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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Nukleman. This is a production of

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Speaker 1: the bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, where

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Speaker 1: we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: of the actual bear Grease podcast. Presented by f h

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Speaker 1: that's designed to be as rugged as the place as

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Speaker 1: we explore. Welcome to the Bear Grease Render. If you're

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Speaker 1: watching this on YouTube, you would notice that we are

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Speaker 1: not in the Global Headquarters Dell.

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Speaker 2: If you came to Arkansas, you.

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Speaker 1: Would you would get to see the Global Headquarters slash

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Speaker 1: Meat Eater South Office.

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Speaker 3: So are most of your listeners from Arkansas?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: I wish they were. I wish every one of them was.

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Speaker 4: I was about to say, we can talk a little

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Speaker 4: slower if we need.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you if you uh, hey, we're We're ready

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Speaker 1: to take it. We take it all the time from Texas,

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Speaker 1: Texas and Arkansas.

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Speaker 4: Touch yep.

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Speaker 1: We talk more smack about Texas probably well, not as

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Speaker 1: much as a few other states. But so it's okay.

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Speaker 4: But the the that's the best thing y'all got going

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Speaker 4: is the fact that Texa Arcana combines us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're welcome.

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Speaker 2: Texa, Arcana.

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Speaker 1: Well we are in Winnebago, Texas at the Raider Radiated

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Speaker 1: Ranch podcast studio.

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Speaker 3: You've had a hard time saying that, why.

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Speaker 2: Is that Radiator Ranch? It's a cast studio.

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Speaker 1: A tongue twister for you, yeah, a little bit, a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but man, uh, I have been watching Dale Brisbee.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say before you were cool, but before

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Speaker 1: you're you were as cool.

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Speaker 4: As you are now.

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Speaker 1: Okay for real, Okay, uh years ago, like before Netflix,

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Speaker 1: I remember seeing this wigged.

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Speaker 3: Cowboy hatted like back in the red Box days.

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Speaker 1: The lasses wearing cowboy, and I remember just being like,

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Speaker 1: I like this guy. And so anyway, so I just

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Speaker 1: say that to say I've been I've been watching you

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Speaker 1: for a while, and then when your Netflix.

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Speaker 2: Series came out, I was really excited for you.

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Speaker 1: But tell me about I paused. I thought I thought

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Speaker 1: you were about to jump in there though.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was just gonna I was just gonna speculate

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Speaker 4: on why you liked it so much. Well you could.

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Speaker 3: It's called How to Be a Cowboy.

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Speaker 4: And so that gave you you were like, oh, finally

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Speaker 4: something I could study, Yes, learn how to be a

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Speaker 4: cowboy and from the world's greatest bull rider yep, and

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Speaker 4: the most humbled Dale Brisbee.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's right.

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Speaker 3: So anyhow, what were we gonna ask?

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Speaker 1: Well, so did you grow up in Texas?

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Speaker 4: Well? Dale, Yeah, I was born in Lubbock, lived in

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Speaker 4: Snyder for a minute, moved to Memphis, spent probably ten

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Speaker 4: here in Winnebago.

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Speaker 1: So okay, so everybody everybody knows you as Dale Brisbee,

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Speaker 1: which is who you are.

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Speaker 2: So who am I talking to right now?

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Speaker 4: Am I talking to Dale Brisbee? Dale Brisbee?

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Speaker 1: So you you actually went to school and in College Station?

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Speaker 3: I mean I lived there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I was spent some time on campus, did you did

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Speaker 4: you hanging out with some of the chicks, and then

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Speaker 4: the teachers would realize I'm not enrolled and that I

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Speaker 4: really just live in a college town in Rodeo. So

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Speaker 4: I got rid to go to college.

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Speaker 1: Did you go to college?

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Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time on that campus.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but you didn't.

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Speaker 4: You didn't graduate.

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Speaker 3: Was I enrolled?

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Speaker 4: Maybe not?

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Speaker 1: Okay, but I had a lot of good times, A

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Speaker 1: lot of good times.

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Speaker 2: Now, now this is a great slap to Texas.

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Speaker 4: What school is there, Texas A and M baby A

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Speaker 4: and M.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah it's Texas AM. Texas A and M in

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Speaker 1: the Southeast Conference now SEC SEC.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much to Johnny Football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that helped well. So how long have you lived

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Speaker 1: where you live now?

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Speaker 3: Ten years?

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Speaker 2: Ten years?

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Speaker 1: And you you have legitimate roots in rodeo, yes, like like,

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Speaker 1: give me, give me a little give me like a chronology,

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Speaker 1: and like what was it like growing up? What do

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Speaker 1: your parents do? Give me a little chronology of Dale Brisbee?

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Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, so my uh, my old man kind of

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Speaker 4: did all of it in rodeo. And he would ride bareback.

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Speaker 4: He was a bullfighter, pickup man. He rode bulls, he

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Speaker 4: a lot about it. He was just all things rodeo.

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Speaker 4: When he was fourteen, he showed up at a rodeo

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Speaker 4: he just loved he's he is the most passionate man

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Speaker 3: But regardless, I grew up.

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Speaker 4: With a dad that did all of it and he

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Speaker 4: did not see it coming. Just how good at bull

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Speaker 4: riding I would be and that is just the world's greatest.

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Speaker 4: And at nine years old, I actually invented riding bulls

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Speaker 4: with one hand, so for that they rode with two hands. Really,

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Speaker 4: and I just yeah, it was just a little too

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Speaker 1: You came by your love and passion for rodeo. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I mean like family, that's not correct.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Like I remember, he could drive the truck too,

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Speaker 4: it to me, that's when I really felt like I

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Speaker 4: was living the dream and yeah, I remember mn. I

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Speaker 4: of taking me back regardless, Yeah, watching him and so

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Speaker 4: I did dabble in multiple events, and I really enjoyed

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Speaker 4: pretty much anything on the roughstock end. To be honest,

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Speaker 4: specifically team roping. It's not that I regret not calf roping,

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Speaker 4: it would have made me at least a better cowboy,

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Speaker 4: because I have always appreciated the ranching side of cowboy

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Speaker 4: in and it does involve a rope, and so, like,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, there's just been times in my life

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Speaker 1: A russtock yes, russtock side.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So let me back up and explain to the

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Speaker 4: they go one at a time and they time them.

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Speaker 4: of how much you know the way the stock flow

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Speaker 4: at a rodeo, you have your rough stock, which is

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Speaker 4: bare back riding, sadur bronk riding, bull riding, and then

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Speaker 4: the other two jobs to do down there would be

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Speaker 3: The bullfighter's job is to distract the bull.

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Speaker 4: When the bull rider comes off, and then the pickup

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Speaker 4: Three of them are competition, two of them are hired,

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Speaker 4: and so that's those five things are what I enjoyed

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Speaker 4: my dad spent most of his time. And we talked

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Speaker 4: fundamentals are counterintuitive. Your intuition is going to tell you

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Speaker 4: Well, then it's like a sling shot because his next

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Speaker 2: So when he goes down, you go to the front.

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Speaker 4: So if you if your fear overrides your logic of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so in that moment, I'm not saying nobody has

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Speaker 4: you bucked off. So the fundamentals to be successful are counterintuitive. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: But if you can control your emotions and execute the fundamentals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how good is this? H is this new kid

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Speaker 4: Oh?

439
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 3: No, who won the world Jose did?

440
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.

441
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 4: I mean he's world cham Yeah, he's literally the best

442
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 4: right now. Yeah, he's the best right now.

443
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got the gold buckle on yeah.

444
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, not as big as your buckle th Odell?

445
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: Right, yes, thank you, Hey that argue, I did see it.

446
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is that the Boon and.

447
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,959
Speaker 1: Crockett official measure This is the twenty ninth recording period.

448
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 4: So does that mean that you had the you had

449
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 4: the biggest measured Boon and Crockett animal, or you were

450
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 4: actually the measurer like you had the tape.

451
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm the measure mmm.

452
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. So that's like in a rodeo, like you're not

453
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 4: the best bull rider, you're the best exactly.

454
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 3: It would be like we don't give buckles to the judges.

455
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: This is a good point, But the equation that I

456
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: was trying to bring to your buckle is that they

457
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: don't just give these buckles out.

458
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 3: To everybody, right, yeah, same as mine or off eBay.

459
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you.

460
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: Can't find them on craigslist.

461
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: And if you have any big deer antlers or anything

462
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: you like scored, I could do that for you.

463
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 2: But that's another story.

464
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 4: Deal.

465
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: No, I'm fascinated by uh. I'm fascinated by by people

466
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 1: that are the best in the world of anything, well,

467
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 1: like you and JB. I'm also fascinated by guys that

468
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: have to overcome like they're that what makes them good

469
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: at what they do is overcoming fear, which is not everything.

470
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: Like there's lots of stuff that you could be the

471
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: best in the world and not have to confront this

472
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: like very primitive fear of getting bucked and hurt by

473
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: an animal.

474
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 2: I think that's cool.

475
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 4: Uh.

476
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 1: The other thing, when you're talking about like having friends

477
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: getting hurt, like you know, lots of.

478
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: People that have got hurt.

479
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: Uh, and even people that have died, you know, rock

480
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: climbers are like that.

481
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: I'm not a rock climber. I know more about rodeo

482
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: than I do rock climbing.

483
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: And uh, but I was like, these these guys that

484
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: are free climbing and stuff, like they're all in arms

485
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: reach away in relationship to people that have have died,

486
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: and I feel like there's some similarities in this kind

487
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,239
Speaker 1: of stuff, you know.

488
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, I mean to be honest, the rock

489
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 4: climbing thing, I would be as confused about when the

490
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 4: outside are looking in. If I didn't have the context

491
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 4: I had with Rodeo, then I would just say, like, man,

492
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 4: that was the dumbest thing ever. But I know that

493
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 4: they would probably think the same thing about somebody.

494
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: I think there's similarities because I think it's people inside

495
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: of their the context of their world, going to the extremes.

496
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: I mean, like most people when they see a horse,

497
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: they want the gentle one, right, that's the goal of

498
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: training is to get on the gentle one. Rodeo picks

499
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: the extreme. Let's find the rankest horse, the rankest bull,

500
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: get on it and see if we can stay on

501
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: it and vibe. You know, it's the extreme. And uh yeah,

502
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 1: the rock climbing stuff is the same. It's like most

503
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: of the time when people see a sheer rock granite face,

504
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: they're like, we're going to go around that mountain. They're not,

505
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: They're not wanting to go over it. But yeah, there's

506
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: some there's some similarities there.

507
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, for sure, there's yeah, And there's all kinds

508
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 4: of of I mean even just football, you know, like

509
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 4: for a running back to he's got you know, when

510
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 4: he sees that seam, he's got to cut through it

511
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 4: regardless of who's coming from what direction.

512
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 3: With a wide receiver cutting across.

513
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 4: The middle of the field, you know, if running a

514
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 4: slant like he knows, he could get his clock cleaned.

515
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 4: But there's that might be in that scenario, the route

516
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,239
Speaker 4: for the quickest touchdown. And so there's all kinds of

517
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 4: professional athletes, typically in sports and that that you know,

518
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 4: have this impending doom in front of them, but they

519
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 4: move forward anyway. And and and it happens in life

520
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 4: as well, you know, like you said, with finances. But

521
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 4: it's interesting to me, like UFC fighters, like Cowboy, Yeah,

522
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 4: we brought that up last night.

523
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 3: Like Cowboy, I think that bull riding probably rock climb.

524
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: I don't know about rock climbing, but I know they were.

525
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: Brought rock climbing up one time on this podcast. Bull riding,

526
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: you get the wrong idea about me.

527
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: Bull riders and UFC or people that want to fight professionally,

528
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 4: I think are probably very similar in that there's a

529
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 4: lot of people that like to have ridden a bull.

530
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people that like the idea of

531
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 4: being called a bull rider. Yeah, and what people will

532
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 4: think of them when they get to tell that story

533
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 4: or show that picture or show that video.

534
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 3: Yes, and I think that's probably similar with fighting.

535
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people that would like to be

536
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 4: revered as this bad a fighter, whether it be professionally

537
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 4: or in the streets or whatever.

538
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 3: They want to be feared, you know.

539
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 4: And then you have these people like my buddy cowboy Seroni,

540
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 4: who I mean, don't get me wrong, he might enjoy

541
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 4: the fact that someone thinks he's a badass, but more importantly,

542
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 4: he likes to actually fight. It's less about telling the story,

543
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 4: which he does very little of, and it's more about

544
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 4: no the moment to start the fight starts. I mean,

545
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 4: he put it like if you walked into a gas

546
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: station and there's two people maybe robbing the place, like

547
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 4: it's literally a nightmare for anyone, But if he walked

548
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 4: into that, it's a dream come true for him, Like

549
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 4: if he now had like those are his words, he

550
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 4: gets to fight two people, and that to him is

551
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 4: the real fight. Is kind retired at forty eight professional

552
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 4: bouts in the UFC, but he wants to get to

553
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 4: a fifty, so he's coming back and he's gonna fight

554
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 4: more fights forty two now, I think forty two, but

555
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 4: My point is is, like I asked him, want to

556
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 4: some people that love it? He loves the actual fight. Yeah,

557
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 4: he's not just somebody who and I would I would

558
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 4: venture to guess if you're in the UFC, you probably

559
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: love the actual fight. They've probably made it that far.

560
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: Same thing with guys at the NFR. They love the

561
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 4: actual bull ride. They're not just trying to like get

562
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 4: a cool picture for the GRAM so that everyone will

563
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 4: think they're a bull rider.

564
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: But that's that's what that's somebody who makes it.

565
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 4: That's somebody like your man Alex, who probably made it

566
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 4: is a really good rock climber. It's like, you love

567
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 4: the actual thing. You know, no cameras, no audience, no crowd,

568
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 4: no music. You want to be it's you against the bull,

569
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 4: it's you against the Bronx.

570
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: Open the gate. I want to try to conquer this.

571
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 4: And that's that's Dale, and that's Dale, and that's you know, cowboy.

572
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 4: It's just like, no nobody's watching me, and you go

573
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 4: outside and we fight right now. You know.

574
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: Here's here's what I like about rodeo and hunting that

575
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: I think are similar in all the games of modern

576
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: time that men play for recreation And I'm using the

577
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: term recreation lightly because if you told me that I

578
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: was a recreational hunter, I would be like, I don't

579
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: think so, I don't.

580
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: I think it's deeper than that.

581
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: But let's just say of all the things that people do,

582
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: like rodeo, hunting, mma, whatever, football, sports, golf, Like if

583
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: all those things, I like that rodeo has a functionality

584
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: that's connected to something real.

585
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 3: Right, like ranching.

586
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's clear that rodeo came from

587
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: correct true to boys people around cattle that were we were.

588
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: That's cool because you really can't say that with football

589
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: or baseball, and certainly.

590
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: Not golf, Like why are we doing this? Well, exactly,

591
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: we just kind of came up with it.

592
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 4: You know golf do you I don't? Okay?

593
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: Well, and then but then hunting is the same way.

594
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: I mean, hunting is even.

595
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 4: You know, more primitive.

596
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: It's the reason we do function to it like hyper function.

597
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: I mean, like this is something that humans have done

598
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: since the beginning, and we're providing meat for our families, and.

599
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 4: So it's og way to eat. Absolutely before uber eats,

600
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 4: there was a bow and arrow.

601
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, or an adelel dart or a

602
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: spear something.

603
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, So I've always appreciated that about rodeo is

604
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: that you could you could consciously connect where it came from,

605
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: Like cowboys made up this sport.

606
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, to be able to rope, to be able to.

607
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: Ride a bronc, because you know, broncridin would have started

608
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: with people trying to break horses to ride, you know,

609
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's cool. I like to think

610
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: about the foundations of stuff and where it came from,

611
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I.

612
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: Mean that's I mean I kind of touched on it.

613
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 4: But like in all my time in a practice pin

614
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 4: with getting on bulls and broncs while they were practicing

615
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 4: team rope, and I wish I'd have even paid more

616
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: attention over there because it would have made me a

617
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 4: better cowboy on the ranch.

618
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: But anyway, do you think do you think that the

619
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: modern surge and popularity of Western culture.

620
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: Is because of me?

621
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 4: It is because of you? Yes?

622
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: Do you think Taylor Sheridan made Yellowstone because of you?

623
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 3: Because he was watching my videos? Absolutely?

624
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: I figured he did.

625
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: Are you talking about? I mean, I was in Yellowstone.

626
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 3: You don't even know that.

627
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 4: Do you?

628
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: Dang, are you serious?

629
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: Yes? Season five?

630
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 4: What you do?

631
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: I was ranching?

632
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: Did you have it like a talking part with Rip?

633
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: Did you really miss part?

634
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: But no, I didn't. I didn't have a talking part.

635
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: But where you are?

636
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: You are you?

637
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 3: I was in it?

638
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: Serious?

639
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: You never know what I'm telling truth to you?

640
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: I cannot tell.

641
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 4: Look at me, Look at me.

642
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm come about to tell you something. I've killed fourteen

643
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: boone crocket deer with my bow.

644
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 4: Well you gotta you can't tell.

645
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: You couldn't tell.

646
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: I have only killed thirteen.

647
00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: Mmm.

648
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: Why did any of my producers tell me that he

649
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: had been on Yellowstone?

650
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 4: No?

651
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: I actually heard a podcast, an old podcast with you

652
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: on it where somebody called it out and said you

653
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: should be on Yellowstone and then it happened.

654
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

655
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 4: So the Jimmy goes down to the sixes to ranch

656
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 4: and I was there.

657
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: My buddy True was the.

658
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: Wagon boss, and this is in the movie.

659
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: I was there.

660
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 4: Well, they we were actually working that day, and it's

661
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 4: not like we didn't know the cameras were going to

662
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 4: be there. But I'm just saying like we were actually

663
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 4: weaning that pasture of calves, and they didn't just fabricate

664
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 4: work it was. It was a real thing. And that's

665
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 4: one thing Taylor was angling for the with the entire

666
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: show was as much authenticity as possible while also maintaining

667
00:33:55,360 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 4: the storyline. But regardless, we're there working, and so the

668
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 4: film crew actually had no idea who I was. Taylor

669
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: didn't know I was gonna be there. I mean, he

670
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 4: knows that our day worked there sometimes and he owns

671
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: the ranch and he and I have met a few times.

672
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 4: But regardless, like the people filming, like, they didn't know

673
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 4: Dale from Adam.

674
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: So I was in it.

675
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 4: And then later I saw Taylor and he was like, man,

676
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 4: your fans loved that you were in Yellowstone and we

677
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: were supposed to he said. He was like, we need

678
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: to get you back and have give you a speaking part.

679
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 4: But then the show kind of wrapped up a few

680
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 4: seasons later and we just never made it happen. But no,

681
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of Taylor's and what they do

682
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 4: with the Sixes, and he you know, are you familiar

683
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 4: with the Sixes? No, So it's a big ranch here

684
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 4: in Texas. Okay, they talk about it in the show. Okay,

685
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 4: probably I would say the most well known ranch in

686
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 4: the country. It's somewhere between the Force and the King Ranch,

687
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 4: which you're probably familiar with the King.

688
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 3: They're they're hunting. They do a lot of hunting down there.

689
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 4: Uh, and they also you know, it's I think it's

690
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 4: the largest ranch at least in Texas, maybe the whole country.

691
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 4: But regardless, the four sixes is well, Taylor bought it

692
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 4: and that's why it's in the show a lot.

693
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: Okay, but they have they now sell beef straight to

694
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: its interesting Yellowstone beef. I mean four six is beef.

695
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: Four six is beef, which is well, do you do

696
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: you think that? But it was just which first the

697
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: craze in Western culture, and I mean, and I realized

698
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: it's like long been in America.

699
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: This is like an American thing.

700
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: But am I right and saying there's been like a

701
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: surge in the last decade appetite for Western I.

702
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 4: Think the interest has always been there in like what

703
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: sparked a nostalgia for you, like people the romance of

704
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 4: like being a cowboy. Yeah, that's I mean, there's there's

705
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 4: people that lived in the city watching Roy Rogers when

706
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 4: they were a kid that wanted to be a cowboy.

707
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 4: You know, like kids dressing up as cowboys for Halloween

708
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 4: has been happening since Halloween was invented, and so like

709
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 4: desire for people to be a cowboy has been there

710
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 4: a long time. Chrystal Duo has a song you just

711
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 4: can't see him from the road, and essentially what he's

712
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 4: saying is like, cowboys exist, you just can't see us

713
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 4: from the road when you're cutting across the country in

714
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: your car to the next city. Well, in my experience,

715
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: the Internet has now shown people what's out here, and

716
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 4: so whenever they were a production company came to me

717
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 4: about what kind of show we should make for Netflix.

718
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 3: I had been making videos for years at.

719
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 4: The time, and about twenty or thirty times a day

720
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: I would get a message that either said how do

721
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 4: I get started ranching?

722
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: Or how do I get started rodeoing?

723
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 4: And that's what my internship program was built on, those

724
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 4: people that want to learn to rodeo, because I can

725
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: help a guy get started riding bulls or bronks, and

726
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 4: they're able to work for my apparel company alongside that,

727
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 4: you know, while they're learning. Regardless, I get these dms

728
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 4: all the time, how do I get started ranching? Because

729
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 4: they don't know they're watching the Western movies. They're watching

730
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 4: all this stuff just before even before Yellowstone. They're interested

731
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 4: in it, but they don't know how to get started.

732
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 4: They live in you know, they work on a chicken

733
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 4: farm in Maryland. And anyways, so I told the production team.

734
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 4: I was like, well, let's call it how to be

735
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 4: a Cowboy? How to be a Cowboy, because like we'll

736
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 4: just teach people because that's the question I get all

737
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 4: the time. And so that's what our Netflix show was

738
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 4: based on. With that in mind, Like I would have

739
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 4: conversations with people because when I first started Rodeo and

740
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 4: everybody talking about, man, this is a dying sport. This

741
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 4: is like we got to save the you know, like

742
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 4: this they're a dying breed, and like I disagree completely. Yeah,

743
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 4: there is so much interest in our industry. Yeah, and

744
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 4: I see because the moment I got Instagram and Facebook

745
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 4: and people are able to message me, It's just like

746
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,479
Speaker 4: Rando's from all over the world are just like, man,

747
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 4: do you take interns from Switzerland? Can I come over

748
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 4: there from Europe? Can I whatever? Like it's just like

749
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 4: people South Africa, like all kinds of like there's those

750
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 4: two are Canadians right there, like all over the world

751
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 4: people are interested in this genre.

752
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: You've made it so accessible.

753
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 4: And I think that shows like Yellowstone do they help absolutely,

754
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 4: But there's a romance and a lure and just a

755
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 4: nostalgia to what we do out here that people can't deny.

756
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 4: Like there's just what we did today, Like you gathered

757
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 4: cows with us, then we buck some horses. Like people

758
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 4: don't get to do that. Yeah, Like that's not that's

759
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 4: not a normal thing that a person sees every day.

760
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: Like maybe they saw somebody walk a dog maybe, yeah,

761
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 4: on their drive to work. Yeah, And uh.

762
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: So I think that the future of our industry is growth.

763
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 2: So my buddy Steve Ranella, he lives in bos of Montana.

764
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 4: Never heard of her, and.

765
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: So he he it's like the cowboy it's like the

766
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: cowboy capital of you know, that part of the world.

767
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: And uh and this question revolves around people that really

768
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: aren't cowboys wanting to be cowboys and dressing and acting

769
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: like cowboys. So he he believes that if you wear

770
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: any type of Western booter, you've at least got to

771
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: be live a livestock adjacent lifestyle. And so he kind

772
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: of he kind of like, you know, like today. I

773
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: didn't wear a cowboy hat on purpose when I rode

774
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: with you, because it's like I didn't want to. I

775
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: didn't want to be a poser.

776
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: But somehow you still managed to appear as one.

777
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: Well exactly, But I guess I guess. What I'm saying

778
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: is people inside the cowboy industry love it when new

779
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: people come in.

780
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 4: Is that right for sure?

781
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 3: Yeah?

782
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: I mean when you see a guy walking down the road.

783
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 4: Had you warn a cowboy hat today, it would not

784
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 4: have made me man. Yeah, well I would like that. Now.

785
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 4: I am the expert on all things cowboy, and that's

786
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: why I've created a guide to whether you is or

787
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 4: you ain't one, and I call it you ain't no cowboy? Yeah,

788
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 4: And so like I am, I can't get very specific

789
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 4: with you know. You know, if you ride a mule,

790
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 4: you ain't no cowboy.

791
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: If you you know, oh dang, you were on mule

792
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 3: to day.

793
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, no, that was just you don't realize how

794
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: congruent we are on our doctrine. Like, I'm not a cowboy.

795
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm a mule skinner, okay, And that's the reason I

796
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: wear a I don't think I am either, That's right,

797
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: that's right. That's the reason I felt hat like Daniel

798
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: Boone did, like like God fear and men did.

799
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 4: But seriously though, yeah, I now there is like it

800
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 4: just depends on the context of a word. Like C. S.

801
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: Lewis talks about the word a gentleman.

802
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 4: Well, like when the word was first created, it meant that,

803
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't remember exactly, but it meant that

804
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 4: you were of a certain age and you you might

805
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 4: have owned property. And it was like a black and

806
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: white list of like this is what made you a gentleman.

807
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 4: But eventually the change language, it turned into a compliment

808
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 4: and they're like, man, he's a gentleman. Well, no, he

809
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 4: either is or he isn't. It's kind of like are

810
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 4: you from Texas or are you from Arkansas? It's like

811
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 4: you either are you aren't it's not. And it's like, man,

812
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 4: he's a Texan. You see, like how you can use

813
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 4: the word twice. It's like, are you from Texas or Arkansas? Okay,

814
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 4: he's the Texan, he's the Arkansawian or whatever y'all call yourselves.

815
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 3: But regardless, ar Kansas, ar Kansas.

816
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 4: It's even worse, we say, but Akron, Akron regardless, the

817
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 4: same thing has happened with the word cowboy, So like,

818
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 4: I gotcha, you see.

819
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, Like people mean something different probably than people.

820
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 4: Well, it just depends on what context you're using it.

821
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: Is he a cowboy? Well, I don't know. Is how

822
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 3: does he make his living?

823
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 4: Well, he's he's a CPA and he goes to well, okay,

824
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 4: for sake of conversation, if you're asking what his trade is, No,

825
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 4: he's not a cowboy. Yeah, but is it ok for

826
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 4: him to you know, wear a cowboy hat and boots

827
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 4: and go to the Fort Worth Stockyards on the weekend

828
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 4: to watch a rodeo? Absolutely? Yea. Is it okay for

829
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: him to want to be a cowboy? Absolutely? Does that

830
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 4: mean you.

831
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 3: Know, I just he can if he calls himself a cowboy.

832
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: It's not gonna you know, gotcha tells me this is

833
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: kind of like it just depends on.

834
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: How you use the words.

835
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 4: Like, I'm not offended if that same person who's a

836
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 4: CPA in Fort Worth wants to come out here and

837
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 4: learn to ride a horse, like that's absolutely great.

838
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 3: It just depends on in what context you're asking the question.

839
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: Like I think I'm hyper sensitive just based on my

840
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: upbringing of being being a phony like hyper sensitive. Yeah,

841
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: like to the point that I'll push the push it

842
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: the other way.

843
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to come.

844
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't and I mean I think they would go

845
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: right back to my dad, my upbringing of just trying

846
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: to be who you were, and.

847
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: I've got I've got friends in my head, in my

848
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 4: head that like are just top hands.

849
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 3: Okay, well are they more cowboy than me?

850
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 4: All right? Well, now we're using the word differently than

851
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 4: just by black and white definition, Yeah, because it's like

852
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 4: do you make your living with a horse and a

853
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 4: rope and cows? And then beyond that, like, okay, how

854
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 4: much of a cowboy are are?

855
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 3: Are they than this person?

856
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 4: All right? Well, now it's more of just like the

857
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 4: way the word gentleman has been turned around.

858
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: I really do need a good straw hat. I've got

859
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: a straw hat. It's old.

860
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 4: I need.

861
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 2: I know, it's junior time straw hat.

862
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 3: It's June in Texas to switch.

863
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: From felt to straw, but it's also it.

864
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 3: Was sixty seven degrees I had on a vest.

865
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 4: It's June fourth. That's crazy crazy for Texas.

866
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no doubt so do you do much hunting, dew.

867
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 3: I love to hunt. Yeah, I don't get to do

868
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 3: as much as I used to.

869
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 4: Always. I mean, like we just hunt pigs a lot

870
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 4: down here, Like since I was a kid. We probably

871
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 4: couldn't go to a party in high school on a weeknight,

872
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 4: school night, but we could stay out as late as

873
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 4: we want if we were hunting pigs. I don't know,

874
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 4: like we would just forget it was got light and

875
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,479
Speaker 4: just sorry, dad, I can't get in until one thirty.

876
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 4: It's like we're killing but we.

877
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: Got seven pigs or something like that, you know, I

878
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: don't know.

879
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 4: That was in a little bit of deer hunting growing up,

880
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 4: and then more as I got older. And now every

881
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 4: year I go on an archery l hunt. Okay, I

882
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 4: whish I gotta specify archery because if you don't shooting

883
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 4: elk with a bow, then you ain't no cowboy. Yeah.

884
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 4: And then I'll also go noodling with my ex girlfriend,

885
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 4: ex Hannah Buron. Yeah, we've worked it out and she

886
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 4: guides a noodle trip for me every year.

887
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Donnie and I.

888
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: Go right right, Okay, what's up. I'm gonna steer away

889
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: from that one.

890
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of drama.

891
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 4: Don't worry, it's implicated.

892
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: It's huge drama.

893
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see you where in that well, me and

894
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: her dad are still like muddy water best friends, and

895
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: so you know, don't throw the baby out with the

896
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: bath water, you know what I mean?

897
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 4: I hear you, Man, I actually don't know what that

898
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 4: saying means. So everybody says it. I don't understand it.

899
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 4: Understand well, I understand the baby got the bath last

900
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 4: and now the bath water's dirty, but I just don't

901
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 4: get the scenario of like how it connects to where

902
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 4: the anyway.

903
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: But we can move on.

904
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: We'll talk after noodling. I explain country.

905
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 4: Those are my two main trips. What's up?

906
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: What would be like a top shelf hunt? And let

907
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: me ask you this, do you think that you've had

908
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 1: have had enough exposure to hunting that you would really

909
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: be able to know exactly what you like to do? Uh?

910
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: It'd kind of be like me being exposed to rodeo

911
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: and saying, Clay, what would you like to do?

912
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 4: And I'd be like, man, I.

913
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: Guess I'd like the bull ride because that's just seen flashy,

914
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: like elk hunting is like the bull riding of the

915
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: hunting because there's nuance. There's like, for sure squirrel hunting

916
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: on mules. Man, it's like top shelf. I mean, I've

917
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: done a lot of cool stuff and there's some like

918
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: little bitty kind of little crevices in the hunting space.

919
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like fun Cowboy found ourselves out in Utah between

920
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 4: two sponsor events and we were just sitting around and

921
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 4: these guys wanted to go caut and I wound up

922
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 4: in a pick up with some guys coyte hunting at

923
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: two in the morning, and I'd rather eat glass, Like

924
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 4: I was so like I wanted to go to like

925
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: I don't care about those coyotes and they're falling and

926
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: I'm like I want to take me a little melotonin

927
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 4: and go to sleep right now. And so there's certain

928
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 4: trips where like I guess I do know like yes

929
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 4: and no, I don't want to do this or that

930
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 4: kind of how I feel about like helicopter hog hunts,

931
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 4: Like yeah, depending on who the pilot is, Like there's

932
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 4: a it's just like I don't know, like if they've

933
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 4: like fought in war, you're all in. Like I was like,

934
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 4: all right, I'm I get a helicopter with you, but

935
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 4: the steaks aren't. It's just like to do what kill

936
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 4: some hogs? Like, I don't know, let's ride around in

937
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 4: a canyon plug. But there's also like I probably I

938
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 4: don't know that i'd go on a rifle elk hunt.

939
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 4: I don't know that I'd really like to get a

940
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 4: super nice, uh white tail one day. Yeah, that'd be cool. Ye,

941
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 4: moose hunts intrigued me, that'd be cool. I would do

942
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 4: a I would do a white tail or a moose

943
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 4: with a rifle. Okay, that doesn't bust me.

944
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 1: Listen, I potentially have access to some incredible moose hunting,

945
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 1: not every year, about one year out of every maybe five.

946
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 3: We keep our word around, right Garrett.

947
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: Maybe, so, dude, you need to come with me to

948
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: Alaska on a ridge hunt.

949
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 4: Oh in Alaska, I was thinking more like a canned hunt. Well,

950
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 4: do you have like some high fence moose somewhere?

951
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: There's high fence moose in Texas?

952
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: Okay? Good?

953
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 4: Where are those at all? Over Texas? But oh, I

954
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 4: bet you're people with hate that I just said that.

955
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: Oh that's like, that's like, what would that be equivalent

956
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: to in the rodeo world?

957
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: A high fence it's it's there somewhere.

958
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: But I don't it doesn't bother me.

959
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: We could talk about high fence. We could do that.

960
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm joking.

961
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 4: I would if I was gonna hunt a moose, I

962
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 4: would like to go to I'd rather do it.

963
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't have to do it with me.

964
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 3: But sidebar, I don't care if it's a high fence.

965
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 4: Like once you get over so many acres, hunting is

966
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 4: hunting this summer and then somebody's just trying to like

967
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 4: control some genetics. More power to them personally, but.

968
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 2: It's just spoken like a true text.

969
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 3: Del Brisbee hot take like a true Texan.

970
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: What about Barry? Have you ever thought about bear?

971
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 4: Maybe? Maybe?

972
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, with a knife.

973
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: Whatever man man, Yeah, well cool, that's cool. What uh

974
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: you are? I probably didn't really introduce you that well

975
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: at the beginning of this gonna start over.

976
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, just x that.

977
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 2: Let's just do the skin all.

978
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 3: Right, one more time from the top people.

979
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: Nodll You're. What I've always appreciated about you, I said

980
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: that I've been watching you for a long time, is.

981
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 2: That you're really good at being.

982
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: Authentic inside of your space, like you're you're you're you're

983
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: real cowboy, but you are.

984
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 4: You're an incredible.

985
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: Marketer, which that that could be like a slap in

986
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: the face, Like that's like saying you're a good used

987
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: car salesman.

988
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 2: That's not what I'm saying.

989
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,959
Speaker 4: Now, you're really good.

990
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: This is coming around to be something nice to say

991
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: where we're here we go is that you're incredible.

992
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 3: About the high fence comment.

993
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 4: You're incredible about.

994
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: You're good at these catchphrases, all these phrases and things

995
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: that you say.

996
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: It's just put all the shirt balls out of my mouth,

997
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 4: like I just can't help it.

998
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so give me, give us a tour, because they're

999
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: gonna be some people here that you know, have not

1000
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: been exposed. Probably very few, but I would say the

1001
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: most common one that get is old son. Now, did

1002
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: you make that?

1003
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 4: No? You didn't this I did? No, you didn't.

1004
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: Hey, it's well just pressing you. Sometimes stuff needs scrutiny.

1005
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: I believe you. I just wondered if you actually did Oh,

1006
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: old son, old son? Now, I mean, did you not

1007
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: hear your grandpa say that or something? Oh daddy said

1008
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: it to your dad? Daddy, I'm talking about me. No,

1009
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: I'm daddy, Okay, I'm referring myself in the third person.

1010
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: I love it. That was the first.

1011
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I knew that.

1012
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: That was so good. You don't believe me, No, No,

1013
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: I do, I truly do. Sometimes I tell people this.

1014
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: I tell my kids this, I tell my wife this.

1015
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes my lovely one you call her old son. No,

1016
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: I tell them sometimes the truth deserves a high level

1017
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: of scrutiny. So that's why I was just like, you

1018
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: didn't make that up, and you act you know, and

1019
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: I was like, no, you didn't know, you didn't know,

1020
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: you didn't. And then when you said you did, I

1021
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: could see through those glasses and I knew you can

1022
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: tell me the truth.

1023
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 4: Yeahs like when you lean your chair back and you

1024
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 4: don't know you're right to the point where you think

1025
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 4: it might be gonna fall over, but it doesn't. Yeah,

1026
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 4: that's me I got you. Is what he's saying a

1027
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 4: joke or is he being serious? Yeah? That's where I

1028
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 4: like to live. Yeah, I like for you to live. Well.

1029
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: No, probably the first time I heard you say old son,

1030
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: I started saying it like to people like get caught on.

1031
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 3: Like a sea syn desist hasn't showed up at your door.

1032
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 4: It's on its way.

1033
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think it's a compliment that

1034
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,919
Speaker 1: like seven years ago, I.

1035
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: Was saying old son, you know, occasionally.

1036
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 3: Was not surprised.

1037
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 4: Compliment.

1038
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, so old son. What what would be

1039
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: like the ranking order of Dell Brisbee saying.

1040
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 3: Yep, after that, I mean, like rodeo time, it's rodeo time.

1041
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's rodeo time, rodeo time. Down the road, then

1042
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 4: you ain't no cowboy, okay, just ranching, just like to

1043
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 4: moderate ranching, heavy ranching. Those are just the different levels

1044
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 4: kind of like the the how we were talking about

1045
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 4: Cowboy yep, you know we kind of you know, a

1046
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: little emphasis on the ranching. Yep.

1047
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are some of the Well there's more.

1048
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 4: Riding bulls and.

1049
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: Punching chi bools, right, that's it. Yep, that's what I've

1050
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: already ridden my bull today. So watch out. And then

1051
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: you say keep it ninety, keeping it ninety, keeping it ninety, yep,

1052
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: when would you say keeping it ninety?

1053
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 4: He's a fan. I've forgotten about some of the things.

1054
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 4: I mean, just that's what that's what that's what I do.

1055
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 4: I just keep it ninety.

1056
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean, so like, let's Let's say me and you're

1057
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: riding down the road, something happened, give me that hypothetical.

1058
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 4: Okay, just like, yeah, how you being Dale?

1059
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: Keeping it nine, keeping it ninety, and I would know

1060
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: what would I know about you from you saying that

1061
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 1: You'd be like, I'd be like, dang, Dale's been busy,

1062
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: you know that.

1063
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dale's been busy being the best.

1064
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

1065
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 2: Okay, so keeping it ninety.

1066
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: You ain't no cow boy old son, just bulls punching fools.

1067
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 3: Light to moderate ranching, heavy ranching, Rodeo Time.

1068
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 4: Rodeo Time.

1069
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: What's some of the other ones? Guys, there's some people

1070
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: out here.

1071
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: Your yeah, your mom's favorite bull rider that on a

1072
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: T shirt.

1073
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 4: Your mom's favorite bull rider. Yeah, I mean we've got

1074
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 4: all kinds. Yeah, we could walk through out here. I

1075
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 4: could show the audience my parel line. Yeah mm hmmm.

1076
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that'd be great.

1077
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would yeah, yeah, for great.

1078
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 4: For this next twenty minutes, we're gonna walk around with

1079
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 4: these cameras. I'm gonna show you some of my things

1080
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 4: that are available to you on Rodeo time dot com.

1081
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: That's right, plug, that's right, that's right. Well, that's cool.

1082
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: You got any big trips planned, Like, can you talk

1083
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 1: about any of this stuff that you got coming up?

1084
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 4: Like with uh going to California Friday for a movie.

1085
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna to play an announcer at a

1086
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 4: NASCAR event for real? For real? And what movie?

1087
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 2: Can you talk about it?

1088
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 4: I don't remember. I could talk about it if I remembered.

1089
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 4: But I know that you could talk about it. You

1090
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 4: just don't remember, correct, I know? I know I fly

1091
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 4: out charge. It's it's literally all been set up through

1092
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 4: the d MS. I don't even have the guy's phone number.

1093
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 4: I know his name is Ben something, and I'm gonna

1094
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 4: fly to Sacramento.

1095
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: Somebody was just like, hey, Dale, will you come here

1096
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: at this time? Give me your credit card number? You

1097
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 1: put you in a movie.

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00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 3: No, he doesn't need my credit card.

1099
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: But he asked you for it. You should not give

1100
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: it to him. Okay, this could be a scam.

1101
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it is. So you're gonna be

1102
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,479
Speaker 3: in a movie. He's got the blue check mark.

1103
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, okay, yeah, And then I'll come back here.

1104
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 4: I'll be here for one day. We'll probably film some

1105
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 4: here on Monday. Then Tuesday morning I'll go to Cowboys.

1106
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 4: Sarrony's will do some jiu jitsu with some veterans, and

1107
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 4: then we will Discovery Channel is doing some like a

1108
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 4: show for shooting some guns and stuff.

1109
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is good. Yeah, they're coming back around so yeah, I.

1110
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: New Adminiss some big stuff coming up.

1111
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 4: And then I'll do my trip to go see Hannah

1112
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 4: and we'll do some Nodland.

1113
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 2: Okay, that's in June.

1114
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, because this you know, around July they'll those catfish

1115
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 4: lay eggs and then come into the boxes to protect them. Yeah,

1116
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 4: and so July is kind of slow. I got a

1117
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 4: can Am deal in August. But we're filming for my

1118
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 4: YouTube channel all the time. All the time. You know,

1119
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 4: I really don't like taking these trips. I like, do

1120
00:56:55,480 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 4: you travel a lot too much? But I sometimes like

1121
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 4: opportunities come up, you know, like a movie and Discovery Channel.

1122
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 3: You kind of just gotta go. But I like doing

1123
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 3: what we did today.

1124
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so just ranching Vale.

1125
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 3: Well the ranching side of it. But I like making

1126
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 3: the video.

1127
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 4: I like making Rodeo Time episodes podcasts here in Winnebago.

1128
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 4: That's what I like.

1129
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's cool, that's cool. Yeah, hunts this fall

1130
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: you're going in September elk.

1131
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 4: Hunting to Bear Mountain and Kremlin where that is tright

1132
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 4: south of Steamboat, like stones throw from Steamboat, rabbit ears

1133
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 4: pass and.

1134
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 2: I mean, don't tell me where you're going hunting.

1135
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean really it's a guided hunt.

1136
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, so like that's another thing that people throw rocks

1137
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 4: at where it's just like I don't care, like I don't.

1138
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 3: I am the world's greatest bull rider. I don't have

1139
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 3: time to.

1140
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 4: I mean, like, I've been on two elk hunts, so yes,

1141
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna let somebody guide me on a hunt.

1142
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: You know what I just found it a it's not

1143
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: a high. I found an equivalent back. I found an

1144
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: equivalent to what you just said. Because yeah, in the

1145
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: hunting industry, like if I now, I've gone on plenty

1146
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: of guided hunts, like a lot of guided hunts. But

1147
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: if that's like all I did, it would be like, oh, well,

1148
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: Clay successful because he goes on guided hunts.

1149
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: And when you didn't want to realize, people like threw

1150
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: rocks at that.

1151
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: Listen, I've got a great connection back to your world

1152
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: that you're gonna you don't love, So people would throw

1153
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: rocks at that because you know, like on the inside,

1154
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: like in the inside of hunting, to be able to

1155
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: do it yourself, you know, means something, and it means

1156
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: you're authentic and you you don't need a guide and

1157
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,919
Speaker 1: all this stuff, which I get it, and I would

1158
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: prefer not to have a guide, and most of the

1159
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: time I don't.

1160
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 2: When Clay Nukeomb puts.

1161
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: A ferrier video on his Instagram and I am a

1162
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't know nothing about trimming my mule feet. Yeah,

1163
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: I've been doing it for nine years. I had one

1164
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: ferrier that came to my house and showed me how

1165
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: to do it, and I realized that I was going

1166
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: to have to hire this guy every six to eight

1167
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: weeks to come and put shoes on my mules.

1168
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 4: You only trim your mules feet every sixty eight weeks.

1169
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 3: That's over a.

1170
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: Year to eight, six to eight, six to eight, okay,

1171
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: well just say that, okay six to eight weeks. And

1172
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: I was like, this isn't gonna work for Clay. So

1173
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: I started doing it myself. And my mule's never gone

1174
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: lame and I can trim mule feed. I put little

1175
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: videos up in Man, there's two groups of people in

1176
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: life that are, they're wonderful people.

1177
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 4: Instagram commenters and Facebook Will Graham is positive and Facebook

1178
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 4: will grill your ass.

1179
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Well ferriers and beekeepers are the

1180
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: most opinionated people in the world.

1181
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 2: But that connects back to your hunting thing.

1182
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: But you don't care about what people say about being

1183
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: guided what I say to somebody that gives me an

1184
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: incredible amount of input about how I'm doing it wrong

1185
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: about being a ferrier? Is there like, hey, Clay, you're

1186
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: using the wrong hoof tool. You know that you should

1187
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: do this, you should do this, And I just don't

1188
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: care correct like it just what I do kind of

1189
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: works for me. I realize it's unconventional. I realize it's

1190
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: probably not the best, but my brain only has enough

1191
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: space to be really good at so many things. Trim

1192
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: and mule feet is one that I'm like, Man, if

1193
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: I can just get by.

1194
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 4: All, probably one thousand percent, that's it. Like I have

1195
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 4: no desire to be so much. I am not Cameron Haynes.

1196
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 4: I have ran with the man and he's who he

1197
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 4: is the reason I l hunt one hundred percent. I

1198
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 4: was a fan of his and then I went up there.

1199
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 4: He gifted me a bow and that's what got me started.

1200
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 4: And then my relationship with Mountainnops a sponsor. They they

1201
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 4: gifted me a hunt and so if it wasn't for

1202
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 4: Cam and Mountainnops, I wouldn't be going on that. Now.

1203
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 4: I love it and I appreciate it. But I am

1204
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 4: a cowboy and a rodeo cowboy. That's what I'm most

1205
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 4: passionate about. And I would and I've heard people throw

1206
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 4: rocks at guys like myself, who yes, I qualify, I

1207
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 4: would technically be an influencer, and.

1208
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 3: Yes I'm gonna go bow hunting.

1209
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 4: And now I take a picture with a bull that

1210
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 4: I got on a guided hunt, and they'd throw rocks

1211
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 4: at it. But like, rewind the tape. I just said

1212
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 4: I was okay with something with a CPA out of

1213
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 4: Fort Worth coming here to ride horses and put on

1214
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 4: a cowboy hat, like it's good for the industry. You

1215
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 4: know who cares, Like just get off of everybody's back,

1216
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 4: and it's like, let somebody just experience it. It's kind

1217
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 4: of how I feel about the High Fends conversation too.

1218
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 4: But regardless, whatever my point is, I just think that,

1219
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 4: like what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

1220
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 3: And I didn't even realize like that was the thing, but.

1221
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 4: I get the mystique of it, and does is that

1222
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 4: CPA as good a hand as my best friend Dusty Berson,

1223
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 4: who manages the Four Sixes.

1224
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 3: No, he's not.

1225
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 4: And the only disrespect would probably come in, or not

1226
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 4: even disrespect, but just the only annoyance I would have

1227
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 4: is if the CPA acted like he was a better

1228
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 4: cowboy then my friends exactly.

1229
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 3: But you know, then it's just like, oh, you're oblivious.

1230
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 3: Same thing with me. I'm not going to act like bet.

1231
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: And you never seen nobody, nobody ever said that.

1232
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 3: But then I would be the deal brisbee.

1233
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 2: That's the exact same thing when.

1234
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 4: That would be the joke, and that's why you should

1235
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 4: laugh at it. But that's not I mean, anybody who

1236
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 4: would act I don't know. It's just pretty should be

1237
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 4: common sense to me.

1238
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's why when I dabble into the equine world,

1239
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: which I'm not an expert, that's I get quite a

1240
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: bit of fire from it. And there's a lot of

1241
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: people who are like, oh, that's so cool, man, but uh,

1242
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: it's that's all just it's.

1243
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 4: People's pride man, and they're passionate about this one thing.

1244
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 4: And yeah there it's just like, hey, you know, you

1245
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 4: stay in your I don't know, just be happy for people. Yeah,

1246
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 4: be happy for people.

1247
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Some people are just like just

1248
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: completely bitter and poor souls.

1249
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 4: Whatever.

1250
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's people's pride. Are you a believer?

1251
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1252
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 4: We haven't really talked about faith, but I've gotten that

1253
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 4: sense about you.

1254
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1255
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 4: Like but like a like a Christian believer in the

1256
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 4: Christian like the Bible.

1257
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 2: Christ I actually don't.

1258
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever said this on on my

1259
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: podcast before, but I'm actually the I've been the associate

1260
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: elder at our church for twenty years.

1261
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 4: What Baptists.

1262
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 2: No, we're a non denominational church.

1263
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: Oh okay, But but Bible believing, okay, Christian like.

1264
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 3: The Holy Bible, the one with sixty six books in it.

1265
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 3: That one okay, cool with me too, that one gotcha?

1266
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1267
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 2: Man, So it's a massive part of my life.

1268
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 4: All right. Good. Yeah. We almost talked about it last

1269
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 4: night and I was like, oh, I think he might

1270
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 4: be My Christian radar was going off.

1271
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 3: Anyways, it was going off regardless.

1272
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 4: Good. I think I don't know how that connects to

1273
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 4: the comments people make on social media, but.

1274
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: Some of them are good, well meaning, Like I just

1275
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,919
Speaker 1: put up a fair deal just a few days ago.

1276
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: I was just trimming my mules hoofs and just put

1277
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: it up and somebody wrote me a very detailed comment

1278
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,959
Speaker 1: about everything, and he was nice. I mean, the guy

1279
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: genuinely was trying to help me. He was like, he

1280
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: was kind of like, hey, Clay, you're kind of looking

1281
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: like a goober. Let me help you not be a goober.

1282
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: And it was meaningful what he said, but I kind

1283
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: of I don't. I was just kind of like, well,

1284
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: I kind of just do what I do and it

1285
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: works for me. I'm kind of okay with it.

1286
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's it's on the other hand too,

1287
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 3: It's just.

1288
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 4: Like at this point twenty twenty five, we can't really

1289
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 4: put out con tent and just be completely surprised. Yeah,

1290
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 4: someone does that, you know what I mean, somebody's gonna

1291
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 4: comment like that. So uh yeah, it's two sides to

1292
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 4: the coin, you know. Okay.

1293
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: I feel like, well I got you here in front

1294
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: of the table. We've got to dissect a little bit

1295
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: of about what what happened. Today with me on the

1296
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: meal while you were picking up. Oh yeah, I want

1297
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: to bury the lead a little bit, if you know

1298
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Wink the wink. Let's talk about the

1299
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: situation that led to me having a little bit of

1300
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: a limp today.

1301
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 3: Um yeah, so you were we were picking up and tell.

1302
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 2: People what that means. I don't think people know.

1303
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 4: So bucking horse rider rides his bron or bucks off. Regardless,

1304
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 4: two pick up men in the arena that are on

1305
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 4: gentle horses need to ride in alongside this bucking horse

1306
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 4: and either help that rider get off of the horse

1307
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 4: or we need to take the flank off of him,

1308
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 4: because that's what he's kicking at.

1309
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 3: Typically, it's not making.

1310
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: Him bucks got like a belt or belt around it exactly.

1311
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 4: It doesn't go around there. It doesn't go around there

1312
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 4: jelly beans. All the horses today were either mares or geldings.

1313
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 4: None of them even have jelly beans, So it'd have

1314
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 4: been impossible for us to tide around there like people

1315
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 4: think in the boor riding. It's just not the case.

1316
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 4: Regardless that flank gives them something to kick at, It

1317
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 4: just it makes the way in which they buck more consistent,

1318
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 4: which means that it's going to be safer for them

1319
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,479
Speaker 4: and the rider if they but they're animals that want

1320
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 4: to buck. We can't make them buck. They have to

1321
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 4: want to. But it doesn't cause pain regardless whatever. That's

1322
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 4: what that's the flank strap. Yeah, so the responsibility of

1323
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 4: the pickup man is to help the rider get off

1324
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 4: safely and then take that flank off in the arena.

1325
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 3: So you for for you being on a mule number one,

1326
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 3: we don't know how she's gonna take it.

1327
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 4: Number two. You know, you've never done this before, so

1328
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 4: horse and rider. Mule and rider are both pretty inexperienced.

1329
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 4: So I wasn't going to ask you to help the

1330
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 4: rider get off. I didn't know how she would take

1331
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 4: an other, you know, riding double jumping horse on her.

1332
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 4: My goal was to help you get the flank off.

1333
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 4: And so the last horse, which is kind of the

1334
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 4: more sweetheart pup of the group, I wanted you to

1335
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 4: come in alongside, and I was like, the only thing

1336
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 4: is you can't end up behind them. They'll kick you.

1337
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 4: And you said, this horse, his name is the Baptist.

1338
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 4: The Baptist his given name was hang him High from

1339
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 4: Pete Carr. He went to the NFR back in like

1340
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 4: two thousand and eight, long time ago. He's an old horse.

1341
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 3: And regardless he uh.

1342
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 4: You said kick me in the head, and I said no,

1343
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 4: and I put my hand in the middle of your

1344
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 4: thigh and I put anywhere from here down is probably

1345
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 4: because this horse doesn't kick that high. And so I

1346
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 4: got the horse, grabbed a hold of him, and he's

1347
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 4: kind of turning in a circle, and we come riders.

1348
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,440
Speaker 4: The rider's been the rider.

1349
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 3: The riders off the horse.

1350
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 4: I was essentially wanting you to come in alongside that

1351
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,520
Speaker 4: horse and trip that flank.

1352
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: So lean off of my mule and grab the latch

1353
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,719
Speaker 1: of the belt basically yeah, and flip this belt off.

1354
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 4: And uh, it was a little too much, too fast,

1355
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 4: And I thought you might have been able to heed

1356
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 4: my instruction a little better than you did. And anyhow,

1357
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 4: this horse kicked you. The bucking horse kicked you.

1358
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: Did you see it?

1359
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 4: I heard it, yeah, And I felt like I thought

1360
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 4: it was just mainly kicked kind of your saddle and

1361
01:08:55,280 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 4: your saddle blanket. Yeah, didn't kick very hard for compared

1362
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 4: to how hard they're able to kick, but got the

1363
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 4: meaty part of your calf, thankfully.

1364
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 3: And not your shin bone. Yeah, yeah, and you doesn't

1365
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 3: mean does it hurt?

1366
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: Now, I took I took a couple of the leaves.

1367
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: I really think that helped. Yeah, but it does it

1368
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: does hurt? Yeah, but no, it was It was so

1369
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: funny because I was I was gonna. I had been

1370
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: following you guys around on my mule, Betty Bay and

1371
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: and kind of just just being there while two of

1372
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: y'all were picking up you know, and so I had

1373
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: done that, I guess three times already. And so Betty

1374
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 1: was pretty used to that. Okay, there's gonna be a

1375
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: bucking horse come out of that shoot act crazy, We're

1376
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: going to go towards it. And she she did great

1377
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: at that. But when you told me to get the

1378
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: flank strap off of that horse, that meant you got

1379
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: to get in super close to this horse that's been bucking,

1380
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: that's been wild, but you told me don't get behind it.

1381
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: But what is difficult about it is that he was

1382
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: turning you. It's not like the horse has stopped and

1383
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 1: you got to ride into the side of it. I

1384
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,520
Speaker 1: mean you're spinning circles.

1385
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was kind of he was kind of turning

1386
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 3: in a circle.

1387
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: You're spinning circles. And so I come up close and I'm,

1388
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'm probably four feet but right from the rump

1389
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: of the mule and I and you know, I'm in

1390
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: a tricky situation, and so do I and I spur

1391
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 1: old Betty.

1392
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1393
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm like, dang, we got to get up.

1394
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 1: And she she proceeded to move at my queue. But

1395
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: that but the angle, I was like, it was like

1396
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 1: a race car going along the outer track and and

1397
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: the guy on the inner lane is turning and I

1398
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 1: couldn't get in front of him quick enough and I mean,

1399
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: just what just she just she just let out a

1400
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: sideways kick, probably about half throttle. But it I mean,

1401
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: if you've never been kicked by a horse or mule,

1402
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 1: it's a unique feeling.

1403
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like, you know.

1404
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I immediately and she didn't, you know, hit

1405
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: me just right in the side of the calf and

1406
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 1: h For about a split second, I thought I'm gonna

1407
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 1: be bad, hurt, Like you know, you just think and

1408
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: and there's that adrenaline that floods you and you think

1409
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm shielding.

1410
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 2: Really what's about? You know, That's what was going through

1411
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 2: my mind.

1412
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: I was like, crap, I'm gonna be But it ended

1413
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: up just being a big old Yeah.

1414
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 4: You never know, like sometimes like you can get kicked

1415
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 4: like that and you think it's the end of the world.

1416
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 4: For sure, it's broke, this, that and the other, and

1417
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 4: then it ends up being the next morning you can't

1418
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 4: even feel it. And then sometimes the opposite is true,

1419
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 4: like right, you don't even realize how bad hurt it is,

1420
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 4: and two days later you're like, something ain't right. Yeah,

1421
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 4: but that's it's crazy in the arena, like it's it's

1422
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 4: one or the other.

1423
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I truly think it's it's okay, but it

1424
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 1: was my fault.

1425
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 2: You told me exactly what not to do and I

1426
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 2: did that.

1427
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean it's your first time. It's hard

1428
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 4: that mules kind of looking out for herself. She doesn't,

1429
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 4: you know, she's a little nervous to it. Yeah, it's

1430
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 4: her first time. I mean with work, I'm sure she

1431
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 4: would get good at it and realized that like she

1432
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 4: could do it, and.

1433
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but well it was it was it was so

1434
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 2: much fun.

1435
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 3: Gathering the cows and working the gate.

1436
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 4: You did great.

1437
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that and that that was a lot of fun. Yeah,

1438
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun.

1439
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it went well, it went for sure.

1440
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 4: Man, I don't know if if I don't know.

1441
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: If we can if we can shift this this far

1442
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 1: of a turn. Uh and get kind of serious. If

1443
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: you're willing to talk to me about it.

1444
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 3: We'll see about your dad. Oh yeah, no, I don't

1445
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 3: mind talking about him.

1446
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we kind of started talking about it earlier.

1447
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 4: He definitely isn't going to object.

1448
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I somebody.

1449
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 4: Because he's dead.

1450
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: I guess we are comfortable with this, all right, roll

1451
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: the tap boys. I was comfortable with talking about his dad.

1452
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 3: Yeah. What's he gonna do about it?

1453
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 1: I don't know, no, no, no, I have been a

1454
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: partaker of Dell Brisbee content, but it was just recently

1455
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: that I heard the story of your dad. Yes, sir

1456
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 1: passing away in the arena? Yeah, and uh will you

1457
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: will you tell me that story?

1458
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 4: Yeah? So we were uh Helotis every year is the

1459
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 4: first weekend in May, and uh, you usually switched to

1460
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 4: a straw about that time, and we would always stop

1461
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 4: in at Catalina Hatters and Brian and get a new

1462
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 4: straw hat and on our way to he Lotis and

1463
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 4: I don't.

1464
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of telling the story now, I don't.

1465
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to plug this random hat store.

1466
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 4: But they we then we'd go to Lotus and just

1467
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 4: every every spring it is just and either riding or

1468
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 4: working there, one of the two. Like I've ridden all

1469
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 4: three events there. I fought bulls there and my dad

1470
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 4: would always pick up there.

1471
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 3: And so i'd go with him and we'd always go.

1472
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 4: And my aunt and uncle lived in Bulverdi, not far

1473
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 4: and but I had that year I was fighting bulls

1474
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 4: for Sammy Andrews and.

1475
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 3: So I had like ten of his rodeos that year.

1476
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 4: Well, one of them was an Amy rodeo in Paris,

1477
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 4: and so Wednesday before both of our rodeos got started

1478
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 4: on Thursday, and he was talking about just picking up

1479
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 4: and like how you know it doesn't really pay a

1480
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 4: lot and and you know he could probably make more,

1481
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:42,759
Speaker 4: he'd be money ahead if he stayed at the house.

1482
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 4: And we were just back and forth, and he, uh,

1483
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 4: he made a comment something like staying at that and

1484
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 4: I said, well, I'd never ask you to quit. And

1485
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 4: I shook his hand and I can I can feel

1486
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 4: his hand in my hand right now.

1487
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 3: You know, better than I can see his face.

1488
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 4: And I was driving a little bitty car and he

1489
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 4: was loading up his you know pick up horses. That

1490
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 4: one right there was one of them, and it was

1491
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 4: it's out at the house still and yeah, so it

1492
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 4: kind of helped said goodbye to each other, each going

1493
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 4: to our rodeos. And I shook his.

1494
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 3: Hand and I drove down the road. I was going

1495
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 3: to stop and see my brother.

1496
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 4: He was building a saddle at a saddle maker's house,

1497
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 4: like fifteen miles away. But when I left there, it

1498
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 4: was the hardest I'd ever cried up until that point.

1499
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 4: When I left there, I just knew it was me

1500
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 4: the last time I saw my dad.

1501
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 2: I heard you say that, how do you How did

1502
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 2: you know?

1503
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 4: I don't know, to be honest, like I think God,

1504
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 4: Like just years before, I just felt like I'm going

1505
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 4: to lose my dad early. But it was never as

1506
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 4: strong as it was on May one of twenty thirteen.

1507
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 4: And I thank God for that, because the year leading

1508
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 4: up to it, I would record him sometimes like I

1509
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 4: would just I took notes when he talked about cows,

1510
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 4: like I just I soaked up every moment I could.

1511
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 4: He had a really genuine I believed I was going

1512
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 4: to lose my dad early, and I acted on it,

1513
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 4: and it's share that with him. No, I'm sure he

1514
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 4: saw me. He definitely recognized me acting on it. Yeah,

1515
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 4: But I'd always been close to my dad anyway. I

1516
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,600
Speaker 4: was never one of a son to just say that,

1517
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 4: I mean, like to think that his parent didn't know anything.

1518
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 3: My dad knew he was. He was a brilliant man,

1519
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 3: and I treated him like that.

1520
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: And that's my advice to young people is to just

1521
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: even if they maybe don't know that.

1522
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 4: I mean, there's just no point in treating him like that.

1523
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I wanted to be around him.

1524
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 1: I wanted to be It's it's interesting you talking about

1525
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 1: the relationship with your father, because I mean a lot

1526
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 1: of people don't.

1527
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 4: Have great relationships with them.

1528
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 1: Either there's a massive conflict or there's there's an absence

1529
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,560
Speaker 1: just to kind of an absence of relationship, and the

1530
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, the spectrum is all the way in between,

1531
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 1: you know. And it's really interesting to me to hear

1532
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: you say that you you suspected this, because I mean,

1533
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 1: I think God does that kind of stuff for us

1534
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: all the time, if we're paying attention.

1535
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 3: I think so too.

1536
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 4: I've tried to replicate it with all types of relationships

1537
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 4: I have. There's it's crazy, like I I genuinely often

1538
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 4: treat it's not every day all the time, but like

1539
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 4: it's like family members and like some certain people, it's

1540
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 4: just like I will talk to them as if it

1541
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 4: is going to be the last conversation I have, you know,

1542
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 4: and eventually it will be.

1543
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 1: And that's real to you because.

1544
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 4: Of because it haven't. And I don't know why, but

1545
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 4: I'm thankful for it though that God did.

1546
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 3: But so I don't know. I just that's the hardest.

1547
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 3: I crying And.

1548
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 4: What were you?

1549
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: What were I can't leave the spot? What were you

1550
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: thinking about when you cried that day him dying?

1551
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1552
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 2: Did you think it was gonna happen that day?

1553
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 4: I didn't know?

1554
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 1: You just it just it just like overwhelmed me.

1555
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 4: I had I had shook my dad's hand and felt

1556
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 4: that and maybe even I can't remember a specific instance,

1557
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 4: but cried before like I had thought I had kind

1558
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 4: of had. That was the strongest it was ever it

1559
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 4: had ever been, undeniably like I would remember crying this hard. Yeah,

1560
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 4: because I got to that spot where my brother was

1561
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 4: and I had to sit in the car because I

1562
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 4: didn't want to be embarrassed because my face was just

1563
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 4: beat red. Wow. Wow, it was just that over.

1564
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 1: What did let me ask you this? What did what

1565
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 1: did you do with that? With that feeling? I mean,

1566
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: did you did you pray?

1567
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 4: Did you?

1568
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: Like?

1569
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 4: Looking back, I wished I had gotten the pick up

1570
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,759
Speaker 4: with him and gone to the rodeo and told Sammy,

1571
01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 4: I can't make it to Paris. You know, there's no

1572
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 4: part of me that would like no show a gig

1573
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 4: where I told somebody i'd be there. Bullfighter, Yeah yeah,

1574
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 4: But I mean today when I in the in the

1575
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 4: instances where I've gotten close to feeling that I will

1576
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 4: cancel a trip, and I have like you know that,

1577
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 4: like since there's been times where like I'll change, I

1578
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 4: don't know, like it's I don't know, like I'm going

1579
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 4: to change the future. Whatever. It's weird. I know it's

1580
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 4: not it's not normal. I'm not trying to be whatever.

1581
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 4: I do know some of this stuff I haven't ever

1582
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 4: even said out loud, But regardless, I know what I

1583
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 4: felt that day, and damned if. Twenty four hours later,

1584
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 4: I'm standing in the arena at Paris, Texas, putting a

1585
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 4: neck rope on a horse. And somebody asked me about

1586
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 4: Jacobs Crawley, who's one of my best friends. He's a

1587
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 4: bron rider and he was in Helotis with my dad.

1588
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 4: Uh Like, we'd been roommates in college. We would practice together,

1589
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 4: went to some rodeos together. And so this judge in Paris,

1590
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 4: Texas is asking me like.

1591
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 3: How's the how's jacobsen Stertling doing. I was like, well,

1592
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,799
Speaker 3: this and that, and I had my phone in my pocket.

1593
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 4: I got face paint on my baggies because I'm gonna

1594
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 4: fight this rodeo.

1595
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:03,839
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, there's the redhead.

1596
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 4: Now let's see what he's you know, got, you know,

1597
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 4: because I knew that guy's horses, so I thought maybe

1598
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 4: he was calling to ask got a horse. And he

1599
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 4: was like, dude, your dad is on the ground. And

1600
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 4: so they had just started their rodeo, the baar back riding,

1601
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 4: and he's the pickup man and he picks this guy

1602
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 4: up and then just like goes down with him. Apparently wow. Yeah.

1603
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 3: And so but he had his hat pulled down, you know,

1604
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 3: like this, and.

1605
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 4: Uh he he so he's he's wearing it and it

1606
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 4: hits the ground and anyways, I have the hat and

1607
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 4: it's got a mud stain on it. So when we

1608
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 4: recreated that picture, same horse, same saddle, same hat, that's

1609
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 4: what that's anyway, That's that's when Drew painted that for me.

1610
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 4: But yeah, so yeah, he called me and and so

1611
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 4: like I just look over at Sammy and I said,

1612
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 4: I gotta go, and I walk out the Auto eight

1613
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 4: and drive down to San Antonio.

1614
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 2: How far was that?

1615
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 3: Probably five hours? Six hours made y'all.

1616
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 2: Were long ways apart? Yeah, I mean, and it was a.

1617
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 4: Heart attack, correct, Yeah, yeah, Doc says he was dead

1618
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 4: before he hit the ground, but you know, they work

1619
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 4: on him and uh, Cindy Motcomber rides in the ambulance

1620
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 4: with him to the hospital. But then, I don't know why.

1621
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 4: My dad had said he wanted to. He's like, man,

1622
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm supposed to do something great, and

1623
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 4: uh anyway, uh so he said that like a couple

1624
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 4: of weeks before, and he had said it one other

1625
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 4: time and I was just like, yeah, I don't I

1626
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 4: don't know what it is. And he was like, I

1627
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 4: don't know what it is either. I don't know the

1628
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 4: fuck I'm supposed to do something.

1629
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 1: He said that to you.

1630
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, just like like casually, like he wasn't trying to

1631
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 4: be anything.

1632
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 3: He was just like, I don't know because he was

1633
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 3: managing this ranch.

1634
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 4: Nol And Gas Company owned it, and it was like

1635
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 4: the easiest job he had ever had. Rewind seven years later,

1636
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 4: like seven years earlier, my mom had left. He my

1637
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 4: mom had left, and he just was like, anybody is

1638
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 4: just like gonna move on, yeah, Texas, Like if you

1639
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 4: get if you don't show up sign the divorce papers,

1640
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 4: you're still divorced.

1641
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 3: Well like he didn't sign them anyways.

1642
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 4: Whatever. Two years goes by and he's just like what

1643
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 4: God brought together, Let no man separate, and he just

1644
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 4: like sits and he fasts and he prays. And I

1645
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 4: just watched this man have faith that his wife is

1646
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 4: going to come back when there's just no wipe. Why

1647
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 4: would she come back? Like nobody ever, his parents, everybody,

1648
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 4: it's like, you got to move on, you know.

1649
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 3: His kids didn't tell him that, but he doesn't. And

1650
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 3: two years doesn't seem like a long time.

1651
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 4: But when it's a year and eleven months in and

1652
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 4: you don't know it's going to be two years, it

1653
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 4: feels like a long ass time. You know, well, yeah,

1654
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 4: dang if she didn't come back, and you know they

1655
01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 4: always come back, turns out, but most of the time, wow.

1656
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:04,560
Speaker 4: And he was just there waiting and uh, that's honorable.

1657
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 4: So the last seven years of his life is the

1658
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 4: best seven years of his marriage. He's got this awesome

1659
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 4: job managing this ranch, this oil and gas company owns

1660
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 4: and they don't even care about the ranch. They show

1661
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 4: up once a month, and he's just he had had

1662
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 4: MS and so he had this which it was it

1663
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 4: went into remission. And so these seven years, his son's

1664
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 4: working for him like we buck horses once a week

1665
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 4: on the It's just it was heaven for seven years.

1666
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 4: And he was starting to get a little comfortable. But

1667
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 4: he was like, I got her. I feel like I'm

1668
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 4: meant to accomplish something great. And that was ringing in

1669
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 4: my head on this drive to San Antonio, and I'm

1670
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 4: just like in denial that he died. I was like, no,

1671
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 4: this is going to be some story where like they

1672
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 4: revive him at the hospital, you know, so they're trying

1673
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 4: to they tell you that he had a heart attack. No,

1674
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 4: they told me I had a heart attack. And then

1675
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 4: like on the drive, my aunt calls me and she's like, yeah,

1676
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,679
Speaker 4: he and I was like, no, this is there's something

1677
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 4: because he said even though the day before, U's the

1678
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 4: hardest I'd ever cried, you know what I'm saying, like,

1679
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 4: I've just got this. I knew it was gonna happen,

1680
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 4: but I didn't believe it happened.

1681
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 1: Ye And.

1682
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 4: Well, anyways, he did actually die, turns out, and so

1683
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 4: I was just kind of left, like I knew it

1684
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 4: was gonna happen, but like, what was that feeling where

1685
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 4: he said he was supposed to come for something great?

1686
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 4: And I think looking back now it's been you know,

1687
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 4: eleven years, twelve years, twelve years and a month that

1688
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 4: he's died. I run into guys that knew him like

1689
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 4: before I was born. I run into guys that he taught,

1690
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 4: you know, how to ride or whatever, and it's just

1691
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 4: like this legacy that he left behind. He had already

1692
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 4: done the great thing there was just now God blessed

1693
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 4: him with this death. His exit at fifty five as

1694
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 4: a you know, rodeo cowboy, and everybody's like, well, he

1695
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 4: died doing what he loved, and that's true, you know,

1696
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 4: but it's almost like he had he lived this life,

1697
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 4: and I'm not trying to make something better than it was.

1698
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to misremember something. I just think he

1699
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 3: was a great man.

1700
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, and God put this like he's like, all right,

1701
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take you before you mess it up. And

1702
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 4: the impact that it's had, I think there were a

1703
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 4: lot of people didn't really realize how great of a

1704
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 4: man he was.

1705
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:33,879
Speaker 3: It was simple.

1706
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we were talking about Zeke Thurston earlier.

1707
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 4: It's just like he's not super flashy whatever, but you

1708
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 4: look up at the end of the year and he's

1709
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 4: won the world. Like where did he come from? Like, oh,

1710
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 4: he just rides great every time. Yeah, And that's kind

1711
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 4: of like my dad was just like he just did

1712
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 4: the right thing, you know.

1713
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 1: And it was like Tiger Wood says, same boring strokes

1714
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 1: every day. And he raised his family. He never he

1715
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 1: didn't drink. He was a man of God.

1716
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 4: Times came like he just leaned on God and his

1717
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 4: faith and he brought his family back together. And and

1718
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 4: then at fifty five he died. And it was this

1719
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 4: cherry on top that I don't know, it was hearing

1720
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 4: people and he had used the word butterfly effect before

1721
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 4: you know, the ripple effect, and his ripple effect after

1722
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 4: he died was just crazy and it just keeps going.

1723
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 4: And so the great thing is that the legacy that

1724
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 4: kind of the Lord used after he died. Yeah, and.

1725
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I don't know, that's kind of.

1726
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 4: And it. But you're part of that.

1727
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 1: You're you're you're a part of that great thing that

1728
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 1: he left.

1729
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I say that in all seriousness.

1730
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: Well, it's like, what what you I mean that that

1731
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 1: that is the essence and the beauty of botherhood is

1732
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: that you get to you get to pass something on

1733
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: to your children, and I mean in such a tangible

1734
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 1: and real way.

1735
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 2: He passed so much to you.

1736
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: And I mean the rodeo stuff and riding bulls and

1737
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 1: the pure passion that you have for it that he

1738
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: had I deeply respect. But what I deeply respect more

1739
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 1: about you that I've seen confirmed with my own eyes

1740
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: since i've I've only been here twenty four hours but

1741
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 1: been around you a little bit. The fact that you're

1742
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 1: in the midst of a of a pretty corrosive environment

1743
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: at times. I know, the rodeo world can be pretty corrosive.

1744
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 1: And you don't drink, you don't you're like, you're very

1745
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 1: family orient oriented.

1746
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 4: Like who you are is.

1747
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 1: That's what I'm most impressed with about you, and I

1748
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: know that's directly connected to him. I mean that with

1749
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: all seriousness. I said this, and again, I want I

1750
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 1: want you to connect this to your dad, because it's

1751
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 1: not many people probably have the same pendulum. And I

1752
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,879
Speaker 1: realized your father died, so it gave you this ability

1753
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 1: to scrutinize and evaluate, probably differently than those of us

1754
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 1: that have living fathers. I think there's something about a

1755
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 1: dad dying that makes you really scrutinize the relationship. But uh,

1756
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 1: but to end on a compliment to Dale, you, I

1757
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 1: knew that you were a legitimate, solid human by the

1758
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 1: way that I have witnessed you, even in your content,

1759
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 1: which is comedy generally, by the way that your interns

1760
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 1: treated and respected you, and the way I saw you

1761
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 1: treat and respect them.

1762
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 2: I was like, I think that's a good guy. I

1763
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 2: think he's got a good value system.

1764
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,759
Speaker 1: And and you're probably I mean behind the shades, behind

1765
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 1: the cowboy hat and the wig, ridiculous wig, you're you're

1766
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 1: you're like a solid human.

1767
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 2: That's my assessment.

1768
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 4: I appreciate that it does mean a lot, you know,

1769
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 4: anything good to me, I think the Lord instilled through

1770
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 4: my dad. You know, we got a pretty common saying

1771
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 4: around here is don't meet your heroes, you.

1772
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 1: Know, because yeah, so you know, I think I think

1773
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things about me that are you know,

1774
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 1: you'd be underwhelmed with.

1775
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 4: But I do. I do appreciate you, my hero. Now,

1776
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 4: I don't know you said it with your kind of

1777
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 4: we're hitting around man, but uh, but no, I think

1778
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 4: that I've been blessed with the great team here. You know,

1779
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 4: I was blessed with Like I said, I I'm really

1780
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 4: not trying to just like beef up.

1781
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 3: I would have said all this when he was alive.

1782
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 1: And that's that's the thing that I just I I

1783
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 1: was a fan of the man, you.

1784
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:53,640
Speaker 3: Know, and when he passed, I had zero regrets.

1785
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 4: Like there's one or two comments where he and I

1786
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 4: got because we worked together, and there's like one or

1787
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 4: two times I can think of where we got mad

1788
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:04,759
Speaker 4: at each other where I probably said like something minor

1789
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 4: out of line. But I was such a fan of

1790
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 4: his and I wanted more time with him, you know,

1791
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 4: all the time, And so I had zero regrets when

1792
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 4: he passed, and they took him to the hospital, took

1793
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 4: him to the mortuary, and then we went and picked

1794
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 4: him up. My brother and I and nobody else ever

1795
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 4: took possession of him. It was just like a lonesome

1796
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 4: dove thing. We just wanted to be the one. And

1797
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 4: so we drove him to the funeral home. We drove

1798
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 4: him to the church. Then we drove him and we

1799
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 4: buried him. We lowered him, We threw the dirt end

1800
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 4: and uh, but we had the funeral. We did the

1801
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 4: grave side here, funerals in love it grap side here.

1802
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 4: And so it was a couple a day or two

1803
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 4: later and then I get home and I'm sorting stuff out,

1804
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 4: And it was like eight days after my dad died

1805
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 4: that I realized, dang, it hasn't even crossed my mind

1806
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 4: where he might be right now. It was as sure

1807
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:08,640
Speaker 4: to me as gravity, Like I ain't got to acknowledge

1808
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 4: that when I knocked this off, it's gonna fall, Like

1809
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 4: you just know that you don't have to. Oh, gravity

1810
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 4: is what I think of, you know, Like there was

1811
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,879
Speaker 4: no It was as sure as I am of gravity.

1812
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:22,640
Speaker 4: That's where like I just knew that was a fundamental

1813
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 4: truth for me, and that was maybe the biggest assurance

1814
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 4: I had about moving forward in life without him, was

1815
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 4: that he left me with this faith, you know, that

1816
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 4: I was able to take with me, and that was

1817
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 4: maybe one of the more grateful things I was. I

1818
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 4: was I was most grateful for with my dad.

1819
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,639
Speaker 1: Man, thanks for sharing that. Yeah, yeah, you bet for real,

1820
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 1: super super interesting.

1821
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 3: Long story.

1822
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 4: It's weird. I don't know.

1823
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:56,759
Speaker 3: I've told it like, it's not weird, but it's just different.

1824
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 4: I've told it maybe five times and it's just like,

1825
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 4: depending on where I start, it just hits me different. Yeah.

1826
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's awesome.

1827
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 4: Man.

1828
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 1: Well, hey, thank you so much for having us to

1829
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 1: the ranch. Thank you for for for hosting me today.

1830
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:14,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1831
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 1: And uh, at some point, at some point on the

1832
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 1: on the Meat Eat your web YouTube channel, you're gonna

1833
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 1: be able to see me and old Dale.

1834
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 3: Out ranching ranching and then Clay getting kicked.

1835
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 1: You'll get to watch it.

1836
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 4: We got it filmed.

1837
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a good thing.

1838
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 1: If you get kicked by a horse and nobody's there

1839
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 1: to film it, I don't think it's the coolest.

1840
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 3: And these days it helping happened. Yeah.

1841
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, So anyway, thank you Dale, and uh anything else

1842
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to say, Keep the wild places wild because that's.

1843
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 4: Where the Bears live.

1844
01:32:50,320 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 1: Owned the next one to the next one, old son