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Speaker 3: We've got Patrick Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez with Chris.

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Speaker 3: I'm Kyle Yeomans and since it's a Talking Tuesday, you

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Speaker 4: S yes, I say it's nine here.

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Speaker 6: He forgot about the bit.

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Speaker 4: That's what I was thinking.

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Speaker 4: That's Talking Tuesday. Baby. We're ready to rock. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Chrismer give us a call.

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Speaker 3: We will answer those starting in the second segment. But

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Speaker 3: before that, Jerry Jones just got off the phone he

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Speaker 3: did with one O five three, the fan.

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Speaker 4: Flagship station of the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Oh hey, and there were some convos whoa multiple convos

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Speaker 3: They kept peppering questions about trade, just captain trying to

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Speaker 3: get somewhat and Jerry Jones did a great job of

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Speaker 3: kind of deflecting a lot of that. But you can

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Speaker 3: still read in between the lines that there's wheels turning

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Speaker 3: whenever it comes to this stuff.

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Speaker 9: There is And like you said, shouts out to those

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Speaker 9: three guys because they were just hammering at it man,

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Speaker 9: and he was just batting them away as besty.

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Speaker 4: They were trying to get creative.

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Speaker 9: And they even threw some names out there that we

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Speaker 9: can't say on this wow, but he threw a couple

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Speaker 9: of pass rushers out there, who's uh serious names have

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Speaker 9: been tied to the Cowboys. And they asked him, yeah,

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Speaker 9: he's Jerry hey yeah, And they asked him if he

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Speaker 9: could provide some clarity and he was like no.

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Speaker 4: No, straight up, he goes He's like no, yeah.

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Speaker 6: They would be tampering if he did.

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Speaker 1: And he did a lot.

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Speaker 9: Of subterview as far as like when when Bobby asked

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Speaker 9: absolutely not, but then you never know. And then he

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Speaker 9: laughed and he was like, how's that answer for you?

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Speaker 9: So that just tells you, you know. But when you

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Speaker 9: combine what little they were able to pull out of

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Speaker 9: the fan was able to speak to and with Stephen

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Speaker 9: Jones about yesterday, they've been making calls. I mean, Stephen

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Speaker 9: Jones told the fan yesterday that they had called the

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Speaker 9: other every one of the other thirty one teams. Now,

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Speaker 9: of course he painted it with the broad stroke of saying,

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Speaker 9: you know, that's just us doing our due diligence and

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Speaker 9: seeing what's out there.

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Speaker 1: But they're on the phone. They're on the phone.

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Speaker 5: But and remember their whole and so are you call

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Speaker 3: A lot of times, especially when it comes to the draft,

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Speaker 3: see the problem. I feel like that's an obvious think, Steve,

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Speaker 3: It's not hard to diagnose.

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Speaker 4: Now, they see the problem and they want to find.

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Speaker 6: You can see what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it at least gives a little bit of

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Speaker 3: weird part about it is now we're less than seven

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Speaker 3: days away, correct from the NFL trade deadline. It's a

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Speaker 4: So yeah, we are.

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Speaker 3: Seven days away and you'll have anybody less than twenty

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, they said deadlines make deals, and that's

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Speaker 9: rarely more true within the NFL than with this organization.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so you know.

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Speaker 9: Jerry was also asked if because he said Jerry did

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Speaker 9: after the Broncos lost. He said that game in and

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Speaker 9: of itself doesn't color their thought process as far as

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Speaker 9: how they would approach the trade deadline. I honestly don't

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Speaker 9: I don't see how you say that, But he did

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Speaker 1: If you choose, dude, it's up to you.

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Speaker 9: I don't But that being said, if I believe if

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Speaker 9: how you're not on it. If you're of the mindset,

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Speaker 9: if you're on team you can save this season. If

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Speaker 9: to be on that team if they lose to the Cardinals,

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Speaker 9: then I don't see how you're on that team and

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Speaker 9: then don't get on the phone and try to make

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Speaker 7: I think I don't know, man, when you're looking at

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Speaker 7: the benajeser It in Dune. It's like they think in century,

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Speaker 7: you know what I mean, you're thinking long term in

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Speaker 7: this way, But if you're looking at the season as

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Speaker 7: a whole. You haven't had a repeat performance this entire season.

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Speaker 7: The season is literally what the Cowboys are lost, win loss,

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Speaker 7: It's you were literally admit you are mid right now.

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Speaker 7: So it should be no surprise to them. They built

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Speaker 7: I don't see how the Broncos loss could affect you

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Speaker 6: Sell sell sell or bye bye bye. It is the

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Speaker 7: So now you have to make decisions. The deadline is here, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: but they've set up many occasions that everybody else's deadline

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Speaker 7: is not necessarily their deadline. Deadlines make deals, This is

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Speaker 7: absolutely true. But if they're not willing to in the

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Speaker 7: next two or three days make a trade that will

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Speaker 1: Can we expect?

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Speaker 6: You know, it's well, it's up in the air.

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Speaker 9: I'm frustrated. You have and you should be, as we

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Speaker 9: all are. You have to do something if you are

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Speaker 9: of the mice. And again, there are two trains of

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Speaker 9: train of thought is season's over. Let's focus on the draft,

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Speaker 9: keep your draft picks, build for the future, reload the defense.

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Speaker 9: If that's your train of thought, so be it. If

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Speaker 9: you can save the season. You don't want to waste

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Speaker 9: the window of Dak Prescott in this play. You don't

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Speaker 9: know if George Pickens is going to return for next season.

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Speaker 9: You want to take advantage of this offense is five

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Speaker 9: be it trade and or go out into free agency.

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Speaker 9: You have guys in free agency, particularly at the safety position.

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Speaker 1: I mean you news and notes. Would you like a

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Your safety position?

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Speaker 9: Schottenheimer is going to be out a couple of weeks. Oh,

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Speaker 9: he just lost another safety. So let me recap. Malik

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Speaker 9: We don't know if he's going to play this game.

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Speaker 9: The one year Thomas is now miss two games with

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Speaker 1: We don't know if he's going to be able to play.

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Speaker 6: The developing thing for him, he's.

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Speaker 9: A developing thing and it's new to him. I had

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry.

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Speaker 9: Were you expected me to continue? You have Marquise Bell.

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Speaker 3: I think and just a playoff of your point, and

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Speaker 3: I said this yesterday. With the way that we've gotten

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Speaker 3: is an eleven twelve, thirteen wins team. Nobody said that.

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Speaker 3: It was more like seven eight nine, depending on who

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Speaker 7: I was of the mind that you maybe get to ten.

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Speaker 9: But he probably also had Michael on this team before

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Speaker 9: the season before.

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Speaker 4: That's fair.

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Speaker 3: But we also didn't anticipate the offense being as high

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Speaker 4: We knew it was going to be good.

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Speaker 3: Did we anticipated being a number one, number two offense

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Speaker 4: Probably not.

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Speaker 3: But then you didn't realize this defense would be a

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Speaker 3: bottom one, bottom two defense in the league as well.

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Speaker 3: You thought it would be somewhat serviceable. And we've had

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Speaker 3: that conver station plenty. So with all that to be said,

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Speaker 3: how we've gotten here is now you're looking at Dak

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Speaker 3: Prescott's window of really good football. And so I said

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Speaker 3: it yesterday, you have to do something. You can't just

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Speaker 3: sit on your hands. You're either going to have to

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Speaker 3: build toward next year in the year after that by

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Speaker 3: making a move that encompasses twenty six and twenty seven,

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Speaker 3: much like they did with the Mica trade. Or go

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Speaker 3: all in on your defense right now because your offense

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Speaker 4: I have no problem on the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 4: Stop it.

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Speaker 3: He was playing at an incredibly high level use that

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Speaker 7: And if that's the case, what do you do right now?

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Speaker 7: What two positions do you got.

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Speaker 4: To get a pass rusher?

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Speaker 6: And then free agency is that involved in your decision making?

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Speaker 7: Now I need a linebacker, I need another innerback. I

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Speaker 4: In the middle of the season.

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Speaker 3: It's going to cost you, however, the safety position corner,

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Speaker 4: Then maybe you do it. But I don't think there's

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Speaker 7: Would argue there's you could definitely improve by getting another

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Speaker 4: So you're saying do that instead of a pass rusher.

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Speaker 9: You got to have a password because that to Coyle's point,

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Speaker 7: If you can control the line of scriptage and stop

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Speaker 3: Defence from Oh, you're you're talking about interior defensive line.

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Speaker 1: That's so I'm fine with that too.

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Speaker 3: I'm okay with that too, if you're controlling the defensive front.

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Speaker 4: But the argument that I had.

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Speaker 6: And now it's not holding up.

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Speaker 4: And it's not.

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Speaker 7: It's not because because there is no threat of a

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Speaker 7: pass right correct, one begets the other correct. But I'm saying,

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Speaker 7: if you have another guy, solidified guy next to Kenny

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Speaker 9: Know, same neither have I I would say that there. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: maybe there is a point to be made that you're

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Speaker 9: making in that there are instances where okay, if you

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Speaker 9: I see where you're going with that.

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Speaker 1: I see what you're cooking.

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Speaker 9: But more often than not, you have to look at

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Speaker 9: But now you're starting to see what's ha For example, JK. Dobbins,

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Speaker 9: a lot of his runs were attacking that. Yes, absolutely right,

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Speaker 9: So yeah, throw another body of the defensive tackle. It

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Speaker 9: looks great, sounds great, It will work as far as

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Speaker 9: keeping them from running ab but hit c right Chester edges.

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Speaker 9: Your edges are not playing well in definit of the

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Speaker 9: run and they're not rushing the passer. So for me,

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Speaker 9: it's you know, you ask Osa to take the step up,

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Speaker 9: Sally to take the step back up. So those guys

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Speaker 9: But in helping them do that, you add an impact,

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Speaker 9: which then combines with that also helps your linebackers, also

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Speaker 9: have depth wise and performance wise becomes masked much more so.

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Speaker 9: Then if you say, Okay, I want to trade for

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Speaker 9: this costly pass rusher. Yeah, I don't want to trade

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Speaker 9: for a costly pass rusher and for costly safety.

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Speaker 1: Fine, cool, give me up. You're probably as rusher.

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Speaker 9: And then you go and get a capable, veteran proven

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Speaker 9: cooking or maybe like you do what KYL just say,

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Speaker 9: you give a Day three pick away and then maybe you.

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Speaker 4: Can fourth round pick and get you a pretty good.

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Speaker 9: You know, you know what, because you're gonna get compicks anyway,

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Speaker 9: and this team loves the fact that they have the

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Speaker 9: ways to make this happen. You just need to go

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Speaker 7: But I think there's no argument that you need extra

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Speaker 6: They currently do not have. And I think.

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Speaker 7: That's that's the crux of it, and that would be

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Speaker 7: the problem if a week.

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Speaker 6: From now nothing has happened.

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Speaker 4: That's where I'm at. You gotta do something.

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Speaker 1: You can't just sit here before you're poking it with

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Speaker 4: Yes, please just do something.

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Speaker 3: And Josh brings up great points and he made the

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Speaker 4: They need all of it.

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Speaker 3: But where is it going to give you the most

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Speaker 3: bang for your buck right now with what you do have?

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Speaker 3: And that's where I lean pass rusher because I think

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Speaker 3: it opens everything up. I agree with you adding an

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Speaker 3: you can't give up your entire future to try and

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Speaker 3: and wanted them to be included as a three teche.

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Speaker 7: I'm just not willing to part with those ones quite yet.

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Speaker 9: One of those ones, putting them in one of Isaiah's

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Speaker 9: paper airplanes and I'm sending that thing and let's see

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Speaker 9: what it hooks. And one of those AFC teams, see

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Speaker 9: it's gonna be And don't trade.

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Speaker 3: Don't trade your twenty seven first. Please you don't, because

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Speaker 4: All right. I'm with you. I have the internal struggle

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Speaker 4: Page there's something, do something. This defense is not good

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Speaker 4: and you need to do something.

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Speaker 1: I watched I've been seeing some good thanks totally.

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Speaker 15: They have some talent, you up, some great talent and

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Speaker 15: they got some fight hoping.

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Speaker 4: This is the year me too.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm Cody. By the way, I'm Travis. Nice to

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Speaker 1: meet you. Travis. Go Cowboys Go.

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Speaker 4: Cowboys make a new.

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Speaker 16: Friend based solely on their shirt choice. What would you

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Speaker 16: like the power to do? Bank of America the official

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Speaker 16: bank of the Dallas Cowboys, Copyright twenty twenty five. Bank

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Speaker 16: of America Corporation.

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Speaker 3: To Talking Cowboys. Back here on Talking Cowboys. This segment

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Speaker 3: is brought to you by invisil Line, the official smile

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Speaker 3: of the Dallas Cowboys. Were smiling through it all here

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Speaker 3: for Cowboy.

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Speaker 4: Patrick knows you Walker, Tommy smiling, Josh Rodriguez, Tommy smile.

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Speaker 4: What was that? What are we doing? Tommy?

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Speaker 3: Oh know, man, the screen shot yesterday and if you

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Speaker 3: haven't seen it yet, to go to Josh's Twitter, Josh

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Speaker 3: like close up to everybody that was in the middle of.

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Speaker 6: Our our wide shot to start, because you're talking like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was in the middle of like the open

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Speaker 3: so like don't yeah, don't don't need.

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Speaker 6: But but said it all my face said it all angry, angry.

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Speaker 6: And then Tommy's.

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Speaker 3: The only thing missing out of Tommy's like close up

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Speaker 3: headshot with was his teeth.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the only thing missing and.

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Speaker 6: A thumbs up.

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Speaker 4: Yep. He just come on, Tommy, come on, Tommy.

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Speaker 3: I did say, like I thought, he is the model

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Speaker 3: of consistency because I mean, every day he's just happy

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Speaker 3: to be here.

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Speaker 4: He's just happy to be here.

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Speaker 6: He's glass half full kind of guy.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely might go to what Melvin just said, and he

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Speaker 9: said the fantomly is splintering.

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Speaker 6: That's what we were doing for sure.

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Speaker 7: But I would saying it helps to not be like

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Speaker 7: a fan of the team, you know, because Tommy is

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Speaker 7: just going to work.

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Speaker 9: Basically, Ovin kind of kind of stews the splintering though

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Speaker 9: he's master splinter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. In the chat, we see Melvin.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, of the foot of the.

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Speaker 3: It's time for talking Tuesday. Let's start things off. This

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Speaker 3: is gonna be great. I love it when this guy

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Speaker 3: calls in.

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Speaker 4: This is Dano in Florida. What's up, Dano? Welcome back?

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Speaker 8: Hey, hey guys, how you doing great? Hey Hey, let

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Speaker 8: me preface this by saying you're talking to a real

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Speaker 8: pissed off fan at this point.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 8: And when I refer to the front office, I'm referring

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Speaker 8: to one man and one man only, and that's Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 8: who I believe his commitment to mediocrity is is outstanding. Okay,

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Speaker 8: you're gonna wind up wasting some damn good guys on offense. Uh,

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Speaker 8: he's done that before. The Marcus Ware is a prime example.

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Speaker 8: Romo is a prime example. He's wasted their careers in Dallas.

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Speaker 8: I've gone back and I've looked at a couple of

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Speaker 8: Now I've looked at every game, and this is my

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Speaker 8: grades on the defensive side of the ball d L

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Speaker 8: A D minus linebackers, A D plus secondary and that

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Speaker 8: minus coaching and F minus minus. You know, and defensive

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Speaker 8: football any football. You know, it's technique, scheme, talent coaching.

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Speaker 8: That's what it comes down to, and when I watched

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Speaker 8: these guys, forget the scheme. I don't think anybody understands

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Speaker 8: what Eberfoush is trying to do, At least I don't.

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Speaker 8: And I'm of the opinion that he is a deer

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Speaker 8: in the headlights. When you see him on the sideline,

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Speaker 8: he looks confused. This is just me. He looks confused.

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Speaker 8: He looks like, you know, he's not three plays ahead,

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Speaker 8: and that's what it looks like. I was wondering why

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Speaker 8: he hasn't gone in the booth yet to be able

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Speaker 8: to look down at how he's being attacked, rather than

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Speaker 8: being at field level, which is much harder to see.

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Speaker 8: But so I go back to that technique, scheme, talent

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Speaker 8: and coaching. Do we have the talent more so? Yes

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Speaker 8: than no, I believe. Okay, but it's it's a bit

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Speaker 8: of a rap shoot, all right, technique. You know, I

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Speaker 8: watched these guys, and you know, back in the day,

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Speaker 8: you know, when I was in college, if you got

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Speaker 8: double teams, you got underneath that double team, you created

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Speaker 8: a pile. You weren't getting blown off the ball. You

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Speaker 8: wanted the linebackers to be able to clean up. Now,

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Speaker 8: it's in college. At college level, I see these guys

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Speaker 8: that get to a knee and it's almost the same

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Speaker 8: type of the technique. You don't get blown off the ball,

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Speaker 8: you get underneath the blocker. I'm watching guys the other

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Speaker 8: the other week, not this past week, but a couple

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Speaker 8: of weeks prior. The tackles looked like they're like they

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Speaker 8: were lined up in the seat in the big gap,

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Speaker 8: like outside show inside shoulder to tackle. Well, Jesus, you

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Speaker 8: know my mother could run through that hole, all right,

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Speaker 8: and like, and I'm gonna throw something out because I

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Speaker 8: think ibra flu should be gone wrecked. Ryan, Okay, he's

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Speaker 8: out there. He may be a bit of a wild card,

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Speaker 8: but you know what he knows defensive football. He does.

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Speaker 8: And I'm of the opinion, if you want to try

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Speaker 8: and salvage this team this year, you got to do something.

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Speaker 8: I agree, and I think I think again, and I

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Speaker 8: think iber Flush has probably lost the defensive players. If

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Speaker 8: I was a player, he lost me. He lost me.

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Speaker 8: And so that's all I got, guys, I see.

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Speaker 13: So.

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Speaker 1: We love you, Dano.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate the call as always, dan O, and understand your

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Speaker 3: feeling for sure. Yeah, I get the frustration and I

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Speaker 3: get there. He's not alone, by the way, there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of there are a lot of fans that feel

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Speaker 3: that way.

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Speaker 1: He was cooking.

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Speaker 3: He absolutely accept that there's a lot to unpack there stuff.

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Speaker 4: Where do you want to start? You want to start?

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Speaker 3: He talked about I know you wanted to say something

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Speaker 3: about the talent level. He feels like, yes, the talent

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Speaker 3: is there on defense.

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Speaker 7: On oh, I think he was saying for the roster,

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Speaker 7: but was it specifically he thought he was talking defense.

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Speaker 6: I mean, to be.

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Speaker 7: Fair, I mean he was talking about how the ownership

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Speaker 7: has probably wasted you.

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Speaker 3: Know, offensive guys offensive because of the defensive talent.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I would argue that somebody's putting that together.

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Speaker 7: You know, like there's a reason you have so many

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Speaker 7: talented players on this roster. It's not clicking for a

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Speaker 7: multitude of reasons, and you can't pinpoint it to one

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Speaker 7: guy in particular.

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Speaker 6: I really don't feel that way.

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Speaker 7: And it's not that I'm getting paid to say that.

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Speaker 7: That is my personal opinion. I think you don't have

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Speaker 7: the personnel and defense.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about the x's and o's and the roster

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Speaker 3: building of this front office before with very much so

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Speaker 3: clarity and ability and.

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Speaker 6: Criticism about and praise when praise is due.

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Speaker 7: It's it's it's an amalgam of those things. But genuinely,

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Speaker 7: you don't have guys on defense that you don't have

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Speaker 7: the personnel that is going to get you where you

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Speaker 7: need to go, because there are players that are taking

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Speaker 7: plays off. There are players that are not getting off

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Speaker 7: of their blocks when they absolutely need to.

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Speaker 6: I said yesterday the f you can't teach effort.

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Speaker 7: No, how many times does Isaiah have to tell us

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Speaker 7: this before it really locks in? Not and not to

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Speaker 7: us because of course we're listening and we're watching tape

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Speaker 7: and we understand these things. But to those guys out there,

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Speaker 7: effort is not taught. You have to get guys that

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Speaker 7: have that claimed.

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Speaker 3: And he called out Jadavian Clowning for lack of effort

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Speaker 3: on the R. J. Harvey touchdown run in postgame. And

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Speaker 3: it's it's apparent.

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Speaker 1: Like there were there were a couple.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he wasn't alone.

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Speaker 9: No, when you go back and look at that film,

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Speaker 9: there are a couple. There's Kyrie Elam, He's one in

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Speaker 9: particular on a couple of those Jase Dobbins plays. I'm

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Speaker 9: expecting him to crash down and help, and it, I

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Speaker 9: don't know, felt like you were trying to avoid no gym,

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Speaker 9: like it was a business decision.

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Speaker 4: There are multiple guys that are afraid.

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Speaker 1: Of just like it was a business decision.

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Speaker 4: I think are running back boy.

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Speaker 3: I think our running back from Texas is also afraid

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Speaker 3: of contact.

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Speaker 9: It could possibly be I will say, you know, dan

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Speaker 9: O cooked, he cooked in a lot of ways. I'm

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Speaker 9: going to speak to the one thing he didn't cook on.

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Speaker 9: This is why I was shaking my keep ricks ran

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Speaker 9: away away, just keep him away. I realized it's it's

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Speaker 9: the you know, the big name, it's the flashy name,

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Speaker 9: it's the sexy name, etcetera, etcetera.

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Speaker 6: And people know.

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Speaker 1: It's the name people know.

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Speaker 9: And Rex has you know, tried to leverage himself through

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Speaker 9: the media over these past couple of that guy coaching cycles.

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Speaker 4: Like yes, seriousness building.

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Speaker 7: But and he's a caricature of what you'd expect out

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Speaker 7: of a defensive minded.

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Speaker 9: But I think what people are looking at when those

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Speaker 9: who are on the Rex Ryan train, they're looking at

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Speaker 9: the the yesteryear of res Rex Ryan. They're looking at

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Speaker 9: peak Rex Ryan and I've said this, and I've said

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Speaker 9: it before.

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Speaker 1: I say it again.

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Speaker 9: Time fades pictures for people. So what people failed to remember,

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Speaker 9: they remember, Oh well he got Mark Sanchez and the

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Speaker 9: Jets to the AFC Championship game. On occasions he absolutely did.

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Speaker 9: How things go in Buffalo. My point being that as

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Speaker 9: we sit here and have this conversation in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 9: you're trying to tell me for those that are on

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Speaker 9: the Rex Ryan train and otherwise, Dan O, you cooked.

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Speaker 9: But this is where I gotta, I gotta, we gotta squire. Respectfully,

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Speaker 9: Rex Ryan hasn't coached in almost a decade. So if

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Speaker 9: you want a modern minded coach, Shoe, I get it.

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Speaker 9: You want the old school ball coach, great, you had

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Speaker 9: that in Mike Zimmer.

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Speaker 1: How that work out? Okay?

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Speaker 9: It takes more than just simply saying you're a hard nosed,

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Speaker 9: all old school spur your type ball coach. In order

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Speaker 9: to come in and fix a defense that's this bad,

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Speaker 9: you have to be able to do that plus modernize

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Speaker 9: it to today's standards. Because offensive nowadays they are so complex,

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Speaker 9: because and the league is legislated toward helping offensive score points.

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Speaker 9: You can't just simply drop in a Rex Ryan who

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Speaker 9: hasn't coached in almost a decade and say, oh, well,

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Speaker 9: you know, fifteen years ago he did a thing. Congrats

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Speaker 9: on doing that thing fifteen years ago almost anyway, But

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Speaker 9: that's not going to fix it here. But what you

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Speaker 9: will get is more drama because it's Rex. You had

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Speaker 9: his brother Rob here. How that turnout? It was one

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Speaker 9: of the worst defenses in the history of the franchise.

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Speaker 1: Bless you.

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Speaker 9: So I'm out. I could not be more out on

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Speaker 9: Rix Ryan. But as far as everything else you said, Daniel,

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Speaker 9: I'm with you on that. I don't know that I agree. Actually,

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Speaker 9: I don't agree with the personnel stance. If you were

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Speaker 9: in fact saying it's a defensive thing. So if your

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Speaker 9: point was defense has to personnel, yeah, I think hockets

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Speaker 9: they have the personnel, but sure they don't have all

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Speaker 9: of them, which is why we're saying you need to

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Speaker 9: I don't think they have a safety stabilizer or something.

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Speaker 4: No, and I don't think they have.

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Speaker 3: I said it yesterday, I multiple years now, multiple defensive coordinators,

671
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Speaker 3: and we're all sitting here saying the same thing. You

672
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Speaker 3: can't stop the run, and if you don't get a

673
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Speaker 3: pass rush or secondary is a liability. So with all

674
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Speaker 3: that being said, I think you just don't have the personnel.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you have the personnel, and I don't

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Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't think.

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Speaker 7: One coordinator is going to change the outlook and the

679
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Speaker 7: identity of your defense right here, right now now with

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Speaker 7: the personnel that is currently.

681
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Speaker 4: Switch your coordinator in the off season may not have

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Speaker 4: that impact.

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Speaker 7: You had an opportunity to kind of Keithson continuity whenever

684
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Speaker 7: my gosh, Al Harris was here and he left, and

685
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Speaker 7: that was you know, that was a choice to let

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Speaker 7: him walk out the building when he had a rapport

687
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Speaker 7: with the secondary as it was.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't a good choice, but it was a choice.

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Speaker 6: It was. It was a choice to be made a

690
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Speaker 6: choice on him. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 9: It was a choice on him for a reason. And yeah,

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Speaker 9: I mean, we're not going to make this the Al

693
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Speaker 9: Harris segment, but we'll just simply say that we gotta

694
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Speaker 9: be careful because he's under contract with another team. But

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Speaker 9: I will say that I do believe in hindsight, I

696
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Speaker 9: have to word this a certain way, and I'm wording

697
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Speaker 9: it a certain way for a reason put me back

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Speaker 9: in the defense of the off season. And in the

699
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Speaker 9: off season, I was one of several you guys who

700
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Speaker 9: thought that Al Harris deserved more responsibility and deserved a

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Speaker 9: look at defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: He didn't get that. Look. Now he's in Chicago, and

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Speaker 1: I'll leave it there.

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Speaker 4: I am all right. Let's let's hear from Mike in

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Speaker 4: New York. What's up, big Mic?

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Speaker 14: What's going on? Guys? What's frustrated about the Cowboys? Is

707
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 14: talking about it for many years? When was the last

708
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 14: time Cowboys actually had a good run defense. I have

709
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Speaker 14: been watching this team for many years and that we

710
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Speaker 14: talk about it all the time. But it's like I

711
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Speaker 14: I mean, I I know we talk about everything with

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Speaker 14: the defense, of course, but the last time we actually

713
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Speaker 14: had a good run defense just spent a long time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, certainly what else is on your mind?

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Speaker 14: I just like I said, I like like Jerry, he

716
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Speaker 14: made his point on the you know, on the post game. Yeah,

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Speaker 14: you know we need we need more than one player,

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Speaker 14: so we we got we gotta do something. I mean,

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Speaker 14: it's kind of you know, we got you know, we

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Speaker 14: we just hey, the defense has to improve. We were

721
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Speaker 14: were the worst defense in the whole league. Like I mean,

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Speaker 14: I understand that we didn't. You know, we should I personally,

723
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Speaker 14: we should have kept Parsons. We should have paid him,

724
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Speaker 14: of course, but obviously money, salary cap and this and that.

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Speaker 14: But you know, we got we gotta we gotta do something.

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Speaker 14: We you know, we definitely got definitely you know, two

727
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Speaker 14: Way Street, definitely definitely need you know, secondary help. We

728
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Speaker 14: get all these injuries and this and that. Gotta do something.

729
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 14: We got to improve some way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate your mic as always, and he brings

731
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Speaker 3: up a point there is when it comes to the Micah.

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Speaker 4: Trade, you thought you were going to be a worse defense.

733
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Speaker 4: You don't trade an elite, all pro, possible future.

734
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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame pass rusher and think you're going to

735
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Speaker 3: be better on the defensive side. But to go to

736
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Speaker 3: the depths that they have on that unit so far,

737
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Speaker 3: I think that's what's frustrating about the whole scenario.

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Speaker 1: Youah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 9: And I'll say this, it's interesting that it's a tale

740
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Speaker 9: of two takes. Okay, because right now after the Michael

741
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 9: Parsons trade, you hear the front office and you hear

742
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Speaker 9: some of the fans kind of towing that line, saying, oh, well,

743
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Speaker 9: you know you couldn't pay him and dot dot dot

744
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Speaker 9: dot dot. Well you try to pay him, and the

745
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 9: money you were trying to pay him would have negated

746
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Speaker 9: the take that you have.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just coping. Really, I think it's just coping.

748
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean they were ready to pay him.

749
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Speaker 9: They were made Yeah, Jerry made the offer. Yeah, substantial,

750
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Speaker 9: it had substantial guaranteed money. So I just say, I

751
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Speaker 9: just think that the uh, the regression of that conversation

752
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 9: between the two and how things devolved and how it

753
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 9: ended up going at this point, there's cope involved on

754
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 9: both sides, not just on the Cowboys side, because michaeh

755
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 9: is he's still talking about the Cowboys. Oh man, every

756
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 9: every bit exit, yeah, bitter exits.

757
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: It's just move on, buddy, move on, both of you.

758
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Speaker 1: Move on.

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Speaker 9: But the fact of the matter remains, once you chose

760
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 9: to trade Michael Parsons the way you, you just had

761
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 9: to know that your defense was going to take a

762
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Speaker 9: step back.

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Speaker 1: But again, you did not know what was going to

764
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Speaker 1: be this and this is a good.

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Speaker 9: Chunk of it is accountable to Matt Eflues, a good

766
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Speaker 9: chunk of it is accountable to the players and lack

767
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Speaker 9: of execution, lack of effort, business decisions being made, injuries.

768
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Speaker 9: I mean, you put all that in the pot and

769
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Speaker 9: you probably end up with the worst defense in the league.

770
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Speaker 9: And oh, by the way, you do have the worst defense.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask thank you this. If you were in

772
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Speaker 3: the GM shoes in that moment and you could see

773
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Speaker 3: halfway through the season to the NFL trade deadline and say,

774
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Speaker 3: by that point we're going to be three five and

775
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 3: one and the defensive unit is going to be historically

776
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Speaker 3: one of the worst you've ever had in your organization's history,

777
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 3: would you have still gone through with the Micael Parsons trade.

778
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Speaker 10: No.

779
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Speaker 4: I feel like right now you would say no, Right I.

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Speaker 9: Would have said no before without the benefit of that foresight. Yeah,

781
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Speaker 9: I would have said no because behind Michael Parsons it

782
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 9: was a lot of hope.

783
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Speaker 1: And go ahead and say it for me.

784
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope is not a strategy.

785
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Speaker 1: It's not a strategy.

786
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 9: You hoped that Sam Williams, coming off of a torn

787
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 9: ACL would have a breakout season in a contract year.

788
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Speaker 1: That's what you were hoping. You were hoping that.

789
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 9: Dante Fowler would replicate his career best success that he

790
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 9: had with the Commanders. His most successful season with Dan

791
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 9: Quinn with the Cowboys was as a rotational pass rush.

792
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 9: So you were hoping that you could possibly make danteo

793
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 9: full timer, you would get that replication, and it goes

794
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 9: from there. You were hoping that Donovan Israku would hit

795
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Speaker 9: the ground running as quickly as Michael Parsons did, which

796
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Speaker 9: is an anomaly and probably not going to happen.

797
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Speaker 1: And it's not happening.

798
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Speaker 9: I'm hoping Marshawn kneland would take the stack all this hope. Yeah,

799
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Speaker 9: that's not enough for me to look at Michael Parsons

800
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Speaker 9: and say, Okay, I'm good without you.

801
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Speaker 7: I would argue that it wasn't just hope, because you

802
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 7: were seeing a lot of this at training camp and

803
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 7: in the preseason. You were seeing a lot of those

804
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Speaker 7: guys step up in ways that made you feel a

805
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 7: little more comfortable.

806
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Speaker 9: I think, just so we're on the same page, my

807
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 9: point of view comes from immediately post draft. That's why

808
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 9: I mentioned don Israku. Right, So I'm looking like June, yeah,

809
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 9: or you go to training camp, gotcha, it's hope for

810
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 9: that point forward before you see anybody take a single step.

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Speaker 7: And my purview here is from training camp when you're

812
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Speaker 7: seeing those guys step up in big ways and you're like,

813
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 7: oh my god, is Donovan Azraku that dude because of how.

814
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 6: Quick he's able to get off the line training camp.

815
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Speaker 7: And granted, even Tommy was talking about how he's you know,

816
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 7: he's right there, he's getting there, almost there, but the

817
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 7: actual results aren't where they need to be.

818
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I said this initially, I didn't like the Mica trade.

819
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 3: I still think it opens you up and gives you

820
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: flexibility for the future. And when it happened this was

821
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: talking about I'm talking about when that trade came down

822
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Speaker 3: prior to the season.

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Speaker 4: I said, it gives you a whole lot of possibilities.

824
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Speaker 4: And they've already taken advantage of some of that.

825
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: They signed Tyler Smith, they signed a Ron Plan, Jake

826
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: Ferguson was already done. But they've got options to possibly

827
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: sign a George Pickens in the future. And then they've

828
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: got the two first round draft picks. Kenny Clark comes in,

829
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 3: He's under contract for three years. All of the elements

830
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Speaker 3: of the trade give you flexibility as an organization, which

831
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 3: brings us right back to right now. You did not

832
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 3: anticipate to be a better defense in twenty twenty five.

833
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: This was a move for twenty six and twenty seven.

834
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Speaker 3: But with the offense playing that it has been, that's

835
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: where it's changed my mind, and it's like, you gotta

836
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: do something now, you gotta do something again something, all right,

837
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Speaker 3: we got to take our second break.

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Speaker 4: That's what we're doing right now.

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Speaker 4: I'm taking this chair ten percent off. Right, No, do it,

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Speaker 4: don't do that. Don't do that.

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Speaker 3: And please don't tell them talking cowboys sent you steal furnitures.

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Speaker 6: Just tell them we sent you, and then be like

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Speaker 4: They sent me. They'll be like, what the hell are

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Speaker 4: you talking about? All right, Allen in Phoenix is on

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Speaker 4: Talking Cowboys?

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Speaker 6: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Alex or Alan? Sorry? Alan, It's all good.

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Speaker 14: It's all good.

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Speaker 13: And man, honestly, like you said, hope is not a strategy.

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Speaker 13: So I'm being optimistic. But every day after every week,

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Speaker 13: it just becomes a little less, a little less, a

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Speaker 13: little less.

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Speaker 8: It's all good.

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Speaker 14: Though.

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Speaker 13: I'm a huge fan of the show. Is my second

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Speaker 13: time Colin Patrick. I love your life tweets. They keep me, honestly,

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Speaker 13: really into the game because I feel like I understand

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Speaker 13: a lot more. And honestly, ever since I started listening

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Speaker 13: to the show, I've just been, you know, been understanding

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Speaker 13: football a lot more and been more into at the game.

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Speaker 14: And honestly, I don't even know what to say.

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Speaker 13: Man, this defense is atrocious. I mean, they it's just

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Speaker 13: it's rough. Rough. I don't I don't know. I want

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Speaker 13: to I want to be on train, you know, trade

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Speaker 13: for players and stuff right now. But man, I don't know,

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Speaker 13: I don't know. I really got much to say. She

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Speaker 13: want to say, A big fan of the show.

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Speaker 8: And because I have a good.

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Speaker 4: Day, thanks, Alan, appreciate you appreciate Colin.

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Speaker 1: He sounds so defeated, and I get it, no he does.

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Speaker 4: He's like, I love the show. I love listening to

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Speaker 4: you guys.

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Speaker 9: But man, he is so tired. But so are so

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Speaker 9: many fans. There's just it's yeah. All you can do

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Speaker 9: now is hold on to the optimism that you have,

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Speaker 9: which is that yes, we understand and we can't say

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Speaker 9: this enough. Dak Prescott in the offense had a bad

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Speaker 9: day at the office. So if you're going to criticize him,

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Speaker 9: criticize him in that that framing. But to say that

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Speaker 9: the offense is a problem and you're worried about going forward,

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Speaker 9: to stop that.

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Speaker 1: The defense is the problem.

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Speaker 9: The defense is who you have to worry about going forward,

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Speaker 9: and the defense is who you need to throw something

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Speaker 9: at whether it be a trade and or free agency,

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Speaker 9: just do something. If you're on the train of thought

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Speaker 9: that you can still salvage the season, you gotta do

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Speaker 9: something you can just stampat.

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Speaker 7: Let me just say that, like, granted, we're not here

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Speaker 7: criticizing the offense very much.

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Speaker 6: It was a bad day at the office.

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Speaker 7: It was the worst time to have a bad day

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Speaker 7: at the office. Yeah, it's bad, but they've criticized themselves.

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Speaker 7: I mean, Dak Prescott was taugh talking about it in

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Speaker 7: th post game presser about it, and he said, I

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Speaker 7: was pressing.

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Speaker 6: I was pressing.

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Speaker 7: That is never good for Dak Prescott to be pressing that.

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Speaker 7: That throwed it to Jake Ferguson. Kyle was very obviously

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Speaker 7: opinionated about that throw.

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Speaker 4: I hated that throat.

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Speaker 7: At halftime, and understandable because he was pressing.

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Speaker 4: He broke it down too.

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Speaker 3: He said he thought he thought the seam would be

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Speaker 3: open over the top, and it's the corner play closer

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Speaker 3: to him than he thought.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, that's pressing that. That's the example

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Speaker 4: of pressing.

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Speaker 3: All you got to do is throw that throw it

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Speaker 3: to the boundaries and get your three points and you're

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Speaker 3: down by two possessions with the.

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Speaker 6: Seven year old field goal man you.

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Speaker 9: Got the problem is is number one And I said

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Speaker 9: this yesterday. Don't ever throw that ball again. Yeah, that

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Speaker 9: being said, I see the thought process. I think this.

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Speaker 9: He won't say it publicly, which is fine because he's

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Speaker 9: a leader in the locker room, but we can say

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Speaker 9: it when you when you don't trust that your defense

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Speaker 9: can get a stop. You know, for a fact, you

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Speaker 9: can't trade feeling goals for touchdowns. So you know, even

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Speaker 9: though you got three in your back pocket, you're probably

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Speaker 9: going to press. And then what makes you press more

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Speaker 9: is the fact that your protection was simply not there.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 9: So also a quick news and note, sounds like Cooper

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Speaker 9: BB is going to be back this week.

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Speaker 1: Per Stephen Jones to one on five three good Man.

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Speaker 9: He said he believes Cooper BB will be back, so

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Speaker 9: at least you get some reinforcement there. But the biggest

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Speaker 9: thing is this offense. I feel confident in the same

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Speaker 9: they will not have too many more bad days.

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Speaker 1: At the office.

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Speaker 4: Now it's going to happen the.

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Speaker 9: Defense, though, I don't know if they have another good

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Speaker 9: day at the office in them. When you look at

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Speaker 9: the gauntlet that awaits them coming out of the by.

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Speaker 9: This is why the Cowboys needed to stack as many

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Speaker 9: wins as possible going into the bye week, because coming

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Speaker 9: out of the bye that's pretty pretty nasty work waiting

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Speaker 9: for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've gotten beat so far by Jalen Hurts, which

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Speaker 3: is understandable. Caleb Williams, Bryce Young Bownecks.

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Speaker 4: Those are the three.

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Speaker 1: Who's blues to come? Who's to come?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, this week it's questionable.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna possibly be Kyler Murray they think he can play,

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Speaker 3: but if not, it's Jacobe Brissett. But then you've got

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Speaker 3: Geno Smith, Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes, Jared Goff. Whoever the

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Speaker 3: hell the Vikings are going to play in December. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what's happening with their spot situation right now,

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Speaker 3: justin Herbert who's having a career year. Uh, maybe you

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Speaker 3: get a healthy Jaden Daniels and then you'll have Jackson

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Speaker 3: Dart for the first time.

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Speaker 4: So it's definitely.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's that that stretch where it's Eagles, Chiefs, Lions, Vikings, Chargers,

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Speaker 3: Bang Bang Banks.

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Speaker 6: Then the show. Dude, that was a terrible That's the

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Speaker 6: worst thing I've ever heard.

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Speaker 4: You lost that you lost the.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the smile of Josh's face is such a psychological thing, right,

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Speaker 9: so it hurts so bad that your mind doesn't know

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Speaker 9: how to process the paint anymore.

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Speaker 1: No, so now you just start smiling.

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Speaker 7: Can you read that list one more time, please?

1033
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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, Caleb Williams, Bryce Young and bow Knicks. Good God,

1034
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Speaker 3: now you want me to read the list that they've beaten, please.

1035
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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson narrowly champion, Jayden Daniels and Justin Fish he was.

1036
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Speaker 6: In the NFCY Championship last year.

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Speaker 1: They did beat up on Jane who was.

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Speaker 3: The last one, Jayden Daniels and Justin Fields Field they

1039
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Speaker 3: tied with Jordan Lowe.

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Speaker 6: Hey, it doesn't Fields won a game last week.

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Speaker 1: Da, I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I mean, at the end of the day, it's what

1043
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 9: we're saying is you needed the first half of the

1044
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Speaker 9: season to have as many wins as possible because what

1045
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 9: comes to you after in the second half of the

1046
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 9: season is just the nastiest of work when it comes

1047
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 9: to your schedule, which is another reason why you have

1048
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Speaker 9: to do something if you're trying to salvage this season

1049
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Speaker 9: at all. Now, in doing something. Does that mean that

1050
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 9: you magically turn to you know, a nine win team.

1051
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

1052
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Speaker 9: I don't know, but I do know that standing pad on,

1053
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Speaker 9: what you have when you see what you have is

1054
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Speaker 9: the worst in the league as far as defensively. I

1055
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Speaker 9: just don't see how you do that and then look,

1056
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Speaker 9: you know, Brian Schottenheimer in the in the face and say, yeah,

1057
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Speaker 9: we were, you know, trying to set you up for

1058
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Speaker 9: success in year one. Yeah, there were moves that were

1059
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Speaker 9: made that you could look shoty in the face and

1060
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Speaker 9: say that, George Pickens being one of them, right, Solomon

1061
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Speaker 9: Thomas being to a lesser degree, but that kind of addition.

1062
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Speaker 1: Right, But if you if you.

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Speaker 9: Fly through the trade deadline without Javonte Williams, absolutely Javonte Williams, because.

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Speaker 1: We believe in Javonte.

1065
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Speaker 4: That was a sadder clap today.

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Speaker 9: It was because he didn't get so many opportunities carries

1067
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Speaker 9: a right thirteen carries in a homecoming to Denver. You

1068
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Speaker 9: should have let him just there's no reason to.

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Speaker 6: Nick had a good point yesterday.

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Speaker 7: I was talking about He's like, at one point in

1071
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Speaker 7: the offensive huddle, they should have said, hey, remember they

1072
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Speaker 7: let you go and they didn't want you anymore. Anyways,

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Speaker 7: We're gonna run.

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Speaker 1: And give the freaking ball.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, so some thet them do is Marshawn Lynch impression,

1077
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Speaker 9: like sometimes you just got to run through a blank

1078
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Speaker 9: Blank's face.

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Speaker 1: Should have let them run.

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Speaker 4: Through their fist, should have let it happen.

1081
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Trade Deadline is coming. Do something one.

1082
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 4: Week from today. It's gonna happen. Next Wednesday, we're gonna

1083
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Speaker 4: we're gonna go talking to the Trade Deadline edition, and

1084
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 4: then Wednesday we're gonna be like, Wow, they did something,

1085
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 4: or here we go, they did nothing. Buckle up, everybody,

1086
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Speaker 4: we're going by.

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Speaker 9: Quick shout out to Benjamin Perez. I caught you in

1088
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Speaker 9: the first half of the chat. What do I know

1089
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Speaker 9: about Demon Slayer?

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Speaker 1: Stop it? So the movie? Check out? The movie is

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Speaker 1: one of the best animey movies I've ever seen in

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Speaker 1: my life.

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Speaker 10: Hm.

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Speaker 1: That was just ran.

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Speaker 9: I had that filed away because I want to give

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Speaker 9: them props for knowing about demons.

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Speaker 6: What's the last movie watched?

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Speaker 4: The last movie I watched it's been a minute.

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Speaker 1: Was it the horror movie that you saw in Denver? Alright,

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Speaker 1: then that'll do it for taking them Demons.

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Speaker 4: The title was forty four to twenty four the final

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Speaker 4: That's gonna do it for us?

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