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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clubs. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: wa with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Friday, August twentieth, twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: Season seventeen, episode number eleven. Welcome to the latest edition

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Speaker 1: of The Break. Life in the SWBC Mortgage Studios. At

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Speaker 1: the start, got Dave Hellman and Nick Eatman with me

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Speaker 1: for a rousing forty five minutes of Cowboys talk on

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Speaker 1: a Friday heading into the third preseason game for the Cowboys. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the LFG excited. Yeah, that's not what he looked like. God,

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Speaker 1: it look like I'm not gonna say, but oh, it

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Speaker 1: didn't look it didn't look like something he should be

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Speaker 1: doing in here. It's a record for how quickly you

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Speaker 1: took things off the reels. I'm just excited. It's Friday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a football weekend. I saw your I saw your post,

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Speaker 1: I get brought back to the earth, like I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: but there aren't any real games this weekend. It's just

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Speaker 1: kind of preseason. But there's still some value I think

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Speaker 1: in these preseason games will be next week's preseason games

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Speaker 1: that you're like, I don't even want to watch this.

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Speaker 1: I just want to get to the actual games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but there's some there's some twenty twenty element of it

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Speaker 1: even like I didn't feel that way last year because

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Speaker 1: weren't going to games. You might not even be sure

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Speaker 1: And Yeah, it's God. I love that feeling of waking

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Speaker 1: the best I have never been that guy that says, oh,

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Speaker 1: see what they do in the game where they don't

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Speaker 1: And so there's always storylines there and even in the

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Speaker 1: Like I'm down there. I'm like, I don't know what's

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Speaker 1: first Jerry Jones Classic. It's gonna match up Denton Ryan

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Speaker 1: back to the second segment of The Break Life from

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Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: Cowboys versus Texans. That's happening tomorrow night at AT and

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Speaker 1: T Stadium, and so let's start first with the starters,

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Speaker 1: and which of the starters do you expect to actually

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Speaker 1: be out there on the offensive side of the ball

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Speaker 1: and the defensive side of the ball, So in them

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Speaker 1: all not just give me an idea of kind of

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Speaker 1: what guys the offense is going to play this like

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Speaker 1: it's the first or second game like that that we're

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Speaker 1: not This is not a dress rehearsal. Dack's not going

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Speaker 1: to play. Um Zeke is not going to play, which

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Speaker 1: I love. It's so refreshing that Mike McCarthy doesn't really

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Speaker 1: treat this like a state secret. He even made it Joe,

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Speaker 1: he was like, he's not kind of played. Did you

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Speaker 1: not watch Hard Knocks? Because in the first episode he

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Speaker 1: was like, we shouldn't play him. So I guess he's

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Speaker 1: like this at this point, everything we've done is yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's no longer a top secret. So and then you know.

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Speaker 1: But so it is encouraging. Tyrone, Zach and Lyle are

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Speaker 1: all expected to play. But again, you're talking a series,

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Speaker 1: maybe two series, ten to fifteen snaps, Amari Cooper ten

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Speaker 1: to twelve snaps. Maybe Lamb and Gallop do a little

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Speaker 1: bit more because they've already played. But I think for

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Speaker 1: the most part. You're talking all starters out by and

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Speaker 1: before the first quarters over. If I had to guess

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Speaker 1: an offense, yeah, defense I think is going to look

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Speaker 1: more like a dress rehearsal. You know, those that side

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Speaker 1: of the ball is healthier just in general, like you're

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Speaker 1: not dealing with guys that are maintaining things the same

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Speaker 1: way and younger. You know, there's a lot more unproven

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Speaker 1: guys on the defensive side of the ball. So I

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Speaker 1: think you could see I think most of the defensive

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Speaker 1: starters will play like a half, probably are close to it.

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence obviously isn't gonna play. I don't think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna see him. No, I know you're not gonna see

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Speaker 1: him till Tampa because there sure is hell not going

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Speaker 1: to play him against Jacksonville. Yeah, so yeah, but everybody

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Speaker 1: but Tank. I feel like everybody who's healthy should play

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Speaker 1: a half or so. I don't did you mention Randy

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Speaker 1: I did not know which he's been dealing with a foot,

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Speaker 1: But he has looked good here this week at practice,

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Speaker 1: So about bash him? Yeah? I don't. He's could you

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Speaker 1: start wondering wondering, like where the bodies that are going

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Speaker 1: to be out there. You know, I think bash him, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's a good question. I know he's coming back from

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Speaker 1: his ankle, and maybe keep an eye on what he

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Speaker 1: does today. Did you hear something about Randy I no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: just I mean I know he's practiced them, but I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't do a full half. He's one of

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Speaker 1: those guys. He's kind of on the boardom line. You

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Speaker 1: need some snaps, but you don't want to push it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are we Are we a huh hundred percent

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Speaker 1: sure Terrell Basham makes the team a hund I mean

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Speaker 1: I would say, I'm like ninety five percent. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that would surprise me. Yeah, it would surprise me too.

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Speaker 1: I'm just you know this, even though they're cap strap,

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Speaker 1: they're not really like needing to save a lot of

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Speaker 1: money right now. Like they're not gonna go get anyone else.

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Speaker 1: They don't need the money for someone else. So I

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Speaker 1: don't think it would be that. I just I'm just

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Speaker 1: looking at it. I mean, there really isn't a young guy.

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Speaker 1: But but the way that Dorn's Armstrong has played, I

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Speaker 1: think he's your third pass rusher now, so you're getting

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Speaker 1: and he also plays special teams, which makes him very valuable.

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Speaker 1: He's just going to get on the field in different ways.

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Speaker 1: But if there was a younger guy that was playing

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Speaker 1: in well, where we're going with this is Chauncey Gholston,

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Speaker 1: when is he going to be back? Like, because that's

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Speaker 1: right now. That's what's kind of making this whole defensive

496
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Speaker 1: end position cloudy for me, because what do you do

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Speaker 1: with him? Do they decide to put him on six

498
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Speaker 1: week pup? He looks like a pop stash to me,

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Speaker 1: maybe like he's I mean, he has you know, and

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Speaker 1: some people have been asking a lot of questions. I

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Speaker 1: get it he's he's been doing some rehab work, like

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Speaker 1: he started working with Britt Brown recently, but like jogging,

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Speaker 1: you know, was this expected because I never heard anything

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Speaker 1: about this in the off season, it would be this

505
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Speaker 1: kind he was thinking stuff. He was out there, he

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Speaker 1: was out there was a guy a lot we talked

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Speaker 1: to leon Lett. I think it was being you before camp.

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Speaker 1: Golston was a guy that he was excited about. So

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Speaker 1: this whatever happened was happened either right before camp or

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Speaker 1: at camp. It might yeah, I think I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: I heard that it might have. I don't remember if

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Speaker 1: it was Gholston. So I don't want to say for sure,

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Speaker 1: but not trying to dismiss bash him at all. I'm

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Speaker 1: just thinking things have changed in the in the development here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Dorin's Armstrong is getting to the point where,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think that they're gonna have to play

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Speaker 1: him more. You know what they played him at last year?

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Speaker 1: I know, But but what what what Joe Witz said

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Speaker 1: about Maurice? Can that feed the studs? I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you're playing so well that you got to get them

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Speaker 1: on the field, but you probably want four ends, right, Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And who's the fourth if it's right right? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but if Gholston was in the mix,

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Speaker 1: and there was maybe Bradley and I would actually actually

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Speaker 1: do something. You could look at it and say, all right,

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Speaker 1: we'll hold on here because we have a veteran. Anytime

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Speaker 1: you have veteran backups that are in the third or

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Speaker 1: even in the fourth spot, I think that you have

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Speaker 1: to think about it. Yeah. No, I get that, I

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Speaker 1: honestly think, but I wouldn't. I'm not saying I would.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't think they're I mean, they're they're

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Speaker 1: not married to any of those guys. That's how they

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Speaker 1: do it in free agency. But I just this is

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Speaker 1: not implying by any way, I have not heard that.

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, if you're not starting, and you're not

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Speaker 1: even maybe the first backup, and you're kind of a

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Speaker 1: veteran guy, I think I think it's safe to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: let's let's look at this. But I just think I

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Speaker 1: don't think a Nis had a better camp than Basham

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Speaker 1: and Golston I have. I can't believe that he would

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Speaker 1: be ready and at this point, yeah, you're what, you're

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Speaker 1: ten days from final cuts or twelve days from final cuts,

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Speaker 1: whatever that market. And so I think at this point

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Speaker 1: I would be surprised if Gholston. I think you try

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Speaker 1: to stash him for six weeks and get him back

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Speaker 1: a little more healthy and acclimated before you do anything

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Speaker 1: with him. This team also likes Rondelle Carter more than

548
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Speaker 1: fans do and media does. The team likes Carter more then.

549
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying than anybody else, but I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: they're high on him. Well, between him and and I like,

551
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Speaker 1: those are guys that are right now, it's hard to

552
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Speaker 1: see how they're gonna make the team. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you would think that there's at least some interest and

554
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Speaker 1: maybe some interest in that room that they want to

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Speaker 1: keep them there. And there's always and this is this

556
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Speaker 1: sets up perfectly for a surprise, even if it's maybe

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Speaker 1: it's not Terrell Basham, but she's using that as an example.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point that, Okay, here's a veteran that's

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Speaker 1: not making a lot of money. You know, he's not

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Speaker 1: going to get a ton of defensive snaps. We really

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Speaker 1: need a special teams player. If you feel like Rondell

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Speaker 1: and Dorian's Armstrong's been so good. John Fossil actually talked

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Speaker 1: about that yesterday. You might have to decrease his load

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Speaker 1: on special teams because he's playing more on defense than

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Speaker 1: what he's used to. And so in that case, you

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Speaker 1: got to find a replacement. Maybe it could be a

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Speaker 1: Ron del Carter or Bradley And I don't roll out

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Speaker 1: to from a pass rushing standpoint, because they're going to

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Speaker 1: have to figure out how to get number nine on

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Speaker 1: the field if they're gonna if they're gonna keep well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he should. You got to figure out the

572
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: Luba Santas for two years, figure out the best way

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Speaker 1: to use Jalen Smith. Let's call him Jalen Smith, not

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Speaker 1: number nine. Yeah, that's I was. I was like, we're

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Speaker 1: doing We're doing that now. Yeah, No I'm not I'm

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Speaker 1: not fit. Yeah, but let me ask you. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna ask this rush on this same thing though. Yea.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw the report yesterday

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Speaker 1: the Clarence put out Clarence Hill. Uh. He said that

580
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Speaker 1: he's expecting that both Jalen and Layton Vanderish will be

581
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Speaker 1: seeing some snaps on special teams. Hated in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Hated is that you hate why he hated it, because

583
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Speaker 1: because that doesn't mean that they're going to be good

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Speaker 1: because they're they're better runs. Absolutely, I don't think Jalen

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Speaker 1: Smith would be a great special teams guy. He doesn't

586
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Speaker 1: run very well for sixty yards. He doesn't. That's not

587
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Speaker 1: his thing. But I thought straight line running was actually

588
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Speaker 1: where he's okay, Like I thought he could still run

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Speaker 1: straight line. It's change of direction that's a problem for him.

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Speaker 1: Right with Lauren kind of fetched him like forty yards back.

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Speaker 1: So I know that he's I know he's a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I know, and it wasn't his fault. It was whoever

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Speaker 1: whoever was. They need to work on that drill. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I don't ever see that drill. They want

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Speaker 1: to really preached turnovers and special teams work on that

596
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Speaker 1: where the guy's running with the ball and you turn

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Speaker 1: it around and actually blocking someone. Leon Lett wouldn't be member,

598
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Speaker 1: you know, wouldn't be remembered for that play against Buffalo

599
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Speaker 1: if Jimmy Jones would have turned around and hit the

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Speaker 1: guy turn around. That's the thing. And Vanderest did did

601
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Speaker 1: not do it in that Washington game. White laughing, it's

602
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Speaker 1: I'm I love your enthusiasm, just I'm because they don't

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Speaker 1: do it. And I've never thought, yeah, I've never considered

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Speaker 1: that they should do a drill where they and you're

605
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Speaker 1: right and I'm wrong. Like I'm not saying you're crazy.

606
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Speaker 1: It's just it'll get enough turnovers to make Yeah, seriously maybe.

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Speaker 1: So it's like it's like the step one right, It's

608
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Speaker 1: like team though it's in the high school team. That's like,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna practice our kneel downs, like you can never

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Speaker 1: kneeling down the ball. You guys are all Yeah, let's

611
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Speaker 1: focus on getting guys running towards the end zone with

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Speaker 1: the ball before we worry about who's blocking Alden Smith

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Speaker 1: touchdown against Cincinnati last year, the entire defense was on

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Speaker 1: at wevel like that. Yeah, probably like where are they

615
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Speaker 1: other guys? Seriously, we're ling we need more? Oh no, okay,

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Speaker 1: I do. I thought that there was a little more

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Speaker 1: nuanced to what Fossil said than that. It's and I

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Speaker 1: think it applies to the whole season, which is something

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Speaker 1: that I've been thinking about a lot. Typically, you keep

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Speaker 1: five or six or maybe seven linebackers the back half

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Speaker 1: of your depth chart, our core special teams guys because

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Speaker 1: they're big enough to tackle and block but also still

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Speaker 1: pretty fast. But this whole depth chart is gonna be

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Speaker 1: starter caliber player. With all of this Rode linebacker, you

625
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: got four guys that you're going to be leaning on

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Speaker 1: to play heavy snaps, which means you like, where are

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Speaker 1: these special teams snaps coming from? So I think what

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Speaker 1: Fossil was saying is he hadn't He did say, he

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Speaker 1: was like, all four of these guys have to find

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Speaker 1: something they can be useful at on special teams. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean they all have to play every team, but they

632
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Speaker 1: all got to have something that they can contribute otherwise,

633
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Speaker 1: you know, how do you You got to have forty

634
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: six guys who are doing something on game day. So

635
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Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting, just that Neil and Parsons

636
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: as well, like all four of them need to find

637
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Speaker 1: a way to be useful, or at least three out

638
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: of the four probably, And honestly, I mean, I think

639
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: that's the point to make, is that it's it's all

640
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: of them. It's not just Layton and Jalen. Yeah, that

641
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: makes it sound like them. I just thought it made

642
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: it sound like Fossil was like, at least two guys sucks.

643
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: So they got to play specials and on the way

644
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna make the seams if they got to play

645
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: special teams, which is not the case. Right, Yeah, okay,

646
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: all right, so those we're gonna do real quick before

647
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: we go to break. I want each you guys to

648
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: give me one bubble guy, one guy that this game

649
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: is very important for them, whether it is for them

650
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: to maybe a sin to a starting role, or whether

651
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: it is a possibility of them having to make this team.

652
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: This game is critical for them. Let's start with you, David.

653
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: Maybe not like critical, because I think they're both going

654
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: to be on the team. But you know this Maurice

655
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: Kennedy and Jordan Lewis, Like Jordan wasn't available for most

656
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 1: of the Oxnard part of camp. Kennedy took that opportunity

657
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: and ran with it. But Jordan's back as the starting

658
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Speaker 1: slot corner now that he's healthy and he's had a

659
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Speaker 1: couple of good days of practice. So if this is

660
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Speaker 1: a dress rehearsal for I'm curious to see the allotment

661
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: of snaps, Like is Jordan going to get the whole thing,

662
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: when does Kennedy go in, etc? And who looks better?

663
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: Is that job actually up for grabs or were we

664
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: just overreacting? That's what I'm looking at him. Yeah, I

665
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: was gonna throw in a backup receiver, but I mean,

666
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: let's call it what it is. I mean, Garrett Gilbert,

667
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a big moment for him. But

668
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: even though this is his third game, this is you know,

669
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: if they're gonna call it a dress rehearsal, you're gonna

670
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: have the offensive lineman. If those guys are gonna be

671
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: out there, go get your team in the end zone.

672
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: I like the things he's done. He's moved the ball,

673
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: a little bit, get down there and score a touchdown.

674
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: I think if he can go and do that, and

675
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Speaker 1: even without Zeke, whatever I think you'll have without Zeke, though,

676
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: I still think you'll have your tight ends, your offensive line,

677
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: your receivers, go down there and score touchdown in the

678
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: first drive of the game. I think if he does that,

679
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: they may still look at who gets cut and waived

680
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: and all that. We've already seen a name, Josh Rosen.

681
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: You're gonna see names. But I think if he goes

682
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 1: scores a touchdown, I think it solidifies it. If it's

683
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Speaker 1: not already solidified, it will be all right. Here's gonna

684
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685
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Speaker 1: fallow a call from Jim in Dallas. Jim, what you

736
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Speaker 1: got hey, guys, I appreciate you taking my call. You

737
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: kind of kind addressed my Gholston concerns. His McCarthy addressed

738
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: anything regarding his he had a setback? Is it more

739
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: than a hamstring? And also regarding Tristan Hill, I know

740
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Speaker 1: they said he was pretty close in your opinion, is

741
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: that meaning like something next week or are we looking

742
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: at him being puffed as well to start the season.

743
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: All right, thanks for the call. That's a great question.

744
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: I don't think Chauncey's had a setback. I just think

745
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: it was a pretty intense hamstring string that's and I

746
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: get it. It's frustrating, but sometimes it's a ten day

747
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: injury and sometimes it's a month injury. Um Tristan which

748
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to throw shade because I've never

749
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: had to rehab a torn ligament before, but you know,

750
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin tore his ACL in what week one and

751
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: was doing things by the offseason program and was ready

752
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: for the first day of camp. Tristan tore his in

753
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: week six. Dad whatever, Yeah, same game as Dad, and

754
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: and he's still working on I don't say that to

755
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: say like, oh, he's he's not working hard or anything

756
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: like that. You can't compare injuries. But if you had

757
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: told me that he wouldn't be ready this far into

758
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: training camp back in the spring, I would have been

759
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: surprised by that. I just it just doesn't follow the

760
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: timeline that I'm used to. Again, not hating on the guy,

761
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: but it is interesting. And as the same thing with Chauncey,

762
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: like if you're not mixing in and doing things now,

763
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: it's to lean toward thinking like, okay, there, it's not

764
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: expecting you to be ready for the start of the season. Yeah,

765
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: I mean this is gonna be This is another example

766
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: of cut down day is going to be interesting. The

767
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: next day is going to be just as interesting. You know,

768
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: there there are going to be players I think that

769
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: get cut that will be on the team forty eight

770
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: hours later. And because of that, I think you've got

771
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: because you've got guys like Tristan Hill, who I would imagine,

772
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: you know, he'll probably be on the roster first day

773
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 1: and then and then maybe move to the pup list,

774
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: which and is that how that works? Because honestly, starting

775
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: on the season, pup has been kind of rare here

776
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: at least, like that doesn't happen to a lot of guys.

777
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: So you've got to I know, you can't go to

778
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: injured reserve, but is it the same thing with pup,

779
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: Like you got to be on the team for a

780
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: day before they can do that. Well maybe maybe, okay,

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00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I'm I'm miss boke I are

782
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: to return, That's what I'm talking about, okay, And that's

783
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: where he'll have to be on the on the roster

784
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Speaker 1: for for a day. Explain to people what the difference

785
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: is as far as the amount of time you got

786
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: to be out. Is there a difference? Honestly, I don't

787
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: think he could. I don't think you can put a

788
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: guy on PUP if he've already not put him on.

789
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: I think that's a designation for the start of the season.

790
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: But he is right now. He was on the training

791
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: count act, so he's on he's on active pup, which

792
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: and that's and so that that's where the differences. But

793
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: he he counts toward the roster right now, whereas and

794
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: so then if they move him to end season pup,

795
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: then he doesn't count toward the roster. Are I think?

796
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: I think? I think they'll probably put him on IR

797
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: to return is only three weeks? Yeah, through but the

798
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: minimum is three weeks. Yeah, he's gotta be three is

799
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: like six weeks? Right, Yeah, it makes it makes more

800
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: sense I think to put him on IR to return,

801
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: But he's got to start, you know, getting back in there.

802
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't sorry, go ahead, but to do that, he's

803
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: gonna have to be on the roster for one day

804
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: and then they'll you know, they'll cut players and then

805
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: bring them back. I don't get the impression Tristan's going

806
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Speaker 1: to be on the fifty three at the outset, No,

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Speaker 1: nor um. Let's let's real quick. We'll take a question

808
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: from Dot's hell on. He is on Twitter, and he says,

809
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Speaker 1: at what point does Kellen Moore get placed on the

810
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Speaker 1: hot seat with consistently early offensive struggles. With consistent early

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Speaker 1: offensive struggles and bad red zone execution three years, He's

812
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Speaker 1: not on the hot seat. He's not on the hot

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Speaker 1: seat at all, they love him here and maybe not

814
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Speaker 1: three years, but I mean three years years along now

815
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Speaker 1: he's not on the hot seat. Yeah, he's not one.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Does that stem from

817
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: the from from preseason? I just I don't care that

818
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: they bogged out in the red zone when Garrett Gilbert

819
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Speaker 1: and Terrence Steel are playing. I'm sorry. I think that's

820
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: the point I was getting too, is I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of fans probably look at last year and they're like,

822
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: there were all kinds of offensive problems. But yeah, there

823
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: were all kinds of offensive problems, and they all stem

824
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: from the fact that basically had your second team out there.

825
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: Two telling quotes. Zeke told us this week that Kellen

826
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Speaker 1: Moore started training camp, the first thing he said to

827
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Speaker 1: the offense was the goal is to be number one.

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Speaker 1: The goal is to be the best offense in the league.

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy said yesterday that Kellen Moore's relationship with Dak

830
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Speaker 1: Prescott is the most important relationship in the organization. He

831
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: was like, I have a good relationship with Dak, but

832
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: I've told him a hundred times I don't care about

833
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: our relationship half as much as I care about your relationship.

834
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Speaker 1: With Kellen, and that's why he wanted Kellen to call

835
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: the plays. He didn't want Dak to change systems. He

836
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: went through this whole spiel about like the most successful

837
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are the ones that stay in a system and

838
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: get comfortable and thrive in it rather than changing all

839
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: the time. So first of all, that should tell you

840
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: Kellen's not on any kind of hot scene and he

841
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: decides the league and what could happen also, but well,

842
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: for sure, but I'm going to hold Kellen to that.

843
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: To what Zeke said, if your goal is to be

844
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: the best, yeah, then I'm going to hold you to

845
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: the standard of if they are not top five, and

846
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, Tampa Bay is a different thing, but like

847
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: after a month of the season or so, if they

848
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: don't look like they're clicking, then that's problematic and criticize

849
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: the hell out of you for it. If your goal

850
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: is to be number one, let's be honest. They're probably

851
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: thirty two camps where the offensive coordinator walked into the

852
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: offensive meeting on from day one and said our goals

853
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: would be the best offensive the league. They have the

854
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: personnel to back it up. I get that, but I'm

855
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: just saying, like that to me Zeke saying that, he

856
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: said that everybody's saying that, by the way, it happened

857
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: in the defensive room, and I don't think any of

858
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: us think this defense is going to be the top

859
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: of the league. Yeah, okay, And maybe Mike McCarthy said

860
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: that yesterday too. He was like, everybody thinks they're going

861
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl at this time of year,

862
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,479
Speaker 1: Well do they? That's at least what they're telling their team.

863
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: There are there's got to be at least six teams

864
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: right now where the coaches are watching tape and they're

865
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, but they're not telling. They're

866
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: not telling. Okay, I don't care. Kellen Moore has the

867
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: personnel to be the best off in league and that

868
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: is the standard. They don't have to be numbers of today.

869
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: Let's say that, because you know that's the thing. Injuries

870
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: are an issue. They don't have to be number one.

871
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: But if everybody's healthy, this should be a top five

872
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: scoring and yardage and efficiency offense. And that is let's

873
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: stand that's what I expect. So I play better in

874
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: the first quarter of games, and that it does go

875
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: on the preparation of the team offensive coordinator all that

876
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: they need to come out and have better opening drives. Um,

877
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: we've seen it in the past where they have been

878
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: really good at that and it sets the tone for

879
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: the entire game. So they need to do that way

880
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: better than they've had in the past. All right, let's

881
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: get a phone call from Javier and Austin. Javier, what up? Hey?

882
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: Guy taught to going uh the first time caller? Um

883
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: A two questions for y'all. One, I was just wondering

884
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: if there was I don't any update, you know on

885
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence. I know, I guess like the overall

886
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: vibe of him is that he's gonna be ready on

887
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: the season opener. But I was just wondering if I

888
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: can get an update on that. And then my my

889
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: second point is my ready a question? You know, on

890
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: yesterday's show, y'all kind of talked about how, you know,

891
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: how Cooper was still the the number one receiver on

892
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: the team, and although I guess you could say at

893
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: the time that it is true, I guess my point is, like,

894
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: moving forward, could his injury history you know, proved to

895
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: be that CD Lamb is now the number one because

896
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: he has proven of course, albeit it's been one year

897
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: to be available for every week. And then I guess

898
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: my reference for that is, you know, I feel like

899
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: in the NBA, whereas Kawhi Leonard, like, you know, for

900
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: a long time, people were saying that he was going

901
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: to be a better a Lebron, he was going to

902
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: be the best player in the league, you know, day

903
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: and day out. But for him, his biggest thing, he's

904
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: not available every day or for every game. And that's

905
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: the guys. Then thanks, let's talk about that one first. Um,

906
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: the to me, you know who who decided The Cowboys

907
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: don't decide necessary other than paying them. But in the

908
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, each game, the defense decides who a number

909
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: one receivers, not the offense. So um, they'll let they'll

910
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: let you know what you know, what they're trying to do,

911
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 1: you know, and and who they're trying to take away

912
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: and all that. I mean, I don't know. I think

913
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: it's so close it doesn't matter. But I do I

914
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: do think that there is there's a reason why the

915
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: Raiders got rid of them. I mean, they just wanted

916
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 1: to cut ties with him, and they were maybe fed

917
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: up with the nagging stuff. It's not major stuff, it's

918
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: just nagging injuries. We still see it now, and they

919
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: wanted to part ways with it, and they got a

920
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: first round pick for it. And I think both sides

921
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: would probably say that they're happy for with it. I

922
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: don't think so. You think the Raiders are happy with

923
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: what they're getting out of Jonathan Abrams, I don't. I

924
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: doubt it and and Amory, but they wanted They didn't

925
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: think he was gonna match with their car anymore, and

926
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: they were tired of messing with it. I'm thrilled that

927
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: he's here, but that John Gruden did something stupid like

928
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: John and John Gruden strikes me, which so I was

929
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: about to go on a whole different rant. Why do

930
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: we call Amari Cooper injury prone? Is it because he

931
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: pulled himself out of the Jets game after three plays?

932
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 1: Is that why? Because I'm looking at it, he's missed

933
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: one game in the time that he's been a cowboy

934
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: one he's been he played sixteen games last year, he

935
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: played sixteen games, And you're like, what is it because

936
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: he's on the injury you know what it is. You

937
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: know what it is. It's it's that, It's it's stuff

938
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 1: like this, it's our show when we're talking about throughout

939
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: the leak, Well, Amari, I don't know if he's gonna

940
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: play this week. He shows up every Sunday. He has

941
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: injuries throughout the week, and so people will and so

942
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: for for fans who are out there listening, it feels

943
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: like he's always injured, even though he's really showing up

944
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: for games, and so it doesn't really matter. This isn't

945
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: And that's what this goes back to what we were

946
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: talking about before, Like fans just want the peace of mind,

947
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: like they don't want to have to think about you. Right,

948
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: But guess what this isn't Madden right likes football. This

949
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: is a ridiculously violent game. Cooper actually went through it.

950
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: He went in detail about that Jets thing the other day.

951
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, I could barely walk on Monday

952
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: after the Packers game, Like I my bone bruise. He

953
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: was like, it hurt, Like hell, I don't even know

954
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: how I got ready to go. And then the exact

955
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: thing that I was terrified of happening happened. He caught

956
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: a ball in the flat on the second play of

957
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: the game and got tackled right onto it, and he

958
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: was just like, holy crap like I can't do it.

959
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: And if that still rubs you the wrong way, that's fine.

960
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: He pulled himself out. He was healthy enough to get

961
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: into the game. If it bothers you, the guys played

962
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: like basically every game since he got here. I don't

963
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: care when how much he's on the injury report. He

964
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: is not a hurt guy. He hasn't been. That doesn't

965
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: there's no evidence to back you up when you say that.

966
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't remember where I was going, But that's just

967
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: something that's always kind of annoyed me. So if CD

968
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: overtakes him as the number one receiver in Amari is healthy,

969
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: then CD's probably overtaking everybody but three or four players

970
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: in the league as one of the top players, which

971
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: and that could absolutely happen. Like if CD, if he

972
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: builds on this, on what he's looked like, we absolutely

973
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: might be talking about him as like one of the

974
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: ten best receivers in the league by the time the

975
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: season's over. I mean maybe absolutely. And that's what do

976
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: I always say when this comes up. I just say

977
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to go there yet, because Amari has

978
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: this amazing resume and I've seen him do it and

979
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: we're still projecting with Lamb. Even though it looks like

980
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: a safe projection, I still want to see it, you know,

981
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: And that's no go ahead. I was gonna say that.

982
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: And that's the thing I was I was mentioning on

983
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: our show Wednesday, was that the both things can be true.

984
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: Amari can still be a great receiver and Cedee Lamb

985
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: can ascend to being one of the top five receivers

986
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: in the league. That can be Both of those things

987
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: can be true. And by the way, when you were

988
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: talking about the defenses determine who's going to be the

989
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: number one receiver that also can fluctuate game to game,

990
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: possession to possession. There may be certain situations in games

991
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: where teams are like, this is the guy we need

992
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: to take away in this situation red zone. They're going

993
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: to be concerned about Cede Lamb. There may be other

994
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: situations where they're like, well, more concerned about Amari Cooper.

995
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: So look, both of them can exist as that level

996
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: of great wide receiver. Ever, I just think Ceedee Lamb

997
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: is on a trajectory where he might be one of

998
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: the best in the league, if not the best in

999
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: the league. At some point here in the next year

1000
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: or two years, three years, he could be. This is

1001
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: a column that I'm working on. But this team needs

1002
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: to get out of the six and ten mode in

1003
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: more ways than one. Obviously, they were six and ten

1004
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: last year. If you look at that, this year, they'll

1005
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: get out of it. Yeah, well I definitely will. But

1006
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: but with with seventeen games schedule. But if you look

1007
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: at where they are, like when they were winning championships

1008
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: and the nineties, I mean you could say they had

1009
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: top five quarterback, running back, receiver, tight end, you know,

1010
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: and then of course the offensive line and all that stuff. Safety.

1011
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if they have a top five other

1012
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: than guard. I don't know if they have a top five.

1013
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: I think they have a lot of six to tens.

1014
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: They are a lot of that. So clever. Where when

1015
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: did this pop into your head? Was that like a

1016
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: shower thought? No, that's what you know. You do your

1017
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: best thinking? No, no, no, no, I just were when

1018
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: I'm working out, that's my best thinking. Well, no, six

1019
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: to ten though, And honestly, I just I just did

1020
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: the six and ten record reference just now, like ten

1021
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: seconds ago. But six and ten I was thinking, you know,

1022
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: they I think if you look at the best quarterbacks.

1023
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: We can argue all day long, but I just think

1024
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: Dak is probably right there, right there. It's like Romo

1025
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: always was, like right about seven or eight, like Zeke

1026
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: right right now, that's where he kind of is. I

1027
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: think that's where Cooper is. Hell, CD might jump in

1028
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: there too. At the tight end. We're not there yet.

1029
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: I think Tyran Smith he's gonna have to prove it.

1030
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: But I think right now they're voting him, you know,

1031
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: they're putting him in that six, seven, eight, nine, you know,

1032
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe maybe Lyle's a right tackle, maybe

1033
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: in the six to ten. But other than other than

1034
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: Zach Martin, they've got really really good players. They need

1035
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: to play like an elite status and I think if

1036
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: you start winning, you would get there. But they need

1037
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: to get more guys from the six and ten range

1038
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: into the top five. I'll tell you this, really, the

1039
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: one that's most important is the quarterback. Okay, if you

1040
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: look at it, you look at the teams that have

1041
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: a lot of great success, there's one common denominator. That

1042
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: quarterback is typically in that top well, there's four. Can

1043
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: he cannot really surpass one of the top four right

1044
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: now unless he wins the Super Bowl. I think it's

1045
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: gonna be just if he can have a season, he

1046
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: can have a season that puts him into that conversation,

1047
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: like if he has an MVP type season, he now

1048
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: is in that conversation. Rogers, Mahomes, Brady, and Russell have

1049
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: all won it, and they're guys, and they're right there

1050
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 1: after that, then it's about they're all they're all ready

1051
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 1: to just they're primed for it. It's Josh Allen, It's

1052
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: it's it was, it was the Shawn Watson. I mean,

1053
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: who knows what's going on there? Dak Um miss him.

1054
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: Brady's ruining it for everybody. Yeah yeah, get out of yeah,

1055
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: like and you know, like Rogers is talking about how

1056
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: like Rogers is eyeing retirement clearly like he's only gonna

1057
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: do this for a few more years. Brady's yeah. Um.

1058
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: But I just I just think it's just it's a

1059
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: it's another way of saying that they need to get

1060
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: more guys need to be elite, and if they start winning,

1061
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: they'll be viewed that way. They'll be viewed that way.

1062
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: I think Zeke can get himself back into that top five. Absolutely,

1063
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: I think he can. But there's a lot of good

1064
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: running backs and they're all on the damn schedule. But

1065
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: you know, the interesting part about it, if you look

1066
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: at the running back position across the league, everybody wants

1067
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: to question Zeke, but there are question marks all up

1068
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: and down that top five, Like there are very few

1069
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: of them that you're like, oh yeah, that definitely. I

1070
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: mean there maybe MC questions like Kamara and Kamara and

1071
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: Um and I'm thinking about the guy from Tennessee, Um

1072
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: and Henry. Those two probably have the least questions because

1073
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: they did it last year. Most of those other guys,

1074
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: like they had all kinds of problems throughout the year

1075
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: last year, if not out for the for most of

1076
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: the year, you know. As in case of mccaf, I

1077
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: think he's my favorite non cowboy in the NFL. Of Kamara,

1078
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: I just think he's awesome. You know, if you have

1079
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: a fantasy you love it. He can have a really

1080
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: bad game and he got you twenty six points because

1081
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: he just called eight passes, right. I just loved his game.

1082
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: He looks like he shouldn't be a every down back

1083
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: because you're stereotyping, but he definitely is. And he's he's

1084
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: a fun player to watch absolutely all right, real, Oh

1085
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: we didn't answer the caller's first question. Sorry, Yeah, he

1086
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: was asking about Tank giving up DeMarcus. When we got

1087
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: out to Oxnard, I was like, he looks fine as

1088
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: he's ready to go, man, and I they're being smart

1089
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: with him and he probably doesn't need it, and that's

1090
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: fine by me. But he's gonna be out there week

1091
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: one and he's gonna got an opportunity to give Darn's

1092
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: a ton of snaps. Right, Yeah, it's it's actually it's

1093
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: the same as that. I mean, we we've gotten to

1094
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: see more of Gilbert, We've gotten to see more of

1095
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: the running backs because as we had to see more

1096
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: of him. You gotta remember, this is the first year

1097
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: of McCarthy's had preseason games here with the Cowboys. We

1098
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: don't know this is kind of his plan. We would

1099
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have been as surprised if he would have

1100
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: done it last year. We didn't. We didn't know his

1101
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: plan with this. His plan is I saw everybody hurt

1102
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: last year. I'm not taking any chances and I'm I'm

1103
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: you know, I'm more and I mean like I'm not exaggerating.

1104
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: July twenty second, I saw DeMarcus working out and I

1105
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: was like, he'll he'll be ready. He's not. He's fine.

1106
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you're gonna see those defensive ends

1107
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: really good. And I and we're already kind of seeing

1108
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: a little bit with Darren and we're like, is this

1109
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: what dan quinn does? Because it means Seattle guys, it's

1110
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: hard to even remember who they were. You know, legion

1111
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: of Boom. You know that they're not every you know,

1112
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: they're not names that you know that well. They were good,

1113
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: but I think they were a product of the system

1114
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: more than anything. And I think we could see that here.

1115
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. I think the other

1116
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: part to it. I want to see how this plays out,

1117
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: but I don't think. I mean, at this point, we

1118
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: all have seen it. This team is a leaner than

1119
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: they've been in the past. You go down the list

1120
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: and every like guy, one guy after the other. It

1121
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: came back a lot leaner than they were before. And

1122
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: I want to see how that plays out in a season.

1123
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: Was this something that that was consciously done they I

1124
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: mean they the offensive lineman talked about the fact that

1125
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: they did a lot more running this offseason and they

1126
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: were better conditioned coming into camp. I want to see

1127
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: how this all plays out into a season. Does being

1128
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: leaner actually helped you throughout a seventeen game season? We'll

1129
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: see you think Carol Nash would draw me up a

1130
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: plan your I got a plan for you, guys. Yeah,

1131
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: I got a plan for you guys. Let's do it.

1132
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: Skid lean, skid lean. Nick was like, but now, I

1133
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: mean Jesus, yes, fat boy, Yeah, yeah, forgot but you

1134
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: can't run, so I can't. Yeah, you got some figure

1135
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: it out. Um, yesterday it got a chance to talk

1136
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: to Mike McCarthy a little bit, talk to some of

1137
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: the beat writers. It was really good. It was it

1138
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: was it was on the record, but it was also

1139
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: there's some things that got off the record. It was,

1140
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: you know, just real personable and it was great. It's

1141
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: great to have those moments when he allows that. And um,

1142
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: he said something I thought was really interesting. You know,

1143
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 1: he said about the defense. I think it was about

1144
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: the defense more than anything. He said, we got some dudes.

1145
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 1: We got some dudes over there. Said it. He said

1146
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: it in a way of like got some you know,

1147
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: and and you said leaner, but they're they're also a

1148
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: bigger team. They're taller, long more, you know, got more

1149
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 1: presents to them and uh, he you just something about

1150
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: the way he said it, you could just tell like

1151
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: he is he is. He doesn't want to say it

1152
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: yet because you don't want to be burned. But I

1153
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: think he believes this defense has made a big jump

1154
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: and and and they're going to be a physical team

1155
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: that that that hits people. He also said that he

1156
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: thought the Minnesota game was going to really turn it

1157
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: all around last year. That was exactly how they wanted

1158
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: to play games. Balanced, tough, knocking around Dalvin Cook, ball

1159
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: flying in the air, comeback, win the game, defense not

1160
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: playing well until you absolutely had to and you made

1161
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: a stop and you got off the field. Sorry, you

1162
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: don't get to play Kirk Cousins more, but when you know,

1163
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 1: but you know it was a good win. Now, there

1164
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: was no I mean there was the sound, there was

1165
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: the but there wasn't any crowd behind that damn horn

1166
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: at honk horn means your quarterback brought us. If you

1167
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: hear that, horror means they're scraping your quarterback off the

1168
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: ground with a spatchel at them at the Metrodome. Yeah,

1169
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: because he's playing you know, yeah, right, just trying to

1170
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: get a football football win here. All right, guys, we

1171
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us. We'll be back on next Tuesday.

1172
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 1: We'll get you guys. We'll catch up on what happened

1173
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 1: during the game. We'll also get start getting you guys

1174
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: ready for the final cuts that'll happen. Like they have

1175
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: a cut to eighty next week and then cut to

1176
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: the final roster the following week. So we may start

1177
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: talking a little bit about that, maybe even start talking

1178
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: a little bit about preview of Cowboys versus Buccaneers. We'll

1179
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: see about that when when we when we're back for

1180
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: Dave Helm and Nicki. But I'm Derek Elton. This has

1181
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

1182
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

1183
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.