WEBVTT - We’re Gonna Make It

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<v Speaker 1>Wind down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I have things to say, but I first want to

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<v Speaker 1>check in with you guys, because Catherine, you went through

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<v Speaker 1>something really scary again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what the heck? I know, I'm crazy. Really just

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<v Speaker 2>a long story short. I mean a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>heard about this, but we're in I don't care about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was I didn't see it on the news everywhere, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, Dallas Huge cheer competition. It's like thirty to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand people. We competed. The night before, we were

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<v Speaker 2>getting ready to compete. Second day, we got a text

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<v Speaker 2>from a group that says, if you're not here, don't

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<v Speaker 2>come because there's an active shooter. We're I know, We're

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<v Speaker 2>across the street at the hotel and I'm like, let

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<v Speaker 2>me check. You know, the girls are almost ready about

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<v Speaker 2>to go downstairs. I'm like, they're not really, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you just see like a sea of people running. So

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<v Speaker 2>I went downstairs. People were coming into our thing. Long

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<v Speaker 2>story short, same they're saying, kind of same situation. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a fight, you know, but people were these thirty

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<v Speaker 2>to fifty thousand people were fleeing like there was an active shooter.

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<v Speaker 2>People were saying active shooter, and people are very much

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<v Speaker 2>claiming that they heard gunshots. The police are saying that

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<v Speaker 2>there were not. I'm trying not to. We had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of good friends there. We had a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>good friends with their kids. A lot of good friends

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<v Speaker 2>separated from their kids, and that was a really scary

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<v Speaker 2>part of it. But what's been really interesting is the

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<v Speaker 2>people that were there that thought that they heard gunshots.

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<v Speaker 2>You could not convince them right now that there was

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<v Speaker 2>no active shooter.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's creepy.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's crazy because they're just so I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to say convinced, you know, but they are so

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<v Speaker 2>convinced they heard gunshots and rounds of it. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Some they hid in closets, they barricaded things, You had coaches,

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<v Speaker 2>you had people just grabbing kids because so many kids

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<v Speaker 2>are without parents, had a cheercomp like they just get well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're with coaches, they're on stage, they're backstage,

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<v Speaker 2>all the things, barricaded, all the things. And then a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people that ran out then they say they

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<v Speaker 2>heard more rounds outside. Then they kind of ran back in.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, it was very traumatizing for a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people crazy how it seems to be about the same

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<v Speaker 2>situation that we went through. We luckily were not there,

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot of people were very traumatized by the situation.

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<v Speaker 2>But they went on and they competed the next day,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was really proud of all the girls. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we had a lot that were really really traumatized by it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was tough. But luckily everybody's okay, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>no evidence that there was an active shooter. Luckily people

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<v Speaker 2>did get hurt from like stampedes and stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like getting also just over these are little kids, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well in are coaches. Like talking to some of the coaches,

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<v Speaker 2>like who didn't even even have some of their own kids, right,

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<v Speaker 2>or they like were like I just scooped up kids

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<v Speaker 2>because they're all just so and like where's my mom?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like there's just it's hard to explain how

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<v Speaker 2>many people and it makes you think how you handle

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<v Speaker 2>this in the future, Like, you know, the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend, I didn't just drop her off at the

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<v Speaker 2>team room and leave, you know, because that's what you

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<v Speaker 2>usually do. Like we all stayed and we all stayed

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<v Speaker 2>real close to our kids.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was a while before parents could pick up kids.

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<v Speaker 2>There were there were two very specific kids I know

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<v Speaker 2>that were like missing for a while, but they had

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<v Speaker 2>like a location where they like were like if you

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<v Speaker 2>they kept sending alerts over your phone, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like amber alerts essentially, and it said go here to

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<v Speaker 2>rehome families and stuff. But everyone was found, everybody, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but very scary for those kids that you know and

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<v Speaker 2>parents that were there and dealing with it.

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<v Speaker 3>And but everyone was okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone I know is of some people got like a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit hurt, like legs and stuff like that, but yes,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone was okay. No evidence of a shooter.

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<v Speaker 1>So my goodness, I know, isn't that crazy? Well, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just yeah scary. Yeah, sorry to mess things

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<v Speaker 1>up though, ladies. I started my period five days early.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I know, well, maybe you'll make me go

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<v Speaker 2>ahead and start that's but it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just all makes sense because I went. It was one

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<v Speaker 1>of those two where I I usually get really sleepy

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<v Speaker 1>before a period. Same and obviously agitated and annoyed the

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<v Speaker 1>world is the sky is falling, crying for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>no reason. I even had a moment where the other

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<v Speaker 1>day I was being huffy and I knew I was

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<v Speaker 1>in the wrong, so I was working out. Alan was

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<v Speaker 1>working out outside, and it was one of those where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I know, I need to apologize.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just like walked out.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I'm sorry, you know, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>all they really need, you know, It's just the acknowledgment.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, I really don't know what's

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<v Speaker 1>wrong because this is weird. I'm nine days out from

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<v Speaker 1>my period, Like this doesn't make sense. So usually it's

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<v Speaker 1>like seven days out or eight days out or like no,

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<v Speaker 1>or like five days.

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<v Speaker 3>Out and then all of a sudden boom. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>so on this morning, I was like, babe, I figured

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<v Speaker 3>it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I wanted to tell him this time because I

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<v Speaker 1>needed the reason for my like huffiness, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I started my period five days early, and I was like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to bring drama to the couch today.

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<v Speaker 2>On wine Down, we usually don't want to tell him

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<v Speaker 2>because we don't want to like give them the satisfaction

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<v Speaker 2>of like, oh, you were cranking as you were starting

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<v Speaker 2>your period.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, I think calls it out now.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but I was having like, you guys, I

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<v Speaker 1>posted this so Jolie had Western day and so I

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<v Speaker 1>posted a photo of her wearing my fringey. I go, oh, Jolie,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got this you know fringe thing that I used

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<v Speaker 1>to wear on stage. Yeah, and uh, and then I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd become cute. Maybe look back in some photos, you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I went on such a deep dive, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>such an em like an emotional rollercoaster that I actually

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<v Speaker 1>I cried and I got depressed. Oh, because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what if that's it? Like what if I live? Because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like what I said in there was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I I Everything I said was you know true, like

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<v Speaker 1>I miss it and I'm so happy that I got

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<v Speaker 1>to actually live a dream out in real life. But

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<v Speaker 1>that dream is over, and I feel like it hit

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<v Speaker 1>me in such a an emotional way where I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>that that's it and it's over, and it it really

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<v Speaker 1>messed me up. And it was the same day that

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<v Speaker 1>you called me crying. I'm on my floor crying, And

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<v Speaker 1>what you didn't know is I wasn't. I didn't tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that I was crying when you called crying, No,

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<v Speaker 1>and you go, what's the matter we have?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like I'm just emotional and You're like okay, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, so I didn't want to say, but

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<v Speaker 1>I crying too, Yeah, but I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I think I'm a liar because we

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<v Speaker 3>had a talk and I was telling you that we

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<v Speaker 3>had the talk in Chicago. We even talked about it

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<v Speaker 3>on here and was like about being content and we

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<v Speaker 3>feel so good in our lives, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't mean to lie, but I think a lot

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not content. I was like, I think I just

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<v Speaker 3>haven't had time to dream. And now I get emotional

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm like, is it I mean, like I did

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<v Speaker 3>radio and road rules and all these things and.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm but it was like the same moment, same

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<v Speaker 1>thing of like it literally in that same moment, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I had, you know, just been crying about it,

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<v Speaker 1>posted it and she's feeling that and I've been thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about that a lot lately too, And I think Alan

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<v Speaker 1>is a piece of struggle with that too, where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like he coached on some of the biggest teams, being

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<v Speaker 1>on the England national team and you know, and did this,

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<v Speaker 1>that and the other, and it's like, did.

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<v Speaker 3>We already live.

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<v Speaker 1>The dream that we you know, inspired, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>it changes and there's seasons of it all and there's

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<v Speaker 1>new dreams and there's new things. But maybe that was

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<v Speaker 1>the top of what that was, and it was just

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<v Speaker 1>like it hit really hard and it hurt, and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like it and it made me super sad.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, And I also think what is most relatable is

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<v Speaker 3>that we've all like stepped back in some aspect to

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<v Speaker 3>raise families or to be moms or to pour into

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<v Speaker 3>our families differently, even if you're not a mom yet

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<v Speaker 3>or never want to be women kind of there's this

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<v Speaker 3>like natural trajectory that we go on where sometimes you

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<v Speaker 3>just dial it back and certain things slowed to be

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<v Speaker 3>the priority. And I feel like we've done a really

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<v Speaker 3>good job of that for a really long time, and

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<v Speaker 3>also miss a lot of parts of that. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I've played very supportive role in Preston's we

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<v Speaker 3>are flying right now. It feels awesome and that's incredible,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's another thing on his bucket list right and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the most involved I've ever been, So that's exciting

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<v Speaker 3>and empowering, but still it's not mine, it's ours ish

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<v Speaker 3>you Knoweah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just and It was funny because when I

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<v Speaker 1>got got home from when Jolie got home from school,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, hey, baby girl, look at these photos.

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<v Speaker 1>See like you were wearing the same thing. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, Mommy, can I can I go with you

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<v Speaker 1>on stage next.

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<v Speaker 3>Time you go on stage? And I was like fighting

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<v Speaker 3>chairs and.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, honey, I was like, mommy, Mommy

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<v Speaker 1>said goodbye to the you know that touring side. And

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<v Speaker 1>she's like why, and it's like, well, I was like

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be more with you, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>used to have a crib on the tour bus, and

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<v Speaker 1>and it was I was trying to explain it in

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<v Speaker 1>a way where, you know, I didn't say like I

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<v Speaker 1>gave it up for her, because I wasn't the total

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<v Speaker 1>truth of it. But it was a lot, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and and there was a lot of I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's just it's so I have such like a

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<v Speaker 1>love hate with it because is I there's pieces that

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<v Speaker 1>I loved about touring and pieces that were hard about

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<v Speaker 1>touring and the ones I had Jase, it's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be doing this and.

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<v Speaker 3>What's fair to your children? Yeah? And I like to

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<v Speaker 3>expose them to some things, but they don't need to

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<v Speaker 3>live their life so inconsistently all the time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, anyways, that was just kind of a moment. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, I was, did you guys watch the Oscars? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I've just watched We Are Big Fashion the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>people love Okay, Yeah, I watched the Oscars too, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like Ellen, I know, I know this was

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<v Speaker 1>before it, but I said, I really hope I can

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<v Speaker 1>make it to the Oscars before the in memoriam, the

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<v Speaker 1>what the in memorial.

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<v Speaker 2>You will be? I really believe it. I really believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>My favorite part though, about this phone conversation is that

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<v Speaker 3>Kramer and I will always say we're gonna make it right,

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<v Speaker 3>and we will have been like, you're right, Okay, We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to make it, and it's like and I love you,

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<v Speaker 3>love you too, I love you, I love you too.

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<v Speaker 3>Way too many would make you maybe a little uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 3>and then it stays for like and then we're like okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's it. That portion of the conversation was probably

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<v Speaker 3>half the conversation because I could tell that neither of

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<v Speaker 3>us were ready to like let go of what was

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<v Speaker 3>like the handholding moment on the phone, and we just

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<v Speaker 3>kept going, We're gonna make it right. We are gonna

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<v Speaker 3>make it though right like we do right going back.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just it's a season.

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<v Speaker 3>It's tricky, and I love this season so freaking much.

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<v Speaker 3>I keep telling everyone I'm so in the good old days.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I am. It's incredible, and I don't I

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<v Speaker 3>actually truthfully mean this. I don't have resentment. I just

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<v Speaker 3>also miss me a lot, and I miss like. The

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<v Speaker 3>thing that I love about doing this with you guys

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<v Speaker 3>is that it brings out a part of me that

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<v Speaker 3>was retired for so long. And when we go out

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<v Speaker 3>and have done the wind downs on stage, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>part of me that lives for that too, and that

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<v Speaker 3>can only be filled right there. Yeah, you can't go

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<v Speaker 3>get that anywhere else. So it's really just special.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just so interesting hearing this because I feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously I had I had dreams and started

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<v Speaker 2>working when I wanted to very early, but like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how to say this without it sounding not great,

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<v Speaker 2>but like you have like these really big dreams, not

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<v Speaker 2>to compare dreams, so stay with me here for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>So like these things like you don't feel like you

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this touring life, this acting life. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like I had a dream of like managing these

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<v Speaker 2>people you know or whatever. But like my the other

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<v Speaker 2>side of this is that going. You know, I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like I did what I needed to do and I'm content.

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<v Speaker 2>But now I'm at a point where I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 2>do I do when these kids leap? Like do I

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<v Speaker 2>need a new dream? Do I like dream bigger? Do

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<v Speaker 2>I stay content with just you know, just doing every

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<v Speaker 2>day but without kids or you know, it's that like

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<v Speaker 2>I hear you say that, and then it gives me

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of like, man, do I need bigger dreams?

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<v Speaker 2>Like do I need to think bigger? Do I need

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<v Speaker 2>to strive for bigger or or not? You know, And

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<v Speaker 2>it just makes me start going into my head going

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<v Speaker 2>and I think a lot lot of people who are

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<v Speaker 2>maybe home raising babies or who are just working a

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<v Speaker 2>nine to five that maybe never thought of anything you know,

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<v Speaker 2>more extravagant or more you know, I don't know. It

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<v Speaker 2>just really has me thinking with y'all thinking about that,

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<v Speaker 2>like what do we do when these kids are gone?

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<v Speaker 2>Like do we need new dreams?

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<v Speaker 3>Do we need to move in with them wherever they move, Well, depends.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. That's just see that's where my

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<v Speaker 2>brain go. That's that is where my brain will go

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<v Speaker 2>and start going down the rabbit hole.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know well, And I think that's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>because again the whole comparing people on Instagram, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>when you see this person doing this and then you

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<v Speaker 1>then compare your life to it, going, Okay, is this

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<v Speaker 1>am I supposed.

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<v Speaker 3>To do more?

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<v Speaker 1>Or right?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I supposed to want more?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? And maybe the answers like whatever, what do you want?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? But I guess asterest question for you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>like that a lot of people probably you know, struggle

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<v Speaker 1>with yeah, as we all do. Yeah, and I think everyone, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean honestly, like I know that sounds ridiculous, but like

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<v Speaker 3>the other day, I really wanted to cry, and I

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<v Speaker 3>just was like, there's just no time for that right now,

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<v Speaker 3>like the way I want to cry, Like I can

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<v Speaker 3>start it, but this is a train that won't stop,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I'll just table that. But like you're in

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<v Speaker 3>between cheer and you're running them to this and running

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<v Speaker 3>them to that, and it's like when is that, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know for you, when there's a time to go, No,

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<v Speaker 3>what does it look like ten years from you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you Caden's driving now. I mean it's been

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of days and I'm like, between, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>this is amazing. Like he took himself to the mall

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<v Speaker 2>to go shopping for himself, Like I didn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>do that, Like this is amazing too. Now I spend

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<v Speaker 2>all my time on life three sixty.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, that was a drive that was a risk.

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<v Speaker 4>Tribe, how much phone usage, you know, all the things.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a topic that I wanted to bring up

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<v Speaker 1>in host chat. If you saw an ex in public,

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<v Speaker 1>would you acknowledge them? And what are your thoughts on it?

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<v Speaker 3>I Am going to give you my gut reaction because

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<v Speaker 3>I can't judge what the face is saying, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 3>happened to me, yep, and when completely on a good

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<v Speaker 3>time that I knew, Yeah, yeah, I've only run into

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<v Speaker 3>that person the one time in ten years. And it

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<v Speaker 3>was a really strange feeling because I obviously did not

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<v Speaker 3>expect it at all. I mean I should have because

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<v Speaker 3>we were I was back at home, but I was

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<v Speaker 3>just really, I think I just was really dirty. I

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<v Speaker 3>did acknowledge because I had to. We were face to face,

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<v Speaker 3>like it would have been awkward if I didn't. And

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<v Speaker 3>also I still, you know, do hope he has a

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<v Speaker 3>great life. So it's not like, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>like that Charlotte moment in Sex and the City. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like I cursed the day you were born. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>like that. I just, yeah, I acknowledged him. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you look great and are you happy? And

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<v Speaker 3>I moved it right along. I had the kids with me,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, it felt really good to say this.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, my husband's working, because I didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>that in the previous right, and so I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>my husband's working. So just because it was like, why

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<v Speaker 3>are you here? I was asked of me, and I said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>because I grew up here too, you know, And so

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<v Speaker 3>he acknowledged you back had to. I mean we were

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<v Speaker 3>literally within like a two by two foot square space

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<v Speaker 3>on our way out of an old building.

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<v Speaker 2>Catherine, I think it depends on the situation. I think

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<v Speaker 2>if you see them kind of regularly, yes, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that if you're just running in I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 2>the times I've probably been in a place and didn't

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledge someone I know because I didn't feel like talking.

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<v Speaker 2>So you go the other way. If you meet eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>you acknowledge. You don't have a choice. I just think

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<v Speaker 2>it really depends on the situation. So I need to

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<v Speaker 2>know the situation and then I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm just curious if you because I have seen

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<v Speaker 1>an ex out and it's the on both sides, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the we we know the person's there, right, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering which one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I know, and absolutely I would not acknowledge to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's so dramatic on both parts of the

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<v Speaker 1>non like of acknowledgement. I think for me it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in a place where like I truly don't hate anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I I might dislike the person, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be friends with certain people, but I think it's dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>for us both to continue to just have that not

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<v Speaker 1>even it's like, I think it's fine to do the

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<v Speaker 1>little like head nod that feels fair.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't again, we don't need to be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>how are you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to have a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't either, But I think it's just like the

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<v Speaker 1>like the acknowledgement to be like hello, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>then because it's like the over not making eye contact

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<v Speaker 1>on everybody's part just feels so dramatic to me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, for what reason isn't everybody happy?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the head nod would it would suffice for

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<v Speaker 2>this situation. The head not feel like, no one needs

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<v Speaker 2>to get into a conversation because that's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>lead to anything good.

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<v Speaker 1>But what the therapist says, and sorry, before you find out,

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<v Speaker 1>the therapist would say, don't give into let's say, a narcisst.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not calling this person narcissist, but sometimes like if

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<v Speaker 1>it's bad or whatever, then there needs to be obviously right,

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<v Speaker 1>no acknowledgment right and giving letting them come into your space.

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<v Speaker 1>So I understand there's certain areas where you shouldn't acknowledge

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<v Speaker 1>that person because it just gives them more fuel for

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<v Speaker 1>their own narcissism and whatever else there is. Or if

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<v Speaker 1>it was a really bad, you know, breakup, but when

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, years removed and everyone is I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't see the point of this, like dramatic,

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<v Speaker 1>like we're we're making such an effort to not have

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<v Speaker 1>eye contact, well it feels like you abandon It's like

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<v Speaker 1>we're literally two tables away from each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Just just nod.

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<v Speaker 1>So that way the next time, because it continues, we

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<v Speaker 1>keep running into each other time and time again at restaurants.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like, who, like, okay, hello, Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I see both sides. I think that letting it into

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<v Speaker 2>your space makes sense too. Like I think that if

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<v Speaker 2>for you, obviously, for you, you'd rather do the head

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<v Speaker 2>nod and it's not gonna affect you. But let's say

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<v Speaker 2>for someone that it may affect them if they were

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's okay to not acknowledge and move on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but for you, you're like, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's happy, yeah, and it's all good. I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>what you say this person. You don't know if that

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<v Speaker 1>person's happy, Well they look happy.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mean they are loving they must be.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like we're all like happy in relationships, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm happy, acknowledge me. You don't necessarily like.

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<v Speaker 1>They're with their significant beautiful other, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So like everyone's good, and like I would say at

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<v Speaker 1>least just ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I would never, I'll be honest, There's no one

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<v Speaker 3>I would, even the one that I dislike the most.

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<v Speaker 3>I still would give a hey like, move along.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if that's then from a far I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go out of my way.

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<v Speaker 3>You're ducking behind cereal two minutes, you're avoid icon.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I will go this way. If this person is

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<v Speaker 2>far far away, if we are passing each other, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to acknowledge and do the head nod.

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<v Speaker 3>You should send that person an appetizer next time. Unavoidable.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so far like I think it's so.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would even welcome people back on a

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<v Speaker 1>couch to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we all know that that is you and that

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<v Speaker 2>is you, and I don't want, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Not not to hang out, but like just a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Where I think, I think that that might be the

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<v Speaker 2>one topic where most of us, of your friends minus

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<v Speaker 2>one of them, would disagree. Right, you're just but I

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<v Speaker 2>do love that about you though, I just don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>about us are in that world.

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<v Speaker 1>I just get such a growth moment for everyone to hear,

0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Not growing. But yeah, I agree, I feel great, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel great.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Okay, I think it feels good to you to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just love good energy and I just like

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't doesn't and I and honestly like it used

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<v Speaker 1>to really bother me. Now I just think it's funny

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<v Speaker 1>and I life like now I'm just like.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll literally go to the same like y'all freak all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. And it's like, how does ALAN feel about it?

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<v Speaker 1>They were like facing each other, one of them, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you looking at each other?

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<v Speaker 3>Like what is happening?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Wild?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And so I just you know, okay, but like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care like it used to bother me because I

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<v Speaker 1>had such hatred for this, you know, even though I

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<v Speaker 1>say I don't hate people, but I still had such anger.

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<v Speaker 1>I had such anger around it and how it unfolded.

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<v Speaker 1>But now it's so just petty and long gone and

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<v Speaker 1>ever it's all good now and I don't care anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't affect me anymore. When I see that person,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, oh, it's just my past, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. I mean, he doesn't care, like he

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<v Speaker 1>literally is like I remember one time ran into the person.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, it just I go, I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the way I feel because of how everything unfolded, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's like, why do you let it affect you?

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<v Speaker 1>And I really I brought that to therapy and talked

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<v Speaker 1>to Amy about it because I'm like, why do I

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<v Speaker 1>let it affect me?

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<v Speaker 3>Why does it bother me so much?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was able to kind of work through it

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<v Speaker 1>with her and now it's like, yeah, now it's I

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<v Speaker 1>just find it just silly and funny.

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<v Speaker 2>The other side of that, though, is I bet he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't feel like you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think he still villainizes me, yes, and like

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<v Speaker 1>make and I know he does because he like tells

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<v Speaker 1>people that I'm crazy and this is it was all so,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's never taken ownership. And I think that's the

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<v Speaker 1>difference in it is like I know he still says

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<v Speaker 1>which or maybe not now, but like a few years

0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:10.280
<v Speaker 1>ago calling me like crazy and this, that and the

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<v Speaker 1>other and like villainized me, never took ownership, So he

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<v Speaker 1>might still be on that same I agree, Uh, he

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<v Speaker 1>might still be doing that, which is why to him,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>He wouldn't be able to do that same thing that

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<v Speaker 2>you can now do because you've moved past it and

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<v Speaker 2>you've moved past the anger.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he probably has not done the same or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it makes her uncomfortable maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's fair. Yeah, that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, like you know, I like again wish our

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<v Speaker 1>happiness for everybody. But I just to me in just

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<v Speaker 1>it's just general. I thought it was just.

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<v Speaker 3>An interesting that is a good topic. I like it

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<v Speaker 3>to just talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>At first, I thought, I was like, why are we

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Mike? We see him all the time. Why

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<v Speaker 2>are we not acknowledging, which I have done that with

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<v Speaker 2>Mike for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, on that note, let's take a break and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know what's next, Ladies. Shockingly, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a wine about it today. I'm actually saving it

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<v Speaker 1>for next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I like that you've pinned it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm pinning it because I want to sit with

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more, because it's got some tea on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, so stay tuned today for next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it an update to something with what? Never mind?

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<v Speaker 3>No, go ahead, go Is.

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<v Speaker 2>It an update to what we talked about a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks ago. Yes, okay, that's what I was thinking,

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:37.480
<v Speaker 2>And I just need.

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<v Speaker 1>To, like, I feel like the most mature thing for

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<v Speaker 1>me to do is to still kind of sit with

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<v Speaker 1>it so I can have a but I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to spill some a little bit more tea, so stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 3>But I really don't have a wine. Cat, you have

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<v Speaker 3>a wine.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, really I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay, so love I don't know if you follow

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<v Speaker 3>the Guinea Pig chronicles the Guinea Pig. Okay. In this,

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<v Speaker 3>we went out the other night, and we were out

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<v Speaker 3>it was started to be dinner time, so we pulled

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<v Speaker 3>over into the best of the worst options in the

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<v Speaker 3>chain tiny town area that we're in, right, so we

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<v Speaker 3>decide cracker Barrel. Okay, kids always pick it because they

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<v Speaker 3>get toys. They don't get toys this time, I'd like

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<v Speaker 3>to say good. So we sit down, but I need

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<v Speaker 3>to frame that it was cracker Barrel because I always

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy a good Cracker Barrel visit. I feel like the

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<v Speaker 3>staff is always overly friendly, and that is one thing

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<v Speaker 3>that I really appreciate. I was a server for six years.

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<v Speaker 3>I managed a restaurant for a year. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>say all of that, and I will say that the

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<v Speaker 3>server still got twenty percent. Okay, all that being said,

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<v Speaker 3>so we sit down and she is whispering basically the

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<v Speaker 3>tone that the tone I can tell she's Savers whispering. Yeah,

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:51.199
<v Speaker 3>she's essentially like the character and pitch perfect that, like

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<v Speaker 3>you can't hear anything, and so or I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if it's okay with you, and I'm always

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<v Speaker 3>the kindest because I was a server, I said, if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't when you do drinks, can I just give

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:03.879
<v Speaker 3>you the kids food? I need to be like a

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<v Speaker 3>little proactive other than reactive. And she was like so,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, oh, I'm sorry, I can't okay,

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 3>And I can tell Preston's already, like he's with people

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<v Speaker 3>so much that I can tell, so now I'm running

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<v Speaker 3>tight d He's never an angry guy, but I could

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 3>tell he's getting annoyed already. So we ask for biscuits.

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<v Speaker 3>She brings the biscuits no plates. So I say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just you know, if it's okay, we just I

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<v Speaker 3>would love to just grab like some just some red plates.

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<v Speaker 3>She kind of rolls her eyes and departs from the table,

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<v Speaker 3>comes back with a stack of napkins, sets them down,

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<v Speaker 3>and says, all of our bread plates are dirty. I

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<v Speaker 3>should also tee up the story by saying there is

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<v Speaker 3>maybe five tables in there. Maybe not exaggerating, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>why is everything dirty? I don't know. Are you just lazy?

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 3>It's a confusing Is this your first day? I don't

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 3>do Were you just born? Because it's starting to feel

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 3>a little bit like that. So she comes back over

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:59.399
<v Speaker 3>and she says she says that that they're dirty, and

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<v Speaker 3>I say, oh, okay, well then well and Preston's looking

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<v Speaker 3>at me like is this real life? Right? And she

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 3>slaps the napkins down and I said, well, then we'll

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 3>just take big plates. That's fine, right, And she goes, well,

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<v Speaker 3>these napkins will work. Oh, same same face, same thought.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, actually, we'll just take the big plates.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not camping. What is happening. I'm having this moment

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<v Speaker 3>like are we getting punked? What's happening? She grabs the

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<v Speaker 3>napkins okay, furious, rolls her eyes and walks away. At

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<v Speaker 3>this point, see, now this is the difference. And it's

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 3>not that President isn't gracious and that he isn't like

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 3>he's the most patient person. I can just tell he

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<v Speaker 3>has to do this every freaking day that he's not

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<v Speaker 3>with us, and he's like over it, right, and he

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 3>we have this inside joke that like we work here.

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:55.159
<v Speaker 3>Everywhere we go we work here. I'm at best Buy,

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:57.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm helping him get a product protection plan. Like where

0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:59.480
<v Speaker 3>it's just like no one's working. So I guess my

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 3>wine about is I feel like we are. I pray

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<v Speaker 3>that the people in our generation are creating people that

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<v Speaker 3>want to work again, because I deeply feel like we

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 3>are lacking work ethic, common sense. I know I sound

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<v Speaker 3>like an old lady and I'm well aware of that,

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 3>but it is wildly disheartening out there. And I even

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't ever rude to her and again tipped her

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<v Speaker 3>twenty percent because I'm like, this is I needed to

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 3>say go get the other plates because like I need

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 3>her to think outside of the box, But like, why

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 3>isn't she thinking outside of the box? Right? And so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just I feel like everywhere we go, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>worth spending the money to go do anything anymore because

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 3>no one is really wanting to be there or work right,

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<v Speaker 3>And that's frustrating because everything is also way more expensive

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 3>than it used to be. Yeah, I feel I don't

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 3>how old was she? She looked young okay, Like I

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 3>would say, I would be shocked if she had reached

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<v Speaker 3>the twenties, So.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to group everybody together in that age range.

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<v Speaker 1>Having said that, the twenty year old's, the young twenty

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<v Speaker 1>year olds that I have worked with are not as proactive,

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<v Speaker 1>not as they don't show up the way that I

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 1>remember I showed up when I was twenty and grinding

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<v Speaker 1>and doing the things that I did. The they like

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<v Speaker 1>to take shortcuts and not do the job.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd agree. I would also agree that maybe they have

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<v Speaker 3>better boundaries than we do. Maybe they like when you

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 3>told me I'm a salary position, I am working to detriment.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm their eighty hours. You can call me at ten.

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 3>That's fine, I mean zero boundaries. I still have PTSD.

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 3>If the next tel sound that Jamaican next heel ring,

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 3>that used to happen because that was like the radio station,

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 3>So I get it. I love to honor that. But

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<v Speaker 3>like I've had babysitters, not the one I have now,

0:28:57.600 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 3>but I've had babysitters before where they're like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>have to leave here by eleven, I have to be

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 3>here at eleven. Well, now I'm stuck in traffic. At

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<v Speaker 3>Nashville and I'm trying to get home and blah blah

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 3>blah blah, and I'm stressed out. And then I get

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 3>home and they talked to me for an hour. I'm like,

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 3>what are we doing? If you need to leave it eleven?

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 3>I want you squealing tires at eleven to one? Yeah,

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 3>because I'm busting my ass to get back here. It's

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 3>just a different work ethic, and I just want us

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 3>to course correct it. We can still have boundaries, but

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<v Speaker 3>to get your eyes, like the eye rolling and the

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 3>like you're giving me napkins. Yeah, what is happening? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And a restaurant. I mean, listen, it's cracker barrel. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not like but also this is wild to me. Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Do I sound like a crotchy old lady?

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I think again, it's just And I wonder what are

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the people forty when we were twenty with the forty

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>year olds would have said about us. I wonder too,

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.479
<v Speaker 1>because ib we should call somebody and ask to make

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 1>that our homework, because that's an interesting spin on it.

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Having said that, though, remember I sent you that one

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>video we were we were trialing this one person for

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Roman's nanny, and when she was done. I mean she

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>left the house a disaster. I mean toys and stuff

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 1>literally everywhere, And so I sent her a video and

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I said, hey, moving forward, like, when I'm done working,

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<v Speaker 1>the last thing I want to do is come home

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>to this messy house, Like, can you please clean up

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the toys that you guys played with, because when you

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>got here in the morning, I clean up the toys

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that we played with in the morning. I left you

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>a very clean house, and I would just appreciate the

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 1>house being left that same way, you know. And even

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>her if her response wasn't like oh, I'm so sorry

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>and like that won't happen again, it was like, well,

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>like excuses, and I'm like, I did defense ask for

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>a defensiveness on it, you know, like I just can

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 1>this just not be left this way? It's weirderiod, and

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:56.959
<v Speaker 1>it's not everybody like I feel right now like I

0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>do have the best of the best, but it's like, also,

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have help for eight years because I was

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I would rather just not well. And they're asking like

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<v Speaker 1>if you were asking for thirty dollars an hour at

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:13.239
<v Speaker 1>twenty years old, you better be showing up for what

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 1>thirty dollars an hour. Looks like this is not thirty

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>dollars an hour, no type of you know, no sitting

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 1>at all, you know what I mean? Like I know,

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think I also stomach, like it's a lot

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 1>of money to our family. So exactly, I was an

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>assistant for this lead and I was to be her clothing.

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I worked at the store called Weekends. It was on

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>in Te Luca Lake. She was so not nice to me,

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>but I just wanted her approval so badly and I

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>worked so hard for her. So most of it was

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be at the store and I would help

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 1>with you know things, folding the clothes and everything. But

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>then she would also bring me to her house and

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>she would literally give me a toothbrush and say can

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 1>you clean the floor. And I was on my hands

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and knees scrubbing with a toothbrush. That's right to make money,

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>like in between my movies and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like saying, I don't think where's the art.

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 3>I guess if.

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>We gave a toothbrush to a twenty year old baby,

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 1>like I'm finally in a loss of lawsuit.

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 3>And also watch my TikTok It just my viral and

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 3>terrible boss.

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>But I would never do that, all right, So this

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<v Speaker 1>week's headline is Courtney Kardashian addresses viral rumors son Mason,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen has a baby in a rare statement. Courtney Kardashian

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>is shutting down the viral rumors that her fifteen year

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>old son Mason has a baby. On Sunday, March second,

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 1>the Kardashian star forty five why did they put the age?

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Shared a rare statement on her Instagram story. I rarely

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>address rumors or conspiracies regarding myself or my family, but

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 1>this is about my child, and it feels wrong to

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>let anyone think for a second that these lies are

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>remotely true. They are not. Mason does not have a child.

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>These accounts that pretend to be him are definitely not.

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>They're fake. My son really values his privacy, and I'm

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm asking all media to please be respectful. He is

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>a kid with feelings and a beautiful life ahead of him.

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Please stop spreading false narratives and spinning lies. And to

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>all the other people making videos about my kids, who

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>by the way, are miners, please stop and leave them alone.

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>So first and foremost, you know to her point she

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 1>rarely addresses rumors or conspiracies about herself or family.

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean they would be doing it all.

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Day, exhausting every day, like it's the most Like you said,

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>it must be like the most exhausting. It would take

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>up your entire day because people are always talking about

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 1>them and what's you know, this conspiracy or that or

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to this though, I'm I saw and

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, girl, like one thousand percent, good

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 1>on you, because don't don't talk about kids. Don't don't

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 1>talk about my kids or lies like that. That's that's

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>harmful to that child.

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:00.479
<v Speaker 3>I also would say that I think it carries more

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 3>weight because she doesn't comment often, right, which is what

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 3>I liked about it. I was like, well, man, Courtney's commenting,

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 3>then it must be something protected. I didn't know, like

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 3>where was this all? Was it a TikTok?

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Or all over TikTok?

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 3>That's so sad?

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, so do you know the backstory to kind of

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 2>like what happened? Basically, it was a girl that he

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 2>did date or had seen photos of, at least presumably

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.319
<v Speaker 2>dating all of a sudden, has a one year old.

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Then there's an Instagram account where he is, supposedly him,

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.839
<v Speaker 2>goes in and answers these questions, says, yes, I had

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 2>a child, her name is Piper, here's photos, and then

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:44.799
<v Speaker 2>it gets scrubbed, you know, a little while later. I

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:47.840
<v Speaker 2>agree with everything that you've said. I don't know that

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 2>everyone believes her because I think there was a lot

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 2>of other things as well. I think that there's also

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 2>accounts with this girl going on there. When I'm looking

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 2>at it and I'm not saying it's true or not true,

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 2>the kid looks a lot like him, Like, so it's again,

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 2>kids are not kids.

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm getting kind of mind exactly right now.

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 2>No, not against me, like I agree.

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Feeding into the like it looks like them, you know

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 3>what I mean.

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I understand though, where people went there because he posted it,

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Like he literally actually posted, yes I have a kid,

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:26.760
<v Speaker 2>presumably his account.

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh it was.

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 2>It was a Q and A and him answering these questions,

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 2>presumably him. They went away all of that. I was

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 2>really happy that she did post it, that she stood

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 2>up for him, of all the things, like if this

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 2>is not true, you absolutely address that. I just worry that,

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 2>not even worry. I hate it for him that it's

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:54.719
<v Speaker 2>it's going to, in my opinion, probably continue because I

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:56.879
<v Speaker 2>don't think a lot of people are buying it. If

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 2>you go back to TikTok now and you search for

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 2>the stuff, it's basically saying that Courtney Kardashian spent all

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 2>this money to bury it. So there's a lot of

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 2>conspiracies out there, a lot about it. It's it's everywhere

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 2>on TikTok, I mean, and it's like it's crazy, and

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I feel so bad for her, irregardless, in him, irregardless

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 2>if this is true or not true, Like let the

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 2>kid have a baby in private if he wants to also,

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. I mean, I'm going to

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 2>choose to believe that that's the truth because she put

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 2>out a statement, and I don't think that she would

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:31.320
<v Speaker 2>put out a statement. Does the statement.

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 3>Say it is not his son, or she says he

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.279
<v Speaker 3>does not have a Sien does not have a child.

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm a daughter.

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I just was looking for the loophole right for

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:39.840
<v Speaker 3>a second.

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's what I was wondering if maybe like.

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.840
<v Speaker 3>Honest family. I feel like they have been you guys,

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 3>like we know too much, you know, and they've been

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.400
<v Speaker 3>honest about the things that something about and rightfully so

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:53.280
<v Speaker 3>not kids.

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:55.839
<v Speaker 2>They have so gone in private, yeah about a lot

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 2>of things.

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:59.359
<v Speaker 1>And I respect that so much because it's not their

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>and what like we have said things like, oh, I

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have said this about Emmy, or maybe I shouldn't

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 1>have said this about there's we start to really go, Okay,

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 1>We've got to protect the kids, even though yes, we

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 1>show them on social media, and there will be a

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 1>time when I stop showing them so much because they

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>also be like, maybe they don't want to be on

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 1>social media, and maybe I should have waited until they

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 1>had a choice.

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 3>But also it is what it is, and that's how

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 3>I started it.

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 2>And absolutely, and I think this is where it gets

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 2>tricky because it seemingly he chose he had been off

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 2>of social media for about a year, he had not

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 2>been on the show. He had not he'd kind of been,

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's where all this speculation started. Why

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 2>is he not on the show? Where is he what

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 2>is happening? He's not on social media? All those things,

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 2>So I think that's where everyone started speculating about things.

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 2>There also was a TikTok showing a house a house

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 2>in Malibu. I do not know the truth to this,

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.479
<v Speaker 2>but that he had been seen going in and out

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:57.879
<v Speaker 2>of apparently that was linked back to her. Who knows

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:01.919
<v Speaker 2>if that's true. But on the flip side, I can

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:04.879
<v Speaker 2>see where these speculations got to the world we're in now,

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 2>where these speculations got to where they did, because he

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 2>presumably was back on social media and answered that he

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 2>had a child. Her name is Piper. They did date

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 2>these two, I believe. Again I don't true, maybe, but total.

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Could he just going to a friend's house and like say, and.

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>This is what is so scary about Today's not only

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 1>AI but also I'm not saying true, but there's a

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of things that come now on Instagram or social media.

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 1>They're like look at this. I'm like, that is completely

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 1>AI and not true. Then there's other things that you

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:44.359
<v Speaker 1>know of that that might possibly be true. We don't

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>actually know what the truth is because of all this

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>AI generated stuff.

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 2>It's scary.

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then when it then because now social media

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>seems to be where people go for news things and

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 1>spreading information. I don't That's why I'm always like, what's

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the truth?

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 3>Is true? Is this not true? What is like?

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Where is the truth in all of this, and so

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>that's my fear with it because do you remember back

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 1>in the day too, where they went on this whole

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:17.320
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy about how Chloe was Ojay's daughter daughter. You know,

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:20.879
<v Speaker 1>it's like, how harmful and so sad for her too,

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:24.880
<v Speaker 1>to have that be a rumor that she's like her father,

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 1>that she was so close to people are speculating that

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 1>that actually wasn't her father because she.

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 3>Was so tall was one of the reasons.

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Don't look like you know it's so I think it's

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 1>just this is the part of social media that I

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>just find so dangerous and hurtful.

0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 3>I'd agree.

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I also think too, this is where it gets tricky

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:47.320
<v Speaker 2>for celebrities and their children to be on social media.

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:49.360
<v Speaker 2>And that's a whole other topic, but that's where it

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:51.839
<v Speaker 2>gets super, super tricky. But at the end of the day,

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 2>we don't even know presumably it wasn't his account, so

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 2>people are making accounts acting like Kim at this point.

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's a it's a kind of damned if

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 2>you do, damned if you don't situation. But I am

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:08.319
<v Speaker 2>just saying I can see where people speculated these things,

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 2>but kids are still off limits. I will always agree

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 2>with that.

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I've yes, I do agree. I've made mistakes

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 1>in that in the past a way as far ago

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 1>of making comments about you know, kid or sure, we

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 1>all have learned lessons, you know what I mean. But

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.959
<v Speaker 1>I will say this, and this is take Now, take

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the Kardashian story. We're closing the door on that.

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 3>We're not. That's that's done.

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 1>My question to you girls within this headline is how

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 1>far would you go for your kids and what would

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 1>what lie would you tell? Did you guys ever see

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 1>that movie the TV show The juror not.

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 2>The jur Yes, is that the one?

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm talking to. It's it's the jury.

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:58.800
<v Speaker 2>No, it's the he's the judge.

0:40:58.840 --> 0:40:59.919
<v Speaker 3>He's a judge.

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:12.360
<v Speaker 1>So he's the judge in a case his son actually

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:13.280
<v Speaker 1>ended up killing.

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 3>This is I mean, this is.

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:18.799
<v Speaker 1>So sidebarring, but I'm just posing the question because it

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>brings up what we would do for our kids and

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:24.240
<v Speaker 1>what lies we would tell for our kids. So the

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:28.399
<v Speaker 1>son again, this is this is a story, this isn't

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 1>even a true story. But the son ended up running

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:35.399
<v Speaker 1>over by accident, complete accident. Comes to find out that

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>his son was the one that did it. So he

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 1>then oh, my god, Easton, we're wrong. It's called your honor.

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:44.279
<v Speaker 1>But yes, that is.

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Right the judge.

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 3>But come to it where.

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, he comes home and they have this moment

0:41:57.040 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 1>where he realizes that he was the one that did it,

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 1>and so then he frames other people, not people, but

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>tries to you know, get the him acquitted basically of

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:11.880
<v Speaker 1>it and never knowing that it was him. What would

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:14.359
<v Speaker 1>you do for your kids in a situation? How far

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 1>would you lie for your kids in a situation if

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 1>you don't want some what if they did a father

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 1>of a child, or what if they did do X,

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Y and Z, like what would you do to protect

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:29.880
<v Speaker 1>them in this kind of day and age.

0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:31.840
<v Speaker 2>I think all situations are different.

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:33.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to monitor how much I share.

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:35.360
<v Speaker 2>What did we just know?

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Not that I need to protect anyone, just that this

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 3>is a common kind of what you're going to think

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 3>is wild kind of common conversation in our house because

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 3>I in both sides of the family, we have some

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:51.399
<v Speaker 3>wild enabling. And I am saying there is a full

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 3>grown man in our family that is wildly enabled to

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:59.439
<v Speaker 3>the point of like detriment to me, Like we can

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 3>when at what point do you become an adult and

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 3>start handling your stuff. And so I think what gets

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 3>tricky is like, I, you know, I'm talking about a

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 3>ten to fifteen I understand, but he didn't get there

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 3>because he was a Yeah, because he was a ten

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 3>year old, and then he was a fifteen year old,

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 3>and then he was a seventeen year old, and it

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 3>was the wild enabling yep. And so the conversation and

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Preston presses this conversation or this question to me often

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:26.880
<v Speaker 3>is he's like, well, what would you do if that

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 3>was Legend? And I don't, Okay, no one knows what

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 3>they would do until they're in a situation, and no

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.880
<v Speaker 3>one knows any situation until they're in it. I firmly

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 3>believe both of those things. I really feel like responsibility.

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 3>You have to face responsibility head on always because if

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 3>you lie about something, it always becomes worse, and if

0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:57.400
<v Speaker 3>you enable something, it always becomes worse. In my history,

0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.360
<v Speaker 3>I can't think of a time where that's proven. Otherwise,

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 3>if Legend fathered a child at fifteen, I don't think

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 3>it's anybody's business but our own families, So would you

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 3>lie for them if it came out I don't know,

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:17.239
<v Speaker 3>because I think the world eats people alive now and

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 3>I think it makes it Having a kid at fifteen

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 3>is already going to be I walked that when I

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 3>was fifteen with friends. Oh, I was like, no, do

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 3>we have do I No? But I had a girlfriend

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<v Speaker 3>who had a baby at thirteen, and you know, like

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 3>it's really hard and I can't imagine. I know, I

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 3>can't imagine. If social media was a thing, then people

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:40.759
<v Speaker 3>had enough to say and there was enough judgment cast,

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:42.840
<v Speaker 3>and there was all you know, so like, imagine that

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<v Speaker 3>as a mom, you could take that piece away from them,

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 3>the piece that's uneducated and speculating, widely judgmental, and at

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<v Speaker 3>least take that layer off of them. I don't know.

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:54.359
<v Speaker 3>That's just my honest heart.

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<v Speaker 2>I think for me, I have always said, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>not been in this situation yet, I've always said, I've

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:05.279
<v Speaker 2>always said, you wanted to I'm getting there. I'm getting there.

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I'll let you call yourself out on.

0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:11.279
<v Speaker 2>That is literally my next My first call out is

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 2>that I have always told my kids, and I've always

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:16.279
<v Speaker 2>said from seeing being in high school, if my kid

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:17.839
<v Speaker 2>gets pulled over and they go to jail, they will

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:20.120
<v Speaker 2>spend that night in jail, like, I'm not bailing you out.

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Having said that, I would like to say, if my

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 2>kid actually killed someone, I wouldn't. I don't know what

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 2>I would do in that situation. To me, that's like

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 2>a whole extreme situation where their life is ruined. The

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:39.359
<v Speaker 2>other side of that is, to me, my kid's life

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 2>is not ruined if they have a kid at actually

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 2>fourteen is when he had this supposed child.

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.800
<v Speaker 3>I would say, what help?

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:52.800
<v Speaker 2>I have said that to my children.

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 3>I want you to say what you've said to me.

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying I will help that kid. Now what you

0:45:57.520 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 2>said you want to be a hot young grand No,

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying I will help with that baby.

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 3>You're like, I would love to have that.

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:07.719
<v Speaker 2>I would. I mean love is a strong I wouldn't

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:10.359
<v Speaker 2>really love for my child's because it would be a hard,

0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 2>but I would not lie about it. I would probably

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<v Speaker 2>tell I'll just go with it. Let's just say, Kayden,

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:20.800
<v Speaker 2>he's sixteen. I would probably say, get off social media,

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:25.440
<v Speaker 2>but own it, own your truth, be a good father

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:28.320
<v Speaker 2>or mother. If it's my daughter and we're gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>this together, that would not bother me. I have always yes,

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:35.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm the one growing up watching sixteen and pregnant, Like, ooh,

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:37.440
<v Speaker 2>if my kid got pregnant at sixteen, I'm not bad

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:39.000
<v Speaker 2>ass grandma that's helping with that kid.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that place I've always remembered that.

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:45.239
<v Speaker 2>I love it. I gotta say a that's kind of

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:48.280
<v Speaker 2>my calling. I just didn't see that coming. But honestly,

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 2>if I'm being real now with having like a sixteen

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:53.040
<v Speaker 2>and a thirteen year old, I wanted someone else's kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll help you.

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<v Speaker 3>You got in the day like ten years ago, you

0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:57.600
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. I wanted to kids.

0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Having said that, though, I would way long ago, right,

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 2>so I would step up and we would do it

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:08.320
<v Speaker 2>together and my kid would still go to college.

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 3>Like listen, I'm doing that too. I'm just saying publicly.

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:13.799
<v Speaker 3>I might if I'm a Kardashian, I might not say

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 3>that because I might want it. I don't. I just

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 3>think they just deal with the different level of a wild.

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 2>They do, but they already deal with it. So what

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.680
<v Speaker 2>is I guess maybe what is a little okay? He

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 2>got he got a girl pregnant at fourteen? What is

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 2>any different than anything they've ever faced?

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Because he's fifteen, you would.

0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Have to read it. It's not it's not him, it's

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>not they've already faced it. But for him, that's what

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:37.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So it's like his own mental health.

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 2>But he's already well that's why I say he needs

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 2>to get off social media. I think that you can say, yes,

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:45.480
<v Speaker 2>this is true, please whatever, and then he needs to

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 2>get off social media, and he has to deal with

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 2>the repercussions of getting someone pregnant. You got to step up,

0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 2>you got to be a father. He unfortunately, if that

0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:56.319
<v Speaker 2>were true, would have to step up and grow up

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot quicker. But that's the reality of what just

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 2>happened to me. That's a little bit of the consequence

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:04.840
<v Speaker 2>of it, the repercussion of it. But social media is brutal.

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 3>I agree, likely People magazine they already rip them apart, I.

0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Know, for right or wrong now anyway, so that they do.

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:15.160
<v Speaker 3>Just keep going, well that's really.

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:17.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean they have absolutely.

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 3>I just haven't seen that.

0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, there hasn't been any because they're protective saying what

0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 2>has happened. Mason's the oldest. Yeah, he's the only one

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:27.080
<v Speaker 2>for it to happen. But I don't think for a

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 2>second they wouldn't attack it.

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that i'd lie, but I don't know

0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:30.839
<v Speaker 3>that I wouldn't, is all I can say.

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, I may not advertise it. Maybe I don't know.

0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I just learned a lot about you

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 3>in the last two minutes.

0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:39.279
<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the family. Like it would be so hard

0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 2>for me to be like I have a grandkid and

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 2>not be like, welcome. I would be so excited about

0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 2>the I kind of do Okay, wow, all right, Okay,

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:49.839
<v Speaker 2>Well I don't just told them myself there, okay, And

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:51.480
<v Speaker 2>they're staying in jail for a day if they go

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:51.879
<v Speaker 2>to jail.

0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 3>I heard that, and I don't doubt that. Actually that's true.

0:48:57.120 --> 0:48:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, from kidding real.

0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 1>From Kayley, When you took technology out of the house,

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:04.200
<v Speaker 1>how did you do it? Did you wean it out?

0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Did you use a certain method? Is all technology cut out?

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Do you use it rewards?

0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Et cetera.

0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Definitely know there is a need to take it away

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:12.719
<v Speaker 1>from our eight almost nine year old as well, but

0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 1>sometimes we just need it. He's so creative and smart.

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:17.799
<v Speaker 1>But we'll throw fits about putting it away, doing what

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:20.880
<v Speaker 1>doing what is supposed to be done, et cetera. And

0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 1>now he is starting to become anxious about different things

0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:25.640
<v Speaker 1>and tells us how bad he is at sports, if

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:28.040
<v Speaker 1>he isn't perfect doing it all the time, if he

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.440
<v Speaker 1>isn't perfect doing it for the first time. I honestly

0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of it has to do has to

0:49:34.040 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 1>tie to his technology and reliance on that. Any help

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:40.680
<v Speaker 1>resources or whatever you used would be super helpful.

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:44.280
<v Speaker 2>I have technology so much well.

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:45.879
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's what the good debate is, right.

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:48.960
<v Speaker 1>So I think you know, Chris and I are on

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 1>the You started the you paved the way I believe

0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:57.759
<v Speaker 1>of taking the pads iPads away. Yeah, and we didn't

0:49:57.840 --> 0:49:59.399
<v Speaker 1>use them a ton to begin with, so I will

0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:01.040
<v Speaker 1>say I need to say that because I think it's

0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:03.919
<v Speaker 1>easier to take them away when they're not often right.

0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 1>And I think where we fell into the habit was

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 1>during quiet time Jolie would get her iPad, and then

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:14.120
<v Speaker 1>with Jase, he never really liked his iPad, but there

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 1>was a moment where there was a lot of iPad

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:22.319
<v Speaker 1>watching at a different household, and so I started to

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 1>see how different my son was being, and then what

0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:27.680
<v Speaker 1>it was doing to Jolie. She became so addicted to

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 1>it that then when they'd come here. It was constantly

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:33.839
<v Speaker 1>asking about it, constantly wanting to be on it. They

0:50:33.840 --> 0:50:36.840
<v Speaker 1>would think if they did something, great, Okay, so I

0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 1>did this, Does that mean I get my iPad? And

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, this is not a reward, Like technology

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:44.319
<v Speaker 1>is actually not a reward. Just because you did a

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:46.400
<v Speaker 1>chore does not mean okay, now you get to get

0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:48.600
<v Speaker 1>your iPad? Like where is this coming from? So I

0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:51.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted to break that habit, just like with snacks and

0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:53.640
<v Speaker 1>desserts and all that too, Like I don't I'm trying

0:50:53.640 --> 0:50:55.480
<v Speaker 1>to rework that too, Like, well, Mammy, I ate on

0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:55.880
<v Speaker 1>my dinner.

0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:56.479
<v Speaker 3>Do I get a dessert?

0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:59.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm like no, that's not like you should eat your dinner,

0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:01.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, like that is what you should do. But

0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:05.239
<v Speaker 1>for Jolie and then learning more about the dyslexia too,

0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:09.319
<v Speaker 1>and how screens and technology is not good. Seeing the

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 1>games that Jace was playing and knowing more about the

0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:14.880
<v Speaker 1>chat room things. I know you can go private on

0:51:14.920 --> 0:51:17.600
<v Speaker 1>that stuff, but I didn't like how he was acting

0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:22.520
<v Speaker 1>with all the roblocks crap that he was playing, and

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I just cold turkey took it away. Now did they

0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:29.239
<v Speaker 1>have it on the planes? And when we were in Scotland. Yes,

0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:32.400
<v Speaker 1>they were sick and that was the tool that I

0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 1>needed to be helpful in for that time. But you know,

0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:39.279
<v Speaker 1>since then, they had it on an airplane to fall

0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Break in October and that's the last time they've touched

0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 1>their iPad. Jolie now has a drawing pad, but that's

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:47.960
<v Speaker 1>still limited. She can only draw on it. That's that's

0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 1>literally all she can do on it. But that I

0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 1>even limit that. So for me and my kids, I

0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:57.560
<v Speaker 1>just see what it started to do and then how

0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 1>they were acting with it, and I just I want

0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:02.800
<v Speaker 1>them to go play outside. I want them to be creative.

0:52:02.800 --> 0:52:05.759
<v Speaker 1>And now they don't ever ask, they don't ever you know,

0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:09.879
<v Speaker 1>want to go on it, and you know they get

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:11.840
<v Speaker 1>the video games and all that at their dads, so

0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:14.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, fine, I just know, here is it. Let's

0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:17.080
<v Speaker 1>let's actually play and be creative. And that's what works

0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:18.799
<v Speaker 1>for my kids. I understand it's a great tool for

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:21.480
<v Speaker 1>other parents, and I know you use it for the

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:22.960
<v Speaker 1>reasons you want to use it, but I don't think

0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:25.240
<v Speaker 1>does Ramsey even have her iPad a lot.

0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Or it depends on the season. Honestly, my kids will

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:31.320
<v Speaker 2>choose to go outside. I mean now that they're older,

0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 2>but like they would choose that over having said that

0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 2>in the winter and stuff like that. Yeah, she's been

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:39.480
<v Speaker 2>on it more, but she They all have screen time,

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:41.000
<v Speaker 2>they all have a certain amount of time they can

0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:41.480
<v Speaker 2>be on it.

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 3>What do you limit it to? I'm curious, like what

0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:45.719
<v Speaker 3>everyone's limit is.

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Everyone's is different. Ramsey's is two hours. I think one hour.

0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I heard it might be when.

0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:57.400
<v Speaker 1>An hour and a half is something that is there

0:52:57.440 --> 0:52:59.800
<v Speaker 1>was something there was some study done about, but believe

0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 1>it was.

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:02.840
<v Speaker 2>And we have to keep in mind, which this is

0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 2>probably making me even worse, but we have to keep

0:53:05.480 --> 0:53:07.600
<v Speaker 2>in mind our kids are on a computer all day

0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:10.840
<v Speaker 2>at school? Well are they Yeah, that's where they do

0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:11.399
<v Speaker 2>all their work.

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:14.719
<v Speaker 3>Jace jac does have a chromebook. He only does Tuesday.

0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Chromebook maybe in kindergarten, but like, yeah, Ramsey, I mean

0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Speaker 2>as they get older, especially I mean Ramsey might not

0:53:22.760 --> 0:53:25.480
<v Speaker 2>be on it all day, but like she's on it.

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:28.240
<v Speaker 2>Like they have chromebooks that they take to and from school.

0:53:28.280 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 2>So we have to also keep that in mind for

0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:33.759
<v Speaker 2>how much technology they're getting, you know, So I'm kind

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:36.279
<v Speaker 2>of calling myself out there at that point, because they're

0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:39.399
<v Speaker 2>getting technology that's what they do, and I don't like that.

0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:41.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't like that they're on their computers. I mean

0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:44.680
<v Speaker 2>everything middle school, in high school, everything is on a computer.

0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:47.239
<v Speaker 2>You can't see their tests anymore. It's all all on.

0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:49.680
<v Speaker 3>It's tricky though, right, Like the reason I even introduced

0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:51.680
<v Speaker 3>an iPad to them, and I introduced it late, was

0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:53.719
<v Speaker 3>because I'm like, well, essentially, they need to know how

0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:56.160
<v Speaker 3>to be in their world. Like their world is.

0:53:56.640 --> 0:53:58.560
<v Speaker 2>It's the computer. You have to know how to win,

0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:00.000
<v Speaker 2>and you have to know how to do all that.

0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:02.439
<v Speaker 3>We were at like the very beginning of the big

0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:04.880
<v Speaker 3>fat this this makes us sound so old, but like

0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:07.520
<v Speaker 3>those big computers sitting in our classrooms, and it helped

0:54:07.600 --> 0:54:09.399
<v Speaker 3>us be a little more intuitive as we got older

0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:12.200
<v Speaker 3>and into the speaking was how I learned to type.

0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:15.719
<v Speaker 3>I think it mattered how fast you tie, was like

0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:19.040
<v Speaker 3>all of that. So like I introduced it, going, okay,

0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:20.719
<v Speaker 3>you need to be this needs to be a little

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:22.920
<v Speaker 3>intuitive to you because this is your world.

0:54:23.960 --> 0:54:27.040
<v Speaker 2>So it's just really tragitives and negative too. I think

0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:30.280
<v Speaker 2>that you know, social media I could have some complaints about,

0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:33.760
<v Speaker 2>but I have not had a need in my house.

0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Minus I have screen time, so I can I control it.

0:54:38.120 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 2>I make sure it's off at a certain time so

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:42.000
<v Speaker 2>the older ones go to bed or they would stay

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<v Speaker 2>up on it. But besides that, I've had no issues,

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<v Speaker 2>so I've had no reason to take it away. They

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<v Speaker 2>all know and there have been consequences for things where

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<v Speaker 2>they've been taken away or they have no phone at

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<v Speaker 2>all or whatever it is. But they know that I

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<v Speaker 2>can take it away at any point if they do anything,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, But I haven't had a reason, so I haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I did not love who Legend was when he

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<v Speaker 3>was on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never had that tree with you and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even mine don't watch TV, but they never.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the day because if we're talking boys, it

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<v Speaker 1>was the same thing with the boys was Kayden wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>iPads back in the day like when you and.

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<v Speaker 2>He was not, but he didn't he didn't watch TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Is still the kid that like would go outside no,

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<v Speaker 2>like I mean his back is hurt right now, but

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<v Speaker 2>like he's outside sports. They kind of ish all are.

0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Emmy's so busy with cheer that I also give her

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<v Speaker 2>some credit there that she needs to just chill out

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes because she's so active all the time. I could

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<v Speaker 2>see where it could become an issue with Ramsey. It

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<v Speaker 2>did a little bit this winter. But she doesn't throw fits,

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't get mad if I tell her to turn

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<v Speaker 2>it off. She doesn't zone out, which I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>know a lot of kids zone out. Yeah, that would

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<v Speaker 2>that would bother me, if I can. I remember that

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<v Speaker 2>about Jolie, and that would be crazy. Yeah. So I

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<v Speaker 2>just think it's to each their own, and I think

0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:05.239
<v Speaker 2>what's better and where you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I think, if you're asking the question, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what you need to do usually.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's like, how do you do it if

0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 1>it's ruling the if if it's how do I say that?

0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:17.520
<v Speaker 1>If it's the one running the ship, then that ship

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be taken down? Yeah, that's the question that's

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:22.879
<v Speaker 1>always posed or the problem. Then eliminate the problem. I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I think most parents would be pleasantly surprised how much

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<v Speaker 3>easier it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I was shocked how easy it was. Yes, like I think,

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<v Speaker 1>yes so quickly. Yeah, yeah, I thought it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a huge struggle.

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<v Speaker 3>No it wasn't. All right, ladies, see you next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 4>By