Speaker 1: I'm good. How are you? Nice to meet you?
Speaker 2: Nice to meet you. I love the wallpaper.
Speaker 3: It's brand new. I'm so happy you said it. The
Speaker 3: reason I was a few minutes late. This is the
Speaker 3: first time I've ever recorded in this new space, and
Speaker 3: I'm feeling myself and so this is Valentine's Day, but
Speaker 3: this is my new wallpaper.
Speaker 1: Yay. I'm so happy you complimented me.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that I noticed that, and I love love,
Speaker 2: so of course i'd see that.
Speaker 1: Well, that's a great way to start.
Speaker 3: So I saw something of yours and I forwarded it
Speaker 3: to my team and said, can you book this guy?
Speaker 3: I don't even remember what I saw, so we'll get
Speaker 3: there eventually. But what would you say you specialize in?
Speaker 3: Would you your your are your life coach? You are
Speaker 3: a therapist?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: What is your background? What do you call yourself if
Speaker 3: you're on a plane with someone?
Speaker 2: Uh, Well, out there in the world, I'm known more
Speaker 2: as the mind architect. I don't particularly like the Monica
Speaker 2: life coach. I think it's sort of somewhat diluted, but agreed,
Speaker 2: the mind architect is something that I generated necessity being
Speaker 2: the mother of invention, I felt there was a void,
Speaker 2: and it felt appropriate that I'm re architecting people's in
Speaker 2: a thinking space. So my main product is freedom. I'm
Speaker 2: bringing people freedom from all of their limitations, fears, and constraints.
Speaker 3: That's interesting because another guy who's on the show sometimes
Speaker 3: with me, where do you live?
Speaker 2: I am based in Nevada in Tahoe, Okay.
Speaker 3: There's a guy in LA that I've known for literally
Speaker 3: I think twenty five years maybe, and he has a
Speaker 3: course called the Freedom Course. And it's not exactly what
Speaker 3: you talk about specifically, it's different, but the understanding is
Speaker 3: the same, where it's like freeing yourself from the normal
Speaker 3: constructs or whatever's going on.
Speaker 2: So who's the guy in La that you know?
Speaker 3: Maybe breckcast Okay, So he has a quoe he's on
Speaker 3: here sometimes about He's got all these different core confusions
Speaker 3: and these constructs that are interesting.
Speaker 1: You like him.
Speaker 3: So you're re wiring how people are thinking about everything
Speaker 3: from business to relationships. I would assume that relationships is
Speaker 3: probably a big bulk of it.
Speaker 2: Right, It is a huge pole anything that is to
Speaker 2: do with the human experience. I help people transcend correct.
Speaker 3: And it's funny because I recently was saying that I
Speaker 3: don't understand why emotional intelligence and how people engage is
Speaker 3: not taught in school. It's one of the biggest problem.
Speaker 3: It's the biggest problem that people ever face in their life.
Speaker 3: If sixty percent of marriages are going to end up
Speaker 3: in divorce and it's going to be such a traumatic
Speaker 3: experience like a death, why in schools kids aren't taught
Speaker 3: anything about emotions or how to deal with them.
Speaker 2: It's a great question. We could argue many sides. Perhaps
Speaker 2: it's because that's if you want to get into conspiracy.
Speaker 2: You know, that's the way that the powers that be
Speaker 2: get to control people. Right If people are not as
Speaker 2: evolved and they don't have the wherewithal to critically think,
Speaker 2: it's much easier to control. But yeah, it's a great question.
Speaker 2: Many people have asked me to create syllabuses for schools
Speaker 2: because of that very same reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you're talking about how people are using
Speaker 3: their bodies and sex, but it's not about how they're
Speaker 3: using their emotions, which is obviously more important than physical
Speaker 3: So what do you find the biggest problems are now
Speaker 3: in relationships? Like the biggest commonalities that you're running into.
Speaker 2: I mean, they run the gamut. You know, for women,
Speaker 2: it tends to the primal tendencies, the patterns that we see.
Speaker 2: For the feminine it's to be beautiful. For the man,
Speaker 2: it's to be strong. Right, these are deep in our DNA,
Speaker 2: so you've got the alpha male. So nowadays, unfortunately, men
Speaker 2: tend to be a little bit more on the boy
Speaker 2: spectrum right where they're still looking for acknowledgment, They're wanting
Speaker 2: to be reassured. They haven't had these traditional rights of
Speaker 2: passage that a lot of boys used to go through
Speaker 2: where they had to go out to the world for
Speaker 2: three or four days and survive and in more tribal terms,
Speaker 2: you know, become a real man. And in women, especially
Speaker 2: with social media, there's just an inordinate amount of pressure
Speaker 2: and stress on appearance and beauty. So I find that
Speaker 2: in relationships most people actually don't know how to relate
Speaker 2: because people don't know how to listen. They tend to
Speaker 2: just react. The primordially imperative of every mammal is to survive.
Speaker 2: And so whatever our deep traumas are based on our childhood,
Speaker 2: I'm not good enough, I'm not lovable, or I'm not safe,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be Okay, whatever it is, it
Speaker 2: creates people's patterns. That tends to be the thing people
Speaker 2: are relating to, not the other person. So relationships tend
Speaker 2: to be the conduit for awakening. But also, as you've
Speaker 2: seen a lot of dysfunction, So relationships are beautiful because
Speaker 2: they're the catalyst for awakening. If you know how to
Speaker 2: listen and instead of blaming the other person, see where
Speaker 2: you're being triggered by something, that's the opportunity for growth.
Speaker 2: But most people don't tend to look through that lens.
Speaker 3: So how much do you think people can really change?
Speaker 3: If you're you know, if your experience, people are always
Speaker 3: like if you if someone shows you who they are,
Speaker 3: believe them. These things that people say, Where do you
Speaker 3: stand on if someone shows you who they are, believe them?
Speaker 3: Is it different if they have the desire to change?
Speaker 3: Or how much can someone really change?
Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure. I mean I just did a podcast
Speaker 2: with a beautiful woman I don't know how she is,
Speaker 2: mid late fifties, and she like you had never met
Speaker 2: me before, And she's literally a different woman by virtue
Speaker 2: of the conversation because some of her stuff going to
Speaker 2: the surface. She is willing to look at it. So
Speaker 2: people can change if you're in the right audience, if
Speaker 2: you're with someone who knows how to listen and to
Speaker 2: help navigate some of these constraints. It's not very common,
Speaker 2: unfortunate because people don't hold that kind of space of
Speaker 2: unconditional love. They tend to just react. So yes, that
Speaker 2: expression of you, you know, if someone shows you who
Speaker 2: they are, believe them. I get it. But I do believe.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've had someone in my master mind who
Speaker 2: was seventy four, who was suicidal, and now she's living
Speaker 2: a life of complete vitality. So it gets harder the
Speaker 2: older we get, just because our conditioned patterns are a
Speaker 2: little bit more reinforced. But change is absolutely possible. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's the I'd say the foundation of my work is
Speaker 2: introducing humans to a different version of themselves.
Speaker 3: So two people meet and they really fall madly in love.
Speaker 3: They are just great together, but logically they may not
Speaker 3: be compatible, meaning they can't match it up. Once that
Speaker 3: sort of new car smell goes away, then they meet
Speaker 3: someone else, and that's more sensible. Like I don't mean
Speaker 3: to bring that up because I don't know them and
Speaker 3: I don't know their relationship, but the image of what
Speaker 3: it seems like is like there's Ben Affleck and Jennifer
Speaker 3: Garner who seems sensible and like and loving and solid
Speaker 3: and stable, but it seems like Jennifer Lopez is who
Speaker 3: he's the most alive with. And you know, and then
Speaker 3: so why does someone have to choose one or the other?
Speaker 3: How does someone find both in a relationship. Either they
Speaker 3: enter into it with the stable person and then find
Speaker 3: the fun or they enter into it with the fun
Speaker 3: person and find the stable or or maybe not fun
Speaker 3: but alive like that that electricity, because the truth is,
Speaker 3: I've experienced that electricity and it is so amazing, and
Speaker 3: it's sustainable, meaning for a while, like even on vacations
Speaker 3: and weeks. And I've also experienced the stability, which feels
Speaker 3: really safe. But I'd almost rather the aliveness, although it's
Speaker 3: torture when when when the aliveness is there but the
Speaker 3: stability isn't. And it's also torture when the stability is
Speaker 3: there but the aliveness is and it's sort of boring.
Speaker 3: You feel like you're really settling in a different way.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I write a lot of quotes, and so one
Speaker 2: that comes to mind is freedom without structure. Is chaos,
Speaker 2: and so you know that sort of speaks to the two. Right,
Speaker 2: freedom could point to the aliveness and the vitality structure
Speaker 2: could be the stability you speak of, right, and so
Speaker 2: without both, So it is a dance of having both.
Speaker 2: One of my more popular quotes that people love, I say,
Speaker 2: life will present you with people in circumstances to reveal
Speaker 2: where you're not free. And so whoever you date, you're
Speaker 2: going to get triggered where you're not free, meaning where
Speaker 2: have you not actualized and realize what is on the
Speaker 2: other side of your own fears and limitations. So, whether
Speaker 2: you pick the fun or whether you pick the stability,
Speaker 2: the good news is you're still going to have to
Speaker 2: come up against where you not free as a being.
Speaker 2: For me, the whole dimension of Planet Earth, this paradigm
Speaker 2: that we're in is to transcend the constraints with which
Speaker 2: we arrive. So in one way, everybody's the right one
Speaker 2: because they're going to push your buttons in whatever way
Speaker 2: is appropriate for you. And that's the good news. Right.
Speaker 2: If you're committed to a relationship, that is that's the
Speaker 2: main focus. Right, that people want to stay together, that's fine.
Speaker 2: But I interviewed someone interviewed me for a TV show,
Speaker 2: this producer, and he was upset because he'd gone through
Speaker 2: a divorce recently. This is a big guy here in Hollywood,
Speaker 2: and he was reminiscing about how growing up he just
Speaker 2: so idolized his parents because they'd been together for fifty
Speaker 2: years or something, and he felt like a failure because
Speaker 2: he'd got divorced after three Yeah, of course, And I said, yeah, well,
Speaker 2: describe the you know, dynamic of your parents' relationship, and
Speaker 2: when you get into it, they hadn't slept in the
Speaker 2: same bedroom for something like thirty plus years, you know,
Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, so success the fact that they
Speaker 2: stayed together and.
Speaker 1: Checked the box for like, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And so for me, I'm not interested in that. You know,
Speaker 2: where did the soul leave the building? You know?
Speaker 3: So that's exactly That's like the Jones is that everybody
Speaker 3: else will We just celebrated fifty years. That's your identity,
Speaker 3: that's your personality, But like, how are you living day
Speaker 3: to day?
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. Yeah. So for me, I'm much more interested
Speaker 2: in a vital life life where my main product, as
Speaker 2: have said, is freedom. So I want people to be
Speaker 2: fully alive, you know, to feel vital in every area
Speaker 2: of their life expressed. Yeah, and that's up to the
Speaker 2: individual to discover that versus we tend to point fingers,
Speaker 2: especially in relationships, if only my husband or if only
Speaker 2: my wife, you know, there's this sort of agenda that
Speaker 2: I would be okay if you know, but then you're
Speaker 2: a victim of life, and that's just not what I teach.
Speaker 3: So you're saying, if you have the alive thing and
Speaker 3: both people are committed, it's about the commitment, because you
Speaker 3: could find your way through anything, but it has to
Speaker 3: be the level of commitment to then be able to
Speaker 3: do the work, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2: That's definitely one of the biggest components, and especially sadly
Speaker 2: from the male side, and I can speak from my
Speaker 2: own experience, I think women are much better at being
Speaker 2: all in and fully committed. I think it's part of
Speaker 2: the DNA in the biology of a woman to want
Speaker 2: to be you know, associated and aligned with a partner.
Speaker 2: I think men tend to be a little bit more
Speaker 2: skittish and scared and they don't fully commit, which ironically
Speaker 2: then becomes a vicious cycle. Right because one of the
Speaker 2: primordial things that a woman wants his safety, and if,
Speaker 2: as the intuitive beings that you are, you don't feel
Speaker 2: held or safe in the presence of your man because
Speaker 2: he's not fully committed, that's when more of these masculine
Speaker 2: tendencies come out, and the feminine or you know, the
Speaker 2: guys will be like, oh, well, she's just so naggy
Speaker 2: and she's such a bitch. I'm like, well, chances are
Speaker 2: you're not fully committed, so she doesn't feel safe. So
Speaker 2: commitment is, I would say, much more incumbent upon the
Speaker 2: masculine to hold that container.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. I like that.
Speaker 3: I think that's interesting, and I think it's like to
Speaker 3: break it down that commitment is the is the most
Speaker 3: important thing because even in business, if you want it
Speaker 3: and you have a good product, it's going to be
Speaker 3: really hard to be successful. But if you're committed to it,
Speaker 3: you probably could do it if you have a good product,
Speaker 3: and the alive relationship is the good product. So that's
Speaker 3: This is something that I've been talking about a bit
Speaker 3: because I think it's a I think it's actually what's
Speaker 3: it called when like something's chronic, it's like an epidemic. Okay,
Speaker 3: I think this is a relationship epidemic that no one
Speaker 3: talks about. And I think it's really interesting because I've
Speaker 3: now seen it in the wild so many times. So
Speaker 3: I was on a girl's podcast yesterday. Young girl. Obviously
Speaker 3: she doesn't know it. I didn't know until it was
Speaker 3: fifty four, but I was explaining it to her because
Speaker 3: she's the one who needs to hear it at twenty four.
Speaker 3: So the young girls are being marketed the ring, the wedding,
Speaker 3: the honeymoon, get the this, get the that, And in
Speaker 3: many cases it's sort of like a calling card to
Speaker 3: say to your other friends, like no, I don't really work.
Speaker 3: He doesn't really want me to work and to go
Speaker 3: out and shop and go to lunch. And it sounds
Speaker 3: in the moment like I'm being judgmental about it. And
Speaker 3: let's say, for the sake of this conversation, I'm not
Speaker 3: being judgmental about You can want whatever you want. You're
Speaker 3: allowed to want to be home, to eat bombbonds, whatever
Speaker 3: you want to do. You could want to be a
Speaker 3: mom at home, whatever it is. You want a shop
Speaker 3: all day. I don't care what anyone else does. Okay,
Speaker 3: here's what I've found, and it's crazy. So I've been
Speaker 3: meeting men that are in their fifties on the average,
Speaker 3: some of the late forties, some are sixties, but like,
Speaker 3: on the average, in their fifties. Out of ten men,
Speaker 3: because I'm taking the last several years of my dating era,
Speaker 3: out of ten men, I have met four men that
Speaker 3: have all that I've seen have all have full custody
Speaker 3: of multiple children, like three four, two to four children. Okay, prime,
Speaker 3: they have sole custody. The wife who was very much involved,
Speaker 3: who they had a nice marriage with, has gone off
Speaker 3: the deep end, either drinking or pills or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: And I said to two of them, I asked, because
Speaker 3: I had a theory about it. I said, is let
Speaker 3: me guess? I said, So, you met someone. She's beautiful,
Speaker 3: You're you're the breadwinner, she's interesting, and this is what
Speaker 3: you guys both signed up for.
Speaker 1: She's not gonna work.
Speaker 3: She's going out of the French going to raise the
Speaker 3: kids because you have all these kids, and she's doing
Speaker 3: the costumes and she's being part of the community. And
Speaker 3: you guys are going on these great vacations and then
Speaker 3: the kids go off to school and you're thriving, you're
Speaker 3: continuing to be handsome and work out and successful and
Speaker 3: glow up in your career and be smarter and talking
Speaker 3: to interesting people as society changes in business and being
Speaker 3: an entrepreneur. And she's basically now the kids are grown
Speaker 3: and she's sitting drinking wine and popping pills and has
Speaker 3: no purpose. And each guy, even of all four, is like, yeah,
Speaker 3: and I told her she should do something. She should
Speaker 3: own a store to start a charity, which is like
Speaker 3: literally so degrading and giving them a cookie because now
Speaker 3: it's like, you're fifty. The woman's fifty three years old.
Speaker 3: She's not as hot as she was, and now we're
Speaker 3: going to open a store for her and like hand
Speaker 3: her a cookie while you're thriving. And we got two
Speaker 3: guys I asked and described it like that. We're like,
Speaker 3: you're literally bullseye. It's really on both parties parts. The
Speaker 3: guy thought the girl was going to be happy with
Speaker 3: that business deal too. They both enter in. He thinks
Speaker 3: he's going to be happy with that partner, and he's
Speaker 3: born out of his fucking mind because he's nothing to
Speaker 3: talk to her about. And she's miserable because she's watching
Speaker 3: him succeed and she's watching women rise up and succeed,
Speaker 3: and she's sitting in a cul de sact, drinking wine
Speaker 3: and popping pills and she checks out completely because she
Speaker 3: has a breakdown. This is what's happened with four different people,
Speaker 3: from addiction to mental all of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you're not wrong.
Speaker 3: So what do you what do you what do you
Speaker 3: think about that? What do you have to say about that?
Speaker 3: About the constructs being set up in society for young
Speaker 3: women in particular?
Speaker 2: I mean one of the distinctions I make that has
Speaker 2: certainly appealed to and touched in maybe a little discomfiting
Speaker 2: way a lot of women out there, millions of women
Speaker 2: who've heard the distinction is I think one of the
Speaker 2: greatest qualities of being the feminine is your resilience. Right.
Speaker 2: The resilience occurs on both sides, like men are resilient
Speaker 2: in different ways, but I think the feminine of the
Speaker 2: two is way more resilient in your capacity to withstand
Speaker 2: everything from first of all, sadly the way you've been
Speaker 2: treated by men for centuries, but also just childbirth and
Speaker 2: child rearing and breastfeeding, and you know, women are tough
Speaker 2: as nails, right, Like I think it was Betty White
Speaker 2: who had that joke about you know, gross at of balls.
Speaker 2: She's like, balls are sensitive, you know, forget that, you
Speaker 2: know vagina right, that bing can take a pounding, is
Speaker 2: what she said, you know, to quote her. So what
Speaker 2: I've realized in my work over the last three decades
Speaker 2: is that that resilience for a woman, which is an asset,
Speaker 2: had a beautiful quality, meaning that you ladies, can pretty
Speaker 2: much withstand anything when it's coupled with the psychological underlying
Speaker 2: constraint of inadequacy, meaning that the woman feels somehow not
Speaker 2: enough right, not pretty enough, not whatever enough right. That's
Speaker 2: part of the construct human. But the coupling of your
Speaker 2: resilience with a feeling of inadequacy in the feminine leads
Speaker 2: to tolerance, and tolerance is very different than resilience. And
Speaker 2: so what happens is because you can withstand whatever it
Speaker 2: is fill in the blank, halm, abuse, boredom or being
Speaker 2: dis by your moralization, yeah, whatever it is that you do,
Speaker 2: because if it's in the realm of not recognizing your
Speaker 2: own worth and value, which again is a very common
Speaker 2: thing for all humans, then it turns into tolerance. So
Speaker 2: these case studies that you're citing you know. My assertion
Speaker 2: is that those women found what they thought was, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe a comfortable situation, but from a position of not
Speaker 2: honoring their own worth, and so they put up with
Speaker 2: which is the tolerance, and then in the absence of that,
Speaker 2: they don't know what to do anymore because they never
Speaker 2: nurtured that sense of self value for themselves.
Speaker 3: Right. And also it's connected to what you said about beauty,
Speaker 3: because I think it's based in superficiality. It's based in
Speaker 3: what do I look like? And I think it's about
Speaker 3: getting the guy. It's about the guy as like an
Speaker 3: asset versus compatibility. It's kind of like people are goal oriented.
Speaker 3: They just want to get the X and then they're
Speaker 3: sitting in it and it's not based on commitment or
Speaker 3: compatibility per se. I think. So I just think that this.
Speaker 3: I cringe when I hear these young girls and I
Speaker 3: watch them all over social media, you know, talking about
Speaker 3: wanting to get the rich guy and get to this
Speaker 3: guy is going to take care of me and all this.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like you're on a road to misery, and
Speaker 3: that young women just can't understand and their mothers need
Speaker 3: to be guiding them in this way. And I'm trying
Speaker 3: to do that and talk about it a lot because
Speaker 3: I think it's really important. I think it's affecting society,
Speaker 3: it's divorces, and it's affecting kids like all of them.
Speaker 3: It's like it's a major mental health issue.
Speaker 2: It is, And to me, it all stems back to
Speaker 2: that same thing which I just said, which is the
Speaker 2: absence of self worth, Which.
Speaker 3: Is the absence of self worth? Yeah, and then how
Speaker 3: much where do you stand on this is tricky because
Speaker 3: we can't belittle something that's real. But I a lot
Speaker 3: of people talk about depression and the over medication, and
Speaker 3: I know some people that have been on medication for
Speaker 3: years because of depression, and there's a fine line. There
Speaker 3: are people that actually are going to take their lives
Speaker 3: and that's a serious matter. There are other people that
Speaker 3: are just the words anxiety, the words depression and then
Speaker 3: medicating and one day decide they want to just actually
Speaker 3: feel something and go off of the medication. And maybe
Speaker 3: they're not drinking as much, maybe they're trying to figure
Speaker 3: out their levels through meditation, through yoga, et cetera. So
Speaker 3: I want to know where you stand on like the
Speaker 3: overall depression and being medicated for it, like a just
Speaker 3: throwing medicine at the problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm very outspoken about our sick care system. Right.
Speaker 2: We have a disease management system. We don't have a
Speaker 2: healthcare system. Right. If you look at the genesis of
Speaker 2: what it is to become a doctor, they learn structure,
Speaker 2: which is called anatomy. They learn function, which is called physiology,
Speaker 2: and then they learn what goes wrong with both, which
Speaker 2: is called pathology. Right, that's what a doctor specializes in.
Speaker 2: And so there's no education about health. So we've got
Speaker 2: to first understand that the system we have in place
Speaker 2: has got to do with health. There's no money to
Speaker 2: be garnered from somebody who's in good shape, big farmer.
Speaker 2: You know, they're a business. They have shareholders that they're
Speaker 2: accountable to. They want to make money, and the way
Speaker 2: you make money is by having sick people. So, first
Speaker 2: of all, I'm a huge stand for true health, but
Speaker 2: I'm an expert in health. If you're in a car accident,
Speaker 2: don't come to me. Sure you know, allopathic medicine could
Speaker 2: save your life, but it's got nothing to do with health,
Speaker 2: nothing whatsoever. It's like me taking one of my professional
Speaker 2: athletes you know, a baseball player to a new coach
Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, great, what's his coach specializing? I'm saying, oh,
Speaker 2: he specializes in striking out. It's like, well, why the
Speaker 2: fuck am I going to go and see that guy?
Speaker 2: You know, that's hiss Asinine is going to see a
Speaker 2: doctor because you're interested in health. So that's the first
Speaker 2: thing people I want them to understand is that putting drugs,
Speaker 2: you know, SSRIs or beta blockers or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Anyone's taking these statins, all of these things have got
Speaker 2: nothing to do with health. And more and more as
Speaker 2: it gets exposed, people are realizing it's actually quite the contrary,
Speaker 2: especially as it comes to suicide ideation. I've got a
Speaker 2: documentary I'm in that comes out in a couple of
Speaker 2: months about this family who sadly lost their eighteen year
Speaker 2: old kid who was a big rapper. I didn't know
Speaker 2: who was, but he's got millions of fans and he
Speaker 2: took his own life. And they heard my distinction around suicide,
Speaker 2: which to me, is a very powerful and potent time
Speaker 2: in someone's life, if you understand what it's actually about.
Speaker 2: It's not about taking your life. It's about discarding and
Speaker 2: letting go of quote unquote killing the part of you
Speaker 2: that no longer serves you, right, the thing that creates
Speaker 2: your constraint. So there is a form of death that occurs,
Speaker 2: but it's not to you the being. It's to the
Speaker 2: current narrative that hasn't served you since you were a child.
Speaker 2: And that's really where the depression lies, is that people
Speaker 2: are dragging the quintessential baggage from their history that hasn't
Speaker 2: been reconciled, and it's a heaviness. Anxiety on the flip
Speaker 2: side tends to be future orrent it exactly right. So
Speaker 2: one of my quotes again, I say past her informs
Speaker 2: future fear. So wherever we've had disappointments and pain in
Speaker 2: our history, than the brain, which is just to predict
Speaker 2: and protect because we're survival oriented mammals, is now worried
Speaker 2: about the replication of those things that hurt us. That's
Speaker 2: called anxiety. So I help mitigate both sides because if
Speaker 2: you can reconcile your history, accept things as they were,
Speaker 2: you know there may be some healing to do around it,
Speaker 2: then you equally mitigate any anxiety. So as long as
Speaker 2: you're in either camp, you know, you're basically screwed, and
Speaker 2: I don't mean that in a dismissive way, but there's
Speaker 2: no results that you're not going to human vitality and
Speaker 2: why people suffer is not because they've got a deficiency
Speaker 2: of SSRIs right, that's not how it works. You're carrying
Speaker 2: some trauma that hasn't been resolved.
Speaker 1: You're putting a band aid on a broken leg, is
Speaker 1: what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So sick care has got no interest in
Speaker 2: the vitality of a human being. It's about pushing drugs,
Speaker 2: which is fine, it's a business. You know, everyone who
Speaker 2: has a business wants to make money. But I want
Speaker 2: people to wake up and realize that we have a
Speaker 2: disease management system with beautiful humans. You know, people would
Speaker 2: become doctors and nurses, they care, but then they are
Speaker 2: inside of a system that has got no interest in
Speaker 2: actually the true well being of the human Yeah.
Speaker 1: I agree with you wholeheartedly.