1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: What's top Everybody welcome to Move the Sticks, presented by 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Zaxby's d J. Bucky Back with you, Buck, Happy Thanksgiving man, Man, 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours like it's a fun holiday, Man. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: So much to be thankful for, obviously. I'm thankful for 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: you and our partnership and all the people behind the scenes, 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: Mark Brady and the Bill everyone that makes this stuff 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: happen for us on the Movie six podcast, and I'm 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: just really excited. Man. Look at twenty has been a 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: very very challenging gear for a lot of people, but 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: I think, uh, for you and I and our listeners 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: or whatever, most of us hopefully have made it through 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: and we're going to come out of it on the 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: better end. Yeah, that's a great way to put it, Buck, Obviously, 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: very thankful for you, for our whole team. I throw 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: a Ryan Bartland in there for the job he does 17 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: with the video show as well. Thankful for the whole 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: whole bunch. And I'm also thankful you mentioned it for 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: for all you guys that have listened to us and 20 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: watched us over the years. We've been doing us for 21 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: a long time now, and a bunch of you have 22 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: been with us from the beginning. Some of you have 23 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: just recently hopped a board, but um, you guys have 24 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: always been real kind us and especially on social media 25 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: as well as leaving us those reviews on Apple podcasts 26 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: with with nice things to say on YouTube videos everything. 27 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: So we appreciate you guys join us and staying with us. 28 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: And this is really the fun time of year because 29 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: we're getting towards the meaningful games in the college season, 30 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: the NFL season. Uh, we're a day closer to the 31 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: draft every day, which is what we love as well 32 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: and the team building side of things. So it's a 33 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: fun time of year. Yeah, it's a fun time of year. 34 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: And I think I think, um from an evaluation standpoint, 35 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: even though the pandemic changed the college football calendar, still man, 36 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: when I when I get to Thanksgiving, I'm thinking, Hey, 37 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: we've got to get these reports and we need to 38 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: wrap it up in terms of who are the guys 39 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: who do we really need to dig into? Who are 40 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: the top one hundred fifty guys that I definitely need 41 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: to know about and really hone in really on those 42 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: blue Chippers those guys that are to top of the board, 43 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: no doubt. Well we've got a fun show today. You 44 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: had a chance to catch up with Trent dill For 45 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: our good buddy, who's doing a phenomenal job as a 46 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: high school coach Lipscomb Academy there in Nashville, Tennessee. But 47 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: also everybody knows Trent super Bowl winning quarterback. He's been 48 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: a kind of the key cog here in the Elite 49 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: eleven who's been training and working with all these top 50 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks. You join him on that each and every year, Buck, 51 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: But you guys have a great relationship as well, and 52 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: you had a chance to sit down and talk with 53 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: Trent about what's going on with some of these young 54 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the National Football League. Uh, nobody better at 55 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: discussing that than our good buddy Trent Dilfor man, it's 56 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: always fun when I get a chance to talk to 57 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: guys who are really really close, guys that I considered friends, mentors, brothers. However, 58 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: you want to share, Like the love between myself and 59 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: Trent Dilfer really goes beyond the game, the things that 60 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: we've done together. But then I'm really excited and I'm 61 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: really thankful considering that the Thanksgiving holiday that I am 62 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: talking to the hottest coach in the game, Trent Dilfer, 63 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: head of the Lipscomb Academy, planning the state championship. My man, 64 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: how's everything going. It's going, good luck. Thanks for the 65 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: nice words. It's been uh really rewarding journey. Uh here 66 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: at this high school thing. UM, so proud of our 67 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: coaches are boys, and I got a big one here 68 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: to Semmer third it's it's try. So this is funny 69 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: because we both are second year head coaches. And I'll 70 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: tell you, man, the high school thing has been so 71 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: rewarding for me. I've learned so much more about ball 72 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: since I've been in the high school game than I 73 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: ever could imagine. How has it been for you just 74 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: in terms of what have you learned now that you're 75 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: feeding in the grass as a high school head coach 76 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: compared to just being an analyst and other stuff. I 77 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: think the biggest thing is as a player, as an analysts, 78 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: sometimes you live in a little bit of an idealistic world. Um, 79 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: you're playing with the best athletes in the world, you're 80 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: evaluating the best athletes in the world. Um, and then 81 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: sometimes when you're given analysis as a commentator. UM, it 82 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: gets I don't want to say dumbed down, but you 83 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: have to simplify it enough to just that guy's other 84 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: than that guy. You know, Willias and Joe's dude verse 85 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: dude uh. In the high school level, you might have 86 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: some very gifted players, and we do. We have guys 87 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: that will play on Saturdays and big games in SEC 88 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: and the SEC, and we may even have some guys 89 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: to play out Sunday. But you also have guy forty 90 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: eight on your roster that needs to be productive for 91 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: you on a Friday night and has some really important roles, 92 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: and he just can't do some of the things physically, um, 93 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: that we're used to. And how you communicate, how you teach, 94 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: how you get your coaches to teach, is incredibly important 95 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: for the success of your team. And then the other 96 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: thing too is it's a different age. You know, we 97 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: we came together in college and the NFL winning life 98 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: or death right. And when you're winning, you know, your 99 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: wife's pretty, your food taste good, everything's great. When you're losing, 100 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: this's the opposite here. They have to have a sense 101 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: of accomplishment, a sense of purpose. UM, that goes beyond 102 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: what the score board says. Uh. So you really have 103 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: to create a culture where um, they're getting better. It's 104 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: process driven and they're always trying to each their human potential. 105 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: You're really celebrating a lot of little successes. So you know, 106 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: your fifth team receiver in a perimeter drill today, actually 107 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: it happened or in a perimeter drill and uh, he 108 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: does a great job of creating leverage and um, elbows in, 109 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: thumbs out, palms out, punching in the chest, creating space 110 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: for the perimeter receiver to catch the ball and run. 111 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: You know when when you pull him aside and you 112 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: compliment him for that a job well done. All the 113 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: works that he's put in is paying off. That's his 114 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: game night. That might be the best thing anybody says 115 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: to him in the football world for four months. So 116 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: you have to recognize those things as well. I go 117 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: on and on on, but there's just so many things 118 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: that are different than the highest levels. But I would 119 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: argue probably more rewarding, you know, because I feel like 120 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm always taking notes right because we sit in a 121 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: unique chair, because we're able to talk to some of 122 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: the best and brightest minds at the highest levels. But 123 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: sometimes we take those nuggets and we try to share 124 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: as we're building our own programs are impacting young people. UM, 125 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: who have been the biggest influences on you in terms 126 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: of your coaching style, of the way you handle your 127 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: team or your players. That's a great question. I'll start 128 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: with two coaches I have on my staff. Phil Dawson, 129 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: who kicked twenty one years in the NFL, I've never coached, 130 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: but always dreamed of coach and always took a coaching 131 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: approach to his craft. And then Sny who we both 132 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: know really well, UM, head coach of a huge program 133 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: in Northern Calati big programs Northern California. Really took a 134 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: leap of faith to come out here and be my 135 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. II lean on those guys, I mean we 136 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: we kind of make co head coach decisions most of 137 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: the time. Usually the three of us, along with Joey Roberts, 138 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: huddle talk about culture, talk about programming, UM, structuring practices, 139 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: time off lifting schedules. I had Luke Richards into that. UM. 140 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes I forget that I have the best drink coach 141 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: in the country. Uh, he's with the Houston Texans. Before 142 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: he came here, went to Super Bowls one one with 143 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: the Broncos Um. So to have those minds on my staff, 144 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: we're always bouncing things off. You're always learning from him. 145 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: A lot of my coaching style comes from a combination. 146 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: I would say of Jim Sweeney, who very few remembered, 147 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: was a legendary head coach. Jeff Tedford, who was my 148 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: offens coordinator at Fresno State, went on to be a 149 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: head coach at Cal and was an office cordinator Tampa 150 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: and then again uh Fresno State pere he retired. I 151 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: pull a lot of Homegren and Norv out of there too, 152 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: Um North Turner. I learned a lot of offense from 153 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: I would say a lot of what we do offensively 154 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: has its roots and Norv stuff, um, and some West 155 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: Coast stuff from Homegren Uh. And then Tony Dungee just 156 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: from a global standpoint, you know. I learned so much 157 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: from Tony on how to manage personalities, how to coach coaches, 158 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: how to coach coaches hard, but then give them time 159 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: to be real people and not just lock themselves in 160 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: a cave. Um. So I've had some incredible mentors and 161 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: influencers in my life, and I try to pull off 162 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: all of you know, I I think you know this 163 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: about me, Buck, But when we started doing a lead 164 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: eleven in the opening, I really wanted to take that serious, 165 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: you know. I wanted to be a good leader for 166 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: those things. So I did a lot in two thousand 167 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: and eight, two thousand ten, a lot of um planning 168 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: on what coaching looks like and what my coaching style 169 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: would be, a lot of journaling, a lot of studying 170 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: of other great coaches, and I think that process of 171 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: learning as a player. And then oh eight, nine, ten, eleven, uh, 172 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: and then these last two years, I'm kind of settling 173 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: into what I think my coaching style is. And and 174 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: I've I've taken, I've stolen a lot of good things 175 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: from a lot of good people. It's funny that you 176 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: say that, right, because I'm in my office and I 177 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: just want to show you this. This is my journal. Yeah, 178 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: this is my leather bound journal. And Trent, I can 179 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: tell you every day something goes into a nugget that 180 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: I hear something that I think about, a tactic that 181 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to master. So I can take something complex, 182 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: simplified and spit it to my coaches and players in 183 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: an understandable way. And it takes a lot of time 184 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: to vet that out. And so because you're now in 185 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: this unique situation and I know I see you on 186 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: TV and you talk about it, how has being a 187 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: coach made you a little more empathetic towards coaches when 188 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: you're talking about what they're doing on Saturdays and Sundays 189 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: and developing their players. It has um I think one. 190 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: You know, I always go back. I look a lot 191 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: less now on what schemes, tactics teams are using, UH 192 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: and more. The vibe of their team. That's probably the 193 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: simplest word I could use. You can call it culture, 194 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: you can call it temperament, but just the vibe of 195 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: their team. I look at Indiana and this coach at Indiana, 196 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: what he's done. Yeah, he's done that by not just 197 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: preaching it, by showing energy right there. There's guys that 198 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: there's energy vampires, there's guys that bring life with their energy. 199 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: And it's obvious that he went in there and he said, 200 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, we're we're gonna be a bunch of guys 201 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: a breath life into one another. I love what he 202 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: said at half time against Ohio State. You know, I'm 203 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: watching that game kind of getting away from him, and 204 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: he says, the character our team is gonna show. And 205 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: they start doing these cutaways to the sideline and guys 206 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: are loving each other and they're active there and they're 207 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: butts whipped, but they're active and energetic and excited to 208 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: be in the game and and they know they're gonna 209 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: take care of them and they actually made it a ballgame. Um. 210 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: So I look at the vibe of teams, see teams 211 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: where guys are shoulders are slumping, they're too hard on themselves. 212 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: What was me attitudes? That tells me there's something going 213 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: on with the vibe the culture. Um that that probably 214 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: goes back to something that happened on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, 215 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: and you started pointing those things. I've really learned to 216 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: appreciate the great coaches and the great programs, and that's 217 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 1: not always wins and losses. Um. The Northwestern you know, 218 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: look what the Cheryl's in the Northwestern not just because 219 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: they're winning, but even when they're not winning. Like I've 220 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: always admired him because his team has always played hard. 221 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: Eleven hats of the ball, guys are running to the ball, 222 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: they're getting off tackles, they're playing with jews. Um, then 223 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: they're not never quitting. You never see a Northwestern team 224 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: I kinda feel sorry for themselves and lay it down. 225 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: So I guess long wink an answer to say that, Um, 226 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: I look at it very differently now that I'm coaching 227 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: and I try to steal something. I watch a ton 228 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: of football on Saturday, a lot of football on Sunday, 229 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: and I'm always looking for things still to make us 230 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: a better program. Yeah, it's funny because I think we're 231 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: in lockstep with that. Like I think I probably put 232 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: more time into just looking at the game and really 233 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: paying attention to coaches and what they say pre presses, 234 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: post pressure is how to handle situations and those things. 235 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: And so I want to use that as a jumping 236 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: point to start talking about these young quarterbacks in the league, 237 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: because I know you know them really well, and because 238 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: we talked about it, and because I know you know 239 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: to a talk about look very very well. I just 240 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: kind of want to talk about the situation that took 241 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: place Miami when they set him down, and just based 242 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: on what you know about him, how do you affect 243 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: him to bounce back? And handle the adversity that has 244 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: suddenly popped up for him. I think it's great. I 245 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: mean Joy and I were talking about it on uh 246 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: Sunday night, I think, or Monday morning. How what a 247 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: need opportunity for him to show his character. We know 248 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: that he he doesn't lead by circumstance. He's a natural 249 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: born leader. He's a he's a lifebringer in terms of 250 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: his energy. He doesn't let circumstance just dictate his attitude. Um. 251 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: So I think it's a great opportunity for his team 252 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: to see him thrive uh in this little piece of adversity. 253 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: I think that there's also perspective on his struggles. Vic 254 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: Fangio did a heck of a job against Derrek, Derek 255 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: Carr and Patrick Holmes, who is not the first one 256 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: that vic Fancio's defense got after a little bit. So 257 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna learn some real lessons from what the best 258 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: defensive coordinators do to take you out of your game. 259 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: I think his game will grow. I think it's worth 260 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick's and too. I think Fits is one of those 261 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: great minds in the game that even if he's playing 262 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: or not playing, he's got a very analytical brain. For 263 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: the game, and he can sit down with two and say, Hey, 264 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: here's what I was seeing on the pick that cost 265 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: us the game, Here's why I threw it. Hey, in 266 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: your twenty passes, here's how they're defending you. And in 267 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: very short amount of time to it can take some 268 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: nuggets away from that experience. So I think it's all 269 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: good that he got benched. I think it's all good 270 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: that he's facing this adversity. Uh. And now, if I 271 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: thought he was a fragile soul, I wouldn't be saying this. 272 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: But I know he's been hardened. I know he's his 273 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: attitude second to none, and I know he's always been 274 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: a bounced back guy. So I expect him to bounce 275 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: back and play some of his best football in the 276 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: next few weeks. Yeah, it's funny. This is a unique 277 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: time to be a young quarterback in the league. I 278 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: mean it was hard when we played in particularly when 279 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: you played the position. But yeah, there are more voices, 280 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: more opinions, more noise on the outside. If you could 281 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: advise a young quarterback on how to handle all of 282 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: this stuff, what would you tell them right now? A 283 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: big question. I think the biggest thing is um you know, 284 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: you have to literally tune it out. I mean I would. 285 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: I would not have Instagram, I wouldn't have Twitter. But 286 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: that's me, you know. I just wouldn't let the noise 287 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: come in. Um, wouldn't read the papers, definitely wouldn't watch 288 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: the TV shows. I think it's hilarious when I see 289 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks engaging with TV personalities on DM or on 290 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: Twitter in front of the world. Why are you listening? Um? 291 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: But I think bigger than that is as really try to, 292 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: you know, get them. And I do this with my quarterback. 293 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: Is every single play, Okay, every play is the biggest 294 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: play of your life. And if you put that pressure 295 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: on yourself down in and down out and have the 296 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: expect expectation of perfection and fall for greatness, um, then 297 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna be your your harshest critic. Um. You won't 298 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: lose confidence because you have a lot of victories in there. 299 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: So you'll gain confidence because you'll have a lot of 300 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: many victories. But you won't be worried about criticism because 301 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: you'll be your harshest critic in that process. Going one 302 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: step further, every chance you have to be the quarterback. 303 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: So being the quarterbacks more than taking the snap right. 304 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: Being the quarterback happened. It's happened in the room next 305 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: to me as we're talking, as the offense is meeting 306 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: and our quarterback is having to answer to some mistakes 307 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: he made in the first matchup against his team. We're 308 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: playing the state finals. He gets called out to talk 309 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: about the scheme and talk about decision making. And by 310 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: taking that leadership role of being the quarterback in a 311 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: meeting room, being the quarterback in the weight room, being 312 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: the quarterback at a pep rally, being the quarterback all 313 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: these different times, the more you're the quarterback, the more 314 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: hardened you become to the burden of that quarterback leadership 315 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: and just becomes a second halt to you. Um So, 316 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: I think all that goes into it, but I think 317 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: you have to And this is where I think coaching 318 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: is really important of the quarterback position is all this 319 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: stuff has to be um emphasized by the coaching staff constantly, 320 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: all the opportunities you have to grow and develop, You're 321 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: never gonna be there here. Tom Brady, he still doesn't 322 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: think he's reached the pinnacle. He's always climbing for something more. 323 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: You give a quarterback that perspective, and the rest of 324 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: this stuff kind of settles and goes away. You know, 325 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: it's funny because you talked about the noise, and there 326 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: was a lot of noise about Justin Herbert prior to 327 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: the draft, a lot of questions and doubts and can't 328 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: you get it done? And now he's been celebrated and 329 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: you're talking about people saying that he may be the 330 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: best one when you've had a chance to look at 331 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and casually, what have you been most impressed 332 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: with by him? From decisiveness? Um, he has been so 333 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: decisive with the ball. I mean, there was no question 334 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: of his talent. I don't think very many of us 335 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: argued about the talent. We kind of all said, all 336 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: of us that have this job evaluating quarterbacks, they're all 337 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: ice cream, right. Ice Cream is awesome. Some like vanilla, 338 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: some like men Chips, some like Rocky Roads, some like 339 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: whatever your favorite ice cream is. There's different flavors that 340 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: you like the most. At the end of the day, 341 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 1: ice cream is awesome unless you're looked, what is it? Uh? Um? 342 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: But we all like ice cream. They're just different versions 343 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: of ice cream. And Justin was a rare flavor that 344 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: had a lot of power and twitch in it. Um 345 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: his skill set jumped off the tape. I wrote an 346 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: article for The Athletic two years ago where I talked 347 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: about how it was a rare combination of power and 348 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: twitch um and that should serve him very well. I 349 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: think the question was one he plays he played college 350 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: football in Canada's Matt Hasselbac used to say, he playing 351 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: in the Northwest. It's like playing in Canada. And when 352 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: we watches you, um so, a lot of people really 353 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: hadn't seen a lot of his games. So then you 354 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: get to the game tape and you're looking at it 355 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: from such an analytical view. Okay, it's too high, he 356 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: should do this, it's one height, he should do that. Oh, 357 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: here's de stig making and conflict blah blah blah. And 358 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: you kind of talk yourself out of how good he 359 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: is because some of those I frankly don't understand what 360 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: they were doing up they're all the time. I think 361 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: I know a lot of it, but I don't understand 362 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: all the wise, so you don't have all the answers. 363 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 1: And then it was you know, you're not sure with 364 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: some of these young guys once they go to the 365 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: big time, right, once the stage is really big, how 366 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: they're gonna respond? Well, we knew how to and Burrows respond. 367 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: They played on the biggest stage SEC is the NFL, 368 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: just on Saturdays, so you know they've been hardened to 369 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 1: that environment. With Herbert, You're like, I don't know, Um, 370 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: so to say, I'm surprised, I'm surprised he's having this 371 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: type of success. I'm not surprised of the types of 372 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: plays he's making because he made these same plays in 373 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: college football and the talent jumped off the page. I 374 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: also think Pep's doing a great job with him, Rip 375 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: Shears doing a great job with him, and there they're 376 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: doing a great job with him managing his young career. Um. 377 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: But again, I'm talking way too much. But I'm sorry. No, 378 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: So what I've been saying about these three, let's hold 379 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: off and saying who the best is unto like your three? Yes, 380 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: hopefully we're talking about him like Eli, Ben and Rivers, 381 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: where all three are amazing. They're amazingly different, but they're amazing. UM. 382 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: I would not love nothing more than to see that 383 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: class go on to the Hall of Famers, this next 384 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: class go on to the Hall of Famers. The class 385 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: before right have incredible careers. We know Patrick is going 386 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: to be there, So I think the state of quarterback 387 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: and is awesome, and this is just the next three 388 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: that makes it more awesome. Yeah, it's funny that that 389 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: you talk about that, and I appreciate you sharing so 390 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: much time. I have a couple more that I want 391 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: to get to because I have to mention Burrow because 392 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: we talked about two and Herbert Burrow has the injury. 393 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: And I'm not necessarily leaning on you for you inside 394 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: in terms of what you've seen for him, but if 395 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: you were his closest, confident and having dealt with injuries, 396 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: how can he take this time where he's away and 397 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: become a better version of the player that we saw 398 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: when he shows up again, he's already done it. I 399 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: actually has his answered already. He did this because his 400 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: junior year and his senior at l s U, the 401 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: guy was average at best. He admitted it at the 402 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy ceremony. He was average at best, and he 403 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: took a workman like approach a day and day out, 404 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna out, I'm gonna do the work. I'm gonna 405 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: do it. More than anybody else. And I'm gonna show 406 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: up my senior. I'm gonna light the world on fire. 407 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: And guess what he did. He can date that exact 408 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: same approach to rehab. He can take that exact same 409 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: approach to leadership within his organization. He did that exact 410 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: same approach to his film. Study all the little things 411 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: that it takes to be a master of this position. 412 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: He'll do it like I have zero doubts that this dude. 413 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: He's gonna probably wait a couple of weeks for the 414 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: swelling to go down. Press surgery. He's gonna have surgery, 415 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be calling all the specialists around the 416 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: country saying, what's the best way to rehab? How can 417 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: I speed it up? Okay, while I'm rehab, what do 418 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: I need to pay for to have it at my 419 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: house so I can be doing at my house, so 420 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: I can have my three fifty in TVs, have different 421 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: film on. I'm gonna study the game. He gonna study 422 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: his playbook. He's gonna be having zoom meetings with his coaches, 423 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: working on schemes and this thing. This guy is gonna 424 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: attack it. He's not gonna feel sorry for himself. I 425 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: just so sick and tired of here him analysts saying, oh, 426 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: it's so tragic. Great athletes don't feel that way, and 427 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, got kicked in the stomach. We get 428 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: my breath back and go back to work. Um. I'm 429 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: more concerned since San Bengal's organization than I am Joe 430 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: Burrow that our organizations just got kicked in the groin. Um. 431 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: Now they don't have the hope they had when he 432 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: was playing. I don't worry about Joe Burrow one bit. 433 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: Based on what he did from the junior at l 434 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: s U to a senior, he'll just replicate that in 435 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: a different fashion and he'll be better, um than he 436 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: was when he got hurt. You know, Trent, we we've 437 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: been so fortunate that with these quarterbacks we get an 438 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: opportunity to see the next generation before the world season. 439 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of excitement and anticipation over Trevor 440 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 1: Lawrence and Justin Fields and Trey Lance. You've been around 441 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: each of those guys. Share a little perspective on each 442 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: of those guys and just what makes each of them special. 443 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: I'll try to make a quicks I've talked too much. 444 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: Trevor is unique. You know, He's just unique. He's the 445 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: ultimate combination of power twitch six six extremely powerful and 446 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: strong but twitchy like he's, you know, a six one 447 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: two pound kid. Um has played more quarterback if you 448 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: go back to his freshmor in high school, He's been 449 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: the quarterback as much as anybody's ever been the quarterback. 450 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: Nothing phases him. A unique leader also said this about Trevor. 451 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: The signature moment to me for Trevor Lawrence and I 452 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: try to bring this up in every interview. Idea about 453 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: Trevor was at the opening with Craig Noll. You remember, 454 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, if you remember, you know he was 455 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: the dude. He wasn't having the greatest camp. He's having 456 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: a good camp, not the greatest. Um and everybody else's 457 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: worried about Instagram and social media and hype, and Trevor's 458 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: bugg and Craig Noll at ten o'clock at night to 459 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: take him out of bed and teach him more football. 460 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: He went to the opening. All he wanted to do 461 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: is learn more ball. He had learned a lot of 462 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: ball in high school. He wanted to capitalize on the 463 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: opportunity to being around some really good coaches with NFL pedigrees, 464 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: and all he wanted to do is learn more ball 465 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: and and talking to Dabbo the handful of times I've 466 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: talked to Dabbo says the same thing, says this guy 467 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: can't get enough. He just wants to know everything there 468 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: is no about football and playing quarterback. So you combine 469 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: that with his natural talents. I never flinched, And people 470 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: say he's just guaranteed first pick. I get it. I 471 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: can see why people want him so bad. Now, Trevor Lawrence, 472 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Tarling Lawrence. Justin Fields is unique in the 473 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: sense that he's a once in a generation type athlete. 474 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 1: And this is a kid that in high school ran 475 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: four or five laser two twenty pounds. He's only gotten picker, 476 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: He's only gotten faster. He's become a really pure pastor. 477 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: He too, is playing a lot of quarterback. His completion 478 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: percentage represents his mastery of his offense. Um, you know, 479 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: his ability to extend plays but also play on rhythm. Uh, 480 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: you kind of get the best of both worlds. With 481 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: everybody's falling in love with the NFL. We saw some 482 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: hill the other day. His athleticism create time and space, 483 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: extend plays. We've seen it with Lamar Jackson, we see 484 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. You see with all these great quarterbacks 485 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: that can attack the land scripters with their legs but 486 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: also threatened with the arm. I mean, Justin is kind 487 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: of the ultimate one because he has the twitchiness and 488 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: that incredible athleticism of some of these guys that aren't 489 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: as refined as him throwing the ball, and he's only 490 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: gonna get better. I think Trey is super interesting. Um, 491 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: he's very much like Justin. He just hasn't played a 492 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: ton of football, you know what I mean. Here's a 493 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: guy that madn't have an antiquated offense in high school. Uh, 494 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: goes to college and is one every time he's showing up, 495 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: but he just doesn't have a ton of opportunities of 496 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: being the quarterback. Now. I don't think that's gonna hurt 497 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: him long term, but I do think I would draft 498 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: him high. But he's a guy that needs to play 499 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: in every preseason game. He needs every rep. He needs 500 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: as many opportunities to play quarterback early on to to 501 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: make up the gap of the lack of times he's 502 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: played quarterback. And I think there's some other sneakers in here. 503 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: I think Iam Book is a really good Kirk Cousins 504 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: comparison um wherever you wherever you settle on that one. 505 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: I think the kid out of b y U Wilson. 506 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: You know, he's a really good athlete. He was a 507 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: hunter plus Nike Sport guy at a young age. He's 508 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: only gotten bigger and short. You can see his physicality 509 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: now when you watch him this year. Those the paths 510 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: and the pants are tight and he looks like a 511 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: man back there. He's got great arm, talent, he's crafty. 512 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: You know, he's got some I don't know who to say, 513 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: just that intuition that Drew Brees intuition of playing the position. 514 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: I think he's somebody, somebody to be excited about. Kellen 515 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: Mond in Texas A and M. Why isn't be talking 516 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: about Kellen Mon? And this guy's pretty a ton of football, 517 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: has a huge arm, is a very good athlete. I 518 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: remember calling plays for him at the Elite eleven. I 519 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: learned early on that the kid could rip scenes, so 520 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: I think we ran twenty two plays. He's come around that. 521 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: I get called like sixteen team prout because the guy 522 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: could rip seems in as good as anybody. So quarterbacks 523 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: are only getting better. You know all their trainers, I 524 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: mean we know all these guys. They get the information. 525 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: They can go on their computer and watch how Tom 526 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: Brady prep for a season. Now Jared got preps for 527 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: a season. They get all the ins and outs. They 528 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: can call any of us on the phone and pick 529 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: our brains. I mean, these guys know so much about 530 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: the position at such a young age. It blows me away. 531 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: I mean you've heard me say at the Lead eleven. 532 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: These these days high school kids are better than I 533 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: was my third year in the NFL, And now I 534 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: look at I played fourteen years and I was never 535 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: as good as half the guys coming out. So um, 536 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: quarterbacking is getting awesome. The coaches are getting smarter, the 537 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,959 Speaker 1: schemes are getting better. I only see scoreboards lighting up 538 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: more and only seeing more of these kids that we 539 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: talked about so critically getting ready for the draft. Herbert, 540 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: I mean, god, because he went six and now he's 541 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: lighting up the league. It wouldn't surprise me if this 542 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: happens again with this next class. Well, one thing I know, man, 543 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: you're awesome. You're us and not only as a coach 544 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: and as a leader, but just as a great dude. 545 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: And uh, I am so happy for you. I'm so 546 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: excited about the opportunity that's in front of you. I 547 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: certainly hope that you enjoyed the experience because it is 548 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: something that is great and is memorable not only for you, 549 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: but for the whole Liftsking community. I'm pulling for you. 550 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna check it out. Best of luck to you 551 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: going for they want because I think you appreciate this. 552 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: A little vignette of our football team I'm probably most 553 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: proud of. We played the defending State Chance friday night. 554 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: We had our way with them. We've been in fifty 555 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: six thirteen. They scored on the last play of the game. 556 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: We had subbed in. They scored it to get their 557 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: thirteen point. We roll on our field goal block team. 558 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: It shouldn't they get it. Shouldn't even have the field 559 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: goal block because it should be a running clock. But 560 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: they messed it up. So we roll out our backup 561 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: field goal block team and we blocked the extra. We 562 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: had eleven dudes and that I've sat on the sideline 563 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: the whole game in a blog game. And they went 564 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: out and they took the heart every plays the most 565 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: important player of life. And we had Lou Paul, who's 566 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 1: a four string corner for us. Great kid, great worker, 567 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: come off the edge layout, perfect technique, handing the right 568 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: place and block the extra point. We used as a 569 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: as an example to our football team that you never 570 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: know when your number is gonna be called. You never 571 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: know what plays the most important play play everyone likes, 572 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: the last play of your life. And our kids took 573 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: a dark man. That's awesome, man, it's a great story. 574 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: Best of luck, Trent Man. I'm looking forward to him. Man. 575 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: I hope you get a ring. Hope you just begin 576 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: to sow the seeds of something that's gonna be great 577 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: and long lasting. Dear, thanks for I appreciate you well, Buck, 578 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for thanks for doing that. Man, Thanks for catching 579 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: up with Trent. I wish I could have joined you 580 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: on that one. He's a he's one of my favorites 581 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: to talk to. But he's a fantastic coach, a fantastic teacher, 582 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: and UM obviously on the outside and I've been able 583 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: to be around him and watch him grow um as 584 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: a coach, as a teacher, as a leader. UM really 585 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: excited about all the success that he's had and no 586 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: doubt one thanks again to Trent for taking some time 587 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: for us on this one. All Right, I want to 588 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: get to some of these quarterbacks, these these rookies, and 589 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: kind of just an assessment of what we've seen and 590 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: what we can expect going forward, because it's been an 591 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: interesting week. Um, you've got Justin Herbert who continues to 592 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: roll right along charges finally get a win there against 593 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: the Jets. He was fantastic. Um, you get to the 594 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: situations with him getting pulled, which we can get into 595 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: by for Ryan Fitzpatrick, and then you have the unfortunate 596 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: injury there to Joe Burrow. So just kind of a 597 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: big picture on those three quarterbacks and what you've seen 598 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: individually and where we are. Well, We're sorry Joe Burrow 599 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: because I think Joe Burrow was everything that we thought 600 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: he could be. Um. Some of the concerns that we 601 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: had were the pieces around to namely that offensive line. 602 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: Uh and look, you don't want to put it on 603 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: those guys for the fact that he was hurt, but 604 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: we did worry about the amount of throws that he 605 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: was having behind the leak offensive line. Would it catch 606 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: up to him. The positive stuff that we've seen from 607 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow Man, he is an A level competitor. Um. 608 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: He is what we call a thermostatic leader. He changes 609 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: the temperature in the room when he steps in. Uh. 610 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: We heard Urban Meyer and other guys talk about that 611 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: and how his leadership ability was felt, and I think 612 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: you could fill it with the Cincinnati Bengals. This was 613 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: a very competitive team with Joe Burrow on the field. 614 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: I like the synergy and connection that he had with 615 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd and te Higgins. Um. Joe mixing had been 616 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: hurt a little bit, but I think you like the 617 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: pieces on the outside that are around him. I think 618 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: as he bounces back from this knee injury, and look, 619 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: it's one that has a few complications obviously because it's 620 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: beyond the A C. But we've seen guys come back 621 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: from this. I am bullish on what Joe Burrow is 622 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: going to be in the National Football League. My challenge 623 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: will be to Zach Taylor and the Cincinnati Bengals front 624 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: office build a fortress around your Ken. Make sure that 625 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: you invest heavily in the offensive line, picks, free agency, 626 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: everything the King needs to play. Behind the fortress and 627 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: so they need to make sure they invest and make 628 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: sure that they give him what he needs to be 629 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,719 Speaker 1: able to thrive from the pocket. Yeah. I mean one 630 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: nugget here, just looking at the stats here, thirty seven 631 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: rushing attempts for Burrow. Uh, you look at Justin Herbert 632 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: has thirty nine. Justin Herbert's six six two or forty 633 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: pound like Herbert. Herbert can't afford to do that. And 634 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: even he's done a better job of slide and protecting himself. Um, 635 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: you talk about putting a fortress in front of of 636 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, I think that's obviously very important, Buck, but 637 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: he's also got to be a little more careful and 638 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: not quite as reckless as a runner. Now, this injury 639 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: took place with him in the pocket. Nothing he can 640 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: do to avoid this one. But but I mean that's 641 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: something going forward. I don't think he's built to be 642 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: able to carry it that much. No, and I wouldn't 643 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 1: want to do it. And I think sometimes he has 644 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: to understand, Um, he has to look around at the 645 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: guys that have played for a long time and figure 646 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: out what was the exit strategy in terms of when 647 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: the pressure comes and I can't win, how do I 648 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: get out of it? Is that a falling down? Like 649 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: Eli Manning and pay Manning give themselves up when a 650 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: defense win, I'm gonna take the sack and I'm gonna 651 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: get out of it. Is it throwing it out of bounds? 652 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: Is it being quicker in terms of my release? In 653 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: terms of getting it out, finding and knowing where all 654 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: the hots inside adjustments are. He has to be able 655 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: to combat the pressure that he's obviously going to face. 656 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: But he's a real one. He's a good player. Yeah. 657 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: I think he's been outstanding. And to me, you look 658 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: at his vision, that's his superpower being will see the 659 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: whole field. Um. They have done a good bit of 660 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: the things he did at LSU, but also had some 661 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: new concepts in there as well. And I think he's 662 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: seen the field very well. I know when talking to 663 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: defensive coaches that have played against him, they rave about 664 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: him just in terms of his ability to figure out 665 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: what they're doing and to be able to attack them. 666 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: A lot of times young rookie quarterbacks are playing defensively. Um, 667 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: they said, this kid is not his kid? Was he 668 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: finding voids and attacking against us? Um? And I think 669 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: that shows up on the tape. This is a confident 670 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: kid who uh, who stepped right into a difficult assignment 671 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: there in Cincinnati, And while the winds haven't all piled up, 672 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: he's had them very competitive each and every week. And 673 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: I just hope everything comes back fine with the knee 674 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: and get a long rehab here. Uh, take your time, 675 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: don't rush it. If he has to miss a couple 676 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: of games next year at the start, that's no big deal. 677 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: UH think long term here. But you're right the draft, Uh, 678 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: you better, you better go draft free agency. You better 679 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: get this kids some help up front. Yeah, I think 680 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: it has to be a priority. You have to make 681 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: sure that, um, you protect him because he's the future. 682 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: You want to make sure that he is going to 683 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: be there for a long time. He's gonna be able 684 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: to play at the level that we saw him. Just 685 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: give us a taste of uh this season. All right, 686 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: let's get to the next one that was picked there, 687 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: because the next quarterback to the Dolphins was to a 688 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: talk about law weird situation. We talked about it on 689 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: on Monday's Takeaway Pod. The decision there to to pull 690 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: him in that game, that was me and rhet yelling 691 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: at each other. You didn't even get a chance to 692 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: weigh in on that due to time constraints, Buck, So 693 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: give me your thoughts on that one. Oh, I mean 694 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: I I just felt like it was um you know, 695 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: I I go back and forth, right, I've done on 696 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: a few different mediums, like was he right to pull 697 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: it or whatever? I just think DJ part of what 698 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: it is. We've talked about this on the previous podcast 699 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: with Justin Fields. I mean, I want to see how 700 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: God does win. It's bad like we're talking about a 701 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: two score game. We're not talking thirty points down. The 702 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: great quarterbacks can pull victories from the jaws to defeat 703 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: because they're able to get hot at a moment's notice, 704 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: and even when they don't have their a game, they 705 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: find a way to get it done. They didn't give 706 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: him an opportunity to show that he had that ability. 707 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: And so what I worry about out and not thinking 708 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: that he or any other quarterback is fragile. But from 709 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: a coaching standpoint, the fact that you had that in 710 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: the back of your mind, to me, it just leads 711 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: me to believe that there's something about two that you 712 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: didn't fully believe in. And because d J that's not 713 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: something that you just owned game to say you know what, Hey, 714 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: you know what, let's take him out Like that's something 715 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 1: that there was something that made you feel uncomfortable about 716 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: two A ton about law, I will say this and 717 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: writing about two or prior to this game, one thing 718 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: that has stood out to me. In the three games 719 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: that he had won, teams hadn't challenged him. They hadn't 720 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: challenged him with pressure. They had been sitting back in 721 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: zones and he had been picking them apart. His completion 722 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: rate against zone coverage or lack of pressures, like the 723 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: ball was getting out really quickly. However, the stats before 724 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: this game, when people were able to pressure him, the 725 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: completion rate went down. And I think what we saw 726 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: Vic Fangio and the Denver Broncos douted up and to it. 727 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: Didn't have an answer. And so the challenge for him 728 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: going forward. Man, when you put this bad stuff on tape, 729 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: you can best believe that everyone is going to bring 730 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 1: pressure at the Dolphins. How is the young quarterback going 731 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 1: to handle it better? Yet? What is chain Gaily going 732 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: to equip to a with from a tool standpoint to 733 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: be able to hand handle the pressure. That is inevitably 734 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: coming from opponents down the line. Yeah, and they had. 735 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I just go back a little bit too 736 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: what I said. There was a lot of issues there 737 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: with that, with that offense, um, not just to A 738 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: And again, I don't want rehash all the stuff we 739 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: said on Monday, but I just think the other thing, 740 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: maybe maybe he's got an injury that we don't know about. 741 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 1: A lot of times there's information that doesn't get out, 742 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: and they could be trying to protect him a little 743 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: bit from himself. Maybe that's that to me would be 744 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: I could get on board with that's the thing. Okay, 745 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: So okay, So so here's the thing, right, So so 746 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: DJ understand it's having worked in front offices, right, because 747 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: you also know part of your job as someone that 748 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: works in front office with you the head coach, you know, 749 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: inevitably I'm gonna have to deal with the media, and 750 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: the media can create a bit of a storm over 751 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: how we handle this thing. Why not go out and say, hey, 752 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 1: young guy was dealing with something, uh and injury coming 753 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: into the game or whatever. And I know they didn't 754 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: want to get in trouble for the league, But what 755 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: happens is that changes the conversation that now is being had, 756 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: that that's being heard out in the outside world because 757 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, he was injured, that's why they pulled 758 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: him out. And when you pull him out and you 759 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: don't disclose that there's something that may have been bothering him. Well, 760 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: now I'm looking at you, like, well, what's really going on? 761 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: Like why now? Like so what Ryan Fitzpatrick is the closer, 762 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: Like we're we're hey, we're we're bringing him in in 763 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: the in the eighth the eighth inning to finish the game. 764 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense. I just think you create you 765 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: open up a different kind of worrds when when you 766 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: have a when you had that that decision play out 767 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: like you played out and they and they everybody says, 768 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: we don't we don't pay attention to the outside noise, 769 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: we don't trust me. It gets in there. And when 770 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: you see, like on ESPN with Mike Greenberg is doing 771 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: a whole segment about how how the Dolphins screwed up 772 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: by not taking Justin Herbert because they this is this 773 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: is the kind of stuff you invite when you do 774 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: stuff like this. I mean, it's just I don't like it. 775 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: Man more questions to bring more questions. Not only do 776 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: you have to answer it as a hate coach, but 777 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: then I guess what it goes to all the players, 778 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: who's the quarterback, who's the guy like tell us off 779 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: the ricket, like, who's really? Yeah, so much stuff, a 780 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: lot of noise. I don't I don't like it, um, 781 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: but I am still bullish on two of going forward. 782 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: I think he missed him. He missed some throws that 783 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,959 Speaker 1: he normally doesn't miss, that he missed in that game. 784 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 1: I thought he's you know, I thought he took some sacks, 785 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: a couple of more, just clean beats up front. He 786 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: didn't have any any opportunity to try and get out 787 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: of there with those. But other times I thought the 788 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: picture was a little muddy. He held the ball. I'd 789 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: much rather have a guy hold the ball when it'smuddey 790 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: as opposed to throw and picks all over the place, 791 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: which she didn't do. So and he just missed. He 792 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: had some guys open, he missed some throws. That's what happens, 793 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: happens to anybody, and and and that's what you're trying 794 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: to do, um, you know, and I know we're in 795 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 1: the microwave age when it comes to quarterbacks. But that's 796 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: what you do. You're trying to quicken their clock. That 797 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: is why defensive coordinated used to feast on young quarterbacks 798 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: because you can throw different looks and pre snap disguises 799 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: and pressures that they hadn't seen and really messed him up. 800 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: And so we saw that. So the big thing will 801 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: be how does he bounce back this week? How did 802 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: the Dolphins in general bounce back this week in terms 803 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: of the way that they use him and build a 804 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: game playing around all right, let's go to Uh, the 805 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: guy who's been the best of the bunch. He's gonna 806 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 1: be the rookie of the year. I think that's already 807 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: pretty much locked up. That was the sixth ough Ball 808 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: pick in Herbert fantastic man. He's a fantastic player. Um Uh, 809 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: I like him a lot when he's coming out of college. 810 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: I liked him a lot after the last two games 811 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,439 Speaker 1: of the year, more of the packt we have title game, 812 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: and then UH sent him in the Rose Bowl because 813 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: he used his athleticism and we felt like he was 814 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: finally unleashed. Having had the opportunity to talk to him, 815 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: You and I both talked to him. Uh, look, he 816 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 1: was quiet, but I thought he was smart. I thought 817 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: he was dialed in. Having done the three sixty on him. 818 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: When we were able to talk to his coaches and 819 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: they were able to kind of shed light on the 820 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 1: competitive that he is and how he was really a 821 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: are studied athlete in high school, there's a lot to like. 822 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: I think the thing that is worked with him. Um, 823 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: the coaches have been able to challenge him to be 824 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: more aggressive than he was in college, and normally it 825 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: works in reverse DJ. Normally you get a guy that's 826 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: coming from college, you have to get him to dial 827 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: it back a little bit to avoid the turnovers. They 828 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: actually turned to crank no, no no, no, crank it up. 829 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: Let's let's make these throlls. Let's take these shots. And 830 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: he's been good because he's been aggressive. His anticipation, timing 831 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: and all that stuff is outstanding. And I think maybe 832 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,760 Speaker 1: I even underrated, under underrated his arm. His arm talent 833 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: was a little different than I thought. Man, he has 834 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: a big arm, and I don't know if we always 835 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: saw that Oregon, but he's big time talent. Man, he's 836 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: a big time talent. I mean, I don't know how 837 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: to say it. Yeah, and I can laugh a little 838 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: bit because people like, how did everybody screw this one up? 839 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: You know, how was he not the you know, the 840 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 1: first quarterback picked? Um? And I'm sitting here going, guys, 841 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: this is what we're seeing now is is phenomenal. And 842 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: I'm so happy for him. He's such a great kid 843 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: and he's playing out of his mind. He's gonna have 844 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: a long, an outstanding career based on everything we've seen. 845 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: We did not see this guy at Oregon, the guy 846 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: that we're seeing right now. He was. That's not the 847 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: same guy. People said, how did you miss that? Well, 848 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: it was he was a different player. He was playing 849 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 1: a little bit you know, you use the word kind 850 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: of conservative or just kind of being careful. Um, that's 851 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: kind of how they they managed him there. And now 852 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: he's been set free. It's like watching somebody that's been 853 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: an animal that's been living in captivity. Now you just 854 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: kind of set him free and he's out there checking 855 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: everything out and playing the foot loose and fancy free 856 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: and attacking. Um. So the skills were there, the size 857 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: of the arm strength, athleticism, the traits were there that 858 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: the intelligence, the toughness, all that was there, and so 859 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 1: now what we're seeing is the mentality change to go 860 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: along with the ability. So when you combine the mentality 861 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: with the ability, that's what we get what we're seeing 862 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: here from Justin Herbert. Absolutely, he's more aggressive. They even 863 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: enabled him. And also DJ, you've seen it right there, 864 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: and uh, he flashes every week like you respect the 865 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: high end quarterback to flash like my top six quarterback. Um, 866 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,919 Speaker 1: he should flash every week. He should show you each 867 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: week once or twice in Okay. Yeah, that's why he's 868 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: a top ten pick. Um. And you have to give 869 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: him an opportunity to play through his mistakes, which they've 870 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: been able to do because he's had some agree just 871 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,439 Speaker 1: turn over someones. You're like, that's not the best throw 872 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: or whatever. But he's worth through it. And I think 873 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: the thing that you like about him, they've lost a 874 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: ton of close games, but I feel like his grit, 875 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: his toughness, his resiliency. I never feel like he wavers. 876 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 1: And so if I'm in the building with the charges, 877 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: I feel great about my quarterback. And now, um, I 878 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: think I saw your tweet about how to just spin 879 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: it forward for him. Yeah, if they can get and 880 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:51,240 Speaker 1: a level running back. I mean, I mean like a dude, 881 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: and I think you said one other thing. One of 882 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: the things. One man they've got they've got. I mean 883 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: when they get Eckler back. I think Eckler is like 884 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: a top tennis back. He has been out, he's been that, 885 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: so what's been crazy? He's been doing all this without Eckler, 886 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: who's a really good versatile player. I mean, think about 887 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: easy completions. You got easy completion with him anytime you want. 888 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: But I'm looking at it going and thinking to address 889 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: the offensive line, which still needs to get better, and 890 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: the secondary. Those are kind of the two big areas. 891 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: And I'll be curious to see, you know, the nice 892 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: thing having the quarterback on the rookie deal, Hunter Henry. 893 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: They franchised him this year and his numbers aren't huge, 894 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: but man, buck, anytime you want it, you know you 895 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: can get it right that that there's value and a 896 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: player like that, he's gonna just just gonna uncover catch 897 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: everything you throw to him. Got keenan Allen, he's paid, 898 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: he's taken care of. Mike Williams. That that price taxt 899 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: come and do here pretty soon. But Hunter Henry be 900 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 1: interesting because they franchised him once. I think it was 901 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: uh yeah, so I think I'm pretty sure. To have 902 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: to look it up, but I believe it would be 903 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: a little over twelve million next year to franchise him again. Um, 904 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if they can't get a 905 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 1: deal done with him. Just franchise him again, bring him 906 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: back and that and keep that nucleus around him, because 907 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: this group really could be together with Eckler, and you 908 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: can add a bigger back to Clement Eckler. This group 909 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: is going to be together for a while around him. Yeah, 910 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: and they get a chance to grow together. And so 911 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 1: with that in mind, Dennis, Okay, how can we fix 912 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,439 Speaker 1: the defense? Because we've got a small window to get 913 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,280 Speaker 1: this defense right, and so, um, I gotta get some corners. Man, 914 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: they're long in the tooth in the back end. They're 915 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: long in the tooth in the back end, and so 916 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: they need to get better. Casey Haywarld just kind of 917 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 1: come back to the pack. Chris Harris Junior has been 918 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: has been heard, and I mean, look at this stage 919 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: of his career, you just want, you want more, and 920 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: so they have to do that, especially if they're gonna 921 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: continue down this road to playing the defense that they're playing. 922 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: They have to get playmakers, Um that can take the 923 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: ball away on the outside. And so I do want 924 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 1: to say this because I know him very well. Haven't 925 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, covered their games the last three years. But um, 926 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 1: there's been some talk about on the internet or whatever 927 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 1: about Tom Tolesco, you know, and people questioning whether he's 928 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: in jeopardy. That's crazy. That is crazy to me. Look 929 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 1: at the talent on this roster, Go and go talk 930 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: to people around the league about how highly guard at 931 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: Tom Tolesko is for the job he's done building this team. 932 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,280 Speaker 1: He found the quarterback, he's got the home run quarterback. Um, 933 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: he's got you know, you get Derwin James back, Drew Trank, 934 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 1: will back. I think this defense, Um, we'll turn around 935 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: and he's and he's you know, people say, oh, the 936 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 1: offensive line. I say it to the offense line needs 937 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: to get better. That needs to be the focus. But 938 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: it's not like he hasn't devoted resources. He just he 939 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 1: hadn't hit home runs. You know, when you when you 940 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: go out there and you you know, like you take 941 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 1: forced lamp earlier there in the first three rounds. Take 942 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 1: Dan Feenie, those guys have been okay, I have been 943 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: great players. Um, but it's not like they just aren't 944 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: picking guys. Now, you know, you know as you do 945 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: DJ like now we've seen it. I think you kind 946 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: of hit me to this. You double down on it. 947 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: So now what you do is all right. You know, 948 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: we're gonna fix it. We're gonna throw draft picks and 949 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: free agens at it, and we're gonna make sure that 950 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 1: we have enough in the building to get it right. 951 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: One way or the other, we're gonna get it right. 952 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 1: So if we have to spend a little more in 953 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: free agency, we're gonna make sure that we have enough 954 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 1: guys in the building that we feel like we can 955 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: put the best five on the field to protect the king. 956 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: And so, um, it's one of those things that they 957 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: have to be able to do. But yeah, this is 958 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: a window and they have four years left before it 959 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,399 Speaker 1: becomes really pricey on the quarterback. So let's build. Let's 960 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,839 Speaker 1: build it right and make the right decisions or whatever. 961 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: And so I do think that you have to separate 962 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: things that are front office driven versus things that are 963 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 1: coach driven. Front officers go and acquired the talent, they 964 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 1: do that stuff coaches have developed whatever, but they really 965 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: play a huge role in the schematics and the tactics 966 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: and those things. And so I think time to let's 967 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: go should be good because the one thing that we know, 968 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: you found found a quarterback that buys you time. And 969 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: by the time when you get the quarterback, I mean, 970 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: the creat I know what the record is, Buck, but 971 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here going You've got a top five edge dresser, 972 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 1: probably top two or three in my opinion, and Joey Bosta, 973 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: who's a dominant player. Drwin's gotta stay healthy, that's an issue. 974 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,280 Speaker 1: But if he stays healthy, you've got a top three safety, 975 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen's the top three to four wide receiver. You know, 976 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,439 Speaker 1: Hunter Henry is the top eight or nine tight end. 977 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: Ekeler's top ten back. Um. I mean, they've got a 978 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of premier players on this on 979 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: this roster. It's a lot easier when the quarterbacks. One 980 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: of the I would say, if you're gonna have an 981 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: open draft and draft for the future of the quarterback, 982 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: where we won the first five picks, Yeah, yeah, I mean, 983 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: I think I think, I think I think it's easy. 984 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,919 Speaker 1: I think I think the pieces of there. You want 985 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: to make sure you continue to build this the right way, UM, 986 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 1: and then they just have to figure out a way, 987 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: Like from an organizational standpoint, if you got a way 988 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: to win these close games, Yes, that's what it comes 989 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: down to. If they um can win half of the 990 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: ones that they've dropped at a one score games. I mean, 991 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about this team in a different context, no doubt. 992 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,399 Speaker 1: All right, Well, this has been a fun discussion here, 993 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 1: fun podcast again. Thanks to Trent Dilfer for for joining 994 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: Buck today. That was fun to listen to. 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