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Speaker 1: We got a packed house, let's hear it. Eight and

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Speaker 1: two Seahawks. I think they're all here for Paul Moyer. Though,

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Speaker 1: definitely for Paul. I can't disagree with that. But now

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Speaker 1: you're the one who has a jersey out in the crowd. Yes,

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Speaker 1: from the mother of our board up. They got him,

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Speaker 1: they got it back twenty nine Thomas. Oh, maybe that's it.

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Speaker 1: Michael Bumpus is here also, Mike, how are you doing? Lam?

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Speaker 1: All right? Man, I'm right, you got some coattail right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, thanks for having me. Wait, sorry, you got

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Speaker 1: some time now I think about you know, it happens

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Speaker 1: every year. We had fun because we went to his

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Speaker 1: playoff game and had a you got us some really

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Speaker 1: nice seats on sideline. Yeah, that was fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: Then we come back to snow fall Me where the

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Speaker 1: team that beat us resides. Pretty much you're pretty much

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Speaker 1: sorry about that. But hey, the Seahawks are eight and two, man,

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Speaker 1: and we haven't had a chance to talk about this,

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Speaker 1: but by the way, tonight we're going to talk to

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Speaker 1: the Professor. Of course. In the next segment about seven fifteen,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to Dave Spadaro from Philadelphia Eagles dot Com.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of their John Boyle basically on the phone.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Trey Flowers later on. Keene Griffin

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Speaker 1: is going to play a video game of some sort

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Speaker 1: with Taylor Jacobs and they'll talk. But I mentioned the

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Speaker 1: Professor Clayton, but mostly let's recap that game. Man. The

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Speaker 1: more I go over that game against San Francisco, the

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Speaker 1: more exciting it becomes for me. I guess and start

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Speaker 1: off with the running game and the Seahawks this year

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Speaker 1: their run game, they've faced five, I'm sorry, three top

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Speaker 1: five rush defenses and they've averaged one hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: because remember they started off kind of slow last year

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Speaker 1: their stride. They're they're going up. When they go up

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Speaker 1: I like where the offense, excuse me, is right now?

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Speaker 1: he runs downhill. And also what helps the run game

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Speaker 1: is the threat of Russell Wilson. You know, they can't

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Speaker 1: These receivers because they proven that one they can they

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Speaker 1: be Houdini back there then played backyard football, and if

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Speaker 1: there was ever an example of backyard football, it's the

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. I mean a lot of these players are

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Speaker 1: I think they figured out who they are. Before get

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Speaker 1: to you, Paul, that I thought you mentioned Chris Carson.

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Speaker 1: Their defense is so good and they still are good

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Speaker 1: even offensively. Their running game was complex. What they were

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Speaker 1: the statistics. We beat San Francisco. We outperformed them, I

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Speaker 1: he's a fantastic run player, but he's a great pass

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Speaker 1: rushers too. You have to at times, you've got to

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424
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Speaker 1: such a great game. Um, they just came with executing

425
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: the game plan. I think we felt good about it.

426
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: Everybody was all all in, bought in, and yeah it

427
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: was a big game. I think everybody just wanted to

428
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Speaker 1: play in it. Of course, you're happy, excited about both teams.

429
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Speaker 1: It's just a really good game, a real good game

430
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Speaker 1: for Fuss because we won. For sure. I hear some

431
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Speaker 1: kids in the background. They are they they're having fun

432
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 1: right now. Oh yeah, definitely. It's my daughter. I'm putting

433
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Speaker 1: away from a movie time. Wait, what did she dress

434
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Speaker 1: up as for Halloween? Do you take her trick or treating? Yes,

435
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Speaker 1: she was. She was a doctor. We went to about

436
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 1: we went to a kind of cold But yeah, she's

437
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: a doctor. I can't remember the doctor's name that she is.

438
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Speaker 1: And I'm so sorry, but I know it's one of

439
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: the shows. I'm mad. I don't know it right now, Trey.

440
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: I I played safety and and they with injuries. I

441
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: had to play a little corner in the NFL, and

442
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: I didn't do it very well at all. But you again,

443
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: you were you were safety in college. You made the transition,

444
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,719
Speaker 1: you know two years now, you know how comfortable are

445
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: you with that? Do do you ever want to go

446
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: back to safety or as cornered the position for you

447
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: in your future. I'm definitely I just labeled myself a

448
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Speaker 1: defensive back. I like to label myself as a defensive back. No,

449
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: that I can play corner is definitely good. No, that

450
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 1: I can play safety is definitely good. I just want

451
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: to play foot ball as long as I can. So

452
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: however I'm gonna help the defense, I would be good.

453
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: I think for that, hey, corner and that's where I'm happy. Well,

454
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: I think we're pretty happy with it. And by the way,

455
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: you got just a horrible call on that one third

456
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: down play that you guys would have been off the

457
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: field in that first drive against the forty nine ers.

458
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Speaker 1: How frustrating is that for you? I mean it's such

459
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: a subjective call now pass interference, But you know, how

460
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: do you try to stay in it mentally? Because I

461
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: know you didn't think that was passion terferens on that

462
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Speaker 1: one call. Definitely you know it was. I mean, it's

463
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: just the NFL that we play in today. I just

464
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: got to find a way to get my hands a

465
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: little lower and take them off a little sooner so

466
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: they can't make that call. We gotta get up to

467
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: steal them. There down, there's a critical down and a

468
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: very bad, tentedy, very bad call. But I hear you.

469
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Speaker 1: You never you never really seemed to overreact to those

470
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Speaker 1: bad calls. Like your demeanor, you're you're even killed most

471
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Speaker 1: of the game. Is that's something that's always been a

472
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Speaker 1: part of you or something that you've learned as you've

473
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Speaker 1: gotten older. Definitely learned that I got older. Um, when

474
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Speaker 1: I was younger, it was probably would you. I don't

475
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Speaker 1: have bad body language or something that I showed I

476
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Speaker 1: want people. But now it's just I can't change it,

477
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: and then I again to change it. So I just

478
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Speaker 1: go to the next play and try to make another play,

479
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Speaker 1: you know, try When I see you are around, I

480
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: mean you're very laid back dude, But well, what do

481
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: you do to get yourself fired up? I mean everybody

482
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: does it differently. Are you pretty calm on game day

483
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: or do you get fired up? What do you do?

484
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: Do you listen to music? What to get in game mode?

485
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty much the saying I don't really like being.

486
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Speaker 1: Well now I don't like being I'm not really a

487
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Speaker 1: guy that you're gonna see scream or sing a lot

488
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: but I just love actually gives me going. I know

489
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: I can play football still, so I'm gonna give it out.

490
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: I got what is uh? What is quad Diggs brought

491
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: to the table? Man? It looked like one It just

492
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: you guys look really calm and I don't want to

493
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: put too much on that him starting, but you guys

494
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: played so well in the secondary last week. But but

495
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: what is he brought to the table? And how do

496
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: you guys mailed that quick? With him coming in just

497
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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, it's definitely I'm even brought in

498
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Speaker 1: another v's another experience for the room. So him talking

499
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: through ball and we kind of just you know, they

500
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: hit it off and he plays dB. We feel like

501
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: we're all the same. And he's from Texas. I kind

502
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: of I knew him a little bit before who played

503
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: on each other's team. So I'm at a metal football camp.

504
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: He's a real cool guy there, and it was just

505
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: still building now. Yeah, it just seems like communication was

506
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: a lot better and we got a chance to talk

507
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: to him as the first time I had talked to him,

508
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: and he just seems like a great communicator and that's

509
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: that's really important back there, right, I mean, if you

510
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: have a vet back there, he's getting everybody lined up.

511
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 1: I mean that's got to make a huge difference. Yeah, definitely.

512
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's just yeah, I mean it's just kind

513
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: of everybody knowing that stuff, and then we could communicate

514
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: a little better, everybody being on the same level, thinking

515
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: the same and I know we'll just keep yelling the

516
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: time it goes off, all right, Tray, Hey, listen man,

517
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: thanks you so much for taking the time. Enjoy your

518
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: little girl and keep playing the way you're playing, and

519
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: we're excited to watch it. Thanks for thanks for joining us,

520
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: Buddy said, thank you. Sorry about the noise a little

521
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: bit in the back. We all got kids here. We

522
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: all got kids are part of the show anytime. Yeah, exactly,

523
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: all right, thanks Tret, I take care there he goes

524
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: Trey Flowers. Man, he has been such ah. You forget

525
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: that he was a conversion guy. You know, hard move guys. Yeah, well,

526
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: I mean you would know better than anybody going from

527
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: safety to corner. I mean it was just in our day, Paul,

528
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean nobody did that. Like now they're taking defensive

529
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: lineman making them offensive lineman, and you know, and then

530
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: look at like justin britt he goes from tackle to

531
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: guard to center. That was unheard of. I remember Bruce Matthews.

532
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: He was a pro bowler, that's how good of a

533
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 1: football player he was. He played for the the Houston

534
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: Oilers and he was a pro bowler at tackle, guard

535
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: and center. But that was unheard of. But you know,

536
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: to take a guy who had safety's entire career plus

537
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: he kind of built like a safety. Although Pete loves

538
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: the long you know, long arms, long legs. As far

539
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: as playing cornerback, Chadge's geometry of the throw guys, it

540
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: absolutely does. You cannot throw, you know, a flat go route.

541
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: I mean you've got to try to drop that over

542
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: a guy and you can actually trail a little bit

543
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: on that. And we talked about that, you know, many

544
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: years ago through Richard Sherman. The first guy really that

545
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: I remember they moved from safety to corner guy named

546
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: Dave Brown Seattle Sea, Oxually he was an All American

547
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: at Michigan at safety. And then the first one that

548
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: the National Group knew about was a guy named Ronnie Lott.

549
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: Ryan Lott was a safety at USC. They moved him

550
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: to corner when he was at San Francisco's rookie year.

551
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: He played a few years at corner and before he

552
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: moved back to safety. Again, it's rare used to see

553
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: guys who were corners moved to safety. Maybe they didn't

554
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: quite have that speed, but you know pretty good tacklers.

555
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: It's such a hard movement. And what's so hard about

556
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: it is it's not the speed necessary. It's not that

557
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: you can't match up, it's can you trust that you

558
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: can jump or route? And that is so hard and

559
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm starting to see it. And that's what we saw

560
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: last week. They are tight coverage. You that third down

561
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: the play I was talking about, no one's gonna remember

562
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: it I do is on the first drive. It's like

563
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: a third down and six is right on the sideline.

564
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: He made a great play. We're off the field. They

565
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,719
Speaker 1: call passenger fans. To me, it was horse. I'll leave

566
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: the rest of the word out. It was I thought

567
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: it was a bad call. He got to let guys play.

568
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: But he's trusting jumping routes. Now, that is the hardest

569
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: thing for a corner to do, is to trust it.

570
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: And you're starting to see more of that from Trade well,

571
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: and I think that's important for him because he's gotten

572
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: a couple of pis his rookie year and you can understand.

573
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: But where he doesn't trust himself. There's been a few

574
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: times where he's gotten pis and I'm like, you didn't

575
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: You didn't need to hold him, you were there, you

576
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: were gonna any He'll just kind of hook him a

577
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: little bit. And I think it's you know, I've heard

578
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: it described as you know, you kind of panic at

579
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: the end, you think, oh, I gotta get this, and

580
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: so you grab grab some cloth whatever ever. But you know,

581
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: I've seen two or three of his pis where I'm like,

582
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: he didn't have to do that. He's he's got and

583
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: he'll get that five nine day. I mean, remember remember

584
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: what pete teachers stay in the upfield shoulder. I mean

585
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: that's their big thing. You can play tight coverage, but

586
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: you we're never in a trail possession. That's not what

587
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: we do. And it happened sometimes, but it's upfield shoulder

588
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: and again to trust the route and that takes experience

589
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: and confidence. Yeah, and he's getting there. I love the

590
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: way he plays. You look at this group, they will

591
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: all thump you. There's not a guy. Both safeties, both corners,

592
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: and when you put him Modi at Nickel, you got

593
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: five and put him Blair at times, that's six guys

594
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: who were not out. There was a play against I

595
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: believe that Cleveland Browns that kind of showed me that

596
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: I thought Trey was feeling comfortable. Was there was a

597
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: screen and he's playing that Bill technique and he puts

598
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Speaker 1: his foot in the ground and then he slips the

599
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600
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Speaker 1: down and tackled the guy. I'm like, Okay, he's taking

601
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: the drills to the game right now. He's looking fundamentally sounds.

602
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Speaker 1: So there are little plays like that that that he

603
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: flashes to here like he's getting comfortable. So later on

604
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: in the season he's gonna be called upon. He's gonna

605
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: have to make some plays for this team. So when

606
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: he starts using those fundamentals and playing fast, it's encouraging

607
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: to see him out there. And much thanks to Trey

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Speaker 1: Flowers for visiting with us. Coming up next, we got

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Speaker 1: what do you make of the game that's going on

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622
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624
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625
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Speaker 1: I watched him because they went back to the Baltimore

626
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627
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632
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633
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,760
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Speaker 1: out of the pocket. And when he gets out of

635
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: the pocket, he's the best quarterback in the league. Outside

636
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: of the pocket. It's almost like he's a faster version

637
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: of Ben Roethlisberger being able to set up, throw the

638
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: ball and get the ball deep, do whatever he needs

639
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: to do. That's I think a mistake. So it's a

640
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: great football game because you have two teams that are

641
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: pretty even. Jacoby Percet's done a good job tonight. But

642
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: I tell you what, I like Watson because I look

643
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: at Watson and I can see one or two super

644
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: bowls in him, just like with Mahomes in Kansas City.

645
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: I can see two or three super bowls in him. Yeah,

646
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: I agree, I love Deshaun Watson. John a couple of

647
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: big moves by the Seahawks this week, activating Ed Dixon,

648
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: releasing Jamar Taylor. What do you think we're gonna see

649
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: in the secondary and what should we expect from Ed Dixon?

650
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: Do you think, well, nothing from Ed Dixon because the

651
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: report out of Carolina is that he's going to go

652
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: back on the injured reserve list, So it sounds like

653
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: the need is not right and it looks like he's

654
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: gonna miss the whole season, and that's not good because

655
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: now you're down to Jacobean. Jacob Hollister is the only

656
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: tight end. You know, you got Luke Wilson coming off

657
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: the hamstring injury, and then you've got George Fan filling in.

658
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: They you know, they have Tyrone Swoopes who they're probably activating.

659
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: But it looks to me like the Dixon thing did

660
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: not turn out too well. I have no idea what happened,

661
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: but whatever happened did not happen well. So that's a

662
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: big setback, I think right now for the offense, but

663
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: the overall in the defense, I think it was pretty predictable.

664
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 1: And it's like, I'm not gonna betray you or say anything,

665
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 1: but it's like we've watched this for the last couple

666
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: of weeks and it's like, I'll say we I'll put

667
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: it more on me, and we've seen, you know, more

668
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: problems into with a nickel cornerback than we've seen in

669
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: a while. And so because of that, it was time

670
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: to make a move, and so the move was made.

671
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: You know, they go ahead. Google Amadi is now going

672
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: to be the inside cornerback trying to handle things. I

673
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: think that's probably the good thing to try to do.

674
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: Get more speed, you get more coverage. And right now,

675
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: it just wasn't working with Jamar Taylor. Yeah, it really wasn't.

676
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: And you know, and not only you know he's getting beat,

677
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: but I mean there was a couple of times where

678
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: he was just he just couldn't close, he couldn't finish.

679
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: He was like three yards slow on some of the

680
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: catches that were coming in. I'm talking about three yards

681
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: in coverage. I mean three yards in coverage is massive

682
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: because I mean, this is a game right now where

683
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are so good in getting rid of the

684
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: ball and two point five seconds or less. It's like,

685
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: if you're behind and a half second, you're not good.

686
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: If you're behind in more than a second, that's not

687
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: that's horrible. Hey, John, I'm looking at the Philadelphia Eagles

688
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: schedule after the Seahawks. I see about four games that

689
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: I think they can win. But is this a must

690
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: win game for these guys to have a chance to

691
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: make the playoffs? No, No, I mean it isn't. It

692
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: isn't because you know, you're right about that, because their

693
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: schedule isn't as tough as say that Dallas Cowboys. I mean,

694
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have to play New England and all that,

695
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: and so I still think they can make it. But

696
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: it's an important game because it's a home game, and

697
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: if you lose a home game, particularly to a good

698
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: team like Seattle, that's going to hurt you. And where

699
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: it's going to hurt now again, you know Seattle, there's

700
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: a big difference right now as far as where they

701
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: are in the wild card and you know Philadelphia in Dallas,

702
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: whoever wins that division, the second place team is not

703
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: going to win a wild card. So this is an

704
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: important game for them, in a vital game for them,

705
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: because again it's like you gotta started. I mean, you

706
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 1: don't want to go five six into your final five

707
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: games of the season and think you're going to be

708
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: a playoff team. Particularly you know, if Dallas with Dak

709
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: Prescott being the number one offense, is right now, you know,

710
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: potentially in a position to maybe win. I don't know

711
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: how they're gonna do against New England, but no important

712
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: game for Philly. Yeah. I mean it's just you look

713
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 1: at what their stats and everything they do, everything, okay,

714
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: and it makes sense because they're five and five. Yeah,

715
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: I think they're actually pride a little better. I mean, look,

716
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: he lay loose to New England. They you know, we're

717
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: looking at the Dallas and they watched three very good teams,

718
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: most of them on the road. Hey, a weird story, John,

719
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: and I don't know if weird, but you know, very concerning. Initially,

720
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: when Tyler Lockett got hurt and fell and stayed behind

721
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: in San Francisco, how's his health? And and you expect

722
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: him to play significant amount of time this coming week?

723
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean everything. I yea, he may not played the

724
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 1: whole game, but everything seems to point to what Peak

725
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: Carroll is saying, and where we're lying on Peak Carroll

726
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: on is more. Because we can't see the practices, it

727
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: looks as though that he should be able to go. Now,

728
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: maybe it's not going to be you know, sixty sixty

729
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: five plays. Maybe they have to spot him a little bit,

730
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: but it looks to me like he's going to be

731
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: able to go. I think for the most part, they've

732
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: got to cover him on kickoff returns and punt returns.

733
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: He's more important to the offense. And I was looking

734
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: through the Pro Bowl voting, and again this is voting

735
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: by the fans. It's not the definitive things. He's He's like, uh,

736
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, seventh right now as far as a Pro

737
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: Bowl voting, and six of the top guys in the

738
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: top seven are all NFC guys. And you look at Loockett.

739
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: He's played at a Pro Bowl level. He's been absolutely fantastic.

740
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: But there's so many good receivers in the in the

741
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: NFC that you know he could be you know, first

742
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: second Alder He's in the mix. But again that's irrelevant.

743
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: I think the fact that you know he should be

744
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: able to play, I would think he would. I think

745
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: he can have a significant value in this game. John.

746
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: Right now, with this Seahawks beaten the forty nine ers,

747
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: and you know, I really I think, you know, some

748
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: calls go away. It's not as close as that game

749
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: ended up being and as exciting as it was. I

750
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: thought the forty nine ers, the recipe to beat them

751
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: is out there and Arizara should have beat them and

752
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: they have just executed down the stretch. Who's the best

753
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: team right now in the NSC. Best team in my opinion,

754
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: probably not going to be agreeable everybody is New Orleans.

755
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: I think they're the most complete team, top five, top

756
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: six defense. I think you can see that they have

757
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: Drew Brees at quarterback. You know, they've got a great offense.

758
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: I think that's the most complete team. Now, maybe they

759
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: may not finish with the best record, but remember San

760
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: Francisco has the best record right now. But they've got

761
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: three games coming up against eight win teams and that's

762
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: nobody's ever done that. And this late in the season,

763
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: face three consecutive eight win teams. They could lose two,

764
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: they could lose three games, and they can open up

765
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: the division right now for the Seahawks. So I'd say,

766
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: right now, I'd vote for New Orleans, even though technically

767
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: you know they're not number one because they don't have

768
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: the number one record. I'd vote for New Orleans. John.

769
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see Josh Gordon. You know,

770
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: it's funny during the game, you remember this John. I

771
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: had not seen him in earlier in the game, and

772
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: then I went back and look at the snap count,

773
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: but all of a sudden, what was it in the

774
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, he catches a slant like, oh, by the way,

775
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, Josh Gordon's on the team, number ten

776
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: out there, But I wonder how much we're gonna see

777
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: him this week. And you know, and also we forgot

778
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: about like Malik Turner, a pretty good player. And this

779
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: is all you know based on let's say, Tyler Locke,

780
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: it's not not able to go. But yeah, as far

781
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: as who do you think is going to be sort

782
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: of a surprise receiver that might step up this week?

783
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: I think you hit on it. I think it gonna

784
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: be Josh Gordon because what you're looking at now, particularly

785
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: you know with the injury that's going to keep Ed

786
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: Dixon back on the injured reserve list. You know, now

787
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: that you're down to Jacob Hollister and an injured Luke

788
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: Wilson a tight end, they're gonna use more three tight

789
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: end I mean three receiver sets and ever before and

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00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: I would have to think the way that Josh Gordon's

791
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: going to go. And what's interesting is that, you know,

792
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: you look in New England has averaged as their offense

793
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: has been, they'd let Josh Gordon go. He had twenty

794
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: catches in six games. Certainly he wasn't great, but he's good.

795
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: And you saw the two third down catches he had

796
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: in this game against San Francisco. I think he can

797
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: be a big factor in this game, particularly knowing that

798
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: they may not be able to go as many tight

799
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: ends as they would like to go. And if that's

800
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: going to be the case, you know that's gonna He's

801
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: good and I like him. I talked him after the game.

802
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: I like the sound of what he says. I like

803
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: the play of what he does. I think he can

804
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: be a big factor. He could be the the X

805
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: factor in this game. Professor, thanks for your time and

806
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of your evening. We'll see you in Philadelphia.

807
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: Sounds good. There he goes the Professor, John Clayton. Coming

808
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: up next. We'll talk about some of these roster moves

809
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: that have happened, and you know what's going to happen

810
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: if maybe Luke Wilson not able to go. Although Pete

811
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: thinks he has he's Wolverine, which means he has extreme

812
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: healing powers. I hope he is. Yeah, I hope he's

813
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: right too. We'll talk about the what we're gonna see

814
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: in the secondary, some of the personnel moves Quandre digs, etc.

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00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: We will talk about that next here on Hawks Live.

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Speaker 1: to be. Well, guys, uh, you know, we were talking

825
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Speaker 1: to Clayton about some of the moves, one of which

826
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Speaker 1: is Jamar Taylor getting released. Of course we talked a

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Speaker 1: little bit of about that and again Jamar, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a he's a great guy. Just I loved him.

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Speaker 1: I thought he's a good, good part of the group,

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00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: but he just wasn't quite fitting in and he just

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Speaker 1: was a little bit behind, just a little bit off,

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Speaker 1: and you know in that nickel spot, you know, and

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00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: I think maybe a lot of people think, well that's

834
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: pretty harsh to go for your a starting nickel to

835
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: cut usually get benched and then sort of demoted, but

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00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, they they had a move and it just

837
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: I think shows a lot of confidence of what they

838
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: think about whoever's going to replace him, which it looks

839
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: like it's probably gonna be Ugo Amati. Do you agree, Paul?

840
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: Is that what you've seen from him being an old

841
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: defensive back coach yourself? About Ugo Amadi? Yeah, yeah, I

842
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: think he's a guy. I mean, he just listening to

843
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: Pete and you know he feels it's he's earned the

844
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: right now. And you know, as a rookie, you're you're

845
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: kind of just feeling it out. As coaches, am I

846
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: can he be dependable and he's always done as he's

847
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: made plays. Talk about that really quick because we talk

848
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: about this all the time. Why is this guy get

849
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: brought up? Why is that? And I've always said and

850
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: you guys both can confirm this. When you're a coach,

851
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: trust is a huge deal, right, I mean, and remember

852
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: George Dyer used to have he called the sifco rating

853
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: on players. Can I bleep and count on him? Can't

854
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: pronounce all of them? But you know that that was

855
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: a big thing with him, Like is he at practice.

856
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: Is he doing the right things at practice? Is he

857
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: making mistakes? Is he paying attention in meetings? I mean

858
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of things that you look at that

859
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: give you because I feel like during the game, you

860
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: kind of as a coach, you run back, you run

861
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,479
Speaker 1: home to mama, right, you go to what it makes

862
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: you most comfortable. And if you have a player that

863
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: you know, you know you can count on, then you know,

864
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: even if he's not more talented than another guy, if

865
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: you want that trust right as a coach, I'm not

866
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: running back to you as long as he has my

867
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: fried chicken and my potato salada run home anytime. But look,

868
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: it's an eleven man game on one side of the ball, right,

869
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: So I just need a guy just to do his job.

870
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: At times, I got ten other guys that made me playmakers.

871
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: And so I look at Taylor and why is he

872
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: no longer on his team? Not? You know, I'm always day.

873
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: We talked about this all the time, hesitant to say,

874
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: oh he did it wrong, But I'm watching them inside technique.

875
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: And when seventy percent of Garoppolo's passes are inside the

876
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: numbers and everything is saying they're coming inside theyre coming inside,

877
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't take it away. And then he held

878
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: a guy or interfered with him on an interception, he

879
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: messed up on another one. He just didn't make plays.

880
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: There's a point where I go, I've got to get

881
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 1: somebody in there who just does the assignment. And that's

882
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: why that's so important. And look, I made a living

883
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: on that at a second round pick, a second round pick,

884
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick, a fourth round pick. They didn't

885
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: make the team because I knew where to go, and

886
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: so that's important. You got to know your limitations as

887
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: much as your strengths. And Taylor just I thought he

888
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: made a lot of busts in that game, even though

889
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: he might be physically as good as a MODI. But

890
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: now you've got a veteran guy who probably isn't physically

891
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: as good as a Maddy, and now he's not making

892
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: he's making. Man, I'll go with the rookie who's making plays.

893
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: I can live with some mistakes if you make plays,

894
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: but Taylor wasn't making any plays on top of making mistakes.

895
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: So you love as a receiver beating a guy inside.

896
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: I mean it's the easiest thing. It drives me nuts.

897
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: And everybody. You know, those slants across the middle. I

898
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: mean they're hard to defend, but I mean if you

899
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: take away the inside part, it's such an easy throw

900
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: for a quarterback. You take it away and make him

901
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: go outside the numbers. Now, all of a sudden, they

902
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: gotta put air on the ball, touch, there's time for

903
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: the safeties to get there. It just seems like kind

904
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: of a no brainer. And when you went inside your money, right,

905
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: Garoppolo was three for eighteen trying to go downfield and

906
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: outside the numbers. Yeah, that's why you make him go

907
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: outside the numbers. Yeah, as a receiver, you give me

908
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: the inside. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna have a great

909
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: day against him. Man. I like how they handle Google.

910
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: At first, I'm thinking, what are they doing get this

911
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: guy in the game. He needs to get more reps.

912
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: And I go back and I watch the first game

913
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: of the year against the Bengals, and Ugo is getting

914
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: a lot of reps and he's doing okay, but he's

915
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: getting fooled with some formations. He's getting his hips turned around.

916
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: You can tell the kick and play he's breaking on

917
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: the ball. He's fast, he's strong, but he's not quite

918
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: doing exactly what he's supposed to do. So what do

919
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: you do. You put a veteran in front of him.

920
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: You're like, hey, learn from this guy. He's gonna line

921
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: up the right way. Most likely he'll do the right thing.

922
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: The thing where Taylor got hurt was now, when it's

923
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: time to make the play, he didn't make the play. Now,

924
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: when the ball hit your hands, you gotta come down

925
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: with that football. And you get halfway through the season,

926
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: you see Ugo a Mahdi balling on special teams. He's

927
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: the first guy down there. He's making tackles him. He's

928
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: slowly coming along. He's getting reps with the first and

929
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: second team during practice. So they kind of they put

930
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: the training wheels on. They're like, look, we're not gonna

931
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: force this guy into the heal the battle right now.

932
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna allow this veteran a chance. And we know

933
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: that if he's not capable of doing it now, we're

934
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: gonna give this this rookie a chance to make some play. Yeah,

935
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: the Mahdi was he won the Lombardi Award, and I

936
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: think it's for it's for a player, you know, on

937
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: the field play, But I mean there's guys like Aaron

938
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: Donald and the Dominican Sue that have won this award.

939
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: And it's also about being a squared away individual, being

940
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: a leader, and you know, academic stuff and everything, and

941
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: he won that. So he's a very smart guy. He's

942
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: very verbal. I just think he's a rookie, you know.

943
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's always surprising to me when rookies

944
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: actually play and contribute, like DK metcalf is just it's

945
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: just amazing to me watching him. And so, you know,

946
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: he's just typical rookie. But I feel pretty confident with

947
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: Quandre Digs out there. He seems to be the sort

948
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: of key to communication. Bradon McDougal played better. I thought,

949
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: you know, the corners played better. I thought the linebackers

950
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: played better. I mean, they were getting deep drops that

951
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: were causing Garoppolo to put air under the ball. And

952
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why as a linebacker you

953
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: want to get deep drops, you know, ten to fifteen yards,

954
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: is because you know, we saw him completing, like Jameis Winston,

955
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: completing these ropes that he's thrown down the field because

956
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: they didn't have to throw over a linebacker. But when

957
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: you have to throw over the linebacker. It puts a

958
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: little bit of an arc on the ball and it

959
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: gives the safeties time to get there. And I thought

960
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: Quandre Diggs just he brought a lot of that to

961
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: that defense. And I feel pretty comfortable with Madi out

962
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: there as long as you have Diggs and McDougall, who

963
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: were also back there kind of taking care of them

964
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, I thought Diggs made some big hits.

965
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: So to McDougald, you know, I you know, I expand

966
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: on the drops. I thought they read that. I thought

967
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: they read Jimmy g or pretty boys drops really well.

968
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: So when he did a three step drop, we squeezed

969
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: the route, so we we we contested the short route.

970
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: When he dropped back to five or it was holding

971
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: the ball, we adjusted and got more depth. And he

972
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: really struggled the fine wide receivers the times. He did

973
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: not to beat up on Taylor too much here, because

974
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you just lose confidence, and I think

975
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: that's what happened to him, you know, when they all

976
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we were giving these free releases inside

977
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: and that and underneath. That's when Jimmy hurt us a

978
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: few times. But it was rare and most of the

979
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: time he had to pull the football down and allowed

980
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: us to get some sacks, or he had to throw

981
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: something that he really didn't want to do, and that

982
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: was to extend down field and so passes over ten yards.

983
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: Last week when we played him, he was three for eighteen.

984
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: That's his weakness. And you know, just you know, since

985
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: we're talking about forty nine ers here right now, all

986
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, he plays Arizona and they go, oh,

987
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy's playing great. Now. He had four touchdown passes. He

988
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: had a two yard pass for a touchdown, he had

989
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: a four yard pass for a touchdown, he had a

990
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: five yard pass for a touchdown, and he had a

991
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: twenty five yard one that they kind of blew coverage. No,

992
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: he's not. They go play a really good defense, Arizona

993
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: is not. Jimmy's Garoppolo is going to struggle. I think

994
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a losing record the rest of the way. Well,

995
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: they've got a tough schedule, but great defense. That's the

996
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: one thing that that's the gates part of what I say.

997
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna really shut their offense down.

998
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: What do you think, Michael do you think that's that's

999
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: a pretty bold move there. I'm gonna write that down.

1000
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: What's the date? Yes, it is your old jersey number.

1001
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: You know. It's funny you get to this time of

1002
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: the year and all of a sudden, all these teams

1003
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: that look like they're unbeatable. You see, like, okay, they

1004
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: can be beat Nobody's that good in the NFL because

1005
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: the talent level is very even evenly spread out, and

1006
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: to me, more than anything, it's about guys playing together.

1007
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: So again, like we talked about at the top of

1008
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: the show, I just I'm really excited about the defense

1009
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: and what we saw. One of the other moves that

1010
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: kind of went along with that is Ed Dixon Clayton

1011
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: reporting that he's possibly going on ir Uh. We're not

1012
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: sure about that because it has not been made official,

1013
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: but um, let's talk about what they're gonna do it

1014
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: tight end because hopefully Luke Wilson is going to be

1015
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: able to uh, you know, get through this hamstring injury.

1016
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: He's also got ribs. He's a tough guy, and uh,

1017
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, Pete always talks about how he's an incredible healer.

1018
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: And then you've got Jacob Hollister who who had a

1019
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 1: career day against against San Francisco, and then George Fan.

1020
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: You know, so you got those three guys and I

1021
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: don't even want to I do I'm gonna mention, do

1022
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: we miss will Disley? I mean, can you imagine if

1023
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: you had Will Dislie still in this? So I don't,

1024
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't look behind me, Dave, I look forward, Okay,

1025
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: I mean, but it was nice and I hope next year,

1026
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: but it is an incredible shame that they don't have

1027
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: Will Disley. But they're making do right now. I like

1028
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: Hollister and I think, you know, with Luke here, here's

1029
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: what I think we're gonna get this guy. I think

1030
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be very similar to what we did against

1031
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. And you know, they're they're they're pretty stout

1032
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: against the run. They got a very good front four.

1033
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: I think we throw on him early. We we loosen

1034
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: that there. I mean, not to make it that simple,

1035
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like you hear on all the ESPN

1036
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: stuff out there, but it's a good comparison because they

1037
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: got the number four run defense film and they're struggling

1038
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: in the secondary, and I think we're hot throwing the

1039
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: football right now. I think we're gonna be very balanced,

1040
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: but I think it starts off us throwing the football

1041
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: and then we wear it down a little bit in

1042
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter run. I think that secondary is better

1043
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: than what people are giving them credit for. I think

1044
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: that they are. You watch them on film. They're aggressive,

1045
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna play man, they're gonna get in your face,

1046
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: and they're flying around right now. They did take it

1047
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: L and L to New England pages but granted New

1048
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: England doesn't have the receivers that the Seahawks do have.

1049
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: But you watch them and they're they're on top of Edlman,

1050
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: they're on top of the New They're playing really fast.

1051
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: So I think they're playing confident. And that's what scares

1052
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: me a little bit about this team is that they're

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Speaker 1: playing confident and they're desperate. They know they have to

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Speaker 1: win this ball game. They're gonna be at home, and

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Speaker 1: I think if they look across the formation and they

1056
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 1: don't see Locket consistently, they see a DK Medcalf, they'll

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00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: take a chance on the Josh Gordon. I think if

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00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: they if they make plays early, they'll start to believe

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00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: and make this game a little interesting. Remember New Angels

1060
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: a short passing game, crossing routes, all that you gotta

1061
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: play that tight. We're not. We're vertical. Element ran across

1062
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Speaker 1: the field and ran the route that the Hawks likes,

1063
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: run that deep cross three or four times and cop

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Speaker 1: out two of them. So I feel you, but I

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00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: just think that they deserve a little more. All right.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying no, I say, yeah, this should be good.

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Speaker 1: It soundna be a fine little match. That's funny. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know you guys are talking about. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go with Bumpus, just a feeling I have on this one. Okay, Paul,

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Speaker 1: up next, we're gonna talk about three of the biggest

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Speaker 1: plays from last week's game or two weeks ago. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna go inside the film room. That's next. Hawks slid

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Speaker 1: inside the film room with coach Paul Moyer, coach Michael Bumpus,

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Speaker 1: and then me, and we're gonna take take you through

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Speaker 1: a three of these great plays from the other night.

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00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: And I was surprised that our producer Nasa Chobe didn't

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00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: put all defensive players plays in there, because he's a

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00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: defensive player himself. He actually put two offensive plays in here,

1084
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: but pretty awesome plays that, I mean, on the offensive

1085
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: side of the ball. I feel like they're they're kind

1086
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: of set. I mean, I don't want to get cocky

1087
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Speaker 1: or anything, but it doesn't matter whether I'm cocky or not.

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00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: But I just think Russ is just so good now.

1089
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: I think you can rely on him. What is he

1090
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: twenty four and two as far as touchdowns to interceptions

1091
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: and but I thought the real difference was the defense,

1092
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: and specifically, I guess if I had to point out

1093
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: one area, I would go d line. And this first

1094
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: play is Jared Reid gets a strip sack of Jimmy Garoppolo,

1095
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: and Jadeveon Clowney, who has just made plays all over

1096
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: the place, picks it up and runs for pett second

1097
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: down in six at the Seattle thirty seven. Coleman stays

1098
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: in the backfield. Garoppolo takes a shotgun snap. He's missed.

1099
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: Now he's hit. Now he goes down. Clowney got there first,

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00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: got a hand on him, forced him up in the pocket,

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00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: and then pouta Ford and Jaren Reid got there. They'll

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00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: probably split that sack, doesn't matter. It is still another

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00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: sack going for the Seahawks defense. That would be the

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00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: Seattle third sack on the game and a loss of

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00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: five yards. And then Clowney picks it up and he

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00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: scores a touchdown. We got the wrong clip there anyway, Um,

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00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: this was uh, this was I thought on this particular

1108
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: play that Poonaford made it happen. Poonaford and jarn Reid

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00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: ran a stunt and so it was just a I

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Speaker 1: guess it would be what a te I mean the

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00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: outside guy. I think he went first. It was it was, um, well,

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00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: it was Jarren Reid was the right tackle when he

1113
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: went first, came into the gap, he came inside, and

1114
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: then and then Poonaford goes around to the outside. But

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00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: Poona made such a fast move and then same with

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00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: Jarren Reid. He had a really good he had a

1117
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: little shake. Both the center and the guard did what

1118
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: you can't do as an offensive lineman, turn your shoulders

1119
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: that you know you want to pass that off, keep

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00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: your shoulders square. And I thought Poonaford especially, he was

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00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: so explosive going to his right the center's left that

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00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: he was forced to turn his shoulders and that just

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00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: opened the gate for Jaren Reid. Jaren Reid gets squeezes

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00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: through there and gets his big old paw on the

1125
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 1: football and it comes out and Clowney, always the Johnny

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00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: on the spot, picks it up and runs it in. Yeah.

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00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: The thing that about that one to me, and that's

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Speaker 1: this is game planning, right. So the center, the center

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00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 1: gets depths. That's a harder stunt because he would have

1130
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: been able to pass that off. And Jaren Reid gets

1131
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 1: he comes into the A gap and because the center

1132
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: doesn't get depth, he gets past the center's shoulders. And

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00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: so now the stunts, the stunt works. I mean one

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00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: either read or Ford's gonna come free. There's no way

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00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: at that point that they can stop it. But here's

1136
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 1: why that play works as well. And maybe two weeks

1137
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: ago it didn't we stop their primary short route they ran.

1138
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: They had a stacked position, their outside receiver came in

1139
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: and ran a turn route. K J. Wright jumped it.

1140
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: He's in between that guy that turn route and Garoppolo,

1141
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: so he has nowhere to throw it. This perfect stunt,

1142
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: but if that ball gets thrown, there's no sack, there's nothing,

1143
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: and everybody goes out. We don't get any pressure on

1144
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: the quarterback, but we do. And on top of that,

1145
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: digs also takes away the deep end route. Now we've

1146
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: had some people in that position have not taken that

1147
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: dig route away, and that thing all sudden pops up.

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00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: So why does this play work. It's a great fundamental stunt.

1149
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: It's a great job of taking away their primary and

1150
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: secondary route. And now groppload he has to try and avoid,

1151
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,959
Speaker 1: and you know you got Clowney does what he does best,

1152
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: and that's hustle and gets a strip sack. Yeah. What

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00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: I like about this is that on that defensive line,

1154
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: front is always a four on five, So that means

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00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: three guys are most likely gonna be manned up and

1156
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: the other guys gonna be double team and everyone does

1157
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: their job. The puna and read stunt works, and then

1158
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: Clowney doesn't just bull rush like he's been doing all year.

1159
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: He kind of sets him of nice little swim o.

1160
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: So the one on one matchups win. The guy who's

1161
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: taking all the double team does his job. So everyone

1162
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: does their job. You occupy too, right there. You win

1163
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: your one on one battles right there, and you put

1164
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: pressure on I mean that was his continuity right there.

1165
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: Everyone doing exactly what they're supposed to do. Next play

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00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson finds Jacob Hollister, who had a career night

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00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: I think seven or eight catches touchdown and this was

1168
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: a touchdown where he kind of got lost in the shuffle.

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00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: Makes a beautiful catch. So here we go first and

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00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: goal for Russ and company. Play fake. He's gonna half

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00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: roll right side, still looking, throws back inside, falls tipped

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00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: up as a cut it is, it's caught it back

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00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: at the end. Okay, Hollister touchdown Seahawks. Jacob Hollister reaches

1174
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: up with one hand as he's falling backwards and Russe

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00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: lays a little time over the top for Hollister to catch,

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00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: and the Seahawks have taken the league thirteen to ten.

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00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: Hollister lineup is an inline, classic tight end position, and

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00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: he blocked and so a lot of times that's it's

1179
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: tough those guys get lost in the defense. But actually

1180
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: San Francisco they picked it up. I mean, linebacker was

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00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: all for him and so Rush just kind of throws

1182
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: that little as Rabel said, tear drop, and it was

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00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: a one handed catch by Hollister. That guy has just

1184
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: been What a great surprise, Jacob Hollister has been. Yeah,

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00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: Hollister has been awesome. And what I see on this

1186
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: play is they show like that stretched looking I watched

1187
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: something on peyton Man the other day and how much

1188
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: he worked on his mesh in the backfield showing the ball,

1189
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: hiding the football. So I don't want to discount Russell

1190
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: Wilson and his ball holding skills there. But it's all

1191
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: about the flow of this play. Everything in this play

1192
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: says our reflection, and everything is flowing right. So now

1193
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: all Hollister has to do is this find some space

1194
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: where the linebacker jacks up is He's got to play

1195
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: him from behind. Me can't play that guy from front.

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00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: It's like kind of deny the post by standing in

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00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: front of him. You kind of got to split him

1198
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: in half and get behind him a bit. And after that,

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Speaker 1: it's all just a trust throw. Russell Wilson see space.

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00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: He sees that Hollister has the has the defender B

1201
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: with his back towards towards him and just tosses it

1202
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: up and the rest is all forty eight. Okay, so

1203
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: first of all, San Francisco holds four of our wide

1204
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,959
Speaker 1: receivers four, not one of him. It is called that's fine.

1205
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm watching to see guys from the end zone. For

1206
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: the life of me, I can't understand why. I don't

1207
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: even know what Russell sees here. He's looking away from

1208
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: Hollister and then he throws this little flip with his

1209
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: wrist and the perfect spot. You got. It is the

1210
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: difficulty of this throw on what he sees is. I

1211
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: can't even describe it. And this is you know, for

1212
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: everybody out there listening, everybody here, enjoy what we have.

1213
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,919
Speaker 1: This guy is the best in the business. He does

1214
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: things nobody in the NFL has done in history. He's

1215
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: that good. You know what I was this week going

1216
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: Russell needs a hype man. You know how Lamar Jackson

1217
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: had mark Ingram given the hype. Paul might be that guy.

1218
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: You might be the hype man for Russell for MBA

1219
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: crazy the stuff he's done. Yeah, it really is the

1220
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: last one. Malik Turner guy we don't talk about. We

1221
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: had him on this show at one point and really

1222
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: a nice kid, one of the receivers you kind of

1223
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: forget about. But this is a huge catch and he

1224
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: had some great moves here, kind of video game moves here.

1225
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: Third and sixteen in overtime and Russell finds a Malik

1226
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: Turner on a big time play, empty backfield, four man rush.

1227
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: Russ try to trying to run around the right side,

1228
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: find some room. Now he throws got Turner makes the catch,

1229
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,439
Speaker 1: spreads down of a tackle, down of the thirty five

1230
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: yard line, the thirty three yard line. How did Malik

1231
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: Turner do that? Made the catch, spun out of a tackle,

1232
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: picked up positive yards, a first down, and then some

1233
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: a twenty plus yard game. As they spot the ball,

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01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: we'll actually see how far it was. Twenty nine yards

1235
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: and a first down at the San Francisco thirty two. Well,

1236
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: I have twenty three down here. Maybe rage got a

1237
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: little bit excited there, but wow, that was a It

1238
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: was a great play. What did you say? It has

1239
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: never been a strong a on air. Math is very difficult, Yes,

1240
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: I'll say that, But who would you say it was

1241
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: like a video game move like hit the b buttons.

1242
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: That was our producer, massive shoay hit that hit that

1243
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: spin move on him. This is an example of guys

1244
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: knowing where everyone is. Because right here Hollister's in the

1245
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: flat and as Russell Wilson is rolling his way. Some

1246
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: guy's reaction to be able to snap it up field

1247
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: and take that space. But I feel like he knows that. Okay, scrambleder,

1248
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: We've we've done this before. That intermediate route ran by

1249
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: Malik Turner, he'll probably occupy that space and then that

1250
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: Z receiver to the sideline. Instead of coming back, he

1251
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: just goes deep. So it just shows that everyone knows

1252
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: where they're supposed to be. And then Russell makes a

1253
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: great cash and Malik shows his age and says, I'm

1254
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: a young man. I'm gonna get this yack another great throw.

1255
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: I wish Russia had to look down field because David

1256
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: Moore was ten yards pass Richard Sherman for an easy touchdown.

1257
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,439
Speaker 1: I was gonna tell you to hype him up again.

1258
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: And now you're saying he missed a wide opening. No,

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Speaker 1: he made I should he made a great throw. But

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Speaker 1: if he had to look down for he can't do

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01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,959
Speaker 1: everything all right. I mean he's walking on grass not water.

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Speaker 1: That is gonna be tough for a quarterback when you

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01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: get in film and go, oh my god, that guy

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01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: was wide open. You didn't see because it's hard to

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01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: see everything and you're being chased and everything. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: Russ is doing a great job. We'll coming up next.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have Chaqine Griffin, who is gonna play Fortnite.

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Speaker 1: Anybody ever played Fortnite? You guys know what this is about.

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Speaker 1: I know what it is. Pays your son plays it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we're our own Taylor Jacobs. He's gonna sit down

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Speaker 1: with Seahawks linebacker Shaqine Griffin. They're gonna have a little

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Speaker 1: chat and play some Fortnite. That's next right here on

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Speaker 1: Hawks Live. Hawksks Live every Thursday from seven to nine

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Speaker 1: Live it Snow Call me Casino on seven ten ESPN Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now in Hawks Live Gaming, Chaqueine Griffin gonna

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Speaker 1: play a little Fortnite. Pressure is on though, because people

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Speaker 1: hyping up his game. Oh man, we gotta see what

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01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: he's really like on the sticks. Gonna play a little

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01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: Fortnite and talk some football and talk some life on

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01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: and off the field. So we'll just jump right into it.

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Speaker 1: Start queueing up. You're getting a lot more reps on

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01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: the defensive side. How do you stay ready for the

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01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: moments when your name gets called and you have to

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01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: step up in type of situation. Um, I think for me,

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01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: it's not let the moment be too big. It's just

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01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: stand posts, just standing under control with everything and then

1287
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna get called. Just do what you've been doing.

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01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: I just know playing ball, and I think that's something

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01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: that I learned throughout me being here so far, just

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01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: becoming from a rookie doughing our second year. It just

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01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: you know what, don't overthink things. You know, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, it's all playing ball. You know,

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01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: you made tackles, you rush people. You know, you go

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01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: on the battles every day here. There's nothing different, So

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01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: it's just all about being poisoned every single week. I

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Speaker 1: just make sure I just focus on certain things that

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm weak, ast certain things on strong ap

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01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: for I can make sure I can get better for

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Speaker 1: the next game. And I think just getting out their

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01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: last game, it was just for me to get my

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01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: feetware and actually you know, get a feel for everything

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01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: and actually kind of you know, feel myself a little bit.

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01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: You know. Once I got that feeling, I just like

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01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: the energy was so contagious out there. It was like

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01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: it felt different. You know. That's something that we you know,

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01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: we're hyping on just the keep. I mean, once you

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01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: feel an energy like that, you don't want to lose it.

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01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: Small whole thing. If there's anything I can do to

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01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: be able to keep a contagious energy like we have

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01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: uh resusant frame and we're gonna have a great second half.

1311
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: And your teammates talking about you in the effort you're

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Speaker 1: putting into, specifically Bobby Wagner giving you a shout out

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01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: what you've been doing on the field and what you've

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01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: been doing on the practice field. So what's it we're given?

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Speaker 1: What have you been learning from guys like Bobby and

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01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: Cajun some of the sort of quote unquote upper classmen.

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Speaker 1: If you will hear that in Seattle, I mean with

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Speaker 1: with It's like Bobby and kJ and Mike, they know,

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01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: they always keep me, you know, head over heels when

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01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: it comes to you know, being prepared and having a routine.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's something that you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys have to learn throughout the years. And now

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Speaker 1: I remember even a Bobby says say it took them

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01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: a while to learn how to their creator a routine

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01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: thought as years. But you know, that's why I'm blessed

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Speaker 1: to have vents like that. They teach me the way,

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01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, instead of me having to find find out

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Speaker 1: the hardway like them. You know, they just teach me

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01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: like I did this and I did that, and me

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Speaker 1: knowing the state of my routine, I know exactly what's

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01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: going to happen every single time. So I made sure

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Speaker 1: I'm taking all the advice from them, and it just

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01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: make sure I just kept doing everything in the same

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Speaker 1: thing I practice. If I'm working this move, I'm working

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Speaker 1: out move, I'm gonna keep doing the same routine. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna keep the same intensity every single time because once

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Speaker 1: i know I'm off of it, that means I'm doing

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Speaker 1: something wrong. So that was like the key thing for

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Speaker 1: me is just you know, keep instead of routine and

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01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: just keep working my craft every week. I love it. Now.

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01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: You also play with your brother, which is really unique,

1342
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: and we had him on here about a month ago too.

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01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: We played some Fortnite who did pretty well as well.

1344
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,959
Speaker 1: So we're hoping to do better than your brother because

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01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: I know you probably have some brother sibling rivalry going on.

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01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: So for sure, all the time you guys did your

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01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: media tour this past year and asked your brother this question,

1348
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: and I'm sure everyone asked you your favorite part about

1349
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: playing with your brother. So I want to know what's

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01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: the toughest part about playing with your brother. The toughest

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01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: part about playing with my brother on the field, yeah,

1352
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: or off the field, because he know he give you

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01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: a hard time, you know, the locker rooms or something

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01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: like that. Um, I won't say give her hard time,

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01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: but it could be times where you know, obviously you

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01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: can always bump heads or anybody, and then it's always

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01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: a different bump heads when you know you're going to

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01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: bump your head with your brother and stuff. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think one thing that we do a really good

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01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: job is we take great criticism from each other. And

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Speaker 1: you know, shout out to my dad for that because

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01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: he was always I'm gonna be your biggest critic, ain't

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01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: your biggest fan, and brother kind of took that consideration

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01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: and ran with it because it's like my brother. Know,

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01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: it's like I'm gonna be the biggest fan no matter what,

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01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna know more about you than you know about yourself,

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01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 1: and it's vice versa. But it's someone that comes of criticism.

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Speaker 1: You know, he does well with taking it and also

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Speaker 1: additioning it out to I love that. Yeah, he does

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Speaker 1: an amazing job with it. And your brother talks about

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01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: your dad and then flinch, your dad had as both

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Speaker 1: sort of a coach and a father figure as both,

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Speaker 1: so right, I love that that sort of dual experience

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Speaker 1: you got from him as he pushed you on the

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Speaker 1: football field and you know off the field too. It's

1376
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: always a constant battle. It's always costing a push, and

1377
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: it's always you know, a thing to help each other grow. Yep,

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01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: you know it's it's never you know, bad fits and stuff.

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01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: But it can't get annoying, specially that I had times

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01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: when I was tired and my brother you gotta do

1381
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:05,919
Speaker 1: this and do that, and I just got out my face.

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01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: But then I know it's for it, for the betterment

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01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: for me, him and everybody around us. So you know,

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01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: you learn how to you learn how to take that

1385
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: and then keep it going. Love that so tell me

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01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 1: about playing on this defense second year. What is the

1387
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: difference between this unit that you're playing with this year

1388
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: in verse last year. What are some of the key

1389
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,719
Speaker 1: differences you would say right now? I think the karma

1390
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: is it's a little different. I think the things that

1391
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 1: we're doing outside of the building what creates a better

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01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: chemistry between us. Um Just for example, Uh, you know,

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01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: my brother holds a dB meeting, you know, every week

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01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: at home, all the dbs come through. You know, we

1395
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: have food and stuff and everybody just come in and

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01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: just hang out. Oh man, oh damn see him the

1397
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 1: whole team. Oh wow, that's what I mean. I was

1398
01:08:53,640 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: talking about us. We're talking. But yeah, I mean, you know,

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01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: lbs were playing Trips. We hang out, the dB playing

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01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: Trips hang out. They come to the house, they watch

1401
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 1: from every Tuesday, you know, and just to eat and

1402
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: just watch film. So I just think there's certain things

1403
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: that we do now that we didn't do last year

1404
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: that that kind of creates a better bond. And you know,

1405
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: when them guys out there and they talking to each

1406
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: other eating, when somebody going through something, instead of saying,

1407
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: hey man, you're tripping like you need to tighten up

1408
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: it's just like they encourage them to do better and

1409
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: encourage and say, like, you know what, I got your

1410
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: back no matter what, Like if you feel like you're

1411
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna do this, I got you over top.

1412
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: And it just serves like that when you know that

1413
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: you got somebody who's willing to even though you're gonna

1414
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: take a chance right now to try to get the ball.

1415
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: I got your back, no word about nothing. And that's

1416
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that you you need on the defense.

1417
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: And when the guy's like that, playing around each other

1418
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: with with that, it's an amazing thing to see because

1419
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: it's like it's no worries even though I mess up,

1420
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 1: I know I got a guy behind it that's gonna

1421
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: fix everything for me. So it's just you just feel

1422
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: better out there. You feel more comfortable, You feel like

1423
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: you can trust everybody around free right, you can play

1424
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. That's awesome. All right. Now we're gett into

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01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: some more the fun stuff. We talked about it on

1426
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,959
Speaker 1: the field, but off the field, we know you're playing Fortnite?

1427
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: Are there any other shows or movies? What do you

1428
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: like to do when you're at home just relaxing, not

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01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: playing Fortnite for seven hours with the boys. Oh. Man,

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01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 1: I just like to like to, dude, see seen the

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01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: reasons and stuff, to go to different areas. I'd like

1432
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: to go bowling, I'd like to go go card and

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01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: um you're all over. Yeah, I just like to I'm

1434
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: like being bored. Man. I'd like to just stay active. Man.

1435
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 1: You know, eventually it's gonna be a time where I'm

1436
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 1: not gonna want to move at all. So I'm gonna

1437
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: get it while I'm young. I mean, I got a

1438
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 1: lot of energy and stuff. So I just like to,

1439
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, get out, just move around. I love movies.

1440
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: I go to movies every week. I'm actually going today.

1441
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 1: What are you gonna gonna see? I have no idea.

1442
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 1: I mean we just pulled up and just what movie

1443
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: we haven't seen yet? Like, there's a lot of movies

1444
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: that we've seen. What was the best movie you've seen recently?

1445
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: Best movie I've seen recently? Um no, in Games Too

1446
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: Far Away? Let's say it got to be the last

1447
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: john Wick Horse. I don't know, man, I had watched

1448
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: what was the movie? Um Aladdin? Will or Los the

1449
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: lads movie he just came up with with with the

1450
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: double ganger. He had John and I'm Jim and I

1451
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: man West was so dope. And the only reason I

1452
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: say that because it takes a lot for you to

1453
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 1: build play yourself twice in a movie, right, and interact

1454
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: with themselves in a rap with yourself twice, right, and

1455
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: then sounding younger and sound older like that's all him,

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01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: that's all him right now? Well, you know, I grew

1457
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: up in the nineties, Fresh Prince. Just you came home

1458
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: from school and that's what you were throwing on the television.

1459
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: You just yet to see what Will Smith was doing.

1460
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: So um. But John Wick we were talking earlier this

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01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 1: season and we were getting him into the lane. Now.

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01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: He's a big John Wick fan, so we were trying

1463
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: to campaign for him to get into the next John

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01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: Wick movie. So, first off, would you want to be

1465
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: in a John Wick movie? Definitely? And how would you

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Speaker 1: but I think we'll get on the sticks at some

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Speaker 1: point in the future. That was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: I think they're okay. Defensively, they have to show that

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Speaker 1: it's one game. We gotta see. The thing for Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: But they got some players on defense, and you were

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Speaker 1: I think we do. I mean, we're going to I

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Speaker 1: I was shocked how well we played defensively and what

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Speaker 1: can never underestimate the Seahawks. They're so good. But this

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Speaker 1: want to accomplish winning the division and it's forth taken.

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Speaker 1: I think San Francisco not necessarily going to struggle, but

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Speaker 1: They're they're good there, but their schedule is tough. I

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Speaker 1: think our schedule lays out nicely because Caroline is not

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia's not playing as well. You Arizona who is, But

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Speaker 1: That means we got to run the table. Minnesota is

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Speaker 1: if it played out that way. Can you imagine their

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Speaker 1: would be That would be a big time. And here's

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Speaker 1: And we're already know we at times play to our competition.

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Speaker 1: So it's great test. It definitely get him playoff ready

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Speaker 1: him to win. Yes, I expect him to win. I

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Speaker 1: expect it to be the typical Seahawk game. I think

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a blowout. It's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: a four team score win. I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: make that one play, to say wow, the defensive line

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Speaker 1: And they've always been solid. They played solid football all year.

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Speaker 1: But now just that one play, that kind of less

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Speaker 1: Think about it. Bobby Wagner has not had that game yet,

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Speaker 1: with this buy. I want to remind everybody Philadelphia is

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Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be like most games come down the

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