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Speaker 1: Welcome to Noble Blood, a production of I Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Minkie. Listener discretion is advised.

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Speaker 1: In her early twenties, Francis Howard dealt with two scandals.

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Speaker 1: The first was certainly the more significant, a scandal that

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Speaker 1: occupied courtly gossips for years. The scandal was she was

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Speaker 1: trying to get an annulment from her husband, Robert Devereaux.

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Speaker 1: The two had been married in their early teens, and

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Speaker 1: they had had barely any contact before Devereaux went on

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Speaker 1: his grand tour around Europe for a few years. When

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Speaker 1: he came back, he had smallpox, so you couldn't really

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Speaker 1: blame Francis for not wanting to go to bed with him,

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Speaker 1: even if she hadn't fallen in love with another man

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Speaker 1: at court while her husband was gone, which she had.

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Speaker 1: Francis was a daughter of the powerful Howard family, and

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Speaker 1: the gossips surrounding the impending annulment gave the Court of

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Speaker 1: James the first plenty to talk about during the early

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Speaker 1: sixteen hundreds. But during the long process of these annulment negotiations,

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Speaker 1: Francis Howard had to deal with the second scandal, much smaller,

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Speaker 1: and much easier resolved. Francis had a ring that went missing.

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Speaker 1: The ring was stolen, or so Francis claimed, by a

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Speaker 1: local faith healer who went by the name cunning Mary.

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Speaker 1: When the authorities confronted Cunning Mary, who did indeed have

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Speaker 1: the diamond ring in her possession, Cunning Mary protested. She

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Speaker 1: said that the ring wasn't stolen, that Francis Howard had

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Speaker 1: given the ring as a deposit in exchange for her

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Speaker 1: help in killing Francis's husband. Cunning Mary claimed that, of

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Speaker 1: course she had refused Francis's request, and in Francis's rage

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Speaker 1: at the rejection, she decided that she would frame the

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Speaker 1: old woman for robber. No one really took cunning Mary's

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Speaker 1: defense seriously, after all, she was a folk healer with

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Speaker 1: the name cunning Mary, and Francis Howard, by contrast, was

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Speaker 1: one of the most powerful young women in England. And

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Speaker 1: so Cunning Mary was tried and convicted of the robbery,

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Speaker 1: and Francis went back to dealing with the larger problem

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Speaker 1: of her annulment from her husband and her desire to

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Speaker 1: marry another man. This small story with the ring and

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Speaker 1: Cunning Mary is often omitted in larger stories about Francis Howard.

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Speaker 1: It's overshadowed by what comes next, an infamous murder trial

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Speaker 1: for an actual murder that makes gossip about her annulment

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Speaker 1: seem almost quaint by comparison. But I think the ring

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Speaker 1: story is important to give the larger story context. Other

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Speaker 1: or not Francis actually tried to use cunning Mary's folk

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Speaker 1: magic in her early twenties to try to kill the

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Speaker 1: husband she wanted to get rid of. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: there's really no evidence beyond cunning Mary's word, but young

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Speaker 1: girls in love have done crazier things, and as you'll

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Speaker 1: soon discover, Francis Howard would do her fair share of

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Speaker 1: crazy things in order to secure her future. But what

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Speaker 1: I find so compelling about the ring story is the

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Speaker 1: power dynamic at play. Whether or not Francis Howard was

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Speaker 1: attempting murder, it was the poor woman who took the

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Speaker 1: blame for the missing ring, the poor woman who went

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Speaker 1: to trial, who was convicted, and who faced the consequences.

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Speaker 1: But what I do know is that Francis Howard's life

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Speaker 1: for being in the seventeenth century feels like an all

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Speaker 1: too modern indictment of the privileges of wealth. And influence.

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Speaker 1: Francis Howard would only ever be on trial for one murder,

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Speaker 1: but nearly half a dozen bodies would hang because of her.

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Speaker 1: Francis Howard, or as she's known later by her married name,

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Speaker 1: Countess Francis Carr, didn't murder her first husband, nor was

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Speaker 1: she ever seriously accused of it. The murder trial would

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Speaker 1: come later. It would be a public spectacle, with people

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Speaker 1: in the courtroom that day, and at least in my imagination,

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Speaker 1: he might have smiled when the judge declared Francis Howard guilty.

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Speaker 1: I'm Danish Worts and this is noble blood. The War

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Speaker 1: the highest echelons of nobles in the English court. It

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Speaker 1: was the dawn of a brand new dynasty the Tutors,

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Speaker 1: and like it would be eventually with the American West.

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Speaker 1: With the new comes the exciting possibility that there's room

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Speaker 1: for social advancement. There were new duchies to claim, new

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Speaker 1: earldoms to be given away. Titles were given and taken

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Speaker 1: back and restored again. Families like the Bolins tried to

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Speaker 1: on the throne before their gambit famously collapsed. The Howards,

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Speaker 1: one of their daughters, the young, beautiful Catherine Howard, But

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Speaker 1: like the Bolins, their stellar rise was preceded by this

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Speaker 1: spectacular fall of another beheading. After King Henry the Eighth

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Speaker 1: of his other daughter, Queen Elizabeth. The first Elizabeth was

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Speaker 1: Miss Lee, a virgin queen, and so after Elizabeth, the

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Speaker 1: throne went to King James, the first son of the

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Speaker 1: executed Mary, Queen of Scots. Throughout all of this, families,

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Speaker 1: with a particularly fallow period. The teenage Queen Catherine Howard

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Speaker 1: was executed. Another Howard cousin, Thomas Howard, was executed by

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Speaker 1: another Thomas Howard, was also executed for becoming involved in

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Speaker 1: It was looking like all the Howards could do was

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Speaker 1: make the current monarch mad at them. But then the

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Speaker 1: third Thomas Howard, son and grandson of the executed Thomas Howard's,

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Speaker 1: go on to have fourteen children. One of these children

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Speaker 1: born at a precarious but cautiously optimistic time When it

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Speaker 1: came to her family's fortunes. The most important thing for

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Speaker 1: made absolutely sure of that. At fourteen years old, Francis

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Speaker 1: relatively scientific thinking believed that it was dangerous and a

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Speaker 1: little unseemly to consummate marriages that young. For women, it

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Speaker 1: And for men, it was believed that if they spent

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Speaker 1: Francis and Devereaux were married, they were raised completely separately.

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Speaker 1: When they were teenagers, Devereaux was sent on a three

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Speaker 1: the time, and Francis was sent to court. Here's the

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Speaker 1: problem with sending a beautiful teenage countess to court when

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Speaker 1: she doesn't really know or care about her slightly younger husband.

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Speaker 1: She might fall in love with someone else, which Francis

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Speaker 1: Car was already one of King James's favorites, and stock

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Speaker 1: he was equally besotted. They were a perfect match, an

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Speaker 1: By now, Francis was a woman of twenty, and she

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Speaker 1: saw her future happening one of two ways, getting to

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Speaker 1: father and uncle brought the case only too happy to

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Speaker 1: encourage their daughters even more, promising second marriage to come.

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Speaker 1: The claim was that her first marriage had never been consummated,

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Speaker 1: which Devereaux reluctantly acknowledged was true, but not for lack

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Speaker 1: whole thing was especially humiliating for Devereaux. Devereaux would take

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Speaker 1: It's not that I can't have sex, Devereau moaned, It's

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Speaker 1: the key steps in securing an annulment by non consummation

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Speaker 1: This dame was inspected, but fraud interjected a maid of

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Speaker 1: the people in charge decided that yes, Francis Howard was

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Speaker 1: status quo or upset the Devereaux family and their allies.

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Speaker 1: But a larger factor was a courtier behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: courtier's name was Thomas Overbury. He was Carr's best friend

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Speaker 1: Thomas Overbury met Robert Carr when they were both young

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Speaker 1: Overbury was a student. The two hit it off, and

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Speaker 1: almost immediately Overbury recognized that Car had something that he

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Speaker 1: The two men would be reunited at court in London,

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Speaker 1: ready to fulfill the glorious promise of their futures. As

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Speaker 1: it happened, Overbury's prediction that Carr was a star was

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Speaker 1: Carr participated in a joust at court where the King

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Speaker 1: James the First just so happened to be in attendance. Carr,

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