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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. We got another

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Speaker 1: great guest to starting quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks, Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you joining me, brother, Thanks man, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Man. You have had such an incredible journey from San

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Speaker 1: Clemente High School to the Seattle Seahawks. You know you've

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Speaker 1: had your up say, you've had your your downs. Just

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Speaker 1: take me through. I mean how it's kind of helped

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Speaker 1: mold you as a person a player because a lot

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Speaker 1: of those moments, I mean I could, I could be

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Speaker 1: an old guy, but like kids these days, don't know

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Speaker 1: how to get through adversity. But you've been through so

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Speaker 1: much and shown perseverance, ran grit, all those good things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, for sure. I think at the end of

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Speaker 3: the day, you know, it really starts with how I

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Speaker 3: was raised, how I grew up, my family, my older

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Speaker 3: sister showing me the way when she was you know,

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Speaker 3: playing volleyball, the sports that she played growing up, and

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Speaker 3: how she got through things mentally, physically, all that. You know,

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Speaker 3: those are the people who kind of helped me get

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Speaker 3: to that mindset of just you know, never stop, you know,

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Speaker 3: no matter what happens on the field. Off the field,

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Speaker 3: life goes on, and as long as you have you know,

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Speaker 3: it's an old cliche, but as long as you have

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Speaker 3: great effort and a great attitude, that can take you

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Speaker 3: a long way. And that's kind of been my mindset

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Speaker 3: throughout my life really not just my career. But and then,

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Speaker 3: you know, along with family, I would say friends, having

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Speaker 3: a really tight circle of really good friends that I

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Speaker 3: can lean on in tough times, and friends that also

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Speaker 3: bring me down, you know, they kind of keep me

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Speaker 3: level headed when I, you know, have.

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Speaker 2: Success as well. So you know, I got great friends.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, obviously you know you know this,

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Speaker 3: you know as much as anybody, but just playing this

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Speaker 3: great game, you get to know and you get to

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Speaker 3: be around so many great people. Coaches, players, the people

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Speaker 3: in the building, you know, eat guys like e K

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Speaker 3: in the equipment room, and you know, there's just so

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Speaker 3: many people, so many great people in this in this industry,

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Speaker 3: in this business, and you know, I'm just so so

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Speaker 3: you know, grateful, I think at the end of the

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Speaker 3: day to just be a part of it. So I

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Speaker 3: think that mindset also helps kind of whenever you're going

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Speaker 3: through tough times to be able to like, dang man, like,

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Speaker 3: I'm so grateful to be in this position that I'm in,

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Speaker 3: so why not just give them my all every single day?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's can't wait. Do we clip that?

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Speaker 1: We make sure we have that, because that's that should

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Speaker 1: be everywhere and be said to everybody, because that's a

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Speaker 1: lost part of it. You know, people don't appreciate just

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Speaker 1: the ability that the blessing to get a chance to

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Speaker 1: go out there and compete and be healthy and have

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Speaker 1: a shot at it. I could say I would have

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Speaker 1: dreamed of your scenario, going to sc hometown kid, getting

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Speaker 1: be the quarterback, going being a top pick in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Walk me through your draft day. I know you've probably

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Speaker 1: told the story a million times, but they just make

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Speaker 1: one million and one for me.

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Speaker 4: The draft day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, because I had to be cool man.

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Speaker 2: It was sweet.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a once in a lifetime experience that again,

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Speaker 3: like I just mentioned, I got to experience that with

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Speaker 3: my family and my friends, and guys that I did

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Speaker 3: draft training with were also able to be in that

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Speaker 3: same room, guys like Josh Allen Well in our draft,

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Speaker 3: not not at USC, but that's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Were you training, Yeah, Josh.

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Speaker 3: Allen and Kyle Allen they were able to be there,

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Speaker 3: and Josh obviously got drafted by the Bills in the

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Speaker 3: same draft, and so it was just a big celebration

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Speaker 3: that night and it was great.

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Speaker 2: And then I was on.

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Speaker 3: A freaking early flight at like, you know, I had

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Speaker 3: a blur to do that. But just that that draft

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Speaker 2: There, that was an experience I'll ever forget.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna just borr through the whole New

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Speaker 1: York experience. You know, that's a chaotic environment in itself.

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Speaker 1: But we get to Carolina now and the what's it's

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Speaker 1: But you guys both go to Carolina and it's like crazy,

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Speaker 2: So we played y'all.

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Speaker 3: Right, you're in Tampa and that division was not good

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Speaker 3: that year, and so we had a chance to go

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Speaker 3: to the playoffs. I remember because Baker started that year.

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Speaker 3: I had actually gotten hurt in the preseason. I was

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Speaker 3: out for eight to ten weeks with a highinkel spring.

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Speaker 3: I end up coming back. The Baker thing happens the

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Speaker 2: Walker gets a couple of starts.

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Speaker 3: I go in and I think we end up going

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Speaker 3: last seven games, and we actually have a chance to

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Speaker 3: And I think we were up like twenty four to

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Speaker 1: We needed it to get into yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So if we if we beat y'all in Tampa,

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Speaker 3: that you know, second to last week, we just had

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Speaker 3: and we were in And so that was a huge

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Speaker 3: just crazy that way, because you know, I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: to your point what you said before, Like I'm so

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Speaker 3: grateful for just being there and and learning that system

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Speaker 3: with coach McAdoo that year, getting to meet Baker, who

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Speaker 3: I'm still really close with to this day, PJ Watt,

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Speaker 3: then I'm sure you're going to get into it. But

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Speaker 3: going to San Francisco that next year, learning a ton

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Speaker 1: But it's a beautiful story. It's a beautiful like when

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Speaker 1: you when you're writing stories, there's there's cool if it

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Speaker 1: would have if it went one way. That's a cool story.

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Speaker 1: You stay in New York, have an illustrious career, play

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Speaker 1: cool story too. But I think it's always a better

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Speaker 1: You know it's not gonna just be Oh, this is great, great,

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Speaker 1: everything's great. It's fun. And then at the end, happily

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Speaker 1: ever after, you're like, something bad is gonna happen. I

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Speaker 1: wonder what it's gonna happen. Like he's gonna lose, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna get injured, he's gonna do something. And then the

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Speaker 1: beautiful part of it, the part people love, is to

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Speaker 1: You go there, you back up rock party. That that

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Speaker 1: seemed like the end of Carolina, seemed like you're a

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Speaker 1: a it's Kyle's scheme. It's a great it seems like

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Speaker 1: it's quarterback friendly scheme. I tell you what you are

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Speaker 1: one of the players he was most in love with

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Speaker 1: during his time. I promise you there was nobody else

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Speaker 1: he talked about more that didn't play for our team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, Kyle's a man again. Just you know,

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Speaker 3: happy that they were able to bring me in, and

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Speaker 3: You know, I thought I could potentially maybe go there

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Speaker 3: and and start you know, for you know, two or

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Speaker 3: thankful that he was able to come back the way

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Speaker 3: that he did, super strong, lead us to a super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Obviously didn't get the job done, but no, just that

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Speaker 3: year was incredible to be able to learn, you know,

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Speaker 2: Who obviously were with now.

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Speaker 3: But you know, that was just a great experience and

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Speaker 3: being around those players too, like some of those dogs

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Speaker 3: they do every single day. Like Nick Bosa, I think

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Speaker 3: lifts five days a week during the season, which is insane,

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Speaker 2: He's squatting like three fifteen the front squatting.

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Speaker 3: No, So like Saturday, I you know, always remember you know,

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Speaker 3: You know, you have Christian Fred, like all these guys

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Speaker 2: And that was another cool part about being in use.

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Speaker 1: It's just interesting how Kyle run's meetings and things like that.

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Speaker 1: He's like totally teaching the whole team the whole time

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Speaker 1: he's doing it. He's explaining outside zone while the drift

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Speaker 1: whole team's in here, like yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've sat in all these meetings.

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Speaker 1: We have to He used to do it in team meeting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty incredible the way that he

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Speaker 1: He's an incredible Then you go to Kevin O'Connell, who's

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Speaker 1: another branch of this tree. There's an injury to the

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Speaker 1: rookie because it was it was supposed to be rumored

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Speaker 1: that there's a battle going on. He goes out, it's

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Speaker 1: your team, it's your helm, and you have an unbelievable

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Speaker 1: fourteen win season and incredible run. Walk me through that,

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Speaker 1: because again, coming from off a super Bowl team to

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Speaker 1: I'm floating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: It was really you know, obviously the thing with JJ

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Speaker 3: and you know, for literally was just us that believed

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Speaker 3: believing in us. We're just gonna go out there all

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Speaker 3: He's knifing up the field and getting eight yards on

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Speaker 3: But we have we spend a lot of time in

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Speaker 1: It's it's cool for you to get to see you

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Speaker 1: Cooper cup Brother. How does it feel to be back home?

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Speaker 4: It feels good, man.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's crazy going from you know where you

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Speaker 5: there's like a seasons of life.

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Speaker 4: Seasons of life.

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Speaker 5: You know, you I met my wife here, we got

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Speaker 5: where we you know, that's where our kids were going.

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Speaker 5: That's where we create our family, our community and all that.

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Speaker 5: So it's just such a it's such a weird balance

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Speaker 5: of those two things. But man, really excited for this,

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Speaker 1: I bet, I bet. Just walk me through coming from

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Speaker 1: where you came from from Yakima, was weren't highly recruited

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's kind of It's interesting because like

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Speaker 4: Have those expectations.

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Speaker 5: But it wasn't like that off season I went to

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Speaker 5: I do. And it started back like you said, like

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Speaker 5: back in middle school. Even in terms of that mentality

436
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 5: and like daily the daily process, it's like man, just

437
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:47,800
Speaker 5: stacking ricks over and over again and like very small

438
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 5: gains over a long time. And and then I guess

439
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 5: just built into time with this place where like I

440
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 5: was just ready to step into a moment when it

441
00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,439
Speaker 5: was presented. And obviously what that year wasn't you know

442
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 5: how it is for football. You are your your success

443
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,439
Speaker 5: is going to be a product of the people around you,

444
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 5: the coaches, the certainly the players, and.

445
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 4: Was all that stuff.

446
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 5: I just felt like it prepared me for that moment

447
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,199
Speaker 5: to say, hey, we've got you know, Matthew comes in,

448
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 5: how he joels with Sean, what that offense ended up being,

449
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 5: what that defense ended up being, what we were.

450
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 4: Able to do collectively as a team.

451
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 5: It just kind of was like, uh, you know, just

452
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 5: being ready to read for the moment, be ready to

453
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 5: be ready for your guys, be ready for Uh, when

454
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 5: your guys need you to step up and make a play,

455
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 5: go up and be prepared to step into that moment.

456
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 1: I hate to pivot and make the interview disconnected, but

457
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 1: I have to go here because it's the question I have.

458
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about your wife, Annah and the

459
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 1: three boys, Cooper, Cyrus, and Solas.

460
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 4: Yes, Cooper, Cyperus and Solas Yes.

461
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 1: Okay, and they're all what two three years apart. Yeah,

462
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 1: that's pretty perfect, by the way, that's idea.

463
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 4: I know what you did.

464
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 1: I see what you're doing. How awesome is it for

465
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: her to be able to come back and you know,

466
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 1: probably spend more time with family, the boys get to

467
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: get to get to know you guys's family more. How

468
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 1: important was that in your decision? Yeah?

469
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 5: And you know it is, it was. It was definitely

470
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 5: part of this whole thing as we were kind of

471
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 5: figuring out what life was going to look like, because

472
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 5: it is like you're coming up and everyone wants to

473
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 5: post on football, but we're moving our lives. You know,

474
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 5: there's there's people's lives and like that. That is that

475
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 5: that's the tough part, you know, And there's also like

476
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 5: there's a balance, there's there's like figuring out, well, hey, look,

477
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 5: we are now around family more. We are around like

478
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 5: there's people that you know, might not have had the

479
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 5: ability to come to games all the time.

480
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 4: Now we're wanting to come to games. And so it's like, well,

481
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 4: how do you deal with tickets?

482
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: Right?

483
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 5: How you how are you going to deal with like

484
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 5: your house where it's like, hey, we we offerate a

485
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 5: certain way. We do we do family like we don't

486
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 5: get a lot of time during the season. How do

487
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 5: we prioritize our time together? But also knowing that, like you,

488
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 5: we do have the ability to see family more for

489
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 5: now and how is that gonna look?

490
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 4: And so it was a conversation.

491
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 5: It was an important conversation because we obviously here as

492
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 5: as much as I love football, as much as my

493
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 5: process and all the things that we do, even my wife,

494
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 5: how we operate together to make sure that I can

495
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 5: go and be the best football player I can be.

496
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 5: That all takes place in the midst of being the

497
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 5: best husband and the best father I can be first.

498
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 5: And so those are the conversations that happened before anything else.

499
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 5: But we are so excited about that and getting up

500
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 5: here in that transition and all the challenges that that

501
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 5: presented was a whole another animal, but we able to

502
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 5: walk through it together. And and man, I'm excited about it.

503
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 5: And the weather's been great.

504
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 1: No, it's been honest, like it is welcoming your home

505
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: in the right way. Your wife and you guys met

506
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,959
Speaker 1: when you were in high school, like you said, at

507
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: a tract, met apparently, and you told your mom you

508
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: knew then that she would be the wife. Your wife.

509
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: That's that's been incredible. And then to read about how

510
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: you know she helped support you through college and she

511
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: left Arkansas. That has that helped you know obviously time

512
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: and all that, but it just seems like you guys

513
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: have been on the same page from the get go.

514
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there was definitely a there was an understanding

515
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,719
Speaker 5: I think from the beginning, like, man, this is just

516
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 5: from the first time I met her. So many things

517
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 5: they're like, hey, this is like like the boulders are

518
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 5: in common, right, It's not like, oh you like you

519
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 5: like Chinese I love Chinese Foo. No, it's like the bowlders,

520
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 5: the pillars of how you live your life. It's like, man,

521
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 5: that's that's important to me. And the first forty five

522
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 5: minute conversation we for whatever reason touched on like the

523
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 5: pillars of our lives and like, man, this is just

524
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 5: this is.

525
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 4: Like it just led this way to this place, like

526
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 4: this is.

527
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 5: Someone like that I vibe with on all like my soul,

528
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 5: you know, and so like that was what led to

529
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,479
Speaker 5: this place of like, man, this is who like this

530
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 5: is what I'm looking for.

531
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 4: This is who I want to marry.

532
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 5: But that's not to say that there weren't, man, incredible

533
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 5: challenges for us as we think fure out, what does

534
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 5: life look like as a married couple. What does life

535
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 5: look like now that we're you know, moving into a

536
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 5: new city and moving into a new profession, having kids.

537
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 4: Now our roles changes.

538
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 5: As you know, husbands and wives, and now we're also

539
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 5: mothers and fathers. We were sons and dars and still

540
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 5: are sons and dars, but we're first husband and wife,

541
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 5: and so there's all these things that change, and we're

542
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 5: like figuring.

543
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 4: All that out together.

544
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 5: And even though the pillars were the same, which is

545
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 5: what helped getus through it, ultimately there's so many things

546
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 5: around that of expectations and the ways that she was raised,

547
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 5: ways that I was raised, Like, man, we had to

548
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 5: have some hard conversations. And that was one of the

549
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 5: things that her dad actually told me very early on

550
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 5: when we were kind of preparing to get married, was

551
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 5: not to be afraid of having hard conversations. And we've

552
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 5: had plenty of those, and they're not always fun, but

553
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 5: they're so important.

554
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: And there's nothing in life worth having that is in.

555
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 4: It isn't like that.

556
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 5: All the growth is ha and through the very difficult things,

557
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 5: and and the reconvening, the coming together at the individual.

558
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 5: That's what we've tried to prioritize. Like we are at odds,

559
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 5: but we are going to were odds at each other,

560
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 5: and we're having this conversations because we want to get

561
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 5: back on track, you know. And so like that was

562
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 5: that's been awesome for us and and it has just

563
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 5: been such an incredible blessing to me what she's done

564
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 5: for me personally, but she who she is for our boys,

565
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 5: she's uh, yeah, she's just she's changed my life.

566
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: It's incredible to see women turn into mothers. It's one

567
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: of the most incredible things I've ever seen in my life.

568
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: It's like they have a switch soon as they get

569
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: pregnant and they're in their stomach and You're like, why did.

570
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 6: You learn to do that in any class? And already

571
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 6: have it? And I'm over here reading books. Well, swipe

572
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 6: on board, he said, Now, okay, I got I got

573
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 6: figured it out.

574
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 4: It is crazy, man.

575
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: One of the things, speaking of fatherhood, one of the

576
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: things I'm really curious and that they's question, even the fans.

577
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: You got Cooper Jamison, Cooper Douglas. You didn't want to

578
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: go junior, but you still went Cooper. What what are

579
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: we doing here?

580
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 4: I know, so I was. I actually was against naming

581
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 4: him after me.

582
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: Tough.

583
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 5: It's tough. I was actually against this. So we have

584
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 5: some other names we really liked, but I really liked.

585
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 4: Uh.

586
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 5: We just liked we liked the name Jameson and so

587
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 5: uh we were kind of going that route. We had

588
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 5: a first name picked out and then it wasn't It

589
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 5: was Dan year a month before he was born, and

590
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 5: it just came to approach me. It's like it was

591
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 5: meaningful to her, like she was she wanted to name

592
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 5: our first child after me, and so we we went

593
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 5: with that, and I had I love the idea of

594
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 5: even though he's not technically a full junior. I love

595
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 5: the idea of going to call him June. And so

596
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 5: that's where that kind of whole thinking is, like, I

597
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 5: don't want to call my son Cooper.

598
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 4: I need to have a name for him.

599
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 5: I'm a big nickname guy too, so I was the

600
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 5: entire time in the back then, I'm like, what's the

601
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 5: nickname going to be any for any first name it's

602
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 5: put out there, Well, it was the nick name. But

603
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 5: you know, once it was like, hey, I can call

604
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 5: we call our son June. I was like, oh, I'm

605
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 5: I love that board and incredibly honored. I mean, just

606
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 5: for our first son. For my wife to approached me

607
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 5: and have been so meaningful for her, that is cool.

608
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: That's awesome. My brother named his son of Junior and

609
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: he just calls him Jr. Jr. It's pretty cool. It

610
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: works out that the one of the challenges for me

611
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: when when naming our son, he ended up being raidingstead

612
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: are rich. We kept the same initials that me and

613
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: my wife have the same initials as my daughter and

614
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: my son. But it was just the unfair expectations of

615
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: the world more than more than me, you know, more

616
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: than how hard I'm going to be on him. It's

617
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: just such a social media and and very public facing

618
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: world that it's tough to really navigate the space or

619
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: even be there to help them navigate the space that

620
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: we never really had to navigate, you know when when

621
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, we didn't have social media,

622
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: didn't have all this. My dad was famous. I probably

623
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't have known it, you know, because I we had newspapers. Yes, yeah,

624
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: but but to have a dad who's done what you've

625
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: done and and you know it's is going to continue

626
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: to do great things both on and off the field,

627
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: how do you how do you navigate that space of

628
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: being a father and trying to make sure that the

629
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: kid understands, hey, there's no pressure on you to be

630
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: who I am and be who you are.

631
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I mean so you know June seven now, and.

632
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good question and answer of the and

633
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 5: I've talked about certainly, But so much of that I

634
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 5: think comes down to how we operate as parents and

635
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 5: what are we making important? And I think you know

636
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 5: as much as you can't her kids are in your

637
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 5: household and we homeschool because a big part of that

638
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 5: is because we want more time, We want more time

639
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 5: to be impactful to our kids, and if they see

640
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 5: what's important to us, you know, we can also pass along,

641
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 5: well this is what's this. I want to show you, like,

642
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 5: this is what is important. And we try to make

643
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 5: sure that's clear that the things that happen in football,

644
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 5: whatever the accolades, are all different. Stuff is the success

645
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 5: of work and the things that the things that the

646
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 5: earth and the world say is important is a lot

647
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 5: of times not the important thing. And so that's been

648
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 5: if we just be that and allow him to just

649
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 5: be ultimately just be a kid, like go go play,

650
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,239
Speaker 5: go do be outside imagination, go do it.

651
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: You want you want to rock climb, let's go.

652
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 5: You want to go learn, you go swim, you want

653
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 5: to go whatever it is, Like, let's find some passions

654
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 5: that you love and let's go do it because you

655
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 5: love to do it. And so trying to temper the

656
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 5: idea of there being expectation of like you need to

657
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 5: do football, you need to do this thing or be

658
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 5: or you even that like you need to be really

659
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 5: good at this thing is like, no, I want you

660
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 5: to find something you love and go for it and go.

661
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: For it yep, and I support you every step of

662
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: the way.

663
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 4: Whatever you need.

664
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Speaker 1: Man, I'm all in, all right, let's get to the

665
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: heavy hitting Seahaws here. You know they really want to

666
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: be that all these things. Yeah, the decision to come here,

667
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: we touched on that. But what about the relationship between Kobyak.

668
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: You know, you've run this offense some would call your

669
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: master of this offense, and even Sam Darnold, he's coming in,

670
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: coming from Kevin O'Connell. Every bit of it is like cousins.

671
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: They're cousins of the offense, but they're not all universally

672
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: the same. Yeah, talk about how that adjustment has been

673
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,239
Speaker 1: since you've gotten here. All I hear about is that

674
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: you spend endless time in this building, studying film and

675
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: doing all that, being a great teammate, being a great leader,

676
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: doing everything you're supposed to be. How does it look

677
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: from your.

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Speaker 5: Own Yeah, it's really cool. It's I touched on this

679
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 5: a little bit. I was talking to someone just recently.

680
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 5: But like the if you look back at the Washington

681
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 5: coaching staff from twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen, right, like,

682
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 5: look at the names, look at the people that are

683
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 5: on that staff. Oh right, so that's the Shanahan tree

684
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 5: comes off of there. Twenty seventeen, and Kyle goes one way,

685
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 5: Sean goes the other way. They draft George Kittle, rams

686
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 5: draft you know me and uh uh Gerald Everett. Right,

687
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 5: So like from there, from there, right, they're they're they're

688
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 5: at that point this very similar, same offense by the end,

689
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 5: by the beginning of twenty seventeen, really week three four,

690
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 5: it's like we're eleven personnel, right, you see where Shan

691
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 5: goes like, hey, you got George Kittle going, you're running

692
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 5: your twelve person that you run your twenty one personnel.

693
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 5: And then then eight years go by, right, and like

694
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 5: you have this like it's divergence of of people. That's like, hey,

695
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 5: you make the most of the people that are in

696
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 5: your building, You make most of the players that you have,

697
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 5: and that like sets this track of these two that

698
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 5: go so different directions, and I come here and it's like, man,

699
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 5: it's so cool because I get to like hop over

700
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 5: and see, well this is kind of off are we off?

701
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 4: Off of the you know that line that went this way?

702
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 5: But then there's a mix of the stuff that was

703
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 5: going on in Minnesota. There's a little bit of a

704
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 5: mix of the stuff that had gone on with eleven personnel,

705
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 5: and so it's like, man, it's awesome to see how

706
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 5: all these things like have grown and changed through the years,

707
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 5: and I get to be a little bit part of it,

708
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 5: all of it, but also know at the core where

709
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 5: things were, and I remember all this stuff, so I

710
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 5: can see where it all you're off to.

711
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 4: It's it's been really cool to be a part of.

712
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: And I saw an interview with You're talking about just

713
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: how defenses have adapted, because anytime you're good at anything,

714
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: the whole NFL is studying you year after year after year.

715
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: They're studying ways to defend it, ways to adjust, ways

716
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: to manipulate coverage as you motion. Hey, it's one picture,

717
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: one way you motion it, just like you're changing our picture.

718
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: We're going to change your picture now. Talk about how

719
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: your experience has helped you navigate that space and even

720
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: helped this coaching staff, you know, who's trying to implement

721
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: this offense to a to a new batch of players.

722
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's I think that's that's the coolest. It's

723
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 5: the coolesting of football is the way it changes and

724
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 5: grows and moves, and like you know, man, the offenses

725
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 5: are up one year, the defenses are up the other end,

726
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 5: it's like it's always changing and the emphasis is changing.

727
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 4: We're passing, receivers are.

728
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 5: Going off the boom boom boom boom boom defense like

729
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 5: hey no, we're taking that away, running backs coming back now.

730
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 5: Like there's all this stuff that's like moving and changing

731
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 5: on so many different levels, with players, with personnel, with schemes.

732
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: I love it.

733
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 5: But then you have guys like you know, you come

734
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 5: in here and you've got coaches that are so open

735
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 5: to being able to hear ideas and like, hey, this

736
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 5: is they have a conviction to how things are done,

737
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 5: but also being open and open to say like hey,

738
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 5: we're not going to be afraid of the of asking why,

739
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 5: you know, and then I'm not afraid of us going

740
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 5: and asking why and we're gonna they're gonna provide an

741
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 5: answer for it.

742
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: And that's what it's been.

743
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 5: It's been awesome being in there with with Koopak and

744
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 5: with you know, Rico, who's been in this offense for

745
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 5: a long long time, and you've got guys that have

746
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 5: just been a part of it for so long. It's like, man,

747
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 5: I can I can go in and ask why and

748
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 5: have conversation, have a discussion and here exactly what the

749
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 5: genesis of this was, why we do it and why

750
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 5: it makes sense or maybe why it doesn't make sense anymore,

751
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 5: based on what defense is doing and how defenses are

752
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 5: matching us, and how defenses are you know, personneling different ways.

753
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: And so you know, I've really enjoyed it and they've made.

754
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 5: A joy to come in here and be able to

755
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 5: have those conversations.

756
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: That's great to hear. Last question, what can the fans

757
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: expect from this season from you, Sam JS and K

758
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: nine Charbernay in this this incredible offense?

759
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean I don't love to talk about

760
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 5: expectations in terms of like the you know, like I'm

761
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 5: not making any predictions, you know what I mean. But

762
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 5: I will say this, like in my time here, the

763
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 5: respect I have for the way that guys go about

764
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 5: their business, for the preparation they have, the conversations that

765
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 5: are being had, and what is the most pivotal thing

766
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 5: is the time between every NFL team has, whoever it is,

767
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 5: ten hours in a day, eleven hours in a day

768
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 5: to do whatever they.

769
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 4: Need to do. Right.

770
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 5: You schedule your meetings and your schedule your walkthroughs. You

771
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 5: schedule your practices, your lifts and all this sort of stuff.

772
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 5: There's always five minutes to get from one meeting to

773
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 5: the next. What are the conversations happening in those five minutes? Right,

774
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 5: it's like the small edges you come out of this conversation,

775
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 5: come out of this, out of this meeting.

776
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 4: What are you get?

777
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 5: What's that five minutes? How are you spending that five minutes?

778
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 5: What focus do you have getting from one place to another?

779
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 5: And the like those little conversations that can give you

780
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 5: an edge, they stack.

781
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 4: Up over time.

782
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 5: Right, it's five minutes, you know, three or four times

783
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 5: a day for six weeks, and that builds into some

784
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 5: really good, like you know, progress in terms of you know,

785
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 5: getting to the point where when you get on the field,

786
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 5: we're gonna be dialed in. We know we got and

787
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 5: now it's just what going out there and executing.

788
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: Brother, that was a great That was a great interview.

789
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel better for it. I appreciate

790
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: you joining us.

791
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 4: Of course, thank you.

792
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: We got to get you later in the season. We

793
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: that's you comfortable and you're on your way to another

794
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: triple crown. See that sounds great, man. Appreciate Yeah, of course,

795
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. We got a guest.

796
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: I've been waiting on a long time to have this

797
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: conversation to Reek Wooling. Whatever. Brother, what's bro? How you

798
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: doing another day in paradise?

799
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, yes, sir.

800
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: Now, we had many conversations your first year about adjusting

801
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: to the league, about you know, the expectations and how

802
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: to see the world. You have come a long way

803
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: since then, tell me how you've grown from year one

804
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: to now.

805
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 7: Honestly, just for one, my mental state for real, just

806
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 7: being a young guy coming from UTSA and to now

807
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 7: you know you you really don't know what you're getting

808
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 7: into until you actually get your feet in there. And

809
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 7: just is my mentality just from e season ours is

810
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 7: getting better from hearing different things and way to counsel

811
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 7: stuff out, just because like and this game we play

812
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 7: and it's a lot of people trying to pull you

813
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 7: wish away. It's a lot of distractions and stuff like that.

814
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 7: So really just my mental state for real, Just make

815
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 7: sure I protect it and make sure that I'm the

816
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 7: best version of myself.

817
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: That's all you can be. That's all you can be.

818
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: They never made another one of you they won't make

819
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: another for this off season you talked about you know,

820
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: I want to ask you how you spent your off

821
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: seasons before this off season, But what have you done

822
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: this off season specifically? You know, you're a veteran, you

823
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: know how things go, you know the expectations to get

824
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: yourself prepared for the season.

825
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 7: Honestly, one thing, I got a new trainer. I was

826
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 7: just like, I still trained at the same spot in Florida,

827
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 7: but I went to Houston and guy us in my

828
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 7: agent agency, Kareem Jackson, you know, the safety. He told

829
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 7: me to come to Houston and try out the gym

830
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 7: he was at. What I did with there was a

831
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 7: lot of you know, body specific things, you know, to

832
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 7: prolong your career, but also to make sure you stay

833
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 7: healthy throughout the season, and doing different body movements that

834
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 7: I haven't done before, and then putting my body in

835
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 7: different positions that I didn't like just feel comfortable. So

836
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 7: like if I overstepped on the cut, it wouldn't feel

837
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 7: second nature, It'd just feel like I've been there before

838
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 7: instead of being uncomfortable. And there's different things like that.

839
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 7: And then also like to back to the mental part,

840
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 7: I spent a lot of time with my family. You know,

841
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 7: I feel like guys forget that those really the people

842
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 7: that helped you get here. And I know in my situation,

843
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 7: it is so just spending more time with my family

844
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 7: as well, you know, just being able to like find

845
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 7: my peace with them and understand where I'm from and

846
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 7: my ground and for real and I can't forget where

847
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 7: I'm from. So those are like two big things I

848
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 7: did this all season, you know, just to make sure

849
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 7: I was just being a better version of myself.

850
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: Speaking of where you're from, growing up in Texas football

851
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: and from what I hear, you know, more you get

852
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: they say football is everything. It's different. How was your

853
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: experience growing up and for wark?

854
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 7: Uh, honestly, it was a lot of fun, man. I

855
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 7: uh sure I enjoyed it. You know, I made a

856
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 7: lot of friends and you know, full worth, it has

857
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 7: its ups and downs and a lot of people hear

858
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 7: different things about it, but I loved it.

859
00:38:59,800 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: You know.

860
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 7: I feel like my friends and stuff that I grew

861
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 7: up with they also help shape to the person I am,

862
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 7: just because like you know, you will have friends, You'll

863
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 7: have guys around you for different seasons and reasons. You

864
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. And as you get older, you

865
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 7: start to see that because your circle kind of gets

866
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 7: a little bit smaller for real. And you know, those

867
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 7: guys I made friends with growing up, you know, I

868
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 7: still talk to them now and it is pretty cool

869
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 7: because you know, some people think you will change up

870
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 7: and switch up, you know, coming from Forworth, but I'm

871
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 7: really just the same person that some people don't have

872
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 7: the same access that they did before, so they think

873
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 7: I'm making new But in.

874
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: Certain parts you gotta change, Yeah, I mean, you gotta

875
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: grow mature. It's like people get upset that they're in

876
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: the same spot and they not growing and you growing.

877
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: When you come back to see them and they're like, man,

878
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: you don't don't think you better than us. I'm not better.

879
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm just different because I can go through different experiences.

880
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: So that's cool that you get to get back. But

881
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: you also continue to grow. As Immerson, You're still hooping.

882
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: They say you used to be somebody.

883
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 7: So I used to I had. I started hooping a

884
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 7: good minute ago. Man, I like to shoot the ball,

885
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 7: but other than it going and pick up game, n

886
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 7: I gotta set my legs. You know that court have

887
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 7: you needs her?

888
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: You need her question about it, no question about it.

889
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: So we both spent the journey from going playing receiver,

890
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: you know, at a high level, to playing corner. You

891
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: got to talk to me about that transition, why it happened,

892
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: when it happened, what went into it.

893
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 7: Uh So I was in college and I'll get a

894
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 7: little PC at receiver. But it wasn't like my Like

895
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 7: for me, it was my theme, but for the coaches,

896
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 7: I guess it wasn't you know, And I'll get less

897
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 7: playing time. And we had a young guy come in

898
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 7: and he was a baller, you know what I'm saying,

899
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 7: and you got you gotta put your best players out there.

900
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 7: And that was just like a mental moment for me.

901
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 7: And one day the coach for me and he was like,

902
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 7: you're athletic, You're told we can use you on the team,

903
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 7: just might not be receiver. How you played corner And

904
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 7: I was like nah. I was like no, I never

905
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 7: played defense in my life. And he was like, would

906
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 7: you like to try to help out the team And

907
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 7: I was like, nah, I'm a receiver. You know what

908
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 7: I'm saying. I went offense my whole life and he

909
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 7: was like, just try one time at pricice today and

910
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 7: you will see that to help the team, and if

911
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 7: you like it, you can keep doing it some more.

912
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 7: And so I'll go to practice and I'll go to

913
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 7: the receiver drills and he'll pull me down to the

914
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 7: dB drills and I just be in dB, just like nah,

915
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 7: I'm a receiver. So I after the dB, I keep

916
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 7: trying to go to receiver in Indian, He'll put me

917
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 7: back to dB. And it was a practice where I

918
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 7: was actually doing real good and all I was doing

919
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 7: is running with guys, and the coach was like, are

920
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 7: you sure you don't want to play this? And I'm like,

921
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 7: I mean I could try. And I want to say

922
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 7: that was before COVID had happened, because it was twenty nineteen,

923
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 7: and then COVID was that March of twenty twenty when

924
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 7: stuff starts to really happen for real.

925
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: Make me feel like an old man there, bro.

926
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 7: I'm telling COVID is crazy. And I played that last

927
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 7: game between nineteen season as a corner, and then we

928
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 7: got new coaches and they asked me that I want

929
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 7: to play a receiver or corner for the twenty twenty season.

930
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 7: I just chose to play corner. And then and from

931
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 7: there I just start to buy in and shoot, I'm

932
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 7: here now, you're.

933
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: Here now and on your wait to getting what you

934
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: need to get. Just keep keeping on the path. Was

935
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: there any inspirations anybody you you tried to marry the game?

936
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: I remember when I first moved the corner, I was

937
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: just watching Dion videos and Charles Woodson videos NonStop. I

938
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: was just like, well, look, I think I can figure

939
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: that figure out how to play like this. Was there

940
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: anybody that you looked for? I mean they said you

941
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: was watching Mad, playing Mad and learning the coverage. Just

942
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: I say, I know this boy wasn't no mad.

943
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 7: Trying to learn it. It kind of went in both ways,

944
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 7: like as a receiver, you know how it is like

945
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 7: a receiver I have a corner back that they go

946
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 7: against a lot of times, or it'll just receiver that

947
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 7: I like to get will end up getting shut down.

948
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 7: And also wasn't to me tall coints at the time,

949
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 7: So I would look at you, you know what I'm saying.

950
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 7: Then I'll look at Jalen Ramsey just because he was

951
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 7: a taller guy and his press work was real good

952
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 7: and shoot up those like y'all. Two was like really

953
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 7: the first two guys, I was really watching a lot.

954
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 7: I didn't know who to watch or what to watch.

955
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 7: I just knew that y'all are taller, y'all played football

956
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 7: real well, and those like the like y'all two people

957
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 7: was I want them out of my game at.

958
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: I wish I could have caught you and told you

959
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: to look at Brandon Browner. He's the only sixty four corner.

960
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: After seen just manhandle people. You came into your rookie year,

961
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: you know you weren't sure how it would go. You

962
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: gotta a great opportunity. Started off the bat started hot,

963
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: maybe you know, I mean six interceptions off the bat.

964
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: Walk me through that season in your mindset, because we

965
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: used to have conversations, but I didn't want to oversaturate

966
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: you with information. I knew once you get out there,

967
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: you get a feel forty You had four picks in

968
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: a row at one point.

969
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 7: That was a smooth man.

970
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: Run right there. Talk about how that season helped grow

971
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: your confidence.

972
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 7: Honestly, I started to grow just between each game. Like

973
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 7: I tell people every time, my favorite play and my

974
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 7: biggest play I'll never forget. We played the forty nine

975
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 7: ers and I blocked the field go No. One for

976
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 7: a touchdown, and I was like, my first play in

977
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 7: the league. And it wasn't even on the defense side

978
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 7: of the ball. It's just the fact that I actually

979
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 7: did something, and I'm like, damn, I did something. We

980
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 7: scored on it too. I was like, damn, it was nice.

981
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 7: And then that following we play the Falcons and I

982
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 7: got my first interception and it was like boom. Three

983
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 7: weeks in a row after that, and just being able

984
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 7: to you know, get better each week and you know,

985
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 7: just have a feel for the game and it started

986
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 7: to really slow down for me for real.

987
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about your coach, because you got a

988
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: defensive coach. You had a defensive coach when Pete was here,

989
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: but Mike's a little bit different of a coach runs

990
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: a different scheme. You're in year two of this scheme.

991
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: Do you feel more comfortable? Do you feel like you

992
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: have a downpacked and like, yeah, man, this could be

993
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: a real breakout season for you and just the defense

994
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: as a whole.

995
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I feel like you it will be a great

996
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 7: breakout season. To be honest. You know, we already have

997
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 7: a great defense, and we already have the pieces and

998
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 7: we added new ones. We just got a buy in

999
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 7: and like you said, our second year of defense, so

1000
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 7: a guy is a little more comfortable with it and

1001
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 7: stuff like that. And as we still learn new things

1002
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 7: into the defense as well, you know, it still feels good.

1003
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 7: And uh, it's just crazy. Took just the most out

1004
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 7: of impressed before ever. And I mean that's my skill

1005
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 7: set for real. So I like it. And as we

1006
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 7: continue to grow as a team, as it continue to

1007
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 7: go through camp and stuff like that and come to

1008
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 7: an end of installing everything, and I'm pretty sure that

1009
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 7: what we have put together, we're gonna execute it real well,

1010
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 7: and I know our defense will be real fun.

1011
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: Look. Look, I was always told press until you can't,

1012
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: and from what I'm with the conversations i've had with

1013
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: coach McDonald, that's what he wants from y'all. And that's

1014
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: a great way to play. You ever in doubt, go

1015
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: pressing and have him tell you to get off of

1016
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: But how different is it playing in this I can't

1017
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: even say two because it's just too high safety. Look

1018
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: versus what you ran you know early on in your career,

1019
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: the one hide, the single high three one coverages. How

1020
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: has that adjustment been for you.

1021
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 7: It's been small just because since you got two safety's there,

1022
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 7: it's easier to trust that they're gonna have you on

1023
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 7: a posts or like kind of deeper inbreaking routes and

1024
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 7: stuff like that. And then also it's just you can

1025
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 7: be more tighter to ross as well. I feel like,

1026
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 7: just because you kind of have that that safety net

1027
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 7: back there and you can play routs a little differently.

1028
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 7: I know that most of our stuff is a little

1029
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 7: bit more matchy as well, compared to what it what

1030
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 7: it was more clue, I said, clue, but loose the

1031
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 7: thirds and more like.

1032
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: Of a truth on. You know, we played it more matchy, man, Like.

1033
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 7: I remember just the forty nine ers game in the

1034
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 7: playoffs my rookie year, and like the key running these

1035
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 7: deep digs are deep overs, and I'm like what I'm saying, Yeah,

1036
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 7: But it was just the fact that like, oh, the

1037
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 7: hookers and stuff like that, they can get it and

1038
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 7: stuff like that. So it was just that. But honestly,

1039
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 7: shoot this defense, I love it, and I like the

1040
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 7: way that we played things around here, especially the mixing

1041
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 7: matches of different coverages and then the different fronts to

1042
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 7: make the D line eat because D line and secondary

1043
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 7: go hand in hand. And if you have a great

1044
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 7: D line, make sure secondary look even better.

1045
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: Look remember that around Christmas time is what the D

1046
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: line always told us.

1047
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 5: Man.

1048
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: You know, look, they help you eat. They say, hey,

1049
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: you know, a nice little gift here and there, don't

1050
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: hurt nobody. But y'all ain't paid. Yeah, so you know,

1051
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: taking time with that. But but that was something that

1052
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: people don't really understands, just how you know, what's on

1053
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: paper about a coverage can look different than once being

1054
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: executed out on the field because people we were running

1055
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: the same things y'all were running, but we just played

1056
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: it so different and people are like, oh man, you guys,

1057
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: you guys are running running some complicated coverage Like no,

1058
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: it's covered three. But the reason it looks like this

1059
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: because we know the place. It's like, the reason I'm

1060
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: running this dig for him is because I knew it

1061
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: was dig. He knew it was deep. I know he's

1062
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: not gonna drop because he gonna sit for the checkdown

1063
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: because we're not giving him a checkdown either. I'm gonna

1064
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: drive dig and we're gonna get this play squashed all together.

1065
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: But that just comes from you know, years and years

1066
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: of playing in the scheme. But that's similar to what

1067
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: y'all doing right now in Mike's scheme and what you're

1068
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: you're making the scheme your own, you know, and so

1069
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: this season, contract year, all that, it's no different for you.

1070
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: Don't try to put more pressure on yourself. I think

1071
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: it's time for you to go out there and have fun.

1072
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: Trust your teammates, y'all got it incredible secondary. You might

1073
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: have one of the best most talented defenses in the

1074
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: National Football League, and they you know, they might. You

1075
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: might be getting guys more guys back as you're getting healthy.

1076
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: So what I would say is just have fun, man,

1077
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: go out there and and and enjoy yourself. The ships

1078
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: are going to fall where they're supposed to fall, and

1079
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: owners these days is getting paid. So just do your

1080
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 1: job healthy as you can. Yeah.

1081
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 7: Sure, no, for sure man, that's my goal.

1082
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 8: Man.

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00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 7: So mean, it's human nature. You see all the you know,

1084
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 7: the corners and stuff like that, but all it is

1085
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 7: playing ball, for real. I know, I put myself in

1086
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 7: a great position. I just got to keep playing ball,

1087
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 7: man for real.

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00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: On that note, because early on it was it was,

1089
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, the big conversation between you and Sauce you

1090
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: and saw who's better you and Saul? You know where

1091
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: I stand that the books is important to me. You know,

1092
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: you got more books than you know. It's harder, hard

1093
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: conversation to have. But does that ever get into your mind?

1094
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: I mean, as a competitor, it would get in. It

1095
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't get into my mind like in a negative way,

1096
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: but it just be like I keep tabs like how

1097
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: they do it all right, I'm strapping all in boys

1098
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: for sure. Do you ever do you ever find yourself

1099
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: doing that a little bit?

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Speaker 7: You know, just because, like I said, my class, I've

1101
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 7: seen a lot of corners go before me. Even I

1102
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 7: remember just being there my family and just watching all

1103
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 7: these people get drafted. I knew I wasn't gonna be

1104
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 7: like the first round pick out the UTSA, you know

1105
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. I had to really just go crazy

1106
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 7: just to do that. But I knew that I was

1107
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 7: able to be able to play, and I knew that

1108
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 7: some people wouldn't be able to shouldn't be getting drafted

1109
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 7: before me, you know. But once we got here, all

1110
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 7: that eRASS and you got to play ball and whenever

1111
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 7: all that stuff was happening, and I just will see it.

1112
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 7: I knew what type of world I'll be living in

1113
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 7: from there, but I knew that it was my race,

1114
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 7: and I knew that I just had to beat Tarika Wiland.

1115
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 7: And if I'm the best version of myself, I don't

1116
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 7: think anybody can beat me. So you know what I'm saying,

1117
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 7: And my stats actually show it, and my takeaways and

1118
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 7: my past defense, you know, just everything statistical it shows.

1119
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 7: So I mean, you just got to keep it most definitely.

1120
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 4: So I just beat myself for real.

1121
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: Speaking of racist, this is my last question. You're the

1122
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: fastest player ever over six foot in the combine, you

1123
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: know all that. Do you ever get any of these

1124
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: young guys coming in trying to try you?

1125
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 7: Oh no, not really, just because like some of the

1126
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 7: young guys, they just be amazed that that dang were

1127
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 7: on the same team for real, and it'd be crazy

1128
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 7: because like when I was a younger guy, that's how

1129
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 7: I was. And I remember I first got in. I've

1130
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 7: seen DK and c lock and like I knew I

1131
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 7: can v DK and running, but it wasn't even that fact.

1132
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 7: It was just the fact, like, damn, on the same team. Man,

1133
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 7: It's pretty cool. So I'm like, that's how it just

1134
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 7: kind of the rookies nowadays, like we all on the

1135
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 7: same team, and nobody just really said they can just

1136
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 7: come and challenge me and beat me.

1137
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: For real if they had one I'm sorry, one more,

1138
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: if you had one of them races, would you participate

1139
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: because it was a while Tarik was talking about.

1140
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 7: We're gonna have to trust me most definitely, I'm telling you,

1141
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 7: hands down, you put me out there, I'm going crazy.

1142
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 7: I for real, I've been I've been wanting the NFL.

1143
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 7: Somebody had set that up on selling the fastest man

1144
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 7: competition for real much I'm like on the fastest Hey.

1145
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: You heard here, first fastest man competition. Y'all need to

1146
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: organize it. Reek is in it, no question about it.

1147
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 7: Definitely.

1148
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining me, brother. It's been a long

1149
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: time and and we're gonna have you during the season

1150
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: and continue these conversations. I can't wait. Good luck this year.

1151
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 7: No, I appreciate you for having me.

1152
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. Today

1153
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: I have an incredible guest, a head coach of the

1154
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, Mike McDonald. Appreciate you joining me honored, be

1155
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: honored man started to see it great to see you.

1156
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: So I want to start at the beginning of your journey.

1157
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: You you you had a fork in the road. You

1158
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: could have went into finance, you with some of cum laude,

1159
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: and you decided to go intern for Baltimore. Out did that?

1160
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't.

1161
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 8: I didn't decide for to go, like, I didn't just

1162
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 8: pick Baltimore. They fortunately reach out to me. I think

1163
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 8: I think it's a I think it's a like a

1164
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 8: calling thing from God. Frankly, it's just how could you not?

1165
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 8: You know, like that was a dream of mine to

1166
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 8: do it, and I had taken a job, you know, in.

1167
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: The business world.

1168
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 8: I wasn't fired up about it, but it kind of

1169
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 8: felt like it was time to move on. And you know,

1170
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 8: the Ravens they reached out and they had this whole

1171
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 8: process that Jay Harbough actually helped run define and so

1172
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 8: I had an opportunity to go up there and talk

1173
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 8: with them and meet with everybody, and and uh, they

1174
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 8: chose me. And so that was just like a major blessing.

1175
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 8: And you're sitting there, I'm you know, I'm gonna go

1176
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 8: work for the Ravens and so I'm gonna go try

1177
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 8: to take advantace of the opportunity on.

1178
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: The practice field. You shared a story with me about it.

1179
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: It's almost a full circle moment ten years to the

1180
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: day since you came in here and had a conversation

1181
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: with Dan Quinn and and got to see him and

1182
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: how he coached and and try to learn from him.

1183
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 1: Now you're the head coach of that same team. I mean,

1184
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: just talk take me through that journey of how how

1185
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: we got here.

1186
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was that was a.

1187
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 8: It's funny that we're talking today. Is just that was

1188
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 8: on my heart the other day going through the locker

1189
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 8: room and seeing the guys.

1190
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 2: But uh yeah.

1191
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 8: So the guy that I was working for at the time, Art,

1192
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 8: he was the coordinator, Todd Grantham, set up a visit.

1193
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 8: My sister was living in Kirklan at the time, so

1194
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 8: I was gonna come up and here and visit her

1195
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 8: in the spring. And so they had a relationship TQ

1196
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 8: and TO, so they set up time for me to

1197
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 8: come in here and and hang out with DQ for

1198
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 8: the day. And I think it was like it was

1199
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 8: a low period not and everybody was in But I'll

1200
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 8: tell you what like just walking through the door of

1201
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 8: the first time, it just felt so much different than

1202
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 8: anything than I was used to. Like positive, mean, we

1203
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 8: all know the culture that was here at the positivity,

1204
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 8: the energy, the connection that everybody had. And for DQ

1205
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 8: to take his time to just hang out with a

1206
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 8: dumb ga like me, you know, he's I forget what

1207
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 8: he was talking about. He was whatever he drew on

1208
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 8: the shoot at paper, I would have thought it was gold.

1209
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 8: And uh, but then we walked around. This is what

1210
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 8: I what I w I shared with scharm was he

1211
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 8: goes in the locker room and and like I'm in

1212
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 8: there with him, and you were right there, maybe finishing

1213
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 8: a workout or something, and like you guys dat each

1214
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 8: other up.

1215
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: It was like you're laughing, there's you know, he's like

1216
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 2: shadow boxing you.

1217
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 8: Like, and I'm just like, man, this guy is so

1218
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 8: cool and this place is so awesome, you know. And

1219
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 8: uh so that's one of those like core memories that

1220
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 8: you have as a coach of Oh, this is what

1221
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 8: it could feel like, you know, And and this is

1222
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 8: why this is probably one of the reasons why these

1223
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 8: guys are so good and and uh and then yeah,

1224
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 8: I mean you look at the calendar. Again, I think

1225
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 8: it's a it's a calling thing. You look at almost

1226
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 8: ten years of the day from walking into the building.

1227
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 8: You know, we're walking in there as a head coach.

1228
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 8: So it's a pretty incredible story.

1229
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: And you talk about a rapid assent. I mean, you're

1230
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: you're still one of the youngest head coaches in the

1231
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 1: National Football League. How how incredibly blessed do you feel?

1232
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: And just privilege you get to do this for a job,

1233
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: You get to lead these incredible men. You came in

1234
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: in your first season win ten ball games. I mean,

1235
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: there are coaches that that have coached a long time

1236
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: that probably still haven't seen ten win season. But that's

1237
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: a story for a different day.

1238
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 8: Uh yeah, I think you put it the right way.

1239
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 8: Incredibly blessed. There's there's like a sense of responsibility of

1240
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 8: you when you're around Like today, we were having not

1241
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 8: the best morning of all time. Some of the game

1242
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 8: plan beings we hadn't weren't really going the way that

1243
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 8: we wanted it to go, and it was a little frustrating.

1244
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: We got you know, we're stuck in the mud a

1245
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: little bit.

1246
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 8: But you get to the team meeting, you see the

1247
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 8: guys you're in the defensive team meeting and you come

1248
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 8: to life and so anytime you're around the guys, you're

1249
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 8: just like, man, I love these guys, you know, and

1250
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 8: uh and there's a responsibility there because they they're putting

1251
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 8: on the line. They have so much at stake, and

1252
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 8: it's our football team, it's our Cities football team, and

1253
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 8: that's huge. But these are the guys that are reacting,

1254
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 8: that we're interacting with on a daily basis, and that's

1255
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 8: what gets you going. I mean, that's that's what that's

1256
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 8: the sense of responsibility you have. And I think, you know,

1257
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 8: I know, I'm on. I've had a lot of great opportunities,

1258
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 8: been really lucky. I used to joke with Harbs and

1259
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 8: in Baltimore. You know, we'd had with some great coaches

1260
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 8: that move on to great, great opportunities, like Spags is

1261
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 8: our dB coach. In twenty fourteen, he became a defensive

1262
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 8: coordinator and so then I got to be promoted. Ted

1263
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 8: Monachino got a defense coordinator job, so you know, opportunity

1264
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 8: was available and then uh DMPs retired. I mean, Leslie

1265
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 8: Fraser was our dB coach at one point he got promoted.

1266
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 8: He went he went to Buffalo, So I was always

1267
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 8: the young, cheap option to uh, you know, to kind

1268
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 8: of take the you know, the next step responsibility wise,

1269
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 8: but just been around like awesome people. Man.

1270
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: Like if you were to tell me when one when

1271
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: I came into.

1272
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 8: The hang out with Q, I was gonna hang out

1273
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 8: with Dan Quinn, Jim Harbaugh, John Harbaugh, Ouzzie knew Some,

1274
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 8: Steve Spagnolo, Dan p s Wing, Martin. I mean, the

1275
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 8: list goes on and on. And then the guys we

1276
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 8: have here. I mean, we have some great coaches in

1277
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 8: the building. John Schneider, It's it's it's pretty incredible.

1278
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: It's really incredible. And you at least from you know,

1279
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: thirty thousand foot view, I can see elements of all

1280
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 1: those coaches, even how you ran your off season program,

1281
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: certain elements. I can see Jim Harball and how he

1282
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: does things and how you know, how he knows that

1283
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: callous built great football team, sure, and he only built

1284
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: them by getting the reps. And he had this great

1285
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: simple saying that he would say more and more, that's right,

1286
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: that's never been less.

1287
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 2: That's hilarious. That's so funny. That's right. I was there.

1288
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: It's who would you say is your biggest like inspiration

1289
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 1: to your coaching style.

1290
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 8: Oh man, I think I think you said it best.

1291
00:56:55,120 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 8: Is just when you're around these people you realize all.

1292
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 8: I think that the common threadfrin on these guys is

1293
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 8: just it's, uh, it's true to them. You know, there's

1294
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 8: no phoning. There's no phoniness there. God, that drives you

1295
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 8: crazy if someone's trying to act like somebody else. And

1296
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 8: I mean I've been around John Harbaugh for a long time.

1297
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 8: I mean he's a huge influence on me. Uh but yeah,

1298
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 8: you're just taking bits and pieces Oh okay that I'm

1299
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 8: inspired by that. Well, maybe I would tweak it like this.

1300
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 8: I think that's kind of more my stuff. You're always

1301
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 8: kind of making those assessments as you go. Yeah, you

1302
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 8: talk about just our programming. I think the blend that

1303
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 8: I've found it is work that's like true to us

1304
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 8: is Hey, we like we say, old school principles, new

1305
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 8: school methods. So the callous is real, Like, hey, we're

1306
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 8: gonna get after it. We're gonna respect each other. You know,

1307
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 8: we're gonna have integrity. You know, like there's I think

1308
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 8: I think that you have to have that to have

1309
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 8: a solid foundation, but you know new school methods, like, hey,

1310
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 8: we're gonna have fun, Like we're gonna we're gonna do

1311
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 8: cool stuff. We're gonna Chase edges On like on on

1312
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 8: how we do stuff and methods, and we're gonna use

1313
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 8: science and rings analytics, and we're gonna stay the heck

1314
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 8: out of what schemes and try to be it on

1315
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 8: the forefront of that and how we acquire players. Like

1316
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 8: all that stuff is hopefully like it has like a youthful,

1317
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 8: innovative feel to it.

1318
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: I think the coolest thing about you and about a

1319
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: lot of the great coaches now is your ability to

1320
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: pivot and be flexible. You know, you're not rigid in

1321
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: your philosophy. You have your foundational pillars, but you also

1322
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: understand that each year is a new challenge. You have

1323
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: a new team and you have new individuals. Walk me

1324
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: through your your changes or your evolution from year one

1325
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: to year two.

1326
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 2: Man, it's it's it's pretty it's pretty significant.

1327
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: You know.

1328
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 8: Frankly, I think we finished last year and I know

1329
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 8: you take that ten win Ten wins is awesome, it's great,

1330
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 8: but you know, we have bigger goals here, and frankly,

1331
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 8: we should have higher expectations for ourselves and so we

1332
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 8: fell short and we have to be critical of what

1333
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 8: we're doing. You know, it's the same It goes back

1334
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 8: to the same same philosophy. Hey, we're still going to

1335
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 8: be built on the right stuff, but how we're doing it,

1336
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 8: let's let's evaluate that. So as a head coach, you

1337
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 8: know where where do our fall short? Well, I can

1338
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 8: be better in these areas, you know, like streamlining the message,

1339
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 8: taking more ownership of the team, being better in the

1340
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 8: team meetings, connecting the building better, having more better relationship

1341
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 8: with our players. All those things was a was a priority. Hey,

1342
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 8: we can improve our off season program. It was a

1343
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 8: great program last year, but we can take it to

1344
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 8: another level and that could give us an edge going

1345
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 8: into the season. So those were all in the forefront,

1346
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 8: and then we got great people around, like working with

1347
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 8: Ivan and Danny down there. Building our off season program

1348
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 8: was so much fun. They took it by the reins,

1349
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:38,959
Speaker 8: made it come to life.

1350
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: It was awesome.

1351
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 8: All of our coaches have they just they just like

1352
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 8: they make it come to life, man, And you really

1353
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 8: appreciate that because they're you know, they're going to bat

1354
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 8: for you.

1355
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: I think It's really cool that offensively you guys have

1356
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: evolved and it seems like you guys are adopting some

1357
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: semblance of the and I hate to use other coaches

1358
00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: to name it, but that's the only way I know

1359
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: to name these systems. The McVeigh, Shanahan and O'Connell Laflor's

1360
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: West Coast Bill Wall system, which is which is the

1361
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: top of the top at the league right now, every

1362
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: every great team is running some version of it. And defensively,

1363
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: I think you guys are at the forefront of you know,

1364
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: your combinations, your your exotic fronts, your disguise packages. Tell

1365
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: me about that evolution and what went into that, because

1366
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: when you lost Gino and you lost DK, and obviously

1367
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,479
Speaker 1: that's a huge shift. You lose Tyler, you know that's

1368
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: that's two of your top three receivers, you lose your quarterback,

1369
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: and it seemed like the pivot you guys made was

1370
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: so seamless. You go out to practice, you would never

1371
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: know that you really lost anybody. It's been smooth. On offense,

1372
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: you guys look like a well oiled machine. You got

1373
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: young guys stepping up. The offensive line looks as good

1374
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 1: as it's ever been take me through that well.

1375
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: As I'm listening to you, I'm thinking interview.

1376
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 8: When we were interviewing Clint, he asked about personnel, like

1377
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 8: he goes something along lines of, hey, now like are

1378
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 8: these guys, you know, are we expecting any changes or

1379
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 8: these this is like this we're gonna have because you know,

1380
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 8: I like you guys or whatever.

1381
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, like you know of.

1382
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 8: Course going in so I didn't know it happened fast

1383
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 8: and uh, you know, he gets here and all of

1384
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 8: a sudden we have a completely new offense. John, I

1385
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 8: are like, hey us, everything to me, right, I promise,

1386
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 8: you know. And but Clint's been awesome man. He's just

1387
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 8: he's first of all, he's a team guy. He's and

1388
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 8: we talk about all time greats. I mean, just you know,

1389
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 8: I know, I know he's kind of like with Kyle

1390
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 8: and his dad, building his own vision of his offense.

1391
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 8: But Gary's such a big influence on him. I think

1392
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 8: what's cool about our shared experience of like how we've

1393
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 8: built our systems is you know you think about I mean,

1394
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 8: Clint's even been around your raid and so you know

1395
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 8: he's and he's worked for his dad and he's worked

1396
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 8: for Kyle and then he's done it on his own.

1397
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 8: So same idea of hey, I'm on these like awesome

1398
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 8: these awesome systems, and I'm learning the nuts and bolts

1399
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 8: of what makes it come to life. But hey, I'm

1400
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 8: I'm there's different ways to do it. And so I

1401
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 8: think his experience, like next year, he really created started

1402
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 8: creating a vision for how he wants his offense to run.

1403
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 8: And it's adaptable and personnel. But I think I'm proud

1404
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 8: to say we have our own are are of It

1405
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 8: is the Seahawk offense now. Now we're on We're based

1406
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 8: on West Coast wide zone principles all that. But you know,

1407
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 8: this is Clint's offense. This is our offense now, which

1408
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 8: is cool. The same thing with us on defense. And

1409
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 8: we were talking before we walked in here. I mean,

1410
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 8: it's we're influenced by so many great systems and coordinators

1411
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 8: in the past. But I think I think, you know,

1412
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 8: as a coach, it's your responsibility kind of read the

1413
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 8: tea leaves and understand where the game's go in the

1414
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 8: game is so much different than it was you know

1415
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 8: in six and eight, even five years ago, you know,

1416
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 8: and so you have to kind of have a system

1417
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 8: that's adaptable and flexible enough that and light enough where

1418
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 8: you can move and shake and keep it simple for

1419
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 8: the guys so they can go have success.

1420
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're doing that and I and I

1421
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: love that, and I love your football mind, and we

1422
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: can We're gonna pivot a little bit because this is

1423
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: the important stuff. You had a sun a little less

1424
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: than a year. Yeah, how how has that journey ben?

1425
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: Because you you're you're having all this massive impact on

1426
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: all these other young men, but now you've got your blood,

1427
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: sweat and tears. Yeah.

1428
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 8: Well he's here right now. He's Uh, I saw him.

1429
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 8: He's here before practice.

1430
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: My wife. The only time I can see him now

1431
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 2: is that practice. My wife brings him all the time.

1432
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 2: It's been. It's been. It's pretty it's just been incredible.

1433
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 8: Like I don't know if I had actual expectations about

1434
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 8: how it was going but or how I was going

1435
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 8: to going to go.

1436
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: But when you have a kid in the middle of

1437
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: the season, it's kind of wild.

1438
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 8: And your first year, I mean, there's a lot of

1439
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 8: stuff going on last year, but uh, I think I

1440
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 8: think there was a light that went off in my mind,

1441
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 8: Like in the off season, like, oh, you've been You've

1442
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 8: missed a significant portion of your kid's life, Like you

1443
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 8: got to kick it into a gear as a dad.

1444
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: You know that's not true, but.

1445
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 2: But I like I felt it a little bit, you know.

1446
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 8: And and and my and my wife's been so awesome

1447
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 8: with the whole process, and but we're not like our

1448
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 8: family's not here and we don't have a lot of

1449
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 8: I have like a lot of people as a help

1450
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 8: and stuff. So but it's been awesome. Now he's he's

1451
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 8: almost walking and like he's interested in stuff, and he's

1452
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 8: banging on the table and we're trying to get him

1453
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 8: to say I'm we're racing to say dad or mom first. Yeah,

1454
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 8: you know that goes So, I mean we're in that

1455
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 8: stage right now, which is awesome. And uh yeah, yeah,

1456
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 8: I still can't believe he's like ours. You look at

1457
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 8: him and you're like, what are you going to look like?

1458
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 8: You know, like, what's your personality going to be? What

1459
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 8: are you going to say? You know, what are you

1460
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 8: gonna be interested in? And so, uh that's really cool.

1461
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 8: Can't wait for me. I love this phase. Can't wait,

1462
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 8: just can't wait for the other phases. But don't want

1463
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 8: this phase to leave, and so it's a great time.

1464
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: You're going to experience a lot of phases of that.

1465
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: What I will say as as a as another dad

1466
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: is it's it feels that way. It feels like every

1467
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: second true way. You're like, man, I missed this, and

1468
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: thank God for our wives and how superhuman they are

1469
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: and how incredible they are. Because I tried to explain

1470
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: this to other people, but you don't really understand it

1471
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: until you see it for yourself. It's like when they

1472
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: become mothers. It's like something clicks and you're like, God,

1473
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: oh my god, how do you know how to do?

1474
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: How did you? How did you know to do that?

1475
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: Like I never saw you. I've known you for a

1476
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: long time now and I've never seen it.

1477
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 2: That's right, it's really well.

1478
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 8: And the fee I mean, they create the they've created,

1479
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 8: they actually created the kid, which is insane. And you

1480
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 8: stay birth and you're like, wow, that's that's incredible. And

1481
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 8: then they're like, okay, I'm just going to make his

1482
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 8: food now right, just naturally, and you're like, like.

1483
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 2: The body actually knows what to do and they turn it.

1484
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, You're like, can I have incredible? Like what do

1485
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: I do?

1486
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I'm like nope, I can't. Are you old

1487
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 8: him for a second? And he loses his mind? Right,

1488
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 8: You're like, all right, I go try to calm him down.

1489
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: That's what That's what I would say you. You you

1490
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: appreciate the moments when they get old enough to know

1491
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: and you can sit them in the office and they're

1492
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: just sitting here on your arm and you're like, hey,

1493
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: I got to watch this tape right here and yeah,

1494
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: and you just appreciate the moments that hey, I'm working

1495
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: hard for something. I said this to them a loone

1496
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: time ago when I had my first time, we had

1497
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: just lost the Super Bowl. We had lost, and he

1498
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: was born three days My wife was like getting contraction.

1499
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 2: That I forgot about that.

1500
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It was. It was. It was chaos,

1501
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: and it hits you in a different way. Losing it

1502
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: is hard hard enough, but losing and then having your

1503
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: son at the game, you're like, oh my god. So

1504
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: I was like, one of my biggest goals was to say, hey,

1505
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: I want my son to see me playing the super Bowl.

1506
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: Like and so it'd be so many moments where you're like, hey,

1507
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: You've got all these all pros. You got all these accolades,

1508
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: like you could feel good about your career. But when

1509
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: you have something like that and you see him every

1510
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: day and you're like, hey, you're you're pushing me to

1511
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: another level that I appreciate you helping me get to

1512
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: because about you, I don't know if I'm getting there.

1513
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1514
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's special.

1515
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 8: And it's like, I mean, there's a lot of like

1516
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 8: existential questions that you ask yourself, especially when you're become

1517
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 8: a dad. But you're like, what are we really doing?

1518
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,919
Speaker 8: Why are we why are we doing what we're really doing?

1519
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 8: It kind of tests you, you know, like it. You know,

1520
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 8: you're gonna put your money where your mouth is on

1521
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 8: what you're about. And now now it's like, okay, well,

1522
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 8: your son's going to see this at some point however

1523
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 8: this whatever way it goes, he's going to see how

1524
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 8: how you did what you did And that's always in

1525
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 8: the back here, you know, But it would be I mean,

1526
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 8: I wouldn't.

1527
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: I couldn't.

1528
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 8: I'm like praying that he is old enough and to

1529
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 8: be able to experience this. You know, meet the guys,

1530
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 8: hang out, have a relationship with the guys, you know,

1531
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 8: be interested in the game, you know, all that type

1532
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 8: of stuff. He didn't have to be a coach. Hopefully

1533
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 8: he's not. Hopefully he's a you know, astronomer or something.

1534
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you know something. It's a reason all

1535
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: these these great coaches and you look up and their

1536
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: sons are like right behind talking with Kubiak right now,

1537
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: you go McVeigh, Lafleor's like all these guys. And because

1538
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: it's what you've grown into. You know, if you're a

1539
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: great coach, you coach for a long time, and it's

1540
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: not like you're taking something away from your son. Because

1541
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: everybody's dad goes to work. I mean not everybody, but

1542
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: for the most part. You see that my dad was

1543
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: a trash truck driver. I didn't want to be a

1544
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: trash truck driver. But the lessons that it taught me

1545
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: about being consistent, being on time, being dedicated to your craft,

1546
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: being where you're supposed to be, and understanding that you

1547
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: have to there's eighty five percent of life. It's doing

1548
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: what you have to do to get to do the

1549
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: fifteen percent.

1550
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: And then you want to do that's right.

1551
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: And if you understand that and you you're at peace

1552
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: with it, then you have no problem working your butt

1553
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: off to get to that fifteen percent. It's like, I'm look,

1554
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: I know, I got a grind and I appreciate the lessons.

1555
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure your son will appreciate the lessons that you're

1556
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: teaching and how hard you're working in the hours you're

1557
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: putting in because you also have a great wife who's

1558
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: let her letting him know. Hey, your dad's out there

1559
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 1: making it happen for you.

1560
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 4: That's right.

1561
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 8: It's funny listen to it reminded me of you know,

1562
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 8: today we're talking about our style to the team and

1563
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 8: one of the words we use is relentless and so

1564
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 8: but Ad had a heck of a team meeting today

1565
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 8: and I hope he doesn't mind me sharing this, but

1566
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 8: we talked about relentless, like what it means is a

1567
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 8: football player and a team, you know, all that type

1568
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 8: of stuff. And Ad was like, you know what he

1569
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:43,560
Speaker 8: told the defenses. You know, I was thinking when I

1570
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 8: heard when I heard, when I was listening to Mike talk,

1571
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 8: was my mom, you know, like, you know, he grew

1572
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 8: up without a dad for the majority of his of

1573
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 8: his childhood and she just worked away to make that

1574
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 8: opportunity for a kids and you're just like, man, it

1575
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 8: just it's true. Relentless is one of those old school things,

1576
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 8: is that like it comes to life and you can

1577
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 8: have she probably in those moments growing up and there's

1578
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 8: a lot of hard times, but the impact she's making

1579
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 8: is just really great.

1580
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 2: I mean. And then on the other side, like, well

1581
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 2: we're able to do I.

1582
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 8: Mean, she worked were coaching the NFL, man, like, we

1583
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 8: got it pretty This is pretty awesome. You know, like

1584
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 8: people are have like real stuff going on right there,

1585
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 8: and I mean, you know there's there's challenges in our job,

1586
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 8: but you have to mind yourself that.

1587
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 2: I mean, we've got a pretty dang good.

1588
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: We've got a pretty dang good and you're doing a

1589
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: great job at it. Anything you want to tell the

1590
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 1: fans because they're so excited and they got all these

1591
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 1: questions about all the prognosticators got your ranked at the

1592
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: bottom of the NFC West. Is there anything you you

1593
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 1: feel about that? Or is that bulletin board material? And

1594
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: it's like I kind of know the answer, but I'll

1595
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: let you speak it.

1596
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 8: You know, we don't use it as bulletin border material.

1597
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 8: I think one of those things we talked about going

1598
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,799
Speaker 8: from year one year or two is let's just focus

1599
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 8: on us and becoming the team that we say that

1600
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 8: we want to become, and then the result will take

1601
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 8: care of itself. If we do we say we want

1602
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 8: or what we want to become, it's gonna like the

1603
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 8: results are going to happen some form or another, and

1604
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:09,959
Speaker 8: so let's.

1605
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 2: Focus on that.

1606
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 8: My my response would be like, does I don't what

1607
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 8: were the odds last year going at this time of

1608
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 8: the year, or who had I don't remember?

1609
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 2: Nobody remembers, Nobody remembers.

1610
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 8: It's it's like I always say, it's like, uh, it's

1611
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 8: like fairy dust, right, you know, it's just like Wolf of.

1612
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 2: Wall Street, Like it's a wazie. It's a woozy.

1613
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 8: It's just it's stuff out there that people are interesting,

1614
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 8: which is cool, but it doesn't mean anything.

1615
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean anything. You still got to line it up,

1616
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: put the pads on, and see how it goes.

1617
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 2: They play the game.

1618
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: That's the That's the beautiful thing about football any given Sunday.

1619
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: I know it's a cliche thing, but really that's how

1620
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 1: it goes. People are like, oh man, you got the

1621
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: hardest schedule or you got the easiest schedule, like none

1622
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: of that matters. Last year really doesn't matter. We're going

1623
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: to strap it up this year. And there's going to

1624
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 1: be some team that that you expect to win every day.

1625
01:10:58,720 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 4: That's right.

1626
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: It has struggles, and there's gonna be some team that

1627
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 1: worked their tail off this offseason that you're not expecting

1628
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 1: to be great, that's going to just be there at

1629
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: the end and you're gonna be like, WHOA, how did

1630
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: they end up here? Because these are grown men with

1631
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: ambitions and drive, and they work their butt off, and

1632
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: I think you guys have put together a great OTAs offseason,

1633
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: a great training camp, and I'm looking forward to seeing

1634
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: the product.

1635
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks man, I love it. I appreciate your brother,

1636
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 2: I appreciate your time. Thank you