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Speaker 1: gets out, Dan, You never let that stuff get out

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00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: because that stuff's embarrassing. It's there are much finer points

435
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: in coaching contracts that have nothing to do right with

436
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 1: potentially embarrassing the guy. That never get out because that

437
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 1: stuff is considered private. The fact that this got out,

438
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I recognized that there was a lot of

439
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: pressure on Iowa after last season to try and show

440
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: some progress on offense because it was bad last year.

441
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: It's been bad for a long time, but it was

442
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: really bad last year. Yeah, And so to have this

443
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: out there in the public sphere, it just created an

444
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: absolute circus. And then there's a whole other side of this,

445
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: for me personally, which after the entire off season of

446
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: dunking on Brian Farrence of making fun of the guy,

447
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: then suddenly it felt to me like maybe this is

448
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: a natural human response. I don't know, I felt like

449
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: I hated on him so much that at least I

450
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: maybe we collectively started feeling guilty and then rooting for

451
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: Iowa to win in like the most ghastly way possible.

452
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 2: The reason why it got out is either one, somebody

453
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: just didn't like Kirk and Brian Farrence or the nepotism

454
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: involved with the offensive failure that's been involved. And two

455
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: Iowa needs to show important people, money people, that it

456
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 2: is a serious program and taking things seriously. And if

457
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: you just bring back Brian Farrence and you know, roll

458
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: out this offense one more time in twenty twenty three,

459
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 2: after twenty twenty two without any sort of explanation as

460
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 2: to why or what the expectation is for improvement, then

461
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 2: money drives up. Then you're not necessarily I mean, it's

462
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 2: the Big ten. There's always me money, but you're not

463
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 2: seen as a serious program, and it can be used

464
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: against you in recruiting. Not that what they do on

465
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: the field isn't plenty to use against Iowa on offensive recruiting.

466
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: But I think that's the idea that you have to

467
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: put out there that like, you're serious about higher aspirations

468
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 2: than you were in twenty twenty two than what you

469
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: showed in twenty twenty two.

470
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: I have as a gift that moment in time, back

471
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: in week two or three, whenever it was when we

472
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: thought Tyler Buckner was going to be the starting quarterback

473
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: for Alabama. That was a gift. That was a gift.

474
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I similarly have just most of the USF

475
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: Alabama game.

476
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so gift that was that was lt. You just

477
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: haven't seen Alabama in that position in a long time.

478
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: It felt like about a thousand years ago when I

479
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: jotted it down, right, But those really were uncertain times

480
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: this season, and when it felt like Alabama was coming

481
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: off the swivel, we were talking about it. I mean,

482
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: it seemed on some level like much of the preseason

483
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: discourse about Jalen Milroe not being ready, not being a

484
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: great passer, not being a this or that, certainly not

485
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,959
Speaker 1: having the experience, it seemed like a lot of that

486
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: stuff was coming true. And I think for a moment

487
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: in time, it did feel true. We weren't wrong in

488
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: that sense, but what a lot of us overlooked was

489
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: how they could make him better and how the coaching

490
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: staff could find a way to work with his skill set,

491
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: to scheme around it, to scheme with it and get

492
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: Alabama to the promised land. I mean, we should know

493
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: by now not to count Nick Saban out in nearly

494
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: any situation where he's got his back to the wall.

495
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: He just he knows how to perform in those types

496
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: of situations. But that moment in time the USF game,

497
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,239
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like I was hit with a

498
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: stun grenade watching that one. Yeah, it was true. And

499
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: I talk about this too, one of those deals where

500
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: you look at the app, you look at at sports Alerts,

501
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: whatever your app is that you like to follow scores on,

502
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: and you keep refreshing it, like what's going on here?

503
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: Is the thing stuck? Why is this not moving? And

504
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: you watch the game it's like, holy cow, what is

505
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: going on here? Dan?

506
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 2: I agree it was. It was an ugly moment. It

507
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: was an ugly watch. Alabama pulled it out, but the

508
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: and I think ty Simpson sort of improved over the

509
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 2: course of the season, but now having a potential competitor

510
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: for the starting quarterback job at Alabama now go back

511
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: to his old school to play lacrosse. I mean, it's

512
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: just a different version of Bama than we're used to.

513
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: So it's always nice to have somebody humanized that.

514
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: There was a moment in time as well where I

515
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: want to say it was our sec West preview episode

516
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: that we did where we went into detail about some

517
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: of our concerns around Jalen Milroe, which I still don't

518
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: think we're off base. He's gotten a lot better, But

519
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: at that moment in time in July when we're recording this,

520
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: who knew. We had no idea, right, We're just trying

521
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: to project forward. And some of the comments that we

522
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: got in response to that around Jalen Milroe and his

523
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: four to four elite NFL wide receiver speed, why would

524
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: they They didn't mean to bring Tyler Buckner down there

525
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: to be quarterback. They just brought him down because he

526
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: knows Tommy Reese's system. And like all these reasons that

527
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: we had Alabama people commenting on our video for why

528
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: they brought Tyler Buckner down, certainly not to play quarterback.

529
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: I thought of all of those folks the moment that

530
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: he stepped foot out on that field and wasn't the

531
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: Obama quarterback for early a minute in time. Rightfully so,

532
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: but easier, simpler, more tumultuous times. If you were rooting

533
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: against Alabama, things have obviously gone to a different place

534
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: since they're playing Michigan in the playoff in a couple

535
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: of weeks.

536
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of which, I have Northern Alabama gifting regular

537
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: Alabama Jordan Travis injury because Alabama's birth in this playoff

538
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: is a gift, an absolute gift from the gods that

539
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: everything could align the way it did for the Tide.

540
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: I still think, I still think this Florida State season

541
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: is a huge gift. Two. Okay, Florida State fans obviously

542
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: had a very bitter end, obviously did not shake out

543
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: the way you would have hoped. Finished the regular season

544
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: undefeated in a Power five conference by pretty much every

545
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: other measure that gets you into the playoff. Not this year,

546
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: for reasons that you know, we don't have to relitigate here,

547
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: but the fact that al the fact that Alabama got in,

548
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: I think is secondary to the fact that Florida State

549
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: did get back to this mountain top and for anyone

550
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: who's followed Florida State for any period of time, you

551
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: know it's been an incredible roller coaster ride from dunking

552
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, to dunking on previous coaches, to

553
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: looking at the talent level to being out recruited. For

554
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: the of Travis Hunter, who went to an FCS program,

555
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it has really been a journey to get

556
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: back to this day and age. And the fact that

557
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: they did it, the fact that they did it with

558
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Travis before he got hurt, I think was sort

559
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: of a gift to Seminole fans out there because he

560
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: has been obviously very loyal to the program and representative

561
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: of what I think Mike Norvell has tried to build there.

562
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: And the fact that they made it here. Maybe didn't

563
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: make it into the playoff, but the fact that they

564
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: made it here, the fact that we're having conversations like

565
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: the one we just had with Brandon Hoffman about Mike

566
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: Norvell has built a strong culture. He has found a

567
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: good way to balance high school recruiting with portal recruiting.

568
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: It seems like this is a program that is pointed

569
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: up and to the right. If you were looking at

570
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: a graph, and if you're a Florida State fan, it's

571
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: been a long time since you could feel confident in

572
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: saying that. So wish it would have worked out differently,

573
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: wish Jordan Travis would not have had that horrible injury.

574
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: But all things considered, Florida State getting back to this

575
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: point in its program, that's a cool story. That's a gift.

576
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: How about the full circle or the journey of Jaden

577
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: Daniels going from a highly touted recruit on the West

578
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: Coast that like people thought he was gonna go to

579
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: UCLA but didn't seem I think the story was it

580
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: didn't really click with Chip Kelly's offensive staff, like Oregon

581
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: went in a different direction, ends up at ASU in

582
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: a pretty tumultuous Herm Edwards situation. He has teammates clowning

583
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,239
Speaker 2: on him when he announces he's entering the portal and

584
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: like saying they're gonna help him pack his locker, and

585
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: then going to LSU and just dominating the SEC, dominating

586
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: the SEC, especially this year and even in a losing

587
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: effort a game like the old Miss game, like an

588
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: all time Old Miss and a loss in a losing

589
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: effort performance for Jaden Daniels coming away with the Heisman

590
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: just a pretty incredible story.

591
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: No, for sure, you mentioned Chip Kelly. I consider his

592
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: rant from like a week ago on the state of

593
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: college football one of those gifts. It seems like Chip

594
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: maybe on the way out at UCLA. They didn't make

595
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: the move this year. My guess is that the clock

596
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: is running, and based on everything we've heard, you know,

597
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: you can just read some of what the Beat writers

598
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: have to say, it doesn't seem like there's a whole

599
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: lot of love loss there between Chip Kelly and UCLA.

600
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: Certainly not if he's going public talking about how players

601
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: should share in the revenue. My guess is there a

602
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: lot of folks that don't want to hear a big

603
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: time coach say that. But I think speaking truth to power.

604
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: The school with the financial problems that you put the

605
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: financial problems, yeah, yeah, No for sure.

606
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: So him speaking truth to power in the way that

607
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: he did very publicly with how college football, in his

608
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: view should be set up. I thought that was one

609
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: of those rare moments where a coach kind of breaks character.

610
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: Chip's good at that, but I like hearing what he

611
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: has to say kind of on the point of the

612
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: Florida State debacle with the playoff. For me, maybe the

613
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: biggest gift of all the death of the four team

614
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: playoff when we pour one out for the four team playoffs,

615
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: please please? Okay, have you enjoyed it? No? Of course not. No.

616
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: I think it's stupid. I've always thought it was stupid.

617
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: You want it bigger? Yeah, okay, I've always wanted it bigger.

618
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: I've always wanted it bigger. If this were the year

619
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: of our Lord twenty twenty four, Florida State's not left out.

620
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: Florida State's in. Florida State's maybe a five. They're probably

621
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: playing at home against I don't know, Liberty, some group

622
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: of five team that sure is thrown into this thing.

623
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: They probably win that game going away and then have

624
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: a shot against a four seed. So I thought from

625
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: the minute that they put this four team system in

626
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: place that it was stupid. I've always felt that way,

627
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: and I'm frankly surprised that it took this long to

628
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: arrive at a situation where somebody gets screwed on this

629
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: level like Florida State did. And so I hate that

630
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: it happened to Florida State. I hate that it happened

631
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: at all, But I've hated the system more for the

632
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: entire duration that we have had it. I bid it

633
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: fond to do. Bury it upside down with a clove

634
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: of garlic and a silver bullet. Whatever it takes is

635
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: get rid of this thing asap. Let's move on, Let's

636
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: go to the twelf teamer.

637
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 2: I'm ready, all right, I'll connect the state of Florida

638
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: with a former Oregon coach and say, the end of

639
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech Miami tie an absolute gift, perhaps more to

640
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: people with connection to Eugene Oregon, but an absolute master

641
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: class from Georgia Tech and Miami at the end of

642
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: that game, not kneeling, running it, fumbling it, having an

643
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: incredible pass downfield, seal it for Georgia Tech. Uh, just

644
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: an entertainment gift for ninety nine percent of that.

645
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: Is a great call. The whole thing about Mario not

646
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: wanting to kneel, the aversion to kneeling and running out

647
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: the clock is yes, if as I mean, you've talked

648
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: about Mario guerrilla ball, yeah for a good long time now.

649
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: But the mere notion that taking a knee makes you

650
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: less then yes, and then comes back to bite you.

651
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: In a very very embarrassing way. Is I mean, that's

652
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: how comedy anyway you look at it.

653
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the impossible and stick with the comeback

654
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 2: theme and say something positive about Baylor, who was down

655
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: thirty five to seven to you see, yeah, and thanks

656
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: to Monterey Baldwin, Blake Shape and I think it was

657
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: Richard Reese had a nice game for the Bears. They

658
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 2: come back and score twenty nine unanswered to win.

659
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: Who That's fun.

660
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: That's that's the asterisk on the season for Baylor, that

661
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: there was that moment. That's a good thing.

662
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: I have a handful of quick ones if you can

663
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: let me go to places rattle them off. I've got

664
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: James Madison Jacksonville State getting into a bowl game after all. Yeah,

665
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: I've got Harrison MeVis just in general. Yeah, Harrison mevs

666
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: Course hit the sixty one yarder back in week three.

667
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: I want to say, to beat Kansas State, awesome, awesome scene.

668
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: I've got the edible pop Tarts bull mascot. I think

669
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: gift a gift to us all. Are you a pop

670
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: tart human? Not pop tart human? I've had pop tartsy,

671
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: you know, did you like.

672
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: Grow up loving them or having thoughts opinions about pop tarts.

673
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: In different now indifferent. Yeah, never really grow up with it.

674
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: Enjoy them, but not a priority. Sam Hartman's move Fossam, Maine.

675
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: I have Sam Harmon's run against Duke, his run against Duke.

676
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: I love a good balls run like that on like

677
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: a huge moment. That's great. September Colorado, Dan, What a

678
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: moment in time. I have an adjacent item to that,

679
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: but continue. September Colorado Week one. The Colorado story them

680
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: knocking off defending national runner up TCU on the road.

681
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: That was the biggest story for like three weeks. And

682
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: we've said this before. We had people texting us. I'm

683
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 1: sure if you're a college football fan, you had people

684
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: texting you who aren't necessarily in the weeds the way

685
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: you need to be to listen to a show like this,

686
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: And people wanted to know what was going on with Colorado.

687
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: What a story. It captured the imagination of college football

688
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: for a hot minute. Obviously, things came off the swivel

689
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: for Colorado. It's very much a talking point going into

690
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: the off season. But we'll always have that moment in time.

691
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: Back in Week one, it felt like it was possible,

692
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: was possible, and Dion could bolt this thing together through

693
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: the transfer portal and turn Colorado into a bowl team overnight.

694
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 2: Well, if if you were me, you were also getting

695
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 2: text messages from our friend Jeff Schwartz, who was like

696
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: the guy in the big short betting against the housing market,

697
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: who was like, I'm telling you they're not good. I'm

698
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: telling you they're not good. Please trust me. After everybody

699
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: was sort of turning the tide and then you know,

700
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: they sneak by Colorado State. My adjacent story with Colorado

701
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: Colorado State was and that was a fun game, goes

702
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: to extra time, goes to overtime, and we had the

703
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: uproar over the Colorado State defensive hitting Travis Hunter, knocking

704
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: him out. I think it was a punctured lung. It

705
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: was something Torso wise. I don't remember every injury. I apologize,

706
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: but like the after of like Travis Hunter coming across

707
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: as like super mature and graceful, and I think like

708
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: met up with them and they went bowling, like I

709
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: love sort of full stories like that. So and the

710
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: guy like Travis Hunter didn't believe it was dirty, Like

711
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: it was resolved like gentlemen would resolve an issue.

712
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: So I like that, Yeah, that was solid that that

713
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: was a good way to sort of I don't know

714
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: move forward from that. On a personal level, I do

715
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: have Jared Parker being hired by Troy. Okay, look, we

716
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: haven't talked much about it here on the show because

717
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 1: it just happened, but seemingly out of nowhere, Troy decided

718
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: to fill its coaching vacancy with Notre Dame now former

719
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: Notre Dame offensive coordinator Jared Parker. I had been screaming

720
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: for an eternity since like Week nine for Notre Dame

721
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: to make a move on Parker, get him out of there,

722
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 1: because I didn't think he was doing a good job,

723
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: and it didn't seem like in the early part of

724
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: the offseason Marcus Freeman had any inclination to do so,

725
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, there were definitely rumblings that something could be afoot,

726
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: But once we got a couple weeks into the off

727
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: season and there wasn't any movement. We had heard about

728
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: Chancey Stucky, the wide receivers coach, being like go and

729
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: Mike Brown being hired for the same position from Wisconsin.

730
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: We had heard about some movement on the coaching staff,

731
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: but nothing on Jared Parker, nothing at all, And I

732
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: was distraught. I was distraught because of course there's been

733
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: other news about Riley Leonard. We saw a bunch of

734
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: wide receivers off fleet of wide receivers all transfer out

735
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: for Notre Dame. It's like, and I said this on

736
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: the show, does it even matter who the quarterback is?

737
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: It didn't matter when they brought Sam Hartman over. The

738
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: didn't get anything more out of him than they did

739
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: Drew Pine. Just from a number standpoint, they didn't. And

740
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: does it even matter who they are getting unless they

741
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: decide if they commit to some sort of offensive change.

742
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 2: Man, I think they got more out of Sam Hartman.

743
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: Whatever the number, pro rate the numbers, pro rate the numbers.

744
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 2: I have pro rated the numbers. They got a little

745
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 2: bit more. From a statistical standpoint, I'm I don't care

746
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: about stats. I know they're different players. You watched every

747
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: snap of Notre Dame football. You knew that there was

748
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 2: a threat to throw the ball at it fields successfully

749
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: to a wide receiver. With Sam Harmon, there was definitely

750
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: the threat.

751
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: Why didn't they get better numbers? Sure? Why didn't they

752
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: get better numbers? Okay, you're right. But if you're right,

753
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: then they also should have gotten more out of them,

754
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: And I don't think they knew how. I don't even

755
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: put that on Sam Harten, But yeah, it's not on

756
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: Sam Hartman. I don't put that on Sam Hartman. Okay.

757
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: So the fact that Jared Parker was still there for

758
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: as long as he was to me was mind boggling.

759
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: The fact that Troy hired him as mind boggling. He

760
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: wasn't on any of the lists that Troy people put

761
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: out there right as a potential fit for their head

762
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: coaching vagance.

763
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: Maybe his wife is just friends with a like she's

764
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: super social and just friends with everybody like.

765
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: She's great Troy. I tweeted this out earlier. Troy essentially

766
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: getting stuck with Jared Parker in their white Elephant gift

767
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: giveaway to me is a gift in and of itself.

768
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: So I am thrilled at this. I wish Jared Parker well.

769
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: I hope he goes on to a prosperous and successful

770
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: coaching career down there at Troy, somewhere other than Notre

771
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: Dame's offense.

772
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: I'll go with the team that Notre Dame finished out

773
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: its season against How about Stanford's comeback against Colorado down

774
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: seventy three points and it was Elck aomanor I believe,

775
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: the receiver for Stanford who was uncoverable for Colorado as

776
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: they lead an enormous comeback down twenty nine to nothing

777
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: at half. That was incredible. So I love a good

778
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: dramatic comeback and an unstoppable receiver. I'll stick with the

779
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: PAC twelve briefly before moving elsewhere. ASU ran the swinging

780
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: gate eighteen times because they did not have enough scholarship

781
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: offensive lineman to rotate in anybody against UCLA in a

782
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: winning effort, you know, seventeen to seven, winning effort. They

783
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: did get absolutely crushed the next week against Oregon. Like

784
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 2: you might, you could pull some stuff against the UCLA.

785
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: I guess that was also the case for I think

786
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: Utah went down to Oregon after their dramatic USC.

787
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: Win and Colorado.

788
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: You know, there was a lot of eyeballs on the

789
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: Colorado Oregon game and Dan Lanning's speech beforehand, but that one,

790
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: especially ASU over UCLA running the swinging gate eighteen times.

791
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: What's not to like unless you're a Bruin fan. We

792
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: did get one here on Instagram from Hello Kate Snow,

793
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: who says Oregon's fake punt play versus Colorado great? Great,

794
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: using a defensive tackle, Yeah, using a defensive tackle. What

795
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: else do you got?

796
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: Dan Diego Pavia in New Mexico State, just the full

797
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: experience this year. Jerry Kill did a terrific job for

798
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: the Aggies and then beating Auburn at Auburn a week

799
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: before Auburn should have beaten Alabama pretty great and it

800
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: was a comfortable win. It wasn't a weird thirteen to

801
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: twelve game. It was a comfortable win.

802
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. We got one here from Mike Mike in h

803
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: Town who says fourth and thirty one. So I'm guessing

804
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: Mike felt like Alabama's win. That conversion, that touchdown throw

805
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: from mill Road to Isaiah Bond back corner of the

806
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: end zone, that was a gift for an Alabama fan.

807
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: Sure, I have Pitt's offense against West Virginia in the

808
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: backyard brawl. Not that it was a gift to that

809
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 2: the football gods bestowed on our eyes, but the fact

810
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: that this game once again exists with regularity, and that

811
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: you know, obviously West Virginia is forever going to have

812
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: the scar tissue from two thousand and seven and for

813
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 2: there to be just a catastrophic performance from Pitt. And

814
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: I don't put this on philder Kovic. Obviously, all year

815
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: long the offense was a nightmare pit and I think

816
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: it was Signetti right taking over the offense at pit

817
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: that that can happen in such a comically absurd way.

818
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 2: It's a good reminder that even a team as solid

819
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: and consistently solid as Pitt has been is cannot fully

820
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: escape from some of those offensive demons.

821
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: So I appreciate that it's very true. We got one

822
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: here from Raoul on discord when Carver ballers are beloved

823
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: for ballers always very thoughtful, he says, seeing proof of

824
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: concept for how the transfer portal is leveling the playing

825
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: field and not just necessarily making the rich richer. Example

826
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: Florida State and Washington specifically, we're not recruiting at Alabama,

827
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: Ohio State, or Georgia levels, but they use the portal

828
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: well and they ended up becoming a playoff caliber team. Now,

829
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: Ole Miss Ole, miss not a traditional power, but is

830
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: poised to have a crazy portal team in twenty twenty four.

831
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all sorts of things. I mean, they've been

832
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: doing this every year. They're going to go ten and two.

833
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 2: They're going to go ten and two.

834
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like their efforts in the portal this

835
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: year have really gone up a notch though. I mean,

836
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 1: right at time of recording, they've got the one hundred

837
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: percent crystal Ball prediction to get Walter Nolan. They've also

838
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: gotten all sorts of other talent through the portal. And

839
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: it's still pretty early, so we'll see what Lane Kiffin's

840
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: able to bolt together. But I do think that the

841
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: portal and the new dynamic of guys being able to

842
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: change spots. Look, George is fine, George is going to

843
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: be just fine. Georgia has easily a top three class

844
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: at this point every year. But the fact that they

845
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: have a lot of guys walking out the door, that

846
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: is definitely a thought in the back of Kirby's mind.

847
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: He's definitely got to figure out how to replace that

848
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: depth on an ongoing basis. Right, It is definitely a

849
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: new variable for some of these top teams to contend with.

850
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: The gift of not having and this is sort of

851
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 2: August more than it is in season, but the gift

852
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: of not having to stumble across us anonymous news breakers

853
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 2: tweeting about, oh, the Big twelve is adding this team,

854
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: is not adding this team. The Pac twelve is doing this,

855
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: is not doing this. This is what the TV deal

856
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 2: is being proposed. The ACC is doing this, The Big

857
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: ten is doing this. To have that not in our

858
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: lives every second, okay as an absolute gift. Yeah, how

859
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: about nearly ten win Kansas man Kansas was essentially three minutes,

860
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: three game minutes whatever whatever clock minutes exist. But I

861
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: think it was during and I don't put this on

862
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: coal Ballard, but it was two Coal Ballard games that

863
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: were winnable Sunshine Showdown, Sunshine Shun Sunflower against Kansas State,

864
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: and I think it was the Texas Tech game as well.

865
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 2: That if we have a healthy Jason Bean, we're talking

866
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: about ten and two Kansas.

867
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: Likely.

868
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: I mean, look, they they had to get by Oklahoma States.

869
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State needed the BYU overtime win. So basically we're

870
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 2: a healthy Jason being and a competent BYU away from

871
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: having Kansas in the Big twelve championship game this year.

872
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: Crazy, that's pretty cool. Crazy. I have this review from

873
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 1: Jones WQ okay out on Apple podcasts. I've been saying

874
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: it now time and again. Please, if you listen on

875
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 1: an Apple, go out there and leave us a five

876
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: star rating and a review if you got a few minutes.

877
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: I know how many people listen on Apple. It's a

878
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: lot of folks listening out there on Apple, and only

879
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 1: a fraction of left reviews. I get that it takes

880
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: a few minutes. That's one of the small things you

881
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: can do to support with Dan and I do. On

882
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: a ongoing basis, here says best college Football Podcast. I've

883
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: found two things make this podcast stand out, Thank you, Dan. Continue. First,

884
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: the hosts are unusually thoughtful, informed, and level headed. Unusually

885
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: thoughtful Dan, I like that. I like that, thank you.

886
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: One gets the sense that they are earnestly trying to

887
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: think out loud about and reason through what's going on

888
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: in the sport of college football, especially of course, with

889
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: what's going on in the field. I learned from listening

890
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: to this podcast. There is no bloviating, not from me,

891
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: there is a little bit from you, Dan, of course. Second,

892
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: they seem to genuinely and deeply enjoy their work and

893
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: each other. This is true. It makes the podcast fun

894
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: to listen to, so I learned from this podcast and

895
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: it has a good spirit about it. The podcasts engagement

896
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: with Patriot League Games alone is performance art. There you go.

897
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: Thank you for that, sir or madam. We appreciate it.

898
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: If you also listen, please go out there leave a

899
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: star rating or review. I will read yours on the

900
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: episode or one of these episodes that are to come

901
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: over the long cold months of the offseason. I am

902
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: taking the screenshots of all of them so I do

903
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: not leave any behind, only the nice ones, though. I'm

904
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 1: only going to read the really nice ones because they'll

905
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 1: make me feel good. But I needed to start actually

906
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: indexing these because we've had so many come in and

907
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to leave anybody out. So thank you,

908
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: sir madam for that. I appreciate it. Please go on

909
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: out to Apple Podcasts, leave a star rating or review.

910
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: Wherever you listen to the sOliver Bowl, be it Spotify,

911
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: most of the apps have some way to rate a podcast.

912
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: We would appreciate you leaving us the highest possible marks.

913
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: I'll go through these pretty quickly. Yes, I wrote down

914
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 2: so many of them. I love this season so much.

915
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: A competitive Virginia Tech. Yeah, love the hell out of

916
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 2: that Kyen Drones pass the rush. For Virginia Tech, they

917
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 2: had some low moments, especially to start the season.

918
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: You look at the Rutgers game, you look at the

919
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: who do they get? I think that they got.

920
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: Destroyed by Louisville like something scored like three points against

921
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: thee But otherwise, great year for Virginia Tech, a bounce

922
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: back year. All of the snow games, most notably probably Parmageddon.

923
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: That was awesome. That game. Love a good snow game.

924
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: That game was awesome because at the time, I forget

925
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: what game, you and I were doing the watch along

926
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: for mm hmm. Whenever it was we looked at the

927
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: TV as like, oh boy, oh boy, we got to

928
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: snow bowled.

929
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: But there was there was offense in that game, right,

930
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 2: This wasn't a seven to three game.

931
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: It was actual shootouts in the game. It was a

932
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: rare snow shootout.

933
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: I love that all of red River. Speaking of shootout,

934
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: what a weird game. Loved every second of it. Great

935
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 2: weird special teams plays, breakdowns, long drives to win, like

936
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: all of it was there with red River. That was

937
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: a terrific performance. How about a competitive high level Pack

938
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: twelve in its final season, Man that was nice. It's obviously,

939
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: you know, there's the sadness blanket wrapped around this.

940
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: But it's very bittersweet to me. It was nice to

941
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: have them go out on a high note. If they're

942
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: going to go out, it's bittersweet to me. And I'm

943
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: an East Coast guy. Yeah, I can only imagine what

944
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: it feels like to be a West Coast native like

945
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: you and grow up with that and now see that

946
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: it's going to be going away. It sucks. That's a

947
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: huge pob But I'm glad that it ended on a

948
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: high note because it was great football. I mean, the

949
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: stories coming out of the Pac twelve were almost second

950
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: to none, between the Oregon and the Washington team one

951
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: Team one.

952
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 2: Arizona, Utah winning with a super beat up team, Stanford, Colorado, Wazoo, Ucla,

953
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: all these teams at least showing that like there was

954
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: a pretty decent bar of competence in there.

955
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 1: There were reasons to stay interested in the Pac twelve

956
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: for sure.

957
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have here, just Cody Schrader. We've had some

958
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: super low moments of Miszoo offensive football at the end

959
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: of games for full four quarters. You know, the Larry

960
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: rownd tre era in the backfield. Not his fault. It

961
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 2: was just a general offensive thing for Miszoo to have

962
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 2: Cody Schrader breakthrough like he did this year. Kirby Moore

963
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: is obviously a part of that. Harrison Meaves is a.

964
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: Part of that as well.

965
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 2: But yeah, the Miszoo story this year I think was

966
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 2: pretty enchanting. On that same note, how about just the

967
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 2: existence of Ashton genty Man. We're just like, out of nowhere,

968
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: a running back at a decent sized place but not

969
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: a major major program, absolutely explodes immediately upon starting his

970
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: college football career. I always appreciate that. How about all

971
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: of the games on the CW. Never envisioned saying that,

972
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 2: that's been a gift all season long, Never never envisioned

973
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: saying that. And I guess I don't know if this

974
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 2: is a gift, but maybe it's a gift to those

975
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: of us from the West Coast who didn't go to USC.

976
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: But it almost seems like the second USC decided that

977
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: they were going to murder West Coast football, that a

978
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 2: curse was put on them by the college football gods.

979
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 2: And they haven't been able to tackle anybody, they haven't

980
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 2: been able to stop anybody. They wasted the third year

981
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: of Caleb Williams' career. Like again, not a gift to

982
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 2: those of us who just enjoy good college football, but

983
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: the curse to those of us a little bit bitter

984
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: over losing an entire together region of the sport, right,

985
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: you know, it's it has its moments.

986
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: There's some gallows humor to that. I think there is.

987
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: I think there is.

988
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: I think that's all I have for the gifts of

989
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 2: the season. Yeah, do you have any other Do you

990
00:52:58,800 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: have any further item?

991
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, I've got a bet that I'm

992
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: going to give away here shortly. Okay. It was very

993
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: much not a gift for me, because I feel like

994
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: it took me about ten and a half weeks to

995
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: actually figure out what was going on. From a betting standpoint,

996
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: It was certainly not a gift to my betting account balance, okay,

997
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: because I was betting the same picks that I was

998
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 1: giving to the for baller hood. That was not great

999
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: for me. But I hope that there are smarter people

1000
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: out there who recognize the air of my ways and

1001
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: bet against me this. If you bet against me this season,

1002
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: you did pretty dang good on my locks on my locks.

1003
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: Like a lot of the picks that we gave out

1004
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: on the show when we were just doing our predictions

1005
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 1: and that sort of thing, they actually did pretty well.

1006
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: I think if you round out over the course of

1007
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: the season all of our picks, you and I were

1008
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 1: probably each about five hundred ish. It wasn't that bad.

1009
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: But my locks and particular the games that I felt

1010
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: the most confident about were horrible, and I only hit

1011
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: three of those themed parlays throughout the course of the year.

1012
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: I recognize this is not an advertisement for you to

1013
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: bet on the bet I'm about to give you, Okay.

1014
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: This is a show about honesty, just being real, just

1015
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: being real, just flaishing strong. You got that late kick

1016
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: in the eight hundred meters, that's right. I'm just I'm

1017
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: just being honest with y'all. This is what we're here for.

1018
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: So I'm hopeful that somebody out there recognized this and

1019
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: got the gift of ties jinxed betting picks and made

1020
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: some money kind of I don't know at fad tie, Yeah,

1021
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: fade tie.

1022
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 2: Okay, do we want to give out any quick gifts

1023
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty four because it is better to give

1024
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: than receive.

1025
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: I mean, do you have gifts that you'd like to

1026
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: give out.

1027
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to give like a master class subscription

1028
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: out to the LSU defensive staff. I don't know who

1029
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 2: they have to buy it. I don't know what kind

1030
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: of PowerPoint presentation they need, but just a general like

1031
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 2: tackling knowing which lane to fill on defense, which gap

1032
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 2: is yours? Like there is something like what coverage means,

1033
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 2: how to develop defensive backs once again and not rely

1034
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: on little guys who probably aren't working out.

1035
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 1: They played the wrong type of cover zero right, they

1036
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: took it literally and yeah, didn't work great because.

1037
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 2: That sort of robbed us of a super compelling LSU

1038
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 2: you know in the playoff, because the offense was of

1039
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: that caliber one.

1040
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: So that was a bummer.

1041
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: I wish like like health and happiness for a number

1042
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: of teams who were crazy beat up, like Utah. I

1043
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: remember when they were, you know, back half of their schedule.

1044
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: They were like, well, they're down their best three defensive linemen,

1045
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: their first two quarterbacks, they're starting running back two of

1046
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: their best tight ends. Like the good news is the

1047
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: injury gods sort of level out, Like you're just not

1048
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: going to be decimated by injuries every year, so they

1049
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 2: will be it seems unusually healthy. But I'll give them

1050
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: an additional gift of it next year. A team like

1051
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: Utah who has been the sort of standard of consistency.

1052
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, how about is like boring competence for

1053
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 2: Texas A and M. Yeah, Like, I'm just going to

1054
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 2: give them the like drama free, boring competence. Like they're

1055
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: not gonna win the national championship next year, but what

1056
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: if they exclusively lose to teams who are clearly better

1057
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: than them and exclusively beat teams based on talent, based

1058
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: on smart coaching. That would be a really nice gift

1059
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 2: to give some boring competence. I would take that myself.

1060
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: I'm still searching for it.

1061
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 1: I mean, that's part of part of why people don't

1062
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: like Alabama or don't like Georgia. It is not necessarily flashy,

1063
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: but it is boring competence, right, It is just consistently

1064
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: boring competence. Right. They don't love punts they knocked out,

1065
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 1: They don't make the mistakes. That's part of why Alibama

1066
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: was interesting this year because they were a little bit

1067
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: more mistake prone. True, but yeah, if you're an A

1068
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: and M fan. I think you would you would trade

1069
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: a limb or two for that, given where you've come from. Yeah.

1070
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's one hundred and eighteen teams right

1071
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: now who would raise their hand and happily accept boring

1072
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 2: competence my team in certain scenarios being your teams in

1073
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: certain scenarios. I like, I want Penn State to have

1074
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: an offensive revelation on the level of where they were

1075
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: with Joe Morehead, you and me, both, you and me both.

1076
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 2: That'd be nice to have it really after this year.

1077
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: It would Yeah, other gifts, I just I want somebody

1078
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: out of the like morass. That is the big ten,

1079
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 2: So Rutgers, Michigan State, Indiana, Northwestern Wisconsin, Nebraska, Perdue, Illinois, Minnesota, Iowa.

1080
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 2: Somebody just out of nowhere has a high flying offense

1081
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: and scoring thirty eight a game, right out of absolute nowhere.

1082
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: Don't know who it is, don't know why that's going

1083
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: to be the case, but I want to roof of

1084
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: concept for one of those teams. Maybe it's Wisconsin with Philongo,

1085
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 2: who knows, for one of those teams, and that would

1086
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: be with what TVD right, that would be That would

1087
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: be a surprise, but one of one of the teams

1088
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: in that that grouping to just be bunkers good on offense,

1089
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 2: that'd be great.

1090
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree? What else? What else? Other teams? Players, coaches?

1091
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: It would be cool if it were.

1092
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 2: Iowa, honestly to see that kind of story. What are

1093
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: you gifting if anything?

1094
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: Well, I think I'm definitely gifting myself. Joe moorehead as

1095
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's offensive coordinator. Oh nice? Is that gonna happen?

1096
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: Don't know? Okay, I don't know. That's why it's a gift.

1097
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: There have been some interesting names thrown about. I have

1098
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: no inside knowledge, but after having watched Joe mo at

1099
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: Penn State with a mobile quarterback, given the fact that

1100
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: Notre Dame now has one Riley Leonard, I think that

1101
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: could be really fun. They've got a good ground game.

1102
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: I think the line will be in good shape. I

1103
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: know they've got good running backs. Receiver being what it is,

1104
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: that's going to be an open question. They're getting some

1105
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: transfers or getting some receiving talent via the high school

1106
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: ranks as well. But I just I know the body

1107
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: of work from the Halcyon days of Saquon Barkley when

1108
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: Joeyo and Trace mcsori. We're still in state college and

1109
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: I would love to see that show on the road

1110
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: in South Bend. But I'm giving myself that gift, if

1111
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: that's okay, I think I'm also giving you the gift

1112
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: of more kind of Oregon uncertainty. Okay, I feel like

1113
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: you were a little too high in your hunches this year.

1114
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 2: You were, Oh yeah, you like it that Oregon has

1115
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: been such a stable program, losing a head coach every

1116
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: two years, like I do, I do well, they've had

1117
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 2: it coasting.

1118
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the thing. They've come on so strong in

1119
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: the recruiting game that, yeah, you know, not everybody has

1120
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: the privilege of our sidebar conversations on Slack, And I

1121
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: feel like you've gotten very confident in or Organ's ability

1122
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: to attract top talent, which, of course they're doing a

1123
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: marvelous job. They're incredible. Dan Lanning is unbelievable with bringing

1124
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: guys to Eugene.

1125
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: But everybody thinks it's Phil Knight wrong. You know what

1126
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 2: it is, I'm bankrolling this collective with our Manscape cash tie.

1127
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 2: That's what I need to reveal to the world. It

1128
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 2: is not a sponsor.

1129
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: Still not a sponsor anymore, but I'm open to it.

1130
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely could be. I just I want to give you

1131
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: that uncertainty because I feel like when Oregon is in

1132
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: a relative state of I don't know, in balance, Okay,

1133
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: you produce the best content. Like you wouldn't want Notre

1134
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: Dame to go twelve and zero. You wouldn't want that

1135
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: how they do it well, you wouldn't want that because

1136
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: that would make me boring. That would make me very nervous.

1137
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: But that would make me boring. And I don't want

1138
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: Oregon to be suddenly this world beater, because I think

1139
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: that makes you boring as well.

1140
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 2: Dan Lanning has not won a conference title yet. Right

1141
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 2: Oregon lost to Washington twice in very close, dramatic fashion.

1142
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 2: Probably was very fun for our Washington listeners to experience

1143
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 2: me crestfallen in those moments. So there's still that possibility

1144
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 2: with Kaylin de Borrer coaching at Washington. Now it's the

1145
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 2: final game of the year, So I appreciate that that

1146
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: you want. You want some zazz to my organ fandom experience.

1147
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: And the final gift that I have for every college

1148
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: football fan going into twenty twenty four. Yeah, and this

1149
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: is very true to form, if you know my thing.

1150
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: I want there to be an unbelievable sleep of playoff games,

1151
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: that first round, that first round, which is going to

1152
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: be played on the same day, same weekend that we

1153
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: typically would start games like the Myrtle Beach Bowl. Right

1154
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: you wait, so it's.

1155
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 2: The first round is happening at the same time as

1156
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 2: the portal and early signing pier exactly, exactly, great scheduling, everybody.

1157
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: The Scott the college football schedule needs to be tuned

1158
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: to bit. God, it's it's a bad schedule. They did

1159
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: a bad job. Somebody needs to rework that calendar. That

1160
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: aside in the first year of this new playoff system,

1161
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: which you know is going to be sold to us.

1162
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: They're going to they funded this so much, we have

1163
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: to eat it. At this point, I just want there

1164
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: to be awesome on campus games. Say you want about

1165
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: the playoff, sure, say we want about what it's going

1166
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: to do to conference championship games and regular season games

1167
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: and all that, and you know what you've got. You've

1168
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: got more than enough to make a strong case on

1169
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: that front. I'll give you that. But having there be

1170
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: playoff games on campus, to me is the most exciting

1171
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: thing about twenty twenty four is the most exciting thing.

1172
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: Not the video game, not Notre Dame getting a new coordinator,

1173
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: not any of this stuff. The most exciting thing is

1174
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: having those first round playoff games on campus because that

1175
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: is a dynamic we have never seen before. And I

1176
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: think interest is going to be at an all time high.

1177
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: Even if you don't care about the teams playing. They're

1178
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: gonna be any teams playing. Even if you don't care

1179
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: at all about those teams, the fact that it is

1180
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: going to be meaningful and on campus and in the postseason,

1181
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: to me, yeah, is I think, I think a step forward.

1182
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 2: So it'll be fascinating to see if how long this

1183
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 2: schedule stays where it's at right now. Because they can't,

1184
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: You're gonna have like they can't do it again, like

1185
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 2: key defensive lineman at a playoff place figure out that

1186
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 2: they can make more money elsewhere and enter the portal

1187
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 2: before the playoff ten seed, eleven seed, seven seed.

1188
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: I mean Malik Murphy had to do it for Texas.

1189
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: Malik Murphy left. Yeah, Florida State's losing key dudes, Like

1190
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: he didn't want to leave six You don't want to

1191
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: leave he said he didn't want to leave, but the schedule,

1192
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: the way that it's the timing, yeah, wait, it's put together.

1193
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: He didn't really have much much choice. It's it's going

1194
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: to be different.

1195
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: Other gifts I have is I want there to be

1196
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: a for their sake, a big Oregon State Washington State

1197
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: problem that one of those teams goes eleven in one

1198
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: next year and be like, what do you do with

1199
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 2: eleven in one state in the pac two?

1200
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: What do you do with them? Yeah?

1201
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 2: And so I for their sake, because they were royally

1202
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 2: screwed over by realignment, that I would I would like

1203
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: for their to have one of those schools have a

1204
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 2: cool twenty twenty four season. I don't know which it'll

1205
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 2: be because they both are losing a ton of key dudes,

1206
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: but it'd be nice.

1207
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: Shall I give you all the gift of my themed

1208
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: parlay for this weekend? I would love that gift TI

1209
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: Versus the World DJ.

1210
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 2: TI Versus the World presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook.

1211
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: So this hat lights up, Dan that you're wearing, Yep,

1212
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: the hat that I'm wearing. If you're watching the video,

1213
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: the hat lights up. And I had every intention of

1214
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: switching it on in time for this tie versus the

1215
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: World Selection. We've got a bunch of games this Saturday.

1216
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: I decided I wanted to move a couple point spreads,

1217
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: just shift them, okay a little bit. I don't have

1218
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: a name for this. The one we gave last week

1219
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: we also didn't have a name for, and we forgot

1220
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: to emerge from that podcast with a name for it.

1221
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: So we can't do that again. I need you to

1222
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: be thinking about what we can name this. Okay, okay,

1223
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: eyes are closed deep in thought. Three point spreads Northwestern

1224
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: plus ten and a half ball game against Utah like

1225
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: the Cats with the points there, okay, bumping it up

1226
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: a little bit, point spread six and a half, giving

1227
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: you four more. James Madison minus one in the bowl

1228
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: game against air Force. I'm a little nervous about this

1229
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: one because they think the quarterback down to coach. Yeah,

1230
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: well I think I think air Force is going to

1231
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: have their quarter I think Zach Larrier might be back

1232
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: in time for this game, which gives me cause for pause. Yeah,

1233
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: and James Madison is down a coach, but all of

1234
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: their portal guys are playing. They're all playing, all right.

1235
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: So Jordan McLeod is playing, He's playing, They're all playing.

1236
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: This is meaningful to James Madison. They want to be there.

1237
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: The fact that they are there at all is a

1238
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: big deal. That's why the guys are sticking around. So

1239
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: you know where I stand on this. I'm all about

1240
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: effort in the postseason. In these exhibition games, James Madison

1241
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: minus one, okay, down a few, all right, make it

1242
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: a little easier for the Dukes. And then the final

1243
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: one is Troy minus five and a half. How could

1244
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,439
Speaker 1: I not bet on Troy after they took Jared Parker away?

1245
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,479
Speaker 1: How could I not be the biggest Troy Trojan fan

1246
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: this side of Troy Alabama? How could I not Troy

1247
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: minus five and a half against Duke? Duke down a coach, down,

1248
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback, down, an edge rusher, down, a bunch of guys. Frankly,

1249
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: a lot of guys left Duke. So you're pro Duke

1250
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: and anti Duke in one parlay. I'm not anti Duke.

1251
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: You're with the Dukes and you're against Duke. That's right, Okay,

1252
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: that's right. So Troy minus five and a half, I

1253
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: think they're favored by seven and a half. Bumped that

1254
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: down a little bit, got that down under six, So

1255
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: somebody misses an extra point you still feel okay about Yeah,

1256
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: combine all those together, it's about plus three twenty six,

1257
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 1: a little over three to one. I have hit two

1258
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: of the last three weeks. I should have hit the

1259
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: parlay last week. But what's his name? Fernando Mendoza, the

1260
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: quarterback for Cal whatever his name is, turned it over

1261
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: like h straight possessions. If he doesn't do that, we

1262
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: go over. We win that one as well. So we're

1263
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: really feeling it here. A couple alternate point spreads to

1264
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:31,479
Speaker 1: keep you keep you intrigued this Saturday with Bowl action.

1265
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: Do we have a name idea? Did we already use

1266
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: alt rock with alternative spreads? I mean we could go

1267
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: alt rock. I think we did do alt rock earlier.

1268
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: We did alt rock parlay.

1269
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, something with teas, frisky teas, and you got mad Cats,

1270
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 2: Madson Cat Cats, the Mad Cat Parlay. I don't know

1271
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 2: how you bring in Troy into that.

1272
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: We could call it the Santa Shift, the Saturday Shift. Oh,

1273
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: I don't mind that Saturday shift.

1274
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 2: Shifty Shenanigans, Shifty Saturday, Shifty Saturday? Are the games happening

1275
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 2: on a Saturday're all on Saturday. They're all on Saturday.

1276
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: Shifty Saturday. Okay, there you go, Shifty Saturday. So we're

1277
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,879
Speaker 1: not gift Saturday parlay. We're not giving out Saturday names anymore,

1278
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: but we can name it shifty Saturday. Download the DraftKings

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1283
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: don't want the battery to die in this guy. That's okay,

1284
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Speaker 1: It's all we got, Dan. Yeah, I thought a very

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Speaker 1: very generous episode from us, not only receiving gifts, not

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Speaker 1: only calling the gifts out that we were happy about

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Speaker 1: this season, but also giving a few the closest thing out. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, Danta clause ate up all the positivity, all the

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Speaker 2: crumbs from the generosity of this episode.

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Speaker 1: This is true. Okay, Look, we appreciate everybody hanging with

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Speaker 1: us here. As we said at the top, we've got

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Speaker 1: a New Year's six and playoff preview coming your way

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Speaker 1: next week. We've pre recorded those episodes because we're going

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Speaker 1: to take a little bit of time off, try and

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Speaker 1: catch our breath a bit here over the holidays.

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Speaker 2: I said, we've got bulls to watch. We're still watching football.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be in a different country soaking up

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Speaker 2: some much needed suntie.

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Speaker 1: That's right back.

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Speaker 2: I'll be back. Let's see the thirtieth. Yeah, so we'll

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Speaker 2: be back in time for New Year six. There are

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Speaker 2: TVs and there are college football games on where I'm going,

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Speaker 2: So we're all good.

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Speaker 1: We're all good. We will, of course keep everybody up

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Speaker 1: to speed on the schedule via our social media accounts.

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Speaker 1: If you are Averballer averballers dot com, you of course

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Speaker 1: always have the inside track on what's going to happen next.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned. We'll let you know what are playing. Are

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Speaker 1: with respect to watch alongs and youtubes and instagrams and

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. We've got big plans here as we

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Speaker 1: get a little bit closer to the playoff and some

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Speaker 1: of the bigger Bowl matchups. Dan by sir in the interim,

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Speaker 1: for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubenstein,

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Speaker 1: for myself, Ty Hildenbrandt, thank you so much for downloading,

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Speaker 1: for listening, for playing along at home. Enjoy those guests,

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