1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: All right, here. 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 1: We go our number two on a Friday. By the way, 10 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: some I'm in my ear so I'm gonna got to 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: turn off some Mike. I can hear the control room. 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: Great to have you in Blazing five. We've had a 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: very good year. I always thought if I could get 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: the fifty five percent, I was in good space. We're 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: a little higher than at this year. You know, it's 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: funny about the NFL season. As you start looking right 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: now at who is winning their divisions, it is often 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: offensive coach or top coach with a really excellent quarterback. 19 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: So on an annual basis, I do not think it's 20 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: that difficult to predict, you know, divisions and winning teams. 21 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 1: That part's not as difficult. On a week to week basis. 22 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: Against the spread, it's not easy. But we introduce our 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: Blazing five. 24 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 2: Let's blaze it up, Fired Up, It's Collins Blazon fuck 25 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: Ravens and Bengals, folks. 26 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's won eight of his last nine starts. I 27 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: like the Bengals as a dog at home getting points. 28 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: They've played the fourth hardest schedule and they've gone toe 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: to toe. They should have eaten Buffalo last week. They've 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: scored thirty plus points in the three straight games with Burrow. 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: The defense now is not great, but seven takeaways in 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: three games. They're playing with a lot of energy. They're 33 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: playing with a lot of pride and Joe Burrow, folks. 34 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: Last year he was arguably, when healthy, the best quarterback 35 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: in the league. In Lamar Jackson struggling Ravens zero and 36 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: four against the spread in the last month, they're averaging 37 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: in the last month twenty points a game. I think 38 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 1: the Bengals at home as a dog is a sharp bet. 39 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: Twenty seven twenty four Cincinnati beats the stumbling Ravens. 40 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: Lions in Rams. 41 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: Rams minus five and a half is to play My 42 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: favorite bet, Clinch's playoff spot with a win. So it 43 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: matters a lot for the Rams, and they've won seven 44 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: of eight games, many comfortably They have the fewest offensive 45 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: mistakes in the league. They don't get penalized, they don't 46 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: get sacked, they don't give the ball away. And now 47 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: they're at home against the Lions team searching for an 48 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: offensive identity, the Lions averaging thirteen points a. 49 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: Game in their three road losses. 50 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: This is two teams that feel like one's totally in rhythm. 51 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: One is out of rhythm right now. Jared Goff is 52 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: facing a thirty eight percent pressure rate. They can't pick 53 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: up first downs on third or fourth. Matt Stafford at 54 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: home this year has been unbelievable. He's got time to throw. 55 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: I think the Rams win and the Rams cover. Final 56 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: score thirty three, twenty six. 57 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: Panthers at Saints. 58 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: I like the Panthers minus two and a half is 59 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: a road favorite. They come off extra rest with an 60 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: offensive coach, and I think they're just a better team 61 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: than the Saints. They're five and one when they score 62 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: at least twenty points. This year, again they beat the Rams. 63 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: This team's got a pretty high ceiling. Most improved defense 64 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: thanks to good drafting in the NFL this year. They 65 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: were a wreck defensively last year, averaging thirty one a game. Defensively, 66 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: they gave up thirty points down to twenty two. Saints 67 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: are in a letdown spot. They come off a big 68 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: win feeling themselves against Tampa, but Bryce Young's last three games. 69 00:03:58,600 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: I like them. 70 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: By the way, the Saint to be held under twenty 71 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: points in seven of eight games. This is an easy, 72 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: one big quarterback coach advantage right now. The defense playing well, 73 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Panthers to win and to cover 74 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: thirty twenty three. 75 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: Packers at Broncos. 76 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: I like green Bay minus two and a half, throwing 77 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: a four game winning streak. They finally got those wide 78 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 1: receivers healthy. They've been the second best offense in the league. 79 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: Have the Packers on the road. They're four to one 80 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: and one on the road. Christian Watson five touchdowns last 81 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: four games. They are really in sync offensively. The Broncos 82 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: are a bit overvalued because they've had the second easiest 83 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: schedule in the league. They have trailed has Denver in 84 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: twelve to thirteen games, and Denver plays close five straight 85 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: one score games Jordan Love on the road this year. 86 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: I like them in this spot. Denver may have the 87 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: better defense, but I'm not even s about that. I'm 88 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: gonna take Green Bay minus the points to win and 89 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: cover twenty eight twenty four. 90 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 2: Colt said, Seahawks. 91 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: Take the under forty two and a half, two run 92 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: heavy teams. It will be a fast game. Seattle big 93 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: game coming up. They want to get out of this 94 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: thing healthy. They're not gonna put Donald in harm's way. 95 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: They're gonna run the ball and that's all the Colts 96 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: can do. With forty four year old Philip Rivers as 97 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: a likely starting quarterback. Back to back games, the Seahawks 98 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: have held people under ten points. Offensively, they have the 99 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: highest rushing versentis. The Colts offense the last three games 100 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: has disappeared, so they don't want Philip Rivers throwing that 101 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: thing thirty times. The Colts are gonna run it. The 102 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: Seahawks want to keep Donald healthy for the last stretch 103 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: of the season in the playoffs. Seattle knows they're gonna 104 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: win it over under is forty two and a half. 105 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks blow them out thirty to six, 106 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: but I I think Seattle wants to get out of 107 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: this game. It's been a weird wild weather week, flooding 108 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: all over Seattle. They want to get in run the ball, 109 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: stay healthy, get ready for the big games coming up 110 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: against the Rams. So there's my blazing five j max 111 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: An any thoughts on it? 112 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 4: Absolutely terrifying how much I love these I've already bet three, 113 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 4: actually four, I bet the under in Seahawks Colt, so 114 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 4: I'm with you on that. I just can't get there 115 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 4: with the Bengals. Looks like t Higgins today. They're saying 116 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 4: no practice concussion that was clear in the Buffalo game. 117 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna play, but it may not matter. 118 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 4: Baltimore seems broken at this point. You've seen Lamar getting 119 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: a little surprised to hear he only has one carry 120 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,559 Speaker 4: of over twenty yards since the first week. 121 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 3: He's like, we've been saying, really ye Lamar. 122 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, by the way, the coach at Santa man 123 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: Or Margori to high school here. 124 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 3: In southern California. 125 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: One last week Dominant Win will now play Juggernaut Dalya 126 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: SYLFA the state title. So former quarterback Carson Palmer is 127 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: now fledgling superstar coach Carson Palmer and he's joining us 128 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: live here. Good coaching's hard, So congratulations to you. I'll 129 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: circle back on that So part of being quarterback is 130 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: being and this is a weird thing to say, but 131 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: kind of being obsessed, like Brady was kind of obsessed 132 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: by it, Like it is your life, training in the 133 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: off season, working with people. Maybe it's not that healthy, 134 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: but that's just part of the job. So I want 135 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: to play a brief bite from Joe Burrow this week 136 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: and just your interpretation of what he's going through. 137 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: Here's the sound. 138 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 5: You know, if I want to I want to keep 139 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 5: doing this, I have to have fun doing it. You know, 140 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 5: I've been through a lot, and if it's not fun, 141 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 5: then what am I doing it? 142 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: For eight of his last nine starts, which I always 143 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 1: thought was fun. How does that land for you, Carson? 144 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 6: He just looks frustrated. 145 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 7: You know, it's been an up and down progression to 146 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 7: get to this point for him playing for the Bengals. 147 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 7: A lot of injuries, a lot of surgeries, a lot 148 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 7: of frustrations. There's been some peaks, but there's definitely been 149 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 7: some valleys, and so I just think you see a 150 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 7: guy that he's wearing his frustration. 151 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 6: On his sleeve right now. It's obviously been a frustrating 152 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 6: year for. 153 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 7: Him to get hurt early and now come back and 154 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 7: they have to basically for the most part, went out 155 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 7: or having an incredible run here to get into the playoffs. 156 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 7: So I just think you're seeing the guy that's just frustrated. Unfortunately. 157 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 7: You know, he did that on that stage in front 158 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 7: of all those cameras and people, and now we're all 159 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 7: talking about it. 160 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 6: But I think that's what we're all seeing right now. 161 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can only go through rehabs so many times. 162 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: It beats you down a little bit mentally. Philip rivers 163 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: forty four. Now he knows, he knows this group. He 164 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: knows Shane Steichen, that was his quarterback coach with the Chargers, 165 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: so he's a stiking guy and he played for the 166 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: Colts forty four years old. My first reaction was, well, 167 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: he's a big, thick guy, so if he gets it, 168 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: he can handle it. But it's like a little terrifying. 169 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you tell me, at forty four, could you 170 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: have just decided I want to go play? What do 171 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: you make of this? 172 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 7: I can't wait to watch it. You know, I'm us 173 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 7: old guys. We're always pulling for the old guys. Old 174 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 7: guys rule, right, So I hope it goes great. I 175 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 7: can't imagine it will just because there is Russ, no 176 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 7: matter how incredible of a quarterback he's been throughout his 177 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 7: playing days, which he's been phenomenal, and I've always been 178 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 7: a huge fan of his. You know, when you take 179 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 7: five years off and you're coaching high school ball and 180 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 7: you come back into it, whether you're throwing every day 181 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 7: with the youngsters or not, there's a different pace, there's 182 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 7: a different speed. Those windows close really really quickly. But 183 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 7: I'm pulling for him, and the good news is he's 184 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 7: got a great defense, a phenomenal running running game, or 185 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 7: really good offensive line, so the you know, the things 186 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 7: he needs around him are there. But at the end 187 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 7: of the day, when you're forty four or it just 188 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 7: feels a little bit different when you're peeling yourself up 189 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 7: off that turt. 190 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: So Caleb Williams is interesting. I've been saying, if you 191 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: like Caleb, you gotta like bow Nicks. They're both uneven, 192 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: They're both very good in the fourth quarter. They have 193 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: great offensive coaches, excellent o lines, nice weapons and defenses 194 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: that are playmaking defenses. People seem to like Caleb more 195 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: than bow Whatever does it bother you? 196 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: I talked to Brady about this yesterday. 197 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: Does it bother you that Caleb is like at fifty 198 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: eight percent completion percentage that I wouldn't want my backup 199 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: to be there? And then I think to myself, he's 200 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: so dynamic, I get so much more with him. I 201 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: can probably live with it for a while. How it 202 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: does it bother you? Is that a concern that like 203 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: that's I always thought sixty one percent that was the 204 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: line you had to get above that. That was kind 205 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: of arbitrary. What do you make of his struggles accurate 206 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: accuracy wise? 207 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 7: It doesn't bother me. I mean it is you is 208 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 7: why it doesn't bother me. He's still young, he still 209 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 7: has years. He is so good outside the pocket and 210 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 7: so dynamic, as good as anybody I feel like I've 211 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 7: seen outside the pocket. The problem is at some point 212 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 7: he's going to have a hamstring, especially in these games 213 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 7: in December and into January, you're going to have, you know, 214 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 7: an ankle and knee, a hit flexer, something that limits 215 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 7: you outside the pocket. And at the end of the day, 216 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 7: this game and the playoffs is won. Being able to 217 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,239 Speaker 7: stand in the pocket, throw the ball accurately decisively downfield 218 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 7: while you're getting hit in the face, and he just 219 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 7: hasn't quite you know, found. 220 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 6: That rhythm yet. 221 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 7: I love the head coach there, being offensive minded guy, 222 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 7: you know, having that around him, you expect to see 223 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 7: him in these next couple of years get better. But 224 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 7: he's got to get better inside the pocket, There's no 225 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 7: doubt about it. It doesn't bother me because he is 226 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 7: so young and he's so dynamic outside the pocket, but 227 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 7: there's going to be that point in the year where 228 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 7: he's got to win inside the pocket and he's got 229 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 7: to be accurate with it. And I don't know that 230 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 7: he's there yet, but I'm not. I definitely wouldn't give 231 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 7: up on him. I just want to see some improvement 232 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 7: and we all want to see that inside the pocket 233 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 7: actor as he wise. 234 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: So I was saying this, when you pay a quarterback 235 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: with Buffalo's Pan Josh Allen or Kansas City's Pan Mahomes. 236 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: The Rams got a very team friendly deal on Stafford, 237 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: so they can go out and get a Devonte Adams. 238 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: But I always think it's tough because, especially in a 239 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: sport where you get tackled, I don't want to take 240 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: money off the table. If I was Josh Allen like 241 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: you've earned it. You're great. You're the one thing I 242 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: love about the team. But there is no question Carson, 243 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: if you take a little less and you can go 244 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: get an elite slot corner and a really, really nice 245 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: right tackle, you're a better football team. And so I 246 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: look at Mahomes, who's now making probably fifty to one 247 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: hundred million a year in endorsements. How do you feel 248 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: about that position about You know, taking less absolutely benefits 249 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: the roster. Brady and Breeze at the end of their 250 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: career could have made more money. But you are a 251 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: pro athlete. The billionaires not taking a pay cut. You know, 252 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: GM's not taking it, the coach isn't taking it. How 253 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: does it land for you as a former pro athlete 254 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: when we know it's discussed, Well, we'd be way better 255 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: with a team friendly deal. 256 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. 257 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 7: I think at the end of the day, you can 258 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 7: take less and take some money off the table if 259 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 7: you trust the organization to use that money wisely. I mean, 260 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 7: it's great to get all the money you can get 261 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 7: as a player, if you don't trust the people upstairs 262 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 7: that are pulling all the strings behind you, behind everything 263 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 7: that's going on with salary cap and free agency and 264 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 7: drafting the right guys. 265 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 6: If you trust those. 266 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 7: Guys around you, then you don't have to factor in 267 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 7: the size of your market, because if you're in the 268 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 7: market of La or Dallas or New York, there's plenty 269 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 7: of money to be made outside of your contract from 270 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 7: the organization. If you're at Kansas City or a Buffalo, 271 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 7: you really need to trust what's going on and how 272 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 7: that money is being used, and know and be confident 273 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 7: that that money is being used wisely, the money that 274 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 7: you're not accepting as a player, and assuming that the 275 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 7: team's going to use and spend wisely. If you believe 276 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 7: in them and you trust them, and they have a 277 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 7: great track record and they've done that around. 278 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 6: You, then I think it's a no brainer. 279 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 7: But if you don't have complete trust and faith in 280 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 7: the organization that they're going to do right with Sarry 281 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 7: Cap around you, then you know, I'm not surprised when 282 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 7: I see guys take as much money as possible in 283 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 7: their next contracts. 284 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: So usc you're Alma Mater had the number one recruiting class, 285 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: it's an nil world. Payers get played, players get paid, 286 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: there's free agency, the transfer portal. I think it's made 287 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: Indiana now is a powerhouse because they have a couple 288 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: of rich boosters. Vanderbilt, which is a very heady school, 289 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: is now going out and getting five star quarterbacks. USC 290 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: I think, I think there's a little trap in the 291 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: NIL you can overpay for people. I think USC's kind 292 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: of got the right GM. Now when you look at 293 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: college football and the world you lived in and what's 294 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: happening now with ni L, the playoff, the transfer portal, 295 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: are you comfortable with it? 296 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 3: How does it? How does it work for you now? 297 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 7: I think we're all kind of lost and and waiting 298 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 7: on the next set of rules or guidelines on how 299 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 7: this thing shakes out. But I'm excited to see we've 300 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 7: got three Santa Margarita kids, Uh, Samotekatsuwanga, Jaden Crowder, uh 301 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 7: Trent Moseley all going to SC next year, and you know, 302 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 7: most likely I expect those guys to have. 303 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 6: Impacts on that program right away. 304 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 7: They're incredible players, but they've really focused on California, you know, 305 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 7: being in a huge market, having this tradition, having the 306 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 7: success that I see has had for for generations. 307 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 6: I think that is a big piece of a pie. 308 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 7: And I love that they're they're attacking southern California and 309 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 7: really going after California. I think this is the mecca 310 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 7: of high school football. So they really zeroed in on 311 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 7: recruiting these kids, and they've got the boosters, they've got 312 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 7: the big money guys to be able to land the 313 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 7: number one class because they combined that rich tradition. 314 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 6: And history of the school and. 315 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 7: The program with the right amount of nil packages for 316 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 7: these young men. So I'm really happy and excited to 317 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 7: see sc success on the recruiting trail this year. And 318 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 7: they've done a phenomenal job chat about and the general 319 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 7: manager you mentioned has done a tremendous job really focusing 320 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 7: on southern California. Like I said, we've got three kids 321 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 7: going there and I wouldn't be surprised if we have 322 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 7: more in the future. 323 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: So I want to I want to close with this. 324 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: We have seen three teams, the Eagles, the Lions, and 325 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers were great offensively, they lost excellent coordinators. 326 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: The head coaching jobs. 327 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: All those coaches are crushing and instead of a big 328 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: global search, they just hired guys in house because it 329 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: was comfortable. And I said, to me, this year feels 330 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: like the year, identify coordinator value. We always look at 331 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: the head coach in the quarterback. It's like, no coordinators 332 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: really important. 333 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 3: In this league. 334 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: Philadelphia's rostered, Detroit's roster, Tampa Bay those are good rosters. 335 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: Those are great. 336 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: Quarterbacks, and they've fallen off a cliff and you, as 337 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: an offensive guy, have your team in the state final. 338 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: And I've said the rules now benefit so greatly offense 339 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: that even if you get a great defensive head coach 340 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL, he's going to keep losing coordinators. He 341 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: has to hit on coordinator after coordinator, because if you're hot, 342 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: you leave. Todd Bowles hit on the first two, may 343 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: not have hit on the third. Tell me, as a 344 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: former quarterback, the advantages you have perhaps over a defensive 345 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: minded coach on the old line on the quarterback relationship, 346 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: because it does feel like to me these offensive coaches 347 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: Sean Payton now is you know, on fire and Andy 348 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: Reid has run the league. Belichick felt a little outdated 349 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 1: in the end. Do you believe in your career and 350 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: your world, in your history the value of the offensive 351 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: coach with the rule changes, it is now a touchdown 352 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 1: a game advantage to guys like you who just know 353 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: that side better. 354 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 7: Well, there's no doubt the NFL the way they've protected 355 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 7: the quarterback and protected defenseless receivers. They are focused on 356 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 7: high scoring games at the end of the day. The 357 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 7: fan base, the highlight reels, all the social media, it's 358 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 7: a lot of the time about explosive plays, big plays, 359 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 7: spectacular plays. Say Kwon Barkley hurdling a guy and doing 360 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 7: a three sixty in the air. 361 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 6: I mean, that is what the NFL has pushed. 362 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 7: Again, they've really protected the quarterback position and now the 363 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 7: receiver position. So if you know, at the end of 364 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 7: the day, if you've got a coordinator that can align 365 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 7: the run game with the play action game and the 366 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 7: deep shot game, also get the ball out quick, also 367 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 7: run the ball, especially down in the red zone, that's 368 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 7: you know, that's a recipe for success. The hard thing 369 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 7: to do is to find coordinators, like you're saying, there's 370 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 7: a lot of really good coordinators that really understand pass 371 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 7: protection of the run game and have somebody to help 372 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 7: supplement the pass game stuff and vice versa. Some guys 373 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 7: that really understand the back end of the defense and 374 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 7: how to attack them in the passing game. But don't 375 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 7: really quite understand how to align their run game with 376 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 7: their play action game, and finding somebody that is the 377 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 7: complete package and total. 378 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 6: Package is a challenge. 379 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 7: I think, like you just mentioned, you're seeing it all 380 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 7: over the place, like quarterbacks, those kinds of coordinators are 381 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 7: really hard to find. 382 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: Congratulations Santa Margarita. Playing Dayla style for the state championship 383 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: first year as a coach. What will be your takeaway 384 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: beyond winning. 385 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 7: Just how hard it is. It doesn't matter if it's 386 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 7: high school, Junior, Pop, Warner, Peeweek College, NFL. It is 387 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 7: a challenge. It's incredible. It's been an incredible run for us. 388 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 7: We've got a phenomenal staff ourselves, we've got great kids, 389 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 7: we've got the support from the school, so this has 390 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 7: been the complete package. 391 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 6: But it's hard. 392 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 7: It's hard if you've got good players. It's hard if 393 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 7: you've got good coaches. Trying to mix it all together 394 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 7: and find those right recipes is a challenge. But it's 395 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 7: a blast, and I'm really excited. We're playing, like you said, 396 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 7: against an incredible program in Dala Sala. They've been great 397 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 7: for decades, so it's a tremendous matchup for us and 398 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 7: a great. 399 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 6: Opportunity for our players to shine on the biggest stage. 400 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 3: Carson Palmer has always good to see you. 401 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 6: Thanks, thanks going you bet. 402 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 3: Yeah it is it is. 403 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: I watched Baker Mayfield last night and my take is 404 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: they hit on back to back great coordinators. Doesn't mean 405 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: the current guy doesn't know what he's doing. But man, 406 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: when you lose Liam Cohen and Jacksonville and Dave Kanalis 407 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: and Ben Johnson, these guys are elite. They are a 408 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: plus guys. 409 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: It's you. 410 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: I've always said this that if you lose Jim Harball, 411 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: don't go down the hallway. You've got to get on 412 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: the phone with Jimmy Sexton. You've got to go hire 413 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: the best coach in the country available. I'll defend Alabama, 414 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: Greg Burn. You lose Nick Saban, you can't do better. 415 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: They didn't go down the hallway. They went all the 416 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: way to Seattle, three thousand miles away to get Kaylen 417 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: Debor And you say, well he struggled. You don't even 418 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: understand how good Kalen de Boor is. Bama is not 419 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: what they were six years by the way, Nicks. Last year, 420 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: Nick Saban, they didn't look the same. Remember when Nick 421 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: Saban started kind of complaining about the nil. Why because 422 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: he faced sark in Texas twice and Texas had the 423 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: better players. Because Texas money's much bigger than Alabama money. 424 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: So Klan de Borr is not going to become Nick Saban. 425 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 1: Can you win a Natty every fourth year? That's the 426 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: reality of the nil. I mean you're seeing it right now, Indiana. 427 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: Just bet Ohio State this idea of running the table 428 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: and winning every year. 429 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: Too, that is a total outlier. 430 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 4: Now when it comes to this Tampa stuff losing these coaches, Colin, 431 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 4: this is why you hire an offensive head coach, because 432 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 4: you get the defensive guy. If he has a good 433 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 4: offensive mind, he's stolen to be a head coach. Ton 434 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 4: So next month we're gonna do this cycle because I 435 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,239 Speaker 4: see Diana, Russini and Brear everybody talking about, oh, all 436 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 4: these coaches who are going to get interviews, and it's 437 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 4: a lot of defensive guys. Just I know that's one 438 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 4: of your big things, like you don't hire a defensive 439 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 4: head coach. Jesse Menter is great, but if you hire 440 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 4: him and he gets a good offensive mind, that guy's 441 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 4: gone in years. 442 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: We'll think about this. Caleb Williams got a defensive coach disaster. 443 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels got one. We all loved it. Year two, 444 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: what are they? Yeah, bo Nicks just keeps getting better. 445 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, you hire and I don't. The problem is I don't. 446 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: Want to go Pennix and Raheem Morris defensive coach looks 447 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: like I'm as. 448 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 4: By the way is Raheem Morris Todd Wolves? Are they 449 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 4: head coaches next year? I don't. That's why all these 450 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 4: Browns fans who want to run offs at Fanski. Be 451 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 4: very careful, Be careful. The grass isn't always greener as 452 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 4: they like to say. What if I mean, I'm telling 453 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 4: you Caleb again should do her. I like the Bears, 454 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 4: this whole Shugar Sanders thing. I know, it's only three starts. 455 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 4: He got nothing to work with. It was the Titans, 456 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 4: it was tut Tiger. 457 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 3: He went toe to toe with cam Ward and was 458 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: way more productive. 459 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, Kim Ward's on like an interim coach. Mike McCoy like, 460 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 4: I'm not, I'm not poo pooing shador I had a 461 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 4: really good game. He looked good. He looked as good 462 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 4: as he has all seasons. 463 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just It's fascinating that the NFL 464 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: trying to send a message. 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This is the 485 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 2: herd Line News. You just slide that in there. 486 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 4: I love it. Tam Oh boy, that guy's a character. 487 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 4: All right, let's start with the Bears. Your Bears, Colin. 488 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 4: I'm calling that. They are coming off that tough loss 489 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 4: to the Packers. Great game. I really like that football game. 490 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 4: It was a fun one. Now they match up with 491 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,479 Speaker 4: a three win Browns team this week. It is a 492 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 4: classic Sandwich spot and Ben Johnson wants to make sure 493 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 4: the team's urgency remains this week. 494 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 8: You know, you go from an emotional rivalry game like 495 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 8: we like we just played this week is equally important. 496 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 6: We need this win. We desperately need this win. 497 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they get a little bit of a break. 498 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: Minnesota is not a playoff team, and the Lions, I believe, 499 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: lose to the Rams and the Packers have a tough one, 500 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: So I don't think it's as desperate as that I 501 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: but I will say you need at this point, if 502 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: you're the Bears to win the games, you should win. 503 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: And you're a home seven point favorite against rookie Shador Sanders, 504 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: so this is a game they should win. And they've 505 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: got the much much deeper, better offensive line and receiving corps. 506 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just only caution here is late in the season. 507 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 4: Dogs are kind of barking as the as the favorite team. 508 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 4: They just want to win. You're right there on no 509 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: style points, we don't care about that. Let's get out 510 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 4: of here. No injury have Seattle this weekend. I totally agree. 511 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 4: But with this Bears. They got Packers next week. Humongous game. 512 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 4: I think they catch a break with this. Have you 513 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 4: seen the Browns injury report. It's almost like everybody is like, hey, 514 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 4: I've got an elbow injury. I'm out. I'm not playing. 515 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 4: Their offensive line is a mess. I think the Bears 516 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 4: do enough to win here, but I have no action 517 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 4: on this game. 518 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 3: I skipped it too. 519 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 4: I would say, under twenty five passes, it's gonna be cold. 520 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 4: I'm sure you'll be in the in the crowd for this. 521 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 3: Well, I think I know I won't five degrees. They're 522 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 3: talking it's not going to be cold where I'm watching it. 523 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: All right, let's move on. 524 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 4: Oh let's get back to the Eagles, and they're inflatable 525 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 4: positivity Bunny in the locker room. It lasted a week. 526 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 4: It was laughable, and then they lost to the Chargers 527 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 4: and then they popped the balloon or whatever that positivity 528 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 4: bunny is. Saquon Barkley wasn't a huge fan, and neither 529 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 4: was Eagles legend Jason Kelsey. 530 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 9: If I'm being very brutally honest, I thought it was 531 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 9: a surprise to see the rabbit because I'm like, it's 532 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 9: a sign of just like too much like joking around 533 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 9: or something that I think is like, actually, like you 534 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 9: should be really pissed off with the way you're playing, 535 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 9: and it's okay to be positive, but like, this is 536 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 9: something you do when everything's rolling and you're fricking performed well. 537 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 9: You don't do antics like this when you've the bed 538 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 9: for the last couple of weeks. 539 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: I love this. I totally agree with this. There's a 540 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 3: time and a place for everything. 541 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: If the Rams did this as a joke going into 542 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: the holidays, they did a Santa bubble, you were playing, well, 543 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: we want to give thanks for we're healthy. You do 544 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: it for a day, that's funny. When you're struggling, this 545 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: looks desperate and cringey. It is, JMC. There are different 546 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: times do different things. We all know that in life 547 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: there's a time to be tough on your kids. There's 548 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: a time to like lighten up a little dad. This 549 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: felt like, oh, we're struggling like this, somehow would produce 550 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: a different result. 551 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 3: It's like this. 552 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,239 Speaker 1: That's so so weird to me, and they got rid 553 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: of it after three days. 554 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 4: I do wonder, like, let's say Jalen Hurts doesn't throw 555 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 4: a pick on the final drive and gets a touchdown 556 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 4: because they were going toward a touchdown and they get 557 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 4: to win. 558 00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: Is the whole. 559 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 4: Narrative, Like, hey, positivity, buddy, we got the win, and 560 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 4: they keep it and because they lost, they they get 561 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 4: rid of it. 562 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't. 563 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 4: I mean, it just seems goofy and unnecessary. 564 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: If you're struggling as a professional sports team, there are 565 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: times it's understandable injuries. 566 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 3: There's times maybe. 567 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: Our schedule got really difficult, but Philadelphia's roster should never, 568 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: for any extended period of time struggle. It is like 569 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: the Rams. The Rams are literally too good to have 570 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: a four game losing streak. So again, I understand struggling, 571 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: Like you lose your left tackle and you have an 572 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: immobile quarterback. GoF you're like, okay, we can't pass protect. 573 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 3: I mean, Kansas City, this year. 574 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: You know they're defensively, they cannot get people off the field. 575 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: Chris Jones has aged quickly Philadelphia should not go on 576 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: losing streaks. You can lose games, you can't go on 577 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: losing streaks in Philadelphia. 578 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 4: You know what I want. I want somebody to put 579 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 4: some stick them in AJ Brown's locker so he catches 580 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 4: passes when it matters. 581 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: Scotland, those drops were bad. You can't playing about not 582 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: getting looks and then make drop and inexcusable. 583 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 4: Final story, let's go to another one right in your wheelhouse, 584 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 4: Sammy d Sam Darnald and the Seattle Seahawks. Interesting little 585 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 4: subplot here, Colin. So obviously they're ten and three and 586 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 4: they're going for the number one seed. They should smoke 587 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 4: the Colt this weekend. I don't know if Philip River 588 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 4: starts or not at we'll see. But Sam Darnald is 589 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 4: talking to the media this week. He's talking about the 590 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 4: offense and clicking. Take a listen to this. 591 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 10: Obviously coming off last week, just you know, the emphasis 592 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 10: I guess this week would just be, you know, continuing 593 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 10: to be efficient and be ourselves as an offense throughout 594 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 10: the entire game. And that really starts in practice with 595 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 10: our prep. But again, just looking at these guys, you know, 596 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 10: a really good team, really good defense, you know, really 597 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 10: good scheme, and they're players like I always kind of say, 598 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 10: but especially this week, you know, they kind of make 599 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 10: it come to life with the scheme that they have 600 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 10: and you know, we're excited about the challenge. 601 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is There are two teams in the league 602 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: that were not taugh talking about aren't getting a lot 603 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: of play among the I call national media, the Houston 604 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: Texans and the Seattle Seahawks. And when you watch both, 605 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: it's really obvious they have drafted extremely well. They are 606 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: fast and violent and aggressive and physical and intimidating. You 607 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: start looking at Seattle. Seattle's had six games this year, 608 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: Jay Mack where they've won by fourteen or more. 609 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 3: That's kind of what super Bowl champs do. 610 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: If you go back and look after like Philadelphia last 611 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,479 Speaker 1: season or super Bowl teams, you'll go back and go, man, 612 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: they forget how many times they carve people up. That's 613 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: why the Ravens have been so disappointing in the last several years. 614 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: They've been that team that blows people out and then 615 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: in January they struggle so you start watching Seattle and 616 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: I know this week will be an outlier because of 617 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: the Philip River situation Seattle. Their last three drafts, they 618 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: have hit on a lot of dudes. That's Safety from 619 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: South Carolina second round. 620 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 4: Guy, Oh, is it fair to coldm something of a 621 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 4: bully Cullen? When they go up against bad teams, they're 622 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 4: just going to overwhelm them. Because Zach pulled some interesting 623 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 4: stats here. So in a win over New Orleans they 624 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 4: scored thirty eight in the first half, six in the 625 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 4: second half. Against Washington thirty one in the first half, 626 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 4: seven second half. But then they alternate like that Atlanta 627 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 4: game last week, six six at half time. Then they explode. 628 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 4: I don't know ifs inconsistent the right word. There's the 629 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 4: number one team in point differential in the first half, 630 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 4: but a lot of that is against Arizona, Washington, New 631 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 4: Orleans and I was here, we go, we got them 632 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 4: on the screen here. Interestingly fourth quarter? Now, is that 633 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 4: because they're blowing teams out and they're not trying. 634 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: To spurs defend teams that have a three or four 635 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: touchdown lead at half? 636 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 4: You go in, what do you say the player they're 637 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 4: not not hanging fifty on them. Yeah, so they have 638 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 4: played San Francisco opener. They lost. 639 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: Just take out the Sam Darnold Rams performance because the 640 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: game came down to a field goal right like it 641 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: was closed. 642 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 4: It with sixty yard or something like that. 643 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: So take out Sam's game against the Rams. The argument 644 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: is that's the best team in the league. And even 645 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: in that game, how good you have to be to 646 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: throw four picks and your marching to beat what we 647 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: view as now the best team in the league at 648 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: their place was impressive. 649 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 4: I think they could pick their score here. Like you said. 650 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: Twenty four six, I am convinced Seattle will run it 651 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: short passing Darnold goes eighteen of twenty three. May maybe 652 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: ugly weather, get in, get out, get healthy Rams around 653 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: the clawn. 654 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 4: Seattle does close with after this Colts team. By the way, 655 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 4: Cole secondaries beat up No Sauce Gardner again Rams at 656 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 4: Carolina that's a long cross country trip late in the season, 657 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 4: and then at San France. So those are three playoff 658 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 4: teams to close. I want to see Seattle this week. 659 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 4: They're gonna look good. Let me see those final three 660 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 4: before I judge them heading into the playoff fair enough. 661 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 3: Jmack with the news. 662 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by. The 663 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: Herd Line News. 664 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: Eric Mangini last hour, Cam Newton's all upset. Are you 665 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: still arguing with Cam? You still got that thing going on? 666 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 4: How do I put this? Some people have told me 667 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,719 Speaker 4: a J. Mac stand down on Cam, come on, chill out, like, 668 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 4: don't call him out for his nonsense and his buffoonery. 669 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I thought his podcast is pretty good. 670 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 4: He's a nice guy, you know whatever. A little distracted song, 671 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 4: I mean it takes I believe belonging in the circular file. 672 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 4: You know what that is, right, the trash can. But 673 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 4: that's just me. 674 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 675 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: in noon Eastern not a Empacific on Fox Sports Radio 676 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 677 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 4: Play the Fox Super six NFL Challenge. Download the Fox 678 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 4: Sports App right now and enter for a free shot 679 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 4: to win your share of ten thousand dollars in cash prizes. 680 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: I got nothing against Cam Newton, but he was a 681 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: little ridiculous this week. He said it's a slap in 682 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: the face. The Colts did not call him. He's sitting 683 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: out there ready to play instead, they called forty four 684 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: year old Philip River. Well, first, Philip Rivers played for 685 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: the Colts, so he knows people in the building. The 686 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: Colts coach Shane Steiken was the quarterback coach with Philip 687 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: Rivers with the San Diego Chargers, so there's that may 688 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: have been La or San Diego transition, whatever. They know 689 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: each other. Rivers is also totally obsessed with football. He's 690 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: coaching high school football actually using the Colts playbook. So 691 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: the messaging that Philip Rivers has oh was sent is 692 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: I am totally committed to football. The messaging that you know, 693 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: Cam has sent since he's gotten out of football as 694 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: a podcast a TV show in fashion, which is fine. 695 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: But and the other thing is the last time they 696 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: both played. Remarkably, Philip Rivers was outstanding the last year 697 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: he played in twenty twenty, in ninety seven passer rating, 698 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: sixty eight percent, completion percentage. Cam Newton aged really fast. 699 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: He was awful the last time he played one year later. 700 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: And that's interesting and it's instructive because Cam was an 701 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: athletic freak. Quarterbacks reliant on athleticism age fast pocket guys 702 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 1: like Brady or Jared Goff or Matt Stafford or Philip 703 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: Rivers age very very well. So what that he got 704 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: less athletic? Brady was never hyper athletic. Either was GoF 705 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: either was Stafford. The athletic quarterbacks, you know, like some 706 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: are saying Lamar Jackson has taken a massive step back. Kyler, Murray, 707 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson aged overnight. It was inexplicable. So being better 708 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: in the pocket has many benefits. One of them you 709 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: will age well. Tom Brady yesterday on the show, talked 710 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: about that when you're older, you have to, you know, 711 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: be a little more intentional, so you. 712 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 8: Don't waste any time being inefficient in the off season 713 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 8: with your training or in training camp. You don't waste throws, 714 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 8: you don't waste workout. Everything is like with the real 715 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 8: intention to it. So I was very fortunate twenty three seasons. 716 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 8: I mean, I still think I could play now, But 717 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 8: it's just the thought of doing it in the commitment 718 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 8: that it takes. When you get older and you've got 719 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 8: the life full of responsibilities, it gets just a little 720 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 8: bit more challenging. 721 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: You see this for the record, You see this in 722 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 1: the NBA and basketball in general. If you're a hyper 723 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: athletic and not a great shooter. Steph Curry should be 724 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: able to play, you know, for a long time. He's 725 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: a great shooter. If you're really really athletic, Russell Westbrook, 726 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: for instance, you may not age as well. 727 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 3: There'll be a pretty quick drop off. 728 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: So you know, I Philip Rivers never relied on athleticism. 729 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: If he knows the playbook this, I don't think he's 730 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: going to be great, but they have a pretty good 731 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 1: offensive line. 732 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 3: What if he went. 733 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: Out and went I mean, honest, underneath throws went twenty 734 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: to twenty nine would you be shocked by I mean, 735 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: you think it's crazy. But they're you know, they're not 736 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: going to ask him to sit in the pocket with 737 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: this defense. They're not going to ask him to do that. 738 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: They're going to draw up a game plan which is 739 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: a lot of twelve and under throws. He knows the playbook. 740 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: He was never and you know he's been throwing every 741 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: day because he's at practice. So it's just fascinating. You think, oh, 742 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: it's going to be a disaster. Almost always, as a 743 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: rule in our business, we talk about this all the time, 744 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: and when we talk about sports gambling, if everybody is 745 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: on one side bet the other side, just out of principle. 746 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: This is a guy that was never dependent on athleticism. 747 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: He was a sit in the pocket, know the playbook, 748 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: fifteen yards in under. I mean, not all those Chargers 749 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: teams were great downfield, they weren't rolling the pocket for 750 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 1: this guy. So, I mean Tom Brady has said this. 751 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: I think he said it publicly to me. He could 752 00:37:54,640 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 1: play tomorrow. Cam Newton aged overnight. I mean cameraired early. 753 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: Once he lost his athletic fastball, he was okay from 754 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: the pocket. He was very, very inconsistent. So I mean, 755 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: I think Caleb Williams is a remarkable talent, but Caleb's 756 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: never gonna be a guy completing sixty eight percent of 757 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 1: his throws. 758 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 4: I mean, you. 759 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: Guys watch Kirk Cousins as a prime example. I mean, 760 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 1: everybody sold all their stocking Kirk Cousins. 761 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins never ran around. 762 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins will have nights, you know, he'll have Sundays 763 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: and Mondays. He had a Thursday game? Was it last year? 764 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: He just tore the league up. Because Kirk Cousins is 765 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: a pure, one hundred percent pocket quarterback, a guy that 766 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: I think is going to. 767 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 3: Age really well, is Jared Goff? 768 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,479 Speaker 1: I mean, Matt Stafford's thirty seven his back, he didn't 769 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: even go to camp. Matt Stafford's been the most accurate 770 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league this year. Why they give him protection, 771 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: good weapons. He gets rid of it quick. So all right, 772 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: here's the NFL schedule for the weekend. I've asked Jay 773 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: Mack to give me an upset. He can't find one. 774 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: I will say, he said, Minnesota Dallas, you talked me 775 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: off this game. It's interesting, and it's interesting for a 776 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: lot of reasons. One, I don't think I think they 777 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: have to play great defense to win, and they did 778 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: show signs of life against a terrible Washington defense. But 779 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have a pretty reasonably close game. 780 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 4: I'm just curious what Dallas does defensively, because you can't 781 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 4: match up man against Justin Jefferson with who you got 782 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 4: in the Dallas second. 783 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: And the secondary for the Cowboys is shaky, very shakes, 784 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 1: and you can't run on Dallas. 785 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 3: So they will throw. 786 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and an indoor game, not outdoor. We know, Uh 787 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 4: McCarthy really struggled outdoors against the Bears for three quarters. Famously, 788 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 4: I don't know they're gonna win out right, but I 789 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 4: think they're in the mix. And I like that Dolphins 790 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 4: game Monday night. Now, someone on the staff told me 791 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 4: that the temperature are gonna be very cold maybe snow. 792 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: What if Miami changes the calculus? We have the Miami schedule. 793 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: Let me throw out a thought balloon. So Miami has 794 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: played very well since they fired the GM. Yeah, like 795 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: very well. If they man handled the Jets last weekend 796 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: in cold weather, they looked sharp. They came out with 797 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: a point of view. You start looking at these games. 798 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: They can certainly beat the Steelers, they host the Bengals 799 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: and Bucks. New England could rest starters in week eighteen. 800 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 1: And let me ask you, what if Mike McDaniel win 801 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: seven of his last eight games. You know he's a 802 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: brilliant offensive coach, do you run him out of the 803 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: building with a new GM. 804 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 2: What do you do? 805 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 4: That's tough. The new GM's gonna won his guy. 806 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: Well, but my point is offensive coach, Yeah, he's pretty sharp.