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Speaker 1: You're listening to Talking Traders with Me Tamara Judge. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Talking Traders with Tamar Judge. Today we have

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Speaker 1: a special guest, Dan the Trader.

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Tamar's so good to see you.

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Speaker 1: I know, we have actually not really spoke since we

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Speaker 1: were in the castle.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to say whose fault that was,

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Speaker 3: But when we got out, I was like, blah blah

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Speaker 3: blah blah, DM Tammer, what's up?

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Speaker 2: What's up? What's up?

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Speaker 1: And I thought you murdered me, Dan?

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Speaker 2: So when did that change?

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Speaker 3: Like when did you go from like okay, Dan was

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Speaker 3: like after me to like, no, Dan really liked me

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Speaker 3: and was trying to work with me in the game.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that I ever thought that, but

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Speaker 1: I think that. I mean, I don't want to give

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Speaker 1: too much away because we have the reunion, but we

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Speaker 1: had a full conversation the night before I got murdered,

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Speaker 1: so obviously I thought it wasn't shown, so maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: see a little clip of it at the reunion. But

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Speaker 1: I truly thought that you were the one that murdered me.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, damn it. He had me con I

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Speaker 1: knew you were a Trader. I knew it. I knew it.

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Speaker 1: I knew it, So it was just one of those things. Well,

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Speaker 1: obviously I suspected it. I wasn't one hundred percent certain,

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Speaker 1: but I felt it and I felt like we could

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Speaker 1: work together. But that didn't work out because I was murdered. Yes,

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Speaker 1: let's get into some host chat.

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Speaker 2: I have some.

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Speaker 1: Questions for you. Let's do it, and we had some

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Speaker 1: fans ask some questions, and here they are. You were

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Speaker 1: the first Trader to be banished, but you lasted until

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Speaker 1: episode six. Did you think you're gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: make it to the end. I mean, I think everybody

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Speaker 1: was hoping.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, Like going into it, I'm like, Okay, if

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Speaker 3: people don't know who I am, I have a chance

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Speaker 3: to like stay in the game.

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Speaker 2: If anyone knows who I am, I'm in trouble.

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Speaker 3: Like it's been so long since I've been on TV,

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Speaker 3: and so when I got there, I'm like, hammer has

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Speaker 3: no clue how I am.

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Speaker 2: Like most people didn't know who I was.

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Speaker 3: No, so that was like that actually helped out a

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Speaker 3: ton until Janelle blew everything up.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I wanted to go and have fun and

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Speaker 3: challenge myself and it was such a cool show. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's how could you not want to be a part

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Speaker 3: of this? And I think you know now that season

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Speaker 3: two is done extremely well. I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: people are now knocking on the door get oh for sure.

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Speaker 1: So how long had it been since you been on TV?

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Speaker 3: Last time I was on TV, like competing was twenty twelve.

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Speaker 3: So I've done some my guest things, but never to

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Speaker 3: this capacity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah wow? And then how did you get cast on

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Speaker 1: the show? So?

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Speaker 3: Actually I got an email last season it's like, hey,

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Speaker 3: do you want to come on the Traders?

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't know what this is. I

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Speaker 2: just deleted it.

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Speaker 3: And so this time around, I actually got a text

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Speaker 3: and it's like, hey, we sent you two offers to

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Speaker 2: Will you please look at it?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like what, like, because you know, sometimes people

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Speaker 3: leak your number somehow you get it. I looked at

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Speaker 3: it and I was just like, okay, you know it

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Speaker 3: was I knew what the show was at that time,

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Speaker 3: and it was interesting enough where I was excited to

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Speaker 3: play another game.

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Speaker 1: I had a weird way of being cassed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you get cassed.

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Speaker 1: So evidently production, which I've already worked on a show

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Speaker 1: on Peacocks, they have my information. So that's why I

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Speaker 1: was confusing. To me. Two different agents reached out to

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Speaker 1: me and be like, hey, would you want to be

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Speaker 1: on Traders? And I'm like, well yeah, and then I'm thinking, like,

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Speaker 1: it's just bullshit. It's just people trying to pitch my

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Speaker 1: name or something like that. And then evidently they two

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Speaker 1: different people were negotiating for me. So I called Andy

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Speaker 1: and I go, wouldn't they just come to me? Why

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Speaker 1: are they going through random agents that I haven't worked

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Speaker 1: even know what's going on, but we almost just threw

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Speaker 1: you to the side because these people are negotiating hard

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Speaker 1: for you. So I was like, all like, who are they?

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Speaker 1: I don't even know who they are?

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Speaker 2: And do you like circumvent them and just go right

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Speaker 2: to Peacocks.

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Speaker 1: I want writ to keep Peacock. I go, I've worked

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Speaker 1: for this network for many, many years under this umbrella.

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Speaker 2: Why all of a.

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Speaker 1: Sudden is somebody gonna get a cut of you know,

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Speaker 1: I just I was like, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, good for you. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's get to it. Before you were voted off,

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Speaker 1: you wrote down Phaedra's name at the round table watching

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Speaker 1: the show back. Are you surprised she still hasn't been

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Speaker 1: voted off yet?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not surprised because that's how I saw her.

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Speaker 3: I saw her as like the number one threat to

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Speaker 3: win the game. She's so likable, she's great in one

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Speaker 3: and no one suspected her. And to me, that was

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Speaker 3: a problem because it's like, how are you gonna win

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Speaker 3: when someone's playing this well? And so to me, the

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Speaker 3: path to victory was unfortunately through Phaedra, and it, you know,

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Speaker 3: didn't work out. And I think when I went after

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Speaker 3: on alert, like you're gonna come after her, like you

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Speaker 3: better be ironclad because she's just dismantled people time and

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Speaker 1: Do you think she has a strategy or do you

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Speaker 1: think she's or this is her strategy? Just go in.

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Speaker 1: They're not really talk game and just pray on everybody

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Speaker 1: and be sweet and were delicious and you know, all

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Speaker 1: these things that she would throw our way. Like now

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Speaker 1: we see Kate with her going, do you not have

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Speaker 1: a plan? If you're going a trader this whole time,

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Speaker 1: you don't have a plan. Her plan was just good bye,

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Speaker 1: sweet talking people.

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Speaker 2: That's how I felt.

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Speaker 3: And the trader's turt with her is that I would

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Speaker 3: like throw an idea out and it was just kind

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Speaker 3: of like sure, whatever, which is why I want to

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Speaker 3: bring Parverty in. But not to take anything away from Faedra,

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Speaker 3: it's you know, I we're like the opposite. I'm looking

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Speaker 3: way she's playing it is more effective because she's just adapting,

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Speaker 3: you know, as it goes. And I think she just

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Speaker 3: has done a great job. And what I like to

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Speaker 3: call the hand to hand combat, meaning like when someone

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Speaker 3: comes at her, she's right back at him, and then

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Speaker 3: you're kind of like, oh, that was a good answer,

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Speaker 3: and let's find someone else who's.

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Speaker 2: Not a trader.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean by trade, she has been taught to negotiate.

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Speaker 1: She's an attorney's what she's doing. And sometimes you listen

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Speaker 1: to what she's saying, you're like, well, you really put

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Speaker 3: Actually she's done a great job, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: But I also think, yeah, when you're in those situations,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Vhaeder is definitely the queen of read, like she.

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Speaker 2: Is what what does that mean? What does that queen

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Speaker 2: of Reid mean?

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Speaker 1: You can read anybody. She can just put you in

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Speaker 1: your place like that. She is probably one of the

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Speaker 3: And because I knew nothing about her going into this, obviously,

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Speaker 1: She's she's a staple. I'm hoping she'll come back to Housewives.

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Speaker 1: She is on Married to Medicine. It's actually a show

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Speaker 1: I don't watch, so I don't. I watched so many

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Speaker 1: shows I just can't keep up with all of them.

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Speaker 1: But Dan, where do you think you went wrong in

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Speaker 1: the gameplay? If you could go back, would you change

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, in the moment, I wouldn't change

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Speaker 3: anything just because I did the best I could. But now,

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Speaker 3: with like a bird's eye view, I'd like a list

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Speaker 3: of like twenty things I would do different. And I

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Speaker 3: think one of the things is that I'm generally more introverted,

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Speaker 3: and I think I played really really slow.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was able.

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Speaker 3: I felt really comfortable with you, but also we spent

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Speaker 3: a lot of time together, yeah, in transit, and so

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Speaker 3: to me, I'm like, listen first and talk second, because

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Speaker 3: it didn't do well for me this time around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, I expected everybody to think, oh God,

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Speaker 1: So I thought, like, you know, going into it, I

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Speaker 1: God's way of saying, just sit your put down and listen,

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Speaker 1: keep your mouth shut.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we like we were all worried about you,

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Speaker 3: and then when you came back, it was like you're

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Speaker 2: But also your voice was like you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was bad, and the resilience it was really bad.

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Speaker 3: But I will say like, because my you know, my

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Speaker 3: I knew who you were coming in, you know, like

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Speaker 3: when I saw you andim like, I know exactly who

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Speaker 3: that is. But really I felt like you were pretty

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Speaker 3: even keeled, with the exception of Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Like when you were kept going after Kevin, I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 2: this is what I'm using.

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Speaker 1: He bought this ship out of me. He really did.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, how can I mean I like Kevin. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to say I dislike him, but he just

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Speaker 1: has a way of getting under your skin.

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Speaker 2: I felt like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Kate found him annoying and said he should be,

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Speaker 1: you know, gone, just because he's annoying.

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Speaker 3: He's a great guy, but it was fun to watch you,

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Speaker 3: like I saw like your your your meter go off,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, I haven't seen this from Tama the

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Speaker 3: whole time.

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Speaker 1: Then yeah, well then John. At first I was convinced

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Speaker 1: John was a trader and the very beginning for sure.

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Speaker 1: And now like watching the show and I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: Now, a lot of people I've talked to, after you're

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Speaker 3: You know, this is one thing I would do again

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Speaker 1: think that Phager should have picked Peter so he would

438
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,040
Speaker 1: he would stop stop coming from her.

439
00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,160
Speaker 3: You know, that would have been interesting to see Peter

440
00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,200
Speaker 3: in the jail and it's like, here's this guy who's

441
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,679
Speaker 3: on this crusade and it's like you're literally have to

442
00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,359
Speaker 3: join or you leave the game.

443
00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,200
Speaker 2: And it's what a.

444
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,720
Speaker 1: Twist, What a twist? I mean, they have stepped it

445
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,320
Speaker 1: up the season. I mean to have her put in

446
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 1: that Gail, that dungeon, whatever she was, and she's just

447
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,399
Speaker 1: sitting like standing there like you know, it makes it

448
00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,359
Speaker 1: look like she'd been there overnight. You know, it was

449
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,120
Speaker 1: just crazy.

450
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,160
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this real quick on Peter because

451
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,480
Speaker 3: I'm a big Peter fan, but me too, what is

452
00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,159
Speaker 3: your Do you feel like your perception of him playing

453
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 3: the game is different than watching him on television? Because

454
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,399
Speaker 3: I feel that way like I didn't feel like I

455
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,680
Speaker 3: feel like on TV it's very like they put them

456
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,080
Speaker 3: as like holier than now, but I didn't get that

457
00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,200
Speaker 3: feel in person.

458
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 1: Did. It's funny because I felt like Peter didn't really

459
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,760
Speaker 1: like me or we just never connected the first half

460
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,440
Speaker 1: of when I was there, so when we would film,

461
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 1: I just felt like I just didn't know him, and

462
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 1: I felt like, well, he doesn't want to get to

463
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 1: know me. And then where things changed with me and

464
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,399
Speaker 1: Peter is when we did the laser light in the

465
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,800
Speaker 1: middle of the night and he's like, hey, you know, Tam,

466
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 1: there's a shield over there if you want to get it.

467
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 1: And I just felt like at that point then that

468
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,399
Speaker 1: kind of gave us like open the door for us

469
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 1: to talk. And then after that I was really just

470
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 1: listening to what he was saying. I knew he wasn't

471
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 1: I felt like he wasn't a trader, so I was like, okay,

472
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, he just became just

473
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 1: this sweet guy. To me, he was just so sweet.

474
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 1: But to see him now, like you knew talking to him,

475
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 1: he's smart and he is thinking about the game at

476
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 1: all times, much like Janelle.

477
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:33,439
Speaker 2: I'd agree with that.

478
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 1: Janelle was always like I would look across the room

479
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 1: at her and she'd just be gazing and you could

480
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 1: see her mind was going, going, going, It was always gaming.

481
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 1: So I knew Peter was good at what he was doing.

482
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 3: But but no, to circle back. I think it's an

483
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 3: interesting choice. And and I just found MJ fascinating. You know,

484
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:52,919
Speaker 3: she said she had a great job. I was on

485
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 3: the show where it's just like, where did that come from?

486
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 1: I know, do you think it's Peter's fault that the

487
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 1: faithfuls are starting to turn on him? Or do you

488
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 1: think that the trader's manipulation has just been that good?

489
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,439
Speaker 3: I think that the Bravo click is so tight, and

490
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: I think you do.

491
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you that you think the

492
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 1: Bravo click is tight, because you know, I was part

493
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 1: of that Bravo click and I kind of felt like

494
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 1: there was a disconnection between me and Charay. You know,

495
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 1: me and char are friends, but when we were there,

496
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: we were both looking at each other like, I'll trust you,

497
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 1: you don't trust me. I know what Housewise up cable of.

498
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 1: So I didn't feel like it was And we never

499
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 1: really voted the same either. So that's why I'm like,

500
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 1: why do people just grow on the same network? And

501
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,719
Speaker 1: I think that got brought up in this episode. Oh,

502
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: they're on the same network, Like it's like, so what,

503
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 1: Like we're all here to play the same game. So

504
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 1: I personally didn't feel tight with any of the girls.

505
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 3: I feel like the second half of the game really,

506
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 3: like after I got voted out, that that's when you

507
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 3: saw the battle lines drawn. And I think that, you know,

508
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 3: cause I think Peter a really compelling argument and he

509
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 3: knew the week before the numbers were starting to get

510
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: out of hand, and I just feel like, when you

511
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 3: make that compelling of an argument and it still doesn't fly,

512
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 3: I think there's, you know, something else at work, and

513
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 3: it's just your trust. It's like, are you going to

514
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 3: trust someone who you're familiar with or some guy who

515
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 3: you know you're not really that sure of. And I

516
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 3: think he may have, you know, And I love this

517
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 3: about the game, like what people are saying, like Peter's

518
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 3: doing too much, like planning all these seeds and traps

519
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 3: and all these theories.

520
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 2: That's what I love to see.

521
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 3: But I think that also caught up with him in

522
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 3: the end because you saw him lose a ton of distrust.

523
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, people that never question him.

524
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: Let's talk about your exit speech.

525
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 2: What you finding out?

526
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: Well, well, what would you have done it over again?

527
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 3: The exit specially like going after Fader or when I'm

528
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 3: in there, I think we're you know, I had so

529
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 3: many missteps, But I think one is that I think

530
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: with Janelle there, if I take the shot a week earlier,

531
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: I think there's a I have a better chance to survive.

532
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: I don't know that the outcomes different because I just

533
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 3: didn't know who Faedra was, Like I didn't know that

534
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 3: she could defend everything so quickly. And you have to understand,

535
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 3: Tamor like, I've done this before two times, and I'll

536
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 3: do these like big shots and they always work.

537
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 2: This is the first time where it's like it didn't work.

538
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: Do you think that you should have went after parvating?

539
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: Uh?

540
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 3: I think you know, hindsight, yes, but not in hindsight

541
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 3: you're watched, it'll be like, oh, you should take out poverty.

542
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 3: But for me, to me, that buys me a day

543
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 3: or two. Like to go after Fadra. I'm like, if

544
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: I get Faedra the faithful, now think I'm a faithful

545
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 3: because I've been quiet this whole time and I got one,

546
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 3: and then I have a path to the end. I just,

547
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 3: you know, I think what was interesting for me to

548
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 3: see was that, like, and I haven't talked to her

549
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 3: at all. She hasn't talked to me. But I think

550
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 3: Faedra was hurt by me turning on her. And I

551
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 3: don't think I realized how loyal.

552
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 2: She was going to be. I was just scared of

553
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 2: being at the end with her.

554
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: And the Bravo click at this fire, she looks and

555
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 3: they're like, Okay, Dan's gone. Because I saw how many

556
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: friends she had. I'm like, that's tough to beat in

557
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: a game like this, and I think you're seeing it

558
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 3: with Peter right now.

559
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: Do you think the gamers underestimate the housewives?

560
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: Oh? I a thousand percent, did you know?

561
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: I just I think you're so good your day to

562
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 3: day skills on TV are so well suited to make

563
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 3: you successful in the Traders, Like you're used to confrontation,

564
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 3: to sitting people down, to casting doubt on someone, to

565
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 3: defending yourself and you know, I just I was so

566
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 3: impressed with what Faedra did to me at the table.

567
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is you know, I didn't see this

568
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 3: coming and she got me.

569
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: Well, there's some headlines, there's been weekly headlines about the show.

570
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: It's just been so dang popular. So Buzzfy did an

571
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: article with Phaedra set her down. In this article, Fadra

572
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: claimed she offered to help you Dan before the roundtable

573
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: where you were banished. She stated, I knew the night.

574
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: I knew the night he was going to be basically banished,

575
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: and I went to him and said, if there's anything

576
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: I can do to help you, Dan, I will What

577
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: are your plans Dan? He was like, oh, you know,

578
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 1: I'm coming up with something, always very aloof. He's like,

579
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: I would never give you up. I would never betray you, Phaedra,

580
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: and then he goes off and betrays me. Is that true?

581
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: No?

582
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 3: I don't remember that conversational, and I think that's one

583
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 3: of the things that hurt faedrianized relationship in the game

584
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 3: is we never talked because I was, you know, just

585
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: like I was paranoid about being around you now and

586
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 3: people lumping us together. I didn't want to be lumped

587
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: with Phaedra, and so we really rarely talked in the game,

588
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 3: if at all. And the time we talked was in

589
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,239
Speaker 3: the turret and that was really quick. So no, that

590
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 3: didn't that did not happen. What I can say will

591
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 3: happen is we're walking into the roundtable and we hadn't

592
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: talked at all, and she turns to me and she

593
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 3: starts singing, I will follow you, meaning like whatever I

594
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 3: throw out there, she's going.

595
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: To back me up.

596
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: And she's saying it too.

597
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: She's saying it because it was like we're walking in

598
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: and like we hadn't talked, and she's looking back, and

599
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, like the only way I can get

600
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 3: her is by surprise, and that didn't even matter. But

601
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: I think, you know, and I understand, like I think

602
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: she's not thrilled with me is probably you know the

603
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 3: kindest way to say.

604
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: It, But do you think that how's it going to

605
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: go with you guys at the reunion?

606
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: You know, I was going to ask you this. I

607
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: I've never done a reunion. I know this is like,

608
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: you know, you're an expert at well.

609
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: I'm not really in the hot seat, so I'm usually

610
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: in the hot seat. So I'm just going to enjoy

611
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: this reunion. I'm hoping we can have a cocktail, maybe

612
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: a hot dog, I don't know, just sit back, some

613
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: popcorn and watch you guys go at it.

614
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: Can you give me a little advice as someone I

615
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: assume I'm probably going to be in the hot seats,

616
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 3: someone who's been in the hot seat before.

617
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, the housewife advice would be, have your receipts, have

618
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: your proof, have your rundown.

619
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 2: You need to have it all.

620
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 1: But you know, just you know, I think it's just

621
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: the truth. This is a whole different game. Yeah, it's

622
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: a whole different animal. So you're gonna be fine.

623
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. The thing is Tambora.

624
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: One of the biggest adjustments for me, or one of

625
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 3: the realizations from this is that, and I want to

626
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 3: ask you this is that I come out of these

627
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 3: games and I'm like, I like, it was just hard

628
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: because I liked everyone, Like yeah, Pa, I like bananas.

629
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: I liked everyone.

630
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: There's nobody who didn't like Oh, and it's.

631
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 3: Like normally when you played Big Brother, you're like, man,

632
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: I can't wait to get out of this house and

633
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: get away from these people. I liked everyone, so to

634
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: me coming off, I was a little surprised that people

635
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,239
Speaker 3: were really angry. But also I understand because it's like

636
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 3: you like, you trust someone and they turn your back

637
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: before you, Like, do you think that's a Bravo like

638
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 3: gamer thing, like we're used to just going back to

639
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: real life and I don't know, figure that out.

640
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: Slice a Bitch and go back to life. Speaking of

641
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: Slice and a Bitch, Johnny Bananas has gone after you

642
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: on social media.

643
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about that?

644
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it just it's taking a little too personal,

645
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: you know.

646
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: I this is what I can say.

647
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 3: I think that for me, I don't take anything personal,

648
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 3: but I think for me to assume the same from

649
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: other people, it's probably not fair. People have different motives

650
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 3: and different experiences. So it just I guess it's what

651
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: you sign up for when you join a show like this.

652
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. So another headline was a TV Line article interviewer

653
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: sat down with Allan returning player Kate Chastain, executive producer

654
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Speaker 1: Sam Reege Jones and Steven Lambert. They asked Rhys Jones

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Speaker 1: why did producers bring Kate back and so late in

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Speaker 1: the game. He tells them she didn't play the perfect

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Speaker 1: game in season one, so it wasn't like bringing back

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Speaker 1: a mastermind. We want to keep the players always guessing

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen next. It's a murder mystery at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day. So we enjoyed Kate arriving

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Speaker 1: halfway through. Did you like Kate appearing halfway through as

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Speaker 1: a viewer?

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Speaker 2: As a player?

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Speaker 3: I knew her personality type from watching the first season.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, this is not good because I think she's

666
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Speaker 3: really cool as a person. She's great TV. But I

667
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: knew how she was gonna be. She was gonna call

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Speaker 3: things out. There wasn't there's no filter, and if something

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00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: seemed a little off, she's not gonna come ask you

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00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: about it. She's just gonna blow you up. And so

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00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: that kind of personality coming into the game, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Like, Oh, she's a little comic relief too. She really is.

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Speaker 1: They also asked the panel if Alan has a say

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Speaker 1: in selecting the traders, which in short is yes. Reyes

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Speaker 1: Jones goes on to say, we do a personality test

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Speaker 1: with everyone before they go in, which gives us a

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Speaker 1: bit more of an idea of if they could take

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Speaker 1: it on. Allan chimes in to admit, it's the most

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00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: terrifying part of the whole series for me, select because

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Speaker 1: if I get up hugely by just banging somebody with

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00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: my elbow, my heart is pounding. But I do all

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00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: these tricks to sort of confuse them. Stop, walk back.

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00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: He moves his arms, moves his elbows. I actually heard him.

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Speaker 1: What I thought was this jacket move to tap you.

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Speaker 1: I really thought that, because you know he's wearing all

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Speaker 1: this big old costumes stuff.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, thanks for not saying anything.

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00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: I know I didn't because you know, then I started

689
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: second guessing myself because Lars accused poverty of the same thing.

690
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: Like I heard him like, you're a trader. And then

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Speaker 1: you know how that went. The personality test, the testing

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00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 1: we had to do physically, mentally, go to the doctor,

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Speaker 1: all the things. It was a lot. At one point,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't have time for this shit, guys.

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Speaker 3: The thing that surprised me was the swim test when

696
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Speaker 3: we were there I've never done anything like that, and

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00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: I just you remember, did you do the swim test?

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Speaker 1: I did the swim test. And I'm telling you something.

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Speaker 1: After sitting in that damn hotel room for two days,

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Speaker 1: I was so excited. I really felt like I was

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Speaker 1: in prison. They're like, okay, we are now picking you

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Speaker 1: up from your room and we're going to drive you

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Speaker 1: to like a YMCA. You know, it's the only time

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Speaker 1: we got out of the hotel in the in two days.

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Speaker 1: And when I say in the hotel, in our room

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Speaker 1: with nobody, nobody in British TV, that's it. So they

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Speaker 1: took us to this room and I'm like, okay, They're like,

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00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: here's your clothes. It's like, you really feel like you

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Speaker 1: were a prisoner.

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Speaker 3: Would would you ever consider doing Celebrity Big Brother? No,

711
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Speaker 3: not even like remotely considered.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't.

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00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: My friend Teddy, my co host for teasing a pod,

715
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Speaker 1: she did it.

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Speaker 2: She she loves doing experience or well, she.

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Speaker 1: Got let go pretty quickly, so she didn't have the

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Speaker 1: full experience. But you know, it was during COVID and

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Speaker 1: she was literally in She had to be quarantined for

720
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: thirty or a week before like just sit in a

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Speaker 1: hotel room looking out a window, and I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: would have been gone crazy by that. So poverty is

723
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Speaker 1: done with reality TV. She's saying, I don't see another

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Speaker 1: show like this for me, unless it's Dancing with the

725
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: Stars or Drag Race. I don't really want to do

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Speaker 1: another show where it's manipulating and emotional warfare. It's triggering

727
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Speaker 1: me to do that. Oh, but you're so good at it, Parverty.

728
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: Parverty's new dream is to host her own show. Well,

729
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: that's probably pretty much everybody's. She says, I'd like to

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Speaker 1: do that. Alan is iconic on The Traders and weaves

731
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Speaker 1: himself into the fabric of the show and da da

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00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: da da. So do you think that's true. I think

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Speaker 1: if she gets off for another show, she'll do it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it would be extremely I would

735
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Speaker 3: place the large bet there's Survivor's fifties coming in a

736
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Speaker 3: couple of years or whatever.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a massive survivor.

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Speaker 3: If they run that show and she's not on it,

739
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Speaker 3: people are going to be up in arms.

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Speaker 2: I think they will entice her enough. But I get it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we had a chance to spend a lot

742
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Speaker 3: of time with poverty. We're in the same car, and

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Speaker 3: it's hard to go from like and it's I think

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00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: it's even harder for her to go from like.

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00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: A villain because she was a villain on Survivor. She

746
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Speaker 2: destroyed people.

747
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Speaker 3: And the social media backlash I think that she got

748
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: you know, took a somewhat of her Yeah, and now

749
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 3: she's like, you know, evolved, She's not that person and

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Speaker 3: never I mean it's like, we play these characters on

751
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Speaker 3: TV and we're not those people.

752
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: But that you know, sometimes I.

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Speaker 1: Believe the audience doesn't they don't care, and I know

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00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: that for like you, it's been over ten years since

755
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: you're on TV, and social media is so different and

756
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: play such a big role on your emotional state.

757
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: Like literally, I will say this. So Big Brother has

758
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: live feeds you can watch all the time.

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Speaker 3: The fans are very passionate, nothing compared to Bravo fans

760
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 3: like what I've experienced, and I could take it off

761
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 3: the grain of salt. It doesn't bother me. But there

762
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 3: are some passionate Bravo fans. I understand now why there's

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Speaker 3: a Bravo con why it's huge.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I get it, Like Bravo.

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Speaker 1: Fans can be crazy.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's my take on this is that normally, for

767
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: someone like you to Tama on your show, there's like, okay,

768
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: Housewive against Housewive.

769
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Speaker 2: If you're a Bravo fan, you pick aside. Well, guess what.

770
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: The Traders united all those people to go at someone else,

771
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: and it's like, for once, they're all on the same

772
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: side going after one person. And I get it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's like rooting for your favorite sports team.

774
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: It's like, we want Team Bravo to win. You know,

775
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 3: I guess I don't take any of it personal, but.

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Speaker 1: It Robo doesn't care how shittyest Housewives played. They just

777
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: want a housewife to win, that's for sure. So let's

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Speaker 1: get into the actual episode now. So Phaedra asked Kate

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00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: to join her as a trader, but if she declines,

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00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: she'll be murdered. Kate accepts. She knows she wasn't really

781
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: given a choice, but she thinks she could. This could

782
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: be fun. Kate is surprised and disappointed that Faedra is

783
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: the only trader left. When Fadra's asked what's the strategy,

784
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: Kate is frustrated she doesn't already have a plan. So

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Speaker 1: that's me earlier saying like I feel like Fadri's just

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00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: playing a character. I don't think she's really playing as

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Speaker 1: a gamer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and to her credit's working, but that that's working.

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00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 3: That's how I felt in the trader churt with her.

790
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: I'd have like ideas and I'd throw them out there,

791
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: be like who do you want? What do you think?

792
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 3: And it was just kind of deflected back to me.

793
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: And maybe it's a great strategy because in her hands,

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00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: you know, she never has blood on her hands.

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Speaker 1: But also it's like, well, I would probably play that

796
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: way too, because I don't I don't strategize and you know,

797
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: do that, do this? And if I do that, that's

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00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: going to happen. Like I mean in Housewife, w Old,

799
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: I can do that, but in gaming world, like you

800
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: really have to think like ten steps ahead.

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Speaker 3: See I think, but see, I think if you were

802
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 3: there for the second half of the game, I feel

803
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: like the first half of the game is just thinning

804
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: people out right. There's so many people there, it doesn't matter.

805
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: I think if you're in the second half game, I

806
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: think you do very well because you're in tune to everyone.

807
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 3: And I think that stuff is like for you second nature.

808
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: I really do. I think you would have been great

809
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: at it.

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00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: Phedra threw you a little shade in this episode. She

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Speaker 1: said Dan was like drinking dry milk with toasts, no better,

812
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 1: no jam Kate said she had a weird vibe from

813
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: you as well. Do you care to respond to that?

814
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: You know, I don't take any of it personal. I

815
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: just I take it as Phaedra and I've never talked

816
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 3: to her. I feel like she's was hurt by what

817
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 3: I did, and I can understand why she's.

818
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: Probably I was hurt by what she did.

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Speaker 3: So and because we never talked about when, like when

820
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 3: did you figure out it wasn't me? And then I

821
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Speaker 3: got a phone calls from like a San Francisco number.

822
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know a name from San Francisco,

823
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 3: so I didn't answer it.

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Speaker 2: What if you answer that call? What would have I was.

825
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: Literally in San Francisco doing a live show with my

826
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Speaker 1: podcast with Teddy, and the show's airing. It's a Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, my phone is blowing up

828
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: and it's basically, Phaedra is the one that murdered you.

829
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Speaker 2: And I went prior to that where you just like, oh,

830
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: screw Dan. You know, I'm mad at him, doad.

831
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Speaker 1: I was just gonna deal with you at the reunion,

832
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: and so then I don't really have anything to deal with,

833
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, And I thought, oh my god, so he

834
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: wasn't lying, he wasn't like, because you really sucked me in.

835
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: Like I really thought, like, God, this guy's so nice.

836
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: And he talks about his wife and we talk about

837
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: our relationships and kids and really got to know each

838
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: other on a personal level. And then I'm like, and

839
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: then is that his strat? And everyone's like, that's his strategy.

840
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: That's what he does. He gets to know you, and

841
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: then you know, he gets rid of you. I'm like, oh, wow,

842
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: well I was fooled.

843
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 3: No, well that's like but that's like, that's whoy I

844
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 3: am genuinely, But in these games, it's like our next conversation,

845
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: once we're to that comfort level is then we start

846
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: talking strategy. But yeah, I only had time to get

847
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: to know people. I didn't get the second part.

848
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Speaker 2: Wait, So if I would have picked up the call,

849
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: what would you have said?

850
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: I would have I said, oh my god, I'm so sorry, Dan,

851
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: I was just found out that you know it wasn't you.

852
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: I feel horrible, like I was ready to go on

853
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: stage when I called you.

854
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 3: I appreciate it because that was like when I DM

855
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 3: you and like you kind of ghosted me. Slash told me,

856
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 3: not like you didn't tell me not to talk. But

857
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: that's a vibe I got.

858
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, man, good ghosting, really good. So the

859
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: players arrived to breakfast. Kate, Sandra, and CT are all

860
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: questioning Peter's credibility. Peter is shocked to still be alive

861
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: and is hoping to see Trichelle and Kevin. MJ asked

862
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: Kate if she's okay. She doesn't seem like she's all there.

863
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: Kate is worried people are already suspecting she's a trader.

864
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: She's still processing her shift from faithful to trader. The

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Speaker 1: last two arrived as Trischelle Kevin was murdered. Alan said, oh,

866
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: Kevin up in heaven and throws his thing down. I

867
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: am impressed with MJ knowing something was off with Kate

868
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: right away, and we talked about this earlier that, I mean,

869
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: her radar was there.

870
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 3: There's moments where like MJ, what are you doing? And

871
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: then there's like MJ how did you do? Like, how

872
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 3: did you figure this out?

873
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: And I think she's an enigma to watch.

874
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: She is she this episode? I was all into MJ.

875
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 2: Did you know MJ at all prior to this.

876
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: Or yeah, a little bit, not not super well, but

877
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: I did. In fact, I had run into her right

878
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: before we were to go to Scotland.

879
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: I did.

880
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: I was at Serious Radio doing Jeff Lewis and she

881
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 1: was there.

882
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: Did you guys like, wink wink, nudge nudge, are you

883
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 3: going to Scotland?

884
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: Or you didn't even you had no clue.

885
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing. I had talked to Jeff

886
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: Lewis off camera. I'm really good friends and I know

887
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: I wasn't supposed to do this, but I'm like, hey,

888
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: I got asked to do Traders. He goes, so did I.

889
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you know who Jeff Lewis is,

890
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: but the radio guy he is radio now but he

891
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 1: did the show Flipping Out, who was on Bravo Interior

892
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: decorating all that. He's got another show now on Amazon.

893
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: But he goes, I had to turn down. He's a

894
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: single dad. So he's like, I can't leave Monroe, and

895
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: I said, oh, bummer he's all, but MJ's doing it,

896
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I go, well, I don't know her

897
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: that well, and I don't know that I should talk

898
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: to her about this. He goes, I'll tell her. The

899
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: next thing I know, m Jay was texting me, so

900
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: kinda knew she was going so Phaedra's goal is to

901
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: break apart the Peter alliance. Once they get rid of him,

902
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: the rest of them will scatter. CT tells Trichelle it's

903
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: time to consider Peter could be a trader. Trichelle tells

904
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: John they are outnumbered at the roundtable tonight. Peter says

905
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: they need to convince Sandra and CT to vote their side.

906
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: CT tells Peter he's leaning towards him to vote out.

907
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: I loved his honesty when he said, who are you thinking?

908
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: He's like you, brother, you you're the one that's going tonight.

909
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: Do you think Peter messed up his game last week

910
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: by trying to protect poverty.

911
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: I think the strategy of it. I really like the strategy.

912
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 3: I just think in this game, if you give anyone

913
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 3: a reason to like doubt you, that's it's like the

914
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: kiss of death. And I feel like some people didn't

915
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: understand what he was doing or didn't agree with it,

916
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: and that was enough. And but you know, I got

917
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: to give Fader credit. She's right, like, if you take

918
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 3: him out, there's no one to unify that group anymore.

919
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 3: And then they just pick him off one by one,

920
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 3: you know, the Bravo people.

921
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean Peter was right. He was absolutely right.

922
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: And he put his life out on the line there

923
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: trying to explain to everybody that he knew that Phaedra

924
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: was a trader, he knew that Privaty was a trader,

925
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: and he knew that he was going to probably get murdered,

926
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: but he was willing to take that chance.

927
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: I felt like he did a really good job explaining

928
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 3: exactly what he had done, and you know the history

929
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: of his behavior.

930
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: I think what really hurt once again is Kate. Like

931
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: Kate is always in there like throwing a bar of

932
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: doubt and yes, and.

933
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: It's like and Peter when he explains things, and he's

934
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: very convincing, very convinced. He is sharp. I mean, anybody

935
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: that's flying around hundreds of people in the air and

936
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: protecting their life and getting there safe, he's my type

937
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: of guy.

938
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm a big Peter Fan and I think

939
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 3: you know it probably you know it's not just Peter,

940
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: It's it's Kate.

941
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: And you know, I think Kate being.

942
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: There really shook everything up, because she can take a

943
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 3: really well logical statement and just kind of throw something

944
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 3: kind of funny or you know, a little distracting, then

945
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: all of a sudden dismisses his whole argument.

946
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: I really liked today's mission. I thought it was fun.

947
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: You didn't have to get wet or dirty or full

948
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: of bugs. So each player has a stained glass window

949
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: with their name on it. Players will use a crossbow

950
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: to shatter the names until one is remaining. The name

951
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: remaining intact will earn a shield. The players stared off

952
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: with twenty five thousand, but every time they missed the target,

953
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: they lose two hundred and fifty dollars. So Phadra says

954
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: she's going to aim for John's name because he doesn't

955
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: need protection. At first, I'm like, why are you name me? Why? John?

956
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: And then I got it. She misses, and everyone keeps

957
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: missing and missing and missing until CT aims for Kate

958
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: and hits her. We're right between the eyeballs. Kate aims

959
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: for CT and missus Sandra and Chrey aimed for John

960
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: but he doesn't need protection, but they missed. John says

961
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: this is starting to feel a little personal. The players

962
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: repeatedly go for ct but end up losing two thousand

963
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: aiming at his name. Phadri changes the strategy around and

964
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: aiming for Trischelle instead. I don't think there was any

965
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: strategy in that. I think she just thought that Trischelle

966
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: was down at the bottom and they've had better luck

967
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: on the bottom row. But then it backfired in her

968
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: face because everybody thought it was like this big strategy.

969
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: Well, here's why I like this check just because really

970
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: there's a very few moments where there's actual actions in

971
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: the game. A lot of it is, oh, you're too quiet,

972
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: or you know you're a housewife or whatever, Like.

973
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: It's just all speculation.

974
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 3: This is like someone making a physical move that you

975
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 3: can use to either help a case or hurt your case,

976
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: or expose that you're a trader. And I think this

977
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: is the first time, my opinion, we see Phadra slip up,

978
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: because I think up until this point she's been like

979
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: ironclad nor and uh, you know, just it's just weird.

980
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 3: If everyone wants to do one thing, and you do

981
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: the opposite. That's enough in this game. And I think

982
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: this is, you know, the first time. But I like

983
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 3: this challenge because it puts people exposed and they have

984
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: to say, hey, I'm going after you for whatever reason.

985
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: Good, this is why I'm going after you. Totally dead

986
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: at Charret's face when I mean between the last two

987
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: episodes between having bugs you know, dumped on her and

988
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: her jumping around list dreaming that was funny, and now

989
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: her face when everybody starts going after her like why me, Yeah, well.

990
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: Ray is so chill, and then to see her like

991
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 2: scream like bloody murder. I'm I know.

992
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: She's very quiet, very very quiet. Peter thinks he'll be

993
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: put up for banishment tonight. John thinks Sandra and MJ

994
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: could be persuaded to vote with their group. Peter separates

995
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: Phaedra from her group, while while Trischelle convinces the clique

996
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: to vote for against her. Mischelle says the fact that

997
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: Phaedri shifted the bow to her name was a traitor behavior.

998
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: Trichelle argues they are having blind loyalty to Fedra. MJ

999
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: says that's not true and promises she'll keep an open mind.

1000
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: At the roundtable, Cet changes his mind, thinking Phaedra and

1001
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: Sandra purposely wanted Trichelle out. Do you think that's true?

1002
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: I think I don't know if if Pedra meant for

1003
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 3: that to happen, but that's what it gave the appearance of.

1004
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: And in this game and the appearances everything. You know,

1005
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what your intentions are. It's like, this

1006
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 3: is what happened, this is what people see it as,

1007
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: and you're done.

1008
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: I really don't think that she, like I said earlier,

1009
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a strategy. I think it

1010
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: was just like I think that one's going to be

1011
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: a little bit easier than going up. That's all I think.

1012
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: Because I could see on Page's face like because kind

1013
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: of goes back.

1014
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: To what you said about my game.

1015
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, when Kate says what's the plan, She's like, I

1016
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: don't have a plan, And like I think this said

1017
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: I would agree.

1018
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: With you, Like, you know that you would have a plan.

1019
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: You know that Peter would have a plan, You know

1020
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: that Cet would have a plan. As housewives are like, well,

1021
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: huh plan, My plan is to you know, win this money.

1022
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: That's it.

1023
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: That's my plan. So the players sit at the round table.

1024
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: John is first to talk. I love his speeches, saying

1025
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: he believes Phaeder is a trader because both Dan and

1026
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: parready named her as a trader and her approach is

1027
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: to avoid error. John says if he attempts tonight, his

1028
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: attempt at is unsuccessful, he would be he won't be

1029
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: here tomorrow. Fadri says this is not Parliament and he

1030
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: can bring it down a notch. She always knows what

1031
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 1: to say. Fadri says his ally, Peter, was the one

1032
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: working with the traders. Faedri tells everyone that Peter now

1033
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: wants to work with her, but he says that's not true.

1034
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: If Phedra back off, lady, I never said.

1035
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: That, and that's not true, right, that's completely false because

1036
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: I don't remember ever seeing that on the show.

1037
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: I didn't see it on the show. But he's Peter

1038
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: said it wasn't true. Phaeder puts it bluntly, this is

1039
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: not that. This is not the batcher, and she doesn't

1040
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: have to kiss his ass for a rose. Peter's angry.

1041
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: All he's done in this game is to fight to

1042
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: get the traders out. Peter says he denied Fadri's letter

1043
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: and she didn't like that. Now, when he said that,

1044
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: I'm surprised everyone didn't go, oh my god, that's right,

1045
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, no. But CT and Faeder have

1046
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: a special friendship, so I'm curious if Phaeder felt some

1047
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: type of way when CT voted for her.

1048
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it'll be interesting to see how that

1049
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 3: dynamic plays out.

1050
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: But I feel like this roundtable this was it.

1051
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: Pedro had a point with John because his round table

1052
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: speeches went on forever. They shortened them.

1053
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: I mean, not shortened them by a little We're talking

1054
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: like ten twelve minute da tribes down to like and.

1055
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: Like thirty seconds.

1056
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: I feel like and I feel like we knew that

1057
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 3: watching this because when they showed like Chara, like it

1058
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 3: looked like they were kind of like, all right, like

1059
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 3: I'm rolling my eyes, like enough.

1060
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: But you're going to take a little bit of John.

1061
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: But they probably got fifteen to twenty minutes of John

1062
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 2: on that one snippet.

1063
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's timed about four votes for Peter,

1064
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: four votes for Phaedra. The last vote is MJ's I

1065
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: had chills, chills, and I'm like, oh my god, oh

1066
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: my god, and I had no idea. It could have

1067
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: went either way.

1068
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting.

1069
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 3: It'll be interest to see how it plays out, because

1070
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: this vote will determine, you know, how the game ends.

1071
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: It's like they're either gonna get a trader or they're not.

1072
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: And the traders have a really nice looking path to

1073
00:47:58,719 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: the end.

1074
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: But if they don't, I don't get a trader. They

1075
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: know who the trader is after this.

1076
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: Why do you say that, Well, because.

1077
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: You know he's been saying Faedra, Phaedria, Phaedra. So I

1078
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: just think if Peter's gone, everybody's going to be like,

1079
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: he's a faithful Oh my god, He's right, it's Phaedra.

1080
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: And then she's gonna be gone.

1081
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: But let me, I said, let's say Peter is the

1082
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: one who's banished. Do you think the Bravo people will

1083
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 2: turn on Fadra because up and in this point there's

1084
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 2: been no glimpse of anyone.

1085
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.

1086
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 2: Do you think it'll be the first to turn or

1087
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: vote against I think MJ.

1088
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: I think MJ's onto it. I think share well, Yeah,

1089
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: I do, I do, because Peter had such compelling argument

1090
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 1: against her, and because he lost there his credibility by

1091
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: switching last minute last episode. I think that they're going

1092
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: to be like, oh my god, he was right. So

1093
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: I feel like both of them are doomed, even in

1094
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: the next two episodes.

1095
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see, but I just know

1096
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: that through my experience, like you can dodge like one

1097
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 3: bullet at a round table and survive your dodge too.

1098
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: But man, it's tough.

1099
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: Well, Charat had said to me, like I think on

1100
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: the on an interview or something we're doing press, like

1101
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: I know the real Pedra. I know what she's capable of,

1102
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: So she knows. She absolutely knows.

1103
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: I wish I wish she would have spoke up more

1104
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:24,959
Speaker 2: throughout the game.

1105
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: You know, she was pretty, she was quiet.

1106
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was the best part. She was super quiet.

1107
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: But I felt like she was very trustworthy, you know,

1108
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 3: like I didn't feel like she was like dropping misdirections

1109
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 3: or lies. I felt like when I talked to Charay

1110
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 3: like whatever was said and I felt like stayed with Chara.

1111
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that was it. Dan, I thank you so

1112
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: much for coming on. I mean, it took us quite

1113
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: a few months to reconnect, but I'm looking forward to

1114
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: seeing you. Are you too at the reunion now? I've

1115
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: got to ask you, are you are you dressing the part?

1116
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: Are you going to have some plaid suit on?

1117
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1118
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 3: You know what, I've taken like a note for you,

1119
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 3: like just spending time around you. I'm like, okay, it

1120
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 3: elevates my game. You know, I'm pretty casual in real life,

1121
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 3: but I know, hey, look Tamra's coming, She's going to

1122
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 3: be decked out.

1123
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: You're pretty, You're pretty sharp on the show, like your outfits.

1124
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: I remember walking out of the hotel our very first

1125
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: day and we were put in the same car, and

1126
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: I didn't know who you were, but you looked almost pretty,

1127
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: almost pretty like for a guy. You look pretty like

1128
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: you were so put together, not a hair out of place,

1129
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: skin look amazing, perfect suits. You were just suited up,

1130
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: And I'm like, is he a newscaster?

1131
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 3: Who is this guy camera? Like in my real life,

1132
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 3: I wear the same thing every day. This is like

1133
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 3: such a like out wear, like a hoodie. Yeah, it's

1134
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 3: like and that's why, like I really feel like and it.

1135
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: People will never know I really connected with you because

1136
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 3: I think I know you're not from the Midwest, but

1137
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 3: I felt like if you were dropped on in like

1138
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 3: the real house I was a Michigan from Michigan, people like, oh,

1139
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 3: yeah she belongs.

1140
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: Oh I could totally rock that.

1141
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1142
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 3: I mean just I just felt like we connected really well.

1143
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 3: But we also spent a lot of time together. I

1144
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 3: really outside of the game and everything. I really enjoyed

1145
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 3: getting to know you, even outside the game. I know

1146
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, it's part of this game. That wasn't

1147
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 3: It was just I really I felt it.

1148
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: Was very authentic. And that's why I was so mad,

1149
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: because I felt like, you know, if it was anybody else,

1150
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: I'd be like whatever, whatever, But it was you. I

1151
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: feel like we really connected, and I'm like, oh my god,

1152
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: I was duped.

1153
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: Well that's why I was like, why is she ghosted me?

1154
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: Like, you know, but did you not put two in

1155
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: two together? Did you not think like our conversation we

1156
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: had that night before where I'm like, will you like

1157
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: can we align? Well?

1158
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: I was fired up when we had that conversation. I'm like, okay, like.

1159
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: Now like we're gonna mess shit up.

1160
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a shot.

1161
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 3: And then when you know, everything went down the turn,

1162
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, like, this is not what I want.

1163
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: But did you ever stick up for me?

1164
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing.

1165
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 3: They're fighting, and I'm like, I got to get them

1166
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 3: to like get on the same page. And I'm just like,

1167
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 3: I that's one that's honestly, it's one of my big

1168
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: mistakes is letting them, you know, take you out, because

1169
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 3: I just felt like.

1170
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: That's all right. I was ready to go home.

1171
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: Walking away from this. Are you are you glad you

1172
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 3: did it? And what's you are like takeaway from at.

1173
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: The time, you know what? I wasn't glad I was

1174
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: doing it. I had hyped myself up so bad to

1175
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: do the show. I almost pulled out like ten times.

1176
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: Why I was nervous. I think most of all just

1177
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: being away from my family for so long. It's that

1178
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: to me was pretty much a deal breaker. And then

1179
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: I had people in my ear going this game is huge,

1180
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: this show is huge. People are going to see you

1181
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: on a different platform, They're going to see you in

1182
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: a different you know that, gonna see you arguing and

1183
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: yelling with housewives like this is good for your career

1184
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: on TV and all this stuff. And so I went,

1185
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: but I was super hesitant about going. And I think

1186
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: that I made myself sick. I really do. I made

1187
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: myself sick. Then when I got there, you know, I

1188
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: had to travel like my husband's always with me, like

1189
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: a travel It was like a twenty four hour travel

1190
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: day and getting through the London airport and all that,

1191
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, I don't know where

1192
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: I'm going. This place is huge. Where's my husband? Like,

1193
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I just psyched myself up.

1194
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: I got like a cold, but because I had run

1195
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: I think I was still run down. Yeah, just by

1196
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: being nervous, I got you know, I got something in

1197
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: the air. And then you know what really screwed me

1198
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: up was the antabotics that gave me really yeah, so

1199
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: that when I went on those antibotics, the medic gave

1200
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: it to me, and then another doctor said, I would

1201
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: have never put you on those antibotics. They put inflammation

1202
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: of my intestine. And then when I got home, I

1203
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: ended up in the hospital. So it was just a nightmare.

1204
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: But you know what, now that I know what it's

1205
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: all about, when I do it again, probably because that

1206
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't be so scared.

1207
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: I feel like you were like literally just on the

1208
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 2: other side I was.

1209
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: That's why I still pissed off.

1210
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, I feel good, your skill set, your personality,

1211
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: Like do you just get through that first like wave

1212
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: of just clearing people out. I think you would do

1213
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,479
Speaker 2: extremely well. I think you would probably be a really

1214
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: great trader too. But that's just.

1215
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: So my whole philosophy and trying to buddy up to

1216
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: you that night is because I had suspicion you or

1217
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: a trader, and I thought, well, if anything, he might

1218
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: recruit me if you know, people get dropped out, and

1219
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 1: that was my like, I wanted to be a trader

1220
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: so bad at that point. I'm like, he's going to

1221
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: recruit me. If I just be his eyes and ears

1222
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: and rat people out, he'll get rid of them. And

1223
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: then when some trader gets killed to he'll he'll pull

1224
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: me in.

1225
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing.

1226
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: It's like, you got to have friends in the game,

1227
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 3: and so like, to me, it's like that's definitely a

1228
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 3: conversation that I'm thinking about down the road, you know,

1229
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 3: cause I'm thinking, Okay, if X, Y and Z happens,

1230
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 3: it's you know, but you're someone I trusted, So like,

1231
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 3: that's to me, that's the game is who do you trust.

1232
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: And how do you bring them in the fold and

1233
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: find a.

1234
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: Way So It was so nice talking to you. It

1235
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: took me right back to the castle, your sweet self.

1236
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: But I can't wait to see you.

1237
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see you soon.

1238
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1239
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 2: My wife's coming too, and so you know she's excited.

1240
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 1: You go, you're going to obvious, So you have to travel.

1241
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: I have to drive up the day of. And then

1242
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: I was kind of hoping like afterwards we can all

1243
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: go out.

1244
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

1245
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: That'll be fun and my husband will come up.

1246
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: Oh we missed Yeah in New York. I'm like, what

1247
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: the heck, I'm there. I'm like, where's Tammer? Where I was?

1248
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: I was on the call list for the entire time.

1249
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: And then productions like, we can't lose you right now.

1250
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: It's too much is going on the show?

1251
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: They film you like doing.

1252
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: The That's what I was hoping.

1253
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: I was too much logistics.

1254
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you so much, John, and I will

1255
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: see you like in a week or so.

1256
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

1257
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 1: Okay, bye,