WEBVTT - How to Construct a World Tour

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<v Speaker 1>I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset.

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<v Speaker 2>When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I find my ball in a brid egg

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<v Speaker 2>Friday Egg Frida Egg Friday Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>Bride Egg Lie, I'm about ready to run off the

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<v Speaker 3>golf course.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the Friday Golf Podcast. We are back. What

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<v Speaker 4>an exciting week.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that nobody was really expecting such a big

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<v Speaker 3>week in golf, but we you know, golf always delivers.

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<v Speaker 4>We get a Rory McElroy win in Dubai.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, we get a Lydia co win in Florida, and

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<v Speaker 3>then to top things off, while the while the big

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<v Speaker 3>football weekend, I think Nick Dunlap actually kind of took

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<v Speaker 3>some of football's audience away as an amateur one for

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<v Speaker 3>the first time on the PGA Tour since nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 3>one since Phil Mickelson.

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<v Speaker 4>So pretty historic weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Not really something that you would have thought would happen

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<v Speaker 3>with the with the AMX, it's usually kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>sleepy weekend that seeds to the to the football. But

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<v Speaker 3>I do think that there were, you know, golf fans

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<v Speaker 3>that were lured away from football for once. So today

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<v Speaker 3>I am joined by Friday Golf's Joseph Lamannia and Garrett Morrison.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got a fun exercise. We're gonna we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit about a couple of things. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>do segment we're rolling out in and out where we're

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<v Speaker 3>in on something, out on something, and then we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>roll into a discussion about a potential world tour. Rory

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<v Speaker 3>McElroy and Keith Pelly have been kind of beating the

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<v Speaker 3>drum on this, the idea that golf needs to go

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<v Speaker 3>global with the you know, kind of framework agreement, the

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<v Speaker 3>private equity money that they're bringing in. So we decided,

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<v Speaker 3>why don't we build out what a world tour could

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<v Speaker 3>look like and where it could go for the elite

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<v Speaker 3>players in the professional and the men's professional game.

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<v Speaker 4>So excited to get this going.

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<v Speaker 3>Joseph Garrett thoughts on the weekend, do you think that

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<v Speaker 3>we cut into football at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph, I'll get your take on this. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really I don't really watch football myself, but I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that it's quite a popular sport.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a huge football fan.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say I respectfully disagree with Andy's take

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<v Speaker 2>that golf should steer away from football and Andy.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy says that golf shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 5>Steer away from right, I think it should.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it should run scared.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it should.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know if it should run scared, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do think it should find its windows that aren't

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<v Speaker 2>competing with the most popular sport in America. That said,

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<v Speaker 2>we got a little bit of a blowout towards the

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<v Speaker 2>end of Lion's Buccaneers yesterday, which played well with Dunlap

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<v Speaker 2>being in contention, So it works in that sense. I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely was glued to both. I was double screening it.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, really exciting weekend in golf and Dounlap being

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<v Speaker 2>in contention.

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<v Speaker 5>That was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, clearly they the PGA Tour got a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more from this weekend than it had any

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<v Speaker 1>right to expect, and so that was a big win

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<v Speaker 1>for the PGA Tour this weekend. Obviously. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I normally would have even tuned in too

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday at the American Express, you know, and I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pace myself here at the beginning of the year

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<v Speaker 1>with my professional golf consumption, but certainly I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was locked in to the last few holes. It was

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely engrossing. And you just never know when these things

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<v Speaker 1>are going to pop up. Golf is golf is so

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<v Speaker 1>random like that, and so it's obviously a great weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a it's a big marker of why they

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<v Speaker 3>need to get talented people in the field with sponsors exemptions.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it's a well, I think it's the perfect example,

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<v Speaker 1>honestly of why they should let Zack Johnson in the

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<v Speaker 1>field whenever possible. What was he t twenty five this

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<v Speaker 1>week or something?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Right, Yeah, that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was nice story.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody could have seen that regression coming. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 3>get into in and out news segment. We're going to

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<v Speaker 3>do this weekly on this show just quickly. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it could be anything. Could be I'm in on uh

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<v Speaker 3>on iron Head covers, if you wanted to get into that.

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<v Speaker 3>It could be I'm out on uh on walking and

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<v Speaker 3>carrying your bag and golf, but you know that's not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be in on iron Head's iron Head covers.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a huge opportunity. If they haven't done that.

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<v Speaker 1>If they haven't already merchandised that. Then that's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big miss.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's start, Joseph, you kick things off. What

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<v Speaker 3>are you in on this week?

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<v Speaker 5>Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>My, these these are actually both related to AMX. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's going to be that way every week,

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<v Speaker 2>but I am in on the way Justin Thomas handled

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<v Speaker 2>the downswing in his career, and I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>very good lesson for a lot of junior golfers out

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<v Speaker 2>there or aspiring professional golfers the way Justin Thomas how

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<v Speaker 2>poorly he was playing last summer, he acknowledged it. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't pretend like it wasn't happening. He was accepting of it.

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<v Speaker 2>He talked about it. He wasn't offended when somebody asked

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<v Speaker 2>him about it. He posted some really bad scores and

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<v Speaker 2>fought back the next day. At the Open Championship last year,

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<v Speaker 2>he shot eighty two in the opening round, didn't withdraw,

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<v Speaker 2>fought back, shot seventy one. The next day. At the

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<v Speaker 2>US Open at LACC he shot seventy three to eighty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to back majors with scores in the eighties, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's battled back. He played through it again. It accepted

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<v Speaker 2>that it was happening. To him kind of Scheffler, like

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<v Speaker 2>when Scotti Scheffler has talked about, for example, going into

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<v Speaker 2>the final round of the Masters, not sure if he's

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<v Speaker 2>able to do it. I just think the modern athlete

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<v Speaker 2>is more willing to let us in on their struggles

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit and acknowledge that it's happening instead of

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<v Speaker 2>running from it. And now Justin Thomas has four top

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<v Speaker 2>fives in a row, sort of soft setups, like one

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<v Speaker 2>of those is the Hero World Challenge, but he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of feels back, and I think it's an exceptional example

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<v Speaker 2>to young golfers out there of how to handle a

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<v Speaker 2>down swing in your career, because it can happen to anybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Mine is also Justin Thomas, so we're wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the most Justin Thomas love that has ever

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<v Speaker 1>happened on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>That's for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyways, I think, like one of the things you said, Scheffler,

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<v Speaker 3>like I.

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<v Speaker 4>Would say that the way he handled his down swing

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<v Speaker 4>was on Scheffler.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if you recall last summer, Scottie Scheffler going through

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<v Speaker 3>putting woes similar to Justin Thomas's woes obviously, like not

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<v Speaker 3>similar in like the way they're playing since Scotty Scheffler

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<v Speaker 3>was the best player in the world at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>but puttig's holding him back from winning wreckers setting amounts.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very there's a putting problem, Scottie Scheffler was saying

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<v Speaker 3>it was a media narrative when he's you know, finishing

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<v Speaker 3>in the back have the field week after week, like

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<v Speaker 3>complete opposite of how Scheffler handled that situation was so

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<v Speaker 3>open and talked about it. I think the other thing

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<v Speaker 3>he's been grinding. He's been signing up for events, making

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<v Speaker 3>sure that he's he's qualifying for things like playing at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of last year, you know at the three

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<v Speaker 3>M which he missed the cut, and then the Windom

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<v Speaker 3>which you know he almost chipped in to make the

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<v Speaker 3>FedEx Cup playoffs, playing this week at Amax because he

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<v Speaker 3>needed to make sure that he stayed in the top

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<v Speaker 3>thirty of the owgr for the designated events spot exemption.

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<v Speaker 4>So doing things.

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<v Speaker 3>But like the big thing I see with justin Thomas's game,

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<v Speaker 3>the approach play is back. He has got back that

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<v Speaker 3>that skill that you know makes him an elite player.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not the longest player, he's not the best putter,

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<v Speaker 3>but he is one of the great greatest iron players

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<v Speaker 3>in the game, and that seems to be back whatever

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<v Speaker 3>they tried to do with that golf swing that got

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<v Speaker 3>him into the funk. I believe that they did some

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<v Speaker 3>tickering that got him into a funk. He and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>really what he had to do was get out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>He had to undo what they had, what they had

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<v Speaker 3>tried to change in his golf swing. And it looks

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<v Speaker 3>like it's undone and he is back. All the poo

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<v Speaker 3>pool noodles, the people making fun of the pool noodles

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<v Speaker 3>when he was you know, posting is his you know

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<v Speaker 3>what he was doing to grind on his golf game.

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<v Speaker 4>The pool noodles are working.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm in on the pool pool noodles rehearsals, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in on Justin Thomas for twenty twenty four. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's super important for the PGA Tour. As

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the Rob departure, the PGA Tour needed him

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<v Speaker 3>or speed and or. It'd be great if both of

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<v Speaker 3>them kind of stepped up and became the superstars they

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<v Speaker 3>used to be. And it looks like Justin Thomas is

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<v Speaker 3>on his way back to superstardom.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, there's a lot of Justin Thomas haters out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to name names who might be feeling

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit bashful right now, maybe not speaking up

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<v Speaker 1>and uh and and that would be that would be me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the record as not not digging his vibe,

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<v Speaker 1>but I totally agree with you guys that he has

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<v Speaker 1>handled this downturn really well and it seems like it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like he's back. But it's no surprise really that

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<v Speaker 1>that he's back.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not one hundred percent ready to say Justin Thomas

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<v Speaker 2>is back, And I think that's an interesting conversation in

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<v Speaker 2>and of itself, like, is Justin Thomas back?

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<v Speaker 6>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the courses he's done really well on recently

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<v Speaker 2>like that were declaring him back a lot of driver wedge,

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<v Speaker 2>not the most demanding setups. So I am still interested

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<v Speaker 2>to see how the long game is. He's hitting some

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<v Speaker 2>loose long irons. You didn't have to do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of that at AMX. So I don't think I'm ready

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<v Speaker 2>to say that he's fully back.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love it. Thank you for saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>So should I do what I'm in on?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego, I'm in on San Diego as a as

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<v Speaker 1>a like, you know, a spot to go on a trip,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you're a golfer. There aren't like some like

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<v Speaker 1>super strong courses in San Diego, but it's an extremely

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<v Speaker 1>pleasant place to visit. Obviously, the weather's really good, airports solid,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of fun things to do in town. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to San Diego many times. I have family

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<v Speaker 1>in San Diego, and it's not exactly a hot take

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<v Speaker 1>to say that it's a great place to go, but

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<v Speaker 1>specifically for golfers, you know, if you're looking for like

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<v Speaker 1>a city to go to and play some cool golf

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<v Speaker 1>while also doing other stuff with your family, I think

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego is a great candidate because yeah, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>we've said what we've said about Tory Pines that the

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<v Speaker 1>South Course isn't what it could be, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>public course that's right on the Pacific Ocean cliffs, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty incredible. It's a great place to spend a day.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd recommend the North Course. I think it's I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's more fun to play. But the San Diego

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<v Speaker 1>public municipal course that I can really get behind is

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<v Speaker 1>Balboa Park. There's a lot of things that have gone

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with Balboa Park, and you know, it's the stewardship

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<v Speaker 1>of its architecture, which is best credited to William P.

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<v Speaker 6>Bell.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Billy Bell Senior. Nineteen thirty three or so is

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<v Speaker 1>when he did his design there. And the original design

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<v Speaker 1>looks looks awesome, And obviously they've departed from that quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit as things have grown up around the course.

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<v Speaker 1>But what you still have at Balboa Park is golf

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<v Speaker 1>on big landforms like big bluffs and barankas with views

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<v Speaker 1>of the San Diego skyline. It's an incredible place to

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<v Speaker 1>play golf. And yeah, a lot of the holes are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of funky. They did some bad things to the

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<v Speaker 1>greens and there's there's some things that I wish they

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<v Speaker 1>would fix. But when it comes down to it, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a really outstanding place to play some municipal golf.

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<v Speaker 1>And then after year round you can go to this

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<v Speaker 1>little restaurant that they have. I forget what it's called,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like a great place to get a breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>or a brunch and it overlooks the golf course and

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<v Speaker 1>has views of the skyline and everything. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a wonderful place. So yeah, highly recommend San

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<v Speaker 1>Diego as a golf and kind of destination.

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<v Speaker 5>It's hard to have a bad day in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I've been seeing some pro San Diego

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<v Speaker 2>sentiment on social media recently, so I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>your playing in.

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<v Speaker 5>A good way. It's a trend, it might be. But

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<v Speaker 5>also torri Pines week this week, so.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm mentioning it. By the way, I should

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<v Speaker 1>have probably mentioned that at the beginning. That's why it's

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<v Speaker 1>on my mind. We're going to Tory Pines this this

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<v Speaker 1>week for the the you know, no longer the Farmers

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess it's the Farmer's Insurance this year. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not going to be for very much longer the

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego Open, so let's hope that tournament continues.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do one thing that I'm out on

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<v Speaker 2>and want to address something that Andy said.

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<v Speaker 1>With that.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm out on, I'm out on Scottie Scheffler's putting

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<v Speaker 2>right now, and this.

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<v Speaker 5>Was a little bit of a story over the off season.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he should go to the broomstick.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think every player should experiment with the broomstick.

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<v Speaker 5>To be frank, but as much as I don't. There's

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<v Speaker 5>a whole other.

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<v Speaker 2>Conversation should be banned, the broomstick, which maybe is for

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<v Speaker 2>another day. But Scotti Scheffler's putting looks like a problem,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a huge problem last year held him back.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I fully agree with you Andy

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<v Speaker 2>that he was in complete denial about it. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like some of his comments I'd have to revisit some

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<v Speaker 2>of that. But I feel like some of his comments

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<v Speaker 2>were more around there's a lot of variance in putting,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just going to keep doing my thing and

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<v Speaker 2>it'll come back eventually. I don't know if he went

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<v Speaker 2>full Hey, this is just a media narrative, but I

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<v Speaker 2>would need to revisit some of those comments.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a little bit of crooked media coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of him.

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<v Speaker 5>There might have been there might you.

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<v Speaker 1>Could tell, You could tell that he was there with it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think generally Scotti Scheffler has a mindset that's

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<v Speaker 2>accepting of his own imperfections, whether that's with his mentality

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<v Speaker 2>or with his skills on the course. But all that aside.

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<v Speaker 2>Watched a lot of Scotti Scheffler this past week on

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<v Speaker 2>featured groups. Putting looks off. He hit all eighteen greens yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>really impressive shot one of the low rounds of the day,

0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:28.000
<v Speaker 2>barely gained any strokes putting. The only other day that

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<v Speaker 2>had shot link data so you can capture strokes gained.

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<v Speaker 2>He lost over a shot on the greens. It just

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<v Speaker 2>it looks not great. And sure some of that is noise,

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<v Speaker 2>small sample, but we've now seen for longer than a year.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like a problem. There are some setups where

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to hurt you more than others. Amex is

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere that being a bad putters more of a problem

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<v Speaker 2>than other golf courses on the PGA Tour, But I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's something to watch. Looks shaky and it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to hold him back, and especially some of these soft setups.

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<v Speaker 3>Hard to disagree there, obviously. I think the other aspect

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<v Speaker 3>of this is that, you know, major championships and just

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<v Speaker 3>golf tournaments in general. I think one of the amazing

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<v Speaker 3>things I always think about and about golf is that

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<v Speaker 3>in high leverage situations, you know, the sport always has

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<v Speaker 3>a way of exposing your flaws or making you overcome

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<v Speaker 3>one of your weaknesses. Right, if you think back to

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<v Speaker 3>LACC the Rory wedge on fourteen, right, the wedges have

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<v Speaker 3>been a problem, and you know, sure enough coming down

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<v Speaker 3>the stretch he had to hit a wedge and he didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>You think about Scottie Scheffler.

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<v Speaker 3>To win big time golf tournaments, you have to make putts,

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<v Speaker 3>and you have to make those five foot like. The

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<v Speaker 3>thing that's scary to me is the I almost feel

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<v Speaker 3>like it's similar to like Hideki Massiyama, where when you

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<v Speaker 3>just see these four or five footers that just don't

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<v Speaker 3>even hit the hole. It's not like they're lipping out

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<v Speaker 3>because he's catching a lot of cup and it's just, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it was a good putt, but maybe misrounded

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit. He hits putts that missed the hole

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<v Speaker 3>from four or five feet, you know, fairly not I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna say regularly, but fairly often like you see these,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is the big problem, is that there is

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<v Speaker 3>something fundamentally wrong I think with whether it's mental or

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's technique, I don't know, but like to me,

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<v Speaker 3>he seems like I think one of the one of

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<v Speaker 3>the things we see I and I I you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the current setup is, but it

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<v Speaker 3>seems like he knows the putting's an issue, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>working really, really really hard to not make an issue.

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<v Speaker 3>I think putting's one of those things that, like, the

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<v Speaker 3>more you work at it, sometimes the worse it can get,

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<v Speaker 3>if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's like it's one of those mental games.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, We're all familiar with these where you just yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a it's like free throws. It's uh, there

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<v Speaker 1>are a few athletic things that are that are like this,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're all familiar with it in our own lives,

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<v Speaker 1>right where you just get something in your head and

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<v Speaker 1>becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

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<v Speaker 3>Buffalo kickers in the fourth quarter of God Martin playoff

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<v Speaker 3>Games and you know.

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<v Speaker 5>The right miss.

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<v Speaker 3>But but anyways, I think like one of the things

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<v Speaker 3>with him is that he needs to actually like kind

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<v Speaker 3>of try less because a couple of years ago, the

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not saying the allure of Scottie Scheffler

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<v Speaker 3>is worn off because all he's done is gotten better

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<v Speaker 3>from tea to green, But the allure of Scottie Scheffler

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<v Speaker 3>was that, look at this guy, He's great at everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Like he's really good a really good putter, a really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was a good putter basically until this,

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<v Speaker 1>until the second half of last year. I I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that the stats didn't bear that out at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>but my impression of him was this guy has a

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<v Speaker 1>really strong short game, including.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that was the yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So so anyways, the lure of Scheffler is like, there

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<v Speaker 3>are only so many guys on the PGA Tour who

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<v Speaker 3>are really above average to elite at every skill set,

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel like he was one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh and and now it's you know, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the the the amazing thing about golf, right, It can

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<v Speaker 3>put It can put you through mental gymnastics and and

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<v Speaker 3>wrap you up like a pretzel. And it seems like

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<v Speaker 3>the putters got into that state with with Scheffler.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Andy, what are you out on?

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<v Speaker 4>All right? I'm you know what I'm out on.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm out on on multi course pro am golf.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the PG especially without the without the shot link.

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<v Speaker 4>No shot link.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we got foursomes with on Saturday with you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we got just like guys playing And I'm fine, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>fine with the pro I under stand that you know

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<v Speaker 3>that these these tournaments need to generate cash and have

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<v Speaker 3>some sort of angle. But I think it's way more

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<v Speaker 3>palatable the way that the AT and T Pebble Beach

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<v Speaker 3>is going this year with like a smaller field and

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<v Speaker 3>only a couple days. Like, you just can't have these

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<v Speaker 3>guys out there on the weekend. You can't have the

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<v Speaker 3>field split between three courses like they did this year

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<v Speaker 3>at Palm Springs that they always do. You've got Nick

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<v Speaker 3>Dunlop Dunlap, I got the gips with his name, Nick Dunlap.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't have Nick Dunlap out there threatening to break

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<v Speaker 3>fifty or sixty, you know, shooting up the leader board,

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<v Speaker 3>playing the most That was probably the most consequential round

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<v Speaker 3>of the tournament. And there's no cameras around because he's

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<v Speaker 3>playing Lakita when all the big names are playing PGA

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<v Speaker 3>to ur at PGA West. Like, I don't like the

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<v Speaker 3>split courses, split days for the sake of competition.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the.

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<v Speaker 4>Biggest golf league there is, and like the.

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<v Speaker 3>Competition cannot be sacrificed so often with these setups. Obviously

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<v Speaker 3>we've got one this week with North and South at Tory. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't have shot link this is twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in twenty twenty four. This shouldn't like there should

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<v Speaker 3>be enough personnel enough. There's a multi billion dollar league

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<v Speaker 3>that we should have shot link across two courses. Two

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<v Speaker 3>courses I'm our right with, you know, with no amateurs

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<v Speaker 3>on them, three courses with you know, the t sheet

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<v Speaker 3>full of amateurs like pace a play a disaster. Like

0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.040
<v Speaker 3>you imagine you're trying to win a tournament and you're

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<v Speaker 3>you're playing with a fifteen handicap on Saturday, and I

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<v Speaker 3>know that's really cool for the fifteen handicap. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you look through the list of amateurs, there are a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of heavy hitters and that's why they pay top

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<v Speaker 3>dollar to play at Palm Springs. But you just can't

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<v Speaker 3>have it for the sake the competition, you know. I

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<v Speaker 3>think the PGA Tour needs to make a decision, especially

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<v Speaker 3>with the new what's coming down the pipe with this

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<v Speaker 3>money reshaping the league. Are we a competitive golf leek

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<v Speaker 3>And if the answer is yes, you need to get

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<v Speaker 3>rid of the amateurs that are playing in competitions, particularly

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<v Speaker 3>on the weekend and having your your fields strewn out

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<v Speaker 3>over three courses. That are you know, you could experience

0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:29.840
<v Speaker 3>drastically different weather across them, Like, this is just not

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<v Speaker 3>a sensible thing to do. At least Tory Pines, you

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<v Speaker 3>are confined to like one property and they're intertwined, so

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's experiencing the same weather at the bare minimum. But

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<v Speaker 3>this is this is insanity what is going on at

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<v Speaker 3>PGA West And it was illuminated by Nick Dunlap this

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<v Speaker 3>week shooting sixty while all the other leaders are on

0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:56.760
<v Speaker 3>the stadium course and it's like, wait a second, like and.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no insight.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't provide any insight into this because there's no

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<v Speaker 3>data being collected of other courses.

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<v Speaker 5>Totally agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll say PJ Tour Live got some cameras on Nick Dunlap,

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<v Speaker 2>which was appreciated that but totally agree with you. I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's a lot of issues with it. For one,

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<v Speaker 2>Amex has become a joke of a setup and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a demanding golf course anymore. I know that's changed

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<v Speaker 2>from decades past. But oftentimes people will say but that's

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<v Speaker 2>because they have to get some amateurs around the course,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's a problem. It's either the most competitive golf

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<v Speaker 2>league or it's not so I'm with you, like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not a good excuse for why a setup has to

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<v Speaker 2>be soft.

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<v Speaker 5>Either.

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<v Speaker 2>There's instances of amateurs hitting putts that show the pros

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<v Speaker 2>the lines, which I don't like. I saw a clip

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:44.600
<v Speaker 2>of Cam Champ hitting a putt that was going to

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<v Speaker 2>go in and hit an amateur's ballmark where they had

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<v Speaker 2>marked their ball and so it didn't go in, which

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's Cam Champ's fault, But just in general, I

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<v Speaker 2>think having amateurs on the course at the same time

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<v Speaker 2>as the pros is is truly like, it's just not

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<v Speaker 2>it's not competitive, doesn't scream competition, and it diminishes the event.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a counting event, which is crazy.

0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:09.000
<v Speaker 3>And maybe somebody would say this is what the beauty

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.040
<v Speaker 3>of golf is, that you could have a golf tournament

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<v Speaker 3>and have people out there, but you shouldn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like think about this in the context of any other sport.

0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:20.959
<v Speaker 4>It's crazy. It's bananas, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also really agree with your point that shot

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<v Speaker 2>link now is an expectation and I'm much more engaged

0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:29.439
<v Speaker 2>with an event when I can click through the shots.

0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:31.399
<v Speaker 2>I think even at the Salheim Cup last year, not

0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 2>being able to click through shots. It's just become an

0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:37.439
<v Speaker 2>expectation of a modern golf fan. So without it, the

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 2>event loses a lot of its shine. So I totally

0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:41.760
<v Speaker 2>agree with being out on that, fully out.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want one other thing while we're here. I

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 3>saw I can't remember what I tweeted about this week,

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:54.159
<v Speaker 3>but somebody replied there wouldn't be enough. Oh it was

0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Shane Bacon's commentary about moving some tournaments around a void

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:03.399
<v Speaker 3>the NFL, like maybe having a Monday Tuesday finish to avoid.

0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 3>And one of the things is Network TV has become

0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 3>way more. You know, you see NBAS on Network TV.

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:13.120
<v Speaker 3>More college football is on Network TV, more at night

0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:15.360
<v Speaker 3>that used to be ESPN games or be going moved

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 3>to ABC. So Network TV is more open to the

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 3>eyeballs that live sports springs. But anyways, someone said it

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:24.879
<v Speaker 3>would be hard for the PGA Tour to get volunteers.

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:26.080
<v Speaker 4>Volunteers.

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 3>This is a multi billion dollar organization and volunteers dictate

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 3>when they could go on air. That that also needs

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:40.920
<v Speaker 3>to change the reliance on volunteers and golf needs to stop.

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 3>All these events make enough money, have enough revenue. The

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 3>TV rights are are insane that volunteers should not be

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:57.200
<v Speaker 3>essential to putting a golf tournament on television or running

0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 3>a golf tournament in general. Sorry, that's two things I'm

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 3>out on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't. I don't even feel like I should

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 1>talk about what I'm out on at this point where

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>these are these are such significant things. It is interesting

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>how that you know the role that the pro am

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 1>format has played in the history of the PGA Tour.

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I think it was you know, these events, the Bob

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.199
<v Speaker 1>Hope Classic and the Pebble Beach pro Am, that the

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:27.679
<v Speaker 1>clam Bake were pretty crucial to building up the PGA

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Tour when it wasn't what it is now. But now

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:34.919
<v Speaker 1>the format clearly feels like a relic that kind of

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>holds back the competitive product a bit. So in any case,

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 1>what I'm out on is pronouncing amateur amateur. That's pretty much.

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 1>And it's it's it's ubiquitous on the telecast. There's no

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>announcer who says amateur there there. They've got to be

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:57.440
<v Speaker 1>they've got to be fancy about it and say amateur.

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:00.040
<v Speaker 1>But I put a Twitter poll up about this, and

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it worked out more or less how

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought it would. Where you know about thirty six

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>percent said amateur was the right pronunciation, and sixty four

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>ish percent said amateur was the correct pronunciation, but an

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>astonishing number of people suggested that both should be in use,

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and that you should change your pronunciation of the word

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>based on the context. And I think that's just ridiculous.

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't be expected to, at the drop of a hat,

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, based on the context in which I'm using

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>the word, change my pronunciation and do it reliably. I

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 1>can barely hold it together enough to pronounce a word

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 1>consistently the same way like Doune Lap, for instance. And

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 1>so I think amateur, let's just go with that. It's

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>the US amateur. Nick Dunlap is an amateur, it's amateur hour,

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>it's all amateur. Let's just keep it like that. That's

0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 1>the that's the at least the American pronouncing that. The

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.639
<v Speaker 1>British and Canadians can do whatever they want. But I

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 1>think amateur is the way that I'm going.

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 2>I think I flip back and forth, so I don't

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:09.479
<v Speaker 2>even I don't know what that says, but I think

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 2>I say that's great.

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 1>One way.

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 5>I just flip around, well randomly.

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:17.120
<v Speaker 1>If you do it with intention, then that's the then

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty insane. And there are a lot of people

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:22.400
<v Speaker 1>in the comments suggesting that they could do it with intention,

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:26.119
<v Speaker 1>like based on context could say amateur or amateur, and

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I just, you know, I don't have that kind of

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>brain power.

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:31.680
<v Speaker 4>I think I say amateur. Is that so that's wrong?

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>No, I've heard you say already in this podcast multiple times, amateur.

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:38.400
<v Speaker 3>I think I go back and forth, then I help

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 3>back and forth, because you know why, you know why,

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 3>this is why it's important. Nobody's made it a declaration

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 3>of this is how it needs to be. And that's

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 3>why your take is important, because there you go, I've

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 3>been lost in the woods. I don't know, I don't

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 3>know which one it is, and so I just it's

0:27:56.760 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 3>like when you're guessing about somebody's name and you just

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:05.679
<v Speaker 3>kind of go, uh yeah.

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 4>So that's the way I feel with amateur and amateur.

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 4>All right, let's go out.

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.360
<v Speaker 1>That I've provided some clarity here. Let's uh yeah, let's

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>move on. Are we going to talk about the World

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Tour now?

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 3>So obviously with the DP World Tour in uh starting

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 3>their desert swing, this kicks off the year. It's when

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 3>one of the times when golf's talent is kind of

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 3>split up beyond Live, you know, a historic time where

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 3>we see some of the high profile players in recent

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 3>years outside of live. This was pre Live that we

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 3>would see, you know, some of the most talent go

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 3>to the Middle East to play golf and versus the

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 3>West coast of the United States. But anyways, the real

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 3>talk has been around this restructuring of the PGA Tour.

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Obviously they are taking in and and they're going to

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 3>be taking in an influx of cash, part from private equity,

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 3>it looks like likely part from the Saudi Arabia Arabian

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Public Investment Fund, and with that cash, it is strongly

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:09.239
<v Speaker 3>believed that the that the tour as we know it

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 3>will be greatly reshaped. It makes sense people invest billions

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 3>of dollars and expect to see a return on investment,

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 3>and it's unlikely that the current setup of the PGA

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 3>Tour is has enough growth opportunity for that investment to

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 3>see substantial return. So with that in mind, you know,

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 3>there's been a lot of calls and from you know,

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 3>two very notable people, Keith Pelly, the head of the

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 3>DP World Tour, who will be staying on Uh. He

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 3>took a new job with uh IN in Canada. Uh

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 3>with the Maple Leaf Entertainment right, uh As. I believe

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 3>the name of it.

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>The hockey team, right, He's basically yeah.

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 4>I think it's like a sports entertainment group.

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Though, oh is it? Is it not the hockey team?

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I guess I just glanced these headlines.

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 4>I said, okay, and and then the.

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 3>He and Rory McElroy, obviously one of the biggest players,

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 3>the most influential players, have been kind of hammering the

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 3>idea of a world tour, that the growth in the

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 3>game is going to come from going global. So with

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 3>that in mind, I thought it would be fun if

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 3>we kicked around the idea of what would a world

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 3>tour look like? Where would you go and how would

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 3>the season set up? So I don't know how you

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 3>guys did this. I kind of kept the major championships

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 3>locked into their spots, but I could see a world

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 3>where you could move a major championship if you want,

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.959
<v Speaker 3>if you so wanted. I think that with this investment,

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 3>pretty much anything is on the table here and let's

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 3>let's kick around how you started. So I guess to

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 3>kind of work our way through it. I'd love to

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 3>start by, you know, where did you start your season?

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 3>How did you start your season? And the idea here

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 3>is a fourteen to sixteen event calendar, so these top

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 3>players would play twenty player twenty events.

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Does the fourteen event schedule include the majors now or

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>is this an addition to the majors? It's an addition. Yeah,

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 1>that's that's okay. That's that's how I was operating too.

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>So you want to know how we started, Joseph one,

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>why don't you go first? Here?

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 5>Sure?

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 2>The only quick preamble I'd offer that I have must

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 2>have criteria. So there's some things I'm flexible on, some

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 2>things that are must have here for me real quickly,

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 2>the must haves about the calendar, I think the most important.

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 2>All these are sort of tied for most important, but

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I think it has to have a flow to it.

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 2>That's probably the most important thing. Like other ends like

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 2>the NFL season kind of has a flow. You hit Thanksgiving,

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 2>you hit Christmas. Winter games like this can't be random.

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Why are you going to the city at this time?

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 2>There needs to be a flow Geographically, it's super important

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 2>that each little swing has an identity. So that was

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 2>really important to me. You have to hit the big markets.

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 2>That was really important to me. You have to play

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 2>golf courses at the best time to play them. I

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 2>think Sawgrass is the best example of this where we've

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 2>made a huge compromise playing it in March right now,

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 2>that's not the best time to play TPC Sawgrass. So

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 2>all these courses and cities that we go to need

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 2>to be at the best time of year for that location.

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 2>And then I have two other small pieces of criteria.

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 2>We need to put players in a position to succeed,

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 2>So the cadence with majors and travel needs to make sense.

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Guys aren't going to want to play five weeks in

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 2>a row, for example. And then last piece of criteria,

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I think it'd be cool if when a player's really good,

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>like at the top of the world rankings, you try

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 2>to go to that country. So I Fideki Matsuyama is

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 2>one of the best players in the world. I think

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty cool to try to do an event in Japan.

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 2>So those were the sort of four or five pieces

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 2>of criteria that I had happy to kick off with

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 2>MYE season started.

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 5>But does anybody that's interesting.

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I have a reaction to that actually, because I, you know,

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I thought this through as well as

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>you have, Joseph, So that's right off the bat. But

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and and so I sort of thought of like flow

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 1>and when you're going to the courses as details that

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you can work out later. But clearly it's it's very important.

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>The main thing I thought about in choosing events is

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>which events are already successful, which events are good right now,

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>right because I think the main thing that you need

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>to avoid here is just creating events out of thin

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>air that don't mean anything to anybody. And that's the

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 1>lesson of the WGCs, that's the lesson of live It's

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 1>really hard to just you know, invent a golf tournament

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>and make it feel like something real. And so to me,

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>a World Tour would need to be constructed out of

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the best current pieces of the PGA Tour and the

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:08.760
<v Speaker 1>DP World Tour. You know, something to keep in mind

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:10.960
<v Speaker 1>is that we already have a world Tour in the

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>world of golf. Yeah, it doesn't go to the Americas,

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>but the DP World Tour isn't just in Europe. You know,

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>they go all over the place. There is an infrastructure

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and a schedule in place for something like a world tour,

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 1>and you know, the part of the group that is

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:32.799
<v Speaker 1>negotiating this new schedule in golf, whatever it might look like,

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>is the DP World Tour. And so I think that,

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, for me, just choosing trying to figure out

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>what the best pieces of each tour schedule are and

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 1>amplifying those was was my total focus here. And I

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:50.320
<v Speaker 1>guess I didn't think very much about the practical considerations

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 1>of schedule flow and stuff like that. And so I'm

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 1>very curious to hear what you came up with and

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>how that it's different from what I came up with.

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 3>I think I you know, a couple points here where

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 3>what have been emphasized, just by Rory McElroy National opened,

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 3>they mean something that's kind of what you just hit on, Garrett,

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 3>is having some sort of you know, some national open

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 3>some history that's helpful, going places that are is used,

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, things that work, right.

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, current local support. I was looking for the the

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>antithesis of the Mayacoba or the Singapore tournaments, right, I

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>was looking for the whatever the opposite of that is, uh,

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, the opposite of that. You know, you might

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 1>consider the opposite of that to be the Phoenix Open, right,

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 1>or or the Travelers Championship, or you know, there are

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:42.400
<v Speaker 1>some events on the on the DP World Tour that

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>also have really strong local support and identities and could

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 1>just be you know, turned up a little bit by

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>their introduction into this, you know, elite schedule.

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 3>And then the second thing that was I think I

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 3>believe the quote was venues matter, which I would assume

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 3>that all three of us wholeheartedly agree venues matter. So

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 3>I think one of the things that I looked at

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 3>with this exercise, and maybe I went away, I'm going

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 3>to go away from National Opens a little bit because

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 3>of this, is how would I create something where I

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 3>could get the very very best venues in golf? And

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:25.240
<v Speaker 3>what do the very best venues in golf have in common?

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 3>The answer is they don't want to host year in,

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 3>year out. Outside of like Riviera, GPC, Sawgrass, like, there

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 3>are very few venues that want to host the pros

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 3>all the time. Now, if you made this one of

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:45.799
<v Speaker 3>the beauties of this whole thing, if when you're talking

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 3>about resetting the deck, in my opinion, if you make

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 3>this elevated tour, this world elevated tour, and you say

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 3>from the outset, we are going to visit the best

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 3>golf courses in the world with the best player in

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:05.439
<v Speaker 3>the world, and it's global, and you kind of take

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 3>the philosophy of we're not going there all the time.

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:13.400
<v Speaker 3>What I did was I created areas in which I

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:17.959
<v Speaker 3>could rotate cities and venues within the city. So you're

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:21.760
<v Speaker 3>making an ask of Hey, Congressional let's just say in DC,

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 3>we want to come here with eighty hundred players of

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 3>the best players in the world, and we're going to

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 3>come once every eight or nine years. That's our ask.

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 3>Can you host us once every eight or nine years?

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:41.320
<v Speaker 3>Because that's what the US Open the PGA does so well,

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.320
<v Speaker 3>is that they aren't asking for every year. They aren't

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:47.359
<v Speaker 3>asking for once every three years. They're asking for, hey,

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 3>once a decade. And right now, there are so many

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 3>golf courses in an American in particular, that have made

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:58.280
<v Speaker 3>huge changes in an attempt to get a US Open

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 3>or a PGA Championship that cannot get one like they are.

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 3>They're the dates are gone. So you have this wonderful opportunity,

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 3>particularly stateside, and you're not going you know, in my world,

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 3>you're not going international enough that you're going to dry

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 3>out of those venues, but you have this unbelievable opportunity

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:23.759
<v Speaker 3>to completely reshape, like out with TPC Minneapolis, in with

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, we're going to Aaron Hills, We're going to

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Whistling Straits, We're going to you know, the great courses

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 3>in Chicago. Like you have this opportunity to completely reshape

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 3>the venues in which you visit. And that's what I

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:42.799
<v Speaker 3>think is so exciting if you just switch the mentality

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 3>of how you approach these venues, and you can do

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 3>it with this change.

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:49.439
<v Speaker 5>I'm with you, Andy, I did the same thing.

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Of the fourteen events we did, I think only picked

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:57.799
<v Speaker 2>four golf courses and otherwise they're just regions. And with that,

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I think it's really important to consider the flow. People

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:03.319
<v Speaker 2>can't be flying all over the place. And I think

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 2>like for the way I did it, I basically have

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 2>events kind of in stretches of three, so guys can

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.399
<v Speaker 2>play three events in a row and then have a.

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 5>Few weeks off. So I think we thought about it

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 5>pretty similarly.

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I thought about it really differently from

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you guys, And to me, it sounds suspiciously like you

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 1>are inventing events out of thin air. We are, I

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 1>think I think that. I think that's the biggest problem.

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's the biggest potential danger. Even if

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 1>you're going to the best courses, even if you're going

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 1>to see some great golf course architecture, I think you're

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:39.839
<v Speaker 1>going to have some issues if you're trying to create events,

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, from from the ground up.

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 3>One other thing I wanted to hit on was why

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 3>a world tour makes sense now. The pro game is

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 3>younger than ever, so like one of the reasons that

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 3>a world tour is hard for professional golfer is family time, right, Like,

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 3>you're going to be try a lot. The game is

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 3>younger than ever, so there's less family constraints than ever. Societally,

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 3>people are having kids at older age than ever before,

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 3>so that just works well with what you're trying to do.

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Second off, these are the elite players of the game.

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 3>Almost probably fifty percent of them will be flying private

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 3>from event to event, which makes this type of tour

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 3>much more feasible. There's much more less worries about international

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 3>travel when you're flying private. So those are just two

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 3>things that make this better. And then The other thing

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:43.320
<v Speaker 3>is that the world is getting more and more global

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 3>in terms of companies, so you know where you're going

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 3>to get funds, advertisers, different things. They are more interested

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 3>in global audience than ever before. So those are my

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 3>couple cents on why World Tour makes more sense now

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 3>than it did thirty too. All right, let's take a

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 3>quick break and talk about our sponsor, the USGA, and

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:15.080
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0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:18.680
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0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.360
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0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:33.400
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0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.680
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0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:40.280
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0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:42.520
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0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:46.200
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0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 3>now back to our podcast on the world tour.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you want me to dig off with where my

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 5>schedule started?

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Why don't we go through that? I don't. I

0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know if we maybe maybe we can each give

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 1>like a basic overview of the schedule. Just quickly mention

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the events and get a sense for where we went.

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.359
<v Speaker 1>I can give you the framework of my scheduled.

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 2>People can nitpick maybe like actually that's not the best

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 2>time to go to this particular region of the world,

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 2>so open to that. And then television windows is always

0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 2>going to be something we haven't hit on. But what

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 2>time is this on in America is always going to

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 2>be a big talking point. I didn't focus that much

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 2>on it, but I think I think my schedule kind

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.319
<v Speaker 2>of accomplishes what I wanted to accomplish.

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 3>Real quick with that that America is the biggest television

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:18.880
<v Speaker 3>audience for golf, right one, Europe's the biggest television audience.

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 3>F one curtails when the races are for the European audience.

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Is that a far flung idea for golf? Could we

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 3>see golf being played at night certain places to kurktail

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:31.720
<v Speaker 3>to an American audience.

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 2>As long as the shots that the golfers are hitting

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 2>are not compromised, then I'd be in favor of that.

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:40.839
<v Speaker 2>But I think if you have if they're playing under

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 2>the lights and it's issues with depth, perception and stuff

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 2>to where it threatens the competitive integrity of the event,

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 2>I'd be out on.

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 6>Some of that.

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 3>But also I have a little bit of a night golfer.

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 3>He's a night golfer. Guy just plays his best golf

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 3>under the lights.

0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I do have a little mentality of, like, you know what,

0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 2>suck it up and set an alarm and watch the

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 2>event at two in the morning if you really love golf,

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 2>like I understand that's not always practical, but we're not

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 2>talking about having forty five events. So if you have

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 2>to wake up a couple of nights a year in

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the night for a great event, like

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.359
<v Speaker 2>tennis fans might do for the Australian Open, right now,

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it's okay. So I'll go through the framework

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:22.320
<v Speaker 2>of my schedule. It's in little pods, and then I

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 2>don't think it'll take long to actually run through the

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:26.360
<v Speaker 2>entire thing. I'll just do it succinctly. So I start

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 2>out with a three week stretch, open to changing the

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 2>order of these a little bit, but this is in

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 2>particular region of the world. A Middle East event, an

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:37.879
<v Speaker 2>event in India. I think that's a cool idea from

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Rory hit one of the most populous countries in the world,

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 2>and South Africa. So I'm envisioning this being a little

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 2>three week stretch in January kind of kick off the

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 2>world tour. Then I want to come over to the

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:53.720
<v Speaker 2>United States and hit the West Coast swing. Like Garrett

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 2>was saying, the events that do things well, let's reward them.

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Let's continue that le legacy. I have TPC Scottsdale, which

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I think deserves an event. That's a golf course that's

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:07.920
<v Speaker 2>a good test of professional golf, and it has a

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:11.880
<v Speaker 2>culture to it, the party hole all about it. I

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:14.879
<v Speaker 2>think it's a really cool event. So I go TPC Scottsdale,

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Riviera Pebble and I'd be open to throwing Tory into

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 2>that rotation too. Not my favorite golf course, but historic venue,

0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 2>West Coast Swing. So we do a little three week

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 2>stretch there, so you're up to sixth event, six events.

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 2>Then we go This is the part that may make

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:35.800
<v Speaker 2>the least amount of sense, but I want to do

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:39.359
<v Speaker 2>a little running to the Masters. I have an event

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:42.120
<v Speaker 2>in Japan in March, and I don't know how well

0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 2>you can play in Japan in March, so that's a

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:48.760
<v Speaker 2>question mark. And then I go Australia, give a week

0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:52.359
<v Speaker 2>off and then the Masters. I think having a Royal

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:56.399
<v Speaker 2>Melbourne or some other kind of sand belt golf course

0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 2>into the Masters would be sweet. And maybe there are

0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:01.479
<v Speaker 2>a better time to play in Australia, but I think

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 2>April would be pretty good as a run in. Give

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 2>people a week off to travel back to augusta.

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 4>Quickly.

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I hit sagrass in May into the PGA Championship. So

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 2>back in the US sawgrass should be played in May.

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 2>It shouldn't be played in March. Let's get back to

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:21.719
<v Speaker 2>playing one of the best courses for professional golf in

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 2>America at the right time of year, firm, windy, and

0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 2>then leading into the US Open, I do a little

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 2>America South America Northeast America swing. So I go South America,

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:40.760
<v Speaker 2>potentially Brazil into the American Northeast so could be Long Island,

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:45.279
<v Speaker 2>could be Boston, could be Congressional DC that area into

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 2>the US Open. So that's another little three week stretch

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:49.320
<v Speaker 2>right there, and then I cap it off with a

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:50.240
<v Speaker 2>European swing.

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:52.439
<v Speaker 5>I want to go something.

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Like Spain, especially John Rahm's stature in the game, reward

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 2>him with an event in his home country. Maybe you

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 2>take a week off there and then you go Ireland

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Scotland Open Championship. Open to playing around with that a

0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 2>little bit, but I want to end with sort of

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 2>a lynxy European swing, and I have the Open Championship

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 2>ending the entire world tour. I think it actually be

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:17.920
<v Speaker 2>a pretty cool Maybe the season ends to Saint Andrews

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 2>some years that. I think that flow to the season

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:23.840
<v Speaker 2>makes a lot of sense. Everything's done between January and

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 2>the end of July. In my schedule, they're broken up

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 2>into pods. I think the travel kind of works, and

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:30.839
<v Speaker 2>I think you're playing most of these golf courses at

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:32.759
<v Speaker 2>the best time to play them. So that's how I

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 2>thought about my world tour.

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, the Midwest of the United States is crying,

0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 3>it's in tears.

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 1>It's your own fault for what you did to the

0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Western Open.

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 5>You can that Northeast can move Canada.

0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:53.239
<v Speaker 3>Canada is the outraged once to once ajors are are are?

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:57.719
<v Speaker 3>I think, like my critiques hit way too much, way

0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 3>too much travel. It's way too much time away. There's

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:05.840
<v Speaker 3>no nothing in there that people are never going to

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:10.799
<v Speaker 3>be home and they're effectively playing golf out like on

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 3>the road for seven straight months. It just to me

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:15.400
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't work.

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:18.400
<v Speaker 5>You'll, I mean, I he there's how you do a

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:19.719
<v Speaker 5>world tour that that.

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't twenty there's twenty eight weeks.

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, the very definition of a world tour, Like.

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:29.719
<v Speaker 3>There's twenty eight weeks in your You're you're on the

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:33.319
<v Speaker 3>road for eighteen of them, and you have heavy travel like,

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't think a world tour works unless you extend

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:38.800
<v Speaker 3>to like nine months.

0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 4>I just don't.

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I think that's I think that's asking a lot of

0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 2>golf fans to be engaged for nine months and you

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 2>are competing with the NFL season if you do that. Also,

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:51.680
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, TPC Scottsdale to Riviera and a pebble, like

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:55.320
<v Speaker 2>they're all in the same regions of the This isn't

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's a big ask in terms of

0:48:57.360 --> 0:48:57.839
<v Speaker 2>this is a.

0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 3>Professional This has spoken from somebody that clearly does not

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:02.800
<v Speaker 3>have a child.

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a child, but I'm also these are

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 2>professional athletes. They're twenty eight years old and they can travel.

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm just saying it's a complete game changer.

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, I feel like this is an argument

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 1>against a world tour, right because else do you do it?

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:21.879
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think here's here's how I would do it,

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:25.840
<v Speaker 3>all right here, all right, so I'd start with January.

0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:29.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm in Australia in the Middle East, So that's my

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 3>kind of like Australia has one. It rotates between Sydney

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 3>and the Melbourne courses and other places, like there's so

0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:39.080
<v Speaker 3>many great courses.

0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:40.759
<v Speaker 1>You could say, and this, by the way, is an

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:42.680
<v Speaker 1>invented tournament. This is live Australia.

0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:44.879
<v Speaker 3>You could say it's the Australian Open. You could say

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:49.239
<v Speaker 3>it's Australian Open if you want it, and you could have.

0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:57.440
<v Speaker 3>You mean, there's eight eight courses, I mean Metropolitan, Kingston Heath, Royal, Melbourne, Royal, Adelaide, like,

0:49:57.520 --> 0:50:00.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you could go through so many golf courses

0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:04.960
<v Speaker 3>that could host these tournaments. All right, then you go

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:10.279
<v Speaker 3>to Dubai, Middle East. I mean, listen, let's be very realistic.

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:14.319
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be the Saudi International. Yeah, gonna be on

0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the schedule. Yeah, the piff, if the Piff is bankrolling this,

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 1>We're going to Saudi Arabia.

0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:22.319
<v Speaker 3>We're going to Jedda. We're going to Jedda, We're going

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:26.120
<v Speaker 3>to Royal Greens. That's just the reality of the situation.

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:28.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm not I like, am I happy about it?

0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:29.160
<v Speaker 6>No?

0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 4>Maybe maybe we get a mix.

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:34.959
<v Speaker 3>In Dubai and some other places in the Middle East

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:38.319
<v Speaker 3>and it's a rotation, like right, like may really the

0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 3>premise of of my whole schedule is there is no

0:50:41.880 --> 0:50:45.879
<v Speaker 3>locked in place, there's no place that hosts every year

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 3>and that is part of the lure is that you

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 3>get to see places. There's time off places. I think

0:50:51.200 --> 0:50:55.840
<v Speaker 3>there's real venue fatigue and that needs to be addressed.

0:50:56.200 --> 0:51:01.759
<v Speaker 3>So that is the the that's January. Then we moved

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:04.600
<v Speaker 3>to the back half of February. The back half of

0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:09.200
<v Speaker 3>February is a simple two straight weeks and it rotates.

0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:14.720
<v Speaker 3>We combined La San Diego and Phoenix together. They rotate

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 3>between the three of them. It's Riviera, Tory and Scottsdale

0:51:18.239 --> 0:51:22.760
<v Speaker 3>every three years. Listen, it pains me that I'm taking

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Riviera off the board every year, but I also think

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 3>venue fatigue is real, and with it every three years,

0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:34.040
<v Speaker 3>it's hosting some major championships coming up, it's hosting the

0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:38.279
<v Speaker 3>Olympics coming up. It actually heightens the venue. Then we

0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:41.800
<v Speaker 3>go to San Francisco, Monterey, we go to Harding Park

0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:45.880
<v Speaker 3>Olympic Club, which I'm sure would be happy to host

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:48.759
<v Speaker 3>this event every three years in Pebble Beach. That's our

0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:52.759
<v Speaker 3>three course rotation. Maybe you could throw in some other

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:56.239
<v Speaker 3>things if you wanted to get like NAPA involved, you

0:51:56.280 --> 0:51:59.799
<v Speaker 3>could go up to Silverado or something. But anyways, that

0:51:59.920 --> 0:52:02.319
<v Speaker 3>is is our three event course. There we have an

0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 3>event in the in Florida. You could call it the

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 3>Players Championship, but it will rotate between courses, TPC Sawgrass

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 3>being one of them. Now, contrary to what Joseph said,

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:15.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean one of the reasons they moved the players

0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:19.120
<v Speaker 3>back to March was for better weather or not better

0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 3>better the course to play longer, right, and may. One

0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:25.160
<v Speaker 3>of the things that you don't hit his drivers out there.

0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:29.040
<v Speaker 3>That's one of the issues of the player of TPC

0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:32.200
<v Speaker 3>Sawgrass is that you don't hit a lot of drivers anymore.

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:35.720
<v Speaker 3>A lot of fairways like it. You know, you can't

0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:38.680
<v Speaker 3>hit driver because a creek cross is the fairway and

0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:42.640
<v Speaker 3>and it you know it. They've outgrown TPC Sawgrass in

0:52:42.680 --> 0:52:43.680
<v Speaker 3>a way sadly.

0:52:44.320 --> 0:52:45.759
<v Speaker 5>Do you think it's better in March than May.

0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's better from turf conditions, no, but

0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:52.480
<v Speaker 3>like you do get like windiest time in Florida is March,

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:55.719
<v Speaker 3>so you get more wind and it fits in my

0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:59.319
<v Speaker 3>schedule better to be completely frank, you know, that's one

0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:01.560
<v Speaker 3>of the things. And you can go down to Jupiter.

0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 3>You could play an event down there. There are so

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:06.600
<v Speaker 3>many courses that are about to open, probably some of

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:09.880
<v Speaker 3>them that would be really good tournament hosts. Again, like

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:12.200
<v Speaker 3>one of the benefits that golf has is that it

0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:15.440
<v Speaker 3>doesn't you know, the.

0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:18.080
<v Speaker 4>Box the people coming to an event.

0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 3>It is not a meaningful impact on the finances of

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:28.040
<v Speaker 3>the tour, if that makes sense. So with that you

0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:30.600
<v Speaker 3>can do you get with this tour. You could get

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:34.440
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more creative with venues. Infrastructure doesn't always

0:53:34.440 --> 0:53:38.640
<v Speaker 3>have to be upfront. You could do smaller, smaller fields

0:53:39.000 --> 0:53:43.840
<v Speaker 3>or smaller crowd sizes with that. So anyways, then I

0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:47.720
<v Speaker 3>go before the Masters, my lead in is a Texas Swing,

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:52.080
<v Speaker 3>a Texas event. Texas rotates between Dallas, Austin and Houston.

0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:57.840
<v Speaker 3>So this is the beginning of April. Huge, huge markets

0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:02.640
<v Speaker 3>and plenty of golf courses across those three cities. If

0:54:02.640 --> 0:54:04.920
<v Speaker 3>you if you do that, you know there's probably like

0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:09.040
<v Speaker 3>eight courses that could host between Fort Worth, Dallas, Austin,

0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:12.480
<v Speaker 3>and Houston area. Then we go to the Masters. Then

0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:17.239
<v Speaker 3>we do Southeast. Southeast is Charlotte, Atlanta. If you wanted

0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:19.359
<v Speaker 3>to throw Harbor Town in there, you could throw them

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:22.200
<v Speaker 3>in there, but I don't really care. Obviously, those two

0:54:22.239 --> 0:54:26.160
<v Speaker 3>two places have venues that are ready and willing to host.

0:54:26.160 --> 0:54:29.640
<v Speaker 3>With Quail Hollow in the uh now renovated East Lake,

0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:33.640
<v Speaker 3>so that that would be my after the Masters, We're

0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 3>still you know, we're very US heavy right now, right

0:54:37.120 --> 0:54:38.360
<v Speaker 3>but Yeah, when I've heard.

0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:43.680
<v Speaker 5>Quail Hollow is surviving onto your World Tour, it's once

0:54:43.719 --> 0:54:46.239
<v Speaker 5>every three I just want to believe this.

0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Listen, I got I got after after my Quail Hollow

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:54.840
<v Speaker 3>a racer on a recent podcast. I got multiple texts

0:54:55.280 --> 0:55:00.400
<v Speaker 3>from from people that play on tour. Can't couldn't believe

0:55:00.440 --> 0:55:01.920
<v Speaker 3>the Quail Hollow commentary.

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Get I get Quill Hollow blowback every time, and I

0:55:05.040 --> 0:55:05.640
<v Speaker 2>stand by it.

0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 5>I think they're wrong.

0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:09.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm just putting it on. It's Charlotte's a great city

0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:12.239
<v Speaker 3>to go to. What we're doing trying to do is

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:16.839
<v Speaker 3>create like markets, like I'm trying to reach the entire world, right,

0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:20.640
<v Speaker 3>is what I'm trying to do with this. The next

0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:23.560
<v Speaker 3>events the PGA, So there's one event in between the

0:55:23.600 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 3>Masters and the PGA, which I feel like is is right,

0:55:27.080 --> 0:55:30.760
<v Speaker 3>That's what you need to do with these majors. After

0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:33.799
<v Speaker 3>the PGA, we're going to New York City, and I

0:55:33.800 --> 0:55:37.520
<v Speaker 3>mean you've got like the greatest rotation of courses there

0:55:37.560 --> 0:55:41.239
<v Speaker 3>between Ridgewood beth Page and Plainfield. I mean the old

0:55:41.320 --> 0:55:44.360
<v Speaker 3>Barclays got this right. I mean there's so many great

0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:48.840
<v Speaker 3>golf courses that they could host on. You should always

0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:53.320
<v Speaker 3>have an event in New York, always, always full stop.

0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:58.360
<v Speaker 3>That is the mecca of golf in America. US Open.

0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Then after this, you know what it is, It's summer break.

0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:05.720
<v Speaker 3>This is when people with families can travel the world.

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:11.919
<v Speaker 3>And we're going to England for the BMW Championship. We're

0:56:12.000 --> 0:56:17.120
<v Speaker 3>going to keep that that tradition, that tournament alive. The PGA,

0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:22.399
<v Speaker 3>PGA a historic event. I would rotate it. I'd go

0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:25.239
<v Speaker 3>to different places. It wouldn't be just at Wentworth. I'd

0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:28.880
<v Speaker 3>have other places in the in England in the mix.

0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:34.040
<v Speaker 3>I think, if this is this world tour super successful,

0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:37.319
<v Speaker 3>your your venue list is going to be great that

0:56:37.360 --> 0:56:39.880
<v Speaker 3>you could go to. Whether it's Walton Heath, I mean

0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 3>I think you could. You could take that to Liverpool

0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:45.000
<v Speaker 3>if you want it. I think like you can start

0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:49.759
<v Speaker 3>to eat into these these great venues and eat into

0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:54.600
<v Speaker 3>the major championship stranglehold on these. Next I've got Scotland

0:56:54.600 --> 0:56:57.320
<v Speaker 3>and Ireland. This is one year it's the Scottish Open,

0:56:57.360 --> 0:57:00.280
<v Speaker 3>one year's the Irish Open. They alternate back and forth.

0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:02.920
<v Speaker 3>You've got great courses. Obviously we aren't gonna be going

0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:05.719
<v Speaker 3>to Mount Juliet in Ireland. We are going to be

0:57:05.719 --> 0:57:09.080
<v Speaker 3>going to like La Hinch, Royal County down Port Rush,

0:57:09.280 --> 0:57:13.479
<v Speaker 3>Port Rush, and then obviously in Scotland you can throw

0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:16.200
<v Speaker 3>Renaissance in there. I don't really care for it, but

0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:19.200
<v Speaker 3>then you've got Glenn Eagles Gull and Castle Stewart, and

0:57:19.440 --> 0:57:22.560
<v Speaker 3>I think again you could start to make inroads and

0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:28.320
<v Speaker 3>maybe squeeze out some appearances at some Open championship venues.

0:57:28.960 --> 0:57:32.200
<v Speaker 3>Then you have the Open after that. After that we

0:57:32.280 --> 0:57:35.720
<v Speaker 3>go to Continental Europe. I'm not like the biggest fan

0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:37.680
<v Speaker 3>of the golf courses that are probably gonna host in

0:57:37.720 --> 0:57:40.560
<v Speaker 3>contineal Europe, but I am a big fan of going

0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:44.120
<v Speaker 3>to Continental Europe. You've got Le Golf Nationale Marco Simone,

0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:46.720
<v Speaker 3>you could go to Valderrama. You know there are other

0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:50.240
<v Speaker 3>great courses there. I'm just not really sure how you know.

0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:52.680
<v Speaker 3>I would love if they went to the Netherlands and

0:57:52.720 --> 0:57:56.000
<v Speaker 3>played one of those Harry Colt courses in the Netherlands,

0:57:56.880 --> 0:58:01.360
<v Speaker 3>but that Continental Europe swing could be four countries right there.

0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Then we're back to America, and we're going to do

0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:10.280
<v Speaker 3>New England. This is going to be September New England

0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:14.600
<v Speaker 3>or late August New England. Philly and d C will

0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:19.400
<v Speaker 3>get a rotating event, so it'll be Boston, Philly, d C,

0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:22.840
<v Speaker 3>three awesome golf markets that need events.

0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:27.680
<v Speaker 4>Then we go to the Midwest. We play Chicago.

0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:33.880
<v Speaker 3>The Midwest rotation is Chicago, Minneapolis, Detroit, Toledo, Columbus in Wisconsin.

0:58:34.280 --> 0:58:37.040
<v Speaker 3>So this is like you're getting an event every six

0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:40.040
<v Speaker 3>years or so in your market in the Midwest, but

0:58:40.120 --> 0:58:43.560
<v Speaker 3>it is the Western Open. This is going to be

0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:47.760
<v Speaker 3>a Midwest centric event. We could throw crooked stick in there.

0:58:47.800 --> 0:58:50.600
<v Speaker 3>It'll get it'll get Joseph excited.

0:58:50.280 --> 0:58:50.480
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:58:52.120 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 3>Then we got the Mountains Pacific Northwest at the end.

0:58:56.040 --> 0:58:58.760
<v Speaker 3>This is kind of like September and it's it's kind

0:58:58.760 --> 0:59:01.640
<v Speaker 3>of between Pacific Northwest Venues and Denver.

0:59:02.040 --> 0:59:04.120
<v Speaker 4>Is my is my idea here.

0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:06.240
<v Speaker 3>I'd be open to getting rid of it, and I

0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:08.080
<v Speaker 3>know I'm over my events. But then we go to

0:59:08.160 --> 0:59:09.600
<v Speaker 3>Japan and South I mean.

0:59:09.720 --> 0:59:13.439
<v Speaker 1>Like, if if he said fourteen events, you have.

0:59:13.360 --> 0:59:17.840
<v Speaker 4>Like six America, I have sixteen, sixteen events.

0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh, come on, Andy, Jesus.

0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:25.160
<v Speaker 4>Sixteen twenty events total for these guys.

0:59:25.360 --> 0:59:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like this has been like thirty six events

0:59:28.560 --> 0:59:29.320
<v Speaker 1>South Africa.

0:59:29.560 --> 0:59:31.400
<v Speaker 3>You're just I'm just going to a lot of places.

0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:35.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm rotating the Japan, South Africa, and India all in

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:38.600
<v Speaker 3>a mix. Those rotate every three year, and then South

0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:41.080
<v Speaker 3>America to finish, I could cut out Okay.

0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:44.160
<v Speaker 1>One event, you have one event in your entire schedule

0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and in the in Asia, yes, yeah, okay, South I

0:59:50.040 --> 0:59:52.600
<v Speaker 1>mean yeah, that's how you get a lot of events

0:59:52.600 --> 0:59:55.600
<v Speaker 1>in America. I guess is by it still needs to.

0:59:55.560 --> 0:59:59.520
<v Speaker 4>Be American meetric because of the television. That's one of

0:59:59.560 --> 1:00:01.040
<v Speaker 4>my Well, that's the thing is it's.

1:00:00.920 --> 1:00:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Not a world too. I feel like it's not a

1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:02.960
<v Speaker 1>world tour.

1:00:03.760 --> 1:00:06.400
<v Speaker 3>That's fine, you can you can propose this. The point

1:00:06.440 --> 1:00:08.480
<v Speaker 3>of this was not to have the same schedules.

1:00:08.840 --> 1:00:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I think that that the PGA Tour is

1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:16.480
<v Speaker 1>currently about as international as that schedule. You just na

1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:20.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe except for the Middle East portion of it. Well,

1:00:20.280 --> 1:00:24.400
<v Speaker 1>THEA has the Scottish Open, the Open. Uh, the PGA

1:00:24.520 --> 1:00:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Tour goes to Japan right now. I mean, I guess Australia.

1:00:29.520 --> 1:00:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Did we go to South Africa?

1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:33.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's in the it's in the Japan South Africa.

1:00:34.240 --> 1:00:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh, we included that in Asia. Yeah, so Africa and

1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Asia are.

1:00:41.960 --> 1:00:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Look I think my two career Andy, why what I

1:00:44.280 --> 1:00:46.720
<v Speaker 2>would push back on one. I think it's asking a

1:00:46.760 --> 1:00:49.080
<v Speaker 2>lot for people to pay attention to, like any kind

1:00:49.080 --> 1:00:52.840
<v Speaker 2>of standings or something from January through like October. I

1:00:52.840 --> 1:00:55.040
<v Speaker 2>think it lands you sort of in the same spot

1:00:55.040 --> 1:00:57.080
<v Speaker 2>the PGA Tour was in. When you have your golf

1:00:57.560 --> 1:01:00.440
<v Speaker 2>golf year round, it doesn't actually feel like it's It

1:01:00.520 --> 1:01:04.120
<v Speaker 2>just feels like this big nebulous there's always golf happening.

1:01:04.400 --> 1:01:06.240
<v Speaker 2>So that would be one thing I would push back on,

1:01:06.360 --> 1:01:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and the other thing would be I think you lose

1:01:09.040 --> 1:01:12.400
<v Speaker 2>flow when you do like a US Open could be

1:01:12.440 --> 1:01:15.440
<v Speaker 2>in the Northeast America and then you go overseas for

1:01:15.480 --> 1:01:18.280
<v Speaker 2>the Open Championship, and then you come back to America

1:01:18.320 --> 1:01:22.200
<v Speaker 2>and go back to like New York Midwest. I think

1:01:22.240 --> 1:01:26.200
<v Speaker 2>these need to feel like swings, and don't. I don't

1:01:26.280 --> 1:01:29.040
<v Speaker 2>like leaving a particular region and then coming right back

1:01:29.080 --> 1:01:32.040
<v Speaker 2>to it. I think right now in golf, August already

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<v Speaker 2>feels bland and like the season's over at the Open Championship,

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<v Speaker 2>and I kind of think the schedule you're proposing perpetuates

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<v Speaker 2>that feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, I'm just trying to trying to I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 3>to make a global I'm trying to get to the

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<v Speaker 3>best venues. I'm trying to give everybody a little splash.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to exclude anybody. I'm trying to This

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<v Speaker 3>is my way of including everybody, including the great great

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<v Speaker 3>country of America, include you know, India. You know, give

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<v Speaker 3>everybody a little splash. I you know, I I would

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<v Speaker 3>love to see DLF in India every three years. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to see it every year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, I think where I'm coming down and

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<v Speaker 1>hearing this discussion is that I don't really want a

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<v Speaker 1>world tour. I don't think it's a good idea and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it I just I just don't think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a way to make it work that would be

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<v Speaker 1>way better than what we currently have. And maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>just an American centric perspective, but I think a PGA

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<v Speaker 1>tour schedule is obviously really flawed, and we need to

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of the FedEx Cup playoffs. There's there's stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that we need to do. Maybe there's a new way

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to fund the biggest tour in the

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<v Speaker 1>world right now, and it's going to involve the PIFF

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<v Speaker 1>and some of these private equity guys that I'm supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be in off. But once we enter that money

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<v Speaker 1>from those sources into this, they're going to start determining

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule. I mean, I guess there's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>motivation to make it globally popular, and that could have

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<v Speaker 1>a good influence. But we're going to Royal Greens, We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to Saudi Arabia every year, like it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. Maybe we're going twice a year. Maybe we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go play that that you know, freakish course

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<v Speaker 1>that Robert Trent Jones Junior just built on Sindala Island.

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<v Speaker 1>All the all the everybody's gonna stay in yachts and

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<v Speaker 1>and play that course. I mean, that's the thing is

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't I just don't see things getting better here.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry to be really pessimistic about it, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the elements of Andy's schedule that really appeal to

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<v Speaker 1>me are the elements that are already in place on

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<v Speaker 1>the PGA tour. Hold on In any case.

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<v Speaker 5>Hold on the PGA tour schedule is broken. We cannot.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want I don't want to just sweep over

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<v Speaker 2>though how bad the end of the PGA Tour schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>This seasons feels over once we hit June. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>the US Open and the Open Championship. Some people might

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<v Speaker 2>get excited for some other events like the Scottish nothing

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<v Speaker 2>else is exciting. The playoffs stink, The Tour Championship stinks.

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<v Speaker 2>That has to get fixed. So I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>just like wave minds over.

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<v Speaker 3>It's over once you hit the Masters.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, once the Masters.

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<v Speaker 3>Has played, PGA Tour events do not matter because you

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<v Speaker 3>enter the.

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<v Speaker 1>Majors because it's major season. Yeah. Well, they screwed themselves

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<v Speaker 1>over by consolidating major season.

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<v Speaker 4>They did.

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<v Speaker 3>They actually like that two month break between the Masters

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<v Speaker 3>and the US Open gave the PGA Tour relevance, and

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<v Speaker 3>especially when they had the players in May, it was

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<v Speaker 3>actually like really good for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, And it's it's kind of funny that they

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<v Speaker 1>shot themselves in the foot here, you know, because the

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<v Speaker 1>PGA Tour really kind of exerted its influence to to

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<v Speaker 1>make this major schedule as consolidated as it is, and

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<v Speaker 1>as a result, that's me major season. It's not PGA

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<v Speaker 1>Tour season. It's major season. The PGA Tour is herky

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<v Speaker 1>jerky around that time. It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we're landing in a place that's very

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<v Speaker 2>similar to the existing PGA Tour schedule, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>broken like that. That is the second half of the

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<v Speaker 2>schedule stinks and that needs to get solved. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I'm shocked at how similar to the existing product.

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<v Speaker 2>Your sentiments both seem to be. Right now, mine, isn't

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<v Speaker 2>it all?

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't even heard of mine yet. I haven't even

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<v Speaker 1>gone into it.

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<v Speaker 5>Just the sentiment you're expressing, go ahead, yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 1>Then yeah, the sentiment I'm expressing is that this this,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're imagining here probably won't work.

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<v Speaker 3>But you've got a real case of the Mondays here, Garrett.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I really well, I just spent a week

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<v Speaker 1>of snow days, So my apologies, but I might be

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<v Speaker 1>in the wrong frame of mind for an optimistic take here.

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<v Speaker 1>In any case, my you know, I will say this,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever I came up with here on my little notes

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<v Speaker 1>document is not yearly as well thought out as what

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<v Speaker 1>you guys did. I've been talking smack about your guys'

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<v Speaker 1>schedules all along here, but I didn't do nearly as well. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>the extent of my research was to reach out to

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<v Speaker 1>our friend Ben Coley, who follows the European Tour quite

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<v Speaker 1>closely writes for Sporting Life dot com, and what I

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<v Speaker 1>asked him was basically, what are the events currently on

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<v Speaker 1>the DP World Tour that really work? And basically his

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<v Speaker 1>response was, well, if we're pushing to the side for

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<v Speaker 1>a moment, the Scottish Open, the Irish Open, the BMWPGA

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<v Speaker 1>and to an extent, the British Masters, because those feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the four most significant events right now on the

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<v Speaker 1>DP World Tour the things that really work. That the

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<v Speaker 1>British Masters obviously is a little bit in limbo. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>some events that work would be the Dutch Open, which

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<v Speaker 1>has gone by various names. I think it might be

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<v Speaker 1>the KLM Open or something like that. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>the seat all my Continental ere Continental National Opens made

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<v Speaker 1>in Denmark, and the suit All Open, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>for people who don't know, is that is basically the

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<v Speaker 1>Belgian Open. And so these are the events that currently work,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I feel like if we're going to construct

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<v Speaker 1>a world tour, that the way to do it that

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<v Speaker 1>would keep intact some of the traditions of these tournaments

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<v Speaker 1>and incorporate tournaments that that truly work right now, where

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<v Speaker 1>we're just leveraging what we're doing well right now. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd have significant elements of the current PGA Tour schedule

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<v Speaker 1>and we'd have and sprinkle in the parts of the

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<v Speaker 1>dp World Tour schedule that work quite well. So the

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<v Speaker 1>basic structure that that I ended up coming up with

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<v Speaker 1>is that, like you guys, I'm looking at the West

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<v Speaker 1>Coast Swing and thinking, we've got to keep a significant

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<v Speaker 1>amount of this in place because we can't just race

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<v Speaker 1>the Phoenix Open. We can't just erase the LA Open.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't do that.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>If we construct a world Tour, we have to include

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<v Speaker 1>those events somehow. And so yeah, Phoenix Open, Genesis Invitational,

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<v Speaker 1>then we start to get into TPC Sawgrass and Arnold

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<v Speaker 1>Palmer Invitational territory. We keep those events intact. Then guess

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<v Speaker 1>what it's major season And the first three majors are

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<v Speaker 1>the Masters, the PGA Tour, the PGA Championship, and the

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<v Speaker 1>US Open. All of those are American majors, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we're staying in the States at that point, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>for the World Tour we sprinkle in the Canadian Open

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<v Speaker 1>and the Memorial between those majors. Then we're onto the

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<v Speaker 1>European swing. Right. We're constructing a schedule around the Open,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're trying to construct it out of current national opens.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm thinking Scottish Open, Irish Open, the British PGA,

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<v Speaker 1>the BMWPGA and the Spanish Open. But the thing is

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<v Speaker 1>like to borrow Andy's rotating idea. Maybe some years you

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<v Speaker 1>sub in the suit All Open for the Irish Open,

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<v Speaker 1>or you sub in the Dutch Open for the Spanish Open. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you just get a couple of European national opens and

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<v Speaker 1>sprinkle them in around the Open Championship. So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>that's the European Swing, but again constructed out of pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of the current DP World Tour schedule that work. And

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<v Speaker 1>then basically for the h for winter you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking November December, and yeah, the year round schedule is

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<v Speaker 1>a problem, but I'm not sure how you avoid it

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<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about a world tour. I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the Zozo Championship that you know, it's a relatively new event,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think we can agree that it's extremely well supported,

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<v Speaker 1>and that if you keep doing it in Japan that

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to come out and make it a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>especially as long as Hideki is on tour. You also

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<v Speaker 1>have around that part of the schedule Australian Open, South

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<v Speaker 1>African Open, and then you have your Middle East events,

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<v Speaker 1>right Dubai Desert Classic. You probably need to have the

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<v Speaker 1>Saudi International, but I didn't include that in my fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>schedule because nobody fantasizes about going to the Saudi International

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<v Speaker 1>as part of World Tour. So that's the basic structure

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<v Speaker 1>of the schedule that you know for me. An interesting

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<v Speaker 1>question is whether a Korean championship would be really successful now.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Kley told me that the most recent effort by

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<v Speaker 1>the DP World Tour to go to Korea didn't work

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<v Speaker 1>out completely to plan. It wasn't as great as they

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<v Speaker 1>were hoping. But if you were to have your Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Kims and your Seawou Kims and your song jms playing

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<v Speaker 1>in that event instead of players who are less known,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it would really work right because that's obviously a

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<v Speaker 1>country that is really into golf, maybe more women's golf

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<v Speaker 1>than men's golf at this point, but who knows, Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that could be a big thing and a big piece

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<v Speaker 1>of this World Tour. But that's basically how I thought

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<v Speaker 1>of the schedule, trying to just take the tournaments that

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<v Speaker 1>have some identity about them, that are locally supported, and

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<v Speaker 1>make the schedule out of those pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one thing to always keep in mind is

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<v Speaker 2>what does it look like the run up into a major?

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<v Speaker 2>So it'd be helpful to see some stuff on paper. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's the way the schedule looks like, then in

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<v Speaker 2>the run up to the PGA or in the run

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<v Speaker 2>up to the US Open, which events are golfers playing in? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>those are important questions, and I think they're essential to

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<v Speaker 2>a good schedule and not just after thoughts. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's an important thing to.

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<v Speaker 1>Consider, absolutely, And you thought that through better than I did,

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<v Speaker 1>But I just think of it. You know, like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying that the Dutch Open is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>part of the World Tour this year, move it two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks before the Open or the week after the Open,

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<v Speaker 1>right because you have the Scottish Open as an established

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<v Speaker 1>lead in tournament for the Open Championship. Okay, keep that

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<v Speaker 1>and then maybe the week after the Open Championship we

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<v Speaker 1>say Okay, let's stay in Europe one more week and

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<v Speaker 1>let's go play the Dutch Open.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we got to avoid week after major events.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you're gonna be two weeks after

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna are you gonna say are you gonna say, hey, Jupiter, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to stay in.

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<v Speaker 4>Issue.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why these events happened the week after. And this is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, is there's like travel, travel considerations, and you

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<v Speaker 3>have to have travel considerations.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just thinking about this makes my head spin

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. And you know, one of the current

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<v Speaker 1>realities right now is that a lot of the best

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<v Speaker 1>golfers in the world are American and almost all of

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<v Speaker 1>the best funded tournaments in the world are based in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, and that includes live live is maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even even more proof that it's just hard to make

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<v Speaker 1>a world tour schedule work because most of their tournaments

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<v Speaker 1>are in America right now.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's fair.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think that's the reality that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys made fun of mine.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody thinks theirs is the right way to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the beauty of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't really think mine is the way

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. Because I don't think there is a

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<v Speaker 1>right answer here. The fact is this is just hard

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<v Speaker 1>and I would like to see Rory and Keith Pelly

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<v Speaker 1>get more specific about what they actually mean when they

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a global tour.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the real answer I think to the to solving this,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is this is so crazy that I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even put it as as my solf. The PGA has

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<v Speaker 3>to become an international major.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh I'm I'm I think I'm with you on that.

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<v Speaker 5>I was going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Ask how the world. That's how you create the world tour,

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<v Speaker 4>because then you can push your major, that major, the

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<v Speaker 4>last major, into a different season, and then you create

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<v Speaker 4>relevance through a longer period of time. The PGA being

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<v Speaker 4>American centric really screws up, like how you create a

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<v Speaker 4>season of golf. So if you could take that PGA

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<v Speaker 4>and push it, let's just say to October, and maybe

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<v Speaker 4>it's in Australia, maybe it's but when you push it

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<v Speaker 4>back that far, then everything in between has more significance.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's how you go from January to October. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the real solution. It's just you know, it took us

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<v Speaker 4>a long time to get here. I'm sure a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people have probably been yelling this this whole podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>But that is the solution. You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I what the question that bubbles up for me every

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<v Speaker 1>time somebody suggests that the PGA Championship go international is

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<v Speaker 1>what happens to the PGA of America. Well, that's this

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<v Speaker 1>a PGA of America because it's not the International League

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<v Speaker 1>of PGAs that that runs the PGA Championship or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they're called. It is the PGA of America.

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<v Speaker 4>How about this? How about this?

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<v Speaker 3>They raised they raised let's just say they raised six

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollars mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>The first thing they the the.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the SSG private equity guys in the in the bonesaw.

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<v Speaker 3>First first order business. We purchased the PGA. We make

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<v Speaker 3>it ours, We own the Ryder Cup and the PGA.

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<v Speaker 3>We can rebrand the PGA to whatever we want and

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<v Speaker 3>it can become this, you know, maybe Saudi Arabia gets

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<v Speaker 3>a major.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's that's the.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's where this is leading, right because what

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<v Speaker 1>what's really going to determine the structure and the character

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<v Speaker 1>of a world tour schedule is where the money is

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<v Speaker 1>coming from and what they want.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you if that PGA became a world major.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how you open up the schedule too, and it

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<v Speaker 3>makes it cohesively, makes more sense, and you can have

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<v Speaker 3>a longer schedule that fits. Yeah, the premise of off

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<v Speaker 3>season golf is so big on off season off season offseason.

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<v Speaker 3>If you play in the NBA Finals, you go from

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<v Speaker 3>June and then camp reports in October. So there's what

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<v Speaker 3>that's three months off if you're if you're in the

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Major League Baseball, and you play into October

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<v Speaker 3>and then catchers and pitchers report, I mean they played

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<v Speaker 3>o November in the World Series, catchers and pitchers report

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<v Speaker 3>in February, right, So you know, like that's not a

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<v Speaker 3>long off season off The idea of like a five

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<v Speaker 3>month off season is completely not feasible. No, but none

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<v Speaker 3>of these guys, and golf is not a sport where

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<v Speaker 3>you take five months off. You know, like reps matter,

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<v Speaker 3>being sharp matters, and you will be at a disadvantage

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<v Speaker 3>to players that played once a month for the five

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<v Speaker 3>months leading leading into the next you know week and

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<v Speaker 3>these So I think the idea of like a big

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<v Speaker 3>long offseason is a complete farce. I think like what

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<v Speaker 3>these guys want is is like October mid October till

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<v Speaker 3>January tenth.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what they want.

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<v Speaker 2>Three months feels like an appropriate offseason, enough that you

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<v Speaker 2>people long for golf again and enough that players get

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<v Speaker 2>some rest without getting rusty. So I'm with three months.

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<v Speaker 2>That seems reasonable.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we've batted this around enough. If you've got comments,

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<v Speaker 3>let us know, you know, if you want to build

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<v Speaker 3>your own schedule, let us know. Maybe we'll start a

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<v Speaker 3>weekend chat, or we'll start a little discussion post on

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<v Speaker 3>on club TFE about this if your member. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you Joseph, thank you Garrett, and be back later

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<v Speaker 3>this week with another episode.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, thank you, thank guys.

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