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Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos.

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Speaker 1: This week we have one of the Selling Sunset castmates

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Speaker 1: joining us, Mary Bonnett. Welcome to Casual Chaos.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: So excited to have you. My boyfriend and I actually

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Speaker 1: were addicted to Selling Sunset forever and we binge watched

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Speaker 1: it and now I can't believe season nine is out.

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Speaker 2: I know, right, time is flown by.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. I feel like once you're part of like

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Speaker 1: an ensemble show and then the season's just passed by,

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Speaker 1: You're like, how did we get here?

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Speaker 2: Uh huh? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I still remember in the beginning when we thought, oh well, no,

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Speaker 3: we're successful if we ever make it to season three,

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Speaker 3: like that's when you know, and here we are going

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Speaker 3: on going on ten pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: No, that's incredible. How quick is your turnaround time? Like,

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Speaker 1: you what do you guys, like, what does a normal

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Speaker 1: season look like?

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Speaker 3: Well, now we do four and a half months, approximately

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Speaker 3: four and a.

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Speaker 2: Half months of filming.

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Speaker 3: We used to do back to back episodes or back

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Speaker 3: to back seasons and just have two weeks off in between.

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Speaker 3: But as you can imagine, it is absolutely brutal. We

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Speaker 3: just there's not enough time for us to do stuff

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Speaker 3: in our normal lives. Absolutely, okay, So yeah, so we

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Speaker 3: do four and a half months and then and then

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Speaker 3: now we get about three months off.

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Speaker 2: This season, the turnaround time.

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Speaker 3: Was very slow because we were supposed to air I

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Speaker 3: believe it was in August, and I don't know something

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Speaker 3: on the Netflix side where Stranger Things or something.

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Speaker 2: There was something with Stranger Things that got delayed. So

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Speaker 2: then they wanted.

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Speaker 3: They had to push ours because launch date something like that.

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Speaker 3: So we got delayed a couple months.

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Speaker 1: Got it? Yeah, okay, yeah, Wow, that's crazy that you

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Speaker 1: guys would go back to back. That's like way too much.

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Speaker 1: Because my mom obviously has been on Real Housewives in

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Speaker 1: New Jersey for years, like fifth over fifteen years, so

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Speaker 1: probably film in the filming because we film three months

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Speaker 1: out of the year. So then when you add on,

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Speaker 1: like you know, time that passed that you didn't film,

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Speaker 1: Like my mom's probably been in this world for like

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Speaker 1: almost twenty years. And then I recently just started filming

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Speaker 1: my own show on Bravo called Next Gen NYC. And

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Speaker 1: the film times are pretty standard, Like the timeline, it's

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Speaker 1: three months of filming and then you have six months off.

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Speaker 3: So oh okay, okay, well that's I wish we had

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Speaker 3: a normal timeline.

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Speaker 2: We just never know. We're just we just do what

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Speaker 2: they say. No.

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Speaker 1: This season, we were introduced to Sandra Vigara, who is

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Speaker 1: Sophia Vegara's sister. What is she like and what does

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Speaker 1: she add to the season that you didn't have before?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Well, so I love Sandra.

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Speaker 3: She has just she's got just the most amazing heart

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Speaker 3: and and she is so funny.

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Speaker 2: I mean, she's if you guys can.

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Speaker 3: Imagine like Sophia Begar, like her boys, her like outgoing

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Speaker 3: personality and everything. But but then Sandra's just like she

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Speaker 2: Speaks her mind.

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Speaker 3: But she's she's just a heart of gold, very thoughtful,

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Speaker 3: just a good friend.

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Speaker 2: She and I come quite close.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and she adds a lot like where she's very vocal,

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Speaker 3: so which is good.

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Speaker 2: They didn't start her until episode six, I.

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Speaker 3: Think, but she was actually filming with us for a

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Speaker 1: So interesting. How many episodes do you typically have in

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Speaker 2: Can I think, Okay, yeah, so she was.

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Speaker 4: She wasn't a part of it for that long.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I know, well she was with us, she was, but

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Speaker 3: they just with editing, they just left her out until episodes.

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Speaker 1: You really never know what happens in the editing room.

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Speaker 1: It's so scary, right, There's been a lot of drama

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Speaker 1: this season between close friends and within relationships. Have you

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's been brutal. You know. Editing was not my

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Speaker 1: They pick and choose, right, they pick and choose who

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Like, normally I can watch it and

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's more dramatic than like, because you know, there's

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Speaker 3: edit it down to just the.

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Speaker 2: Most ridiculous and outgoing part.

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Speaker 3: Just where it's I don't know, I would watch it now.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, that does not give context to what really happens.

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Speaker 3: And so I'm a bit frustrated with the editing. But

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Speaker 3: we know it's possible for it to happen and hopefully

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Speaker 3: people can read between the lines.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so frustrating, you know, because I think when

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Speaker 1: and that's the whole point of like growing throughout reality

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Speaker 1: TV is of course, we can't control what happens in

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Speaker 1: the editing room. It's all up to the network. But

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Speaker 1: what I have learned within these past like within this

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Speaker 1: past year, I would say now that I am on

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Speaker 1: my own show and I'm not just you know, on

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Speaker 1: a show supporting my mom. It's funny because you have

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Speaker 1: to own it a little bit about what you say.

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Speaker 1: And that's something that I obviously learned. Okay, yes, I

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Speaker 1: totally understand that I did say that because obviously they

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Speaker 1: put words into my mouth in the editing room, right,

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Speaker 1: and one of.

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Speaker 2: Those things it's like anything you say and do can

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Speaker 2: and we'll be used against.

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Speaker 4: And in the court of claw in the editing room,

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Speaker 3: H Yeah, but like yes, yeah, like you said, it's like, yes,

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Speaker 3: I said that, but that does not give context.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but like the part before that, and the part

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Speaker 1: after that, and maybe the fifteen other events that occurred

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Speaker 1: that led me up to this point, exactly what you're

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 3: I watch it and I'm like, oh my god, I

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Speaker 3: would never cry over flowers.

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Speaker 2: I would never like it's like I'd be like, that's random.

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Speaker 2: I'd be like no. And I would never cry over

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Speaker 3: Robbed and I was just like I wasn't sleeping much

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Speaker 1: And then you know again, like you just said, like

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Speaker 1: you weren't sleeping a lot, Like it's so important to

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Speaker 1: Like I think it's you know, it's funny when you're

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Speaker 1: and it's so scary when like you're like, whoa, I

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Speaker 3: Back, and yeah, yeah, I just did that actually too.

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Speaker 2: Cool because when I was sleeping, it was right after

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Speaker 3: They were so robberies did in the neighborhood every single night,

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Speaker 2: Young families and everything.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's texting you said like, wait, there's a car outside kids,

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Speaker 3: So I go, like call it SI.

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Speaker 2: I know we were all still.

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Speaker 1: But of course, I mean, yea, my, my, my, one

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Speaker 4: But just a simple mistake.

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Speaker 1: You know, we we have a gate in front of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it shakes you a bit, and just like your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, all right, let's aamp it up.

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Speaker 4: You do the security camera.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we did.

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Speaker 3: You know, we went through We hardwired everything, like because

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this little guy was missing when we got

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean we've gotten back obviously, but.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know your puppies like your life, all

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Speaker 1: She's like my life too. She's with me with like

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Speaker 1: Can you speak on Chrishelle and Emma's feud? Do you

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Speaker 1: think there will be any sort of reconciliation soon?

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Speaker 2: No? They will not. No, I don't know. I know.

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Speaker 1: I felt like they were like literally two peas in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really know what's going on with Chrishell

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Speaker 3: right now. I mean I've always loved her and always will,

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Speaker 3: but I don't know what's happening because I mean it's

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Speaker 3: going after and I'm like, what's going on right now?

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Speaker 3: Like when were people not cool? Like I like, no

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Speaker 3: I hope she's doing okay, Like I hope that she

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Speaker 3: I I'm confused by it, I think like everybody.

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Speaker 1: Else, Yeah, that's yes. Maybe. I mean it's hard because

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Speaker 1: You had a lot going on, your house got robbed,

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Speaker 1: you were dealing with so much. Again you said you

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Speaker 2: So it's just how what's going to happen. I don't

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Speaker 2: Now, so like, really, I'm so proud of you. You're not.

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Speaker 3: I have a mocktails like so it looks right to

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, can you see yourself saying sober for a while.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just like not doing it, like really just

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah I should drink.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm I don't like putting limits on

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Speaker 4: Screw it. I'm gonna get hammerd tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I know.

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Speaker 3: It's like, wait, I'm not allowed to guess I can

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Speaker 4: Such a better start to your day.

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00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then you know I'm forty five now, So

446
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 3: I'm just my body is it's not as young a

447
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 3: vibrant as it used to be, and so I just

448
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 3: wanted to try to take care of it possible.

449
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: Now I totally get that.

450
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 4: So let's talk about you and Roman.

451
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: Obviously we know that there is an age gap, but

452
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: how did the two of you meet?

453
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 4: Because he is like I love his accent.

454
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: I've loved watching him on selling Sunset. I'm like, oh,

455
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: I get why she's attracted to him.

456
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 4: I mean even throughout, like just even.

457
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: Throughout life, whenever anybody has an accent, I'm just like, oh, sorry, nice.

458
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's such a good guy. We met for uh

459
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 3: in business. Really, I went and picked him up one

460
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 3: of his boss. He came over from Paris and his

461
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 3: boss was a friend of a friends and so they said, hey,

462
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 3: can you help like this guy out. He's coming to

463
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 3: work for us to find a place. So we were

464
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 3: I was living with a guy for about two years

465
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 3: and we just broke up, and so I like during

466
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 3: his time when Romaine and I we were talking about

467
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 3: like coming over and what was he looking for and

468
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 3: stuff like that, I never looked.

469
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: At his picture because I was dating this other guy.

470
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 3: You know, living with them, but unfortunately they got cheated

471
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 3: and so we broke up, and and and.

472
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: I was living I moved.

473
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 3: In with Christine and and for just it was supposed

474
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 3: to be temperary.

475
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 2: And then we got along so well, we're like, okay,

476
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: let's just be room. Yeah, and so yeah, we we

477
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: He hopped in my car. I had to pick him up.

478
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 2: He hopped in my car, and I was just like, oh, hello.

479
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: And then I went back and I looked at the photo. No,

480
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: his picture was there the whole time. I just never

481
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: looked at it. And uh. And then we just got

482
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 2: along so well.

483
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 3: It was like I would say, the first time we

484
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 3: were in the car together, it felt like we knew

485
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: each other forever, Like it was so comfortable, even in

486
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 3: that like nervous, like oh my.

487
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: God, you're sodium hot like vibe.

488
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 3: I'm like I I was still, it felt like we

489
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: had known each other forever.

490
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: We just had like this chemistry.

491
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: And we started dating within about a week, moved in

492
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 3: together in about three months, and.

493
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: Legally got married about within six months.

494
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, the rest is history. How is Romaane with your

495
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: son Austin.

496
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 2: Oh, he's so good. He's like they get along.

497
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 4: Really really well, I'm just amazing.

498
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like a father figure kind of thing.

499
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: They're like like all my friends are like we're all family,

500
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: but they have a really good relationship.

501
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: He can talk to them. And if I'm like a

502
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, on a five years ago or so,

503
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 2: I was like, oh.

504
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: My god, Austin is so bad at at like communicating

505
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 3: like texting back and stuff.

506
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: And he's like, it's just what guys do. So he

507
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 2: texted me, He's like, bro, hey, respond to your mom

508
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: because I know what there's when you don't.

509
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 3: And and he's like, oh, sorry about that, and so

510
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: like in all like so, I mean at first I

511
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: was like I don't want like any involvement stuff, but

512
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: Jason has been like this mentor kind of thing.

513
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: And Austin just loves like all of my like Remain and.

514
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 3: Jason and everybody, all all of our friends in our

515
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: life and stuff.

516
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 2: We're like just like a family. Yeah.

517
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they Yeah, they get along great. We're gonna

518
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: see him next week.

519
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: Actually I love that.

520
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

521
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: Your memoir Selling Sunshine gets really personal. What made you

522
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: open up and so much an honest way.

523
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 3: Well, every time I have talked about things that have

524
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,239
Speaker 3: happened in my life.

525
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: There's been a really good response.

526
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 3: It's helped people, and so kind of one of the

527
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 3: things that I wanted to do. You know, you can't

528
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 3: change things that have happened, and and there's unfortunately, my

529
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: life is pretty full of a lot of like tragedy

530
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: kind of type events, and I want to make it

531
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: turn a negative into a positive basically, and and have

532
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: my story or or the way I survived it or

533
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 3: whatever helped people or make them feel like they're not alone.

534
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 2: Just give them hope.

535
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: I love that. That's so sweet. What's something that you

536
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: shared in your book that even your close friends were

537
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: surprised to read.

538
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember if all of it's in there.

539
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 4: You're like, actually, guys, I left some things out.

540
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: You thought it was juicy, but I I.

541
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: Don't know if a lot of them knew.

542
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: I was like.

543
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: That I had a couple like of like the just

544
00:27:52,640 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 3: a random, like groopy hookups I crackitated and that from

545
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: LFO and stuff. I was like, I don't know, okay,

546
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 3: because I can't remember who I told this story because

547
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: I had a ghostwriter and I told my story with

548
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: everything and something's got cut out, and I was like, no,

549
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: this has to be in and then and then other

550
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: things like you know, we left out if it if

551
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 3: it anything impacted anybody close to me, and it wasn't

552
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 3: really my story to tell, even though it impacted my

553
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 3: life a lot, I left it out. You know. I

554
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 3: tried to preserve people's privacy as much as possible. And

555
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 3: I also changed the names and the book to I'm

556
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: not out to get anybody, like you.

557
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: Know, it's honestly really smart, you know, just to change

558
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: the names, not out anybody, not make anybody feel uncomfortable.

559
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: Sure maybe, like you know, readers can can figure out

560
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: this is about something I wanted something, but it's all assumption.

561
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: So at least you're like, well, I never said it.

562
00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: This is Giselle.

563
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 4: I know, I have no idea, right like I.

564
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: You know, it's a I'm kind of in my life.

565
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 3: Someone's name doesn't affect it one way or the other.

566
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I'm not trying to get back at

567
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: in body or I'm not trying to like hurt anybody.

568
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: It's your story and also some stories that people that

569
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: people say to you or things that have happened to you.

570
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: Even though if it's somebody else's story. Like everything impacts

571
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 1: impacts a person, So even if it was somebody else's story,

572
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: but it like connected with you in any way.

573
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 4: It's totally like I love that you did that.

574
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.

575
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: But you've been very open about your fertility journey and

576
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: what made you feel like, Okay, this is the right

577
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: like this is the right thing to bring public.

578
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: Well, I couldn't really avoid it, like first of all,

579
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: because when we were filming the show, I was going

580
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: through the miscarriage and then I kind of feel like, well,

581
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: now when it was happening, and it really took me down,

582
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: and it was going to be very obvious what happened,

583
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: and I made the mistake in hindsight of well, maybe.

584
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: Not a mistake because it did help a lot of people.

585
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: But I announced it before it was it was in

586
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 3: like the safe zone basically, and so you know, I

587
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 3: already announced it. I was just I mean, I went

588
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 3: through a bit of depression when it happened, and it

589
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: was going to be obvious like anyway, and so and

590
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 3: at the time, I just I'm such an open book.

591
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: When something happens, I just like talk about it, and

592
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: then afterwards I'm like, why did I feel the need

593
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: to share that.

594
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 3: I was like, it was it, but I'm just kind

595
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: of an open book like that. But afterwards I realized

596
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: how much it helped people like I would. I was

597
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: in like New Orleans and this man came up to

598
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: me and he was like, I just have to say

599
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: thank you so much. He's like, nothing would console my wife,

600
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: Like she's got been through so many miscarriages.

601
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: Nothing that would console my wife.

602
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 3: He's like, and she was going to like her fifth miscarriage,

603
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: and she was watching your show and it made her

604
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: feel better.

605
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: It's the one thing that got her out of bed.

606
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, I started crying.

607
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: And I was like, so, you know, I've had so

608
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 3: many stories like this where it's like women don't talk

609
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: about it.

610
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: They feel shameful, I know.

611
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: And there's still so much of a stigma just around

612
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: for her fertility struggles. Like what do you wish people

613
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: would stop saying or assuming?

614
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: Well, you know, at this point, I think I just

615
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: try not to talk about too much when like when

616
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: people I keep saying like, you know, so are you

617
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: still trying? Are you so like you can still do

618
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: this and stuff, I'm like yeah, there's so much to

619
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 3: it that, like I would have to have a surgery

620
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: because I have a septom in my in the middle

621
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: of my uterus that they found, which is why I've

622
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: had so many misscarriages.

623
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: So I have to have a surgery.

624
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: And then you have to have all the healing time

625
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: and because then it leaves to gar tissue, which also

626
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: and then I'm forty five. The egg quality isn't well.

627
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: The last time we did egg retrieval there were none.

628
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: They came up they were viable for the embryos. So yeah,

629
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: the chances are not good. So you know, and when

630
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: people put out like, oh, she's pregnant. If I ate

631
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: a big meal, oh she's pregnant, that the stories start going.

632
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, guys, come on, this is her phone enough flag.

633
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's also your life. It's also what

634
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: you're what you're putting your body through, what you're up,

635
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: what you're up for in that moment, Like, of course,

636
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: is the goal at the end of the day to

637
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: have a baby, Yes, thank you, but this is also

638
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: my body in my life. And yeah, each like each

639
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: of these processes obviously take a take a toll.

640
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely they were. There were a few.

641
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 3: Of the scenes I think from the show where I

642
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 3: was on the hormone injections and everything like that, and

643
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: I'm like.

644
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: Wow, I was like okay, and I saw like we're

645
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: crying about something and it looked like it was something different.

646
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: I was like, well, yeah, I was a bit more emotional,

647
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: but I was like shooting like up all like the

648
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 3: stuff too.

649
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: And people don't know that. God, that girl cries a lot.

650
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: Like so a lot of hormones going on in this body,

651
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: you know.

652
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 8: But yeah, so I'm off of them now, like just

653
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 8: you know, and Romaine is so supportive and just he's

654
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 8: just so loving and understanding about everything.

655
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: And this little guy he calls him his son. So so.

656
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: You know, I think we're kind of at this point

657
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 3: we just we just know it is what it is.

658
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: I don't think either of us. Yeah, we also don't

659
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: really talk about it. I think it is just is

660
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: what it is.

661
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: And we love our doggies and that's what our life

662
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: is going to be. We love to travel, so we're

663
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: just looking at the positive so on on what not

664
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: having a baby allows us, like things that you sacrifice

665
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Speaker 3: for children and stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's like, well, we're yeah, just looking as positive, no.

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Speaker 4: And I mean that is so positive.

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Speaker 1: I mean traveling and seeing the world and not having

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Speaker 1: to worry about a babysitter or going out to dinner.

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Speaker 4: There's some perks.

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Speaker 2: There are some perks, there are some so yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: can changed. You can't change what you can't.

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Speaker 1: Change, of course, you know, and you two love each

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Speaker 1: other and as long as you guys love your life

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Speaker 1: together and make each other happy, that's all that matters.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure. Obviously Romayne sees your efforts and see what

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Speaker 1: you've put your body through, and you guys know your

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Speaker 1: answer at.

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Speaker 4: The end of the day, and that's all that matters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What advice would you give to women who feel like

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Speaker 1: they have to choose between career success and personal happiness?

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Speaker 3: Ooh, there's a fine balance. And I think I think

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Speaker 3: when you start feeling your body. I'm not good at

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Speaker 3: putting limits on myself.

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Speaker 2: I go zero to one hundred and I work myself

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Speaker 2: into the ground. And so I'm not a good example.

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Speaker 3: Of that because I just I go, go, go until

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Speaker 3: my body physically gives out. And I'm trying to be

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Speaker 3: more mindful of that because at the end of the

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Speaker 3: day if you're not happy, Like career success, it gives

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Speaker 3: you a lot of sense of achievement and it proposed

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Speaker 3: you in many ways. But don't put all your eggs

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Speaker 3: in one basket because it's like before you know it,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna like turn around when you're like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: like I've wasted like this much time. As far as

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Speaker 3: like like having a family and doing different things, it's

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Speaker 3: like and just finding your mate when you're so hyper focused.

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Speaker 3: I mean, teach their own if that's what you really

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Speaker 3: really want, but just remember time flights by and and

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Speaker 3: there's a it's good to have balance.

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Speaker 2: I still work and struggle on that every day, like by,

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Speaker 2: but I think it's very very important because if.

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Speaker 3: You're your personal happiness affects your business as well, and

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00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: your business success that affects your personal happiness, so it's

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Speaker 3: like they work together, and it's just finding that balance

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Speaker 3: that works for you.

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Speaker 2: It's different for everybody, but what works for you.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree. You need to give your body the

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Speaker 1: time to recharge and rest. So if you can be

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Speaker 1: a successful business woman and also just maintain your happiness

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Speaker 1: and take care of your body, that's the perfect balance.

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Speaker 4: But that's a little easier, easier said than done, for sure.

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Speaker 1: What's something you've learned about yourself in the last year

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Speaker 1: that surprised you.

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00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: My inner strength?

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Speaker 3: I I mean, I know I've always been a very strong,

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00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: kind of strong willed person, but the I and I'm

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Speaker 3: self critical more than I mean, all all these internet

720
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Speaker 3: rolls like they've got nothing on me. They're brutal, but

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Speaker 3: it's like I'm constantly watching and analyzing and judging myself, like.

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Speaker 2: On a okay, is this the right thing? And and

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Speaker 2: what kind of person am I?

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Speaker 3: Like if I do or say something, I'm like, I

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00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: judge myself like harshly on things that I say in

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00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: you in a way oh well, but I.

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Speaker 2: Think it makes I think it makes me a better

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Speaker 2: person though, Like.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everyone, you're very you're very self aware, which

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Speaker 1: is you know, which is a great thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I mean almost a fault where I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I have to be more mindful of empathy suicide because

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Speaker 3: I really like I just feel for everybody, and I

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Speaker 3: go sound for everybody, and that I'm like, I.

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Speaker 2: Need to take a step back and just focus on myself.

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Speaker 3: And and I think I'm just very proud of myself

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Speaker 3: before It's been a lot, and and the amount of.

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Speaker 2: Chaos that has been going on around and just.

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Speaker 3: My ability to just sit back and just remain centered,

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Speaker 3: remember who I am.

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Speaker 6: And and not engage or lash, lash out or or

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Speaker 6: or when people hit low, I'm not going to hit

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Speaker 6: lower like I'm like, no, I'm going to take dirope.

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Speaker 2: And so I think my my strength being able to

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Speaker 2: do that, I think is one of the most friend.

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Speaker 1: Of I love that.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: Mary, thank you so much for coming on casual Chaos.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for having me have the best

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Speaker 1: day you think a book, a vacation, enjoying a show,