1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Training Camp Cast. The Patriots Training 2 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Camp Cast is your source for all the news from 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Patriots training Camp. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: Well, I do still watch the news. 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Practice is over, but the writers of Patriots dot com 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: have you covered? 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: What did I miss yesterday? 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Now here to review today's practice? The writers of Patriots 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: dot com. 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: Well, the Patriots were back at it after a day off, 11 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: Day ten of training camp, back in shells here at 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 3: sunny and warm Jillette Stadium. Evan Lazar, Mike do So, 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: Paul Perlo with you. Kind of an interesting day. I 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: thought it was a little bit choppy coming off the 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: day off. 16 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: I thought the. 17 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 3: Execution was a little little sloppy overall. 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: Just I'll let you guys open it up with first impressions. 19 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought a little bit more of a I 20 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 4: don't want to say, a step back. I think the 21 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 4: offense was a little definitely uneven today, and especially the 22 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 4: two's David was missing from practice, and I think that 23 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 4: that's just that's the big theme for me right now 24 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 4: is just the offensive line and the attrition and how 25 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 4: much can you really kill the offense at this point 26 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 4: with what they're dealing with upfront. But you know that said, couple, 27 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 4: you know, middle of the field, eleven sessions, the red zone, 28 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 4: long red zone session. Not a lot of production today 29 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 4: from the offense and not a lot of like, you know, 30 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 4: really well executed passing plays. 31 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 32 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 5: I figured out why Matthew Judon hasn't been practicing. It's 33 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 5: because he recx practice when he does practice. So he 34 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 5: was out there again today full tilt after reworking his 35 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 5: contract that got announced on Friday night, and I had 36 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 5: him down for three sacks and maybe like ten snaps 37 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 5: that he was out there, and a lot of them 38 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 5: came off the right side. I ran a one t 39 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 5: and stunt one straight up pass rush on Connor McDermott 40 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 5: right around him. So I'm with you on the offensive line. 41 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 5: I wanted to be a little bit positive out of 42 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 5: the gate and just say the red sleeves are back 43 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 5: and they look good and it's amazing how he just 44 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 5: stepped right in and it was like he never left 45 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 5: for the defense. And I think that that's what you 46 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 5: wanted to see, was this defense what it was going 47 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 5: to look like and how the pieces were going to 48 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 5: fit together, And we got a little bit of that today. 49 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with you too, on the offensive line, 50 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: you know, with you know strange. Now Andrew's out and 51 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: we haven't seen a WINU yet, so the whole three start, 52 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: you know, projected starters on the inside are out. But 53 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: to Evan's point, it was the edges that you know, 54 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: it seemed to be the issue with Jude On, but 55 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 3: I thought that really kind of took away mac Jones 56 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: and Bailey z appy. I didn't think they either one 57 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 3: of them had a lot of really good opportunities to 58 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: sit back, get on the back foot in the pocket 59 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: and let one rip. They did a few, and there 60 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: was some There was some good balls occasionally, but they 61 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: were few and far between. I did think the defense 62 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 3: had a strong date. I thought Gonzales was much more 63 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: active today than what we've seen I thought the last 64 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: couple of days, and I was kind of worried, like 65 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: is he kind of slipping down? You know, I know 66 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: it's early, but sometimes you're getting camp and it's it's tough, 67 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: it's a grind. 68 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: But he was. 69 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: He was really around the ball today. The interception was 70 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 3: like a ridiculous athletic play. I mean, now you could 71 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: look that two ways. Great play by Gonzales, no matter 72 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: how you look at it, but the other the other one. 73 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: And this is something I've been noticing a lot more 74 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 3: of just receivers in the same spot. I see it 75 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: more and more. I saw it several times today and 76 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: one of our guys, Taekwon Thowton, seems to be involved 77 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: with a lot of those those times. 78 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think another just point out athletic play Mike Kasiki, 79 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 4: nice one handed catch along the along the sidelines Gabil 80 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 4: Peppers was funny after practice saying, hey, we got to 81 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 4: go to the table. 82 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: We'll see if he came down with it. 83 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: But but a real nice athletic play from Kasiki. I 84 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 4: thought had a couple you know, starting to maybe I 85 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 4: don't want to say overstated, probably best practice. 86 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, start to. 87 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: Stand out a little bit, and you know, starting to 88 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: show some of that, you know, just kind of unique 89 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: body type athleticism that he has. So I think that's 90 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: you know, good sign that that he's starting to show 91 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: a little bit too. 92 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. On the interception for Gonzalez, it was Kaishan Boudi 93 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 5: and to Mario Douglas in the same area, two rookie receivers. 94 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 5: You think maybe there was a little bit of a 95 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 5: miscommunication or they ended up too close to each other. 96 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 5: Like Paul was saying, it looked like it was a 97 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 5: post wheel, and you would just sort of like to 98 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 5: see Douglas clear it out a little bit more, you know, 99 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 5: and that up the field and get out of the 100 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 5: picture a little bit faster than he did. But I 101 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 5: think what's interesting about Gonzales is that we've seen him 102 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 5: make some more plays on the ball, whereas last week 103 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 5: it felt like he just was a little bit of 104 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 5: a tick slow at the anticipation when the ball was 105 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 5: coming his direction and he was around the area. It 106 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 5: wasn't like he was getting burned, but he wasn't making 107 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 5: plays on the football. Today he started making some plays 108 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 5: on the ball. But one positive I did think from 109 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 5: the offense, that forty yard pass from Mac Jones to 110 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 5: DeVante Parker was the highlight of the day. 111 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 2: And boy, it's what he does. Yes, that's what he do. Yeah. 112 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 5: But I thought it was progress because you know, last 113 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 5: week we saw Mac Jones Devonte Parker split two safeties 114 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 5: a corner in a safety excuse me, on a deep 115 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 5: post and Mac tried to lead him into the back 116 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 5: of the end zone and Parker's just not fast enough 117 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 5: to catch up to the football. So this time he 118 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 5: just put it on a silver platter for him over 119 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 5: Jack Jones and allowed Devonte Parker to go up and 120 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 5: climb the ladder and pluck the ball out of the air. 121 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 5: That's how he's going to win. He had Jack Jones 122 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 5: on his back throwing him or leading him into the 123 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 5: end zone. That causes him to have to catch up 124 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 5: to the football instead of just high pointing it and 125 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 5: doing what he does best. So I like that little 126 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 5: bit of progress with the chemistry that he's now throwing 127 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 5: it to a spot for DeVante Parker versus trying to 128 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 5: lead him into the end zone. 129 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 130 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: I would agree that was clearly the play of the day, 131 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 3: and it was kind of like a two minute drill 132 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: and I think it was one of those, you know, 133 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 3: sort of desperation kind of plays, but the execution was 134 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: really good. 135 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 136 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 5: You know, there was like thirteen seconds left on the clock. Yeah, 137 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 5: Mac had just spiked it to stop the clock. Maybe 138 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 5: they were down four, Maybe that was the situation. 139 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: And you know, I think you're right, and I think 140 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: it may not have had to be in the end zone. 141 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: That's well, like a lot of times those plays like, well, 142 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 3: you know, they just kind of throw it up there 143 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: and one day they're supposed to catch it. 144 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: One day the defense is supposed to knock it down. 145 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 3: But this play I thought actually was pretty close to normal, 146 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: like a real play. And you know, again, depending on 147 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 3: which side you're you're hoping looks good, it's good play 148 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: for the offense, not such a good play for Jack Jones, 149 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 3: but yeah, it was. It was definitely the play of 150 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 3: the day. Mike, you have you don't have to raise 151 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 3: your hand, Mike, you can just make open. 152 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 4: And I I just thought I wanted to make sure 153 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 4: we mentioned Jonathan Jones was missing from practice. 154 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: So Ti Montgomery, Matthew Slater, Jonathan Jones, David Andrews cole 155 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: strange with a five that we're not seeing interesting with 156 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: Jones and Slater did not dress for the in stadium 157 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: practice Friday night. You wonder if Bill's just sort of 158 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 3: given those guys an extended veteran kind of rest. I 159 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 3: don't know or or I'm not aware of anything that 160 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 3: Jonathan Jones or Slater is dealing with, but you know, well, 161 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: we'll keep an eye on it. The next two days 162 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: was kind. 163 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: Of a theme. 164 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 5: Guys gets here and there, we're getting into the into 165 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 5: the real, the real dreads of training camp. Now I 166 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 5: don't like that other phrase, so I'm trying to think 167 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 5: of a different phrase, the dog days. You don't like dogs. Yeah, 168 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 5: that's why I don't like dog days. That's doors because 169 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 5: it makes you half dogs. No, I just I don't know. 170 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 5: I feel like there's a negative contation. 171 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: One other thing that I that I noticed, and I 172 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: don't have anything, Well, two things I should say. The 173 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: defense at one point I think was guilty of maybe 174 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: not being on the same page substitution and wise Bill 175 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: sent the entire defense for a lap, So that was, 176 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: you know, sort of noteworthy. But the other thing, and 177 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: I don't know have any idea what it means or 178 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: what they were talking about. But Bill Belichick and Bill 179 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: O'Brien spent I saw that about ten minutes after practice, 180 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: maybe more, just the two of them talking at length. 181 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: So I don't know. Maybe it's like, you know, you 182 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: call that an offense. 183 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: I do think that's how the conversation goes. 184 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 5: I'm not trying we have no idea what was no 185 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 5: So that's why I'm not trying to speculate. But you 186 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 5: mentioned at the beginning that there was a little bit 187 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 5: more of receivers on top of each other and spacing 188 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 5: issues today and timing issues today. And you do wonder 189 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 5: if he said to hey, they were talking about, Hey, 190 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 5: let's not let these bad habits become regular habits. Right 191 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 5: Like we saw a little bit of this today. We 192 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 5: had were really on a good upward trajectory last week, 193 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 5: you know, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, I looked like strong practices 194 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 5: or Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, I should say, let's not let 195 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 5: this creep in where all of a sudden, we're letting 196 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 5: this stuff go because we got a couple good days 197 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 5: of practice. 198 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: Mike anything else, No, I'm good. I think I just 199 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: clocked in. 200 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 4: Marcus Jones was out there, you know, getting reps again 201 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 4: on the outside kind of for Jonathan Jones. 202 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: So this is kind of a rotation that they're doing. 203 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 4: No Jack Jones really out there, so it's between him 204 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: Miles Bryant. They're kind of just experimenting with those two guys. 205 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: But hopefully Jonathan Jones is back soon. 206 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: I think he's imporn. 207 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: Piece way down to two more training camp podcasts that 208 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: we have Monday Tuesday, the final two days that the 209 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: public will be allowed into practice. 210 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: So it's like basically two weeks and. 211 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: That's all she wrote. So we will be back tomorrow 212 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: with Day eleven.