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Speaker 2: thanks again for joining in. Tonight's show is with you

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Speaker 2: until seven o'clock. As always, we've got a full show

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Speaker 2: loaded with pertinent Colts topics here late in the season.

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Speaker 2: Our rough agenda tonight is as follows. Coming up in

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Speaker 2: just a couple of minutes, Colts Head coach Shane Steichen

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Speaker 2: will join me here in studio and we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: the loss of the Jaguars on Sunday and the colts

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Speaker 2: unfortunate six game slide here currently speaking late in the season.

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Speaker 2: And then following that, Colts radio analyst Rick Van Turrey

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Speaker 2: and Joe Wrights will join me on the program to

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Speaker 2: begin breaking down what happened in week seventeen at Lucas

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Speaker 2: Oil Stadium, and then we'll also take a deep dive

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Speaker 2: into the reasons the Colts season took a harsh turn

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Speaker 2: in mid November. But as always, we want to hear

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Speaker 2: from you tonight, You the fans, you helped drive the show,

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Speaker 2: and we want your social media questions throughout the course

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Speaker 2: of the night. Tonight we'll pose those to head coach

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Speaker 2: Shane Steichen and to Rick and Joe. Submit your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on X with the hashtag Colts Roundtable, and we'll get

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Speaker 2: to the best ones throughout the course of the next hour.

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Speaker 2: But let's start first with the facts. The Colts fell

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Speaker 2: three to seventeen in the regular season home finale. It

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Speaker 2: was the sixth straight loss for the Colts, and it

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Speaker 2: drops their record down to eight and eight. The Colts

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Speaker 2: were eliminated from playoff contention before they even took the

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Speaker 2: Chargers on Saturday. But the Colts battled all game long,

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Speaker 2: but it wasn't enough against a Jacksonville team that's now

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Speaker 2: twelve and four and winners of seven straight games, and

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Speaker 2: they sweeped the Colts here in twenty twenty five. The

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Speaker 2: Colts scored points on their first two drives of the game,

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Speaker 2: a Jermaine Pratt pick in the end zone. But the

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Speaker 2: Colts racked up one hundred and thirty yards in the

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Speaker 2: the Colts only mustered seventy four yards and six first downs.

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Speaker 2: Day mirrored the Colts overall offensive output After gaining forty

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Speaker 2: That's the first time he's failed to go over one

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Speaker 2: radio studio and coach Sunday obviously was a very tough day.

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Speaker 2: You knew going into the game that you were eliminated

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Speaker 4: The good stuff that happened in the game obviously some

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Speaker 4: having the you know, kick returns that he had were huge,

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Speaker 2: Well, Philip Rivers started for the third straight week. You know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure he just won a few throws back

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Speaker 4: And you know, credit to Jacksonville in their defensive scheme.

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Speaker 2: Well, the offense got out to a fast start, you

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Speaker 2: And you got Tyler Warren going to five catches over

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Speaker 2: know some have said, well, you know, Tyler Warren is

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Speaker 2: And how would you describe the season he's had for

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Speaker 4: Around first and foremost, I thought he's had a tremendous season.

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Speaker 2: All Right, So going into week eighteen, I know you

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Speaker 2: What what factors will you consider in your decision knowing

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Speaker 4: you know we signed Philip, you know, to come in

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Speaker 4: all factors into it, and those are just ongoing conversations,

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Speaker 2: You know, again, hypothetically, if Philip Rivers has indeed played

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Speaker 4: his passion shows he still has the passion at forty

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Speaker 4: You know, obviously his family very being very supportive of

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Speaker 4: it's just been it's been an honor and privilege, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he just talks about I mean, how much

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Speaker 2: lot of guys were in this locker room in twenty

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Speaker 3: Cool baby raising hell today.

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Speaker 2: offense didn't do much past the first two drives of

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Speaker 2: the game and their final nine possessions. The Colts produced

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Speaker 2: just ninety eight yards and had seven points. So, Rick,

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Speaker 2: the floor is yours. What are your high level takeaways

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Speaker 2: from the Colts playing a game where they knew they

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Speaker 2: were eliminated before kickoff? Kind of a unique and different dynamic.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, you know, the slide has continued into

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Speaker 5: really what has now become a historic collapse. But the

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Speaker 5: effort was there. I truly expected I said that before

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Speaker 5: the game that the Colts would play with pride and dignity,

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Speaker 5: and without question, they did that. I thought the defense

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Speaker 5: rose up off the mat, you know, after the Niner game.

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Speaker 5: I thought lou was super aggressive and his called, you know,

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Speaker 5: and they gave the high scoring Drags a fight. They

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Speaker 5: really did. There was the bend quality, as you said,

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Speaker 5: a lot of yards three seventy two forty nine passing.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there was that, but they really refused to

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Speaker 5: break this time. There really was no bend and break.

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Speaker 5: You know. There was the you know, the three critical

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Speaker 5: stops in the red zone, two of them, you know,

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Speaker 5: actually basically eliminated fourteen points, the takeaway on fourth down,

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Speaker 5: all those things really really kept it close, you know,

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Speaker 5: the you knows, as you know, we talked about it before.

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Speaker 5: You know, the Jags came in average in the last

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Speaker 5: six weeks thirty three plus points a game, and so

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Speaker 5: holding them to twenty was a reel accomplishment. I thought

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Speaker 5: of Node. I thought Pratt obviously had some big plays.

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Speaker 5: I thought Mitchell played his tail off. I did have

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Speaker 5: to say this, I thought Lawrence was absolutely amazing. Some

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Speaker 5: of the pressure that was on him and the way

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Speaker 5: he got hit and he didn't flinch, and he made

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Speaker 5: perfect throws, including that key third and ten late you

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Speaker 5: know in the game where they had to make that

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Speaker 5: first down, you know where he hit it out on

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Speaker 5: the sidelines. But I thought our defense played hard. The

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Speaker 5: only the only thing that I would be critical of,

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Speaker 5: because I made such a point of it, is to

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Speaker 5: allow Lawrence to run unimpeded in the red zone. You know,

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Speaker 5: That's that's stupid. Special teams was on fire. Groupie has

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Speaker 5: been an outstanding get Rigo was terrific, and Doland was

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Speaker 5: really the star of the game. His returns gave us

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Speaker 5: a chance. His put covering all day long was tremendous.

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Speaker 5: He really affected field position in every way and gave

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Speaker 5: us a start. As a matter of fact, without question,

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Speaker 5: he should be wide receiver number two opposite Piers to

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Speaker 5: give us another guy that can blister and can get

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Speaker 5: downfield offense. After the quick start, you know, continued to

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Speaker 5: struggle like they have really since the fibula problem back

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Speaker 5: to Danny. In the eleven losses since mid season, the

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Speaker 5: seven losses, you know, again, the Colts have only scored

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Speaker 5: twenty plus one time and JT hasn't come close to

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Speaker 5: one hundred yards and you really don't have to know

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Speaker 5: much more than that. I mean, you're just now gonna

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Speaker 5: win a lot of games with two hundred and four

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Speaker 5: yards and one hundred and thirty five passing and three

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Speaker 5: point seven per play. The killer, as tight a game

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Speaker 5: it was, though, was the you know, the fourth down,

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Speaker 5: fourth and ten suicidal play. And really what really killed

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Speaker 5: us was the inn exception there in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 5: that gave them the final position, you know, get to

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Speaker 5: get the tree the three. You know, that was really

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Speaker 5: the dagger. The tough thing is, you know, this regime

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Speaker 5: has now been here three seasons, you know, and they're

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Speaker 5: twenty five and twenty five, which is the landmark of mediocrity. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 5: now with the injury to Danny, the quarterback situation is

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Speaker 5: still murky. The defense is twenty fourth. So you know,

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Speaker 5: effort is effort cannot and we played hard, and to

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Speaker 5: their credit, they did, but effort cannot be the only answer.

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Speaker 5: What's really important is you've got to have competence from

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Speaker 5: the top of your organization to the final player on

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Speaker 5: your team in order to get this thing turned around.

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Speaker 5: And it needs to be turned around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, coach, a great break down by you right there.

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Speaker 6: You know, I think for me high level in this game,

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Speaker 6: it came down to the end. You know, we lost

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Speaker 6: the fourth quarter again for the sixth straight time, so

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Speaker 6: you know, the six losses in the skid, the Colts

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Speaker 6: have not won a fourth quarter. And you know, for me,

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Speaker 6: this was more offense driven. Right after that seventeen seventeen,

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Speaker 6: it's tied up. The offense gets the ball three more times.

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Speaker 6: First drive was derailed by a sack and you know

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Speaker 6: that wasn't on the offensive line as much. There was

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Speaker 6: nobody open on that first one. You know, Rivers had

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Speaker 6: to hold on the ball. The second time, you know,

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Speaker 6: coach mentioned it. They bring the cover zero blitz. He

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Speaker 6: throws the quick out route and the ball did get

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Speaker 6: tipped at the line, and then they're there for the interception.

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Speaker 6: And then the third one, you know, third and five

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Speaker 6: critical situation. You know, we give up a sack and

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Speaker 6: you know, I know Travis is a young guy and

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Speaker 6: he's battling, but you know he let Walker beat him inside,

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Speaker 6: and you know we were sliding on the protections. So

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Speaker 6: that's something that those guys him and Gonzolvez will learn,

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Speaker 6: you know, in terms of how far do you have

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Speaker 6: to set? You know, Good's almost going to be in

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Speaker 6: your backpock. Can you overset him to let him go inside?

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Speaker 6: But that critical sack. I'm third and five brought up,

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Speaker 6: you know, the fourth and eleven. You know that we

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Speaker 6: didn't get and so it's just tough, right. I just think,

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Speaker 6: you know, as a as a former player, you know,

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Speaker 6: as a fan, you know, somebody who grew up loving

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Speaker 6: this team and was fortunate to put the horseshoe on

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Speaker 6: your helmet. You know, you had such an amazing start

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Speaker 6: to the season, you know, through eight games, I mean

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Speaker 6: you were doing things historically offensively in terms of your

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Speaker 6: points per game and no hunting.

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Speaker 3: You know, you leave Berlin, you're eight and two.

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Speaker 6: You're on a nine hour trip back home thinking, you know,

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Speaker 6: are we going to you know, host one playoff game

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Speaker 6: or two or three? And then it all, you know,

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Speaker 6: started coming unraveling with Jones's injury. And I know we'll

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Speaker 6: get into it in terms of you know, one score

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Speaker 6: games and how the Colts did you know, against kind

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Speaker 6: of the upper echelon competition, but I think it's a

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Speaker 6: good reminder this is such a quarterback driven league and

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Speaker 6: when Daniel Jones was healthy through ten games, we were

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Speaker 6: doing some some really really great things offensively, but kind of,

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Speaker 6: like coach mentioned, because of that injury and the achilles,

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Speaker 6: and you know, when does he come back, how is he?

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Speaker 3: Is he one hundred percent? How quick?

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Speaker 6: You unfortunately, are going into the offseason with questions remaining

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Speaker 6: about your quarterback. And that's been a continued theme for

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Speaker 6: this franchise over the last six seven years.

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Speaker 3: So there's gonna be a lot of tough days.

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Speaker 6: You know, you don't want to be in off season modes,

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Speaker 6: so to speak January fifth, but we're going to be

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Speaker 6: with this team, and that's just the reality that you

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Speaker 6: kind of have to face. But I do think, you know,

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Speaker 6: it's really a tale of two seasons, so to speak,

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Speaker 6: in terms of the first ten games where we're at

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Speaker 6: how good we were, and then you know, the first

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Speaker 6: injury to Jones and then obviously he tears the achilles,

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Speaker 6: and it's just been you know, kind of completely different since.

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Speaker 2: Well said right there by both of you, Rick Ventury

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Speaker 2: and Joe Wrights, and those are their reactions and high

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Speaker 2: level takes from watching the game film from Sunday's Week

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Speaker 2: seventeen lost to the Jacksonville Jaguars, and now the Colts

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Speaker 2: get ready for the final game of the season against

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Speaker 2: the Texans. That game down in Houston, with the Texans

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Speaker 2: still having a chance to win the AFC South with

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Speaker 2: a win, but they also need a Jaguars loss to

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Speaker 2: the Titans on Sunday as they close out the regular

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Speaker 2: season down in northern Florida. All right, Colts fans, remember

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Speaker 2: up segment three, we will transition move along and we'll

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Speaker 2: get into the biggest reasons why the Colts season fell

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Speaker 2: off the cliff unfortunately after a seven to one and

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Speaker 2: eight and two start to the season. That's coming up

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Speaker 2: when we return here on Colts Roundtable Live Tonight, brought

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Speaker 1: Oh look at the latest action with the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 3: Gain.

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Speaker 2: I'm Matt Taylor, joined by Rick Van Turrey and Joe Wrights,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to take a look at the biggest

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Speaker 2: reasons for the Colts fade. Here down the stretch, they

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Speaker 2: were eight and two flying home from Berlin, as Joe

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Speaker 2: alluded to in the last segment. Then at that point

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Speaker 2: they had a ninety eight percent chance to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: But after that, unfortunately, the Colts have lost as we know,

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Speaker 2: seven of their last eight and six in a row.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about the biggest reasons why the Colts

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Speaker 2: have missed the playoffs. Now for the fifth consecutive season,

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Speaker 2: and the big ones are in no particular ular order.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: We've got injuries, We've got not being able to win

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Speaker 2: close games, and all of the mischances. And then the

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Speaker 2: third reason is not being able to beat good quality teams,

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Speaker 2: teams who are over five hundred teams that are in

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Speaker 2: the playoff picture. So let's start first with injuries. So

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Speaker 2: the Colts were seven to one when defensive tackled to

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Speaker 2: Forest Buckner suffers a herniated disk in Pittsburgh that essentially

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Speaker 2: costs him the rest of the season, and then a

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Speaker 2: fractured fibula hinders starting quarterback Daniel Jones after the bye

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Speaker 2: that limits the offense, forces him to be a little

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Speaker 2: bit more pocket focused. Three weeks ago in Jacksonville, he

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Speaker 2: tears his achilles. He's lost for the season. Cornerback Charvarius

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Speaker 2: Ward played in only seven games with three concussions. He

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Speaker 2: and Sauce Gardner played in essentially only one game together,

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Speaker 2: as Gardner has dealt with a calf injury since the

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Speaker 2: weekend after Thanksgiving. And then you know, you just throw

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Speaker 2: in the following players here missing significant time at some

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Speaker 2: point this year. Guys like Ashton Doolan and Jalen Jones,

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Speaker 2: Taekwon Lewis, Kenny Moore, Anthony Gould, Chris Lamon's, Daniel Scott,

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Speaker 2: Spencer Schrader, Braden Smith and Justin Wally and Hunter Waller

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Speaker 2: two rookie defensive backs with really high ceilings. They never

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Speaker 2: saw the field because of training camp injuries. So Rick,

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Speaker 2: I mean, how much did the injuries cripple the Colts

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Speaker 2: down the stretch of the season.

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think there's any question that the injuries

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Speaker 5: had a big, big factor in it. You can't use

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Speaker 5: injuries as an excuse because they're going to be there

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Speaker 5: year in and year out. The NFL is a league

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Speaker 5: of attrition, so it has to be there. But to me,

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Speaker 5: of all the things that you mentioned, and all of

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Speaker 5: those things are conglamorate, but the two that kill us

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Speaker 5: okay is one on offenses, Danny Jones, and that's it

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Speaker 5: really started with the fibula problem. And then of course

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Speaker 5: he was out, but the fibula problem reduced his ability

649
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 5: to get out of trouble for them to move him

650
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 5: like he was doing so well in those early games

651
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 5: and basically he could erase a blitz if we didn't

652
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 5: have it picked up. He was killing people on the

653
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 5: bootlegs and immediately that reduced the package. And really we're

654
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 5: exposed in Atlanta. Even though we won the game in Atlanta,

655
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 5: but the blitzes started in Atlanta. The blitzes and our

656
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 5: vulnerability started in Atlanta. And as that happened, it also

657
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 5: it was like losing two for one. Once you didn't

658
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 5: have that element, that Danny Jones element. Then it also

659
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 5: affected losing Taylor. So there isn't any question. And I

660
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 5: also think leadership wise, you know, Danny was the MVP.

661
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 5: He brought something to us that we didn't really have,

662
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 5: and it was absolutely deflat him. Not to just lose

663
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 5: his talent, which is huge, but to lose that leadership

664
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Speaker 5: in that charisma that he brought. And then the other

665
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 5: one is on the other side of the ball, and

666
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 5: I can say the same things is Buckner. Buckner not

667
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 5: only is the one ambient player on that defense, but

668
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 5: he also is the leader, not vocal, but he brings

669
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Speaker 5: something to your team. He has something special, special qualities.

670
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 5: He goes to the ball. Plus he's a terrific player.

671
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 5: He's the one guy that if you think you can

672
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 5: block one on one, that's why you give him the

673
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 5: ambient tank. You can't do it. He's gonna beat, he's

674
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 5: gonna play the run, he's gonna rush the passer. And

675
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 5: once he was gone, and then we'll get into this later,

676
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 5: all of a sudden it exposed. But we really don't

677
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 5: have is pass rush. And so I think you know

678
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 5: to say that, you know to say that those injuries

679
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 5: didn't matter. They all matter, But those two guys I

680
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 5: think were fatal. I really think they were fatal in

681
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 5: that sense. Now I'm a little disappointed. I'll be honest

682
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 5: with you, because I look at them from a coaching

683
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 5: I don't think we did a good job coaching wise

684
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 5: of adaptation to those losses, you know, particular Danny Jones,

685
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 5: and not finding a way to keep JT involved. And

686
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 5: I'll use the opposite example of Shanahana San Francisco, who

687
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 5: really wins with two guys. He wins with McCaffrey and

688
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 5: he wins with Kittle, and he finds a way to

689
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 5: keep them alive no matter what. And then this week

690
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 5: he loses even Kittle and still puts up forty two

691
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 5: on the Bears. So it's also it's also imperative that

692
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 5: your staff is able to adapt and go from there.

693
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Speaker 2: All right, that's a deep dive into the Colts injuries

694
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: this season. Let's talk about number two. Reason number two

695
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: for the Colts fall not being able to win close

696
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: games and all of the mischances Joe. I mean, the

697
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: Colts are now three and six on the season and

698
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: one score games. They've lost four games in a row

699
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: that were decided by one possession, and Sunday it was

700
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: kind of microcosm of that with the Colts leading ten

701
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 2: to nothing, not being able to close the deal. They

702
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: are outscored in the fourth quarter. And on top of that,

703
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: the Colts have had so many chances to win some

704
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: games that they lost along the way. I mean, you

705
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: go back to Week four against the Rams, they drop

706
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: that touchdown or they fumble the ball at the goal line,

707
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: they lose by seven in Kansas City, just kind of

708
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: throwing that game out there. They led twenty to nine

709
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 2: heading into the fourth quarter, couldn't close the deal there,

710
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: lost that game in overtime. A couple of weeks ago

711
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: weekend after Thanksgiving against Houston, they let some bad officiating

712
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: breaks beat them, but they had some kicking problems on

713
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: special teams in that game Seattle, just a couple of

714
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 2: weeks ago, Joe, they lose a game despite the defense

715
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 2: not giving up a touchdown. So how much have all

716
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: of the close calls added up to the misery of

717
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: this season for the Colts missing out on the postseason?

718
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 3: Yeah?

719
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 6: Man, I think you summed it up right there. I

720
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 6: mean the six game slide. They've almost all been one

721
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 6: score games outside of down there in Jacksonville, and to me,

722
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 6: the fourth quarter it's like a magnifying class.

723
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: Everything is just magnified.

724
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 6: More so critical errors in terms of mistakes, penalties, missed assignments,

725
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 6: you know, and then just individual efforts and plays. And

726
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 6: unfortunately the Colts have been on the wrong side of this,

727
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 6: you know, over the last six weeks. I think offensively,

728
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 6: it really started with Jones's injury and hurting his mobility.

729
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 6: And coach mentioned a little bit last segment, But what

730
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 6: did teams do. They just started coming more and more

731
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 6: and more downhill, knowing he wasn't going to be able

732
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 6: to evade him with his legs, and we weren't able

733
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 6: to make people pay in terms of taking shots and

734
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 6: winning one on one and hitting big plays on those

735
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 6: cover zero blitz and then offensively, you know, so many

736
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 6: times the fourth quarter it's it got to have it.

737
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 6: You know Jacksonville had third downs, you know, third and ten,

738
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 6: got to have it. You know, they make it, they

739
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 6: go nine yards on the sideline and the Lord sneaks it.

740
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 6: We have the third and five and then we have

741
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 6: a critical mistake. We give up a sack to Walker.

742
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 6: And so I think, you know, when you're in these situations,

743
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 6: and when you have a team that hasn't won, they

744
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 6: haven't been to the playoffs, I do think a lot

745
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 6: of that is just that confidence you're know that you're

746
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 6: going to go out and make the play versus kind

747
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 6: of waiting for the other shoe to drop. And that's

748
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 6: a tough thing, right. Confidence is a tricky thing. When

749
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 6: you got it, you never think you'll lose it. When

750
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 6: you don't have it, you never think you get it back.

751
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 6: And there's a million little things that go into there.

752
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 6: But we just did not make the big plays. You know,

753
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 6: our explosive plays in terms of what we were able

754
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 6: to do significantly dropped off, you know, after Jones's injury

755
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 6: in Berlin, where other teams continue to make explosives on us,

756
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 6: and then coach mentioned at the pass rush, because there's

757
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 6: one position on defense when you can significantly impact the

758
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 6: games snap after snap after snap, when the game's on

759
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 6: the line, and that's pass rush. You could be the

760
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 6: best corner in the league, you know, but if your

761
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 6: sauce gardner out there, they can just choose to throw

762
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 6: it to the other side. But every time that they

763
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 6: dropped that back to pass, you can rush the passer.

764
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 6: And so I just think critically that's got to be

765
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 6: our most important position. Obviously, going to figure out the quarterback,

766
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 6: the most important position is you've got to have more

767
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 6: influence there. There were too many times when it was

768
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 6: the fourth quarter and we had to get a stop

769
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 6: and we just never got pressure on the quarterback. We've

770
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 6: never closed out a game, so to speak, just by

771
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 6: winning those one on one individual rushes.

772
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 5: Just to add one thing to it, and I think

773
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 5: Joe's hit it all is one of the big red

774
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 5: lights for me, and you know, it's something that we

775
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 5: follow week after week after week. The Colts ended up

776
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 5: twenty fifth in the league in fourth quarter defenses, so

777
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 5: they very seldom ever closed out a game. And it

778
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 5: was two things. It was pass rush, as Joe said,

779
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 5: and a lot too soft the coverage there in the

780
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 5: last couple of minutes of the game.

781
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 2: All right, we're taking a look at the three biggest

782
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: reasons why the Colts have faded and this season has

783
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 2: taken a turn for the worst. Let's go to reason

784
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: number three, and it's just not being able to beat

785
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 2: good teams. They started the season eight and two before

786
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: their six games slide, but in their first ten games

787
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: of the year, the Colts played only four teams with

788
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: a winning record. The Colts have faced an absolute gauntlet

789
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: of a schedule since their bye week. Five of the

790
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: colts six opponents down the stretch here have won at

791
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: least eleven games and are all in playoff field. The

792
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: Colts have lost six straight games the teams who are

793
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: over five hundred. They're just two and seven against those

794
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: teams with a winning record this season, but dating back

795
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 2: to last year, Rick, the Colts are three and fourteen

796
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: against teams with a winning record. So even when they

797
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: had a healthy team at the beginning of the season, Rick,

798
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: the question to you is how close were they to

799
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: being a quote real contender and how far away are

800
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: they now? After what's transpired here late in the season.

801
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to separate, and you just hit it.

802
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 5: I'm going to separate years past to this year because

803
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 5: I think there's a difference. You know, as Parcels always said,

804
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 5: you know you are what your record says you are,

805
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 5: and I think that's true to a point. There is

806
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 5: no question. It's not just who you play, it's when

807
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 5: you play them. And we have played sizzling hot teams

808
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 5: here in the second half the season. I do believe

809
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 5: this though, I honestly, in my heart I thought I

810
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 5: thought about this overnight. If we would have kept if

811
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 5: Danny Jones would have stayed healthy and Buckner would have

812
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 5: stayed healthy, I believe we'd have played with these teams,

813
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 5: and I think we would have won our share of

814
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 5: these games. I really and truly do. Would we have

815
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 5: won them all, No, because you're playing competitive, tight teams

816
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 5: where you know where it comes down to the you know,

817
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 5: last four or five minutes. But I just believe, totally

818
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 5: in my heart, had we kept just those two guys,

819
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 5: just the heart and soul of the offense and the

820
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 5: heart and soul of the defense, I think this was

821
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 5: different this year. I think Danny brought something to our

822
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 5: offense that we haven't had for a long time. In

823
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 5: the past, our record was it was who we are.

824
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 5: I think the two it's like two seasons. In the

825
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 5: beginning of the season we were great. Second half of

826
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 5: the season, we've slid off the table. I think there

827
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 5: would have been a happy medium, even playing these good

828
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 5: teams had we kept those two bel cows healthy.

829
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, and coach just to add to that more than

830
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 6: I can ever remember, I just think I've been kind

831
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 6: of joking but serious with it. You know, it's it's

832
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 6: a tail of two cities. It's it's a tail of

833
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 6: two seasons. It's Charles Dickens for the Colts because it's

834
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 6: just a it's.

835
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 3: A what it could, a shitt of what if. But

836
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 3: you know, Jones at least.

837
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 6: Doesn't have the the significant injury. But also just you know,

838
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 6: with this fibula, we'ren't for sure a playoffs team, and

839
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 6: so I think that's what's so hard. It's one thing

840
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 6: to be talking, you know tonight and we're four and

841
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 6: twelve and we've been out of it and we're not

842
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 6: a good football team. It's another team that we did

843
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 6: historic things for the first half of a season, and

844
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,959
Speaker 6: we could easily be sitting here, you know, eleven twelve

845
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 6: wins and talking about it.

846
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: So that's a you know, if you think about the two.

847
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 6: Number one seeds Denver, you beat him Seattle, you very

848
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 6: well could have beat him at home. And so I

849
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 6: mean it's like you're you're close, but also you're you're

850
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 6: far away. It's it's paradoxical just in terms of that

851
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 6: feeling I have about the Colts right now.

852
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well said right there, all right, those are the

853
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 2: biggest reasons for the Colts falloff on the year, which

854
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: again has resulted in them missing the playoffs for the

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Speaker 2: questions here. This is coming in from Adam. First up,

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Speaker 2: he wants to know, Hey, Joe writes like Adams question,

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Speaker 2: he does not beat around the bush. He's asking Joe

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Speaker 2: what is the best decision for the Colts to make

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Speaker 2: at quarterback in Week eighteen? Sticking with Philip Rivers or

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Speaker 2: turning things over, possibly to a rookie quarterback in Riley

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Speaker 2: Leonard to make his first start in the NFL, seeing

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Speaker 2: what he's got in terms of developments heading into twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six. But he would be making his first start

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Speaker 2: against one of the best defenses, if not the best

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Speaker 2: defense in the NFL on the road again, the Texans.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question.

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Speaker 6: I know Shane said, you know, he'll figure that out tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: But I think you got to give Leonard the ball,

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Speaker 6: you know, I think and again come in Philip Rivers

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Speaker 6: for what he did to come in here and play

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Speaker 6: winning football. For the most part, I thought, give the

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Speaker 6: Colts a chance to win, you know, after not playing

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Speaker 6: in five years, and really you felt just the leadership,

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Speaker 6: the spark with everybody else, you know, kind of around

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Speaker 6: the team. But I think now that you're mathematically out

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Speaker 6: of it, I think you give Leonard a chance and

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Speaker 6: let him play sixty minutes against one of, if not

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Speaker 6: the best defense in the NFL, you know, down there

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Speaker 6: in Houston with loudness, crowd noise, and I just think

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Speaker 6: that gives you a lot better idea. Again, it's one game,

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Speaker 6: but you know, it's not a preseason game, and that

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Speaker 6: gives him valuable experience. I think he's a guy that, yeah,

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Speaker 6: you know, you want to be a part of this

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Speaker 6: franchise for a long time. So I think that you know,

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Speaker 6: Leonard is going to get the ball and get the

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Speaker 6: chance to go down there and play, and then you know,

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Speaker 6: obviously you're gonna have a little bit different offense.

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Speaker 3: You know, you get to see him in you know,

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Speaker 3: kind of.

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Speaker 6: That half Saturday afternoon half Sunday afternoon offense for Leonard,

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Speaker 6: and I think, you know that hopefully maybe he can

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Speaker 6: do some things that galvanize the run game when you

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Speaker 6: think about his own legs and you know, given Houston

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Speaker 6: somebody else to think about in terms of kind of

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Speaker 6: throughout the football game.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Keith's question. This is for Rick.

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Speaker 2: He's asking, Hey, Rick, in the grand scheme of things,

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Speaker 2: I know how you feel about this. This is probably

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Speaker 2: down the list of things that are really plaguing the Colts,

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Speaker 2: But I can't understand why Jalen Jones does not consistently

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Speaker 2: play more in our defense. And then he goes on

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Speaker 2: to say, I know he was heard at the beginning

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Speaker 2: Keith wants to know Rick, what gives on Jalen Jones.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm right with you there, Keith. He is one

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Speaker 5: of my favorite guys. Even though he's not a real

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Speaker 5: fast guy, he's long, he can press, you know. And

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Speaker 5: I go back to those glory days back at Grand

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Speaker 5: Park when Wally came in and was balling it and

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Speaker 5: he was really battling. He was battling Jalen for that

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Speaker 5: three corner and it was pretty close. Really, it could

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Speaker 5: have gone either way. Wally had a little bit of

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Speaker 5: fourth corner, you know, to come in on dime against

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Speaker 5: We were playing tons of man then and he just

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Speaker 5: looked to me like he was gonna be just outstanding. Now,

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Speaker 5: obviously the injury and the way it lingered actually killed him,

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Speaker 5: But with all the injuries toward you know, and Gardner

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Speaker 5: when he came back and and he did start a game,

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Speaker 5: and really, in my opinion, he's only he only had

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Speaker 5: the one bad play on the third and fifteen when

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Speaker 5: But he played almost you know, very few reps. What

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Speaker 5: was a Matt five or six in the last two games.

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Speaker 5: But the amazing thing is in those games when he

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Speaker 5: played two good tight ends. He had two really good

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Speaker 5: plays against Kittle, one in the red zone the week before,

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Speaker 5: and then Sunday he had a really good play on Strange,

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Speaker 5: who also is a really good tight end, a really

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Speaker 5: good breakup and a critical third down situation. You know,

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Speaker 5: the kid is a great competitor. Like I said, he

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Speaker 5: lacks a little top end speed, but he's tough, he's

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Speaker 5: got long arms, and you know, if nothing else down

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Speaker 5: the row, I think he can be one of those

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Speaker 5: guys that you can, you know, match on a tight

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Speaker 5: end and play the hell out of him coming up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was a mainstay, a consistent starter for

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Speaker 2: the Colts on defense in the last two years to

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Speaker 2: regular season finale for the Colts in a rematch with

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Speaker 2: the Houston Texans. Houston, by the way, has clinched a

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Speaker 2: playoff birth as they defeat the Chargers on Saturday, So

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Speaker 2: Bowl Era to qualify for the postseason. After an zero

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Speaker 2: to three start, they've won eight consecutive games, second longest

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Speaker 2: winning streak in franchise history, and they beat the Colts

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Speaker 2: twenty to sixteen back in Week thirteen. That was the

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Speaker 2: Sunday after Thanksgiving, So Joe, I'm going to go to

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Speaker 2: you first. How do you summer? The weekend that was

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Speaker 2: for the Colts, another loss, another setback in the division

1011
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Speaker 2: and the realization that you're out of the playoffs, and

1012
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Speaker 2: more questions than answers for this team heading into the

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Speaker 2: final game of the regular season. Just where are you

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Speaker 2: at psychologically with the Colts? And how do you guys

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Speaker 2: as players, handle a week eighteen game closing out the

1016
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Speaker 2: season when you know that this is going to be

1017
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Speaker 2: at the playoffs? Are no longer a realization?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I played in some of those, and for me, Matt,

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Speaker 6: it's two things. One, it's nine and eight sounds a

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Speaker 6: heck of a lot better than eight to nine. And

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Speaker 6: number two is this is a team that you don't like,

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Speaker 6: a division rival, a team that came into you in

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Speaker 6: a game that we thought we should have won and

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Speaker 6: maybe there was a little bit extra help that we felt.

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Speaker 3: So I'm coming to this game angry.

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Speaker 6: I'm coming this game fired up, saying this is a

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Speaker 6: division team we don't like and they may have a

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Speaker 6: shot to win the division, but they ain't doing it

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Speaker 6: Sunday at one o'clock. So that's kind of the message

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Speaker 6: for them and coach, I know you've already dug into Houston.

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Speaker 6: Have they changed a lot since we played them four

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Speaker 6: weeks ago? Are they doing the same type of stuff.

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Speaker 5: No, really pretty much the same type of stuff. Again,

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Speaker 5: this is a very good team, a very hot team,

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Speaker 5: as Matt said, with a real plan. You know, it

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Speaker 5: starts with I think, just a superb coach in Demiico Ryans.

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Speaker 5: This is now in his first three years. This is

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Speaker 5: his third playoff. This will be his third playoff appearance.

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Speaker 5: He has two playoff wins along the way. I think,

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Speaker 5: very much like the Niners, very much like the Jaguars.

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Speaker 5: What he and the staff have done is they really

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Speaker 5: realize and they've really developed who they are. They know

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Speaker 5: who they are, and they and in knowing that, they

1044
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Speaker 5: have developed a very simple formula for winning. And it's

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Speaker 5: three things. Number One, they're gonna play great defense. I mean,

1046
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Speaker 5: their number one in the league in scoring at sixteen

1047
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Speaker 5: to six, and their number one in the league in

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Speaker 5: total defense, led by their two great edge guys, you

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Speaker 5: know and Anderson in Hunter, the two premier combo guys

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Speaker 5: in the league. Number two, they consistently win the turnover battle.

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Speaker 5: They're a plus fourteen for the season, which makes them

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Speaker 5: number two in the league. And then, even though I

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Speaker 5: don't see them as a great offensive team or even

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Speaker 5: a real good offensive team. But what Stroud and Collins

1055
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Speaker 5: the Colts Killer have been able to do against US

1056
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Speaker 5: is get just enough points to win. As in that

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Speaker 5: first game, you know it was twenty to sixteen, they

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Speaker 5: held us, you know, they held us to their average

1059
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Speaker 5: and they got just a little bit more. And it's

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Speaker 5: those three things and they do it over and over

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Speaker 5: a week after week, and that's what's made them such

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Speaker 5: a contender, yep.

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Speaker 2: That is they look at the Texans coming up in

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Speaker 2: week eighteen at NRG Stadium and that's all the time

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Speaker 2: we've got tonight on this edition of Colts Round Table

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Speaker 2: Live again, my thanks to Rick and Joe gentlemen. Wonderful

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Speaker 2: job tonight as always, and we will convene one final

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Speaker 2: time a week from tonight and put a bow on

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five season. And like Joe said, hopefully

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Speaker 2: you're talking about a nine to eight team instead of

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Speaker 2: an eight to nine squad in twenty twenty five. My

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Speaker 2: thanks to Shane Stiching again who joined in the first segment.

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Speaker 2: And if you miss any of that or the entire show,

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Speaker 2: the podcast version is going to be posted here quickly

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Speaker 2: on Colts dot Com and the Colts mobile app and

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Speaker 2: also the Colts Podcast channel anywhere you download your podcast.

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Speaker 2: Have a great week coming up, Happy New Year everybody.

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Speaker 2: Coming up later on this week again, I'm Matt Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Colts Roundtable Live here is on your home for the Colts.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening tonight on ninety three five and one

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Speaker 2: oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 3: Good night,