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Speaker 3: We will answer those starting in the second segment. But
Speaker 3: before that, Jerry Jones just got off the phone he
Speaker 3: did with one O five three, the fan.
Speaker 4: Flagship station of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Oh hey, and there were some convos whoa multiple convos
Speaker 3: now I give credit to Sean R. J.
Speaker 4: Bobby.
Speaker 3: They kept peppering questions about trade, just captain trying to
Speaker 3: get somewhat and Jerry Jones did a great job of
Speaker 3: kind of deflecting a lot of that. But you can
Speaker 3: still read in between the lines that there's wheels turning
Speaker 3: whenever it comes to this stuff.
Speaker 9: There is And like you said, shouts out to those
Speaker 9: three guys because they were just hammering at it man,
Speaker 9: and he was just batting them away as besty.
Speaker 4: They were trying to get creative.
Speaker 9: And they even threw some names out there that we
Speaker 9: can't say on this wow, but he threw a couple
Speaker 9: of pass rushers out there, who's uh serious names have
Speaker 9: been tied to the Cowboys. And they asked him, yeah,
Speaker 9: he's Jerry hey yeah, And they asked him if he
Speaker 9: could provide some clarity and he was like no.
Speaker 4: No, straight up, he goes He's like no, yeah.
Speaker 6: They would be tampering if he did.
Speaker 1: And he did a lot.
Speaker 9: Of subterview as far as like when when Bobby asked
Speaker 9: him about the linebackers possibly entertaining the trade to add
Speaker 9: to the linebacker cord and he was like, not necessarily, no,
Speaker 9: absolutely not, but then you never know. And then he
Speaker 9: laughed and he was like, how's that answer for you?
Speaker 9: So that just tells you, you know. But when you
Speaker 9: combine what little they were able to pull out of
Speaker 9: Jerry Jones in conjunction with what one O five three
Speaker 9: the fan was able to speak to and with Stephen
Speaker 9: Jones about yesterday, they've been making calls. I mean, Stephen
Speaker 9: Jones told the fan yesterday that they had called the
Speaker 9: other every one of the other thirty one teams. Now,
Speaker 9: of course he painted it with the broad stroke of saying,
Speaker 9: you know, that's just us doing our due diligence and
Speaker 9: seeing what's out there.
Speaker 1: But they're on the phone. They're on the phone.
Speaker 5: But and remember their whole and so are you call
Speaker 5: in talking out that I can sprinkle that in there
Speaker 5: the whole thought process from the Jones families.
Speaker 3: A lot of times, especially when it comes to the draft,
Speaker 3: that they want the phone to ring. But the fact
Speaker 3: that they are being aggressive at least shows that they
Speaker 3: see the problem too, And I feel like anybody can
Speaker 3: see the problem. I feel like that's an obvious think, Steve,
Speaker 3: It's not hard to diagnose.
Speaker 4: Now, they see the problem and they want to find.
Speaker 6: You can see what they're doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it at least gives a little bit of
Speaker 3: clarity the fact that there could be something done. The
Speaker 3: weird part about it is now we're less than seven
Speaker 3: days away, correct from the NFL trade deadline. It's a
Speaker 3: week from today, right Tuesday Afternoonuesday afternoons.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we are.
Speaker 3: Seven days away and you'll have anybody less than twenty
Speaker 3: four hours from That's what's key Monday Night football and
Speaker 3: what happens on Monday against the Cardinals to then turn
Speaker 3: around and make a deal. Right, you're going into your
Speaker 3: bye week, which is good, ye, However, not a lot
Speaker 3: of time to make a decision.
Speaker 9: Well, you know, they said deadlines make deals, and that's
Speaker 9: rarely more true within the NFL than with this organization.
Speaker 1: Yes, so you know.
Speaker 9: Jerry was also asked if because he said Jerry did
Speaker 9: after the Broncos lost. He said that game in and
Speaker 9: of itself doesn't color their thought process as far as
Speaker 9: how they would approach the trade deadline. I honestly don't
Speaker 9: know that I believe that, ye, because I don't know
Speaker 9: how you watch that game and then say to yourself,
Speaker 9: you know, let's just watch that that doesn't really affect
Speaker 9: I don't see how you say that, But he did
Speaker 9: believe it.
Speaker 1: If you choose, dude, it's up to you.
Speaker 9: I don't But that being said, if I believe if
Speaker 9: you lose this game to the Cardinals, I don't see
Speaker 9: how you're not on it. If you're of the mindset,
Speaker 9: if you're on team you can save this season. If
Speaker 9: you're on that team and the front office is going
Speaker 9: to be on that team if they lose to the Cardinals,
Speaker 9: then I don't see how you're on that team and
Speaker 9: then don't get on the phone and try to make
Speaker 9: a deal at the deadline.
Speaker 7: I think I don't know, man, when you're looking at
Speaker 7: it microscopically, how we are week to week and you know,
Speaker 7: result by result, game by game. In terms of how
Speaker 7: they look at it, I mean, they're kind of like
Speaker 7: the benajeser It in Dune. It's like they think in century,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, you're thinking long term in
Speaker 7: this way, But if you're looking at the season as
Speaker 7: a whole. You haven't had a repeat performance this entire season.
Speaker 7: The season is literally what the Cowboys are lost, win loss,
Speaker 7: tie win loss, win loss. And by the way, last
Speaker 7: week you won forty four to twenty two. This last
Speaker 7: week you lost twenty four forty four.
Speaker 4: Yeah, almost completely flipped.
Speaker 7: It's you were literally admit you are mid right now.
Speaker 7: So it should be no surprise to them. They built
Speaker 7: the roster, they know the personnel. It's they're not performing
Speaker 7: to the level that they expected at this point. So yeah,
Speaker 7: I don't see how the Broncos loss could affect you
Speaker 7: in a way to be like, oh, well, you know.
Speaker 6: Sell sell sell or bye bye bye. It is the
Speaker 6: result of what you've built.
Speaker 7: So now you have to make decisions. The deadline is here, Yeah,
Speaker 7: but they've set up many occasions that everybody else's deadline
Speaker 7: is not necessarily their deadline. Deadlines make deals, This is
Speaker 7: absolutely true. But if they're not willing to in the
Speaker 7: next two or three days make a trade that will
Speaker 7: impact this team, what else.
Speaker 1: Can we expect?
Speaker 6: You know, it's well, it's up in the air.
Speaker 9: I'm frustrated. You have and you should be, as we
Speaker 9: all are. You have to do something if you are
Speaker 9: of the mice. And again, there are two trains of
Speaker 9: thought here, all right, So choose the train that you
Speaker 9: want to, you know, travel down the tracks. With one
Speaker 9: train of thought is season's over. Let's focus on the draft,
Speaker 9: keep your draft picks, build for the future, reload the defense.
Speaker 9: If that's your train of thought, so be it. If
Speaker 9: your train of thought is the other one, which is
Speaker 9: you can save the season. You don't want to waste
Speaker 9: the window of Dak Prescott in this play. You don't
Speaker 9: know if George Pickens is going to return for next season.
Speaker 9: You want to take advantage of this offense is five
Speaker 9: power while you can. You have to do something, so
Speaker 9: be it trade and or go out into free agency.
Speaker 9: You have guys in free agency, particularly at the safety position.
Speaker 1: I mean you news and notes. Would you like a
Speaker 1: news and note?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Your safety position?
Speaker 9: Now, le's talk about Okay, Well, Elijah Clark per Brian
Speaker 9: Schottenheimer is going to be out a couple of weeks. Oh,
Speaker 9: he just lost another safety. So let me recap. Malik
Speaker 9: Hooker is on injured reserve and shot. He said yesterday
Speaker 9: that this is not the week that Malak's twenty one
Speaker 9: day practice window will begin. So Malik Hooker is still
Speaker 9: on an I arm. Donovan Wilson missed last week's game.
Speaker 9: We don't know if he's going to play this game.
Speaker 9: The one year Thomas is now miss two games with
Speaker 9: my grains, and that's a real tenuous situation.
Speaker 1: We don't know if he's going to be able to play.
Speaker 6: The developing thing for him, he's.
Speaker 9: A developing thing and it's new to him. I had
Speaker 9: that conversation with him. So he's trying to figure out
Speaker 9: how to manage my grains because he's not had them
Speaker 9: until recently. So from a safety position, you have Marquise Bell.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 9: Were you expected me to continue? You have Marquise Bell.
Speaker 9: That's I mean, you had to put your nickel corner
Speaker 9: ready Stewart back at safety. So I say that to say,
Speaker 9: you know, I think you have to do a combination
Speaker 9: of things. I think you have to look into a
Speaker 9: trade scenario and you have to dip your foot into
Speaker 9: free agency right now. If you're of the train of
Speaker 9: thought that you can save this season.
Speaker 3: I think and just a playoff of your point, and
Speaker 3: I said this yesterday. With the way that we've gotten
Speaker 3: here as a franchise as an organization. I don't think
Speaker 3: anybody before the season was realistic, realistically saying this roster
Speaker 3: is an eleven twelve, thirteen wins team. Nobody said that.
Speaker 3: It was more like seven eight nine, depending on who
Speaker 3: you talked to.
Speaker 7: I was of the mind that you maybe get to ten.
Speaker 7: I was of the mind that with a healthy dapt
Speaker 7: pressout you could win ten games.
Speaker 9: But he probably also had Michael on this team before
Speaker 9: the season before.
Speaker 4: That's fair.
Speaker 3: But we also didn't anticipate the offense being as high
Speaker 3: powered as it has been.
Speaker 4: We knew it was going to be good.
Speaker 3: Did we anticipated being a number one, number two offense
Speaker 3: in the country.
Speaker 4: Probably not.
Speaker 3: But then you didn't realize this defense would be a
Speaker 3: bottom one, bottom two defense in the league as well.
Speaker 3: You thought it would be somewhat serviceable. And we've had
Speaker 3: that conver station plenty. So with all that to be said,
Speaker 3: how we've gotten here is now you're looking at Dak
Speaker 3: Prescott's window of really good football. And so I said
Speaker 3: it yesterday, you have to do something. You can't just
Speaker 3: sit on your hands. You're either going to have to
Speaker 3: build toward next year in the year after that by
Speaker 3: making a move that encompasses twenty six and twenty seven,
Speaker 3: much like they did with the Mica trade. Or go
Speaker 3: all in on your defense right now because your offense
Speaker 3: as long as you've got extra possessions.
Speaker 4: I have no problem on the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3: So I think you're at a corporation crossroads right now,
Speaker 3: a campaigns crossroads whenever it comes to how are you
Speaker 3: going to handle this? And it's like that a lot
Speaker 3: of that's going to happen over this next seven days. Yes, indeed,
Speaker 3: whatever this campaign is going to be for the Cowboys
Speaker 3: is happening between now and what is it, three pm
Speaker 3: Central Time PM Central town four next next week, next Tuesday,
Speaker 3: next Tuesday. So there's there's a cross roads that you're
Speaker 3: at right now, and you got to find which way
Speaker 3: you just decide to go down.
Speaker 4: I don't know which way they're gonna go. I know
Speaker 4: I would go.
Speaker 3: Toward let's not waste the MVP window and let's not
Speaker 3: waste what Dak has been doing throughout this season. I
Speaker 3: know he came off a bad game and there were
Speaker 3: a lot of comments yesterday, oh my god, it's Dak
Speaker 3: Prescott again.
Speaker 4: Stop it.
Speaker 3: He was playing at an incredibly high level use that
Speaker 3: as you continue.
Speaker 7: And if that's the case, what do you do right now?
Speaker 7: What two positions do you got.
Speaker 4: To get a pass rusher?
Speaker 6: Rusher saying so, do you trade for a pass rusher?
Speaker 10: Yes?
Speaker 6: And then free agency is that involved in your decision making?
Speaker 4: I don't know how many free agents that are on
Speaker 4: the street are going to just come in and be
Speaker 4: a not a passmaker at safety or really anafety.
Speaker 6: I mean, who I think you need?
Speaker 9: You need an impact guy at the edge, just need
Speaker 9: a stabilizer at safety.
Speaker 7: Now I need a linebacker, I need another innerback. I
Speaker 7: don't I need.
Speaker 1: I just don't see them.
Speaker 4: I don't think they're.
Speaker 9: There's one on the way that's kind of a big deal,
Speaker 9: and whether you like it or not, the expectation will
Speaker 9: be the expectation.
Speaker 7: I need about nine to ten guys on defense. How's
Speaker 7: that extra? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see. I don't think
Speaker 7: they're that far out. I know they're bad, and I
Speaker 7: know the statistics are bad, but I don't think they're
Speaker 7: that far out.
Speaker 4: I think if you.
Speaker 3: Get some level and resemblance of a pass rush that
Speaker 3: is capable of opening things up, then I think you're
Speaker 3: going to start to see the play of Dante Faller
Speaker 3: Junior take a step forward, the play of Donovan as
Speaker 3: a rock who take a step forward. Marshaw Kneeland doesn't
Speaker 3: have to put pressure on himself to be a pass rusher,
Speaker 3: and he can kind of just defend the run like
Speaker 3: he was drafted to do. There's a lot of things
Speaker 3: that will happen if you get one pass rusher, an
Speaker 3: elite level pass rusher, which is going to cost you.
Speaker 4: In the middle of the season.
Speaker 3: It's going to cost you, however, the safety position corner,
Speaker 3: whatever you do. If you want to trade a day two,
Speaker 3: Day three pick to get there.
Speaker 4: Then maybe you do it. But I don't think there's
Speaker 4: that guy just out there on the open market, right I.
Speaker 7: Would argue there's you could definitely improve by getting another
Speaker 7: guy in the middle, and not necessarily a pass rusher,
Speaker 7: because I think absolutely doing that would cost you less
Speaker 7: because they're not trading two ones for an interior defense.
Speaker 4: So you're saying do that instead of a pass rusher.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh man, I'm thinking.
Speaker 9: You got to have a password because that to Coyle's point,
Speaker 9: and I've said.
Speaker 7: If you can control the line of scriptage and stop
Speaker 7: the run, permanently.
Speaker 3: Defence from Oh, you're you're talking about interior defensive line.
Speaker 4: I thought you're talking about middle as in like lineback.
Speaker 1: That's so I'm fine with that too.
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that too, if you're controlling the defensive front.
Speaker 4: But the argument that I had.
Speaker 3: The other day, or the debate that I had the
Speaker 3: other day with Isaiah, was you've had the best interior
Speaker 3: defensive line play you've had in decades.
Speaker 6: And now it's not holding up.
Speaker 4: And it's not.
Speaker 7: It's not because because there is no threat of a
Speaker 7: pass right correct, one begets the other correct. But I'm saying,
Speaker 7: if you have another guy, solidified guy next to Kenny
Speaker 7: Clark that is able to stop the run, absolutely stop it,
Speaker 7: the outside will feast. I think I have a I
Speaker 7: have an inkling of opportunity there there because instance, I'm
Speaker 7: not forgetting about what James Houston was able to provide
Speaker 7: and perry On Winfrey like, if we saw what we
Speaker 7: saw from training camp and we saw from preseason, if
Speaker 7: he's healthy enough to get back this year, I mean
Speaker 7: that's a plus. That's on the plus side. If he
Speaker 7: gets back. I haven't heard anything about him, you.
Speaker 9: Know, same neither have I I would say that there. Yeah,
Speaker 9: maybe there is a point to be made that you're
Speaker 9: making in that there are instances where okay, if you
Speaker 9: drop another impact guy on that defensive tackle in that
Speaker 9: defensive tackle room and you put him next to Kenny Clark, Okay,
Speaker 9: I see where you're going with that.
Speaker 1: I see what you're cooking.
Speaker 9: But more often than not, you have to look at
Speaker 9: the fact that even when the run defense through let's
Speaker 9: say the first four five ish games, the first the
Speaker 9: run def.
Speaker 3: For Carolina, Yeah, run defense, or before New York because
Speaker 3: Breese Hall players say that.
Speaker 9: But now you're starting to see what's ha For example, JK. Dobbins,
Speaker 9: a lot of his runs were attacking that. Yes, absolutely right,
Speaker 9: So yeah, throw another body of the defensive tackle. It
Speaker 9: looks great, sounds great, It will work as far as
Speaker 9: keeping them from running ab but hit c right Chester edges.
Speaker 9: Your edges are not playing well in definit of the
Speaker 9: run and they're not rushing the passer. So for me,
Speaker 9: it's you know, you ask Osa to take the step up,
Speaker 9: Sally to take the step back up. So those guys
Speaker 9: plus Kenny Clark, that trio was doing work in the
Speaker 9: first four games. You asked those guys to do work again.
Speaker 9: But in helping them do that, you add an impact,
Speaker 9: not just an impact, but a game breaking pass rush,
Speaker 9: which then combines with that also helps your linebackers, also
Speaker 9: helps your secondary, shortens the coverage windows if you can
Speaker 9: get into more, and then the safety issue that you
Speaker 9: have depth wise and performance wise becomes masked much more so.
Speaker 9: Then if you say, Okay, I want to trade for
Speaker 9: this costly pass rusher. Yeah, I don't want to trade
Speaker 9: for a costly pass rusher and for costly safety.
Speaker 1: Fine, cool, give me up. You're probably as rusher.
Speaker 9: And then you go and get a capable, veteran proven
Speaker 9: safety to stabilize that unit back there. And now you're
Speaker 9: cooking or maybe like you do what KYL just say,
Speaker 9: you give a Day three pick away and then maybe you.
Speaker 4: Can fourth round pick and get you a pretty good.
Speaker 9: You know, you know what, because you're gonna get compicks anyway,
Speaker 9: and this team loves the fact that they have the
Speaker 9: compicks and you can find up those compics. So there's
Speaker 9: ways to make this happen. You just need to go
Speaker 9: make it happen.
Speaker 7: But I think there's no argument that you need extra
Speaker 7: pieces on defense.
Speaker 6: They currently do not have. And I think.
Speaker 7: That's that's the crux of it, and that would be
Speaker 7: the problem if a week.
Speaker 6: From now nothing has happened.
Speaker 4: That's where I'm at. You gotta do something.
Speaker 1: You can't just sit here before you're poking it with
Speaker 1: a stick.
Speaker 4: Yes, please just do something.
Speaker 3: And Josh brings up great points and he made the
Speaker 3: joke at the beginning of the segment of you need
Speaker 3: a corner, you need a safety, you need a linebacker,
Speaker 3: you need a defensive tackle, you need an addresser.
Speaker 4: They need all of it.
Speaker 3: But where is it going to give you the most
Speaker 3: bang for your buck right now with what you do have?
Speaker 3: And that's where I lean pass rusher because I think
Speaker 3: it opens everything up. I agree with you adding an
Speaker 3: extra three tech that can stop the run awesome, But
Speaker 3: you can't give up your entire future to try and
Speaker 3: trade for five or six guys on the defensive side,
Speaker 3: and wanted them to be included as a three teche.
Speaker 7: I'm just not willing to part with those ones quite yet.
Speaker 7: I'm willing to take fee. I'm willing to take a
Speaker 7: bet on a three or four or two.
Speaker 9: One of those ones, putting them in one of Isaiah's
Speaker 9: paper airplanes and I'm sending that thing and let's see
Speaker 9: what it hooks. And one of those AFC teams, see
Speaker 9: what it hooks the green Bay Green Bays base because
Speaker 9: it's gonna be And don't trade.
Speaker 3: Don't trade your twenty seven first. Please you don't, because
Speaker 3: that draft's gonna be nuts.
Speaker 4: All right. I'm with you. I have the internal struggle
Speaker 4: and I'm with you, guys. I think we're already together.
Speaker 4: Page there's something, do something. This defense is not good
Speaker 4: and you need to do something.
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Speaker 4: This is Dano in Florida. What's up, Dano? Welcome back?
Speaker 8: Hey, hey guys, how you doing great? Hey Hey, let
Speaker 8: me preface this by saying you're talking to a real
Speaker 8: pissed off fan at this point.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 8: And when I refer to the front office, I'm referring
Speaker 8: to one man and one man only, and that's Jerry Jones,
Speaker 8: who I believe his commitment to mediocrity is is outstanding. Okay,
Speaker 8: you're gonna wind up wasting some damn good guys on offense. Uh,
Speaker 8: he's done that before. The Marcus Ware is a prime example.
Speaker 8: Romo is a prime example. He's wasted their careers in Dallas.
Speaker 8: I've gone back and I've looked at a couple of
Speaker 8: Now I've looked at every game, and this is my
Speaker 8: grades on the defensive side of the ball d L
Speaker 8: A D minus linebackers, A D plus secondary and that
Speaker 8: minus coaching and F minus minus. You know, and defensive
Speaker 8: football any football. You know, it's technique, scheme, talent coaching.
Speaker 8: That's what it comes down to, and when I watched
Speaker 8: these guys, forget the scheme. I don't think anybody understands
Speaker 8: what Eberfoush is trying to do, At least I don't.
Speaker 8: And I'm of the opinion that he is a deer
Speaker 8: in the headlights. When you see him on the sideline,
Speaker 8: he looks confused. This is just me. He looks confused.
Speaker 8: He looks like, you know, he's not three plays ahead,
Speaker 8: and that's what it looks like. I was wondering why
Speaker 8: he hasn't gone in the booth yet to be able
Speaker 8: to look down at how he's being attacked, rather than
Speaker 8: being at field level, which is much harder to see.
Speaker 8: But so I go back to that technique, scheme, talent
Speaker 8: and coaching. Do we have the talent more so? Yes
Speaker 8: than no, I believe. Okay, but it's it's a bit
Speaker 8: of a rap shoot, all right, technique. You know, I
Speaker 8: watched these guys, and you know, back in the day,
Speaker 8: you know, when I was in college, if you got
Speaker 8: double teams, you got underneath that double team, you created
Speaker 8: a pile. You weren't getting blown off the ball. You
Speaker 8: wanted the linebackers to be able to clean up. Now,
Speaker 8: it's in college. At college level, I see these guys
Speaker 8: that get to a knee and it's almost the same
Speaker 8: type of the technique. You don't get blown off the ball,
Speaker 8: you get underneath the blocker. I'm watching guys the other
Speaker 8: the other week, not this past week, but a couple
Speaker 8: of weeks prior. The tackles looked like they're like they
Speaker 8: were lined up in the seat in the big gap,
Speaker 8: like outside show inside shoulder to tackle. Well, Jesus, you
Speaker 8: know my mother could run through that hole, all right,
Speaker 8: and like, and I'm gonna throw something out because I
Speaker 8: think ibra flu should be gone wrecked. Ryan, Okay, he's
Speaker 8: out there. He may be a bit of a wild card,
Speaker 8: but you know what he knows defensive football. He does.
Speaker 8: And I'm of the opinion, if you want to try
Speaker 8: and salvage this team this year, you got to do something.
Speaker 8: I agree, and I think I think again, and I
Speaker 8: think iber Flush has probably lost the defensive players. If
Speaker 8: I was a player, he lost me. He lost me.
Speaker 8: And so that's all I got, guys, I see.
Speaker 13: So.
Speaker 1: We love you, Dano.
Speaker 3: Appreciate the call as always, dan O, and understand your
Speaker 3: feeling for sure. Yeah, I get the frustration and I
Speaker 3: get there. He's not alone, by the way, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of there are a lot of fans that feel
Speaker 3: that way.
Speaker 1: He was cooking.
Speaker 3: He absolutely accept that there's a lot to unpack there stuff.
Speaker 4: Where do you want to start? You want to start?
Speaker 3: He talked about I know you wanted to say something
Speaker 3: about the talent level. He feels like, yes, the talent
Speaker 3: is there on defense.
Speaker 7: On oh, I think he was saying for the roster,
Speaker 7: but was it specifically he thought he was talking defense.
Speaker 6: I mean, to be.
Speaker 7: Fair, I mean he was talking about how the ownership
Speaker 7: has probably wasted you.
Speaker 3: Know, offensive guys offensive because of the defensive talent.
Speaker 7: I mean, I would argue that somebody's putting that together.
Speaker 7: You know, like there's a reason you have so many
Speaker 7: talented players on this roster. It's not clicking for a
Speaker 7: multitude of reasons, and you can't pinpoint it to one
Speaker 7: guy in particular.
Speaker 6: I really don't feel that way.
Speaker 7: And it's not that I'm getting paid to say that.
Speaker 7: That is my personal opinion. I think you don't have
Speaker 7: the personnel and defense.
Speaker 3: We've talked about the x's and o's and the roster
Speaker 3: building of this front office before with very much so
Speaker 3: clarity and ability and.
Speaker 6: Criticism about and praise when praise is due.
Speaker 7: It's it's it's an amalgam of those things. But genuinely,
Speaker 7: you don't have guys on defense that you don't have
Speaker 7: the personnel that is going to get you where you
Speaker 7: need to go, because there are players that are taking
Speaker 7: plays off. There are players that are not getting off
Speaker 7: of their blocks when they absolutely need to.
Speaker 6: I said yesterday the f you can't teach effort.
Speaker 7: No, how many times does Isaiah have to tell us
Speaker 7: this before it really locks in? Not and not to
Speaker 7: us because of course we're listening and we're watching tape
Speaker 7: and we understand these things. But to those guys out there,
Speaker 7: effort is not taught. You have to get guys that
Speaker 7: have that claimed.
Speaker 3: And he called out Jadavian Clowning for lack of effort
Speaker 3: on the R. J. Harvey touchdown run in postgame. And
Speaker 3: it's it's apparent.
Speaker 1: Like there were there were a couple.
Speaker 4: I mean, he wasn't alone.
Speaker 9: No, when you go back and look at that film,
Speaker 9: there are a couple. There's Kyrie Elam, He's one in
Speaker 9: particular on a couple of those Jase Dobbins plays. I'm
Speaker 9: expecting him to crash down and help, and it, I
Speaker 9: don't know, felt like you were trying to avoid no gym,
Speaker 9: like it was a business decision.
Speaker 4: There are multiple guys that are afraid.
Speaker 1: Of just like it was a business decision.
Speaker 4: I think are running back boy.
Speaker 3: I think our running back from Texas is also afraid
Speaker 3: of contact.
Speaker 9: It could possibly be I will say, you know, dan
Speaker 9: O cooked, he cooked in a lot of ways. I'm
Speaker 9: going to speak to the one thing he didn't cook on.
Speaker 9: This is why I was shaking my keep ricks ran
Speaker 9: away away, just keep him away. I realized it's it's
Speaker 9: the you know, the big name, it's the flashy name,
Speaker 9: it's the sexy name, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 6: And people know.
Speaker 1: It's the name people know.
Speaker 9: And Rex has you know, tried to leverage himself through
Speaker 9: the media over these past couple of that guy coaching cycles.
Speaker 4: Like yes, seriousness building.
Speaker 7: But and he's a caricature of what you'd expect out
Speaker 7: of a defensive minded.
Speaker 9: But I think what people are looking at when those
Speaker 9: who are on the Rex Ryan train, they're looking at
Speaker 9: the the yesteryear of res Rex Ryan. They're looking at
Speaker 9: peak Rex Ryan and I've said this, and I've said
Speaker 9: it before.
Speaker 1: I say it again.
Speaker 9: Time fades pictures for people. So what people failed to remember,
Speaker 9: they remember, Oh well he got Mark Sanchez and the
Speaker 9: Jets to the AFC Championship game. On occasions he absolutely did.
Speaker 9: How things go in Buffalo. My point being that as
Speaker 9: we sit here and have this conversation in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 9: you're trying to tell me for those that are on
Speaker 9: the Rex Ryan train and otherwise, Dan O, you cooked.
Speaker 9: But this is where I gotta, I gotta, we gotta squire. Respectfully,
Speaker 9: Rex Ryan hasn't coached in almost a decade. So if
Speaker 9: you want a modern minded coach, Shoe, I get it.
Speaker 9: You want the old school ball coach, great, you had
Speaker 9: that in Mike Zimmer.
Speaker 1: How that work out? Okay?
Speaker 9: It takes more than just simply saying you're a hard nosed,
Speaker 9: all old school spur your type ball coach. In order
Speaker 9: to come in and fix a defense that's this bad,
Speaker 9: you have to be able to do that plus modernize
Speaker 9: it to today's standards. Because offensive nowadays they are so complex,
Speaker 9: because and the league is legislated toward helping offensive score points.
Speaker 9: You can't just simply drop in a Rex Ryan who
Speaker 9: hasn't coached in almost a decade and say, oh, well,
Speaker 9: you know, fifteen years ago he did a thing. Congrats
Speaker 9: on doing that thing fifteen years ago almost anyway, But
Speaker 9: that's not going to fix it here. But what you
Speaker 9: will get is more drama because it's Rex. You had
Speaker 9: his brother Rob here. How that turnout? It was one
Speaker 9: of the worst defenses in the history of the franchise.
Speaker 1: Bless you.
Speaker 9: So I'm out. I could not be more out on
Speaker 9: Rix Ryan. But as far as everything else you said, Daniel,
Speaker 9: I'm with you on that. I don't know that I agree. Actually,
Speaker 9: I don't agree with the personnel stance. If you were
Speaker 9: in fact saying it's a defensive thing. So if your
Speaker 9: point was defense has to personnel, yeah, I think hockets
Speaker 9: they have the personnel, but sure they don't have all
Speaker 9: of them, which is why we're saying you need to
Speaker 9: I don't think they have a safety stabilizer or something.
Speaker 4: No, and I don't think they have.
Speaker 3: I said it yesterday, I multiple years now, multiple defensive coordinators,
Speaker 3: and we're all sitting here saying the same thing. You
Speaker 3: can't stop the run, and if you don't get a
Speaker 3: pass rush or secondary is a liability. So with all
Speaker 3: that being said, I think you just don't have the personnel.
Speaker 3: I don't think you have the personnel, and I don't
Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't think.
Speaker 7: One coordinator is going to change the outlook and the
Speaker 7: identity of your defense right here, right now now with
Speaker 7: the personnel that is currently.
Speaker 4: Switch your coordinator in the off season may not have
Speaker 4: that impact.
Speaker 7: You had an opportunity to kind of Keithson continuity whenever
Speaker 7: my gosh, Al Harris was here and he left, and
Speaker 7: that was you know, that was a choice to let
Speaker 7: him walk out the building when he had a rapport
Speaker 7: with the secondary as it was.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't a good choice, but it was a choice.
Speaker 6: It was. It was a choice to be made a
Speaker 6: choice on him. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 9: It was a choice on him for a reason. And yeah,
Speaker 9: I mean, we're not going to make this the Al
Speaker 9: Harris segment, but we'll just simply say that we gotta
Speaker 9: be careful because he's under contract with another team. But
Speaker 9: I will say that I do believe in hindsight, I
Speaker 9: have to word this a certain way, and I'm wording
Speaker 9: it a certain way for a reason put me back
Speaker 9: in the defense of the off season. And in the
Speaker 9: off season, I was one of several you guys who
Speaker 9: thought that Al Harris deserved more responsibility and deserved a
Speaker 9: look at defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: He didn't get that. Look. Now he's in Chicago, and
Speaker 1: I'll leave it there.
Speaker 4: I am all right. Let's let's hear from Mike in
Speaker 4: New York. What's up, big Mic?
Speaker 14: What's going on? Guys? What's frustrated about the Cowboys? Is
Speaker 14: talking about it for many years? When was the last
Speaker 14: time Cowboys actually had a good run defense. I have
Speaker 14: been watching this team for many years and that we
Speaker 14: talk about it all the time. But it's like I
Speaker 14: I mean, I I know we talk about everything with
Speaker 14: the defense, of course, but the last time we actually
Speaker 14: had a good run defense just spent a long time.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, certainly what else is on your mind?
Speaker 14: I just like I said, I like like Jerry, he
Speaker 14: made his point on the you know, on the post game. Yeah,
Speaker 14: you know we need we need more than one player,
Speaker 14: so we we got we gotta do something. I mean,
Speaker 14: it's kind of you know, we got you know, we
Speaker 14: we just hey, the defense has to improve. We were
Speaker 14: were the worst defense in the whole league. Like I mean,
Speaker 14: I understand that we didn't. You know, we should I personally,
Speaker 14: we should have kept Parsons. We should have paid him,
Speaker 14: of course, but obviously money, salary cap and this and that.
Speaker 14: But you know, we got we gotta we gotta do something.
Speaker 14: We you know, we definitely got definitely you know, two
Speaker 14: Way Street, definitely definitely need you know, secondary help. We
Speaker 14: get all these injuries and this and that. Gotta do something.
Speaker 14: We got to improve some way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate your mic as always, and he brings
Speaker 3: up a point there is when it comes to the Micah.
Speaker 4: Trade, you thought you were going to be a worse defense.
Speaker 4: You don't trade an elite, all pro, possible future.
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame pass rusher and think you're going to
Speaker 3: be better on the defensive side. But to go to
Speaker 3: the depths that they have on that unit so far,
Speaker 3: I think that's what's frustrating about the whole scenario.
Speaker 1: Youah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 9: And I'll say this, it's interesting that it's a tale
Speaker 9: of two takes. Okay, because right now after the Michael
Speaker 9: Parsons trade, you hear the front office and you hear
Speaker 9: some of the fans kind of towing that line, saying, oh, well,
Speaker 9: you know you couldn't pay him and dot dot dot
Speaker 9: dot dot. Well you try to pay him, and the
Speaker 9: money you were trying to pay him would have negated
Speaker 9: the take that you have.
Speaker 1: I think it's just coping. Really, I think it's just coping.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean they were ready to pay him.
Speaker 9: They were made Yeah, Jerry made the offer. Yeah, substantial,
Speaker 9: it had substantial guaranteed money. So I just say, I
Speaker 9: just think that the uh, the regression of that conversation
Speaker 9: between the two and how things devolved and how it
Speaker 9: ended up going at this point, there's cope involved on
Speaker 9: both sides, not just on the Cowboys side, because michaeh
Speaker 9: is he's still talking about the Cowboys. Oh man, every
Speaker 9: every bit exit, yeah, bitter exits.
Speaker 1: It's just move on, buddy, move on, both of you.
Speaker 1: Move on.
Speaker 9: But the fact of the matter remains, once you chose
Speaker 9: to trade Michael Parsons the way you, you just had
Speaker 9: to know that your defense was going to take a
Speaker 9: step back.
Speaker 1: But again, you did not know what was going to
Speaker 1: be this and this is a good.
Speaker 9: Chunk of it is accountable to Matt Eflues, a good
Speaker 9: chunk of it is accountable to the players and lack
Speaker 9: of execution, lack of effort, business decisions being made, injuries.
Speaker 9: I mean, you put all that in the pot and
Speaker 9: you probably end up with the worst defense in the league.
Speaker 9: And oh, by the way, you do have the worst defense.
Speaker 3: Let me ask thank you this. If you were in
Speaker 3: the GM shoes in that moment and you could see
Speaker 3: halfway through the season to the NFL trade deadline and say,
Speaker 3: by that point we're going to be three five and
Speaker 3: one and the defensive unit is going to be historically
Speaker 3: one of the worst you've ever had in your organization's history,
Speaker 3: would you have still gone through with the Micael Parsons trade.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 4: I feel like right now you would say no, Right I.
Speaker 9: Would have said no before without the benefit of that foresight. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I would have said no because behind Michael Parsons it
Speaker 9: was a lot of hope.
Speaker 1: And go ahead and say it for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope is not a strategy.
Speaker 1: It's not a strategy.
Speaker 9: You hoped that Sam Williams, coming off of a torn
Speaker 9: ACL would have a breakout season in a contract year.
Speaker 1: That's what you were hoping. You were hoping that.
Speaker 9: Dante Fowler would replicate his career best success that he
Speaker 9: had with the Commanders. His most successful season with Dan
Speaker 9: Quinn with the Cowboys was as a rotational pass rush.
Speaker 9: So you were hoping that you could possibly make danteo
Speaker 9: full timer, you would get that replication, and it goes
Speaker 9: from there. You were hoping that Donovan Israku would hit
Speaker 9: the ground running as quickly as Michael Parsons did, which
Speaker 9: is an anomaly and probably not going to happen.
Speaker 1: And it's not happening.
Speaker 9: I'm hoping Marshawn kneland would take the stack all this hope. Yeah,
Speaker 9: that's not enough for me to look at Michael Parsons
Speaker 9: and say, Okay, I'm good without you.
Speaker 7: I would argue that it wasn't just hope, because you
Speaker 7: were seeing a lot of this at training camp and
Speaker 7: in the preseason. You were seeing a lot of those
Speaker 7: guys step up in ways that made you feel a
Speaker 7: little more comfortable.
Speaker 9: I think, just so we're on the same page, my
Speaker 9: point of view comes from immediately post draft. That's why
Speaker 9: I mentioned don Israku. Right, So I'm looking like June, yeah,
Speaker 9: or you go to training camp, gotcha, it's hope for
Speaker 9: that point forward before you see anybody take a single step.
Speaker 7: And my purview here is from training camp when you're
Speaker 7: seeing those guys step up in big ways and you're like,
Speaker 7: oh my god, is Donovan Azraku that dude because of how.
Speaker 6: Quick he's able to get off the line training camp.
Speaker 7: And granted, even Tommy was talking about how he's you know,
Speaker 7: he's right there, he's getting there, almost there, but the
Speaker 7: actual results aren't where they need to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said this initially, I didn't like the Mica trade.
Speaker 3: I still think it opens you up and gives you
Speaker 3: flexibility for the future. And when it happened this was
Speaker 3: talking about I'm talking about when that trade came down
Speaker 3: prior to the season.
Speaker 4: I said, it gives you a whole lot of possibilities.
Speaker 4: And they've already taken advantage of some of that.
Speaker 3: They signed Tyler Smith, they signed a Ron Plan, Jake
Speaker 3: Ferguson was already done. But they've got options to possibly
Speaker 3: sign a George Pickens in the future. And then they've
Speaker 3: got the two first round draft picks. Kenny Clark comes in,
Speaker 3: He's under contract for three years. All of the elements
Speaker 3: of the trade give you flexibility as an organization, which
Speaker 3: brings us right back to right now. You did not
Speaker 3: anticipate to be a better defense in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: This was a move for twenty six and twenty seven.
Speaker 3: But with the offense playing that it has been, that's
Speaker 3: where it's changed my mind, and it's like, you gotta
Speaker 3: do something now, you gotta do something again something, all right,
Speaker 3: we got to take our second break.
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Speaker 14: It's all good.
Speaker 13: And man, honestly, like you said, hope is not a strategy.
Speaker 13: So I'm being optimistic. But every day after every week,
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Speaker 13: I'm a huge fan of the show. Is my second
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Speaker 9: But man, he is so tired. But so are so
Speaker 9: many fans. There's just it's yeah. All you can do
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Speaker 9: this enough. Dak Prescott in the offense had a bad
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Speaker 1: The defense is the problem.
Speaker 9: The defense is who you have to worry about going forward,
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Speaker 9: at whether it be a trade and or free agency,
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Speaker 9: that you can still salvage the season, you gotta do
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Speaker 7: Let me just say that, like, granted, we're not here
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Speaker 6: It was a bad day at the office.
Speaker 7: It was the worst time to have a bad day
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Speaker 7: That throwed it to Jake Ferguson. Kyle was very obviously
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Speaker 4: I hated that throat.
Speaker 7: At halftime, and understandable because he was pressing.
Speaker 4: He broke it down too.
Speaker 3: He said he thought he thought the seam would be
Speaker 3: open over the top, and it's the corner play closer
Speaker 3: to him than he thought.
Speaker 4: And I was like, that's pressing that. That's the example
Speaker 4: of pressing.
Speaker 3: All you got to do is throw that throw it
Speaker 3: to the boundaries and get your three points and you're
Speaker 3: down by two possessions with the.
Speaker 6: Seven year old field goal man you.
Speaker 9: Got the problem is is number one And I said
Speaker 9: this yesterday. Don't ever throw that ball again. Yeah, that
Speaker 9: being said, I see the thought process. I think this.
Speaker 9: He won't say it publicly, which is fine because he's
Speaker 9: a leader in the locker room, but we can say
Speaker 9: it when you when you don't trust that your defense
Speaker 9: can get a stop. You know, for a fact, you
Speaker 9: can't trade feeling goals for touchdowns. So you know, even
Speaker 9: though you got three in your back pocket, you're probably
Speaker 9: going to press. And then what makes you press more
Speaker 9: is the fact that your protection was simply not there.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 9: So also a quick news and note, sounds like Cooper
Speaker 9: BB is going to be back this week.
Speaker 1: Per Stephen Jones to one on five three good Man.
Speaker 9: He said he believes Cooper BB will be back, so
Speaker 9: at least you get some reinforcement there. But the biggest
Speaker 9: thing is this offense. I feel confident in the same
Speaker 9: they will not have too many more bad days.
Speaker 1: At the office.
Speaker 4: Now it's going to happen the.
Speaker 9: Defense, though, I don't know if they have another good
Speaker 9: day at the office in them. When you look at
Speaker 9: the gauntlet that awaits them coming out of the by.
Speaker 9: This is why the Cowboys needed to stack as many
Speaker 9: wins as possible going into the bye week, because coming
Speaker 9: out of the bye that's pretty pretty nasty work waiting
Speaker 9: for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've gotten beat so far by Jalen Hurts, which
Speaker 3: is understandable. Caleb Williams, Bryce Young Bownecks.
Speaker 4: Those are the three.
Speaker 1: Who's blues to come? Who's to come?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, this week it's questionable.
Speaker 3: It's gonna possibly be Kyler Murray they think he can play,
Speaker 3: but if not, it's Jacobe Brissett. But then you've got
Speaker 3: Geno Smith, Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes, Jared Goff. Whoever the
Speaker 3: hell the Vikings are going to play in December. I
Speaker 3: don't know what's happening with their spot situation right now,
Speaker 3: justin Herbert who's having a career year. Uh, maybe you
Speaker 3: get a healthy Jaden Daniels and then you'll have Jackson
Speaker 3: Dart for the first time.
Speaker 4: So it's definitely.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's that that stretch where it's Eagles, Chiefs, Lions, Vikings, Chargers,
Speaker 3: Bang Bang Banks.
Speaker 6: Then the show. Dude, that was a terrible That's the
Speaker 6: worst thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 4: You lost that you lost the.
Speaker 9: Yeah, the smile of Josh's face is such a psychological thing, right,
Speaker 9: so it hurts so bad that your mind doesn't know
Speaker 9: how to process the paint anymore.
Speaker 1: No, so now you just start smiling.
Speaker 7: Can you read that list one more time, please?
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, Caleb Williams, Bryce Young and bow Knicks. Good God,
Speaker 3: now you want me to read the list that they've beaten, please.
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson narrowly champion, Jayden Daniels and Justin Fish he was.
Speaker 6: In the NFCY Championship last year.
Speaker 1: They did beat up on Jane who was.
Speaker 3: The last one, Jayden Daniels and Justin Fields Field they
Speaker 3: tied with Jordan Lowe.
Speaker 6: Hey, it doesn't Fields won a game last week.
Speaker 1: Da, I don't know.
Speaker 9: I mean, at the end of the day, it's what
Speaker 9: we're saying is you needed the first half of the
Speaker 9: season to have as many wins as possible because what
Speaker 9: comes to you after in the second half of the
Speaker 9: season is just the nastiest of work when it comes
Speaker 9: to your schedule, which is another reason why you have
Speaker 9: to do something if you're trying to salvage this season
Speaker 9: at all. Now, in doing something. Does that mean that
Speaker 9: you magically turn to you know, a nine win team.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I don't know, but I do know that standing pad on,
Speaker 9: what you have when you see what you have is
Speaker 9: the worst in the league as far as defensively. I
Speaker 9: just don't see how you do that and then look,
Speaker 9: you know, Brian Schottenheimer in the in the face and say, yeah,
Speaker 9: we were, you know, trying to set you up for
Speaker 9: success in year one. Yeah, there were moves that were
Speaker 9: made that you could look shoty in the face and
Speaker 9: say that, George Pickens being one of them, right, Solomon
Speaker 9: Thomas being to a lesser degree, but that kind of addition.
Speaker 1: Right, But if you if you.
Speaker 9: Fly through the trade deadline without Javonte Williams, absolutely Javonte Williams, because.
Speaker 1: We believe in Javonte.
Speaker 4: That was a sadder clap today.
Speaker 9: It was because he didn't get so many opportunities carries
Speaker 9: a right thirteen carries in a homecoming to Denver. You
Speaker 9: should have let him just there's no reason to.
Speaker 6: Nick had a good point yesterday.
Speaker 7: I was talking about He's like, at one point in
Speaker 7: the offensive huddle, they should have said, hey, remember they
Speaker 7: let you go and they didn't want you anymore. Anyways,
Speaker 7: We're gonna run.
Speaker 1: And give the freaking ball.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So yeah, so some thet them do is Marshawn Lynch impression,
Speaker 9: like sometimes you just got to run through a blank
Speaker 9: Blank's face.
Speaker 1: Should have let them run.
Speaker 4: Through their fist, should have let it happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Trade Deadline is coming. Do something one.
Speaker 4: Week from today. It's gonna happen. Next Wednesday, we're gonna
Speaker 4: we're gonna go talking to the Trade Deadline edition, and
Speaker 4: then Wednesday we're gonna be like, Wow, they did something,
Speaker 4: or here we go, they did nothing. Buckle up, everybody,
Speaker 4: we're going by.
Speaker 9: Quick shout out to Benjamin Perez. I caught you in
Speaker 9: the first half of the chat. What do I know
Speaker 9: about Demon Slayer?
Speaker 1: Stop it? So the movie? Check out? The movie is
Speaker 1: one of the best animey movies I've ever seen in
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 10: Hm.
Speaker 1: That was just ran.
Speaker 9: I had that filed away because I want to give
Speaker 9: them props for knowing about demons.
Speaker 6: What's the last movie watched?
Speaker 4: The last movie I watched it's been a minute.
Speaker 1: Was it the horror movie that you saw in Denver? Alright,
Speaker 1: then that'll do it for taking them Demons.
Speaker 4: The title was forty four to twenty four the final
Speaker 4: That's gonna do it for us?
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Speaker 3: Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yoman saying so long,
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