WEBVTT - Who Gets to Name Continents?

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<v Speaker 1>should know from house Stuff Works dot com. Hey you,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, There's Charles W.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Bryant, and Jerry's over there. So this is stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you should know. Geography. We are in North America, that's right, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>According to some yeah, actually according to everybody. No, not everybody. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to it, Okay, we don't want to spoil

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<v Speaker 1>like basically the fact of the podcast right already. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is as I said about geography, and if this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing quotes your boat, I strongly suggest you

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<v Speaker 1>go look at how maps work or read or listen

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<v Speaker 1>to that episode. Yeah, it was a good one. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember we've found that like people, other people see the

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<v Speaker 1>world the map upside down. Sure, you know, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>all depends on how you look at it, agreed, And

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<v Speaker 1>that actually kind of comes into play, not just with

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<v Speaker 1>how you look at a map and say, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on top and you're on bottom, so therefore you must

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<v Speaker 1>be developing. Um Naming continents is a kind of a well, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we humans are kind of big on names, I guess. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're big on location. We're big on identifying with where

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<v Speaker 1>we're from, with where we live, that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the whole in group, out group, Yes, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh boy, I have to say, for a short

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<v Speaker 1>ish podcast, which this is going to be, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be our longest one, let's take an head break. No,

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<v Speaker 1>not yet. I hazard to say that I learned more

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<v Speaker 1>in this than ten Barbie podcast than the ten Barbie podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually that's not true. I learned a lot in that

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<v Speaker 1>one too, that one, but this is just loaded with

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<v Speaker 1>interesting stuff because I am not the biggest geography buff.

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<v Speaker 1>For someone who is a math or a maps buff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well you like for the artistry, right, Yeah. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was just ordered a great new map. Um. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I could remember the guy's name, but it was read

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<v Speaker 1>article on this super detailed, awesome map of the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>and this guy spent years and years, uh drawing Arby's

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<v Speaker 1>all over the country. Not an Army's map. That would

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<v Speaker 1>be great though, although you can just follow your nose,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really need it always knows. Yeah, just like

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<v Speaker 1>smell the Horsey sauce. I love that stuff, although the

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<v Speaker 1>Arvy sauces by far the superior of the two. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you got to mix them. That's the key.

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<v Speaker 1>Not always. I'm more of a beef and cheddar cheddar

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<v Speaker 1>mix with the Arby's sauce it's delicious, and the horses sauce,

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<v Speaker 1>although I'm okay with horse sauce. Sometimes I haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>Arbies and forever. Yeah, it's delicious. That disgusting roast beech

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<v Speaker 1>sandwich is so good. All right? Uh? Anyway, I ordered

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<v Speaker 1>this amazing map, and um it hasn't arrived. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait for it to get here, though. It's gonna Actually

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna frame this one, I think. Okay, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have all your maps framed. No, you need like a huge,

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<v Speaker 1>huge wing of your house and just have every map

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<v Speaker 1>you have right framed on the wall. I should be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to see a pattern here. That would mean

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<v Speaker 1>I have a huge room to my house, all to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not true. Unfortunately. You know how to swing

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<v Speaker 1>a hammer, don't you. Yeah, just build another room, Chuck room,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish my friend so Chuck. We were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>um continents in their names and all that stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It turns out that when you think about the continents names,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them seem kind of whole hum or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>There's actually some really great stories behind these things, um

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<v Speaker 1>and the We should probably start at the very beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>way back way way back in even further back than

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<v Speaker 1>that million years ago. If you looked at the planet Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have seen that there weren't a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>different continents, that there was actually one huge continent that

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<v Speaker 1>wore a headman and had enormous like four arms named Pangaea.

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<v Speaker 1>What a stud that continent was. And there was one ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and the name of that ocean was Panthalassa. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't all divided up. It was just one big

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<v Speaker 1>chunk of land and surrounded by one massive ocean. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then as we'll see later, this is the prominent

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<v Speaker 1>theory by the way, Right, Okay, we don't like, no

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<v Speaker 1>one was around back then. Two million years are going

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<v Speaker 1>and be like note to two thousand sixteen. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the way things are land wise around here. Um. No.

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<v Speaker 1>And the this this theory actually was we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it before. It had to have been in the earthquakes episode.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy was awesome. Alfred Wegener. Yeah, back in I

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<v Speaker 1>think nineteen fifteen he published his theory on continental drift. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty amazing. Um. The theory, well, there's some reasons

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<v Speaker 1>behind it. But the theory is that you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth that's made up these big plates. If you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to our volcanoes or earthquake episodes, we talk a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about that, and over time these things cracked apart and

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<v Speaker 1>shifted and drifted. Uh. And we now have many continents, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not what people thought for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they guess they just took for granted that the

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<v Speaker 1>continents were the way they were. But Alfred Wegner Um,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, he noticed on a map, like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like you could really tuck Africa, um, east

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<v Speaker 1>or West Africa into the eastern part of South America

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<v Speaker 1>really nicely. Yeah. And in fact, the more I look

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<v Speaker 1>at it, the whole thing looks like a puzzle that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fits together. Yeah, if you're if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a brain. So that's where he got his idea first,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he started setting about proving it or supporting

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<v Speaker 1>coming up with evidence. How about that? And um, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things he looked at was coal steams along

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<v Speaker 1>edges of these puzzle pieces and found that they were

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<v Speaker 1>composed of basically the same stuff. Yeah, like cole in Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>Deposits in Pennsylvania were similar or the same to those

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<v Speaker 1>in Poland and Germany and Great Britain. Yeah, which shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>happen because what coal is its basically compressed former organisms

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<v Speaker 1>decaying matter, right, And so you would think that these

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<v Speaker 1>different organisms would have evolved differently on different continents. If

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't together, and the fact that they were the

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<v Speaker 1>same and and decomposed in about the same amounts suggests

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<v Speaker 1>that they were all part of the same land mass

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<v Speaker 1>at one point. Pretty neat. And then he also found

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<v Speaker 1>fossils on different continents that really shouldn't have been the same. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he saw plant fossils and said, wait a minute, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>finding this stuff in places that are wildly different from

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<v Speaker 1>one another, these fossils. So maybe again that lends to

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<v Speaker 1>my theory. Or how about this mountain range, the Appalachian Mountains,

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<v Speaker 1>very similar to the Atlas Mountains of Morocco. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was all one big mountainous mass at one point, And

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out they probably were. What was the name

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<v Speaker 1>of that mountain range were part of the Central Pangaea Mountains,

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<v Speaker 1>which apparently forms through the collision of the supercontinents of

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<v Speaker 1>gond Anna and uh Laurussia. Yeah, because and we're we're

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<v Speaker 1>also um. In addition to this how stuff works article,

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<v Speaker 1>you found a great article by Tia Ghosts, who writes

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<v Speaker 1>for Live Science and write some pretty great stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is really good, and Ghosts um Is basically just

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<v Speaker 1>broke it all out, like how Pangia formed what Pangia

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<v Speaker 1>broke into. It's a really interesting article. Yeah and concise.

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<v Speaker 1>I like articles. It's not fluff, you know, right, just

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<v Speaker 1>like packed with get to it right at the beginning. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I love it and don't let up, don't stop to

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<v Speaker 1>have enough. So uh. In the article they talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the uh the process that spanned a few hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>years with a continent called Laurentia. That's a great continent

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<v Speaker 1>name part of it, which includes part of North America

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<v Speaker 1>and some other micro continents that formed eventually You're America.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not bad. It sounds like a craft work album

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<v Speaker 1>who it does totally. Uh You're America crashes into Gondwana,

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<v Speaker 1>which I mentioned before I liked to. I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come and say, I like these these pre current continent

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<v Speaker 1>continent names, pre white dude names, right, I guess so,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think they were named by white dudes, probably

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<v Speaker 1>more creative white dudes. Uh and A. Gondwana included Africa, Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>South America, and uh Indian subcontinent. Yeah. So like all

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<v Speaker 1>these it's so hilarious that all of these, um, these

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<v Speaker 1>ideas of nationalism and all this man if you've just

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<v Speaker 1>gone back a few hundred million years ago, you'd be neighbors.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's all just lighten up, exactly. And that's actually a

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<v Speaker 1>thing that we we talked about in the Maps episode two,

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<v Speaker 1>is like when you draw a map, you're you're making

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<v Speaker 1>a political statement. It's just there's such a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>otherness and togetherness based on geographical distribution, and it's it is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's interesting. It says a lot about the human psyche. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we should do a podcast one day on the human

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<v Speaker 1>family tree. Yeah, we're super interesting. Yeah. Uh So, getting

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<v Speaker 1>back to the super continent, a couple of hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, Gondwana split off from laur Asia. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>good one. To fifty million years later Gondwana broke up,

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<v Speaker 1>uh and then they had sixty million years ago North

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<v Speaker 1>America split off from Eurasia. And these are all the

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<v Speaker 1>prominent theories again. Yeah, well they follow the continental drift theory. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean it's not like they're just like, let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say the Indian subcontinent broke off from this continent.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, no, they they have gone through and done

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<v Speaker 1>the geological comparisons and have seen like when this basically

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<v Speaker 1>matched up to that, and that's what they've come up with.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty astounding that you didn't do that if you

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<v Speaker 1>have that enough patients. Yeah, in brains. Uh. So Interestingly

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<v Speaker 1>they talked to a little bit in the article about

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<v Speaker 1>a climate and what it might have been like back then.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe the interior of this large supercontinent was completely

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<v Speaker 1>dry because it was surrounded by mountains. Uh. Maybe parts

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<v Speaker 1>of what is now North America used to be like

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<v Speaker 1>the Amazon rainforest, like a super lush jungle, right, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be kind of cool. Yeah, But if once you

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<v Speaker 1>got into the interior, when you crossed the what was

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<v Speaker 1>it the Central Um the Central Pangaea mountains, like you

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<v Speaker 1>were just you apparently there was a ring of mountains

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<v Speaker 1>that that ran around the middle of the whole Pangaea

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<v Speaker 1>in the interior, and um, it just produced rain shadows

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<v Speaker 1>that kept rain out from the interior of the continent.

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<v Speaker 1>So it would have just been just a totally arid desert.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty cool, It is cool. Uh, And of course this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't over. They point out in the article that things

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<v Speaker 1>are still changing. Um, Australias is creeping up on Asia. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>very slowly, of course. Yeah, pretty cool and uh parsh.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of Eastern Africa is just trying to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of the rest of Africa. Yeah, Eastern Africa staying so long.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm going off on my own. I'm gonna seek

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<v Speaker 1>my own fortune and adventure. Of course, this is over

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<v Speaker 1>the course of hundreds of millions of years, so you

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<v Speaker 1>will likely not be around unless the Singularity happens soon. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>then you may and you can be like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. The people of Sydney will have a docking

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<v Speaker 1>party with the people of Hong Kong. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So you want to take a little break here

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll talk a little bit about these names. Yes, so, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the theory of continental drifting. The whole idea

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<v Speaker 1>is that, um, there's a layer of magma and then

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<v Speaker 1>on top of it are the continental plates and they're

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<v Speaker 1>constantly shifting and moving again, albeit very slowly, and when

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<v Speaker 1>they do, they expose a fissure and you've got volcanic activity,

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<v Speaker 1>or two plates slide up against one another, or one

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<v Speaker 1>subducts below the other one and you have earthquakes. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of evidence that continental drift is real

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<v Speaker 1>and that things like hollow Earth are probably not correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably have you noticed every time we do any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of geography, especially when we mentioned plate tectonics, that the

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<v Speaker 1>hollow Earth people come out of the woodwork and just

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<v Speaker 1>send us emails and leave comments, and yeah, man, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're they're like the high frue tost Corncer people.

0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.520
<v Speaker 1>They're like really active in the comments section proto in

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<v Speaker 1>the gang. Oh wait, that's Middle Earth different uh. And Pangia,

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<v Speaker 1>we should mention, is Greek for all lands or all earth.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a great name for the original super continent, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And Panthalassa is all ocean, the ocean that surrounded it.

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<v Speaker 1>And Pangia was what's considered a true continent. And we

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<v Speaker 1>should say this because they'll come up, But a true

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<v Speaker 1>continent is a landmask surrounded by ocean on all sides.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at you Asia in Europe. I know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know in fact part of actually I think you

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<v Speaker 1>sent this idea, didn't you. Yeah, what the whole idea

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<v Speaker 1>for the show was from you. But not too long ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I think Emily asked me. She was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is Russia? Is that part of is it Asian?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it European, and I was like, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know asa. Let's go look, well it depends part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Well, yeah, part of it. Then same with

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<v Speaker 1>Turkey is is split and uh, you know, some people

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<v Speaker 1>identify with Europe, some people identify with Asia. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>the term eur Asia. Well, no, I got that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I got it from this article. But I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>that like Russia itself was split, you know, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it says. Like I could see like um uh

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<v Speaker 1>Kazakh stand or something being like straddling the sides, but

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize like Russia itself was split. Some that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting, maybe some Russians. All right, in tell us

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<v Speaker 1>how you identify? Are you Eurasian, Asian, European? Which one? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Because obviously a lot of these lines are drawn culturally.

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<v Speaker 1>Um right, because their mountain ranges that that separated. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not I mean, it's a geographical border, but not when

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<v Speaker 1>you're speaking in continents, it's not incontinents. Should we tell

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<v Speaker 1>them Jerry's bad joke? Before we started, Jerry said, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we're technically all incontinent, And I said, no, technically

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<v Speaker 1>we're all on continent. And then she said, or within continent,

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<v Speaker 1>and none of the three things that we said. We're funny.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's how things happen before Yeah, that's why we

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<v Speaker 1>don't release this stuff beforehand. It's usually much better than that.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get down to this, chuck. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about naming continents, right, all right. Apparently with continents,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are prominently involved with this discovery, you typically

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<v Speaker 1>get some sort of naming rights. Yeah, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these are very uh just conjecture goes into maybe

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<v Speaker 1>who named these and who didn't? Um. One big exception

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<v Speaker 1>is Antarctica because it's new ish. It's like the Poluto. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as when people discovered it. Uh. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go to the New York Times and read

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<v Speaker 1>in uh nineteen four about the naming of Antarctica if

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<v Speaker 1>you were so inclined to be bored to tears. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I love those old articles. I like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them too, Like remember the subway accident where people got

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<v Speaker 1>shot out of the subway tunnel that was being dug.

0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.800
<v Speaker 1>That was an interesting article. This one is it's bad?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you read it? No? Just the seno? Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>a man named Sir John Murray was a great exploring oceanographer. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He was part of the famous HMS Challenger Expedition, which,

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<v Speaker 1>for my money, is the greatest of all ocean going explorations.

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<v Speaker 1>The Challenger. Yeah, man, sixty nine thousand nautical miles, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at the map of this thing and

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<v Speaker 1>the route, it was just it's staggering. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a map of it? I don't own one, but I

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<v Speaker 1>looked it up today. It's pretty neat. And I never

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<v Speaker 1>knew HMS stood for Did you know that Her Majesty's Ship? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I never knew that. Oh, it's just like HMS. The

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<v Speaker 1>there's another one that I don't like, r MS I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. And uh, what is the USS just United

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<v Speaker 1>States ship? I don't know. I never thought about that either.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably probably someone from the Navy could maybe point us

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<v Speaker 1>in the right direction. So anyway, John Murray, even though

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<v Speaker 1>the expedition, the Challenger expedition did not they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>buzzed Antarctica. Uh, they didn't actually see the land, but

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<v Speaker 1>they came close. But he would later go on to

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<v Speaker 1>do like actually go to Antarctica. Okay, I was gonna say, like, then,

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<v Speaker 1>how did he know anything about it. I guess his

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<v Speaker 1>interest was Pete. He saw icebergs and stuff. I'm coming back, um,

0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.879
<v Speaker 1>because this place is cold. He's come. I'm coming for you,

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<v Speaker 1>Taro and tiro uh So. In nineteen o four, UM

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<v Speaker 1>he actually was able to name it as a combination

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<v Speaker 1>of aunt opposite an Arctic, the North Pole. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>opposite of the North Pole the South Pole, pretty neat,

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<v Speaker 1>and which one has penguins? And so the Antarctica has

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<v Speaker 1>penguins and the North Pole doesn't. Isn't that right? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember, but that's like that's the case, right, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>one have one and the other one doesn't? I know,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a lot of emails. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing this again. I know I might as well

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<v Speaker 1>just took a car battery up to my nipples or something.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll get the same. I got you on that one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was good. UM. So let's talk about America because

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<v Speaker 1>I just realized something to check. This may be played

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<v Speaker 1>in UM geography classes in like middle school and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So if that's the case, I want to go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and apologize to all the middle schoolers. Just had to

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<v Speaker 1>hear me say that that's okay, and don't don't try

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<v Speaker 1>that at home. It doesn't matter of what grade you're

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<v Speaker 1>in or how how long out of school you are agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So America the name America. If you went to

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<v Speaker 1>took Civics class or geography and elementary school and high school,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably got the story that Amerigo Vespucci was it

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<v Speaker 1>was named after him, European explorer. Yeah, that guy has

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<v Speaker 1>been slandered, maligned, maybe worse than Columbus even apparently he

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of rivals back in Italy, and um

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<v Speaker 1>they worked very hard to sully his name, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was quite effective over the centuries, to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>there was a big, almost a revival in in hatred

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<v Speaker 1>for Americo Vespucci, and a lot of really um uh

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<v Speaker 1>inaccurate ideas were revived based on propaganda, contemporary propaganda against him.

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<v Speaker 1>So so what's the idea that he ripped off Columbus. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not It depends on your definition of ripped off.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't have the impression that he ever said

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<v Speaker 1>I discovered America. He said Columbus discovered America. But the

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<v Speaker 1>distinction between Vespucci and Columbus is that Columbus didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>that he hadn't hit already, that he hadn't hit undiscovered

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<v Speaker 1>or previously undiscovered by European land. Right, he thought that

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<v Speaker 1>he had just found another route to the West Indies.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently until he died, Vespucci was the one to say,

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<v Speaker 1>no Europeans ever seen this before? Please, that was great, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like it. Um. And so he is the

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<v Speaker 1>one who supposedly this continent was named after because he

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<v Speaker 1>was the one to wreck gnize it as previously uncharted land. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's on record. Um. In fifteen o seven, a cartographer,

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<v Speaker 1>a German cartographer named Martin Valt semula our two favorite accents. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Italian and German, two of the only two you can

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<v Speaker 1>still do these days and not get taken to desk force. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He very famously made a map that was a big

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<v Speaker 1>effort in France. Uh, in the fift hundreds too, really

0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:34.760
<v Speaker 1>bring the modern map into the forefront and like these

0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:36.879
<v Speaker 1>old maps like these were made by a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>dummies who didn't know anything. So let's really expand our

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<v Speaker 1>geographic knowledge. And well, yeah this has when like mercater

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<v Speaker 1>started working. Yeah, so this this woodcut map that um

0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Baltzemula made was the first to depict a separate Western hemisphere,

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<v Speaker 1>the first to show the Pacific Ocean as a separate thing. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy, he was here, He's like, get that sea

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<v Speaker 1>monster off of there. I'd lea but see monster just

0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:04.280
<v Speaker 1>for fun. But he um, it's an easter egg there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there was one of these maps. There is one of

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<v Speaker 1>these maps still uh existing. And in two thousand three,

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<v Speaker 1>the Library of Congress bought it with donation from Discovery Channel.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is that right? Apparently nice for ten million bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in a castle for three d and fifty

0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:24.280
<v Speaker 1>years in southern Germany, and they're like, wow, let's buy

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<v Speaker 1>it and display it. I read about a guy um

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<v Speaker 1>who found an original copy of the Declaration of Independence

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<v Speaker 1>folded up behind a painting that he bought at a

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<v Speaker 1>yard sale four dollars amazing, and I think he sold

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<v Speaker 1>it for like a few million, and then Norman Maylor

0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:44.040
<v Speaker 1>bought it for like eight million. But yeah, it's somebody

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<v Speaker 1>just found the Declaration of It and it's I guess

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<v Speaker 1>in much the same way. That's amazing. I got nothing

0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:51.479
<v Speaker 1>in my attic. I even looked, Oh you did look.

0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, you don't know, but I guess

0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:58.800
<v Speaker 1>you do that some old doors doors can be worth Yeah,

0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the door from the early nineteen thirties. Yeah, people love

0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:04.840
<v Speaker 1>those things. They go crazy for him. I think it's neat.

0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:07.600
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I wanted like a stash of gold

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<v Speaker 1>bullion or something like Prohibition era money. What's your house

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:18.639
<v Speaker 1>abelt like nineteen Prohibition? Yeah, I guess so, labe, some

0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:24.719
<v Speaker 1>old booze would be delicious. So um. The reason this

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<v Speaker 1>map is significant by is that it says America like

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<v Speaker 1>North South America are designated America by this map. And

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<v Speaker 1>this this map that is in question was from when

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<v Speaker 1>was it fifteen o seven? And um, somebody said, hey, buddy, um,

0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 1>why did you call it America? And he said, I

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<v Speaker 1>did it in honor of America Vespucci. So the first

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<v Speaker 1>guy who really uses the word America is on record

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<v Speaker 1>apparently is saying he named it America after Americo Vespucci.

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of people said that's a lie, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a historical fallacy, it's inaccurate. One guy went so far

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<v Speaker 1>as to say that Amerigo Vespucci actually changed his name

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:13.639
<v Speaker 1>after America was named, and that his real name was

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:21.400
<v Speaker 1>um uh the Giovanni Vespucci, no Alberigo Vespucci, and that

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:26.480
<v Speaker 1>he changed his name to Amerigo from Alberigo to conveniently

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 1>align with the naming of America. Right um. But apparently,

0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 1>and this is this again, this is contemporary stuff. People said,

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you changed your name, you big liar um. And then

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<v Speaker 1>in like the nineteen seventies, I think some historian revived

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:42.160
<v Speaker 1>it and like that was the idea. But somebody else

0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>went back and apparently found his baptismal certificate that lists

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<v Speaker 1>him as Amerigo Vespucci. The thing is is that still

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that America was named after Vespucci. Cho There

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:59.159
<v Speaker 1>is a long um tradition among cartographers that had already

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:02.640
<v Speaker 1>been established by this time America was discovered to name

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:06.199
<v Speaker 1>new lands. If you're naming it after an explorer, you

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 1>named it after the explorer's last name. If you want

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 1>to name it after royalty, you named it after the

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:16.479
<v Speaker 1>royalty's first name. So think about it. Georgia um uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia um, and then Columbus or Hudson, like the explorer's

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 1>last name. A royalty's first name is how you name thinks.

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<v Speaker 1>So they would have named America Vespucci Land the United

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 1>States of Vespucci exactly, rather than America. That'd be great.

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 1>But if it's not named after Vespucci, then where did

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 1>America come from? Well there are some theories. One is

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 1>that it was named after the americick America americ kim,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a Mayan word. Actually, Yes, mountains in Nicaragua. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where my money goes, you think? So so Um.

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<v Speaker 1>People think that Columbus and Vespucci both went to these

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 1>mountains after American natives said, hey, there's gold in them

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 1>dar Hills, which of course is really all they wanted anyway. Well,

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>that's not true. They wanted to discover new lands, but

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>hopefully new lands with cold and people you could subjugate. Um,

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:12.359
<v Speaker 1>So that they went there, and that it was named

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<v Speaker 1>after those mountains, yeah, not bad. And did you say

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<v Speaker 1>both Columbus and Vespucci supposedly traveled to these mountains. Yeah,

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:23.439
<v Speaker 1>because they wanted the gold, right, So that's a pretty

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:27.679
<v Speaker 1>good reason to call it that. And um, when you

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<v Speaker 1>combine that with the evidence that a cartographer likely would

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 1>have named it Vespucci Land rather than America after America, Um,

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 1>it's entirely possible that America is actually named after a

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 1>indigenous Mayan word for some mountains. I think it means

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>place of wind in Mayan. Interesting. Uh, another theory and

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<v Speaker 1>this one I don't think it's very I don't think

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:55.640
<v Speaker 1>it holds water. But there was a British Royal rep

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:59.360
<v Speaker 1>named Richard Emery A M E. R i k E.

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<v Speaker 1>Supposedly explorer John Cabot became the first well this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>supposed in he definitely became the first to sail under

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<v Speaker 1>the British flag to the New World. And apparently when

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<v Speaker 1>he got back he got a big wad of cash

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<v Speaker 1>from America and he was like, Hey, I'm gonna name

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<v Speaker 1>the country in continent after you. Then but that there's

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<v Speaker 1>really nothing to substantiate that, right, and then Cabot retired

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<v Speaker 1>to make some pretty decent butter Oh yeah, so that him,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, So okay, surely it's him. Still, maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>need several hundred years. Do you want to take a

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<v Speaker 1>break again, Yeah, let's break, and then we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite continent, Australia. So he chucked. You were telling

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<v Speaker 1>everybody our favorite continent is Australia. Yeah, that's what Lex

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<v Speaker 1>luthor Gene Hackman is less Lex Luthor wanted in Superman.

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 1>He wanted Australia to his own or Superman too. Um yeah,

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>remember Electric the three? Uh the three uh Terrence uh

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Terrence uh stamp in the gang came down and he

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<v Speaker 1>and Lex Luthor was working in cahoots with them, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, well, what do you want in return

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<v Speaker 1>for delivering Superman? He said Australia. I don't remember that man.

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<v Speaker 1>Gene Hackman was great. I saw this the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>a movie with Robin Williams and Walter Matthau. Rob Williams

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>was like a baby at the time, but like they

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<v Speaker 1>foil a robbery and like become heroes the thing and

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<v Speaker 1>then they, yeah, they go to like a survivalist camp

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<v Speaker 1>or something. I think it's called Survivors. I think so

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I saw like the first time, I totally but I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, man, there's no oh one, no one on

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<v Speaker 1>the planet like Walter math Ou anymore. Like he was awesome.

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, god, I can't imagine Robin

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Williams and Walter math how working together? And then didn't

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<v Speaker 1>they do like Moscow on the Hudson too? Wasn't that one?

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>And then I went on I don't think math that

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<v Speaker 1>was in that one. Oh he wasn't. I thought he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was. I could be wrong because I never

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>saw it. Those early Robin Williams movies were great. Recording

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>to Garp. I never saw that one. That was by

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>the guy who did sider House Rules, Right, John Irving,

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 1>He's pretty great. Um. But then it made me think

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>about Couch Trip. You remember that movie with Dan Nacroyd

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 1>and Walter Math. I didn't see it was good. Yes,

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it was so good. I haven't seen it in decades,

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>but I guarantee it still holds up. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>math owen Ackroyd. Yeah, one's like a con man pretending

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<v Speaker 1>to be crazy and the other one actually is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Who was the only person who consents that this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>a con man? You know, I've never been there. Sorry,

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>he's a con man pretending to not be crazy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well that makes more sense. It's great. I've never been

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<v Speaker 1>the hugest danach roy guy. Uh, he definitely is danach

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<v Speaker 1>roy Dana k Royd, and I don't dislike him, but

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Walter Math I was providing a nice slow burning distraction

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>over here. If you don't like danach Royd. You'll still

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<v Speaker 1>like couch Chip, Yeah, employ the odd couple math A Lemon.

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I ever saw that original one.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's called movie Sidebar with Josh and Chuck,

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 1>and that started with Geane Heckman. We didn't mean talk

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>about him. Oh I love Jane hack He needs to unretire,

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>is what I'm saying. Like, go make another movie your

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<v Speaker 1>swan song, That's what I say. Alright, we own Eugene Hackman. Australia,

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>which is what Gene Hackman is, like Luthor wanted. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a bit of a mystery to most. People

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<v Speaker 1>will point to Matthew Flinders in two as the namer

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<v Speaker 1>because he was the first to circumnavigate it and create

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<v Speaker 1>that map. And Australias means southern, so it all makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>right yeah, back in back in the day, Um, the

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>cartographers are already aware of Australia before Matthew Flinders circumnavigated it,

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 1>but they called it the Terra Australis, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>southern land. Matthew Flinders is like, I like the sign

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<v Speaker 1>of Australia more. It's more pleasing than the ear apparently,

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:26.479
<v Speaker 1>is how it was put Um, the thing is is

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<v Speaker 1>and for a very long time, that's how Australia was named,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as anyone who was concerned. But then Australia's

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<v Speaker 1>National Library discovered a way older map from before eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>or two, from fifty five, Yeah, from a German astronomer

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<v Speaker 1>name Siriaco Yako sum Barth. That's a great name, great name,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all German if you ask me, except for

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<v Speaker 1>the yaka thing. Uh, sum Barth is but that's Siriaco.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely doesn't look German. But yeah, fifty five, that's like

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<v Speaker 1>way way before. Yeah, and apparently there's map that are

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<v Speaker 1>even slightly older than that around and one of them

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<v Speaker 1>might have been produced by Mercator himself. Uh. That also

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<v Speaker 1>refer to the area around Australia as Australia something, so

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<v Speaker 1>not everyone was referring to it exclusively as the Terra Australis.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's probably it's probable that the Syriac go Yaka

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<v Speaker 1>zoom Barth is the one who first labeled it Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we should do a podcast on the history

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<v Speaker 1>of Australia, Super Interesting, starring Hugh Jackman for the World

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<v Speaker 1>War two part by the way when I mentioned Hugh

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<v Speaker 1>Jackman is P. T. Barnum. Okay, he is in fact

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<v Speaker 1>playing P. T. Barnum in an upcoming musical version of

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>the movie. But right right, either didn't know, or I

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<v Speaker 1>subliminally knew, but I didn't overtly know. I thought later

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<v Speaker 1>on after I found that out, that you've just been

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 1>messing with me the whole episode. Well, I I apologize

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<v Speaker 1>for assuming that that's all right. I either didn't know,

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>or maybe I had read that and just forgot or something,

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 1>because you said it like three times. Yeah, or maybe

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I should get into cast. If you didn't know, then

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<v Speaker 1>hats off to you because that was prescient. Uh So,

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<v Speaker 1>now let's move on to Oh, did you see some

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>of the suggestions we got though? Oh for P. T. Barnum. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that my favorite one was John c Riley.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd be an odd John c or he'd be an

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 1>odd P. T. Barnum, but he could totally do it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw one. Someone said Tom Hardy, who like he'd

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>be great in anything, but he's in everything right now.

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>And then someone sent Cole Meany, who was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like the the names, like, I know the name, who

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<v Speaker 1>is it that he's like the English John c Riley.

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<v Speaker 1>He sort of looks like he's older though, right or

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>he may be Irish. Yeah, he's a little older. Yeah, yeah,

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I know who he is. They kind of look alike

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>a bit Cole. Mean, he's got a little more dapperness

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>to him, a little more suave. Nois maybe, well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing about John c had the swave? Have you seen

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>we need to talk about Kevin? Oh, you all love

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 1>it the movie He's a sleeper with John c Riley

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>and Till the Swinton about um, they have a kid

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 1>who's a bad kid until the Swinton's having to deal

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:18.879
<v Speaker 1>with it. Interesting, really great movie. It's on Netflix right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I love John c Riley, so he's kind of a

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>prop in the background for this. It's mostly Till the

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<v Speaker 1>Swinton and I appreciate hearing that he knows Okay, there's

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 1>no way he played that role and doesn't. Now. I

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 1>never knew we could talk so much about movies in

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>this one. I didn't see that coming. Um, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the other continents, um, Africa, Asia, and Europe. Basically,

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>what it boils down to with the rest of these

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<v Speaker 1>is they were likely named by sailors who had to

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<v Speaker 1>call them something. Yeah, probably um, and they're like, Africa

0:34:56.320 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>has a few different contenders that are pretty good. There's

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 1>a a afrak people who are in the northern part

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<v Speaker 1>of Africa, their their Berber tribe. Not a bad source,

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense, um. And then apparently at PreK in Greek

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 1>or a prika and Latin means sunny, right, yeah, makes

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:22.959
<v Speaker 1>sense to uh. And then there's uh so who who knows?

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 1>The point is there's no documentation for when Africa was

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>first named, and it was most likely Africa. Europe and

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Asia were named by seafaring folks who were like, we're

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 1>going this place, and they needed a name for this

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:42.839
<v Speaker 1>place so they their families would know where they were

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>to go look for him if they didn't come back,

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.959
<v Speaker 1>and so they came up with names like Europe and Asia. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenician sailors. Uh. It's believed they may have used their

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<v Speaker 1>proximity to the sun, because Asia might come from a

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:00.800
<v Speaker 1>c u a q for sunrise or east in Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>which is of course west uh closer to the sunset

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>if you're standing in the east. Uh e r e

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<v Speaker 1>b arab which means sunset or west that's a Phoenician word, right,

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.280
<v Speaker 1>So it's possible Phoenisi and sailors named Asia and Europe

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and there's other ones to like Europa as a Greek

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 1>um mythological figure right yeah um, and then uh, Asia

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>could have been named after a ruler named um Asios,

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 1>a Trojan ruler. Yeah. I don't think that's it. That's

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the fun thing about things where it's like no one knows.

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>You can be like that's not right. Yeah, you read

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>certain you read theories, and some make sense to you

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:45.439
<v Speaker 1>and some don't write. I like that. Uh, that's why

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I think math never appealed to me, and

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>why it does appeal to math fans because it's rules

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 1>apply and like there is a right and a wrong.

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm much more prone to be like to think about

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>something and have theories about it. Well know, they say

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 1>you read a lot of fiction, right, They say that

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>people who read fiction are much more open to um

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>ambiguous resolutions or non resolutions lacking closure. Um. And because

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 1>you so frequently get that from fiction, it leads to

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the question, though, which is first, are you attracted to

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>fiction because the usually has resolutions like there? Have you

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 1>been trained to accept resolutions like that. From appreciating fiction, well,

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:27.280
<v Speaker 1>back to movies. One of my favorite things, which really

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>bothers a lot of people, are movies with ambiguous endings.

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 1>If it if done right, I think it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the coolest things you can do in a movie is

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<v Speaker 1>to not wrap it up in a little bow and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of leave the end with a decision like what's

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>going on here? Suel Well maybe, um, I bet math

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:48.879
<v Speaker 1>majors hate that though, now that they think about, you know. Uh.

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 1>And then finally, some people, still, depending on where you

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>are in the world, don't recognize all the continents. No.

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 1>And this actually makes sense to me because we said earlier,

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 1>continent is a body of land surrounded on all sides

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>by a body of water, right, So that means that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the continents that we recognize over here

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>in the West as continents ain't continents. They're incontinents. So

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<v Speaker 1>according to some parts of the world, North American, South America,

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 1>it's just America, uh, and then Europe and Asia just Eurasia. Yeah,

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.240
<v Speaker 1>and that's it. I've got a great pavement T shirt

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>that has North America on it and it says Canada,

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:33.320
<v Speaker 1>and then Mexico and in the middle it says pavement,

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 1>and I get a lot of compliments on it, and

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's from people thinking I'm making a statement

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 1>like the United States is just a bunch of pavement

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 1>and like, you know, Canada Mexico aren't, when in fact

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 1>it's just the band or maybe they're all just pavement bands.

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>You can't tell. You can never tell these days. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you I'm Facebook friends with Bob the Stanovich

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 1>from Pavement. You didn't. I tricked him because we had

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:04.840
<v Speaker 1>some mutual friends. Your mom said that you have to

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 1>be friends with you on Facebook. Yeah. It's pretty great though.

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I like seeing insight into these like people our Revere.

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>He's a big horse racing guy. Oh yeah, yeah, he

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 1>likes the pony. Yeah. I don't like going to the

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 1>track necessarily, but I like the Big Three. Um, although

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I would go to the track whereas don't have them

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>around here. Yeah we don't. Uh, And bring it on.

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Send the email about how I'm wrong for going to

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:28.920
<v Speaker 1>the track or wanting to. If you want to know

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:32.840
<v Speaker 1>more about naming continents or geography or any of that jazz,

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 1>head on over to how stuff works dot com and

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:39.000
<v Speaker 1>type in geography in the search bar, and it will

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:42.359
<v Speaker 1>bring up a massive great articles. Since I said mess,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for listening mail, I'm gonna call this road tripping.

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 1>We get a lot of emails from people that listen

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to us while they're road tripping, yes, which is very nice. Hey, guys,

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>my husband and I are adventuring on a road trip

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:01.359
<v Speaker 1>from Texas throughout Florida. I've been addicted to the show

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of months now, but my husband has

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<v Speaker 1>not listened to a podcast in his life. I started

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<v Speaker 1>the driving in the trip, and he asked if I

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<v Speaker 1>could make it all the way to Florida. First of all, Husband, Tom, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty serious stuff. All right, we're in Texas, hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>can you make it all the way to Florida. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta kept some z s uh. I said that if

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<v Speaker 1>I could listen to stuff you should know, then I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't stop driving. He sighed regrettably, and then let me

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<v Speaker 1>turn an episode on five days into the trip. Every

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<v Speaker 1>time we get into the car, he now says, educate

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<v Speaker 1>me on stuff I should know. Our biggest debates are

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<v Speaker 1>deciding on which podcast to listen to next. We literally

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<v Speaker 1>made it to one of our destinations and sat in

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<v Speaker 1>the car for another fifteen minutes after a three hour drive,

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<v Speaker 1>just to finish an episode. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>what you do. And that is from Kim and Tom Kepler.

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<v Speaker 1>And since we are not recording too far out these days,

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<v Speaker 1>they're most likely still on the trip. Yeah, enjoy the trip,

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<v Speaker 1>be safe, have fun and drive you know, every now

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<v Speaker 1>and then. Tom. Yeah, really, Tom, let's get it together,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we. That's awesome. I hope they've just heard this. Yeah.

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