennon will be there corbye. I will be astounded
Speaker 1: if Gardner mins who plays another starts another game for
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Astounded barring an injury. You guys agree with me.
Speaker 1: We already was injured once. Yeah, or the thumb right,
Speaker 1: Remember he's saying, what's gonna happened? But Pete, your point
Speaker 1: is that outside an injury to Glennon or Luton or somebody,
Speaker 1: that that uh Gardener is not starting again. Correct? You
Speaker 1: got you know, I put my my tentacles up and
Speaker 1: I was like a real leary and wondering about the
Speaker 1: whole injured thumb story to begin with. But I never
Speaker 1: believed it. I mean, maybe maybe his thumb was banged up,
Speaker 1: but I think he was benched and and and you
Speaker 1: guys have heard the same thing too, so I know
Speaker 1: you know that. Um. And if that's the case, then
Speaker 1: why would they go back to him? Um? It's just
Speaker 1: who I think this is a week to week I
Speaker 1: really do. I don't think I don't think Doug has
Speaker 1: a real salt, you know, solidified on any guy at
Speaker 1: that quarterback position right now. And I think he I
Speaker 1: do believe he thinks that Glenning gives me the best
Speaker 1: chance right now. I do think the organization, at least
Speaker 1: from a coaching staff, has soured on Gardner Minshew for
Speaker 1: whatever reason. Um. And so he's not good, that's the
Speaker 1: reason enough to sour on him. So are you saying
Speaker 1: that if you had to pick a backup right now
Speaker 1: to the three, who would you pay? Probably none? Probably
Speaker 1: what you're saying talking about next year? If you had
Speaker 1: to pick a backup for next year out of those three,
Speaker 1: which one would you pick? I'd probably take Gluten the
Speaker 1: camp and I might get a veteran quarterback, and that
Speaker 1: the other two will be gone probably, And I mean
Speaker 1: if you could find a better backup, but you know
Speaker 1: that it's easier said than done. I mean, if would
Speaker 1: you like to have Andy Dalton shore, but you're not
Speaker 1: gonna pay him to be the backup when you have
Speaker 1: a young I don't think. So we're what kind of
Speaker 1: backup you talking about? Could Mike Glennon be a good
Speaker 1: serviceable backup? Tony Um? Yeah, I think so. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think if you have a young first one Pete. Also,
Speaker 1: what kind of system are you gonna run? I mean,
Speaker 1: if you I mean, if you're like I'll give you
Speaker 1: a for example, if you're gonna run something like Shanahan
Speaker 1: or Kubiak run where you're doing a bunch of boots
Speaker 1: and moving the pocket. Is Glenning the best guy for that?
Speaker 1: Probably not? No, So then you probably wouldn't. You might
Speaker 1: want to go to Maybe Gardner would be better in
Speaker 1: that case because he can move around and do things.
Speaker 1: Go find someone else. But whoever it is, because you're
Speaker 1: getting the young quarterback you want to. I believe you
Speaker 1: want a veteran who understands his role is there is
Speaker 1: to help this young kid get better. It's not to
Speaker 1: take his job. It's not to compete with him. It's
Speaker 1: trying to help him get better and be ready if
Speaker 1: he can't if something happens to him. By the way,
Speaker 1: in the history of the Jaguars history, have you ever
Speaker 1: seen a player, or mania or passion or craziness about
Speaker 1: a player fall off so fast? Ever? Anybody? Can you
Speaker 1: think about it, Tony, think about the history of this team.
Speaker 1: Anybody that was way up here in the eyes of
Speaker 1: the fan base, who went way down here. That's a
Speaker 1: tough one. Now, that's a tough one. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that that was a fast rise and the mania and
Speaker 1: and kudos to the kid because he basked in it all.
Speaker 1: But it is the kid has come crashing down. I
Speaker 1: do think it's one of the issues that we have,
Speaker 1: and maybe it's across the NFL, but because of the
Speaker 1: way that social media, the media operates and fans, we
Speaker 1: anoint people way too quickly, I mean way too quickly.
Speaker 1: That I mean, you just can't do it, and also
Speaker 1: bury people too quickly. To Tony true, I I don't
Speaker 1: disagree with that. Let's talk about the anointing because and
Speaker 1: I think you do a disservice to the individual when
Speaker 1: you anoint them that quickly. Like let them just like
Speaker 1: go through, like just go through, like let's find out
Speaker 1: what you are and let's like try to limit the
Speaker 1: distraction and limit all the noise for a young player
Speaker 1: and let them learn to be a pro and let
Speaker 1: them earn the right or the moniker as a top player. Um,
Speaker 1: and that just doesn't happen. Um. Maybe it's because social media,
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. Maybe it's maybe doesn't happen other places.
Speaker 1: You know better Pete than I do. Um, And yes,
Speaker 1: we do bury people way too quickly too. You brought
Speaker 1: up a guy you know earlier in the show They
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. They had buried him right, And the last
Speaker 1: two years he's been really good rushing the pastor yeah,
Speaker 1: And some positions take longer than others, you know. I'll
Speaker 1: give you an example. The way the game is played nowadays,
Speaker 1: you're usually gonna see production out of a rookie receiver
Speaker 1: right away. Usually would you agree, ricky receiver? Um? Nowadays? Yes,
Speaker 1: Remember in the old days you wouldn't take yeah, But
Speaker 1: nowadays it's different. Nowadays you'd say yes. But pass rushers
Speaker 1: can take a little time. That's why when we when
Speaker 1: we talk about Chase on it might take him a
Speaker 1: little time. Uh, certain guys take a little time. By
Speaker 1: the way, I don't worry about the offense. I thought
Speaker 1: the line played pretty good other than the left tackle.
Speaker 1: Again off the TV. Now, I don't know, Tony, you
Speaker 1: watch the tape, but do he look like he struggled? Hey,
Speaker 1: let's come back. We'll get that thought when we come back.
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Speaker 1: M Yeah, I I went in to the game. We
Speaker 1: like our matchup. You know, we're worried about to cut
Speaker 1: back run, you know, with with Cook, and we were
Speaker 1: worried about you know, he's the type of player that
Speaker 1: could take in a thought on linebackers came downhill. I
Speaker 1: thought the guys up front, uh, you know, played with
Speaker 1: good leverage. I think that you know, they were penetrating.
Speaker 1: They were obviously doing a very good job on um,
Speaker 1: you know, on the quarterback, you know, affecting him, moving him,
Speaker 1: you know, off the spot, um, you know, getting hands up.
Speaker 1: You know. I thought, you know, it's unfortunately thought we
Speaker 1: could have had a couple of more tips or tip
Speaker 1: balls in that, but um, you know, the effort that
Speaker 1: they played was you know, that's the way they've been
Speaker 1: playing all year. I just think that, you know, the
Speaker 1: matchup was good. They were ready to go. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: they were excited to get up there, and you know
Speaker 1: they did some really good things. Welcome in second hour
Speaker 1: of Jaguars Happy Hour. That's head coach Doug Moron after
Speaker 1: the game yesterday discussing the defensive line play against the
Speaker 1: Vikings in a seven twenty four overtime loss for the Jags.
Speaker 1: It's number eleven in a row. Mike Glenner on the
Speaker 1: offensive side turned it over a bunch four turnovers for
Speaker 1: the day, and the safety as well. In the game.
Speaker 1: The Jags defense, as you heard, they're fought, but Cousins
Speaker 1: Jefferson and Cooke did just enough for the Vikings and
Speaker 1: they took advantage of those takeaways. And now coming up
Speaker 1: this week, the Jaguars are back home in the division
Speaker 1: to face the first place Tennessee Titans, and we'll see
Speaker 1: you know, it was as Doug Bron said, there, guys,
Speaker 1: and we talked about it in the first hour. Tony,
Speaker 1: you especially, you went into the game talking about that
Speaker 1: matchup up front. It was a good matchup and and
Speaker 1: Doug knew that as well, and it showed a little
Speaker 1: bit in the game yesterday. Yeah, just remind, just remind
Speaker 1: Logs on Thursday because he pooh pooed my assessment on
Speaker 1: our pregame show. Consider it considerate, don Let's bring that
Speaker 1: up because and I agree do talk. The front seven
Speaker 1: did a good job. They won the battle, and they
Speaker 1: controlled the line of scrimmage that pushed the pocket, and
Speaker 1: they cousin I'm comfortable at times all the things he said,
Speaker 1: I agree with the hundred per cent. Now, with that said,
Speaker 1: the test becomes even harder this week because now you
Speaker 1: have a physical team coming in and the worst thing
Speaker 1: that could possibly happen was Brown's blowing out the Titans
Speaker 1: and the Colts winning because now they're tied for first
Speaker 1: and it's like any I don't think they had to
Speaker 1: overlooked the Jaguars anyways, because the game was pretty close
Speaker 1: up in Nashville and is a division opponent. But now,
Speaker 1: I mean rabel is going to have their attention and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be you know, um, I think a very
Speaker 1: detailed week for the Tennessee Titans, knowing where they sit
Speaker 1: in the playoff hunt to win the division. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Derrick Henry didn't get a bunch of carries
Speaker 1: last week. They did not have a good week at all.
Speaker 1: And boy, it's it's it's I guess it's a dangerous
Speaker 1: game because I think that Tennessee is gonna come in
Speaker 1: very motive, motivated, very focused. Just attack Brion Borders. You
Speaker 1: get a lot of big plays against them. And you
Speaker 1: guys remember him in Jacksonville, right he was He was
Speaker 1: torched on Sunday. Oh my gosh. I had a rough
Speaker 1: go of it. They're bad on defense. They can't rush
Speaker 1: the passer at all. Zero And now you know Clowney
Speaker 1: didn't get any sacks all year anyways, but he's gone
Speaker 1: for the year. It's a bad team. And you know,
Speaker 1: I want to get back to the Vikings game real quick, Tony.
Speaker 1: I meant it before the break about the offensive line.
Speaker 1: Am I wrong? But watching the TV table by Cam
Speaker 1: Robinson had some struggles, um, Keith. I haven't up into
Speaker 1: the All twenty two yet, but I made the comment
Speaker 1: after the game, and I made it this warning. Um,
Speaker 1: just the inconsistency. I mean, when you like when it
Speaker 1: matters the most, just not getting it done. I thought
Speaker 1: they're soft edges again. I thought John Taylor had a
Speaker 1: couple as well, um, And that was not a good
Speaker 1: defensive front. They were facing the Vikings. That's not a
Speaker 1: group that rushes the pastor very well at all. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean I just the last three or
Speaker 1: four weeks. I don't think the consistency has been there
Speaker 1: with Cam or Juwan m either tackle, which is frustrating
Speaker 1: because I think they both have the ability to do it.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a tough decision for whoever is running
Speaker 1: that team on him, it really is. I know you
Speaker 1: don't want to leave a vacancy at left tackle, but boy,
Speaker 1: oh boy, if that money gets a little high, I
Speaker 1: don't know how you sit there and you say I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna pay him to get that production. I mean
Speaker 1: it was I don't know. It's a tough decision to make.
Speaker 1: And if this is the ceiling in a contract year,
Speaker 1: then you got even more problems, right and Bucky Brooks
Speaker 1: on Wednesday on Happy Hours said that it's a relatively
Speaker 1: deep tackle class and so maybe you go draft a guy.
Speaker 1: You'd have to draft him with that second first round pick,
Speaker 1: which means you're not drafting defense. But you could spend
Speaker 1: money on defense. I think there's guys you can There's
Speaker 1: nobody in free agency at left tackle. You should spend
Speaker 1: money on nobody, So you might be able to spend
Speaker 1: that money on defense and then come back and try
Speaker 1: and draft a left tackle. But Tony would know better
Speaker 1: than anybody. How hard is it for a rookie left
Speaker 1: tackle to step in and play? I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas and the Giants struggled earlier in the year,
Speaker 1: he started to play really well. You know, Beckton's been
Speaker 1: really good. H Wills. You saw Wills last week, Tony.
Speaker 1: He's a good, solid player. And who was the fourth
Speaker 1: one that was drafted in the first round but Tampa. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's been really good. And so how hard is
Speaker 1: it for a rookie left tackle to step in and play?
Speaker 1: If you have a rookie quarterback, is that tough? It
Speaker 1: depends how good the rookie left tackle is they're picking
Speaker 1: him twenty It just depends. I mean, some guys can
Speaker 1: step in and get it time. I mean, look at
Speaker 1: um Oh gosh, what was the kid? What's the kid
Speaker 1: into the right tackle up in? Uh No, nor Legans
Speaker 1: a kid for Wisconsin. They got drafted late in the
Speaker 1: first round and it was a Day one starter and
Speaker 1: did a good job. So I mean, it just depends
Speaker 1: on who the guy is. And I mean that's what
Speaker 1: the evaluation. And I have not looked at the draft
Speaker 1: in depth this year and where you know, you know
Speaker 1: who's good and who's not, and what what kind of
Speaker 1: depth do you have an offensive tackle. It's not just
Speaker 1: depth at one position, it's also if you have a
Speaker 1: lack of depth at other positions, then you start getting
Speaker 1: runs on the positions that are deemed sometimes, so um,
Speaker 1: you know, to look at the whole thing. I agree
Speaker 1: with you, and I don't think it's an easy decision. Um.
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what would I wonder what Cam
Speaker 1: Robinson would get if he goes into the open market,
Speaker 1: because there's not a lot of free agents out there
Speaker 1: that can play left tackle. What is it he's going
Speaker 1: to get overpaid? Yeah, I think you might be right.
Speaker 1: That's the nature of the Beasts. Yeah, yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: happens in free agency typically seventeen a year. I mean
Speaker 1: he's played, he's played to that this year, but he's
Speaker 1: been awful before this year. Yeah, this is the first year. Like,
Speaker 1: and I haven't watched many games this year, but in
Speaker 1: the past I was like, he has no rear end
Speaker 1: and gets pushed back and it's not physical, and I
Speaker 1: just did not see it. I never saw it. Coming
Speaker 1: out of college at the University of Utah for a
Speaker 1: first rounder. But I've heard, I've not seen it that
Speaker 1: he's played better this year. And I think what they
Speaker 1: basically John I always said, is like listen, you know,
Speaker 1: we know him. He's playing consistent, he's gotten bed are
Speaker 1: under mun Check is a really good offensive line coach
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. And at seventeen million dollars
Speaker 1: a year, and if you look at the cap numbers,
Speaker 1: pet you don't if you looked at it, pretty favorable
Speaker 1: to the team the first couple of years to probably
Speaker 1: give you some flexibility if it doesn't work out. I'm
Speaker 1: not I mean good guaranteed money, but not off the charts.
Speaker 1: So the bottom line is the CAP's going up. If
Speaker 1: it goes up again this year, premium positions are gonna
Speaker 1: get paid, and left tackles the premium position. There's just
Speaker 1: not a lot of people can do it at a
Speaker 1: high level. So you know, it's interesting week. I give
Speaker 1: you credit for this because you talk about it all
Speaker 1: the line, about all the time about being strong on
Speaker 1: the offensive defensive lines. When you look around the league
Speaker 1: at the best teams go through their offensive lines. And
Speaker 1: in Kansas City, when when Mitchell Schwartz is there has
Speaker 1: two pretty good tackles and the line is good enough,
Speaker 1: but he helps compensate for that. But for the most part,
Speaker 1: the Saints have a really good offensive line. The Browns
Speaker 1: have a good offensive line. The Steelers line hasn't played
Speaker 1: up to it put on paper it should be better
Speaker 1: than what it is. Well, and they're they're gonna fucking
Speaker 1: not good run blockers right now, right and and so
Speaker 1: go around. I mean, you go around the league. The
Speaker 1: good teams, Packers, good offensive line. I mean, the good
Speaker 1: teams have good offensive lines. You gotta you gotta be
Speaker 1: able to have those guys up there where you can
Speaker 1: sit back there and do whatever you want when you
Speaker 1: want to and be I'm I don't want to oversimplify this,
Speaker 1: but I prefer believer after the quarterback. This This is
Speaker 1: a big man's game, and big men win football games
Speaker 1: for you. And that means it's a pretty simple game
Speaker 1: at the end of a minute. If you can block
Speaker 1: and you can tackle, you're gonna be successful. Now, you
Speaker 1: need speed on the back half. Um, you need explosive
Speaker 1: players at your skill set. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to diminish those guys, but there's
Speaker 1: more of those guys out there in the world. There
Speaker 1: just is, there's always so many big athletic men on
Speaker 1: planet Earth. They're not easy to find. And so when
Speaker 1: you find them, you gotta keep them. You have to
Speaker 1: develop them, you gotta pay them. And so I mean,
Speaker 1: to me, it's about controlling the line of scrimmage. It's
Speaker 1: protecting the quarterback. It's affecting the quarterback. It's running the ball,
Speaker 1: it's stopping the run. I mean, that's what you have
Speaker 1: to be able to do if you want to win consistently,
Speaker 1: assuming you have the quarterback. Let's I mean, that's why
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I worry about the Steelers in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I don't think they can run the ball. And I'm
Speaker 1: just not seeing any team very often. I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: happened to history that can't run the ball win a championship.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's heavy run run. First, You're gonna
Speaker 1: look at the Chiefs. The Chiefs can run the ball.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is now, they can run the ball because
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes threatens the defense so much. You get good,
Speaker 1: you get a week box because you're spread out. You know,
Speaker 1: you have man from man. So it's a favorable offensive set.
Speaker 1: But they can run the ball. They have a good
Speaker 1: offensive line, good offensive line coach, good scheme, you know,
Speaker 1: with what Eric Bannemy and Andy Reid do, and they
Speaker 1: run the ball. You have to be able to run
Speaker 1: the ball in this league, especially in the playoffs, if
Speaker 1: you want to win. But you're right, you do have
Speaker 1: to run the ball. But you also have to be
Speaker 1: able to do something that Tennessee didn't do yesterday. I
Speaker 1: don't think when your game plan gets away from you
Speaker 1: and everything you built your offense on, which is Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry Ken, Ryan Tammy, he'll be the guy to put
Speaker 1: it on his shoulders and take over the quarterback quarterback quarterback.
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about the Steelers. I worry about the
Speaker 1: Steelers this year in the playoffs because they can't run
Speaker 1: the ball effectively. They just have it all year. Go
Speaker 1: look at their numbers, it's there, their attrocans. Right, you
Speaker 1: have to be able to run the ball when you
Speaker 1: need to run the ball. Right, doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: the top rank rushing offensive league when you need to
Speaker 1: run the ball, and the way you do that is
Speaker 1: with an offensive line. Agree, And so I mean you
Speaker 1: gotta build offensive defensive lines once you get the quarterback,
Speaker 1: and then go find a bunch of fast people easy
Speaker 1: and don't let them go easy, don't let them go Yeah,
Speaker 1: keep them around, keep them around. Easier said than done
Speaker 1: sometimes as well. Let's come back and socially made a
Speaker 1: play already for the Steelers. Oh yeah, the Steelers game
Speaker 1: is on. That's right, Monday Night Football for us, five o'clock.
Speaker 1: We're already into the game. That's Jacksonville. Got I got
Speaker 1: it onto Direct TV package? Oh yeah, nothing, nothing scored
Speaker 1: twelve thirty to play. First quarter. By the way, Washington,
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Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli the day after
Speaker 1: an overtime loss, the eleventh straight loss for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1: And this is the time of the show each week
Speaker 1: where we dig into the mail bag. Actually we go
Speaker 1: to social media. It's not really a mail bag. You
Speaker 1: were replied to a tweet. We put the bat signal
Speaker 1: out early, and we take the best question. Are the
Speaker 1: best answers? Let's just get to the stupid first question.
Speaker 1: Best question? Yeah, yeah, let's just get to it. Number
Speaker 1: one at sick What a is Chart a number one receiver?
Speaker 1: Or do we need to get one along with the
Speaker 1: quarterback next year? Yeah? What how about Chart yesterday? His
Speaker 1: totals in yesterday's game. Let's see seven targets, two catches,
Speaker 1: forty one yards. You're not a good target to catch ratio,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Um, Like, first of all, we throw
Speaker 1: these terms around guys like is he a number one receiver? Like? Okay,
Speaker 1: what is somebody? Like? Yeah? Like like are you talking?
Speaker 1: Is he like Julio Jones or Davante Adams or one
Speaker 1: of those guys. No, could he be? I I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is he a guy who can win? I think he
Speaker 1: can win outside I think if you I think he
Speaker 1: is a starter in the NFL. I mean, go around
Speaker 1: the league and tell me like, no, you know what, Okay,
Speaker 1: here here's the perfect example. We have a team that's
Speaker 1: tenan oh, right now, it's gonna be I was just
Speaker 1: gonna say, where's their number one receiver? Where's the number
Speaker 1: one receiver? There? There isn't one. They got three pretty
Speaker 1: good ones and not a number one. That's okay, I'm
Speaker 1: at last. You're the Super Bowl runner up? Sassin is
Speaker 1: where's their number? Who is their number one receiver? Last year?
Speaker 1: Manuel Sanders? And he was just average at that? Is
Speaker 1: he at number one? Like? Is he? Like? Could DJ
Speaker 1: Chark be that? Yeses? Yeah, Um, now are there the
Speaker 1: number one? Michael Thomas yes, Julio Jones, yes, Davante Adams yes,
Speaker 1: absolutely there Hopkins? Was is he anymore? That's a legitimate
Speaker 1: question after yesterday? Maybe not? Okay, how about the ram
Speaker 1: they have bona fide number one? They got they got
Speaker 1: two really good ones. Yeah, two really good players are
Speaker 1: they like? Would they say, hey, we're gonna design and spect.
Speaker 1: He could be line up and just take over a
Speaker 1: game type of guy. DJ metcalf is a number one.
Speaker 1: He's turning into one, that's for sure. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: it's the wrong question not to I understand the question
Speaker 1: from the individual. I'm not saying it's a bad question.
Speaker 1: It's not the question. I'd be asking. Can d B
Speaker 1: a part of a winning offense? Can he be? Can
Speaker 1: he be a starting X receiver, the outside receiver on
Speaker 1: the single side uh in a system? And I say yes,
Speaker 1: I do believe he can be the other part. Would
Speaker 1: you go get one next year anyway? No, I have
Speaker 1: so many other needs. I think when you look at
Speaker 1: their group, if Colin Johnson gets a little more seasoning,
Speaker 1: whether it's from Keenan or whoever. Because I think if
Speaker 1: I was a coach hired in Jackson, I'd consider keeping Keenan.
Speaker 1: I think Keenan is a good receiver's coach, but you know,
Speaker 1: a year of learning how to run rautes better. I
Speaker 1: think Colin Johnson has some impressive physical stuff. Chennault is
Speaker 1: a physical player, and you have Chark. I mean that's
Speaker 1: a good group. It's not like you said, Tony, it's
Speaker 1: not look at the Steelers. That group has the potential
Speaker 1: to be a good group like that. Not a great group,
Speaker 1: but a good group. So I pete, would you go
Speaker 1: get a guy like Jujuice and Mr Schuster who's gonna
Speaker 1: be a free agent probably get ten million bucks here? No?
Speaker 1: Hell no. In fact, he just dropped a pass on
Speaker 1: third and Test. So I would not. I would. I mean,
Speaker 1: the one thing I would consider if you could find
Speaker 1: a true deep threat, you know, and and Shark has
Speaker 1: some of that. But you know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: the the Tyreek Kill take the top Henry Ruggs. You
Speaker 1: saw what he did yesterday, the guy that could just
Speaker 1: scare the daylights at he with his deep speed, dark
Speaker 1: and run. He flew at the combine. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know what, you know what I'm talking about. Though, There's okay,
Speaker 1: Shark can fly, but he doesn't run like Tyreek Hill does.
Speaker 1: Even if he does, but even find Tyreek Hill. Wow,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about there? You know exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think receivers the priority that
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to find it. No, they need
Speaker 1: a tight end though, all right, for right he laid out,
Speaker 1: I mean really good catch al right. Next question from
Speaker 1: the same person, in fact, sick with Tavan had sixteen
Speaker 1: reps yesterday. Is his time in Jacksonville over? Yes? I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean bring him I mean he's under contract. Next
Speaker 1: year's guaranteed. He's the first rounder, so bring back to camp.
Speaker 1: This is what three for him? Yeah? So you almost? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Bring I mean seeming an earnest spot. I mean maybe
Speaker 1: if he has a good preseason you can trade him
Speaker 1: for something. I mean I don't know, but yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: is his time over? I'm not counting on I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be counting on him to be a starter. But he's
Speaker 1: under contract. You're gonna bring it back to camp? I mean,
Speaker 1: what is it? What do you get for him in
Speaker 1: Turkey sandwich, ham sandwich, roast, pef sandwich on Ryan? I
Speaker 1: mean not a lot. Probably, I'm gonna look up his
Speaker 1: contract and see what what what you you can get
Speaker 1: out of it in the first round. They're all guaranteed. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: but it's seven dollars, isn't No, what would it be?
Speaker 1: Would be? Uh? Yeah? Seven is guaranteed? Salary next year
Speaker 1: is seven thousand dollars. So you've already eating You've already
Speaker 1: eaten up the guaranteed money you gave him, the bonus
Speaker 1: you save, I think you're saving, yeah, about a million bucks.
Speaker 1: I think if you get rid of them, they'll get
Speaker 1: rid of them. So there you go. There's the answer.
Speaker 1: Our next question from at Riley Kendrick. This is the
Speaker 1: most confusing season ever. I am both actively cheering for
Speaker 1: them to win and lose. I really hope the right
Speaker 1: GM is hired to make this season quote unquote worth it.
Speaker 1: Your weekly show is the only Jags thing I look
Speaker 1: forward to. Keep it up. Boys. I don't see a
Speaker 1: question there, but I like the comment thank you and
Speaker 1: yesterday And yesterday was a good day for a guy
Speaker 1: like that. They played competitively, they went to overtime, they
Speaker 1: got the two point conversion. You had a little excitement,
Speaker 1: and they still lost. That's that's the win. That's a
Speaker 1: win win, that's the for a guy who's agonizing like that,
Speaker 1: that's the greatest scenario of them all. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, but it's no fun being a fan like that,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, but it's no no fun. It's
Speaker 1: also no fun, Okay, I'm gonna give you an example,
Speaker 1: Arizona states, oh and two they stink they're playing exhibition games.
Speaker 1: I don't care. Why would I mean, it's all about
Speaker 1: next year. Why would you care about this year? It's
Speaker 1: over with. No. I get that's a fair part. I agree,
Speaker 1: that's all about next year for the fans. But if
Speaker 1: you're a fan who's been doing this for the better
Speaker 1: part of a decade plus outside of one year, they
Speaker 1: went to the playoffs in seventeen, correct, yes, and before
Speaker 1: that was eight nine the last time they Okay, so
Speaker 1: since two thousand eight, which is thirteen seasons they've been
Speaker 1: to the playoff one time, there's a fan you're exhausted,
Speaker 1: and I get that, and so what he's saying there's like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be thinking about next year every year,
Speaker 1: and so um, your points right, But it's not fun, No,
Speaker 1: it's it's I mean, if you're a fan, it's agonizing,
Speaker 1: and that's why you want to be so excited about
Speaker 1: next year. You want to that's why you would love
Speaker 1: to have seen the Jets win, because then there's the optimism.
Speaker 1: It's the same as the teams that have the quarterbacks solved.
Speaker 1: You have excitement for next year our Next question at
Speaker 1: Bootlegged Human. Has the defense been playing better since the buye?
Speaker 1: If so, how much better? Or am I just a
Speaker 1: hopeless Jags fan looking for a light at the end
Speaker 1: of the tunnel? Yeah, I mean I think you look
Speaker 1: at I think we have been playing better. Um, I
Speaker 1: think Todd Wash continues to throw everything in the kitchen
Speaker 1: sink at the teams change. Who looks up? You know,
Speaker 1: created Blitzer is blitzing more than he probably would like to,
Speaker 1: overloading size, overloading different sides, and in third down. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he's getting really, really, really creative. And I
Speaker 1: think the guys are playing better at the same time
Speaker 1: against the run, so I do think they're getting better.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what light at the end of the
Speaker 1: tunnel the Bootlegged Human is looking for, but they are
Speaker 1: playing better well in this branchise is history. Light at
Speaker 1: the end of the end of the tunnel means the
Speaker 1: trains coming to run. You're over, thanks, Yeah. Next question
Speaker 1: at Eric Harrison asking how much tailoring scheme to players
Speaker 1: does a GM do when making a coaching higher. For example,
Speaker 1: say the new GM desized our defensive talent would best
Speaker 1: for the three four how hard does he press head
Speaker 1: coaching candidates on whether they employ a three four or
Speaker 1: if they'd hire a coordinator who would no, So yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I think the first thing you do is when you're
Speaker 1: n coach, you gotta go find the right leader, the
Speaker 1: right guy who can lead the organization with what happens
Speaker 1: on the football field, and who is going to bring
Speaker 1: in the right staff. And I would say the most
Speaker 1: important thing, and the higher this time, is either getting
Speaker 1: a head coach who has developed young quarterbacks or is
Speaker 1: a head coach who has a plan on the offensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball with bringing his coordinator in, who's
Speaker 1: going to train a young quarterback? That's the most important.
Speaker 1: Whether it's a three four four three, you know whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean. Um, the head coach who comes in, he's
Speaker 1: gonna have a philosophy. Obviously you want to make sure
Speaker 1: it's align. But then it's the job of that GM
Speaker 1: to make sure you go find players that fit the
Speaker 1: scheme of the coach you hire. This is not and
Speaker 1: this is I say it all the time, this isn't
Speaker 1: fantasy football. It's just not a you know, hodgepods of
Speaker 1: grag bag. Let's just go get a bunch of big
Speaker 1: name guys, and you know this this Joe and that
Speaker 1: Joe and this Joe. You have to build to what
Speaker 1: your your your scheme is, what are you trying to accomplish?
Speaker 1: Like so, if it's back in the days of you know,
Speaker 1: Tony Dungee and their Tampa two, well you want physical
Speaker 1: outside corners you can play and run support. If it's
Speaker 1: you know this Seattle Gus Bradley type of thing, you
Speaker 1: need long corners who can run because you're cover three
Speaker 1: team whatever it is. I mean, every team has a scheme.
Speaker 1: If you're you know Mike Kyle Shanahan and it's or
Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak and you're an inside outside zone boot uh
Speaker 1: concept with the quarterback who's gonna move? You better have
Speaker 1: a mobile quarterback who can move a little bit and
Speaker 1: move the pocket. And you need offensive lignement or athletic
Speaker 1: or on the more athletics side, um and so. And
Speaker 1: there's different schemes and different philosophies and whatever they are,
Speaker 1: you can, by the way, you can win with them all.
Speaker 1: I always love like, hey, because some team won with
Speaker 1: the three four, let's go be a three four team.
Speaker 1: Well guess what next year of four three is gonna win,
Speaker 1: and like, hey, let's go be a spread, you know
Speaker 1: type of team because they just want to super Bowl.
Speaker 1: We'll guess what next week here, it's gonna be some
Speaker 1: you know, run heavy team that's gonna win the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: All these schemes, it's about getting the right players that
Speaker 1: fit the scheme and the convictions your head coach has.
Speaker 1: That's how you build it um and that's a bit critical.
Speaker 1: But for this team, the most important the higher of
Speaker 1: that coach. He has to have a plan of how
Speaker 1: he's going to develop that young quarterback. That is the
Speaker 1: most important thing. Right Well, if you're hiring Matt Rule
Speaker 1: to be your head coach, go get Joe Brady to
Speaker 1: develop your offense. That that that's if you hire a
Speaker 1: defensive coach, you gotta find out who he's gonna hire
Speaker 1: and you fit. You know, Look, let the coach take
Speaker 1: his players and build his thing the way he wants
Speaker 1: to build it. And so if you get a four
Speaker 1: three coach and he comes in here, what do you
Speaker 1: do with Chason That's up to the coach. He's gonna
Speaker 1: have to figure out a way to get him on
Speaker 1: the field and play him on the field. If he
Speaker 1: doesn't fit as a down defensive end. It did sound
Speaker 1: a little bit like a campaign speech there, Pete Tony, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's a kid, it's not a campaign. We're we're gonna
Speaker 1: get buttons made. That's that's not fair for you to
Speaker 1: say that. I gotta asked the question. Anything I said.
Speaker 1: You disagree with what I said? No, you're accurate. But
Speaker 1: it was no, No, it was a great answer. Great
Speaker 1: from a media member. It was a great answer. But
Speaker 1: as a campaign speech it would work. There you go,
Speaker 1: that's my point exactly, but according to you, the media,
Speaker 1: media member, So that was just a media It was
Speaker 1: a great It was a great answer, but it can
Speaker 1: also be construed by a lot of people out there
Speaker 1: as a campaign speech. Don't construe it as anything but
Speaker 1: my belinks of what now I answered the question, but
Speaker 1: silly boat, no, don't do that. It's not funny. First
Speaker 1: of all, if I was kind of the question first,
Speaker 1: how would you have answered it the exact same way?
Speaker 1: I agree with our next question? Shut up next question,
Speaker 1: and you look, we're gonna use I'm gonna use an
Speaker 1: example to offensive linemen are different than other teams. Offensive
Speaker 1: lineman it's like the old Broncos lineman. They were different.
Speaker 1: They didn't want They wanted an athletic guys who can move,
Speaker 1: guys who can get out and pull and play on
Speaker 1: the back side and all that. It's different. You want,
Speaker 1: you want to cater your guys to what you need,
Speaker 1: but you also can't just say, Okay, this is my
Speaker 1: my system. We hired this guy to be the head coach. Now,
Speaker 1: let's draft based on what you know, based on what
Speaker 1: we have. I think everybody wants their own guys, but
Speaker 1: sometimes you inherit guys and you have to try and
Speaker 1: make it work a little bit as well. Absolutely, I
Speaker 1: mean that's what I mean. The best coaches, Peter good teachers.
Speaker 1: Justine Smith. Remember Justin Smith was played for the forty niners.
Speaker 1: He assumed a new role with them, but he was
Speaker 1: great that He was a defensive end in Cincinnati first
Speaker 1: round pick. Was just okay, and it's a four three
Speaker 1: defensive end. He goes to there are three four team.
Speaker 1: He bulks up getting bigger and stronger because they changed
Speaker 1: his roll to a three or four defensive van which
Speaker 1: by the way, hit him better. And then on third
Speaker 1: down he rushed from a three technique. I mean he was,
Speaker 1: I mean a really good player. Yeah, and it worked
Speaker 1: because you took Kim and fit him and and and
Speaker 1: and found the spot form in your defense. That's right.
Speaker 1: Our next question at Paul w Aldrich. If the Jags
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback early in the first round and we
Speaker 1: keep three, which two of the current guys would you keep?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't keep any of them. I might keep Looten
Speaker 1: just to bring him into camp and see what he
Speaker 1: can do. I'm not I probably wouldn't if I can find. Now,
Speaker 1: you got to find another backup. It's like Tony always says,
Speaker 1: you gotta find a replacement, find somebody. But I would
Speaker 1: try and find a veteran backup, bring him in and
Speaker 1: bring Luton the camp. That's what I would do. I
Speaker 1: think it depends a little bit what kind of system
Speaker 1: or scheme you want to run. I don't know Mike
Speaker 1: Glennon well enough to make a a judgment on it,
Speaker 1: but you want to agree with Pete. You want a
Speaker 1: veteran who understands his role, and his role is to
Speaker 1: help the young guy learn how to play the position
Speaker 1: and be a pro. So which is which, Tony? Which
Speaker 1: is why it can't be? Gardner Mens you. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it'd be really difficult because of what has happened
Speaker 1: over the last couple of months with Gardner for that
Speaker 1: end to assume that role. And by the way, he's
Speaker 1: not a veteran. He doesn't know, he doesn't know what
Speaker 1: he doesn't know, So you think that veteran guy right.
Speaker 1: Our final question from at newly Bill seventy eight played
Speaker 1: a lot yesterday. Can you evaluate his performance? Also? Do
Speaker 1: you think we resigned seventy four this offseason? Seventy eight
Speaker 1: has been BArch seventy four is Cam Robinson. Let's start
Speaker 1: with BArch Um again. I didn't study the tape fully
Speaker 1: um yet today, so uh the quick look at it
Speaker 1: calling the game, I thought it was fine. Um. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you from what I've seen so far this year,
Speaker 1: he has a lot of work to do, especially in
Speaker 1: the past pro um. He needs, you know, he needs
Speaker 1: to get better. He needs offseason to get stronger, he
Speaker 1: needs an offseason, um of camp and preseason to get reps.
Speaker 1: Um A lot to ask for Division three football player
Speaker 1: come in with no preseason, limited off season, and to
Speaker 1: try to go and play at this level. So um,
Speaker 1: he's a project. Um. I think they probably brought him
Speaker 1: in with the hopes that he could be the starter
Speaker 1: next year for at one of the guard positions. From
Speaker 1: what I've seen so far, there's four more games. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have the confidence to say, hey, he's the guy
Speaker 1: we can get rid of the well as far as
Speaker 1: seventy we talked about it. That's Cam Robinson. Um, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a money decision. What's it gonna cost to
Speaker 1: keep him? Um? And can you upgrade that position? If you?
Speaker 1: If you, if you're not, if you're not willing to
Speaker 1: pay the price tag that he wants. You know what, Tony,
Speaker 1: I went back and watched barches tape last week against
Speaker 1: the Browns, and there is a lot of initial pop
Speaker 1: and not a finish because you get straight, but there's
Speaker 1: left there. Yeah, that that's can that be fixed with
Speaker 1: an off season of coaching and reps. Yeah, Because I've
Speaker 1: seen him earlier the year, I thought he had more
Speaker 1: power in the run game and I was pretty impressed
Speaker 1: with it. Um. My issues in the past game or
Speaker 1: anything is is he just does not look comfortable. He
Speaker 1: leans um and so they beat him with you know,
Speaker 1: a speed move or on the edge move. And then
Speaker 1: when he doesn't he gets too high and he gets
Speaker 1: run over, and so he has a lot of work
Speaker 1: to do. Um, he's got a lot of work to do.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he can't do it. I mean
Speaker 1: he's a younger Division three football player last year. Um,
Speaker 1: he's a big human being. So I mean he's por
Speaker 1: excuse me, he's worth an off season getting in the
Speaker 1: weight room and spend time with him and coaching him
Speaker 1: up well if he's if he's one of the positions,
Speaker 1: if he's starting, I think it will be left card
Speaker 1: because I think a j Can has actually played pretty
Speaker 1: well this year. And if you have a lot of money,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You have no camp issues next year. Pete,
Speaker 1: think about this way. If you have a young quarterback,
Speaker 1: let's just say it's justin fields, just because that's the
Speaker 1: where you sit right now. Who knows who ends up being.
Speaker 1: If you have justin fields back there, do you want
Speaker 1: to take a chance with because you want to save
Speaker 1: a few million bucks with a developing left guard, or
Speaker 1: do you want to put a guy in there who's
Speaker 1: been All Pro, who's playing good. By the way, if
Speaker 1: you look at his grades and his numbers and have
Speaker 1: him there at left guard and you have no cap issues.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna affect you one bit and anything you
Speaker 1: do at all, and it's gonna help your young quarterback
Speaker 1: be comfortable and developed. You're gonna be able to have
Speaker 1: a firm procket. That's why right now, I mean listen,
Speaker 1: I my guess is Norwell, Linder and can are all
Speaker 1: back because you can solidify that front, the offensive line
Speaker 1: in front of a young quarterback. I think that's really
Speaker 1: something to think about and it's important. Yeah. No, look,
Speaker 1: I get the middle. If you're gonna keep okay, if
Speaker 1: you're not gonna keep your left tackle, you certainly should
Speaker 1: keep Norawhell because you'd like to have if you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a young left tackle or you'd like to have
Speaker 1: a veteran left guard. I get it. You have a
Speaker 1: because like if there was cap issues, Pete, I get
Speaker 1: what you're saying, then you really have to look at Orel.
Speaker 1: But you have no cap issues, no no, but you
Speaker 1: also need to spend a bunch of that. You also
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind spending some cap room on the other side
Speaker 1: of the ball either, absolutely, And if it became if
Speaker 1: you run into cap issues, then you have to look
Speaker 1: at everything but today, and if the cap goes up
Speaker 1: you probably couldn't wisely spend it all anyways next year, No,
Speaker 1: you couldn't. I mean, what do they have, right? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna look, so if it goes up another
Speaker 1: twenty you're gonna have a hundred five million dollars. You
Speaker 1: can't really spend that. Not if you have a cheap quarterback,
Speaker 1: which is what the first round quarterback will be for
Speaker 1: a couple of years, that you should be able to
Speaker 1: build around that for a while. All Right, there you
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Speaker 1: You know that's the plaet. I'll be repined in my head,
Speaker 1: all NiFe. I would love to have it back um
Speaker 1: so just you know, check them all down there in
Speaker 1: that situation, I was trying to make something happen and uh,
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Speaker 1: That's Mike Lennon, Jaguars quarterback discussing his overtime interception yesterday.
Speaker 1: J P Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli Jaguar has lost
Speaker 1: it over time. It's eleven straight losses for the Jags,
Speaker 1: extending the franchise record in a single season, and four
Speaker 1: games remain. Let's take a look at the ANFC South
Speaker 1: results yesterday and the Colts over the Texas philip Rivers.
Speaker 1: Playing on one foot, the Texans had a chance late
Speaker 1: but they had a bad snap Pete de Ruin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know what, the philip Rivers played well, but
Speaker 1: the Texas defense is terrible. You got you guys know that,
Speaker 1: you've seen them. They're not a good unit. That's not
Speaker 1: a good team. They're done, they're finished, and the Colts
Speaker 1: are tied for first place again. And what do you
Speaker 1: think about the Texans job? I mean, they're gonna hire
Speaker 1: a GM and coach. What do you think about that job?
Speaker 1: I mean, think about this for a second. You have
Speaker 1: you have Deshaun Watson on one hand, and no draft pick,
Speaker 1: capital and everything else on the other. So what's a
Speaker 1: better job Jacksonville or Houston? And by the way, I
Speaker 1: think Deshaun Watson has been phenomenal in the last six games,
Speaker 1: and you know I've been critical of them. So what's
Speaker 1: a better job. One that doesn't have capital and has
Speaker 1: issues or one that has capital and cap room and
Speaker 1: doesn't have the quarterback and you have Watson pick one.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a tough choice. It's a tough choice.
Speaker 1: And I think, um, if you had the first overall pick,
Speaker 1: I think it would be an easy choice because you
Speaker 1: know you're in Trevor Lawrence um and you have all
Speaker 1: the draft cap on everything else. But Deshaun Watson is
Speaker 1: a proven commodity and you know you can play. But
Speaker 1: that's a team with not no draft capital in a
Speaker 1: slow old defense. I mean, they got some issues on
Speaker 1: that side of the ball. So, um, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a tough question. It's it's a debate. But also this
Speaker 1: Tony they've had Deshaun Watson. And but have you ever
Speaker 1: seen them as a legitimate Super Bowl contender? No? But
Speaker 1: have they been good on defense since Deshaun Watson's been there? Well,
Speaker 1: they've been banned on the offensive line, but they ever
Speaker 1: been on defense? Because remember, Deshaun Watson wasn't there during
Speaker 1: the Hey days when they had J J. Watt at
Speaker 1: his prime and Whitney Merciless and Cushing in the back half,
Speaker 1: the Peigners Johnson Joseph and that I mean that he
Speaker 1: wasn't there for that he came in and the years
Speaker 1: he was there, j J was hurt always. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've been a a g defense and they declined defense
Speaker 1: for a while. Um So no, I don't think they've
Speaker 1: been a Super Bowl threat because I don't. And they've
Speaker 1: had a terrible offensive line. So I go back to
Speaker 1: what I said, show it's about offensive get the quarterback
Speaker 1: you have that. They have not been able to fix
Speaker 1: the offensive line under Bill Brian. They didn't draft right,
Speaker 1: they got Tom Sold, They paid a ton of money
Speaker 1: in draft capital. They draft the Howard Sharpen to play guard.
Speaker 1: Those guys their their premium draft picks. They should be
Speaker 1: good on the offensive line. But they well, they're either
Speaker 1: not being coached or they missed right. One of the two,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even know who the offensive
Speaker 1: line coach air is there, so I won't be critical,
Speaker 1: but it's one two. Either missed on him, were not
Speaker 1: being coached. But also I mean, yeah, and and you know,
Speaker 1: we were asking about Jawan taylor regression this year, that
Speaker 1: that he looked like a hit last year. He doesn't
Speaker 1: look like so much of a hit this year, sir.
Speaker 1: He's been inconsistent. Browns over the Titans. Yesterday, big day
Speaker 1: for Baker Mayfield. The Titans got too late touchdowns but
Speaker 1: fell short and Henry was limited because they were down
Speaker 1: so big so early. He only had sixty yards. And
Speaker 1: was that I was a blowout? Yeah, that was terrible.
Speaker 1: They they dominated them from the word get go. They
Speaker 1: just from everything they did. They ran it, they threw it,
Speaker 1: they did whatever they want. They made big or Mayfield
Speaker 1: looked good. And by the way, I didn't think you
Speaker 1: looked good last week against Jackson, but I thought he was.
Speaker 1: He was off, he was inaccurate, and and you know
Speaker 1: even on his passage he completely looked okay. But he
Speaker 1: was good on Sunday against the Titans. And when you
Speaker 1: take the Titans out of who they are, see, that's
Speaker 1: the problem with the Titans, which is why they're not
Speaker 1: a real threat this year. They want to run it,
Speaker 1: control the clock, hit those big shots off of the
Speaker 1: run game. But to do that you have to have
Speaker 1: some sort of defense, and they're terrible on defense. They
Speaker 1: came back and made a seven point game. Basically they
Speaker 1: were six point game. Did they have a chance to
Speaker 1: get the on side? Yeah, they would if they got
Speaker 1: the onside kicked, they would have had a chance. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? I mean they were getting blown out seven. Well,
Speaker 1: the Browns aren't good on defense either. No, So yeah,
Speaker 1: that that one shocked me. I thought that. I thought
Speaker 1: the I thought the Titans will be able to run
Speaker 1: the ball better and that the game it wasn't just
Speaker 1: that the game got away from them. I mean you
Speaker 1: look at the numbers early it was like ten for
Speaker 1: like twenty seven for uh Henry, he never got it
Speaker 1: going early. I'm gonna agree with you on Tony. I
Speaker 1: thought they would be able to run the ball too.
Speaker 1: I thought both teams would run the ball and it
Speaker 1: would be a low scoring game and it will be
Speaker 1: over in two minutes, two hours and thirty minutes. It
Speaker 1: wasn't that alright, So we we know positions three and
Speaker 1: four in the power rankings in the n f C South.
Speaker 1: But how about one and two for you guys. Um,
Speaker 1: I tried to put the Colts at one just because
Speaker 1: the defense is more reliable. Um, I think it's close.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they split the series, but if I
Speaker 1: down the stretch in the playoffs, I just I'm gonna
Speaker 1: bet on the defense of the Colts. The Titans can't
Speaker 1: get off the field. We literally cannot get off the field.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think they're their last in the
Speaker 1: league and third down, I think yeah, And I think
Speaker 1: it'd be harder than the win against good teams week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know the Colts played him without Buckner in
Speaker 1: autry and okay, yay, or the linebacker that those guys,
Speaker 1: those guys, you know Buckner was at forced yesterday. There's
Speaker 1: a big difference on that defense when those guys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I Colts two, yes, absolutely, all right? Do you have
Speaker 1: the Jaguars third? I got the Colt one, Titans two.
Speaker 1: The actual standings Tennessee one at eight and four. They
Speaker 1: split the head to head series this year with Indie,
Speaker 1: but Tennessee has the better division record. That's why they're
Speaker 1: in first place currently Houston Jacksonville at the bottom. Let's
Speaker 1: come back. We'll go to the not so powerful draft
Speaker 1: order and go around the league. Guest Tony Yes, real quick,
Speaker 1: can you imagine looking at these standings that let's say
Speaker 1: they they both went out, Titans and Colts both went out,
Speaker 1: and that the difference from the Colts winning the division
Speaker 1: was losing the opening day a game in which they
Speaker 1: didn't punt. Isn't that crazy? Let's come back. One final
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Speaker 1: by accident. Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy r J P. Shadrick,
Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, Tony Baselly. We're coming down the home stretch
Speaker 1: and let's take a look at the not so powerful
Speaker 1: draft order as it stands today. We'll start with what
Speaker 1: would be the Jaguars second pick in the first round.
Speaker 1: The Rams are would be twenty six today eight and four.
Speaker 1: That would be the division round losers. So it can
Speaker 1: move obviously depending on how the Rams finished, but right now,
Speaker 1: as of today, it's then we go. We start at
Speaker 1: number eleven. Those are teams at four and seven, the
Speaker 1: Bronco eleven, Washington at ten at four and seven, the
Speaker 1: Texans at nine, the Dolphins get that picked the four
Speaker 1: and eight. The Falcons would I would pick eight, the
Speaker 1: Panthers seventh, the Eagles six, the Cowboys fifth, the Chargers fourth,
Speaker 1: the Bengals third at two nine and one, the Jaguars
Speaker 1: second at one and eleven with a five fifty uh
Speaker 1: strength of schedule, and the New York Jets at oh
Speaker 1: and twelve with a five strength of schedule, and that,
Speaker 1: as we said earlier, it was pretty darn painful yesterday
Speaker 1: the way it ended. Oh, we lost Pete. We lost Pete.
Speaker 1: We don't know where where where. We lost Tony as well. There, hey,
Speaker 1: there are we hear each other. We lost you. I
Speaker 1: lost well, we collectively lost you because we were on
Speaker 1: That's okay. Anyway, it was painful yesterday. That was that one.
Speaker 1: I bet there were a lot of Jaguar fans that
Speaker 1: were sitting there watching that, just agonizing. S in this
Speaker 1: radio actually texted Baselly before before I didn't let me
Speaker 1: ask you the question and listen, I just think it's
Speaker 1: the least of our worries right now. Let's just keep
Speaker 1: on the same playout because who knows what happens. And
Speaker 1: I do think the Jags will win their game, Pete
Speaker 1: doesn't I think I think the Jets have a chance
Speaker 1: to win maybe one of the last two. Um, who
Speaker 1: knows what happened. But did you get the feeling though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if the Jets would have won, the Jags would have
Speaker 1: found a way to win in overtime. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: the good of the franchise. I was sitting there with
Speaker 1: the guys, I was working with him, saying, don't let
Speaker 1: him get to two point play now, just don't you know,
Speaker 1: it'll all work out how it's supposed to do, and
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Like I tweeted out, what if
Speaker 1: Justin Fields ends up being better? You know what? You
Speaker 1: have no idea? Really? Right, No, you don't, No, you've
Speaker 1: seen so far, you know you would think and that's
Speaker 1: why Chevor Lawrence probably go first. But I mean, but
Speaker 1: though Saturday night, I don't know if you guys watched
Speaker 1: Clemson at all. He threw some balls in the coverage
Speaker 1: and one in the end zone. It was picked off
Speaker 1: and he never saw the guy coming across. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was it was a bad read. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys saw it. Pete Prisco, there's the headline.
Speaker 1: Prisco says, Lawrence drops in draft order. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's not what I'm saying. But I mean, they all
Speaker 1: have issues. I mean everybody, everybody does. Yeah. And and
Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to play quarterback when you have
Speaker 1: all these great players, just saying with justin fields. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've always had great players around them. How do you
Speaker 1: handle it when you don't have great players around you?
Speaker 1: I mean, And and JP, you're an Alabama fan, big
Speaker 1: Alabama fan. You went there? Is is to a better
Speaker 1: than Mac Jones. Mm. I don't know. Max pretty good
Speaker 1: this year, I'll say that, right, But is he better?
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. You know, And people always Tony
Speaker 1: Pete is to a lightning to a lighting it up
Speaker 1: in Miami. And that's the point. And that's the point,
Speaker 1: And that's the point. Mac Jones is putting up numbers
Speaker 1: just as good as two it did at Alabama, better better.
Speaker 1: In fact, let's go around the National Football League hit
Speaker 1: some of these key games from yesterday. Uh, speaking of quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill and the Saints gotta win over the Falcons.
Speaker 1: That's your guy, Pete and he looked pretty darn good. Yes,
Speaker 1: you can have you can have him. You know what
Speaker 1: he beat? He beat the Falcons at home, didn't do much.
Speaker 1: He finally threw two touchdown passes against them yesterday and
Speaker 1: still only scored one. And he beat Kendall hitting in
Speaker 1: Denver and we didn't even throw for a hundred yards?
Speaker 1: Is that Is that what you want for a quarterback?
Speaker 1: If that's what you wanted for a quarterback, then then
Speaker 1: have at it. He's not any good play off what
Speaker 1: it is like, it's it's the right handed Tim Tebow.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, hey, Dolphins gotta win. He said two is
Speaker 1: not playing well. They won the game. There's a big
Speaker 1: fight in the game, but they're still winning in Miami.
Speaker 1: He's a good coach, Brian Flores. But did you see
Speaker 1: what he did when he came out on the field
Speaker 1: and got into with the Bengals. He shouldn't be doing that,
Speaker 1: but Tony has a player. Would you take that as
Speaker 1: a positive or negative? The coach, the coach getting into
Speaker 1: the brawl like that. Yeah, I didn't see it though.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know the the kind of facts
Speaker 1: around it. But I'll say this, he has loved in
Speaker 1: that locker room because they think our guy, our coach,
Speaker 1: has our back. I mean, I'm telling you he's loved
Speaker 1: by I mean, they would like that, I would think.
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't. I would too. He didn't fight anybody,
Speaker 1: just came out of the field start getting you know
Speaker 1: what happened. Their part returner got blasted twice on two plays,
Speaker 1: you know, illegally, and so he got mad about it
Speaker 1: and and I'm okay with it. I have no problem
Speaker 1: with it. It's a bad you know, he shouldn't continue
Speaker 1: it over He almost went to the other sidelaw like that. Yep,
Speaker 1: I would think so too. The first place New York
Speaker 1: Football Giants now after a win over the Seahawks, what
Speaker 1: is going on up there? Pete? Well, I mean, what's
Speaker 1: going on with with the Giants is the Giants are
Speaker 1: playing good defense. I mean you talk about a team,
Speaker 1: you know they had. The Giants had new coordinator, Patrick Graham,
Speaker 1: new coach, and everybody said, all the defense can't pay
Speaker 1: any good. He's done a really good job with him.
Speaker 1: They got all over Russell Wilson, and Russell Wilson's eye
Speaker 1: level came way down and he started getting hit, and
Speaker 1: late in the game on the third down play, Leonard
Speaker 1: Williams looked like the Leonard Williams everybody expected to see
Speaker 1: when he exploded past this guy for a sack. Um.
Speaker 1: They played well, and that was with Colt McCoy. Think
Speaker 1: about that. That wasn't with your starting quarterback. You go
Speaker 1: to Seattle and win. That's impressive. Joe Judge has done
Speaker 1: a good job, hasn't he remember all the stuff he
Speaker 1: did in training camp when he tried to weed everybody out.
Speaker 1: A certain guy in Jacksonville did that in his first
Speaker 1: camp too well. And they they're the best team in
Speaker 1: the NFC East. They're gonna win that division. Schedules a
Speaker 1: little tough. But they also have won two games over
Speaker 1: the Washington football team already, which gives him a big advantage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you have it. Those are some key games from yesterday.
Speaker 1: Chief's gotta win last night as well. Monday afternoon football
Speaker 1: Game one is already underway and the Washington football team
Speaker 1: at four and seven meeting the undefeated Pittsburgh Steelers had
Speaker 1: eleven and oh and Ben Roethlisberger's just hit Deonte Johnson
Speaker 1: on a three yard touchdown pass early in the second
Speaker 1: quarter of Steelers seven Washington nothing. But they still haven't
Speaker 1: run the ball. That's the Steelers three yard touchdown pass
Speaker 1: because they can't run it more than a foot. Well,
Speaker 1: they just hit. They hit about a third down, third
Speaker 1: and twelve, third team play down to the three and
Speaker 1: then scored on the next play. They don't run, They
Speaker 1: don't even try and run. Their passing game is the
Speaker 1: running game. Game two Monday Night Football, the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: at eight and three visit the San Francisco forty Niners
Speaker 1: at five and six. But they're not in Santa Clara.
Speaker 1: They won't allow contact sports. It's in Glendale at State
Speaker 1: Farm Stadium. Who you got, I got the Bills. I
Speaker 1: think Josh Allen's gonna go do one of his games
Speaker 1: where he throws it a ton on early downs. Uh.
Speaker 1: The forty Niners aren't bad against the run. So I
Speaker 1: think they throw it a lot, and I think they
Speaker 1: dictate tempo. I'll take the Bills, Yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: I think the forty Niners are I mean, with all
Speaker 1: the injuries they had, given that Kyle Shanahan, that whole
Speaker 1: staff a lot of credit. They got one of the
Speaker 1: best defensive statistically in the NFL still without top tenant
Speaker 1: the league, and they've had all those injuries. It's amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so give them a lot of credit. I think they
Speaker 1: I think the Bills slip up here, and I think, uh,
Speaker 1: I think and they might be that last playoff spot
Speaker 1: in the end when it's all said and done, because
Speaker 1: they no and then they run the ball well and
Speaker 1: they're playing good defense. Kyle Shanny has a heck of
Speaker 1: a coach. I mean, we know that. Um I think.
Speaker 1: I think. I think they is gonna win tonight, and
Speaker 1: I think they're dangerous down the stretch. If they get in,
Speaker 1: nobody will want to play. Then. I guarantee you, all right, boys,
Speaker 1: Pete Briscoe, Tony Vaselli, out of here, Joe Fortunado, Brent Reever,
Speaker 1: our entire crew. I'm JP shatter cool. Catch you next time.
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