Speaker 1: Hey, there're folks. It is Friday, August the twenty ninth,
Speaker 1: And while everybody was focused on that big engagement announcement
Speaker 1: this week, you might have missed several big breakup announcements
Speaker 1: this week. And it's all is wrapping up break up season?
Speaker 1: Is your relationship gonna survive? And with that, welcome to
Speaker 1: this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. Of course, the
Speaker 1: engagement of Travis and Taylor wonderful makes our hearts just
Speaker 1: go a flood.
Speaker 2: It keeps hope alive, doesn't it that love can truly
Speaker 2: exist even in this crazy world of ours.
Speaker 1: But then, but then we got a reality check of sorts,
Speaker 1: not one, uh not two, I guess we got word
Speaker 1: that how many Love Island couples. Three out of the
Speaker 1: last four are no longer together.
Speaker 2: And the ones that are together, we're not even really
Speaker 2: sure what their relationship is. It's not even necessarily confirmed
Speaker 2: as romantics.
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's get to the latest we have, and
Speaker 1: we're jumping on him, but yes, we have another. Iris
Speaker 1: and Pepe. Iris and Pepe have officially said that they
Speaker 1: have broken up. They were one of the final four couples.
Speaker 1: Now this was kind of I thought at least in
Speaker 1: the house we were in was a fan favorite couple.
Speaker 1: They seemed to have it together. Iris very much, no drama. Iris,
Speaker 1: he was cool, sweet, seemed to like her, and they seemed,
Speaker 1: I you know, from a distance, at least it seemed
Speaker 1: like they were good to go for a little bit.
Speaker 2: You know, when I got sucked in. I got sucked
Speaker 2: in when the parents when they flew the parents to
Speaker 2: Fiji to meet everybody, and some of the couples, with
Speaker 2: the way they had the support of their families, I
Speaker 2: just felt like, holy crap, these couples actually have a
Speaker 2: shot in the real world.
Speaker 3: And I was sorely mistaken.
Speaker 1: So I say, Iris and Pepe that was a big
Speaker 1: deal because of how sweet they were. The other big
Speaker 1: deal that we are now getting official word the winners
Speaker 1: a Maya and Brian broke up Amaya and Bryan.
Speaker 2: They seemed rock solid. They seemed unbreakable. And by the way, folks,
Speaker 2: if you watched the Love Island reunion on Monday, those
Speaker 2: couples that we just mentioned, Iris and Pepe and Amaya
Speaker 2: and Brian were seemingly happy and in love in front
Speaker 2: of the world.
Speaker 1: Okay, and this was all apparently by design. Of sorts. Look,
Speaker 1: we give them credit. The special was taped two weeks
Speaker 1: before it aired. A lot can happen in two weeks.
Speaker 1: Apparently a lot did happen in two weeks. But it
Speaker 1: gave us an indication of where things were going, because
Speaker 1: right before the special aired, on Monday night of this week,
Speaker 1: two of the couples Irison, Pepe and Amaya and Brian, Brian, everybody,
Speaker 1: they all unfollowed.
Speaker 2: They followed each other, They.
Speaker 1: Unfollowed each other. So if this is modern dating, now
Speaker 1: that is the announcement that you have broken up.
Speaker 2: Well, we still need more than that. So yes, they
Speaker 2: all unfollowed each other. So Amaya and Brian came forward
Speaker 2: I believe. A couple days later and it was finally
Speaker 2: Iris and Pepe.
Speaker 3: I believe.
Speaker 2: So we're in a different time zone than my youngest analyst.
Speaker 2: But she texted TJ and I on a group text
Speaker 2: with crying and tears emoji tear emoji's because she was
Speaker 2: so upset to hear that.
Speaker 3: Iris and Pepe.
Speaker 2: We woke up to the breaking news that Iris and
Speaker 2: Pepe were unofficial.
Speaker 1: Now we have and I don't at all. I don't
Speaker 1: laugh or to dismiss when I watch these shows. I
Speaker 1: am rooting for these folks. We did several episodes after
Speaker 1: their episodes, essentially saying, hey, these were the great relationship
Speaker 1: lessons you learned. This is what they did good, this
Speaker 1: is what they did all of that stuff. We were really,
Speaker 1: really into it. So I'm certainly rooting for them. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're going to get married, have kids
Speaker 1: and grandkids, but I at least rooting for them for
Speaker 1: a month. They left the villa and had been in
Speaker 1: the real world having a relationship for a month, and
Speaker 1: it's over already. What happened.
Speaker 3: That's disheartening.
Speaker 2: It makes you believe that, yes, perhaps this was just
Speaker 2: a relationship of convenience and perhaps to get as far
Speaker 2: as they could on the island and perhaps launch careers
Speaker 2: that they may want. So it does feel a little disingenuous.
Speaker 2: But I also could say that's the cynic in me.
Speaker 2: But the lover in me would say that relationships are really,
Speaker 2: really hard, and relationships that are forged in a bubble
Speaker 2: can be beautiful and fun and exciting, but when you
Speaker 2: are tested in the real world, that is in fact
Speaker 2: the true test. So I would actually say better that
Speaker 2: they break up now. Than a year from now. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's hard, it's tough out there, and if you don't
Speaker 2: have the foundation, if you don't have the support, if
Speaker 2: you don't have even the logistics in your favor. And
Speaker 2: some of these couples lived in different cities they had also,
Speaker 2: we know what it's like to have the lens of
Speaker 2: the world on you. That absolutely creates a do tension
Speaker 2: where you feel trapped, you feel like you can't do
Speaker 2: or say what you want to do or say. So
Speaker 2: there are a lot of things working against any of
Speaker 2: these couples who are starting off coming out of Paradiseially like.
Speaker 1: So much of the pressure you're talking about. It seems
Speaker 1: like some of the pressure might forge a stronger bond
Speaker 1: or even a more deceptive bond. Meeting they realize, you
Speaker 1: know what, this is beneficial for us to stay together
Speaker 1: for a little while. Let's just stomach it. But after
Speaker 1: a month, if you're done. This is supposed to be
Speaker 1: the most fun they are having is right now.
Speaker 2: On their victory tour, so to speak.
Speaker 3: If you made it to the.
Speaker 2: Final four and you're still a couple and you're having
Speaker 2: fun and Peacock is paying for your travel and your
Speaker 2: meals and your whatever nights out. I would imagine you're
Speaker 2: doing promotion around the country. You get to tour with
Speaker 2: the person who you just fell head over heels for.
Speaker 2: In the height, you think of your honeymoon era. So
Speaker 2: if you can't get through that, probably better to say
Speaker 2: goodbye now than later, because this should be the heyday.
Speaker 1: It should be. But we talk, I how difficult is it?
Speaker 1: This is my I say it all the time. I
Speaker 1: don't say people shouldn't get married young, and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying these relationships can't make it. The issue is just
Speaker 1: you don't have enough of a foundation of friendship and
Speaker 1: love and knowing each other. So when a challenge does
Speaker 1: come up, you can say, ah, I know he really
Speaker 1: didn't mean that, or I know she's gonna come around,
Speaker 1: or I know what this means when he gets this way. Instead,
Speaker 1: everything is just offensive and it's personal because you just
Speaker 1: don't have the trust built up over years with somebody.
Speaker 1: So Amaya came up. Some they called him cheating allegations,
Speaker 1: but they acknowledged he was at a bar serving as
Speaker 1: a bartender and appearance he was making. He was pouring
Speaker 1: shots maybe in women's mouths, and it looked bad.
Speaker 2: It looked like he was being flirt and paying attention
Speaker 2: to other women where his girlfriend was nowhere to be seen.
Speaker 1: Okay, so if your boyfriend or husband of five years
Speaker 1: you see that video, you would call and say, knucklehead,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Don't let me see that anymore?
Speaker 1: Or your shit is going to be on the sidewalk
Speaker 1: when you get back. See you at home, honey. Right,
Speaker 1: there's a foundation. Now she sees something like that, and
Speaker 1: there is no foundation, like, how dare you disrespect me?
Speaker 3: And but the problem is coming off of that.
Speaker 2: They actually she was asked about that at the reunion special,
Speaker 2: and they acted like they had had that exact conversation
Speaker 2: and that she basically sounded just like that, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be with someone who was disrespectful of me. Clearly, if
Speaker 2: I'm still with him right now, that means we're good.
Speaker 2: And they had unfollowed each other. I mean this was
Speaker 2: taped two weeks earlier. So somehow in those two weeks
Speaker 2: between when she said that and when the actual finale
Speaker 2: or reunion aired, something happened where she seemed like, Hey,
Speaker 2: we've already moved past and we're good to suddenly yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm on following you and we broken up.
Speaker 1: I actually hit rewind on that moment a couple of times,
Speaker 1: because as soon as she was the question was asked,
Speaker 1: I think it was directed at Brian. She let out
Speaker 1: a very uncomfortable cackle. It just was it didn't play right.
Speaker 1: It just was a nervous kind of playing it off
Speaker 1: that I swear to you, My eyebrows went up in
Speaker 1: that moment.
Speaker 2: It didn't sound like someone who had moved on or
Speaker 2: who had completely forgiven the other person.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe it was just uncomfortable and have to talk
Speaker 1: about something like this. But she did come out and
Speaker 1: made it official after everybody suspected what was happening, but
Speaker 1: she made it official with a statement that she put
Speaker 1: out and robes I guess, you know what. Let other
Speaker 1: people be their judge of what she's trying to say.
Speaker 2: Okay, she said, Brian and I are no longer together.
Speaker 2: After leaving the villa, it became very clear that we
Speaker 2: were on two different journeys. And I'm just gonna say,
Speaker 2: after leaving the villa, it became very so that means
Speaker 2: immediately to me. So it seems like maybe there was
Speaker 2: some deception going on in that reunion because this statement
Speaker 2: belies what we saw on television this week. By the way,
Speaker 2: Monday we should point out so anyway, after leaving the villa,
Speaker 2: it became very clear that we were on two different journeys.
Speaker 2: Our visions didn't align, and relationships are supposed to be
Speaker 2: a team sport. You don't have to drink the whole
Speaker 2: sea to know it's salty. All love here and I
Speaker 2: truly wish him the best. I feel like that last
Speaker 2: sentence was to try and soften the sentence before it.
Speaker 1: What does that mean.
Speaker 2: It means that she just needed to see what he
Speaker 2: was about. She didn't need to go into a whole
Speaker 2: long relationship with him. She found out pretty quickly one
Speaker 2: taste and she knew he was a little too salty
Speaker 2: for her.
Speaker 3: That's the way I read.
Speaker 1: It, That's how we recit. He responded a short time
Speaker 1: or just saying, hey, I know you're ala. We saw this,
Speaker 1: but he said we went our separate ways quote. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: we were not on the same page, and that is okay.
Speaker 1: We have both gained clarity that we are on different
Speaker 1: paths right now. I am thankful for the time we
Speaker 1: have spent together, and I wish her nothing but the
Speaker 1: best moving forward. It seems after the experience they went through,
Speaker 1: how can you that's not enough exploration a month? You know,
Speaker 1: in a month, maybe you do. But the commitment they
Speaker 1: seem to want to make, I know, we're caught up.
Speaker 1: It's just love Island. But they committed to something that
Speaker 1: they didn't commit to for even a month, just a try.
Speaker 3: Well, Amaya, this is interesting.
Speaker 2: She goes on right after he puts this out on
Speaker 2: someone else's TikTok, a girl who has a video of
Speaker 2: him pouring the shots and doing the flirty thing that
Speaker 2: got him in trouble in the first place, and she says,
Speaker 2: imagine being broken up with only to come on to
Speaker 2: TikTok and find X, Y and Z. So she basically,
Speaker 2: when she left a comment, not just implied, said that
Speaker 2: Brian broke up with her, and so she made it
Speaker 2: very clear that she wanted more and he's the one
Speaker 2: who broke up with her. Look, let me put this
Speaker 2: out there. This was a big concern from a lot
Speaker 2: of the girls that maybe certain guys or certain people
Speaker 2: weren't there for the right reasons. But these guys are
Speaker 2: walking into or out of that villa, into their old
Speaker 2: lives now as studs stars, they're all the girls flocking
Speaker 2: towards them. So they're thinking, wait, at this moment in
Speaker 2: my life where now I'm getting more attention from women
Speaker 2: who I might not have even gotten a second glance
Speaker 2: at beforehand. Why am I not going to be tied
Speaker 2: down to somebody. I'm twenty five. This is the hottest
Speaker 2: I'm going to be. I just I can see that
Speaker 2: going through these guys heads. But that's a woman trying
Speaker 2: to get into a guy's head, which is probably not.
Speaker 3: A smart wait to hear.
Speaker 1: Do you don't have to go through We're not that complicated.
Speaker 1: You don't have to go through our heads. You can
Speaker 1: just watch our actions. And this is what he wants
Speaker 1: to do, and that is okay. It's just what he
Speaker 1: did declared in the villa something different that he wanted
Speaker 1: to pursue with her. I think he was the one
Speaker 1: I even appreciated when he talked about it. Seemed like
Speaker 1: to have a good family like family was very important
Speaker 1: to him in that side.
Speaker 2: Which is why all the girls waiting for him on
Speaker 2: the other side couldn't wait to try and see if
Speaker 2: they could get him to be their family man.
Speaker 1: It's a lot. What did he do for a living?
Speaker 1: I can't remember what they're child.
Speaker 2: I think he was real estate agent and some yeah,
Speaker 2: something like yim he had a decent job.
Speaker 1: But he goes through well, I mean, I don't want
Speaker 1: to call it mundane, but just an average joe, nice guy,
Speaker 1: cool guy, maybe popular guy, whatever, And you come out
Speaker 1: and walk back into that same envice.
Speaker 3: How to poult it to startom and.
Speaker 1: Every and not just everybody. Every woman watched that show. Yes,
Speaker 1: every woman in your age range watch that show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is single and looking for a guy like the one
Speaker 1: who I mean, he's that's coming at him. Not saying
Speaker 1: he succumbed to any of that.
Speaker 2: Yes, but it would make a lot of sense if
Speaker 2: that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 3: And that does seem to be one of.
Speaker 2: The other stories that has developed between Iris and Pepe two,
Speaker 2: because very similar allegations are going on between those two.
Speaker 1: And Pepe did address them. He had a camera put
Speaker 1: in his face by some of our favorite buddies out
Speaker 1: there at TMZ will tell you what he said. Also,
Speaker 1: Iris spoken very classic on brand sweet Iris fashion. When
Speaker 1: you say and we'll give you the updated scoreboard, how
Speaker 1: are the couples from Love Island doing just a month
Speaker 1: after dating in the real world.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to this edition of Amy and TJ. Where
Speaker 2: alas it is the we're starting on the breakup season,
Speaker 2: right it's at the end of summer.
Speaker 1: This we're wrapping it up. Yes, some people rangers, they say,
Speaker 1: either you break up at the beginning of.
Speaker 2: The summer so you can have a hot girl summer
Speaker 2: or hot boys summer.
Speaker 1: And then sometimes people break up at the end of
Speaker 1: summer because they've been distracted by the fun and the
Speaker 1: sun and the vacations. And now you're coming back to
Speaker 1: reflection and the season is changing. You're getting a little
Speaker 1: more pensive and you go, wait a minute, I don't
Speaker 1: want to be with this idiot.
Speaker 2: Or I don't want to bring this person home to
Speaker 2: meet my parents for the holidays. I mean, we really
Speaker 2: do get into holiday mode in about a month.
Speaker 1: There is planning going on right now to make sure
Speaker 1: the right person is heading home for Thanksgar.
Speaker 2: So that summer fleeing might not necessarily be who you
Speaker 2: want to cuff up with with the cuffing up season coming.
Speaker 2: So you got the breakup season and the cuffing up season.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought, going to February, you.
Speaker 2: Cuff up for the holidays and Valentine's Day, right or
Speaker 2: so you want like you want your New Year's Eve kiss,
Speaker 2: you want your Valentine all of that. It's cold, you
Speaker 2: want to snuggle with someone.
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, we are wrapping up breakup season.
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, so the latest breakups to tell you
Speaker 2: about Iris and Pepe. This one was a heartbreaker. As
Speaker 2: I mentioned, Annalise was heartbroken over this. She loved this
Speaker 2: couple from the beginning. She thought they were gonna make
Speaker 2: it to the end, right off into the sunset. Alas,
Speaker 2: they didn't make it very far at all.
Speaker 1: It was a surprise they were in the final four couples.
Speaker 1: I think they came in fourth.
Speaker 2: Because I think because you want to know why, because
Speaker 2: there was no drama, So I think that people didn't
Speaker 2: feel strongly either way. They didn't dislike them, but they
Speaker 2: weren't necessarily like they've made it through so much. You
Speaker 2: weren't invested because you didn't see.
Speaker 3: Them go through anything.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't even remember them even having a hiccup.
Speaker 2: But maybe I'm just they had the other girl there
Speaker 2: for a while, but once they got together, I feel
Speaker 2: like they were good.
Speaker 1: So I guess doesn't work for TV necessarily, but they
Speaker 1: just seemed chill.
Speaker 3: They did.
Speaker 1: They just have no drama with these two. But she
Speaker 1: did put out a statement, at least directly to E
Speaker 1: News in particular, saying that quote, I had hoped to
Speaker 1: keep this private, but I'm so grateful for all of
Speaker 1: the love and support our received since leaving the villa,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to share an update. That connection I
Speaker 1: formed has ended, and while it isn't how I would
Speaker 1: have imagined, I will always value the unique experiences that
Speaker 1: we shared. It's been a difficult transition, but I'm moving
Speaker 1: forward with whole gratitude positivity for the future. Somebody goes
Speaker 1: snatch her up? She is she.
Speaker 2: Seems so sweet. That's just classy, and you know she
Speaker 2: it's kind of crazy. It's the twenty ninth today, so
Speaker 2: fourteen days ago they had this cute little Instagram post
Speaker 2: that they put up with the two of them cuddled
Speaker 2: up with each other talking about how much he loved her,
Speaker 2: he loved her every day of the week that ended
Speaker 2: with a y. I mean that was two weeks ago
Speaker 2: as we record this, so it is confusing what may
Speaker 2: have happened, and a lot of people are already starting
Speaker 2: to speculate. But I will be able to tell you
Speaker 2: here that iris did still come off and sweet. She,
Speaker 2: in response to all of this noise, put something on
Speaker 2: her Instagram stories with a photo of a sunset, so
Speaker 2: I got at the end of end of time. But
Speaker 2: then she had Fleetwood Max God, I love Fleetwood mac
Speaker 2: Silver Springs, and I don't know this song as well,
Speaker 2: but the lyrics were interesting. You know, you choose what
Speaker 2: part of the lyrics you want on your Instagram stories.
Speaker 2: Hers said, time cast a spell on you, but you
Speaker 2: won't forget me. I know I could have loved you,
Speaker 2: but you would not let me. I'll follow you down
Speaker 2: till the sound of my voice will haunt you. You'll
Speaker 2: never get away from the sound of the woman that
Speaker 2: loves you.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: I mean she put her heart out there, like I
Speaker 2: love you and you rejected me. That's what that sounds
Speaker 2: like to me.
Speaker 1: She put her heart out there, sounds like she put
Speaker 1: a spell on him. What is that?
Speaker 3: Well, maybe she's warning him a little Jesus. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: isn't so sweet?
Speaker 1: A yeah? Somebody really?
Speaker 2: Well, you know what the phrases you never know someone
Speaker 2: until you divorce them. But perhaps breakup could even be used.
Speaker 2: It's not quite as intense, but the same rule could apply.
Speaker 1: Still, she did it in a classic way with Fleetwood
Speaker 1: Mac exactly. You can't be offended.
Speaker 2: Agreed, agreed one hundred percent. Now on Pepe's part, so
Speaker 2: there are rumors that he cheated on her. That's I
Speaker 2: don't even know what they are or what how specific
Speaker 2: they are. An else even said I heard, Yeah, this
Speaker 2: is what always ends up.
Speaker 1: Happenings get going.
Speaker 3: People just fill in the void.
Speaker 2: If no one speaks, someone speaks for you, and everyone
Speaker 2: always accuses or assume there's cheating involved, it seems like.
Speaker 2: And so that's the easy one to say. So you've
Speaker 2: got a villain, and you've got someone who you're rooting for.
Speaker 2: And so, yes, Pepe was approached by TMZ. They like
Speaker 2: to find you at LAX A lot of times.
Speaker 3: Is that where this one was?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I feel like that's always.
Speaker 2: Where we see TMZ at LAX, just waiting. But yes,
Speaker 2: they get there. They're friendly, they're very friendly when they
Speaker 2: stick a camera in your face with their kind.
Speaker 1: I wish we could give him credit. There was a
Speaker 1: guy we loved I can't remember his name, but we
Speaker 1: saw him enough times and he was always kind of
Speaker 1: a longer haired guy. He was always cool. Damn it. Well,
Speaker 1: just want to give him credit. As much as TMZ
Speaker 1: does their thing, they.
Speaker 3: Do it, they do it respectfully.
Speaker 1: You know. Our experience has been that so.
Speaker 2: It has love them And that's rare for us to
Speaker 2: say because it can't be said of much many other outlets.
Speaker 2: But TMZ, you have a way about your paparazzi. I
Speaker 2: don't know what to say, but anyway, they got Pepe
Speaker 2: to talk a little bit. This is like such a
Speaker 2: dude response. When they asked if they were still together
Speaker 2: Pepe and Irish, he said, we're not together anymore.
Speaker 3: And that's the way it goes.
Speaker 1: We're direct.
Speaker 2: What do he wants to say, No sugarcoating. Actually, it
Speaker 2: seemed like it really was just a a like a
Speaker 2: bump in the road. I mean, it was only two
Speaker 2: months of his life, true, but they were fairly intense.
Speaker 3: He also said, it's a tough thing.
Speaker 2: It's a tough thing when there's a lot of eyes
Speaker 2: on you twenty four to seven. It's stressful being in
Speaker 2: the limelight. Isn't always the best thing in the world. Amen, Pepe,
Speaker 2: and you've just begun to understand that it doesn't get
Speaker 2: any better. Also said, I don't care what people think
Speaker 2: when he was asked about whether or not he cheated.
Speaker 2: I don't care what people think. I care what my
Speaker 2: friends and family think. Right now, it's focusing on the present,
Speaker 2: focusing on the next steps, next opportunities, and the next
Speaker 2: things that I want to do for fun.
Speaker 3: Well, at least he was honest.
Speaker 1: This is a reality show and we're seeing the reality
Speaker 1: play out. And I think still you could be disappointed
Speaker 1: that people aren't together, But man, I think these shows
Speaker 1: have they do. There is something about them that I
Speaker 1: think is a public service, and you see what happens
Speaker 1: in relationship. We literally now ropes have watched several relationships
Speaker 1: from the inception, the literal first meeting until the breakup
Speaker 1: Instagram post. We have watched it in the past several
Speaker 1: months and it's.
Speaker 2: Fascinating because whether people are putting on airs or I
Speaker 2: don't know, mugging for the cameras, there are still legitimate
Speaker 2: human moments that you see each and every time where
Speaker 2: ego plays a role, where people get defensive. Rejection is
Speaker 2: hard and there's lots of that, even if it's quick
Speaker 2: and it's early. Imagine being rejected with cameras rolling. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's a tough thing to stomach. And so you see
Speaker 2: the best and the worst of people come out in
Speaker 2: these shows, and there are a lot of opportunities to
Speaker 2: learn how humans react and what the natural reaction is
Speaker 2: and how we can all do better and be better.
Speaker 3: But I do want to point.
Speaker 2: Out, in terms of being excited about these shows sometimes
Speaker 2: actually producing lasting relationships, it does happen. Cordell and Cordell
Speaker 2: and Serena from season six Love Island USA, we watched
Speaker 2: that whole season two.
Speaker 3: They are still together. I love that they have and.
Speaker 2: They're not living together yet, but they have basically said
Speaker 2: that that is the next step and that they do
Speaker 2: want to get engaged, and so we are rooting for them,
Speaker 2: and I like to believe that even though yes, most
Speaker 2: of these probably will crash and burn, given how they've
Speaker 2: started and given the pressure that well, the pressures that
Speaker 2: these kids are under and their kids, they're young kids
Speaker 2: and they're just being exposed to fame. It's like being
Speaker 2: it's not like a slow evolution. They are being catapulted
Speaker 2: to fame where they can't have imagined what it would
Speaker 2: be like to be public fodder, and now they are.
Speaker 2: So all of that pressure adds to perhaps the not
Speaker 2: so great ratio of success that these shows have had,
Speaker 2: But I still love to know that it can happen
Speaker 2: and love can win.
Speaker 3: After all.
Speaker 1: All right, folks, Well with that, I hope you survive
Speaker 1: break up season that we are currently all in, but
Speaker 1: we always appreciate you hanging with us. Remember as always,
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Speaker 1: The only thing we got left wood is sports, and.
Speaker 3: Count me out on that one. Okay, well, college football,
Speaker 3: maybe that's it.
Speaker 1: Folks. Would always appreciate your lesson and talk to y's soon.
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