1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Smantha. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: And welcome to Stuff. I've Never told you. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 3: Protection by Heart Radio, and today we were bringing back 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 3: one that I. 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: Had a lot of fun with. I think you had 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: fun with, Samantha, but it was one we did. 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 3: Admittedly I would not find this funny now, but we 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: did about salty Valentines, this history of giving really mean 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: cruel valencines. 10 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: Oh, that was one of the first introductions to this show. 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: I was I like this, let's go. 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: Yes, it was a very fascinating one. You can find 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 3: a lot of images should you choose to do so, 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: but we haven't reran it. So since we're getting into 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: a Valentine's Day territory, we thought we would bring it back, 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: So please enjoy this classic episode. Hey, this is Annie 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: and Samantha and welcome to Stuff. 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: I've Never told you. 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: A production of Iheartmedia' is how stuff works. As this 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 3: episode comes out, it is Valentine's Day surrounded by Singles 21 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: Awareness Day, Galentine's Day, whatever you celebrate it, don't celebrate 22 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: on February fourteenth Mistress Day. Apparently Mistress Day. That seems sexist, 23 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: Yeah it does. We might get into that a little 24 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 3: bit later. If you're listening to this today, it comes 25 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 3: out Samantha and I are in LA and we might 26 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 3: be doing our own sort of Galentine's Day. 27 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: Though it's gonna be a full thing. 28 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a full. 29 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 4: The Gallantines and Valentine celebrating single, all of that thing. 30 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: We're going to do all of them. 31 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 5: Okay, perfect, Yes, all the boxes, all of the boxes, 32 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 5: and hopefully we might have a coffee times with other 33 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 5: gal yeah, or those who I did not ask. 34 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: Come and celebrate or just what to hang with. Yeah, 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: totally trigger warning. A brief mentions of violence against women 36 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: in this one. 37 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: And this one. 38 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 3: Actually came to my mind because I learned about dating 39 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: Sunday for the first time here in the United States 40 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: at least, which is apparently a new Year's resolution post 41 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: holiday breakup thing and maybe like you're still single, questions 42 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: that you got over the holidays, or omg, Valentine's Day 43 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: is coming around the corner one of those or a 44 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: combination of those reasons that results in a bunch of 45 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: people signing up for dating apps. The first Sunday of 46 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: the new year is the busiest day of the year 47 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: for dating apps. 48 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: Do you know about this year. 49 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 4: Yes, I did, and I purposely stayed away from January 50 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 4: all the way through March when I was on the 51 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: dating sites because of that. 52 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: I will not be a statistic. You are so much 53 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: more than a statistic to me, is amanth. 54 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: I do know that there's also a tradition for New Year, 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 4: or do you know how people do things that if 56 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 4: you'll wear pink underwear that's supposed to usher your new 57 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: lovers or something. 58 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: I have not heard that. 59 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that. Okay, well I did it. 60 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: Sure you did it or didn't, It doesn't matter either way. 61 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: Some apps see an increase of new users up to 62 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: eighty percent. And one of the ways I learned about 63 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: this is I got asked out a lot in January 64 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: and it made me stop and think, something is happening here, 65 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: Something is not right, And now I know it is. 66 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: I was part of the statistics. You were in some ways, 67 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: so you were on the apps, right, No, No, I was. 68 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: Just getting asked out. 69 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: As I've said before, I do have a very long 70 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: history of dating people born on or near Valentine's State. 71 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: That has also given me pause. And a lot of 72 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: my friends. 73 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: Are born around this time, right, I don't believe in astrology, 74 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: but I'm like, huh, interesting. 75 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: Those are the types of people. Huh. 76 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: Yes, Samantha and I we were discussing what our schools 77 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: used to do for Valentine's Day, like, you know, primary 78 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: school and I was in elementary school. We would make 79 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: these little decorated shoeboxes with slots for Valentine's cards, and 80 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: you just would sort of sit around awkwardly and hope 81 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 3: that you got one after you'd given years out. And 82 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: I hope that the one you got wasn't mean, because 83 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 3: I got some mean ones. 84 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: Really, yes, I did. It's so weird. 85 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 3: You didn't have this experience, no, geez, well I did. 86 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 3: And we went to school nearish each. 87 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: Other, nearish, different timeframes. 88 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: That's true, But you'd think it would improve over time and. 89 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: Not get more. Right. Apparently y'all got meaner. I don't know. 90 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 2: We mean. 91 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: You have a picture of your face with a bunch 92 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: of pimples on it. 93 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 4: Wow, Oh my gosh, what Yes, that's elaborate. 94 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: Oh I'm a main girl. Elaborate Stephen. I haven't forgotten 95 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: Steven's but I got I got back. 96 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: Later in high school, we had this thing where you 97 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: could pay a dollar to send either white think our 98 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 3: red rose anonymously. White represented friendship, Pink represented a crush. 99 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: I think and read represented love. But of course my 100 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: friends and I all hijacked it and we sent each 101 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: other flowers from secreted miners. 102 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 2: It was great. 103 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 3: My mom would always make me these paper roses every 104 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: year I have when I saved them. I'm a very 105 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: sentimental person, and my dad would get me a chocolate 106 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 3: from our local chocolate maker. So it was like a 107 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: grab bag of some bad things but. 108 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: Some good things. 109 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: Wow. 110 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 4: I guess you guys did a lot more. Maybe my 111 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 4: school just did not care as much. We definitely did 112 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 4: the bio ros whatever do with those things. It wasn't 113 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 4: different colors to represent anything a b We were never mean. 114 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 4: I mean, I think for our school we did the 115 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 4: little dinky shoe boxes as well, but everybody brought everyone 116 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 4: of Valentine and you won if there was a piece 117 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: of candy on it. That's how you knew you were liked, 118 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 4: kind of if you got more candy or whatever whatnot. 119 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 4: Of course, we would also have the one where they 120 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: would send deliveries individual kids and such, and I remember 121 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 4: specifically that I had to have a boyfriend the third 122 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 4: grade because for the like I'm never, I was like, 123 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 4: I'm no. It was fifth grade and I was determined 124 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 4: to have someone deliver something to me. 125 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: I love it. 126 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 4: I know I was very manipulative, but to be fair, 127 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: I got him a really great thing too, And I'm 128 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: sure I think included one of those pencils with the 129 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 4: heart that breaks. 130 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, be mine or whatever. 131 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 4: Right, So, I mean we gave each other gifts, but yeah, no, 132 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 4: never any mean ones I never saw. Maybe you were 133 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: just nicer, or maybe I just never noticed. 134 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah you things kind of been going on. 135 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: Maybe I just didn't know my friends were nicer than 136 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 4: your friends. I don't know, oh how friends. But I 137 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 4: will say I also get a box of chocolates even 138 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 4: to this day, every year from my father, and that's 139 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 4: one of the things that he loves to do, is 140 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 4: give my sister and I a box of chocolates, and 141 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 4: even with me being not home, he mels. 142 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: It and usually like prioritizes it. 143 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: You know, that has to be one day shipping all 144 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 4: these scenes something from Walmwater Target or something. 145 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well it should be coming any day. 146 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 4: Now. 147 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: I'm around, I'm available. 148 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: Okay's just saying, okay, all right. 149 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,559 Speaker 3: Well we're doing a kind of basic, very brief history 150 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: of Valentine's is actually fascinating. But before that overview, Valentine's 151 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: Day is a holiday that takes place on February fourteenth, 152 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: all about love and expressing your love, usually through things 153 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: like cards, flowers, and candy. 154 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: Yes, it is a big business. 155 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: In twenty ten, people spent around eighteen point six billion 156 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: dollars on Valentine's Day. 157 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: And these days Valentine's Day is a great way for 158 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 4: companies and corporations to perpetuate heterodating and gender stereotypes. Women 159 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 4: love chocolate, right, No, but it wasn't always a holiday 160 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: about love, No, it was so. With a brief history 161 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 4: of Valentine's Day, No one's entirely sure where Valentine came from, 162 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 4: but one popular theory goes all the way back to 163 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 4: the ancient Roman celebration of Lupercalia from February thirteenth to 164 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 4: the fifteenth. This festival call for men, who, surprise, were 165 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 4: usually drunk and naked, to sacrifice a goat and a dog. 166 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 4: How dare you? Then they would skin these animals and 167 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 4: whip women with the skin. Delightful, What a great celebration. 168 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 4: The women believed this ritual helped with fertility. There was 169 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: a matchmaking aspect as well. Men would draw the names 170 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 4: of women out of jars and the couple would go 171 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 4: off and have lots of sex for the rest of 172 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 4: the festival, and if they hit it off, they might 173 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 4: even stay together. 174 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: This sounds sort of like I just finished the Newest 175 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: Thing of Sabrina, The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. I feel 176 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 3: like a couple of seasons back they had this. 177 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 4: They did they had the worship being whatever, and they 178 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: paired with each other. 179 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: You're supposed to have sex all night or something or something. 180 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: It didn't happen that way, But not for Sabrina. Yeah, 181 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: other people, who knows, not for Sabrina. As for the 182 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: name Valentine's, during the third century CE, Roman emperor Claudius 183 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: had two men named Valentine executed via decapitation on February 184 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 3: fourteenth on two separate years, possibly because they were Christians. 185 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: The first man, Father Valentinus, ended up arrested and in 186 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 3: servitude of a well off man named Asterius. Father Valentinus 187 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: kept espousing the power of Christianity and Hysterius told him, Look, 188 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 3: if you can get rid of my foster daughter's blindness, 189 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: you will make a believer out of me. So the 190 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 3: father covered the girl's eyes with his hands and recited, 191 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: Lord Jesus Christ, enlighten your handmaid, because you are God, 192 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: the true light, and the legend goes. 193 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: She regained her sight. 194 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: Mysterius converted, along with his entire family, but getting wind 195 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: of this, the emperor ordered them all to be executed. 196 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: The second Valentine to be executed had an extremely similar story, 197 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 3: and of so scholars suspect they're probably the same person, 198 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 3: just with two different names and slightly different details. Nevertheless, 199 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: the Catholic Church later honored their martyrdom with St. 200 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: Valentine's Day. 201 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: Several churches throughout Europe claim to have pieces of Saint 202 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: Valentine's skull. 203 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: One place even claims to have the whole thing. 204 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: If you're curious about where this information comes from, because 205 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: I was there was a I guess he was a priest. 206 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: He went around collecting stories for all of these saints 207 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 3: and compiled them into one book. So if you're ever 208 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: curious about a saint, then check it out. In the 209 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 3: eleventh century, a priest claiming to have Saint Valentine's head 210 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: used it to cure a whole laundry list of things, 211 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: including demonic possession and to prevent fires and epidemics. 212 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: Oh we need that today, we do. 213 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: I wonder where it is. I wonder that's the new Indiana. 214 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: Jonas getting her bed. 215 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: I mean, come on there. 216 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 3: It is a lot of media has romanticized the story 217 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: of Valentine, that he wrote love letters in jail or 218 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: performed marriages in jail, but there's no real historical evidence. 219 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 2: To back that up. What we have is on shaky 220 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: enough ground. 221 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 4: Speaking of the Catholic charge, in an attempt to due 222 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 4: away with pagan festivals, they combined Valentine's Day with Librecalia 223 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 4: in fifth century CE. But it was still pretty much 224 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 4: a day about getting drunk and fertility, but now with 225 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 4: clothes on, because you know Christians, right, that's the way 226 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 4: you got to do it. In parallel, there was Gallanton's Day, 227 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 4: a holiday observed by the Normans. 228 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: Gallanton meant lover of women. 229 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 4: Because the names are similar, It's likely they got combined 230 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 4: at some point in time. 231 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 3: Right, and then, with the help of artists like Shakespeare Ofhilia, 232 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 3: describes herself as hamlets Valentine and Shaucer, who wrote a 233 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: February as the seasoned birdsmate Tauru. Romantic Valentine's Day was 234 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: romanticized and popularized throughout Europe. By the Middle Ages, handmade 235 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: paper cards had become a part of this tradition. The 236 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: French Duke of Orleans described his wife as his quote 237 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 3: very gentle Valentine in a letter he wrote to her 238 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 3: in February fourteen fifteen. Sweets became a part of it, 239 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: to getting something sweet for someone you thought was sweet. 240 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: Oh, so I need to get you something sweet. 241 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: Oh you think I'm sweets? 242 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: Oh you know I do. So. 243 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 4: From Europe, this holiday spread, eventually making its way to 244 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 4: the New World. Nineteenth century industrialization added mass produced, factory 245 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 4: made cards to the mix, and in nineteen thirteen a 246 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 4: little coupling you may have heard of, oh, I don't know, 247 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 4: called Hallmark. Hallmark Cards started making cards in Kansas City, Missouri. 248 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: Right and from there you can imagine, oh, the birth 249 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: of cards. So yeah, well, they were very instrumental in 250 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 3: popularizing a lot of the holidays we celebrate. 251 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: Because that's their bread and butter. 252 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: Why you gotta get a card for this holiday in 253 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: the card exactly, but not all cards. 254 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: We were nice. 255 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: And we're going to get into that. 256 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: But first we're gonna fall for a quick break for 257 00:12:48,600 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: word from our sponsor. And we're back, Thank you, sponsor, 258 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 3: And we're back with something I actually learned about. I 259 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 3: remember the precise moment I learned about this over on 260 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: our other show that my other show that I do 261 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: is Samantha. You should just come along and be part 262 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: of it. We Savor, which is all about food and drink. 263 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 3: We did an episode for Valentine's Day on Sweethearts, the 264 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 3: candy yes, with the messages, and I somehow found this 265 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 3: thing about giving people mean sweethearts. And from there I 266 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: found this old tradition of giving people vinegar Valentine. 267 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 4: And you told me about this, and I had no 268 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 4: clue that was a thing. I'm still kind of baffled. Oh, 269 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 4: even though we've been researching it, I'm still baffled. 270 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: Oh it's baffling. Actually, it makes perfect sense in a 271 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 3: weird way. 272 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: And I'm going to bring it all together to. 273 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 4: Be fair, though I feel like I would be. This 274 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: is probably my type of Valentine anyway, Lord. 275 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 3: It probably is so This is something that I'm i 276 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: is hilarious, but I'm also really glad it's a thing of. 277 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: The past because they're pretty mean, and we're going to 278 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: do some examples. 279 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: But so vinegar Valentine's were previously called mocking insulting. Our 280 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: comic vinegar is actually something that we call them modernly. 281 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: That's not what they were called back then. And this 282 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: was the practice from about the eighteen forties to nineteen 283 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: forties that was particularly popular in the United States and 284 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: the UK of giving people a mean or cool card, 285 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: usually with a crude caricature, almost always anonymously. Oh even 286 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: when folks made their own Valentines before there was a 287 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: commercialization of cards, they made these vinegar versions. 288 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: They made homemade vinegar versions. 289 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: I guess that's what I was getting in elementary school. 290 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: But the commercialization of cards took that and ran with it. 291 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: They made them. 292 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 3: People would buy these cards for about a penny or 293 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: sometimes more for a fancy one, and they could get 294 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: pretty fancy and send them through the mail, again anonymously 295 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 3: to add insult to in the person receiving the vinegar 296 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: valentine usually had. 297 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: To pay for postage. 298 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 3: They had to pay for it It could be someone 299 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: you secretly despise, or it could be a not so 300 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: nice way to tell a suitor you were not that 301 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: into them. 302 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: That was a really popular one. We should do these, 303 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think so. 304 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: You could send one to a couple you didn't like, 305 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: or if they were doing PDA you didn't like, you 306 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: could send that. You could strongly advise them to change 307 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 3: their behavior. There A lot of them are threatening in nature, 308 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 3: like change your ways or else. Millions of these millions 309 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: were printed. If you think about it as I have, 310 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: they were sort of an early example of trolling. 311 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: It really is. 312 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: It's like we complain about social media today and how 313 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: terrible people are, but we've been terrible apparently as long 314 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: as we. 315 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: Can be anonymous. 316 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Because if you didn't want to say something to 317 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: someone's face. 318 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: Here here was a great way to do it. 319 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: And you could get them for just about anything or anyone. 320 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: They get so specific. 321 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: At one time, these cards accounted for half of all 322 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: Valentine's sales, not just cards sales in the United States. 323 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 5: Wow. 324 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, the power of anonymity, I guess. Yes. 325 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: So we do want to have we want to go 326 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: through some examples. 327 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, these are fine. 328 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 4: So there's one this image that shows a woman handing 329 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: a man a lemon, and the caption reads, to my Valentine, 330 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 4: 'tis a limon I hand you? Now skadoo? Because I 331 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 4: love another there's no chance for you. Also, I would 332 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 4: like to say all of these have great words that 333 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 4: we never use anymore, such as skadoo, and I think 334 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 4: I would need to bring them back. 335 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: You need the chance Atlantic accent. Oh yeah, I know, 336 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: I don't do that. 337 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we'll see how it goes. 338 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: There's one of a woman dumping a bucket of water 339 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: on a man's head that reads, here's a pretty cool reception. 340 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: At least you'll say, there's no exception. It's just as 341 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: plain as it can say, old fellow, you best step away. 342 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: That may be something you should do now, I know. 343 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 4: Another one shows a snake in a suit on and 344 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 4: a top hat, and then there's a woman looking on 345 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 4: in the fear in the background, and the caption goes, 346 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 4: I'm not attracted by your glitter for well, I know 347 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 4: how very bitter my life would be if I should 348 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 4: take you for my spouse. 349 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: A rattlesnake. 350 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 4: Oh no, I'd not accept the ring or evermore twould 351 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 4: prove us sting. 352 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: Oh also, I think that snake had a monocle. Just 353 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 3: want to add that in That. 354 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: Probably sounds about right. 355 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 2: Yes. 356 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: Another depicts a man about to kiss a donkey with 357 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: the message, Hey, lover boy, the place for you is 358 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: home upon the shelf, because the only one who'd kiss 359 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 3: you is. 360 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: A jackass like yourself. 361 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: Or this titled bald Head, Your bright shining pate is 362 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: seen at all shows and invariably down in the bald 363 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: headed rose, where you make conspicuous by your tender care. 364 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: Your true ardent love for one onesome hair. 365 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: Oh so mean, no one's superman. 366 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 4: So several were moral based about PDA or alcoholism. 367 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: Or this one called television bug. 368 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 4: It says at faces that are televised all day and night, 369 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 4: you stare, but if. 370 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: They saw your stupid mug, they'd all go off the air. 371 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I love the rhyme. Not gonna lie. 372 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: The rhymes are fun. Yeah uh. And these cars got down. 373 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: To the occupation specific. 374 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 3: If you had a sales lady you didn't like, there's 375 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: a vinegar valentine that had you covered like this one. 376 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 3: Saleslady as you wait upon the women with discuss upon 377 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: your face. The way you snap and bark at them, 378 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 3: one would think you owned the place. Oho, if you 379 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: weren't a fan of your physician. There was a character 380 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 3: named doctor Shirdeath. You could even send one to the 381 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 3: postman who delivered the note. They were very big during 382 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: the Civil War. TiO one shows a woman with a 383 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: large skull for a head carrying a chainsaw. The caption 384 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 3: reads to the surgeon, ho, ho old saw bones, here 385 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: you come. Yes, when the rebels whack as you are 386 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: always ready with your traps to mangle saw and hack us. 387 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: Oh. 388 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 4: There was a whole category of cars meant to masculate 389 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: men who had babies on their lap as being hen pecked, 390 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 4: which is also a great word, but not good. 391 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: No, But at the same time it's an old school word. 392 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. 393 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 394 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 4: And then the old maid from eighteen ninety four, 'tis 395 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 4: all in vain your simpering looks. You never can incline 396 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 4: with all of your bustles, stay in curls to find 397 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 4: a Valentine. 398 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 3: And this one she's caught a poor cat and a bird, 399 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: but she can't snare a man. So we've heard see 400 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: old maid's sad fate to lose out on a mate 401 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: and take tea. 402 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: But sh not a. 403 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: Word or this one. You've got more curves than a 404 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: roller coaster. Your clothes fit like a glove. There's one 405 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: thing wrong, glamour puss. You've a face only a mother 406 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 3: would love. 407 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: So many depicted women in unfeminine ways, miss nosy and 408 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 4: image of a woman with a large nose that reads 409 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 4: on account of your talk of others affairs at most dances, 410 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 4: you sit warming the chairs because of the k you 411 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 4: take to attend to all others business. 412 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: You have a a friend and speaking of unfeminine women's 413 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 3: suffrage ushered in a whole new wave of vinegar Valentine's 414 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: aimed at women fighting for the right to vote, Like this, 415 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: your vote for me, you will not get. I don't 416 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 3: want a preaching suffragette. These cards typically portrayed suffragettes as 417 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: ugly and often violent. Some women sent Valentine's to a 418 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 3: sure would be suitors that they weren't like those suffragists 419 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 3: reading in these wild days of suffragette dreys. I'm sure 420 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: you'd never overlook a girl who can't be militant. But 421 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 3: simply loves to cook, okay, but there were pro suffragette 422 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 3: Valentine's as well, So you. 423 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: Know, it's kind of like the feminists and anti feminists today, 424 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: and it's just in Twitter. 425 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. 426 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: These cards, while popular, were certainly not universally well liked, 427 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 3: and it's hard to say how many were jokes how 428 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: many were totally serious. An eighteen ninety five article from 429 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 3: the Kindergarten Primary magazine lamented the detrimental effects these cars 430 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 3: had on children, calling on teachers to quote make it 431 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 3: a day for kind remembrance than a day for wrecking revenge. 432 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 3: One post office in Chicago held over twenty five thousand Valentines, 433 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: deeming some of the cards to Vulgart to send. But 434 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: there are historical examples of people getting murdered or taking 435 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 3: their own lives over vinegar Valentine. 436 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: So it's a bullying tactic. 437 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 2: It is. It absolutely is. 438 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 4: Again, these are funny to read right now, but plenty 439 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 4: were super sexist and racist and fat phobic, and some 440 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 4: advise people to kill themselves. Really, if you think of 441 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 4: comment boards and Twitter fees, you doue comments. In some 442 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 4: ways this is still going on, actually in a lot 443 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 4: of ways. Yeah, going on, and people have always been terrible. 444 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: And again, the world is burning. 445 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 2: Sminty, the world is burning. 446 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: That's our tackling. 447 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 4: Oh so wow, yeah, Vinegar Valentine's I never knew it 448 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 4: was such a thing. 449 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: I would recommend looking it up just to see the 450 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: imagery in a lot of them. 451 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 4: Oh god, oh my, that sounds disheartening. Yes, but maybe 452 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 4: we should go on to a bitter better We're not bitter, yes, 453 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 4: better topics. 454 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: Such as Gallentine's Day. 455 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 456 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 4: So the actual name and celebration was first on Parks 457 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 4: and rec episode that aired on February eleventh, twenty ten. 458 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: Also should be noted that it was written by a man. 459 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: Oh yes, so. 460 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 4: In the episode, we see one of my faves, Amy Poehler, 461 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 4: celebrating with her gal pals with brunch and plenty of 462 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 4: kitschy presents and gifts, and as Leslie explained it, every 463 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 4: February thirteenth, my lady friends and I leave our husbands 464 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 4: and our boyfriends at home and we just come and 465 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 4: kick it breakfast style ladies celebrating ladies. It's like the 466 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 4: Lilith Fair minus the eighths plus for tatas and waffles. 467 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: And waffles, of course the waffles. 468 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, as defined by Urban Dictionary, February thirteenth, The other 469 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 3: half of Valentine's Day, when you celebrate your love for 470 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 3: your lady friends single r. No, Hey, Judy, you're such 471 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 3: a great friend to me, and I want to celebrate 472 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: our friend love, not only my sexy love with my 473 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 3: boyfriend Marvin tomorrow. So let's have a dinner and get 474 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: together the day before Valentine's Day. Gallantine's Day, sexy love, 475 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 3: sexy love, yes, friend love and sexy love yeah. 476 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: No, you got to differentiate. 477 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 4: So if you have seen the show, and most likely 478 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 4: if a friend of yours have seen the show, then 479 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 4: you know that, yes, this is a maid of holiday. 480 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 4: But the success of it has made some great commercial success, 481 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: whether from different products being marketed towards the holiday or 482 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 4: from the sheer amount of publicity written in reference to 483 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 4: said holiday. 484 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 3: Yes, one thing as part of our jobs. And you 485 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: might not get this a lot yet, Samanthah, but you 486 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 3: will is cold emails from pr companies, and I have 487 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 3: probably gotten at least thirty about Galentine's Day and what 488 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: I should be doing on Galentine's Day and what I 489 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 3: should buy my gal Pal friends. So definitely companies have 490 00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 3: capitalized on it. And also, as I said before, it 491 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: wasn't an official day. 492 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: But I feel like a lot of. 493 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: Us we've been doing something like this right for a 494 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 3: long time. We just didn't call it this, and we 495 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 3: didn't have all the kind of traditions. Even though it's new, 496 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 3: there's kind of a set here's what you do exactly. 497 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: Yes. 498 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 3: Spreading wide enough, it has spawned books, articles both arguing 499 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 3: for and against. As New York Post writer Haley Eber 500 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 3: stated in her twenty seventeen column celebrating female friendship is great, 501 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 3: but tying it to Valentine's Day reeks of an opportunistic 502 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 3: marketing ploy, stating she felt it was being used as 503 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: only a marketing ploy, in that February thirteenth had once 504 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 3: been referred to as Mistress Day, again for cheeters to 505 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: take their side pieces, as she states, out for private celebration. 506 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 4: Perhaps it could be stated that Valentines was the answer 507 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 4: to the long appropriated idea that Valentine's was single awareness day. 508 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 4: Side note, there seems to be a whole lot of feelings, 509 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 4: whether it's love, loneliness, or defensiveness, just a whole lot 510 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 4: of emotion around this month, right, And again speaking of 511 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 4: a single Awareness Day, this was created in two thousand 512 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 4: and five with the idea that for too long, February 513 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 4: fourteenth was SAD, which is the acronym for Single Awareness 514 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 4: Day in a negative and so taking it back and 515 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 4: celebrating being single and being aware of that day, I 516 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 4: guess is on the fifties to celebrate one's own singleness 517 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 4: if you happen to be single. 518 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 3: Right, And when I was in college, me and a 519 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: big group of my female friends would do Single Awareness 520 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 3: Day SAD, but we would kind of do it like ironically, 521 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 3: like we were single, right, but we weren't sad. 522 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: We were super happy. We would kind of joke about it. 523 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: Yes, it's a celebration of I don't need no persons. 524 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and then we would always like, really do 525 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 3: it up. 526 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 2: It was really fun. 527 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 3: And of course it should be noted that there are 528 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 3: several other days created before Gallentine's Day, such as International 529 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 3: Day of Friendship, created by the UN and World Friendship 530 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 3: Crusade in nineteen fifty eight and celebrated on July thirtieth, 531 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: although most countries celebrate on the first Sunday, in August. 532 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: And by the way, in nineteen ninety eight, Winnie. 533 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 3: The Pooh but you didn't know apparently I didn't know, 534 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 3: was appointed as the Ambassador of Friendship by the UN. 535 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 2: Yes. 536 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 3: Also of note, National Friendship Day was created by Hallmark 537 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 3: in nineteen nineteen, but apparently went away in the nineteen forties. 538 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 2: I guess they didn't sell enough card maybe not, maybe not. 539 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 3: And yeah, I actually I had a brain freeze and 540 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 3: forgot who Winny of the Woo was. 541 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: It's all okay, I did know who you were. 542 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 2: Now you know, Now I know. 543 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: And we did want to talk about some traditions around 544 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: the world. But first we're going to pause for one 545 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 3: more quick pick for a word from our sponsor, and 546 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 3: we're back. 547 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: Thank you sponsor. 548 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: And yeah, we did want to talk about some traditions 549 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 3: from elsewhere. 550 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, we would love to hear about 551 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 4: traditions from other countries. So please let us know if 552 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 4: you're in a different country, or even if you have 553 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 4: different types of traditions, let us know. Because apparently in 554 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 4: Denmark men give women something called a joking letter. 555 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: Traditionally. I'm as assuming anyone can do it. 556 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, the letter has a funny joke or rhyme signed 557 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 4: only with a series of dots like dot dot dot. 558 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think maybe I was thinking Morse code. 559 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 2: But see this is. 560 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 4: So if the receiver can figure out who the author is, 561 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 4: they get an easter egg when the holiday rolls around. 562 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: What Yeah, huh, I wonder if that's really true? 563 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 4: Please write it so you get an easter egg if 564 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 4: you Yeah, but you have to wait, you have that 565 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 4: long to figure out who it is. Probably is Morse code, 566 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 4: because I wouldn't imagine what an asterisk would be a 567 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 4: hint of sorts. 568 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do feel like I could be totally wrong. 569 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 4: So I feel like this tradition, we're gonna need to 570 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 4: know some answer we need we. 571 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: Have questions that need answer. 572 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 3: At one time, the French participated in something called the 573 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 3: more drawing for love. 574 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 2: It sort of. 575 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 3: Sounds like choosing a kickball team or something. Men and 576 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: women would separate and then call each other's names out 577 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 3: and they would couple up. The men, of course, could 578 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 3: choose another woman if they didn't like the one who 579 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 3: they ended up with, and the unmatched women would go 580 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 3: have a bonfire together, hurling insults and swears to men 581 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 3: who had wrong them, burning the pictures of those men. 582 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 3: This holiday got so out of hand the French government 583 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 3: stepped in and banned it. In England, there used to 584 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 3: be a tradition of women putting bay leaves under their 585 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: bed the night before Valentine's Day, one at each corner 586 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 3: and the center to dream of their future husbands. You 587 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: can check out the episode we did on bay leaves 588 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 3: ever at Savor for more on that, and we also 589 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 3: talked about South Korea's Black Day on April fourteenth, which 590 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: is a day where singles eat black foods. 591 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: Too mourned their single status. But being single is great, y'all. 592 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: It's all good. 593 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: Hey, I'll eat food. 594 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I from what I understand again, listeners right in. 595 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 3: It's also sort of ironic, like I don't think I 596 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: don't think. 597 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: People are really upset about it, but I could be wrong. 598 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 3: So we would love to hear from anybody who knows 599 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: there are black food. 600 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: So we did it. 601 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: And in our Savor episode we talked about we were 602 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: talking about cuttlefish ink and so things just. 603 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: Die like it could be anything. Noodles. 604 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 3: I think noodles is traditional, but like the outside of 605 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 3: tumblings or cupcakes all. 606 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 4: Ridings or kin have the black Hamburger or whatever, and. 607 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 2: We also talked about that. 608 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 4: Oh okay, yes, so I need to go listen to 609 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 4: that episode right now. 610 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 3: You do, you'll learn a lot and we would love 611 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: to learn a lot from you listeners, as we always do, 612 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 3: and we do have some listener male for this one, 613 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 3: starting with Mikhayla. She wrote, Hey, y'all, I loved your 614 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 3: two parter on female revengers, particularly because I'm currently in 615 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 3: a production of Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus, featuring one of the 616 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: most intense here's my bias showing female revengers to more 617 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: at Queen of the Gow. Yes, as an actor, villains 618 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 3: are forever juicy to play, but Tamora Tamora has been 619 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: a mind job and a challenge unlike anything I face 620 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 3: to date the story if you're not savvy. After losing 621 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: a ten year war against Rome, she her three sons, 622 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: and a mercenary, her secret lover Aaron the More are 623 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 3: dragged to Rome as trophies. Her firstborn son is chosen 624 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 3: for sacrifice by way of a right by the titular 625 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 3: character Titus. She begs she appeals to him as a 626 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 3: parent but he does not relent, and her son is 627 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: needlessly buy us again slaughtered. By this, she is forever 628 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 3: altered and irreversibly damaged, and bent on revenge. Of epic proportions, 629 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: she is elevated to Empress Yes in the same scene, 630 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 3: her son was murdered, and she reclaims a status that 631 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 3: will assist her in gaining vengeance, and. 632 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: Boy howdy does she. 633 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: She aids and abets the mutilation and rape of Titus's daughter, 634 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 3: as well as the murder of the daughter's new husband, 635 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 3: frames two of his sons for said murder, and attempts 636 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 3: to drive Titus and sane with grief. The thing is, 637 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 3: he's already pretty insane. Forty years of war will do 638 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 3: that someone. But he's the victor of war and so 639 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 3: lauded for a service to Rome, so his wild behavior 640 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 3: is mostly allowed, even when he kills one of his 641 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 3: own sons. 642 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: But I digress. 643 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 3: In the end, she loses her mind and believes she 644 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 3: has trick Titus into something that will finish him and 645 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 3: his remaining family. However, he hasn't actually bought the farm, 646 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 3: and her sons are captured, murdered, and baked into a pie, 647 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: which she eats at a banquet. She is then killed 648 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: by Titus, and it is pronounced that her body will 649 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 3: be tossed to the animals to feast on as it rots, 650 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 3: because having lived beastly, she will be food for beast 651 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 3: Tamora is a woman in a man's world who, when 652 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 3: she behaves like a man I e. Aggressively, is deemed barbarous, 653 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: without womanhood and without grace. Though when Titus and every 654 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 3: other man in the play behaving kind, no eyebrow gets raised, 655 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: her sexual prowess is often discussed as a negative, either 656 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 3: as a tool of manipulation or further evidence of her barbarism. Meanwhile, 657 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 3: Titus has begotten twenty six sons of one would have 658 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 3: to imagine twenty six separate women delivered to him upon 659 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 3: his returns from war, because you know, dude's gotta let 660 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: off some steam after all that warring. Furthermore, Lavinia, Titus's daughter, 661 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: exists to service her father and her husband, and is 662 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 3: literally referred to as an object or property throughout the play. 663 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 3: They are the only two women in the play, and 664 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 3: so the Madonna and the horror dynamic is omnipresent. I 665 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 3: have so much more to say, but I've already said 666 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: more than I thought I would, and I hear the 667 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 3: atro music spelling. Just want to make sure my favorite 668 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: Shakespearean lady villain got her due. 669 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: Nice. 670 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: I saw that. 671 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: I saw the movie, yeah, when I was a kid 672 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 3: in its. 673 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that could be a little bit horrifying. The pie 674 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: the pies. 675 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 3: Anyway, Whitney wrote, I thought of you both while watching 676 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: a movie recently, and how appropriate considering you ass listeners 677 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 3: for movie recommendations. There's a movie out of China called 678 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 3: The Widowed Witch about a woman who survives a factory 679 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 3: explosion which kills her husband. While recovering from this trauma, 680 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: she endured in other trauma. She ends up becoming a 681 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: traveling shaman. This movie seems to tick off both categories 682 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 3: of somewhat revenge film as well as witch film. Is 683 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 3: also a non white depiction of women practicing magic, perfect, perfect, 684 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 3: well less love recommendations. Yes, we're definitely gonna check that out. 685 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: So we need to know. How are you going to 686 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: celebrate February fourteenth or not? You don't have to, I 687 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: don't blame you. 688 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 4: Do you have a unique tradition or how is it 689 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 4: celebrated in your neck of the Woods. If you don't 690 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 4: do Valentine's Day, is there an equivalent. 691 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 2: Or any of those friendship days? 692 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 5: Oh? 693 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 4: Yes, I definitely had a Galentine's tradition for a while. 694 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 3: Yes, as did I. You can send your stories answers 695 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 3: to our questions. We had many in this episode. Yes, 696 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 3: please don't seen vinegar Valentines unless they're funny. 697 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 4: Unless I actually would appreciate a good funny one. 698 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, a good funny one, that's okay. 699 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 3: You can email us at Stuff Media, mom Stuff at 700 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 3: iHeartMedia dot com. 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