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Speaker 1: week as Thursday Night football just one week away. How
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Speaker 1: sounds like football, real football is coming back. And we've
Speaker 1: gone through preseason, so no more prognosticatie and all of
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Speaker 1: football to talk about. Pete, Is there a better week
Speaker 1: than what we're about to be in store for? No
Speaker 1: college on Saturday? More college games can stay Stafford and
Speaker 1: Att Yeah, bring it, bring it. I've been September ninth.
Speaker 1: We can stop the prognosticating. As you said, that's great
Speaker 1: words you guys keep throwing out there. It's fancy word syllables.
Speaker 1: A lot of syllables, yea, and too many for me.
Speaker 1: The best part about it is that it doesn't stop
Speaker 1: after this week either. I mean it is all the
Speaker 1: way through the fall. I mean the time of football
Speaker 1: not being on your television is over. I mean, it
Speaker 1: is football season, and it is so good. That's nothing
Speaker 1: better to be back. It really is. Yeah, especially in
Speaker 1: Texas with high school football college from I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I try to. I try to get by with like
Speaker 1: horse racing in the summertime on TV. I don't have
Speaker 1: to Why does that work? How does that work? Does
Speaker 1: that get you through? Is that a fix? Does it
Speaker 1: a little bit? A little bit? Yeah? Like you anything
Speaker 1: going on? Yeah? Or not even pick just watch just
Speaker 1: watch the best too? Baby? Is there not other things
Speaker 1: on that you could try and patch your time with?
Speaker 1: Name something baseball ball? Yeah? Okay, not really. Why can't
Speaker 1: Why can't the NBA stand their season all the way
Speaker 1: up until it's like, come on like August and let
Speaker 1: us have at least so it's not so much of
Speaker 1: a I feel like we just get thrown off the
Speaker 1: cliff after the NBA Finals and we have nothing, and
Speaker 1: I'm in purgatory like till now not more. He makes
Speaker 1: this moment so sweet? Is having football back. We're gonna
Speaker 1: preview the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Cowboys Thursday night football.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a look at that Tampa Bay offense,
Speaker 1: which includes a certain farm animal that you would like
Speaker 1: to look at. It's called a goat at quarterbacks. Wondering
Speaker 1: where you were going with that ball. I thought you
Speaker 1: would at least I pick that up, but it did not.
Speaker 1: It didn't land. It's okay? Is that today? Or we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk a little offense, little offense. Now, we do
Speaker 1: have some news out of Mike McCarthy's press conference that
Speaker 1: we need to get to a bunch of roster shifting
Speaker 1: going on, and there is a new backup quarterback in
Speaker 1: town as well. We'll talk about the addition there, but
Speaker 1: rob good news. Let's start with that. There are a
Speaker 1: couple of players coming off of COVID protocol today, three
Speaker 1: players actually, Demante Kasey, Ceedee Lamb, and Carlos Walking. So
Speaker 1: they've still got two guys on COVID list. That would
Speaker 1: be Connor Williams, you're starting left guard, slash backup center,
Speaker 1: and Noel Brown backup wide receiver. So and I talked
Speaker 1: about all this. I gave everybody tired head about all
Speaker 1: these roster moves they had to make over the next
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. They just put six guys on IR
Speaker 1: to return, Josh Ball, Malik Turner, Neville Gallimore, Sean mccun
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph, and Francis Bernard. So a lot of moving
Speaker 1: and shaking right now. That's the biggest name that stood
Speaker 1: out was the one you kind of put some emphasis
Speaker 1: on there was Kelvin Joseph. Of course he left the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville game with a left growing and we didn't know
Speaker 1: what the extent of it was. What is that timetable
Speaker 1: looking like for him? And if McCarthy even addressed that,
Speaker 1: the earliest we'll see him as Week four because of
Speaker 1: the rules, So he might very well be ready to
Speaker 1: go by then. But that's unfortunate because I mean, heck,
Speaker 1: we spent a segment on it last show about how
Speaker 1: you want to see him, and he was pushing for
Speaker 1: playing time, but it's it's gonna be Anthony Brown and
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis and the other guys early on with Treyvon,
Speaker 1: I like, how you guys all looking at me right now?
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. Oh, I mean I did. I did,
Speaker 1: and absolutely I didn't. That's a nightmare type scenario to
Speaker 1: see Kelvin Joseph start off on injured reserve, But he
Speaker 1: does have the ability to come back, so I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to that. But also McEwan, I think him being
Speaker 1: on IR is also kind of damning to the tight
Speaker 1: end position because of the stripes that he was making
Speaker 1: in preseason and a big time special teams contributor, So
Speaker 1: all things being you know, equal, I think both of
Speaker 1: those names should be kind of put in the same
Speaker 1: And also to hear you say Connor Williams is not
Speaker 1: that gives me pause too, Yeah, because he's got a
Speaker 1: little bit of ways to go if he has to
Speaker 1: make it. Now, you still have another week, which is good, Isaiah.
Speaker 1: How big of a loss? I want to talk about
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph in the secondary here because we there was
Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts in that position group overall,
Speaker 1: I mean, and it was a topic of a conversation
Speaker 1: on this show saying that how are you going to
Speaker 1: fit all these guys on a roster? Now? It takes
Speaker 1: away a position or a guy that you might have
Speaker 1: had to get rid of or had to maybe maneuver,
Speaker 1: but it also limits your options. How big of a
Speaker 1: loss is Kelvin Joseph. I don't think any of us
Speaker 1: really know how big of a loss Kelvin Joseph is. Honestly,
Speaker 1: we haven't seen him versus top tier competition, yet everybody
Speaker 1: that his face has pretty much been a second second
Speaker 1: tier type guy. Not to say there's anything wrong with that,
Speaker 1: they're just not the starters in the NFL. So we
Speaker 1: really don't know the severity of that. But you know,
Speaker 1: in terms of the versatility this one Israel mcquomwell, he
Speaker 1: really gets an extended evaluation process now, right, you know
Speaker 1: as a four game preseason. Now he has the first
Speaker 1: four games to really show that he deserves a spot
Speaker 1: on his roster because there's gonna be some moving around
Speaker 1: as these guys come off with IR. So it sucks that,
Speaker 1: you know, Kelvin Joseph is gone because he doesn't have
Speaker 1: that experience and shit to be utilized. But he might
Speaker 1: have he might be saying he's saying his prayers, also
Speaker 1: saying thank you that he does have to face some
Speaker 1: of these guys in week one. Is this where a
Speaker 1: position black guy like Israel mcquamu can come in and
Speaker 1: it shows the value there because he could be your
Speaker 1: backup slot corner. Now yeah, I think. I mean as
Speaker 1: soon as you guys listed the rosterum and some of
Speaker 1: these moves that are on IR and going into the season,
Speaker 1: there's two names that popped out to me. Kelvin Joseph.
Speaker 1: You know, what impact is he going to have? He
Speaker 1: hasn't now elongated evaluation process. Now, he wasn't going to
Speaker 1: be cut from the team, but in terms of how
Speaker 1: how much, how how productive he can be, how he
Speaker 1: can have an impact on his defense. I think they
Speaker 1: will have a longer time to really evaluate that now
Speaker 1: and see where is he where's he had needed most
Speaker 1: on this team. M they'll be able to evaluate that.
Speaker 1: I mean, then you also sort of in retrospect, that
Speaker 1: affects Israel mcquamo, right, Israel mcquama now has opportunity to
Speaker 1: get reps that he probably wouldn't have got in the
Speaker 1: actual game. He would have been possibly on the roster.
Speaker 1: But now now he's going to be in the game
Speaker 1: in some form or fashion. I'm in the other name
Speaker 1: is semi vooko. Semi. Now, with Malik Turner going to IR,
Speaker 1: he hasn't an elongated evaluation process. They're going to throw
Speaker 1: him in there, whether it's week one or not. In
Speaker 1: these first four weeks, you will see him active on
Speaker 1: a roster because they want to see, Okay, we didn't
Speaker 1: see enough out of you. Now show us what you have,
Speaker 1: and he may or may not be around. Those guys
Speaker 1: may or may not be around after week four. Rob
Speaker 1: what does this say about Neville Gallimore specifically? I mean
Speaker 1: the fact that he will not be able to return
Speaker 1: until week four as well, there was a slimmer of hope,
Speaker 1: not a lot that he might be able to return
Speaker 1: that first month of the season. Can we expect him
Speaker 1: maybe to be around fifth, sixth week of the year.
Speaker 1: It's probably six to eight, so i'd say minimum six.
Speaker 1: So I think he would be pushing it to have
Speaker 1: him ready by week four, but sometime after that, you know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I have not gotten an update on that, but
Speaker 1: I think October might be the optimistic look there. We'll see.
Speaker 1: But in the time, Cowboys are going to have basically
Speaker 1: two starters on defense as rookies draft picks. You got
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons and you got Osa in there week one
Speaker 1: Thursday night. I would you know, even if he's not
Speaker 1: a starter, he's gonna play a lot, and I think
Speaker 1: he's earned that playing time. Really love what Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: said about him taking advantage of his opportunities. We know
Speaker 1: the huge void that Nevi Gallimore we believe is going
Speaker 1: to leave in this defense, but I think a lot
Speaker 1: of us are really comfortable with the production that we've
Speaker 1: seen from Carlos Watkins and Osagza A Diggi Zua, and
Speaker 1: so I think both of those guys can combine can
Speaker 1: make a difference for this defensive line. I think that's
Speaker 1: the biggest part of everything going into Tampa. That's going
Speaker 1: to make the difference our defensive line versus their offensive
Speaker 1: line and how that goes because it's gonna set the
Speaker 1: tempo for the game. No matter what. The Cowboys have
Speaker 1: to be first and foremost prioritizing stopping the run and
Speaker 1: everything else can take care of itself, and I think
Speaker 1: the defensive line and what they do can kind of
Speaker 1: band aid some of those things that we're thinking about
Speaker 1: with this secondary. No matter what, no matter how you
Speaker 1: look at it, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: will be there. So when you talk about Israel Mukuamo
Speaker 1: in the slot, he will typically be matched up man
Speaker 1: to man on ab So that's gonna be a tall
Speaker 1: task for anybody, let alone a rookie. But you know,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna get your lumps, you know, just know
Speaker 1: they're out there waiting Niche waiting on you in Raymond
Speaker 1: James and Mukuamo is not gonna be the go to
Speaker 1: backup slid Man. It'll be Kennedy and it'll be Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 1: Those guys will play the majority in the slot. But
Speaker 1: now if you wanted to throw him in the rotation,
Speaker 1: you could at least he's in that conversation since there
Speaker 1: is not another corner like Kelvin Joseph available. Kind of
Speaker 1: going along the same lines that you you just said
Speaker 1: about Neville Gallimore and you said the void that we
Speaker 1: believe that he'll leave, And I know that that's kind
Speaker 1: of confusing. It's a lot of words, but that's a
Speaker 1: great point because none of these guys are set in
Speaker 1: stone contributors yet. The guys that are going on IR
Speaker 1: and we're talking about Gallimore, Joseph Turner, McCune, ball, these
Speaker 1: are all guys that are developing into roles that you
Speaker 1: want them to cover, which is a positive thing. The
Speaker 1: fact that one they are developing in two, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna lose some guys, you're not losing Randy Gregory's, you're
Speaker 1: not losing Ceedee Lambs, and you're not losing Connor Williams
Speaker 1: and guys like that along the way. But how much
Speaker 1: can this stunt the growth of guys like this in
Speaker 1: the first four weeks of the season, whenever they're out
Speaker 1: early in the year where they're trying to establish a role.
Speaker 1: I think it's tough. Man. I'm thinking back to DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence's rookie season in fourteen, and I want to say
Speaker 1: he broke his foot or something and he was out
Speaker 1: for most Now that was most of the regular season,
Speaker 1: but you know, to not be part of training camp
Speaker 1: in preseason like a you know, here's another example, Chauncey
Speaker 1: Golston passes his physical. He's not on pup. That's great news,
Speaker 1: but like Mike McCarthy said, it's going to take him
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks to kind of get back into practice.
Speaker 1: And so then it's like, you know, you miss all
Speaker 1: that time. And Isaiah speak to this like how ready
Speaker 1: can you be to contribute just jumping in the regular season.
Speaker 1: And at least Calvin Joseph had all of preseason for
Speaker 1: the most part. But it's hard. It's hard for rookie
Speaker 1: without reps to just you know, be counted on and
Speaker 1: be ready for that opportunity right away. Yeah, his first
Speaker 1: opportunities will come into former special teams because you can't
Speaker 1: afford the mishaps and the mistakes, even though you know
Speaker 1: they're gonna happen. The coach isn't gonna put you in
Speaker 1: a situation, and you know he's not gonna put you
Speaker 1: in a situation to fail. So if they don't, if
Speaker 1: they have question marks about it in a regular season,
Speaker 1: you can't. They just rather either throw you on special
Speaker 1: teams and wait until you make some plays there and
Speaker 1: then they'll kind of transition you because now you're more
Speaker 1: adapt thing you're used to the speed at a game
Speaker 1: you kind of adjusted to. Never regard or if they
Speaker 1: have question marks about that, you just will be inactive.
Speaker 1: It's just really that simple. We saw the last year
Speaker 1: with with Robinson. You know, he probably made some plays
Speaker 1: in practice, but they probably just questioned his ability to play,
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, well we can't afford you to
Speaker 1: make a mistake in the game, so you just we
Speaker 1: just won't suit up. Josh Ball is another example. I
Speaker 1: mean that that's looking like a you're for him, You're
Speaker 1: thinking he might be the swing tackle as a rookie.
Speaker 1: That's just probably not gonna happen. Gallimore at least had
Speaker 1: a bunch of starts last year, and when he gets back,
Speaker 1: you think maybe he can hit the ground running and
Speaker 1: jump back in. But for guys that haven't played that's tough. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's experience that you're relying on when when you talk
Speaker 1: about Neville Gallimore. But I love what Mike McCarthy said
Speaker 1: about the seventy seven players that he had available and
Speaker 1: then giving reference to when he was in Green Bay
Speaker 1: that it took seventy seven players to win a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl and these rookies seven. Yeah. Yeah, I have a
Speaker 1: numbers guy. So when you talk about your rookies and
Speaker 1: what you said, Isaiah, I trust that. I believe that
Speaker 1: because you're right, they're not gonna dan Quinn isn't gonna
Speaker 1: set these guys up to fail, and he's surely not
Speaker 1: gonna set these guys up to get completely devastated on
Speaker 1: his watch. He has enough veteran leadership right now. If
Speaker 1: that's the case, if that's how he's feeling about these guys,
Speaker 1: then he'll put them out there. But the defensive line
Speaker 1: is the number one focus for me right now, because
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the thing that can change this
Speaker 1: whole thing around a defense and offense, because if we're
Speaker 1: not back to where we were on the offensive line,
Speaker 1: we can forget about Zeke running and all of that
Speaker 1: stuff too. But still on the defensive side. With Neville
Speaker 1: Gallimore's absence, I think Diggi Zola has shown you he's splashed,
Speaker 1: He's done a lot of things. Carlos Watkins and his
Speaker 1: energy in urban these guys are showing you that they
Speaker 1: are going to be bringing it, and dan Quinn has
Speaker 1: changed the culture on that defensive line in that way.
Speaker 1: I think osa Diggy Zoola is going to have a
Speaker 1: better rookie year than Neville Gallimore did, and it's because
Speaker 1: of the off season that he had. I think they're
Speaker 1: very similar players. I think Gallimore probably as a prospect
Speaker 1: I liked better outcoming out of Oklahoma. But I think
Speaker 1: in terms of rookie season production, I think he's going
Speaker 1: to be better than what gallimos a mouthful, which is nice.
Speaker 1: This is good to know. So our show's only going
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Speaker 1: Now done, Isaiah, You okay over there, you're kind of
Speaker 1: good men. I have some news. Before I came in here,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get over you. So you okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm straight. Okay, ye hit that grown man with it?
Speaker 1: All I did? I didn't. It kind of sounded tongue
Speaker 1: in cheek. It was not. That was legit. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was that was supposed to be actually concerned. Okay. So
Speaker 1: we do have a number change. The new number seven
Speaker 1: has now been de Nucci is not on the roster either.
Speaker 1: Neither is one hundred nice wander, nor is Hira Laho,
Speaker 1: who was here for a split second. He was seven.
Speaker 1: He was seven too. Now Treyvon Diggs has switched his
Speaker 1: jersey number. He is number seven, switches from twenty seven
Speaker 1: to seven. That was his collegiate number at Alabama. So
Speaker 1: this is the biggest news of the day. Nothing gets
Speaker 1: fans excited like jersey number change. It is apparently it's
Speaker 1: not the only one that's coming either. It's apparently there's
Speaker 1: more that are going to be barreling down that might
Speaker 1: have number seven. Yes, yes, yes, Okay, so that's where
Speaker 1: he's going. Yeah, So yeah, one jersey number change, and
Speaker 1: we do have a new backup quarterback. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: Will Greer coming up in just a second, but first
Speaker 1: let's take a call from our friend Anthony. Anthony from Florida.
Speaker 1: How's it going. You're on talking Cowboys? Hey, how y'all
Speaker 1: guys doing good? Hey? Heck well in my dude, cow
Speaker 1: y'all want to know, I'm a lawyer, lawyer hanging with
Speaker 1: the boys. Caller and Coler's my guy. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to tell them I started back with the calls. Has
Speaker 1: been over a year and a half, and I'm proud
Speaker 1: of him and all the accomplishments and all the things
Speaker 1: I see him doing Cowboys Network. So I'd like to say,
Speaker 1: I am lawyal to my boys and I will be
Speaker 1: calling them. But I was looking for an offset show
Speaker 1: and I listened to this short lot and I will
Speaker 1: tell mister Nate because he's gonna get on me and
Speaker 1: I'm lawyer. But you guys are number two. So Derek,
Speaker 1: don't even think the break is even number two. You're
Speaker 1: not even number two. This show is in my book
Speaker 1: one and a half actually, so I like you guys.
Speaker 1: I listened to you guys all the time. Man, you
Speaker 1: guys got good content. I'm gonna be a lawyer listener.
Speaker 1: And that's just it. Man. Cowboys, cowboys ark creating this
Speaker 1: competition among family. You know it's Anthony. Please tell everybody
Speaker 1: that we did not pay you to call and say
Speaker 1: what you just said. They noticed boy. They called me
Speaker 1: the real and real and hang with the boy. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for the for the compliment. What
Speaker 1: do you think about the Will Greer signing at quarterback?
Speaker 1: The explored the West Virginia guys. I'm gonna be honest, man,
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to down play anybody, because if
Speaker 1: you put on that star, I try to support you
Speaker 1: no matter what. But you know, anybody that replaces whatever
Speaker 1: they call him, the news because the dude was tarnishing
Speaker 1: the star man. And I'm sorry, Mike McCarthy. I don't
Speaker 1: know what kind of friendship and kinship you got, but
Speaker 1: to let that guy go out there and possibly mess
Speaker 1: up other guy's careers, you know what I'm saying, the
Speaker 1: other backup wire receivers and tightness because they couldn't get
Speaker 1: the ball. You know, I'll take anybody over that guy.
Speaker 1: So welcome Will and I hope you can fit in somewhere. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you very much for the calling for the compliment. Anthony.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again soon. And Anthony's happy that
Speaker 1: Trayvon Dix changes his numbers, changed it to seven. Uh. Now,
Speaker 1: Benda nuche got pulled back on the practice squad, right,
Speaker 1: he's still here, still in He's still in Dallas, so
Speaker 1: he'll be around. Uh. First off, I want to address
Speaker 1: something that he said. We are still number one, no
Speaker 1: matter what he says, we are not one, and b
Speaker 1: I guess we're one a overhanging with the boys. I mean,
Speaker 1: I agree with what he said about the break like this,
Speaker 1: this is gonna get muddy five, It's gonna get messy.
Speaker 1: Break might be do we have six podcasts? Six? I
Speaker 1: think we got like thirty. Okay, I just want to
Speaker 1: throw that documentaries on here. That's all I'm saying. That's true.
Speaker 1: It's true. Deep Blue dog, What are your deep blue
Speaker 1: come in? I like blue, like blue. I didn't make
Speaker 1: the squad and didn't make the deep Yeah, it took
Speaker 1: a little bit of time for Jesse Holly to make
Speaker 1: that either. Um, Jesse was a great story, has a
Speaker 1: really great wait till tonight premieres tonight. Yes, fantastic, And
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that Deep Blue as well. But
Speaker 1: will Greer before we have to go to break again
Speaker 1: here in a minute. Signed from the Carolina Waivers, he
Speaker 1: was with the Panthers for two seasons. Drafted in twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen in the third round, he was the one hundredth
Speaker 1: overall pick. And I mean, if you look down the
Speaker 1: list of the twenty nineteen drafted quarterbacks, fourth best, probably
Speaker 1: because it was a really poor draft class. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was probably the fourth best quarterback out of that
Speaker 1: draft class, behind Kyler, Murray, Gardner, Minshew. And there's another
Speaker 1: guy that I'm forgetting his name, but I mean there's
Speaker 1: not a whole lot of excitement around what he could
Speaker 1: be in Dallas. So Rob, I ask you specifically, as
Speaker 1: you are wearing some Carolina blue today, it is a Cowboys,
Speaker 1: It's for Jesse's debut today. Okay, there you go. That's good.
Speaker 1: What can will Greer be and what is he expected
Speaker 1: to come in and do? Is he going to challenge
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush for a backup spot or no, maybe eventually.
Speaker 1: But Mike McCarthy on on the press conference just detailed
Speaker 1: all the challenges of come in and trying to learn
Speaker 1: a new offense as you know, well, I mean the
Speaker 1: you know, the language, learning the protections, all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. So I don't think right off the bat.
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the biggest reasons Cooper Rush is
Speaker 1: in the position he's in is his familiarity with Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore's scheme and that's why they kept him largely as
Speaker 1: the number two guy over Garrett Gilbert. So again, though,
Speaker 1: you know, it helps to have connections in this league,
Speaker 1: just like any line of work. So he will Greer
Speaker 1: played under Doug nuss Meyer for two years. That helps,
Speaker 1: you know, Cooper Rush has been in Kelly Moore's system
Speaker 1: for a few years. That helps Mike McCarthy sees something
Speaker 1: clearly in Ben da Nucci that helps to keep him
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Brian broad Us always says, you
Speaker 1: gotta have a sponsor in life, you know, And I
Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't know if if Garrett Gilbert
Speaker 1: had like a sponsor, like a guy really backing him
Speaker 1: in this deal. And I wonder, you know, if he's
Speaker 1: a little surprised that he's the odd man out here
Speaker 1: at the end of this thing, not even on the
Speaker 1: practice squad. Yeah, he's not the odd man out though.
Speaker 1: I mean he went to me and yeah he landed.
Speaker 1: But I just I mean, like he knowed it. August twentieth,
Speaker 1: twenty first, do you think he really felt like, No, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna have it. He had bottled this thing. No,
Speaker 1: he had every I mean, this is what happened with him.
Speaker 1: He had every opportunity to lose that job. And I
Speaker 1: think that you know, when you when you're in a
Speaker 1: position like that where coaches are supporting you, giving you
Speaker 1: every opportunity, I mean above and beyond what you probably
Speaker 1: should be given, and you and you find a way
Speaker 1: to mess it up as soon as somebody else behind
Speaker 1: you does something positive, they're getting to go ahead because
Speaker 1: I mean they're pretty much saying, look, bro, I did
Speaker 1: everything I could for you, Like I put you on
Speaker 1: a pedestal, and you fumble the ro You fumble the rock,
Speaker 1: uh figuratively, So um, that's on him. You know, likely
Speaker 1: he landed in New England, so I think he'll be okay.
Speaker 1: You know, had some good leadership out there. Um. But
Speaker 1: in terms of this this pick up here, I it's
Speaker 1: a head scratcher for me. I think everybody kind of
Speaker 1: knows where I was, where I was hoping to go,
Speaker 1: that that challenge was going to be handed to anybody
Speaker 1: who wants to come in here. In terms of trying
Speaker 1: to learn a new system, it sucks. Some are easier
Speaker 1: than others. I don't know how how how difficult it
Speaker 1: is to learn this system. I don't know the language.
Speaker 1: But I don't know what they see in him. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't seen enough of him to have
Speaker 1: a real opinion on that. I just felt like there
Speaker 1: was another gentleman that used to be in Carolina that
Speaker 1: I would have liked to go again. Personally, I almost
Speaker 1: in our text group, I almost texted mainly for heck,
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, Cowboys add former Carolina Panthers quarterback.
Speaker 1: I just guess for a second, I'm not gonna let
Speaker 1: y'all drag me into that because what I sounded like,
Speaker 1: I sounded like I was on the bully pool pit
Speaker 1: on Tuesday talking about camp. Because that's not That's not
Speaker 1: what I meant. Everybody has their own opinion exactly. That's
Speaker 1: what we do here. And the thing and the thing
Speaker 1: about Will Greer and I've got an opportunity to see
Speaker 1: because we're in Big twelve country. Seen him play in
Speaker 1: West Virginia. Don't know a lot about him from the
Speaker 1: Carolina perspective. When we talked about him last show, Kyle
Speaker 1: said he had inside stuff on him and it didn't
Speaker 1: look too good. He was he was the Neucie junior,
Speaker 1: so I would say he's the Nucci two points. But
Speaker 1: that's yeah, same year atage. All right, whatever, it's not.
Speaker 1: How do you want to put them together? I mean,
Speaker 1: my whole thing is the only reason why we're even
Speaker 1: talking about the backup quarterback is because of our experience
Speaker 1: from last year and because of Dak's injury. DA goes
Speaker 1: out to Raymond James, sadium doesn't show any residual effects
Speaker 1: from that injury. We are no longer talking about the
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. I'm not comfortable with talking about it. I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about it because I think that
Speaker 1: number four is the present and the future for what
Speaker 1: we're doing. And we got seventy five million reasons to
Speaker 1: support that. But right now we're talking about Will Greer,
Speaker 1: and we're still talking about Cooper Rush, and we're talking
Speaker 1: about Billing being the Nucci, being the saving grace if
Speaker 1: something happens and he's not it, are we well not
Speaker 1: saving grace, but he's your plan B or C. That
Speaker 1: they're keeping four quarterbacks in part because we're in this
Speaker 1: COVID world, you know, just to have numbers. And I
Speaker 1: and I said about Gilbert kind of jest. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys liked him, and he had a
Speaker 1: history with Kellen Moore. I wonder if they hadn't claimed
Speaker 1: Will Greer, if they weren't in the order we're gonna
Speaker 1: bring it back, baby, Gilbert would have been on the
Speaker 1: practice squad. And there's no way that I'm implying that
Speaker 1: Cam Newton doesn't have any football left. That Cam Newton
Speaker 1: has not been a dog and understand your reasons for
Speaker 1: not wanting to bring Cam on. I just don't agree
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Speaker 1: you helped me go through this difficult time with the pandemic.
Speaker 1: And I thank you, Philip, great Philip. That that is
Speaker 1: so that that's heartwarming, man, and thank you so much.
Speaker 1: We're saying that, man, and glad we can we can
Speaker 1: warm up, you know, give you some sunshine with everything
Speaker 1: that you're dealing with there in France. Man. But you know,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's get this on a positive note. As
Speaker 1: far as you know your Dallas Cowboys man, any questions
Speaker 1: that you have questions, I have just one more thing
Speaker 1: to say, Yes, sir, I'm bratty must tell because will
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Speaker 1: what your chest? Philip? I like that, man, Go Cowboys man.
Speaker 1: I hope your team win, Philip. Man, that is awesome.
Speaker 1: That is thought. We got fans all over the world. Man,
Speaker 1: that is amazing. I'm taking that's the one thing about
Speaker 1: being a part of this organization that never surprised me
Speaker 1: where three Cowboy fans are from. But guys, just getting
Speaker 1: to some football you want, that's my boyfrili like the
Speaker 1: match up, the matchup itself, Guys, you have to be
Speaker 1: thinking about this. It's gotta be giving you some sleepless nights.
Speaker 1: And you know you're gonna have a lot of headliners
Speaker 1: to write pee and one of them is going can
Speaker 1: be either Tom Brady unleashes his full arsenal on the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are wholly outmatched? Are the Cowboys? Surprise the league?
Speaker 1: Which which title do you think you're going to be writing?
Speaker 1: Does it say? What's chess? Wait? Right there, We're right there,
Speaker 1: We're close. Give me something. I'm not there yet. I'm
Speaker 1: not there yet, but I will say this is uh
Speaker 1: on paper. This is as good of a challenge as
Speaker 1: you can imagine, like in terms of a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: champ that is returning everybody essentially like does that happen
Speaker 1: in the salary cap era? I don't know that that
Speaker 1: that presents a lot of hype in itself, and so
Speaker 1: that's an opportunity for the Cowboys, who you know, kind
Speaker 1: of sliding under the radar here saying, oh, they haven't
Speaker 1: had the chemistry. They haven't had Dak on the field
Speaker 1: with some of his guys. Ceedee, lamb, all those guys
Speaker 1: are now trying to get back into the rhythm here
Speaker 1: for a couple more days before the game. It's a
Speaker 1: nice it's a nice chance to kind of pull the
Speaker 1: upset potentially Thursday night. I like that. I'm gonna cling
Speaker 1: to that. Pull the upset potentially. It's an opportunity. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna happen. Isaiah's smirking at me.
Speaker 1: I don't know if, but I don't know if I
Speaker 1: got a question, And I think this is in your wheelhouse.
Speaker 1: As far as the receivers for Tampa, I mean, they
Speaker 1: have three bona fide and we haven't even talked about Gronkowski.
Speaker 1: We hadn't talked about oj how Howard, and we hadn't
Speaker 1: talked about playoff Lenny yet. Okay, we hadn't talked about
Speaker 1: any of the things that they've done in the offseason
Speaker 1: with the running backs or any of that. Man the
Speaker 1: matchup itself, when you've had an opportunity to look at
Speaker 1: your dvs, talk about Brown, Digs and potentially Kennedy in
Speaker 1: the situation, are Jay Lou on this receiving corps specifically
Speaker 1: about our receivers versus their dbs. If if they have
Speaker 1: one week spot on their defense, I would feel it
Speaker 1: it's their secondary. If there is a week spot on
Speaker 1: their defense on their team, every other position they they
Speaker 1: they outman us just I'm just gonna call it out.
Speaker 1: If they outman us in every other position in this
Speaker 1: in this game, even wide receiver, even wide receiver, we
Speaker 1: have some really good wide receivers. Their wide receivers are
Speaker 1: freaking awesome. They are. And then and I mean, we
Speaker 1: have a we have a bona fide number one obviously,
Speaker 1: UM and we have a guy that we're saying is
Speaker 1: one B that's coming along CD. He did well last year.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can call him a one yet, right.
Speaker 1: I think we think he's getting there. I think he's
Speaker 1: getting there. They have two ones. Let's just call it
Speaker 1: how it is. I don't care if Antonio Brown is
Speaker 1: a little bit older. Anybody who lines up against Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown knows you better, you better strap up, you better
Speaker 1: strap up because he's gonna give you that work. Um.
Speaker 1: They got Mike Evans, they got guy one who's who
Speaker 1: would dice you up underneath um, and then they have
Speaker 1: three proof even tight ends, three proven tight ends. So
Speaker 1: when we started talking about our defensive backs, and you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I think when you started talking about Israel mcquomwell,
Speaker 1: whether or not he was gonna make this roster, I
Speaker 1: think week one was on their minds. What happens when
Speaker 1: they come out in two tight ends and three wide
Speaker 1: receivers split out so it appears as five wide, but
Speaker 1: they got Gronkowski and Oj Howard out there, or if
Speaker 1: they want to keep one end tight, they bring in
Speaker 1: their blocking. They're blocking a tight end and break right
Speaker 1: and they lead the rest of the guys out there.
Speaker 1: They put Oj Howard and Bronkowski and they wipe those
Speaker 1: guys out. They come out in three tight end set.
Speaker 1: There's so much that they can do because they're so
Speaker 1: deep at every position, and then they're running back stable. Goodness, gracious, Yes,
Speaker 1: we have a lot of work to do. Not only
Speaker 1: do they line up, do they match up against us
Speaker 1: very well? Position wise? They're coaching is freaking awesome. Their coaches,
Speaker 1: their coaching is awesome. So as much as it's gonna
Speaker 1: be an interpersonal battle in terms of our guys on
Speaker 1: the field, our ocs are if dcs, our special teams coordinator,
Speaker 1: they are gearing up to have a have a dog
Speaker 1: on three hundred battle out there on that field as well,
Speaker 1: because they're gonna be looking across from booth to booth
Speaker 1: across the field and they're gonna be having it just
Speaker 1: as much of a duel as the guys that are
Speaker 1: are strapped up with the helmets are. You know, when
Speaker 1: you look at when you look at Tampa, one of
Speaker 1: the things that I think is it really familiar is
Speaker 1: how close it is to the New England offenses of old,
Speaker 1: with the exception being that now Tom is trying to
Speaker 1: take the top off of defenses by going along. That's
Speaker 1: something that they didn't have in New England, okay, and
Speaker 1: now he's getting that leash to do that in this
Speaker 1: new offense. And I think that maybe that's the one
Speaker 1: thing that we'll have if this defensive line is where
Speaker 1: you need it to be to manufacture that pressure, because
Speaker 1: we cannot sit back where we lacked last year was
Speaker 1: the ability to create pressure and create turnovers. That was
Speaker 1: not our stick last year, but it has to be
Speaker 1: and that's what the emphasis has been for dan Quinn
Speaker 1: and for me. When you start talking about the positions
Speaker 1: and where they are, where we're able to take advantage
Speaker 1: of them. I think on defense, when you look at
Speaker 1: them in the middle of their offensive line, I think
Speaker 1: that the man on the works is the truth that
Speaker 1: the tackle it. So, yeah, guys are gonna have their
Speaker 1: work cut out for them there. But I think in
Speaker 1: the middle of this defense and whether we could catch
Speaker 1: him on the edge of or whatnot, that's the kind
Speaker 1: of pressure that we have to manufacture if we're gonna win,
Speaker 1: if we're gonna even be in this ball. But we're
Speaker 1: gonna to match their intensity because isn't their center he
Speaker 1: isn't he the one who likes to freaking drug you,
Speaker 1: drag you every dog gonna play the games, who will
Speaker 1: finish you while the referee blew the whistle with his
Speaker 1: back turn, He's gonna try to get you right. He
Speaker 1: might get a personal foul, but that's the intensity that
Speaker 1: that he tries to initiate on that on the on
Speaker 1: the front, on the offensive front. So we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to match their intensity. You started talking about some of
Speaker 1: our our rookie right, Ohsa, he's gonna have to bring it.
Speaker 1: They're gonna eat that. That dude is going to test
Speaker 1: him as soon as he stepped on the field, he's
Speaker 1: gonna look at him like really really, bohanna, really? All right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna see the little young fellaws. We gonna see
Speaker 1: what you got, and they're gonna have to tighten up
Speaker 1: that loop. Right. You normally go with three loops. You
Speaker 1: got that got four loops down right and put the
Speaker 1: thing because they're gonna test you. And they're not only
Speaker 1: gonna touch test your physical ability, but they're gonna test
Speaker 1: your your your your will. And that's more so. They
Speaker 1: they're gonna try to break your will and you have
Speaker 1: to And that's what we're gonna find out. What is
Speaker 1: his teammate of this year? Are they gonna punch back?
Speaker 1: Are we gonna We're gonna get punched them out? No
Speaker 1: doubt about it. Will be punch back. Pe I gotta
Speaker 1: ask you like for for Michael Parsons and knowing that
Speaker 1: we hadn't seen the way that dan Quinn is going
Speaker 1: to use him. We don't know, but we do know
Speaker 1: based off of what Mike McCarthy said that he's in
Speaker 1: three different meeting rooms each and every week learning new
Speaker 1: technique because of the way that they are going to
Speaker 1: use him. Can this rookie impact this game from based
Speaker 1: off of what you've seen in the preseason against a
Speaker 1: team like ten, I was just gonna go there. I
Speaker 1: think he's he's and if not, the X factor for
Speaker 1: this defense because of all the different things he can
Speaker 1: do and has shown he can do um and we
Speaker 1: just talked about having to get there with pressure. That
Speaker 1: might be the best thing he does right now as
Speaker 1: a as a linebacker. Let him play free here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they sent him on blitzes. And it is interesting,
Speaker 1: like we haven't seen everything dan Quinn wants to do.
Speaker 1: He hasn't shown everything. I don't know how much of
Speaker 1: an advantage that is going into Week one against Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: It can't hurt, yeah, to not have shown everything you
Speaker 1: want to do. But I think he presents a different
Speaker 1: dynamic they didn't have last year in their front seven. Also,
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory does too, because yeah, he played last year
Speaker 1: and he played pretty well, but he was playing in
Speaker 1: the you know, the twenties, thirties snaps. He should be
Speaker 1: in the fifties in terms of playing on that right
Speaker 1: edge and really giving them some extra pressure. That that's
Speaker 1: Those are two key guys they didn't have last year,
Speaker 1: in addition to a new scheme, new wrinkles that other
Speaker 1: teams haven't seen yet. So we'll see how it works.
Speaker 1: The weird part about this matchup is that we've concentrated
Speaker 1: on Tom Brady and those receivers. But the strength of
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Bucks is their defense. They won a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Yeah, with that defense, and we have an
Speaker 1: offense that has not been together any in the preseason.
Speaker 1: Does that give you pause? Well? I know it does.
Speaker 1: So I mean with with in Dominican Sue, with Jason
Speaker 1: Pierre Paul, with Lavonte David and Devin White. I mean
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot. There's a lot, Yes, yes, Ghost,
Speaker 1: there's a lot. There's a lot to try and overcome
Speaker 1: offensively your offensive line from what you've seen from years pass.
Speaker 1: Do you believe that they can manufacture that great wall
Speaker 1: type of performance again for Zeke, because that's what's going
Speaker 1: to be important to win this game. I think the
Speaker 1: question marks that we have regarding revolving around our offensive
Speaker 1: line will be tested. Immediately you started talking about the
Speaker 1: position of center, is beyond is ready to take on
Speaker 1: the Dominican Sue or Vita Vea? Yeah, you know, we
Speaker 1: started talking about guard. You know, are we gonna have
Speaker 1: Carnter Williams back? You know, well, Carner be back, and
Speaker 1: if he is back, well, guess what he's gonna be
Speaker 1: facing those same two guys at tackle. You know, I
Speaker 1: think we're gonna be okay at the tackle position. But
Speaker 1: guess what. Those guys were injured. They haven't challenged. They
Speaker 1: haven't faced anybody of this caliber, you know, yet and
Speaker 1: in a while and in a very long time since
Speaker 1: they've been injured. So are they gonna be ready to
Speaker 1: handle Barrett? Are they gonna be ready to handle Jpp?
Speaker 1: This is what the questions that we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: have answer because we are going to be challenged. And
Speaker 1: I think the DP, how aside from the scheme of
Speaker 1: Tampa based defense, their front seven is what we want
Speaker 1: our front seven to be, exactly how we want them.
Speaker 1: That they don't have any question marks, and whether or
Speaker 1: not they can stop the run not even a question.
Speaker 1: You line up and you try to come at Vita
Speaker 1: Via and and Dominican sue you you mean, just go
Speaker 1: outside right, you have a better chance of kicking JPP
Speaker 1: out or kicking out of Barrett. So we want that
Speaker 1: same presence. And what do they have at the second
Speaker 1: level fast linebackers They running hit David, Yeah, David and White.
Speaker 1: They those guys they running hit right. So that's what
Speaker 1: we so exactly how they're set up. That's what we're
Speaker 1: trying to mimic. So it's gonna be a heck of
Speaker 1: a test for our officive line to have been facing
Speaker 1: what we're trying to become in camp. Now they're facing
Speaker 1: the ultimate, the dog on the level, the highest level
Speaker 1: on more to comeback. You know, you go up the
Speaker 1: dog on the little thing we face. We're facing the master.
Speaker 1: You know, this is exactly what they what you draw
Speaker 1: it up to be. But you say that and I
Speaker 1: look at my offensive line. Zack Martin is still on
Speaker 1: this offensive line the arguably the best guard in football.
Speaker 1: That's one side that is Smith. It's still arguably the
Speaker 1: best tackle into lootball. Cowboys have some dudes too, absolutely,
Speaker 1: we have we have some dogs. We have some dogs
Speaker 1: but collectively, that's what I'm talking about. Collectively. It's it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, um, it was, I don't even know
Speaker 1: what an example, but there we have some spots that
Speaker 1: might have some little scenes. Right if we're trying to
Speaker 1: build a dog on wall, maybe we didn't put the
Speaker 1: calking in there a little bit, you know, all the
Speaker 1: way firm and there's a little little little seat pitch
Speaker 1: that we can get there. So what do you do?
Speaker 1: You you hit right at that one little spot right
Speaker 1: until you poke a dog on a hole. That's what
Speaker 1: I feel like they're going to try to exploit within
Speaker 1: our team. And when we start talking about our defense
Speaker 1: being able to try to get to Tom Brady, we
Speaker 1: need to find a way for Parsons to get the
Speaker 1: Brady early because we need to build his confidence. We
Speaker 1: need to build his confidence. When I play with TB twelve,
Speaker 1: I know he hates being uncomfortable back there. He hates it.
Speaker 1: If if you get to him, he will get jittery
Speaker 1: back there. So we have to find a way to
Speaker 1: get to him. We have to find a way to
Speaker 1: bottle him up and squeeze that thing in. So Dlaw
Speaker 1: Gregory strapped up and we gotta be able to push
Speaker 1: the edge. We gotta be able to just funnel this
Speaker 1: guy in there and then find a way to mix
Speaker 1: things up with stunts and things of that nature. To
Speaker 1: let Parsons come in there and fly around like like
Speaker 1: dog on Brian Dawkins back in the day. Just come
Speaker 1: in there, just x man over the top of the Wolverene.
Speaker 1: One thing to keep an eye on. We mentioned the
Speaker 1: offensive line for the Cowboys. You mentioned Connor Williams. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe he can get back in the next couple of days.
Speaker 1: He hasn't practiced in a while at that left guard position.
Speaker 1: Loud Collins too, he's not going to practice today, maybe tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Either had the stingers the last week of camp and
Speaker 1: also the week prior that, some of that next shoulder
Speaker 1: stuff gathering him. So they're just being careful with him
Speaker 1: right now. I would think he's gonna start in this game.
Speaker 1: But it's just something to keep an eye on for
Speaker 1: this old line as they get into week one against it.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not just hyping them up. I mean
Speaker 1: I said, I say is right. You know Tampa Bay's defense,
Speaker 1: that front seven does not have a weakness. I was
Speaker 1: trying to think of an analogy like you said, like
Speaker 1: maybe a boxer with his guard ups. They're I mean,
Speaker 1: they're as good as it gets in this league right now.
Speaker 1: Well you expect the World champions too. I mean they
Speaker 1: returned all twenty two, right they not only did they there,
Speaker 1: I think they're only second team ever to return all
Speaker 1: twenty two guys from a Super Bowl year. I want
Speaker 1: to say the first. They first in the salary cap area,
Speaker 1: got you, okay, So the first team to ever do that.
Speaker 1: So not only do they have that continuity and they
Speaker 1: know each other, don't they don't have questions on what
Speaker 1: they can and can't do. They don't have questions. Heck,
Speaker 1: can you do a stunt? I don't know. I feel
Speaker 1: like you can't. Okay, no you can. I know you can.
Speaker 1: You did it last year. We did it all the
Speaker 1: way to the dog on Super Bowl and got this
Speaker 1: jewelry now right with a detachable top. Not only that,
Speaker 1: they add it to their team, yeah, they add it.
Speaker 1: So not only we having to try to break through
Speaker 1: that first line of defense, which is there. They're there
Speaker 1: number ones, but they're number twos and freeze in fours.
Speaker 1: That's where we have to break through. So I when
Speaker 1: I talk about our tenacity and our will and our wheel,
Speaker 1: that is what it's going to be on the line
Speaker 1: because they're gonna hit us. We're gonna hit we have
Speaker 1: we got dogs too, They're gonna hit us. They're gon
Speaker 1: We're waiting who's gonna Who's gonna Who's gonna decided to
Speaker 1: take a deep breath first, because if you take a
Speaker 1: deep breath against these guys, yeah night. But the thing
Speaker 1: about Tampa that's most intriguing to me is that they
Speaker 1: only upgraded at one player for all the other guys.
Speaker 1: They bought in Tom Brady, and he was the difference
Speaker 1: to win the championship. I mean, what a difference a
Speaker 1: player can make. Michael Parsons, and I'm relating that to
Speaker 1: him and saying, the change from the defense from last
Speaker 1: year this year, can that be that one guy that
Speaker 1: can spark the change that you need to have the defense?
Speaker 1: Because everybody, when we've been talking about this, we hadn't
Speaker 1: been saying, oh, Okay, we need a top ten defense.
Speaker 1: We've been saying we need a middle of the road defense.
Speaker 1: So we're coming from last and we're trying to at
Speaker 1: least get the fifteen thirteen. Right, Can Michael Parsons be
Speaker 1: the difference maker on this defense to get you to
Speaker 1: that level? Or do you think you need more than
Speaker 1: just that rookie to do that. I can tell you this,
Speaker 1: you need a top ten defense against this team to
Speaker 1: be successful against Tampa Bay. You need every I don't
Speaker 1: care if we're gonna be that the rest of the
Speaker 1: year against Tampa we need to be a top ten defense.
Speaker 1: And I think the success of his defense really rides
Speaker 1: on the ability to get Michael Parsons confident and let
Speaker 1: him fly around. I think we all saw his personality
Speaker 1: on hard knocks, and we've been able to see it
Speaker 1: obviously out here in practice. If you get him confident,
Speaker 1: and you get him feeling like he's invincible and he
Speaker 1: could run around and play like a madman, everybody else
Speaker 1: is gonna feed off that energy. And when it does
Speaker 1: when you in regards to adding one player, when you
Speaker 1: have one guy that's riding like that and it's high
Speaker 1: and he's hyped up, and it's contagious. So guess what
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, man, I might be getting my
Speaker 1: butt kicked by him. Buddy. Oh shoot, okay, I got
Speaker 1: hold on me, okay, he's hype. Okay, let's go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go against it. And then that everybody starts viping
Speaker 1: off that and then guess what, you make a play
Speaker 1: and then maybe you force you know, you face TV
Speaker 1: twelve to get the ball out a little bit earlier.
Speaker 1: Now it is third and twelve, and now you you
Speaker 1: got three and out. Now you're getting everybody up. You
Speaker 1: don't need the dog on crowds. So what you're in Tampa,
Speaker 1: you got your sideline. Everybody gets hyped, and now that
Speaker 1: transitions to special teams, and now that goes to the offense. Right,
Speaker 1: So it does some time to take that one player,
Speaker 1: but you have to make sure that he's confident, because
Speaker 1: I think if he's discouraged, I think this whole defense
Speaker 1: will be discouraged. And that's what I'm saying. I think
Speaker 1: it's I think it's contagious. And when you have a
Speaker 1: guy that comes with a winning pedigree like Tom Brady
Speaker 1: that can take over the locker room immediately, people are
Speaker 1: gonna follow that for our defense, as long as we
Speaker 1: don't have secondary guys saying I don't hustle on every play.
Speaker 1: See I see your whole body language change when you
Speaker 1: hear something like that, because as a player, that's just
Speaker 1: not acceptable. And so when you have a guy like
Speaker 1: Parson that's going sideline the sideline and bolster the wall
Speaker 1: on every play you that's you can't have a guy
Speaker 1: that's saying, Oh, I don't if it's not coming my way,
Speaker 1: I'm not going yeah. Yeah. And again my concern is
Speaker 1: our will. My concern is our will to bounce back,
Speaker 1: because I foresee dan Quinn trying to trying to initiate
Speaker 1: confidence in this defense by what bringing pressure? Bringing pressure
Speaker 1: right and sit back he can't say, but you can't
Speaker 1: sit back right. You got to send him. But guess what,
Speaker 1: when you send him, you leave susceptible to a big play.
Speaker 1: So when they when they hit that big play, because
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen, you just hope it doesn't happen repeatedly
Speaker 1: when they hit that big play, what's your response? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is your response? Now? You're gonna get home sometimes
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get to TV twelve. Sometimes you're not.
Speaker 1: So those times that you don't, how do you respond
Speaker 1: the next play? Because he's gonna hustle up to the ball,
Speaker 1: he's gonna snap the ball. Again, and guess what, he's
Speaker 1: gonna throw it over your head again, right, or he's
Speaker 1: gonna dunk it down low. When those guys gonna h
Speaker 1: you're gonna miss a tackle? Are you gonna close your
Speaker 1: eyes and whip on a tackle? And then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden they have another first down? How are we
Speaker 1: going to respond? That's what I want to see in
Speaker 1: regards to this defense and in relation to Dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: That's why I referenced Law and Randy earlier because I'm
Speaker 1: going way back here, but you were part of one
Speaker 1: of those teams oh seven Giants, Oh not? It was
Speaker 1: it whenever whenever the Giants beat Brady twice, they had
Speaker 1: a front seven that didn't have to blitz too often.
Speaker 1: And you know, can the Cowboys do that enough? You know?
Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna take some blitzing, I'm sure, but
Speaker 1: if you can get around him without having a blitz
Speaker 1: and that's perfect scenario. That's what Tampa Bay did. The
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes and the Super Bowl isn't at the perfect scere.
Speaker 1: That's what you want because with the guys that they
Speaker 1: brought in this offseason at the running back position, you
Speaker 1: don't want to be blitzing because he's just gonna dunk
Speaker 1: it off, just like he used to do with who's
Speaker 1: a running back out there doing the white Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's dunke that thing off and a little five yard
Speaker 1: pass turns into a twenty yard run. You don't want
Speaker 1: to blitz against this because he's seen it on I
Speaker 1: guarantee I know him. I've been in meeting rooms with
Speaker 1: that dude for a whole year. He has watched every
Speaker 1: piece of film from dan Quinn from all the way
Speaker 1: back to Seattle. I can guarantee he's seen everything that
Speaker 1: dan Quinn's had. That is so crazy that you say that,
Speaker 1: because as a if you just think about Tom Brady's
Speaker 1: career and as long as he's been in the NFL,
Speaker 1: how much taste does he have on defensive coordinators and
Speaker 1: head coaches. If he just compiled the data that he has,
Speaker 1: he has enough tape on the whole. There is nothing
Speaker 1: that you could throw at him. And I don't want
Speaker 1: to make him seem like he's bulletproof him. Obviously, you
Speaker 1: know you can get to Tom Bradies. But I have
Speaker 1: been in the meeting room when when I was playing
Speaker 1: in New England and we're playing against Rex Ryan right
Speaker 1: in the in the Jets, and Rex Ryan drew up
Speaker 1: whatever the heck he wanted to, So I talked about
Speaker 1: that green book. You don't say up for the waterboy.
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan used to drop up one defensive lineman, five linebackers,
Speaker 1: five dbs, and he would load it up with seven
Speaker 1: guys on one side. And we used to be in
Speaker 1: the meeting room watching this like, and I'm in my head,
Speaker 1: I'm the young guy on the team and in the
Speaker 1: quarterback room just trying to understand, Okay, now, how the
Speaker 1: heck is he gonna block this up? And TV twelve
Speaker 1: would just make it so so simple. He's like, we
Speaker 1: don't have to know who's playing what position. As long
Speaker 1: as we're on the same page and we're all thinking
Speaker 1: the same thing, we're successful. So guess what, heck, man,
Speaker 1: I don't care if that you're a dog on defensive linement,
Speaker 1: you're the mike, you're the mic, and we're sitting in
Speaker 1: our protection that way. I don't care which five guys
Speaker 1: come block up those guys over there. So he's seen
Speaker 1: it all. He's seen it all. And I used to
Speaker 1: sit up there with my brain like, how how he
Speaker 1: just he doesn't have to be amazing. I just need
Speaker 1: to be on the same page with my teammates. Well,
Speaker 1: i'll tell you what we're gonna We're gonna bet a
Speaker 1: Christmas tree on this game because Isaiah's built it up
Speaker 1: so well. I already know when we go to picking
Speaker 1: for this game where Isaiah's going. So hey, hey, we
Speaker 1: put the road out there talking about getting home. Guys,
Speaker 1: that's our time without Kyle. And look, we're back on tuesdaysday,
Speaker 1: Tuesday forty hour rule before the game. Maybe not Tuesday
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock. And for Isaiah standing back, for Raw
Speaker 1: Phillis and for Chris Beam in the back. I'm HECKM.
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