Speaker 1: Emily Hampshire is best known as Stevie Bud in the
Speaker 1: hit comedy Ship's Creek. In addition to that, she boasts
Speaker 1: a long running career of film, television, video games, and awards.
Speaker 1: She's the author of the new comic book graphic novel
Speaker 1: Amelia Airwood, Basic Witch, and stars in the upcoming movie
Speaker 1: The End of Sex. And She's my new best friend
Speaker 1: and this is my favorite guest I've ever had. Emily
Speaker 1: joins me to share the details of her career and
Speaker 1: her personal life ups and downs with a person who
Speaker 1: appears almost as hard to crack as her most famous character.
Speaker 1: This is just me with Emily Hampshire. So welcome. Thanks
Speaker 1: is your hash? Yeah, it's very short, It's it's not
Speaker 1: that new anymore. But I'm still getting used to it.
Speaker 1: I mean when I first did it, my phone didn't
Speaker 1: recognize me. And yeah, do you like it? You're happy?
Speaker 1: I do look beautiful? Thank you. I am in a
Speaker 1: love hate relationship with it, like I feel like, I
Speaker 1: like it feels more me except have you ever had
Speaker 1: short hair? Yes? And it's harder than long hair, which
Speaker 1: is like a weird annoying which nobody tells you. No
Speaker 1: it's more annoying because you like the right product and
Speaker 1: things turn and then they look Yeah I do know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I never even owned a brush when I had long hair,
Speaker 1: and now this is like I have to have product.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm I'm done with I'm not somebody who
Speaker 1: wants to do my hair ever, so I'm done with it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There's a vibe about it, though, like there's a confidence
Speaker 1: to it. So I'm sure you felt different when you
Speaker 1: got it, you know what I mean. There's just a
Speaker 1: vibe about like I'm free, I'm fresh, I'm not weighed down.
Speaker 1: It's nice. Yeah, when somebody does my hair, yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel free and fresh. Yeah, but who care? What are we?
Speaker 1: I mean ninety percent of the time my hair's up
Speaker 1: in this Yeah, well that's what. Yeah, oh great, you
Speaker 1: can't do that. No. First of all, I read a
Speaker 1: lot about you, and I am surprised by so many
Speaker 1: things about you. So I like that, and I can't
Speaker 1: get into that, so that we'll get into that. I'm okay.
Speaker 1: But obviously you know I found you on Ship's Creek
Speaker 1: and I was giving my daughter cutting her nails during
Speaker 1: the pandemic. It's so funny. She was young enough that
Speaker 1: I was cutting her nails. Now she's twelve, and um,
Speaker 1: she didn't, you know. I always introduced her new shows
Speaker 1: that she's reluctant to watch, or she walks in and
Speaker 1: I'm watching it and she's like intrigued. She would doing
Speaker 1: her manicure and Ship's Creek was on, so she was
Speaker 1: forced to watch. It was like the fifth episode of
Speaker 1: the first season, and she got hooked. And it was
Speaker 1: our pandemic pleasure And the only thing it sucked was
Speaker 1: that it was like too junk foody. It went too fast,
Speaker 1: like we were just eating bags of it. We weren't
Speaker 1: enjoying like you were enjoying it, but like we wished
Speaker 1: we savored it. We wished it was like thirty years
Speaker 1: ago and we could watch one episode a week with
Speaker 1: a commercial in betweens because it was like it went
Speaker 1: too fast. So she's still Oh, I always catch her
Speaker 1: always watching it. It's like one of those things that
Speaker 1: she's never not watching. Like I was good with it.
Speaker 1: I watched the whole thing and I was done, like
Speaker 1: I did it was she's never not watching it, so
Speaker 1: I can't really didn't tell you. Yeah, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's so so many people tell us that they watch
Speaker 1: it over and over again, Like I don't watch anything
Speaker 1: over and over again, but but it's so funny that
Speaker 1: you're like, she was forced to watch it. I feel
Speaker 1: that way about Like I think the show was amazing,
Speaker 1: but I do think there was something about it that
Speaker 1: people were forced to watch it and because nobody, Like,
Speaker 1: we'd got six seasons of this show that no one
Speaker 1: was watching until it went on Netflix. It got a
Speaker 1: bit popular, but um, really it became popular when everyone
Speaker 1: was in quarantine. So oh, I didn't I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: That's interesting too. Oh wow. And I saw Daniel Levy
Speaker 1: recently on an interview with someone, and he said that
Speaker 1: he would only do something else or some other iteration
Speaker 1: or some union or some movie if there was a
Speaker 1: good enough idea that would move him to do it.
Speaker 1: Did you do you see that interview? I didn't see
Speaker 1: that interview, but I know that of him. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I have here's my pitch before we get into you
Speaker 1: my pitches, because I literally I asked my publicist for
Speaker 1: his publicist information. I think it's forty two West and
Speaker 1: his agent, and I thought she's gonna be on. I'll
Speaker 1: just tell her my pitch is the family. So the
Speaker 1: family's now like you know, and successful, they came into money.
Speaker 1: They're like sort of back. They had to come back, right,
Speaker 1: So they are approached to do a reality show with
Speaker 1: their family and everyone around them. That's a really good pitch.
Speaker 1: That's a pitch scripted, but like you could have a
Speaker 1: little curb your enthusiasm in it where there's some like reality.
Speaker 1: So it's like a little meta like it's a scripted
Speaker 1: reality show. Their pitch to do a reality show, but
Speaker 1: it's a scripted show, but you could have some reality
Speaker 1: within the scripted show. That what's crazy about that is
Speaker 1: you've just pitched the pitch that I just did form
Speaker 1: my comic book. There's a reality show within the book,
Speaker 1: and I'm pitching it to be a series, and I
Speaker 1: want it to be like a live action series with
Speaker 1: a reality show as like the Kinder Surprise inside. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: So imagine them on a reality show though you're you
Speaker 1: and it's always who are your friends around you? It's
Speaker 1: like all the people would have to be in it naturally,
Speaker 1: because that's what a reality show is. It means like
Speaker 1: they always want to know who's your yoga teach? Or
Speaker 1: who's your there, Like it's all the characters around you.
Speaker 1: So it's like just a next iteration. That's my pitch.
Speaker 1: You can pitch my pitch to whoever you know, but
Speaker 1: that's my pitch. I think that's a really good idea.
Speaker 1: Like that's the best idea I think anybody's head. Wow,
Speaker 1: all right, Well, so tell it's to Eugene and Daniel
Speaker 1: and just say I was going to get in touch
Speaker 1: with their people, but you were coming. Oh if you
Speaker 1: talk to them, like I assume you're all like living
Speaker 1: together on a motel. Yeah, yeah, no we are. I
Speaker 1: mean the only thing about why, you know, and Dan
Speaker 1: and Eugene wanted to end the show because that's that
Speaker 1: was the story they wanted to tell them there was
Speaker 1: they didn't want to go on with it and it'd
Speaker 1: be shitty, um right. But I think like the thing
Speaker 1: that we keep being like we're going to do something
Speaker 1: is together is because we like each other. Like it
Speaker 1: does feel like family. We miss each other and everybody's
Speaker 1: gotten really busy since Shit's creep, which is great, but
Speaker 1: like it's so hard to not have those like four
Speaker 1: months where we know we're going to see each other, right,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, I can't believe, but this is what
Speaker 1: we're doing with you, Ornevie. I'm gonna stop after this comment.
Speaker 1: Like just you know, there's always like the awkward the
Speaker 1: fot like thet Eugene leaving would be awkward on TV,
Speaker 1: like he wouldn't be able to land it. Like some
Speaker 1: people are weird when the cameras come on. They're like
Speaker 1: performative or like Scott Distick like and like just not everybody.
Speaker 1: Not everybody's good at it. So it'd be really funny
Speaker 1: to see like who's good at it? Who sucks at it?
Speaker 1: Because some people, you know, and then who does the
Speaker 1: audience fall in love with it? Doesn't it would be
Speaker 1: some unexpected character, it would piss other people off. I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking, this is me knowing the real life of
Speaker 1: what happens in reality TV. Anyway, if they like the idea,
Speaker 1: tell them to call me, because I think it's a
Speaker 1: really funny, great idea. I think it's so, but I
Speaker 1: also think it's kind of like I'm not to keep
Speaker 1: this going, but I just kind of like there was
Speaker 1: an episode where I think Alexis was trying to be
Speaker 1: the pr person for our motel, and I remember Stevie
Speaker 1: and mister Rose were very, very awkward on camera, and
Speaker 1: I feel like we would definitely be the uncomfortable ones, right,
Speaker 1: or like what if you were the star character to
Speaker 1: annoy them. It's not even their fans, you know, and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could be the reality TV show producer that like
Speaker 1: comes in and pitches the idea it's ridiculous, but it's
Speaker 1: cleaned this to them as zero thing. Yes, okay, you
Speaker 1: never know, you never know. I just I kept flushing
Speaker 1: it in my mind, like you know when I wake
Speaker 1: up in the morning, and I thought, it's not like
Speaker 1: just like an idea. I think it's a really good
Speaker 1: like it's a good idea. It's like, no, it's a
Speaker 1: really good idea. Okay, So tell me about this graphic
Speaker 1: novel because I love the cover. So it's it's basically,
Speaker 1: I was approached by an old agent of mine had
Speaker 1: had gone on to He wanted his passion his comic books,
Speaker 1: and so he went to work for a comic book
Speaker 1: company and they do mostly like music people and their comics.
Speaker 1: And he was like, you know who I think might
Speaker 1: have a comic book in her as Emily, and so
Speaker 1: he pitched me the idea of doing something, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what I'd do. I'd have
Speaker 1: to have an idea. And then I was watching the
Speaker 1: Kardashians as one does, yes, and I was like, what
Speaker 1: if I was like just born into that family, I
Speaker 1: would be the sister that like no one heard about
Speaker 1: because I would be totally kicked off that ship, like
Speaker 1: they wouldn't let me on the reality show because I
Speaker 1: was such a bad influencer. Um. And so I kind
Speaker 1: of got this idea that like, what if the Kardashians
Speaker 1: were a family of witches, like super elite witches, and
Speaker 1: there was this one sister who you never heard about
Speaker 1: because she was kicked off the show because she was
Speaker 1: a shit witch. And so that is Amelia. She is.
Speaker 1: I mean I did originally want to call it shit,
Speaker 1: which but it's um, she's a basic I love but basic,
Speaker 1: which is amazing because it's so like TikTok language, like
Speaker 1: you're such a basic, which it's great, what a great
Speaker 1: I love that idea. I love the whole entire thing.
Speaker 1: You should see Bad Cinderella. I really enjoyed it because
Speaker 1: it was so funny and stupid but effectively Bad Cinderella
Speaker 1: is Oh my god, I feel like the title says it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's totally it. And what's so funny is the reality
Speaker 1: show you pitched me for for shits is exactly how
Speaker 1: I see the show of this comic book going. That's
Speaker 1: so for how weird were like the speaker that I
Speaker 1: came in with that to you at this time, and
Speaker 1: you're having that thought. This book it's weird. It's like
Speaker 1: meant to be very interesting. So this is another strange
Speaker 1: thing I'll say to you. I have never learned so
Speaker 1: many things that I wanted to ask questions about from
Speaker 1: somebody's US Weekly twenty five things you don't know about me.
Speaker 1: Usually it's like I like China gum, but I only
Speaker 1: like like, you know, it's just like very it's like
Speaker 1: stupid and you flip by and who cares because I've
Speaker 1: done it myself. But this is where I learned everything
Speaker 1: you ever need to know about you. So I don't
Speaker 1: know what that means, but we're going to talk about it.
Speaker 1: So you reapposter a couch on your own. So I
Speaker 1: like you love home design. I love it, and I
Speaker 1: love crafts and projects and I love I'm not good
Speaker 1: at executing them. How did you reapholster a couch on
Speaker 1: your own? I want to hear what the process is
Speaker 1: like to do that. Okay, So I, like you just said,
Speaker 1: I love making things, and so what I just did
Speaker 1: was I took it apart. I got a like fifty
Speaker 1: dollar couch from Goodwill, and I took it apart, and
Speaker 1: then I just copied it and put it back together.
Speaker 1: And it I mean, if I did it again, why, well,
Speaker 1: because I put it back together new fabric. Like you know,
Speaker 1: I just made that sound easy. What do you mean
Speaker 1: you took it apart and put it back together? Like,
Speaker 1: how do you do that? How did you know how
Speaker 1: to do it? You do a YouTube video? No, this
Speaker 1: was even This was like in two thousand and six.
Speaker 1: I think I have an album of insanity with it. It
Speaker 1: It took me, like way too long. It took me
Speaker 1: almost a year or two be a holster this couch.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like but it because I really wanted
Speaker 1: this at the time, this couch from anthropology that was
Speaker 1: like so beautiful, and at that time it was like
Speaker 1: what I could not afford it, And so I would
Speaker 1: make things that I couldn't afford. And uh yeah, So
Speaker 1: if I took it apart the fabric, each thing I'm
Speaker 1: stitched it and then just copied each one and then
Speaker 1: I know how to sew a bit, and I did that,
Speaker 1: and then I got a staple gud and then I
Speaker 1: got a little nail, and then I did each little thing.
Speaker 1: It was a project. It was just no. I then
Speaker 1: sold it for like I sold it for a thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: which was like to me, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if those people who I sold it to,
Speaker 1: like the minute they sat on it, it disintegrated, but
Speaker 1: it looked good. So these are things that I relate
Speaker 1: to you on I my dogs because I guess sometimes
Speaker 1: they're in the Hamptons and we're we're near the beach.
Speaker 1: We're not on the beach, but sometimes they smell like
Speaker 1: some like sort of fishy and I like it, Like
Speaker 1: they smell like doggish and I like it. And I
Speaker 1: read that about you liking the smell of your dogs
Speaker 1: when they like don't and it's weird. It's like gasoline
Speaker 1: or something. It's like a smell that I I love
Speaker 1: the smell of dog paws, specifically dog they smell like
Speaker 1: like Freedo's kind of most dogs. Pause. Um, I'm asking, Brine,
Speaker 1: do you have dogs around you right now? Small their pause,
Speaker 1: they're upstairs. Brin will go because she likes fritos and
Speaker 1: she she loves any kind of dog talk, any kind
Speaker 1: of dog talk. And then that you're a big hat
Speaker 1: but by the way, for your new hair, your big
Speaker 1: hat wear, which I am, and I've been a hat
Speaker 1: wearer since before it was cool to be wearing hats,
Speaker 1: like I'm you're you're a person who looks good in
Speaker 1: every hat. Is that your thing? Well, it's it's not
Speaker 1: a fashion thing for me. It's not a fashion that
Speaker 1: I wear a giant it's a sun thing. So I
Speaker 1: wear a ridiculous hat all the time, so much so
Speaker 1: that some like this production got me a cake in
Speaker 1: the shape of my ridiculous hat. Um, so I never
Speaker 1: wear like a fashion hat. Oh okay, I do both
Speaker 1: at the same time. But I my purpose for bringing
Speaker 1: hats a vacation is sun. But then they may as
Speaker 1: well be fashionable. That's sort of my my emma. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I need to do, though, I need to
Speaker 1: like kill two birds with that one hat stone I
Speaker 1: had to be able to do. Yeah, you grew up
Speaker 1: in Canada. Yeah, from I'm from Montreal. Oh okay, my
Speaker 1: really good friend went to mcguil and it's from Montreal
Speaker 1: and I love my dad went to Miguel. Oh really,
Speaker 1: it's like a special place to go to school and
Speaker 1: it's like only people who know no and it's a
Speaker 1: good school. Yeah, it's a really good school. It's a
Speaker 1: really good school. And I went um on my show
Speaker 1: I think years ago, to Montreal and I was really
Speaker 1: it's not talked about how European that city is, Like,
Speaker 1: it's not discussed. It's so close to fly there and
Speaker 1: you're in like another I mean, you are in another country,
Speaker 1: but like you feel like you were on a plane
Speaker 1: for eight hours. I don't know why they need better
Speaker 1: marketing from Antrea. It's a it's another kind of like yeah,
Speaker 1: you're in Canada, but even Quebec kind of is like
Speaker 1: being in another country from from Na. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like nowhere else. What's so funny though, is that, um,
Speaker 1: you know how you just said, you said Montreal. That's
Speaker 1: the thing I would like to correct language on. Um.
Speaker 1: Every American says Montreal, Montreal, Montreal, Montreal. Right, yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I loved it Montreal. I loved it. I thought it
Speaker 1: was beautiful. Um, and you speak French because of growing
Speaker 1: up there. That's just why everyone speaks French. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you have to, Um, you have to be in
Speaker 1: French immersion, which is from like kindergarten to grade four
Speaker 1: it's all in French. And then four of six is
Speaker 1: like half the day in French, half to day in English.
Speaker 1: And so basically I can't like read or write in
Speaker 1: any language. Um. It just yeah, you have to learn,
Speaker 1: which is great because you have a second language. I yeah,
Speaker 1: then you just do the rest of the time in
Speaker 1: you have French class. And so how old do you
Speaker 1: and you knew you want to be an actress? Um?
Speaker 1: I mean I I I normally say when I'm asked this,
Speaker 1: I always say, you know, it was one of my
Speaker 1: mom took me to see lay Miss in grade six,
Speaker 1: and I like wanted to be a Bunyan. And but
Speaker 1: the more I've like thought about that recently, and especially
Speaker 1: because my mom had sent me sent me these like
Speaker 1: vhs converted to to like whatever files of me when
Speaker 1: I was younger, and like I was doing like commercials
Speaker 1: when I was five, pretending to do suff So I
Speaker 1: feel like it was always there that and I didn't
Speaker 1: know it until I saw somebody doing it as a job.
Speaker 1: But then I also in high school, I did a
Speaker 1: play and I had this tiny part and the high
Speaker 1: school vis principal came up to me after and she
Speaker 1: was like, you were really good. You were funny, and
Speaker 1: that was it. That was like I was just going
Speaker 1: to do that, and you were dedicated to it since then,
Speaker 1: So you've been a working actress most of your life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: since I was like eleven, that's amazing. And but was
Speaker 1: Shit's Creak your pop off? Like is it was a
Speaker 1: game changer? It was game changer after when it became
Speaker 1: really popular, But at the time, you know, I think
Speaker 1: we thought it was going to be more game changer
Speaker 1: than it was. Like I was signing onto a series
Speaker 1: with with Katherine O'Hara and Eugene Levy and and then
Speaker 1: it kind of we thought it was great, but no
Speaker 1: one was really watching um And only when we were
Speaker 1: done did it become really popular, which is very Shit's Creaky.
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's very ships creaky and very
Speaker 1: um bummer. Like while it was happening, you didn't, you know,
Speaker 1: get to. I mean, it's this amazing surprise, but you
Speaker 1: kind of thought, shit, this is like sucking a little.
Speaker 1: Why was it? Why did it get so many seasons
Speaker 1: if no one was watching it? Well, it got so
Speaker 1: many seasons because when they first went out to sell
Speaker 1: the show, they went out to everybody in America, like
Speaker 1: all the networks, and nobody wanted it. And so they
Speaker 1: did a pilot presentation and still nobody in America wanted it.
Speaker 1: So they went to the CBC in Canada and did
Speaker 1: it there. And because it was done in Canada with
Speaker 1: our Canadian broadcaster, that is the only reason we got
Speaker 1: a second season. And because with our Canadian government the
Speaker 1: sponsoring like our show, so nobody really has to watch.
Speaker 1: We just have to be all Canadian. Um wait, everybody's Canadian?
Speaker 1: What did you mean we have to be hold everybody show? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: except for Chris Elliott. Yeah. Is that a thing that
Speaker 1: everybody knows? I mean I don't know. I didn't know that. No,
Speaker 1: well I don't know. I don't think everybody knows it.
Speaker 1: But it is like if so, this CBC is like
Speaker 1: a networking Canada that is the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, which
Speaker 1: has government funding in it, and so if you're going
Speaker 1: to have government funding or use a tax credit it
Speaker 1: in Canada, you need to use Canadian talent. You need
Speaker 1: to use So that's so. Yeah. So but now Canada
Speaker 1: must have made a lot of money off of this.
Speaker 1: In the aggregates, they must be love you. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: kind of the greatest. It's my favorite story whenever I
Speaker 1: go out to pitch my own stuff is like nobody
Speaker 1: wanted it because at the time they wanted edgy stuff, edgy,
Speaker 1: dark comedy, and like this was something that nobody had
Speaker 1: seen before. And I do believe that the next big
Speaker 1: thing is not going to be the thing that is
Speaker 1: already popular. That's exactly that was the Skinny Girl Margaret,
Speaker 1: and nobody wanted it. Nobody. I pitched every major liquor company.
Speaker 1: They all said no. They all later came and tried
Speaker 1: to buy. It's the same story. No one's even like
Speaker 1: cared in the room, like coming on. I love that.
Speaker 1: I can't once again, I can't believe that. It's so
Speaker 1: shocking when you hear those stories after but it usually
Speaker 1: is the story of every like super breakthrough thing, and
Speaker 1: it's great, it's bittersweet, it's actually really nice. It's it's
Speaker 1: working harder and then the reward is a music. Um,
Speaker 1: and you've decided you're never going to be in a
Speaker 1: relationship again. Yeah, I kind of think I I really
Speaker 1: am obsessed with work. I Um, I love my friends,
Speaker 1: I have a great life. I feel like I don't
Speaker 1: want to make sacrifices for somebody else. Well, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: being so I love that You're It's so funny that
Speaker 1: you're saying this to me. And that's what what does
Speaker 1: pan sexual mean? So pan sexual is um? Oh, there
Speaker 1: was an episode of It's Uh. There was an episode
Speaker 1: on Ship's Creek about the wine life that that um
Speaker 1: that Dan's character David was explaining his sexuality through this
Speaker 1: metaphor of that he liked the wine, not the label,
Speaker 1: and so sometimes he liked the red wine a white
Speaker 1: wine and um, and I actually never understood that after
Speaker 1: I was like telling him, well, what am I If
Speaker 1: I just like I just fall in love with a person,
Speaker 1: doesn't it really doesn't. The gender wherever they are on
Speaker 1: the doctor's spectrum doesn't. It's like if I'm into that,
Speaker 1: and so that is what pen sexual is. But what
Speaker 1: annoys me about it is that that was that's a
Speaker 1: label that I was kind of given. Or I understand
Speaker 1: that people need to identify as something so that there's
Speaker 1: visibility and all that, but all the ultimate goal to
Speaker 1: me is like I don't want to have to identify
Speaker 1: as any right. But what's so funny is that the
Speaker 1: minute you say on my label that I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not I don't want a relationship, everybody wants to be
Speaker 1: in a relationship with you. It's the most attractive label
Speaker 1: for somebody say I have to do the reverse, I'll owe.
Speaker 1: What I was going to say is I think that's
Speaker 1: so interesting because as I've gotten older and I see
Speaker 1: this more with people around non traditional relationship. It's like
Speaker 1: I have a long distance relationship my fiance, it lives
Speaker 1: in Boston, his kids are there, my daughter's here. We
Speaker 1: have a long distance relationship, you know. And you know,
Speaker 1: I go to things alone a lot, Like I went
Speaker 1: to a movie premiere last night without him. Most things
Speaker 1: I go to alone. I'll even go on vacation sometimes.
Speaker 1: And and I don't even think people. I don't know
Speaker 1: if people judge me anymore, but like we're also together
Speaker 1: a lot, and we travel together a lot, but a
Speaker 1: lot of times he's in Boston going out with his
Speaker 1: friends or doing work things or on political events or
Speaker 1: whatever with without me, and like it's non traditional, but
Speaker 1: it works, and I want to say I like it.
Speaker 1: There's some things I don't like about it, but it's
Speaker 1: not about not being together, because I like not being
Speaker 1: together as much as I like being together, which is
Speaker 1: not by God. You just describe what might actually work
Speaker 1: for me as a relationship if I ever had when,
Speaker 1: which is that thing of the long distance, because that
Speaker 1: thing of I like going to things alone or being
Speaker 1: doing my own thing, and I like connecting with other people,
Speaker 1: and but I also like things. So if there was
Speaker 1: like a lot of space, I want my own place.
Speaker 1: I want my own Yeah, and we didn't. But by
Speaker 1: the way, we fell in love and we were like
Speaker 1: trying to put all the pieces together, like the calendar. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know we'll never be a part more than the days,
Speaker 1: and we'll put this here in the minute you get back.
Speaker 1: You'll come to New York and real life comes in
Speaker 1: and jet leg and dehydration and your job and your
Speaker 1: kid and you're fucking amount a rubber band man. So
Speaker 1: in the beginning he got bronchiatus. I was running around.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even happy. I was like, all we're doing
Speaker 1: is trying to talk about the calendar. With the term
Speaker 1: the calendar is like gives me hides because all we
Speaker 1: were doing was like in the when we're doing and
Speaker 1: it became unenjoyable. So even yesterday Paul was like, email me,
Speaker 1: He's like, just calendar thing, it's just out there. It
Speaker 1: doesn't mean me have to talk about it now. It
Speaker 1: just means because I am so averse to the calendar
Speaker 1: that he's the only one who even understands what goes
Speaker 1: on with it. It could be June ninety nine today
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't know saying, you know, so he has
Speaker 1: to keep a little otherwise we never you know, because
Speaker 1: I get angs up. Yeah. Oh once, but he was
Speaker 1: he's younger than I am, and he used to have
Speaker 1: more of a problem with it because he's a traditional
Speaker 1: kind of guy and he, you know, hasn't been in
Speaker 1: as many relationships and also, you know, younger than I am. Once,
Speaker 1: like the idea of it not being ideal where you're
Speaker 1: judging yourself when you're judging your own relationship about like
Speaker 1: what it's supposed to be and then it's not I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to think it's this, and I once that took
Speaker 1: a year to like defrost. He's started like accepting to himself.
Speaker 1: I like being alone and I don't like you know,
Speaker 1: I like being alone. I like being alone with my
Speaker 1: kids and alone with my routine, and you know, because
Speaker 1: because stupid shit, just I want to go in the
Speaker 1: room and fucking review makeup for ten hours and like
Speaker 1: not be. I want to see what I want to eat.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be like, oh I don't know
Speaker 1: what I talk about dinner. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: what we're gonna have for dinner. But that sounds so
Speaker 1: you're so right. That's when you take out that thing
Speaker 1: that you're supposed to do, that it can become like
Speaker 1: its own thing. Also, we have a very similar calendar
Speaker 1: thing because when somebody is on me about like when
Speaker 1: we're gonna do some there or something, I just like,
Speaker 1: first of all, I'm never gonna want to do it
Speaker 1: when that thing comes, because I do it. That's where
Speaker 1: this thing you have to understand. I don't like anyone
Speaker 1: telling me I have to do anything, even if I
Speaker 1: want to do it. Oh my god, I have this
Speaker 1: therapy session every week with my therapist that like a
Speaker 1: friend of mine will be like, oh you want let's
Speaker 1: watch this movie. You wanted to watch it. Well, now
Speaker 1: I don't want to watch it. Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: love we can be very good friends. I'll tell you why,
Speaker 1: because I just will. I'm the same person I like.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go. Why, I just I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go, that's my answer. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't care what someone like. I'm very non filtered
Speaker 1: in that way. But it's not about you. It's not
Speaker 1: that I don't like you. Right now, I don't talk.
Speaker 1: I text you twenty minutes ago. I wanted to talk.
Speaker 1: Then I don't want to talk. Oh my god. So
Speaker 1: the best president I've ever gotten from a friend who
Speaker 1: really knows me is that they'll from my birthday, will
Speaker 1: see up like a dinner, that we're gonna have dinner,
Speaker 1: and then they cancel. Because nothing makes me happier than
Speaker 1: game canceled plans. It's my time. I would never give
Speaker 1: myself and the credit because you didn't. Do you get
Speaker 1: a cred you got a credit point too, But we
Speaker 1: are the same that totally, But like, really I do
Speaker 1: tell my therapist every time about like, why what is
Speaker 1: this that anytime someone tells me what to do, even
Speaker 1: if I want to do it, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do it anymore. We're god, guess what you can fight.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you have to find sun. There are
Speaker 1: people that can roll like that, and but they have
Speaker 1: to be trained. Like it's just the way that goes.
Speaker 1: It's very very very interesting. We have I have a
Speaker 1: new best friend. Yeah, I like what you say. It's
Speaker 1: not the partners that. Yes, I would marry you right now,
Speaker 1: right now. You can go over a few makeup you know.
Speaker 1: My favorite thing to do is actually a parallel play
Speaker 1: where I'm doing my own thing, you do your own thing.
Speaker 1: We're together, but leave me the fuck alone. Same same,
Speaker 1: But I died over what you said about the fucking meal.
Speaker 1: When the other person has a different style and you
Speaker 1: need a protein and a vegetable and a thing, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I want to eat hummus or pure ad soup as
Speaker 1: a meal or cake and like yogurt like whatever there.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it. I don't like
Speaker 1: meal time either. I want to walk. I don't want
Speaker 1: to time to walk doesn't tell me when I'm hungry,
Speaker 1: I don't watch and exactly that thing. I like, well,
Speaker 1: you want to eat all order my own thing? You
Speaker 1: what we have to both get that we can both
Speaker 1: uber eat something different. Oh I could, but I can't
Speaker 1: believe the meal time thing is also Again, my therapist
Speaker 1: is like, this comes from your childhood, not have anything.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just don't want I eat what I
Speaker 1: want to fucking eat. No, it's not you. I totally agree,
Speaker 1: I'm the same. Then we have the same child and
Speaker 1: I'm the same thing. Because I don't want to think
Speaker 1: about it. I literally think I failed at a talk
Speaker 1: show because it's seven in the morning. They would come
Speaker 1: into the clipboard next week and what did you want
Speaker 1: to have for lunch? And I'm like, I don't fucking know.
Speaker 1: It's seven in the morning, I asked me at twelve
Speaker 1: forty two. Then I'll decide I probably I probably won't
Speaker 1: even know the definite have met anyone who understands. But
Speaker 1: nothing enrages me more than that question. Or actually that's
Speaker 1: not true. The only thing that I enrages me more
Speaker 1: of somebody texting hi or how are you? Or hey,
Speaker 1: which is past what do you fucking want just say
Speaker 1: it's passive aggressive. It's very passive aggressive. It's that's funny.
Speaker 1: So I think you might be like me where you'll
Speaker 1: like I'll sometimes have Paul on my therapist with me
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, heays, you know, she's Melinda and
Speaker 1: she's so nice and she's so therapisty. The other day
Speaker 1: I said to her, I came home and I needed
Speaker 1: to unpack, and there were all these boxes that came
Speaker 1: it's because of this beauty influencing. We'll talk another day.
Speaker 1: I became an accidental beauty influencer. I'm like, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It was literally like it's like ship's creek. It should
Speaker 1: have been. I wasn't trying, I was doing nothing. I
Speaker 1: look like a train wreck. So I walk in the
Speaker 1: house and the onslaught of all the stuff when I
Speaker 1: walk in. I got to unpack and to go through it, etc.
Speaker 1: So Melinda says to me, well, it's interesting that you,
Speaker 1: you know, you decided that you needed to unpack the beauty.
Speaker 1: At that point, I go, no, it's fine, it's not
Speaker 1: fucking interest. It's never changing, Melinda. That's one of the
Speaker 1: things we never need to work on. It's a dog
Speaker 1: being a dog and a cap being. Okay, I walk
Speaker 1: in the house, I'm unpacking the ship. I got a
Speaker 1: full fight with her, I full fight. I'm I do
Speaker 1: not don't say it that way again. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I actually have been working on with my therapist and
Speaker 1: that he now thinks that I'm annoyed when we've said
Speaker 1: an appointment, because we've said an appointment, and I kind
Speaker 1: of am because every time I have it, I'm like
Speaker 1: doing something. So I'm like, oh, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do this now I don't want to and but like
Speaker 1: so then I'm like, don't. I'm like, I have nothing
Speaker 1: to say. I have not Anything's like, this is because
Speaker 1: you think that this is a lorded over you are
Speaker 1: forced on you and you don't want to be controlled.
Speaker 1: It's true, it is by you, but you decided you
Speaker 1: were gonna be that person, and you decide you're gonna
Speaker 1: get leg warmers and work out also, and that doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to be going that great. So you know, I
Speaker 1: decided I was gonna get a thousand, ten thousand steps
Speaker 1: every day. I get ten hundred steps every day. So
Speaker 1: that's why you made the appointment, and now you fucking
Speaker 1: hate Yeah, I chose it. But yeah, yeah, and you
Speaker 1: should get that's a funny ship's correct thing. I should
Speaker 1: get a therapist for my therapist. And I, oh, that's
Speaker 1: a great that's a great idea. That is a great idea.
Speaker 1: That show for that's fictitious show. I'm produced already. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they have to because that. They always make you do
Speaker 1: a therapy scene on the reality shows like I'm I'm
Speaker 1: the first one to have done that because I had
Speaker 1: my therapist now was a very big deal on the
Speaker 1: show Doctor Ramador. So it'll be funny if like maybe
Speaker 1: and his therapist or moy whoever, David, David get a therapist.
Speaker 1: That's really good. Yeah, yeah, we are friends now, this
Speaker 1: is I love you so much. I love you so
Speaker 1: so much. And you can cancel when we make plans
Speaker 1: because I'm the person that's like ten minutes before I'm like,
Speaker 1: if you want to get a drink, let's go. If not, yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Yeah, you know I'm marrying you. That's it.
Speaker 1: We're done. I know. I know you've got this thing
Speaker 1: in Boston, and that's fine with me. Now that's actually
Speaker 1: fine with me. I'm calling I'm gonna tell Paul Tell
Speaker 1: miracle mom. I'm gonna tell him he might be fine.
Speaker 1: She's pan sexual. Yeah that's oh my god. I love you.
Speaker 1: Don't even know what we talked about. I think you're
Speaker 1: not either. I think you have a graphic novel. I
Speaker 1: think you Um yeah, I think you're amazing. I think
Speaker 1: I want to be friends. That's I mean, really saying
Speaker 1: that I want to be friends with someone like I'm
Speaker 1: pursuing a friendship with you. I have more friends, I
Speaker 1: have more friends ever, but this is this is gonna
Speaker 1: work fide one in all right. I gotta give them
Speaker 1: your tell your people to give me information so we
Speaker 1: can laugh and send each other funny things that we
Speaker 1: see because I love you, and also tell your friends
Speaker 1: about my idea because you never know we might be
Speaker 1: I will, I will. I actually think it's really great. Also,
Speaker 1: I kind of only want to do a new Ship's
Speaker 1: Creek thing if you're in it now. So yeah, um,
Speaker 1: either put in your contract. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay. I
Speaker 1: love you so much. I love you too, so this
Speaker 1: is so oh wait, wait, get my dog Molly again.
Speaker 1: Oh Brita's so happy if I marry someone from Ship's
Speaker 1: Creek forget it. Oh wait, are you gonna get your
Speaker 1: dog or your dog and daughter brit Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Pete too. Hold on, let me sell to get we
Speaker 1: gotta smell feet, we gotta get brand and hold on
Speaker 1: and come down. Yeah, okay, she's coming. Wait. How many
Speaker 1: daughters do you have? I have one daughter and two dogs,
Speaker 1: Biggie and small As. They're ten pounds, one letter one small. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're very cute, and I'm saying, bring them to and
Speaker 1: the dogs. Hold on. What a fun wow, what a funny,
Speaker 1: unexpected conversation because I'm never like really prepared, but it
Speaker 1: usually is just like sort of some background and whatever.
Speaker 1: We just like roiled into randomness. It was so awesome.
Speaker 1: Oh this was honestly. I like, so, I've been like
Speaker 1: I don't want to do pod Yes, yeah, I know
Speaker 1: I know someone's podcasts because it's the same and it's
Speaker 1: no one's bolt. It's just like, I only have one life,
Speaker 1: so I only have one story for every moment of
Speaker 1: my life, and I feel like I've told it a
Speaker 1: million times. All right, Tebe is my friend. You want
Speaker 1: to ask her anything? Oh, I pitched her the show.
Speaker 1: I pitched her a show. I think that's all of
Speaker 1: the ship. The one that all of ships creak the reality.
Speaker 1: Do you have any questions for her before I let
Speaker 1: her go? Because I only ask for your favorites or oh,
Speaker 1: who's your favorite character Alexis and Annie who plays Alexis?
Speaker 1: Who's yours? David? That's what I'm But she says, I'm
Speaker 1: like David. Are you most like your character? Are you?
Speaker 1: Of all the characters, are you the most like Stevie? No,
Speaker 1: I'm no. People are usually disappointed that I'm not like
Speaker 1: Stevie as much, but um no, Dan is the most
Speaker 1: like his character, and I'm the most like him. I
Speaker 1: very much have his personality, and she very much has
Speaker 1: Alexis personality. Who's who are you the most like? Well,
Speaker 1: I guess in all the I guess Stevie. But I'm
Speaker 1: not really like Stevie as much. I'm a little I'm
Speaker 1: a little Moira too, with the dramatic outfit sometimes and
Speaker 1: coming out of the club, I'm a little more too.
Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna leave her. You'll get to meet
Speaker 1: her because we're gonna be friends. Yea, I might be
Speaker 1: your your new moms mom. Yeah, that mom, that first
Speaker 1: person ever and like a long time she said that
Speaker 1: about sick. Yeah, because we like the same we like
Speaker 1: we're very we like the same thing and liking nothing
Speaker 1: and we don't want to be correct back. Oh you finished?
Speaker 1: Was this exciting? Yeah? All right, Well we'll go to
Speaker 1: La and oh, no, where where do you live? Now?
Speaker 1: I live in La, but I'm coming to New York. Right,
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll include that when we go see Bad Cinderella,
Speaker 1: which is, oh, I want to see Bad Cinerella. I'll
Speaker 1: get yeah, know that the expectation. It's not lakaja fox
Speaker 1: or lay miss. It's campy, cheesy. I loved that. I
Speaker 1: thought it was very funny. Like I said, I got
Speaker 1: a shitty review. I enjoyed. I want to take her.
Speaker 1: So maybe I'll get tickets and you don't have to
Speaker 1: show up. I loved to okay, Steve, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: show now. I want to go all right, like, oh,
Speaker 1: look at her graphic novel. Hold on, Britt, Remember when
Speaker 1: you used to read graphic novels and I'd say, you
Speaker 1: can't read them as books, like you have to read
Speaker 1: so but you can because that's how I'm dyslexic. So
Speaker 1: I found it really hard to read, and so I
Speaker 1: could read graphic novels because there's pictures. So she's a witch.
Speaker 1: That's part of like a witch family like the Kardashians,
Speaker 1: where they're all like good social media and they're all
Speaker 1: like graded and she her character is terrible at that.
Speaker 1: So her character like needs to be excommunicated from the
Speaker 1: family because she's a basic witch. She wanted to say
Speaker 1: shit witch, but they wouldn't let her. But she's a
Speaker 1: big do you like it? So cute? Ruining everything the
Speaker 1: Amelia Airwood story, so she's she screwed it all up.
Speaker 1: She's kind of like Karty Kardashian. She's the all time
Speaker 1: you know, she's the alarative one not playing the game.
Speaker 1: Um all right, well, I love you, I love you.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to meet you in person. That was
Speaker 1: so exciting. Best part of my day. Those my rose,
Speaker 1: best part of my life, my entire podcasting life, best part.
Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you so much, Bye bye. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's my favorite podcast I've ever done. Favorite podcast guests,
Speaker 1: And um, you know her Emily and she's Stevie from
Speaker 1: m Shit's Creek And I was excited because my daughter
Speaker 1: loves Shit's Creek and excited as I am forever guests
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, looking forward and let's hear that. But
Speaker 1: that was ridiculous. That was epic. It was so fun,
Speaker 1: so interesting. I don't know if I've met another person
Speaker 1: that's more like me. What a pleasure, a dream. Love
Speaker 1: her and I'm gonna take her. Got to text my
Speaker 1: publicists right now because I'm going to take her to
Speaker 1: bad Cinderella Fact loved her, follow her by her book.
Speaker 1: She's my new best friend and possibly wife. I gotta
Speaker 1: call Paul and get approval. Bye, guys,