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Speaker 3: We have to rise above challenges and find strength in

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Speaker 3: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. Hello,

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Speaker 3: and welcome to faith and freedom. I'm Chamain Nugent. If

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Speaker 3: you've been feeling like something's off, You're not alone. We

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Speaker 3: are living in a time when biblical prophecy isn't just

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Speaker 3: being preached, it's actually playing out in real time. Faith

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Speaker 3: not going to back down. We're asking tough questions and

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Speaker 3: getting answers about what's really happening in our health, in

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Speaker 3: designed to make you sick. This show, Faith and Freedom

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Speaker 3: I am so glad that you're here. Our first guest,

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much for having me. Samaine.

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Speaker 3: Why do you think that so many institutions fear RFK

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Speaker 4: He is a very unconventional choice to lead AHHS, and

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Speaker 4: I would submit that's exactly what we need. Conventional choices

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Speaker 4: have delivered us where we find ourselves today, in a

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Speaker 4: Well, to be clear, I am not quote anti vaccine

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Speaker 4: done on these vaccines. They were never compared to a placebo,

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Speaker 4: And the answer is correct, it's money.

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Speaker 3: It's about money, and it doesn't make any sense at all.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad that you're exposing this truth. You're being

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Speaker 7: Weller's the opportuner need to be an outside. It's the

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Speaker 5: We love to hunt, and we love to have pure

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Speaker 3: So what do we do?

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Speaker 2: Ted switch to America with chemaine beef.

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Speaker 5: It's tough. It's not like you can go okay, God,

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Speaker 2: I think I got twenty nine days in a row

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Speaker 3: a time. Brad Cummings is the co creator of The Shack,

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Speaker 3: Brad Cummings joins me now, Brad, welcome.

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Speaker 8: Thanks Jamaine. Good to be here with you.

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Speaker 5: Good to see you. So I get you for two segments.

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Speaker 5: I totally agree.

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Speaker 8: The reality is is we're called to be salt and light,

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Speaker 5: And I always end this show with Esther four.

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Speaker 5: And then I look at Esther four fourteen.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's so important, and I want to

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Speaker 8: I actually don't think God cares all that much where

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Speaker 8: You know. It's like, I don't have any hope that

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Speaker 8: And I actually don't think is as hard as we

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Speaker 3: I love that you're giving this audience a twenty percent

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Speaker 3: that's that's.

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Speaker 8: For That's for the Shack and a whole bunch of

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Speaker 8: I don't think there's a more valuable resource, all in

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Brad, Can you stick around for another segment.

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Speaker 5: We'll get into the Shack and all the media projects.

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Speaker 5: You're home, Okay, don't go away everyone, We'll be right back.

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Speaker 7: Well, there's the opportuner need to be an outside because

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Speaker 5: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.

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Speaker 3: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Brad Comings, co producer of The Shack. Brad Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: So I got to hear the story, how'd you get

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Speaker 3: involved in this amazing project.

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Speaker 8: The Shock. Well, there's two of us that kind of

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Speaker 8: got bounced out of the organized normal religion church and

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Speaker 8: we still love Jesus. And we started one of the

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Speaker 8: early podcasts in the day of when podcasts were not

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Speaker 8: like everywhere. And when Wayne was traveling at one point,

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Speaker 8: he the guy that you drove him to and from

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Speaker 8: the airport, gave him a little book that he had

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Speaker 8: just written for his kids. And when I came to

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Speaker 8: tape another show with Wayne, he was at the table

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Speaker 8: kind of in tears, and I'm going like, what are

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Speaker 8: you looking at because I've never seen him in tears,

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Speaker 8: and he was looking at the original manuscript and he

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Speaker 8: said something about this is just cutting through my heart

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Speaker 8: and it's fantastic, and I said, well, do share. And

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Speaker 8: it was Paul Young's original manuscript that he's just written

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Speaker 8: as a you know, some things for his kids, and

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Speaker 8: in it was just this just beautiful little story that

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Speaker 8: tractor beam your heart. Because all of us had gone

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Speaker 8: through pain and difficulty, and I think most of us

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Speaker 8: feel kind of abandoned when that happens, because we sort

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Speaker 8: of assume if God's around, it should all be going good.

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Speaker 8: But our experience was he was there in the mess

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Speaker 8: of things as well, And so when I read it,

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Speaker 8: I just said, you know, we had turned this into

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Speaker 8: a movie, and we decided to go the route of

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Speaker 8: turning it into a book first, and so we invited

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Speaker 8: Paul down to say, hey, what are you trying to

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Speaker 8: do with it? And he said, nothing, I just wanted

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Speaker 8: to share it as a gift with you. We said, well,

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Speaker 8: we think it has a lot of potential. So we

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Speaker 8: went through four major rewrites with him over the course

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Speaker 8: of a year and a half and had a bunch

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Speaker 8: of people reading along. And then we tried to give

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Speaker 8: it to a bunch of publishers, and we got turned

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Speaker 8: down by twenty six different publishers, not because they didn't

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Speaker 8: love it, they didn't know what to do with The

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Speaker 8: secular one said it was to jesusy and the Christian

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Speaker 8: one said it was a little too edgy, and so

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Speaker 8: we just decided to publish it ourselves, and we started

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Speaker 8: out of my garage and we on two hundred dollars

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Speaker 8: of marketing ended up selling a couple million copies and

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Speaker 8: now it's sold over twenty two million and still counting.

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Speaker 8: And we're having a chance to We did the movie

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Speaker 8: with Lionsgate, was one of the producers for that, and

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Speaker 8: then we have a chance to turn it into a

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Speaker 8: whole TV series with maybe multiple seasons with Amazon and Lionsgate.

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Speaker 8: That's what we're working on right now.

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Speaker 5: That is amazing.

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Speaker 3: And you've got some other projects going on too, or

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Speaker 3: just focusing on that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that's taking up the lion's share of

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Speaker 8: my time. But this whole thing about the whole purpose

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Speaker 8: and destiny of America and the fact that it's not finished.

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Speaker 8: I'm working with another buddy that we're trying to take

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Speaker 8: the crisis time of seventeen seventy five and seventeen seventy

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Speaker 8: six to lead up to it and sort of unpack

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Speaker 8: the whole history of what led to the revolution and

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Speaker 8: really what was going on, because I think we're living

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Speaker 8: in the same parallel today of those times, with everything

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Speaker 8: just as at stake, and I think there's a yearning

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Speaker 8: in the heart of people to be free, But the

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Speaker 8: question is do we have the courage to fight for that?

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Speaker 8: So We're going to pitch that as another multiple season series,

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Speaker 8: so we'll see. I'm excited to tell stories as opposed

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Speaker 8: to just preach servants because I think stories have a

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Speaker 8: way of getting into people's heart. And if you tell

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Speaker 8: them well as opposed to telling them what to believe,

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Speaker 8: you ask the right questions and they started filling the

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Speaker 8: branks and it begins a wonderful conversation.

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Speaker 3: I agree, And you know, I think there's a portion

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Speaker 3: of our society, our kids who have missed out on

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Speaker 3: our founding fathers and faith being in school. Do you

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Speaker 3: have anything for kids as well?

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Speaker 8: We did a story on the Windblown site. There's one

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Speaker 8: to call the Butterfly Circus that is just amazing. It's

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Speaker 8: not just for kids, but it is about a whole

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Speaker 8: story of transformation out of difficulty. I think people would

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Speaker 8: absolutely love that. I've had twelve year olds write me

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Speaker 8: letters about the shack because somehow it says, you know,

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Speaker 8: it took this, somehow made sense to me. God was

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Speaker 8: not just a an idea or a doctrine, but he

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Speaker 8: was a person with whom I'm starting to have a relationship,

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Speaker 8: and I'm just going like that is the most you know,

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Speaker 8: fantastic response, and so I don't think the Shack is

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Speaker 8: necessarily just for children. I think it's for all ages.

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Speaker 8: But it's like, if you got a teenager, they'll they'll

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Speaker 8: be engrossed in it. It's a fantastic story. Is where

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Speaker 8: we live it is.

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Speaker 5: It's difficult. At first.

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Speaker 3: I remember going, oh, I knew the storyline, and I thought, oh.

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Speaker 8: You got to get past the first five chapters. When

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Speaker 8: we wrote it, I had a daughter who was six

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Speaker 8: years old, so this was this was direct front and center,

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Speaker 8: going like, oh no, what would have her happen if

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Speaker 8: something happened to her? But I think the reality is

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Speaker 8: is the entire world is acquainted with pain. That's that's

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Speaker 8: nobody's a stranger to that. The question is where is

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Speaker 8: God in the midst of that? And how do I

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Speaker 8: reach out to him in sort of a non religious

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Speaker 8: way and find a real place of connection. And I

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Speaker 8: think that's God's sweet spot, That's where he wants to be.

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Speaker 8: And that's why I think this story is so powerful.

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Speaker 8: It's not because we're such phenomenal writers. I think it

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Speaker 8: was a conversation that God wanted to have with the planet.

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Speaker 5: How did you get involved in going to seminary.

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Speaker 3: We raised in a faith filled family.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, the honest truth is I come from

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Speaker 8: a pedigree of wonderful folks that have known Jesus for

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Speaker 8: a lot of time. But I met Jesus when I

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Speaker 8: was a little six year old at the end of

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Speaker 8: a the end of the street of a Bible study.

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Speaker 8: Some lady was talking about Jesus using the felt board

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Speaker 8: and when she asked, is there anyone here that wants

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Speaker 8: to have Jesus as their friend? I looked at the

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Speaker 8: board and I saw mister Felt standing behind the board

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Speaker 8: and he winked at me. I didn't have a deep,

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Speaker 8: dark past to repent of, but I was invited into

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Speaker 8: a friendship that was real, and nobody told me I

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Speaker 8: couldn't hear him and I couldn't see him, and so

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Speaker 8: I could, and you know, we led a couple one

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Speaker 8: hundred little kids to the Lord after that. So this

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Speaker 8: has been part of my life. I used to be

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Speaker 8: a professional pastor. Now I do it for free because

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Speaker 8: I can't not do it.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of funny to me, because professional pastor.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's your calling and you've been blessed

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Speaker 3: with the ability to get involved in media. You're out

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Speaker 3: in California, You're what some people say is living in

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Speaker 3: the eye of the storm.

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Speaker 5: Are you are you? Are you going to hunker down?

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Speaker 5: Stay there?

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Speaker 4: Is it ever going to get I mean.

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Speaker 8: As goes La, so goes the globe. I went to

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Speaker 8: school at Pepperdine and I majored in TV and film.

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Speaker 8: And you know, I taught tennis to all the stars there.

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Speaker 8: That was the way I paid my way through school.

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Speaker 8: So I've known a lot of people in this industry

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Speaker 8: that didn't do anything for me. It's it's it's the

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Speaker 8: real creative reality. And when God said do you want

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Speaker 8: to make movies, He's like, yeah, I didn't know if

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Speaker 8: I was good enough to do it. And he says,

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Speaker 8: well you get to. And I said, Lord, that's a

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Speaker 8: strange way to answer that request. And he said, if

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Speaker 8: you'll spend time with me, I am the fountain of creativity.

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Speaker 8: I'll give you what you need that will make a

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Speaker 8: difference in this world. And honestly, that's my humble little

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Speaker 8: response is I don't know how this works. I mean,

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Speaker 8: getting into the film industry is like as salmon swimming

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Speaker 8: up Niagara Falls. There's no real easy way to do it,

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Speaker 8: and it's not a nice environment. There's a lot of

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Speaker 8: really rough people and they don't serve the same God

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Speaker 8: I do. A lot of them are serving playing on

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Speaker 8: the other team. But I just think it's because they

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Speaker 8: haven't met the guy I know.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's so easy for a lot of people to

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Speaker 3: just stay in their comfort zone, not go vote. Leave

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Speaker 3: the prayers to pastors and people who are really standing

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Speaker 3: up and being esthers and not on the sidelines, but

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Speaker 3: the men in the arena, so to speak. So I

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Speaker 3: appreciate I met you a couple of years ago at

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Speaker 3: Scott Kesterson's barge fast and I have always loved staying

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Speaker 3: in touch, and I am so grateful that you have

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Speaker 3: come on.

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Speaker 5: I got one more question for you.

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Speaker 3: What was something that you learned from your success that

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Speaker 3: was surprising.

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Speaker 8: It's a common phrase. Success has many fathers. Failure is

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Speaker 8: an orphan and so the reality is is you know,

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Speaker 8: I think if you're going to tell stories, well you

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Speaker 8: have to start by listening to the contributions of others.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 8: I think I have a plaque that my wife gave me.

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Speaker 8: It's sort of a blessing and a curse. It says

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Speaker 8: the world has yet to see what one man can

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Speaker 8: do if he doesn't mind who gets the credit. And

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Speaker 8: I think that's one of the biggest challenges, is can

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Speaker 8: we do something as a servant and as a gift

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Speaker 8: for others, even just telling stories. A lot of writers

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Speaker 8: try to make themselves known in their stories, and I

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Speaker 8: think the reality is is I'm trying to give a

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Speaker 8: gift to the reader. I'm trying to do something for

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Speaker 8: the viewer so that it moves their heart in a

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Speaker 8: way that would be helpful. And so I think if

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Speaker 8: you really come at it from this standpoint, you'll probably

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Speaker 8: do it a lot better.

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Speaker 3: I love that well, Brad Cummins, thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for being here. Thank you for offering my audience twenty

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Speaker 3: percent off at windblownmedia dot com.

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Speaker 5: What are a couple of things that they might see there?

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Speaker 8: That book right there, A man like no other. It's

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Speaker 8: a beautiful book. It's kind of like in the sphere

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Speaker 8: of the shack. It's like taking it out of the

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Speaker 8: religious languages and making it totally accessible virtually every resource

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Speaker 8: we have on there, I would say is worth its

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Speaker 8: weight and goal as far as the impact that it

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Speaker 8: would have on just you've been able to have a walking,

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Speaker 8: talking relationship with the living God. So I would encourage folks,

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Speaker 8: whatever you have interest in, snag it up. I'm not

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Speaker 8: here to sell product, but I am wanting to put

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Speaker 8: seeds into people's hearts.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and this is going to do it.

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Speaker 3: Captain Roger Hill is a combat veteran who stood for

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Speaker 3: truth when he uncovered spies in his own unit. His

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Speaker 3: courage cost him dearly, but his faith kept him strong. Welcome, Captain,

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Speaker 3: how are you.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing well. Thanks thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for being here, and thank you

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Speaker 3: for being bold and brave and standing up. What do

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Speaker 3: you think gave you the courage to stand alone in

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Speaker 3: the military.

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Speaker 1: I think it was the Judeo Christian values that my

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Speaker 1: family raised me with and just incremental decisions over the

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Speaker 1: course of the lifetime, trying to do the right thing

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Speaker 1: day in and day out, so that when the big

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Speaker 1: hard decisions came, it was automatic.

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Speaker 3: In just a two minute version. Can you tell us

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Speaker 3: a little bit about what happened?

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Speaker 6: Certainly? So this dates back to the transition.

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Speaker 1: Between George W. And Barack Obama. This is about when

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Speaker 1: we started the surge into Afghanistan and we were in

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Speaker 1: a province called ward Act Province, which was supposed to

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Speaker 1: be a peaceful province. They just conducted a weapons buyback

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Speaker 1: program the year prior. I me Karzai had named the

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Speaker 1: province Eastvil Province. And we showed up and started to

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Speaker 1: patrol a little bit further out than the previous unit

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Speaker 1: had and we kicked up hornets nets and about six

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Speaker 1: to seven months into our deployment, we had taken about

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Speaker 1: a thirty percent casualty rate for our ninety man company.

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Speaker 1: This is a heavy weapons infantry company based out of

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Speaker 1: the five oh six Parachute Infacure Regiment one hundred and

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Speaker 1: first Airborne. And we knew something was going on, we

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Speaker 1: couldn't quite put our fingers on it. And then by accident,

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Speaker 1: the special Forces team leader that we were partnered with,

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Speaker 1: also based out of our base, attended a intel meeting

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Speaker 1: and was told that there were multiple spies operating on

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Speaker 1: our base and it was the Norwegian special forces team

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Speaker 1: that was tracking their movements.

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Speaker 6: Of all people, he brought that intel back to me.

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Speaker 1: We conducted a operation to ferret out those spies. We

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Speaker 1: captured twelve total confirmed enemy The evidence against them was

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Speaker 1: incontrovertible according to the counter intel team that was partnered

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Speaker 1: with us to find them. In Afghanistan at that time,

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Speaker 1: there was a rule of engagement called the ninety six

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Speaker 1: hour rule, which has since been overturned because of this case,

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Speaker 1: and you had to have enemy combatants charged within four

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Speaker 1: days or release them, and my higher headquarters would not

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Speaker 1: come to pick them up.

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Speaker 3: Wow, it's really disheartening to know that, you know, there

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Speaker 3: are people that you serve with who are trying to

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Speaker 3: undercut the role that you're playing and trying to keep

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Speaker 3: America safe. How did you, How did you get through

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Speaker 3: this and how did faith play a role in your

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Speaker 3: darkest hour?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 1: I think in the moment, I was just responding or

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Speaker 1: reacting to the values that had been instilled in me,

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Speaker 1: and again that was you know, from a praying mother

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Speaker 1: and a praying family. The action that I took, it

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Speaker 1: really kind of took this incident into a difficult place,

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Speaker 1: is it? Because my higher headquarters would not come to

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Speaker 1: pick these buis up. I decided to interrogate them myself,

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Speaker 1: and that included firing my weapon into the ground to

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Speaker 1: frighten them into speaking, which they did. And what had

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Speaker 1: happened this summer just prior to this incident, is there

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Speaker 1: was an outpost that was overrun. This was on that

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Speaker 1: outpost and why not which a movie outpost was made

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Speaker 1: of here in the last couple of years, very popular

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Speaker 1: combat action film. And so that incident had occurred due

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Speaker 1: to an insider threatlack hours just a few weeks prior

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Speaker 1: to our incident. So I felt an urgency to care

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Speaker 1: for my men, which is also a value that was

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Speaker 1: instilled upon me growing up, being somebody who grew up

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Speaker 1: as a fourth generation member of the military. So, when

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Speaker 1: I made this decision and was able to pull intel

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Speaker 1: from these spies and my higher headquarters would not send

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Speaker 1: anyone to pick them up, word got out that I

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Speaker 1: had conducted a mock execution, and that launched an investigation.

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Speaker 1: And so I guess I would say that up until

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Speaker 1: that point in time, things were so busy that I

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Speaker 1: didn't really have time to think about what I was doing.

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Speaker 1: I was reacting, trying to accomplish the mission and take

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Speaker 1: care of my men. But once they started to investigate

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Speaker 1: me is when things really got hard for me personally.

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Speaker 1: I was told by the division that they would seek

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Speaker 1: at least two years prison time at Leavenworth or psychologically

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Speaker 1: torturing the enemy, and they also sought to punish.

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Speaker 6: Some of my men as well.

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Speaker 1: So you know, if you can imagine being taking out

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Speaker 1: of an environment where I was one hundred miles an

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Speaker 1: hour and then all of a sudden putting basically a

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Speaker 1: confinement type situation, and made to wait for two to

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Speaker 1: three months for an investigation to be complete, that was

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Speaker 1: a pretty dark time. And I leaned very heavily on

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Speaker 1: reading from the word. I lean very heavily on what

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Speaker 1: little praise contemporary praise music I could get my hands on.

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Speaker 6: But you talk about feeling life.

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Speaker 1: You know you're you have no options, no hope in

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Speaker 1: battling with that particular devil on a day in a

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Speaker 1: day out.

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Speaker 3: Basis well, Captain Hill, we're so happy that you're okay.

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Speaker 3: I'd love for you to come back on and get

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Speaker 3: into more details. If you'd like to, but thank you

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Speaker 3: so much for your service, and thank you for joining

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Speaker 3: me here on faith and freedom.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 5: Take care, God bless.

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Speaker 3: Okay, guys, before we wrap this show, remember that true

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Speaker 3: we always have to end the show with this, take

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Speaker 4: Quiet.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I've seen that guy and his dog and a lot

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Speaker 3: of different videos and it's so cute. I found it

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Speaker 5: That happened to me.

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Speaker 3: Jackson went into my closet and got one of my shoes.

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Speaker 3: And I was not yelling at him. I don't yell

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Speaker 5: I'm like, you can't take my dance shoe.

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Speaker 3: And he just went like closes eyes and I was

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Speaker 3: Remember Esther four fourteen reminds us we were born for

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, guys, God bless you. I'll see

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Speaker 5: you next week.

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Speaker 3: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.