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Speaker 1: Wind down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I have things to say, but I first want to

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Speaker 1: check in with you guys, because Catherine, you went through

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Speaker 1: something really scary again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what the heck? I know, I'm crazy. Really just

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Speaker 2: a long story short. I mean a lot of people

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Speaker 2: heard about this, but we're in I don't care about it.

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Speaker 2: It was I didn't see it on the news everywhere, okay,

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Speaker 2: But anyway, Dallas Huge cheer competition. It's like thirty to

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand people. We competed. The night before, we were

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Speaker 2: getting ready to compete. Second day, we got a text

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Speaker 2: from a group that says, if you're not here, don't

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Speaker 2: come because there's an active shooter. We're I know, We're

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Speaker 2: across the street at the hotel and I'm like, let

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Speaker 2: me check. You know, the girls are almost ready about

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Speaker 2: to go downstairs. I'm like, they're not really, and then

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Speaker 2: you just see like a sea of people running. So

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Speaker 2: I went downstairs. People were coming into our thing. Long

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Speaker 2: story short, same they're saying, kind of same situation. It

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Speaker 2: was a fight, you know, but people were these thirty

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Speaker 2: to fifty thousand people were fleeing like there was an active shooter.

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Speaker 2: People were saying active shooter, and people are very much

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Speaker 2: claiming that they heard gunshots. The police are saying that

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Speaker 2: there were not. I'm trying not to. We had a

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Speaker 2: lot of good friends there. We had a lot of

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Speaker 2: good friends with their kids. A lot of good friends

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Speaker 2: separated from their kids, and that was a really scary

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Speaker 2: part of it. But what's been really interesting is the

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Speaker 2: people that were there that thought that they heard gunshots.

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Speaker 2: You could not convince them right now that there was

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Speaker 2: no active shooter.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's creepy.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's crazy because they're just so I don't

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Speaker 2: want to say convinced, you know, but they are so

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Speaker 2: convinced they heard gunshots and rounds of it. You know.

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Speaker 2: Some they hid in closets, they barricaded things, You had coaches,

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Speaker 2: you had people just grabbing kids because so many kids

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Speaker 2: are without parents, had a cheercomp like they just get well,

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Speaker 2: you know, they're with coaches, they're on stage, they're backstage,

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Speaker 2: all the things, barricaded, all the things. And then a

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Speaker 2: lot of people that ran out then they say they

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Speaker 2: heard more rounds outside. Then they kind of ran back in.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, it was very traumatizing for a lot of

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Speaker 2: people crazy how it seems to be about the same

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Speaker 2: situation that we went through. We luckily were not there,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of people were very traumatized by the situation.

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Speaker 2: But they went on and they competed the next day,

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Speaker 2: and I was really proud of all the girls. You know,

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Speaker 2: we had a lot that were really really traumatized by it.

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Speaker 2: So it was tough. But luckily everybody's okay, and there's

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Speaker 2: no evidence that there was an active shooter. Luckily people

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Speaker 2: did get hurt from like stampedes and stuff, you know,

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Speaker 2: like getting also just over these are little kids, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: well in are coaches. Like talking to some of the coaches,

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Speaker 2: like who didn't even even have some of their own kids, right,

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Speaker 2: or they like were like I just scooped up kids

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Speaker 2: because they're all just so and like where's my mom?

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Speaker 2: You know, like there's just it's hard to explain how

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Speaker 2: many people and it makes you think how you handle

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Speaker 2: this in the future, Like, you know, the rest of

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Speaker 2: the weekend, I didn't just drop her off at the

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Speaker 2: team room and leave, you know, because that's what you

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Speaker 2: usually do. Like we all stayed and we all stayed

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Speaker 2: real close to our kids.

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Speaker 3: So it was a while before parents could pick up kids.

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Speaker 2: There were there were two very specific kids I know

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Speaker 2: that were like missing for a while, but they had

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Speaker 2: like a location where they like were like if you

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Speaker 2: they kept sending alerts over your phone, like you know,

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Speaker 2: like amber alerts essentially, and it said go here to

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Speaker 2: rehome families and stuff. But everyone was found, everybody, you know,

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Speaker 2: but very scary for those kids that you know and

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Speaker 2: parents that were there and dealing with it.

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Speaker 3: And but everyone was okay.

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Speaker 2: Everyone I know is of some people got like a

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Speaker 2: little bit hurt, like legs and stuff like that, but yes,

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Speaker 2: everyone was okay. No evidence of a shooter.

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Speaker 1: So my goodness, I know, isn't that crazy? Well, yes,

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Speaker 1: and it's just yeah scary. Yeah, sorry to mess things

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Speaker 1: up though, ladies. I started my period five days early.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I know, well, maybe you'll make me go

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Speaker 2: ahead and start that's but it.

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Speaker 1: Just all makes sense because I went. It was one

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Speaker 1: day I was being huffy and I knew I was

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Speaker 1: in the wrong, so I was working out. Alan was

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, I need to apologize.

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Speaker 3: So I just like walked out.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm sorry, you know, and that's

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Speaker 1: all they really need, you know, It's just the acknowledgment.

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Speaker 1: And then I was like, I really don't know what's

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Speaker 1: wrong because this is weird. I'm nine days out from

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Speaker 3: Out and then all of a sudden boom. I was like,

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Speaker 3: so on this morning, I was like, babe, I figured

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Speaker 1: Then I wanted to tell him this time because I

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Speaker 1: needed the reason for my like huffiness, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: On wine Down, we usually don't want to tell him

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Speaker 2: because we don't want to like give them the satisfaction

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Speaker 2: of like, oh, you were cranking as you were starting

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I think calls it out now.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but I was having like, you guys, I

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Speaker 1: posted this so Jolie had Western day and so I

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Speaker 1: posted a photo of her wearing my fringey. I go, oh, Jolie,

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Speaker 1: I've got this you know fringe thing that I used

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Speaker 1: to wear on stage. Yeah, and uh, and then I thought, well,

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Speaker 1: I went on such a deep dive, but it was

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Speaker 1: such an em like an emotional rollercoaster that I actually

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Speaker 1: I cried and I got depressed. Oh, because I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what if that's it? Like what if I live? Because

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Speaker 1: it's like what I said in there was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I I Everything I said was you know true, like

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Speaker 1: I miss it and I'm so happy that I got

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Speaker 1: to actually live a dream out in real life. But

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Speaker 1: that dream is over, and I feel like it hit

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Speaker 1: that that's it and it's over, and it it really

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Speaker 1: you called me crying. I'm on my floor crying, And

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Speaker 1: what you didn't know is I wasn't. I didn't tell

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Speaker 1: you that I was crying when you called crying, No,

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Speaker 3: And I was like I'm just emotional and You're like okay, and.

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Speaker 1: I was like, so I didn't want to say, but

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Speaker 3: I was like, I think I'm a liar because we

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Speaker 3: on here and was like about being content and we

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Speaker 3: feel so good in our lives, and I was like,

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Speaker 3: I didn't mean to lie, but I think a lot

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Speaker 3: I'm not content. I was like, I think I just

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Speaker 3: because I'm like, is it I mean, like I did

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Speaker 1: Now I'm but it was like the same moment, same

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Speaker 1: thing of like it literally in that same moment, and

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Speaker 1: it's like I had, you know, just been crying about it,

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Speaker 1: posted it and she's feeling that and I've been thinking

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Speaker 1: about that a lot lately too, And I think Alan

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Speaker 1: like he coached on some of the biggest teams, being

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Speaker 1: that and the other, and it's like, did.

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Speaker 3: We already live.

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Speaker 1: The dream that we you know, inspired, and I know

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Speaker 1: it changes and there's seasons of it all and there's

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Speaker 1: new dreams and there's new things. But maybe that was

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Speaker 3: Well, And I also think what is most relatable is

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Speaker 3: that we've all like stepped back in some aspect to

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Speaker 3: raise families or to be moms or to pour into

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Speaker 3: our families differently, even if you're not a mom yet

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Speaker 3: or never want to be women kind of there's this

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Speaker 3: also miss a lot of parts of that. Like I

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Speaker 3: feel like I've played very supportive role in Preston's we

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Speaker 3: are flying right now. It feels awesome and that's incredible,

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Speaker 3: I'm the most involved I've ever been, So that's exciting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just and It was funny because when I

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Speaker 1: I was like, hey, baby girl, look at these photos.

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Speaker 1: she's like, Mommy, can I can I go with you

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Speaker 3: Time you go on stage? And I was like fighting

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, honey, I was like, mommy, Mommy

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Speaker 1: truth of it. But it was a lot, you know,

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Speaker 1: and and there was a lot of I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's just it's so I have such like a

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Speaker 1: love hate with it because is I there's pieces that

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Speaker 1: touring and the ones I had Jase, it's like, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be doing this and.

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Speaker 3: What's fair to your children? Yeah? And I like to

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Speaker 3: expose them to some things, but they don't need to

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Speaker 3: live their life so inconsistently all the time. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, anyways, that was just kind of a moment. And

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Speaker 1: then you know, I was, did you guys watch the Oscars? No,

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Speaker 1: I've just watched We Are Big Fashion the next day,

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Speaker 1: people love Okay, Yeah, I watched the Oscars too, And

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Speaker 1: I'm just like Ellen, I know, I know this was

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Speaker 1: before it, but I said, I really hope I can

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Speaker 1: make it to the Oscars before the in memoriam, the

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Speaker 1: what the in memorial.

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Speaker 2: You will be? I really believe it. I really believe it.

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Speaker 3: My favorite part though, about this phone conversation is that

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Speaker 3: Kramer and I will always say we're gonna make it right,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, that was a drive that was a risk.

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Speaker 1: I have a topic that I wanted to bring up

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Speaker 3: I Am going to give you my gut reaction because

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Speaker 3: like that. I just, yeah, I acknowledged him. I said,

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Speaker 2: Catherine, I think it depends on the situation. I think

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Speaker 2: if you see them kind of regularly, yes, I think

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Speaker 2: So you go the other way. If you meet eyes,

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Speaker 2: you acknowledge. You don't have a choice. I just think

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm just curious if you because I have seen

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Speaker 2: Oh I know, and absolutely I would not acknowledge to me.

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Speaker 1: I think it's so dramatic on both parts of the

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Speaker 1: I I might dislike the person, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: even it's like, I think it's fine to do the

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Speaker 3: It's like, for what reason isn't everybody happy?

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Speaker 2: I think the head nod would it would suffice for

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Speaker 1: But what the therapist says, and sorry, before you find out,

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Speaker 1: So I understand there's certain areas where you shouldn't acknowledge

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Speaker 3: Just just nod.

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Speaker 1: So that way the next time, because it continues, we

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Speaker 3: So it's like, who, like, okay, hello, Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I see both sides. I think that letting it into

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Speaker 2: I think it's okay to not acknowledge and move on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Everybody's happy, yeah, and it's all good. I don't like

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean they are loving they must be.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like we're all like happy in relationships, you

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Speaker 2: Like I'm happy, acknowledge me. You don't necessarily like.

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Speaker 1: They're with their significant beautiful other, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So like everyone's good, and like I would say at

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Speaker 3: No, I would never, I'll be honest, There's no one

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Speaker 3: I still would give a hey like, move along.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if that's then from a far I'm not

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Speaker 3: You're ducking behind cereal two minutes, you're avoid icon.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I will go this way. If this person is

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Speaker 3: You should send that person an appetizer next time. Unavoidable.

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Speaker 3: I'm so far like I think it's so.

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Speaker 2: Well, we all know that that is you and that

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Speaker 3: Not not to hang out, but like just a conversation.

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Speaker 2: Where I think, I think that that might be the

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Speaker 2: one topic where most of us, of your friends minus

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Speaker 2: one of them, would disagree. Right, you're just but I

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Speaker 1: I just get such a growth moment for everyone to hear,

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Speaker 2: Not growing. But yeah, I agree, I feel great, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I think it feels good to you to

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Speaker 1: it doesn't doesn't and I and honestly like it used

434
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Speaker 1: to really bother me. Now I just think it's funny

435
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 1: and I life like now I'm just like.

436
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 2: You'll literally go to the same like y'all freak all

437
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 2: the time. And it's like, how does ALAN feel about it?

438
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 1: They were like facing each other, one of them, I'm like,

439
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 1: are you looking at each other?

440
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,400
Speaker 3: Like what is happening?

441
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 4: You know?

442
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:44,679
Speaker 2: Wild?

443
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 3: You know?

444
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 1: And so I just you know, okay, but like I

445
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 1: don't care like it used to bother me because I

446
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 1: had such hatred for this, you know, even though I

447
00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 1: say I don't hate people, but I still had such anger.

448
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: I had such anger around it and how it unfolded.

449
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 1: But now it's so just petty and long gone and

450
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 1: ever it's all good now and I don't care anymore.

451
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 1: So it doesn't affect me anymore. When I see that person,

452
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, it's just my past, you know

453
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean, he doesn't care, like he

454
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 1: literally is like I remember one time ran into the person.

455
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 1: I was like, it just I go, I don't like

456
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: the way I feel because of how everything unfolded, and uh,

457
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, he's like, why do you let it affect you?

458
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: And I really I brought that to therapy and talked

459
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 1: to Amy about it because I'm like, why do I

460
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: let it affect me?

461
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 3: Why does it bother me so much?

462
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 1: And I was able to kind of work through it

463
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: with her and now it's like, yeah, now it's I

464
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: just find it just silly and funny.

465
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 2: The other side of that, though, is I bet he

466
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like you do.

467
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: Like I think he still villainizes me, yes, and like

468
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 1: make and I know he does because he like tells

469
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 1: people that I'm crazy and this is it was all so,

470
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 1: and he's never taken ownership. And I think that's the

471
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: difference in it is like I know he still says

472
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: which or maybe not now, but like a few years

473
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: ago calling me like crazy and this, that and the

474
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 1: other and like villainized me, never took ownership, So he

475
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: might still be on that same I agree, Uh, he

476
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 1: might still be doing that, which is why to him,

477
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 1: it's like.

478
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,719
Speaker 2: He wouldn't be able to do that same thing that

479
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 2: you can now do because you've moved past it and

480
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 2: you've moved past the anger.

481
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he probably has not done the same or maybe

482
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: it makes her uncomfortable maybe.

483
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah that's fair. Yeah, that's fair.

484
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: But also, like you know, I like again wish our

485
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 1: happiness for everybody. But I just to me in just

486
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 1: it's just general. I thought it was just.

487
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 3: An interesting that is a good topic. I like it

488
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 3: to just talk about it.

489
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: At first, I thought, I was like, why are we

490
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 2: talking about Mike? We see him all the time. Why

491
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 2: are we not acknowledging, which I have done that with

492
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: Mike for sure.

493
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 1: Well, on that note, let's take a break and then

494
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: you know, you know what's next, Ladies. Shockingly, I don't

495
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 1: have a wine about it today. I'm actually saving it

496
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: for next week.

497
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,719
Speaker 3: Oh I like that you've pinned it.

498
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pinning it because I want to sit with

499
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: a little bit more, because it's got some tea on it.

500
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 3: Oh, so stay tuned today for next week.

501
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: Is it an update to something with what? Never mind?

502
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 3: No, go ahead, go Is.

503
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 2: It an update to what we talked about a couple

504
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: of weeks ago. Yes, okay, that's what I was thinking,

505
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: And I just need.

506
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 1: To, like, I feel like the most mature thing for

507
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: me to do is to still kind of sit with

508
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: it so I can have a but I do want

509
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: to spill some a little bit more tea, so stay tuned.

510
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 3: But I really don't have a wine. Cat, you have

511
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 3: a wine.

512
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: I don't, really I do.

513
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, so love I don't know if you follow

514
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: the Guinea Pig chronicles the Guinea Pig. Okay. In this,

515
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 3: we went out the other night, and we were out

516
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 3: it was started to be dinner time, so we pulled

517
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 3: over into the best of the worst options in the

518
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 3: chain tiny town area that we're in, right, so we

519
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 3: decide cracker Barrel. Okay, kids always pick it because they

520
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 3: get toys. They don't get toys this time, I'd like

521
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 3: to say good. So we sit down, but I need

522
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 3: to frame that it was cracker Barrel because I always

523
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 3: enjoy a good Cracker Barrel visit. I feel like the

524
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: staff is always overly friendly, and that is one thing

525
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 3: that I really appreciate. I was a server for six years.

526
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 3: I managed a restaurant for a year. I want to

527
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 3: say all of that, and I will say that the

528
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: server still got twenty percent. Okay, all that being said,

529
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 3: so we sit down and she is whispering basically the

530
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: tone that the tone I can tell she's Savers whispering. Yeah,

531
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 3: she's essentially like the character and pitch perfect that, like

532
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 3: you can't hear anything, and so or I said, hey,

533
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 3: you know, if it's okay with you, and I'm always

534
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 3: the kindest because I was a server, I said, if

535
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 3: you don't when you do drinks, can I just give

536
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 3: you the kids food? I need to be like a

537
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 3: little proactive other than reactive. And she was like so,

538
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, I'm sorry, I can't okay,

539
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: And I can tell Preston's already, like he's with people

540
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: so much that I can tell, so now I'm running

541
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 3: tight d He's never an angry guy, but I could

542
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: tell he's getting annoyed already. So we ask for biscuits.

543
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 3: She brings the biscuits no plates. So I say, hey,

544
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 3: I'm just you know, if it's okay, we just I

545
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 3: would love to just grab like some just some red plates.

546
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: She kind of rolls her eyes and departs from the table,

547
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 3: comes back with a stack of napkins, sets them down,

548
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 3: and says, all of our bread plates are dirty. I

549
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: should also tee up the story by saying there is

550
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 3: maybe five tables in there. Maybe not exaggerating, right, So

551
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: why is everything dirty? I don't know. Are you just lazy?

552
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: It's a confusing Is this your first day? I don't

553
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 3: do Were you just born? Because it's starting to feel

554
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: a little bit like that. So she comes back over

555
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 3: and she says she says that that they're dirty, and

556
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 3: I say, oh, okay, well then well and Preston's looking

557
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 3: at me like is this real life? Right? And she

558
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 3: slaps the napkins down and I said, well, then we'll

559
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: just take big plates. That's fine, right, And she goes, well,

560
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 3: these napkins will work. Oh, same same face, same thought.

561
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 3: And I said, actually, we'll just take the big plates.

562
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 3: We're not camping. What is happening. I'm having this moment

563
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: like are we getting punked? What's happening? She grabs the

564
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 3: napkins okay, furious, rolls her eyes and walks away. At

565
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: this point, see, now this is the difference. And it's

566
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 3: not that President isn't gracious and that he isn't like

567
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: he's the most patient person. I can just tell he

568
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: has to do this every freaking day that he's not

569
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 3: with us, and he's like over it, right, and he

570
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 3: we have this inside joke that like we work here.

571
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 3: Everywhere we go we work here. I'm at best Buy,

572
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 3: I'm helping him get a product protection plan. Like where

573
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 3: it's just like no one's working. So I guess my

574
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: wine about is I feel like we are. I pray

575
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,719
Speaker 3: that the people in our generation are creating people that

576
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: want to work again, because I deeply feel like we

577
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 3: are lacking work ethic, common sense. I know I sound

578
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: like an old lady and I'm well aware of that,

579
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: but it is wildly disheartening out there. And I even

580
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: I wasn't ever rude to her and again tipped her

581
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 3: twenty percent because I'm like, this is I needed to

582
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: say go get the other plates because like I need

583
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 3: her to think outside of the box, But like, why

584
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: isn't she thinking outside of the box? Right? And so

585
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 3: I'm just I feel like everywhere we go, it's not

586
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 3: worth spending the money to go do anything anymore because

587
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: no one is really wanting to be there or work right,

588
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 3: And that's frustrating because everything is also way more expensive

589
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 3: than it used to be. Yeah, I feel I don't

590
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: how old was she? She looked young okay, Like I

591
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 3: would say, I would be shocked if she had reached

592
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 3: the twenties, So.

593
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to group everybody together in that age range.

594
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: Having said that, the twenty year old's, the young twenty

595
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: year olds that I have worked with are not as proactive,

596
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: not as they don't show up the way that I

597
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: remember I showed up when I was twenty and grinding

598
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: and doing the things that I did. The they like

599
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: to take shortcuts and not do the job.

600
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 3: I'd agree. I would also agree that maybe they have

601
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: better boundaries than we do. Maybe they like when you

602
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: told me I'm a salary position, I am working to detriment.

603
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: I'm their eighty hours. You can call me at ten.

604
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: That's fine, I mean zero boundaries. I still have PTSD.

605
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: If the next tel sound that Jamaican next heel ring,

606
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: that used to happen because that was like the radio station,

607
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: So I get it. I love to honor that. But

608
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 3: like I've had babysitters, not the one I have now,

609
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: but I've had babysitters before where they're like, yeah, I

610
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: have to leave here by eleven, I have to be

611
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: here at eleven. Well, now I'm stuck in traffic. At

612
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: Nashville and I'm trying to get home and blah blah

613
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: blah blah, and I'm stressed out. And then I get

614
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: home and they talked to me for an hour. I'm like,

615
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: what are we doing? If you need to leave it eleven?

616
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: I want you squealing tires at eleven to one? Yeah,

617
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: because I'm busting my ass to get back here. It's

618
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: just a different work ethic, and I just want us

619
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: to course correct it. We can still have boundaries, but

620
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: to get your eyes, like the eye rolling and the

621
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: like you're giving me napkins. Yeah, what is happening? Yeah?

622
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: And a restaurant. I mean, listen, it's cracker barrel. It's

623
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: not like but also this is wild to me. Yes?

624
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 3: Do I sound like a crotchy old lady?

625
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 4: No?

626
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: I think again, it's just And I wonder what are

627
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: the people forty when we were twenty with the forty

628
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: year olds would have said about us. I wonder too,

629
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 1: because ib we should call somebody and ask to make

630
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: that our homework, because that's an interesting spin on it.

631
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: Having said that, though, remember I sent you that one

632
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: video we were we were trialing this one person for

633
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: Roman's nanny, and when she was done. I mean she

634
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: left the house a disaster. I mean toys and stuff

635
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: literally everywhere, And so I sent her a video and

636
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: I said, hey, moving forward, like, when I'm done working,

637
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: the last thing I want to do is come home

638
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: to this messy house, Like, can you please clean up

639
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: the toys that you guys played with, because when you

640
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: got here in the morning, I clean up the toys

641
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: that we played with in the morning. I left you

642
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: a very clean house, and I would just appreciate the

643
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: house being left that same way, you know. And even

644
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: her if her response wasn't like oh, I'm so sorry

645
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: and like that won't happen again, it was like, well,

646
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: like excuses, and I'm like, I did defense ask for

647
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: a defensiveness on it, you know, like I just can

648
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: this just not be left this way? It's weirderiod, and

649
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Speaker 1: it's not everybody like I feel right now like I

650
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: do have the best of the best, but it's like, also,

651
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: I didn't have help for eight years because I was

652
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: I would rather just not well. And they're asking like

653
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: if you were asking for thirty dollars an hour at

654
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,239
Speaker 1: twenty years old, you better be showing up for what

655
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: thirty dollars an hour. Looks like this is not thirty

656
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: dollars an hour, no type of you know, no sitting

657
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: at all, you know what I mean? Like I know,

658
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: and I think I also stomach, like it's a lot

659
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: of money to our family. So exactly, I was an

660
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: assistant for this lead and I was to be her clothing.

661
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: I worked at the store called Weekends. It was on

662
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: in Te Luca Lake. She was so not nice to me,

663
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: but I just wanted her approval so badly and I

664
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: worked so hard for her. So most of it was

665
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be at the store and I would help

666
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: with you know things, folding the clothes and everything. But

667
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: then she would also bring me to her house and

668
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: she would literally give me a toothbrush and say can

669
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: you clean the floor. And I was on my hands

670
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: and knees scrubbing with a toothbrush. That's right to make money,

671
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: like in between my movies and stuff.

672
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 3: And it's like saying, I don't think where's the art.

673
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: I guess if.

674
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: We gave a toothbrush to a twenty year old baby,

675
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: like I'm finally in a loss of lawsuit.

676
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: And also watch my TikTok It just my viral and

677
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: terrible boss.

678
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: But I would never do that, all right, So this

679
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: week's headline is Courtney Kardashian addresses viral rumors son Mason,

680
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: fifteen has a baby in a rare statement. Courtney Kardashian

681
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: is shutting down the viral rumors that her fifteen year

682
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: old son Mason has a baby. On Sunday, March second,

683
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: the Kardashian star forty five why did they put the age?

684
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: Shared a rare statement on her Instagram story. I rarely

685
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: address rumors or conspiracies regarding myself or my family, but

686
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: this is about my child, and it feels wrong to

687
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: let anyone think for a second that these lies are

688
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: remotely true. They are not. Mason does not have a child.

689
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: These accounts that pretend to be him are definitely not.

690
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: They're fake. My son really values his privacy, and I'm

691
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: I'm asking all media to please be respectful. He is

692
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: a kid with feelings and a beautiful life ahead of him.

693
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: Please stop spreading false narratives and spinning lies. And to

694
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: all the other people making videos about my kids, who

695
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: by the way, are miners, please stop and leave them alone.

696
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: So first and foremost, you know to her point she

697
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: rarely addresses rumors or conspiracies about herself or family.

698
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: I mean they would be doing it all.

699
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: Day, exhausting every day, like it's the most Like you said,

700
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: it must be like the most exhausting. It would take

701
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: up your entire day because people are always talking about

702
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: them and what's you know, this conspiracy or that or

703
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: when it comes to this though, I'm I saw and

704
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, girl, like one thousand percent, good

705
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: on you, because don't don't talk about kids. Don't don't

706
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: talk about my kids or lies like that. That's that's

707
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: harmful to that child.

708
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 3: I also would say that I think it carries more

709
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: weight because she doesn't comment often, right, which is what

710
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 3: I liked about it. I was like, well, man, Courtney's commenting,

711
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: then it must be something protected. I didn't know, like

712
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: where was this all? Was it a TikTok?

713
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? Or all over TikTok?

714
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: That's so sad?

715
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: Well, so do you know the backstory to kind of

716
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 2: like what happened? Basically, it was a girl that he

717
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: did date or had seen photos of, at least presumably

718
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: dating all of a sudden, has a one year old.

719
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: Then there's an Instagram account where he is, supposedly him,

720
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 2: goes in and answers these questions, says, yes, I had

721
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: a child, her name is Piper, here's photos, and then

722
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 2: it gets scrubbed, you know, a little while later. I

723
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: agree with everything that you've said. I don't know that

724
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: everyone believes her because I think there was a lot

725
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: of other things as well. I think that there's also

726
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: accounts with this girl going on there. When I'm looking

727
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: at it and I'm not saying it's true or not true,

728
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: the kid looks a lot like him, Like, so it's again,

729
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: kids are not kids.

730
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Speaker 3: I'm getting kind of mind exactly right now.

731
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: No, not against me, like I agree.

732
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 3: Feeding into the like it looks like them, you know

733
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: what I mean.

734
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: I understand though, where people went there because he posted it,

735
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 2: Like he literally actually posted, yes I have a kid,

736
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 2: presumably his account.

737
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: Oh it was.

738
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: It was a Q and A and him answering these questions,

739
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: presumably him. They went away all of that. I was

740
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: really happy that she did post it, that she stood

741
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: up for him, of all the things, like if this

742
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: is not true, you absolutely address that. I just worry that,

743
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: not even worry. I hate it for him that it's

744
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: it's going to, in my opinion, probably continue because I

745
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 2: don't think a lot of people are buying it. If

746
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: you go back to TikTok now and you search for

747
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: the stuff, it's basically saying that Courtney Kardashian spent all

748
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: this money to bury it. So there's a lot of

749
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: conspiracies out there, a lot about it. It's it's everywhere

750
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: on TikTok, I mean, and it's like it's crazy, and

751
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: I feel so bad for her, irregardless, in him, irregardless

752
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: if this is true or not true, Like let the

753
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: kid have a baby in private if he wants to also,

754
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I mean, I'm going to

755
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: choose to believe that that's the truth because she put

756
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: out a statement, and I don't think that she would

757
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 2: put out a statement. Does the statement.

758
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: Say it is not his son, or she says he

759
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: does not have a Sien does not have a child.

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00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a daughter.

761
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 3: Sorry, I just was looking for the loophole right for

762
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Speaker 3: a second.

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00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what I was wondering if maybe like.

764
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 3: Honest family. I feel like they have been you guys,

765
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: like we know too much, you know, and they've been

766
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 3: honest about the things that something about and rightfully so

767
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 3: not kids.

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00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 2: They have so gone in private, yeah about a lot

769
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: of things.

770
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: And I respect that so much because it's not their

771
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: and what like we have said things like, oh, I

772
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't have said this about Emmy, or maybe I shouldn't

773
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: have said this about there's we start to really go, Okay,

774
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: We've got to protect the kids, even though yes, we

775
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: show them on social media, and there will be a

776
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: time when I stop showing them so much because they

777
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: also be like, maybe they don't want to be on

778
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: social media, and maybe I should have waited until they

779
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: had a choice.

780
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: But also it is what it is, and that's how

781
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: I started it.

782
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: And absolutely, and I think this is where it gets

783
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: tricky because it seemingly he chose he had been off

784
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: of social media for about a year, he had not

785
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: been on the show. He had not he'd kind of been,

786
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: And I think that's where all this speculation started. Why

787
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: is he not on the show? Where is he what

788
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: is happening? He's not on social media? All those things,

789
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: So I think that's where everyone started speculating about things.

790
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: There also was a TikTok showing a house a house

791
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: in Malibu. I do not know the truth to this,

792
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,479
Speaker 2: but that he had been seen going in and out

793
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 2: of apparently that was linked back to her. Who knows

794
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 2: if that's true. But on the flip side, I can

795
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 2: see where these speculations got to the world we're in now,

796
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: where these speculations got to where they did, because he

797
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: presumably was back on social media and answered that he

798
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: had a child. Her name is Piper. They did date

799
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: these two, I believe. Again I don't true, maybe, but total.

800
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 3: Could he just going to a friend's house and like say, and.

801
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: This is what is so scary about Today's not only

802
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: AI but also I'm not saying true, but there's a

803
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: lot of things that come now on Instagram or social media.

804
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: They're like look at this. I'm like, that is completely

805
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: AI and not true. Then there's other things that you

806
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: know of that that might possibly be true. We don't

807
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: actually know what the truth is because of all this

808
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: AI generated stuff.

809
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: It's scary.

810
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then when it then because now social media

811
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: seems to be where people go for news things and

812
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: spreading information. I don't That's why I'm always like, what's

813
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: the truth?

814
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: Is true? Is this not true? What is like?

815
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: Where is the truth in all of this, and so

816
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: that's my fear with it because do you remember back

817
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: in the day too, where they went on this whole

818
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: conspiracy about how Chloe was Ojay's daughter daughter. You know,

819
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: it's like, how harmful and so sad for her too,

820
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: to have that be a rumor that she's like her father,

821
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: that she was so close to people are speculating that

822
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: that actually wasn't her father because she.

823
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 3: Was so tall was one of the reasons.

824
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: Don't look like you know it's so I think it's

825
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: just this is the part of social media that I

826
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: just find so dangerous and hurtful.

827
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: I'd agree.

828
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: I also think too, this is where it gets tricky

829
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 2: for celebrities and their children to be on social media.

830
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 2: And that's a whole other topic, but that's where it

831
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 2: gets super, super tricky. But at the end of the day,

832
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: we don't even know presumably it wasn't his account, so

833
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: people are making accounts acting like Kim at this point.

834
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: So it's it's a it's a kind of damned if

835
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: you do, damned if you don't situation. But I am

836
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: just saying I can see where people speculated these things,

837
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: but kids are still off limits. I will always agree

838
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: with that.

839
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've yes, I do agree. I've made mistakes

840
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: in that in the past a way as far ago

841
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: of making comments about you know, kid or sure, we

842
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: all have learned lessons, you know what I mean. But

843
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,959
Speaker 1: I will say this, and this is take Now, take

844
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: the Kardashian story. We're closing the door on that.

845
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 3: We're not. That's that's done.

846
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: My question to you girls within this headline is how

847
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: far would you go for your kids and what would

848
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: what lie would you tell? Did you guys ever see

849
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: that movie the TV show The juror not.

850
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: The jur Yes, is that the one?

851
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking to. It's it's the jury.

852
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 2: No, it's the he's the judge.

853
00:40:58,840 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 3: He's a judge.

854
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: So he's the judge in a case his son actually

855
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 1: ended up killing.

856
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 3: This is I mean, this is.

857
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: So sidebarring, but I'm just posing the question because it

858
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: brings up what we would do for our kids and

859
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: what lies we would tell for our kids. So the

860
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: son again, this is this is a story, this isn't

861
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: even a true story. But the son ended up running

862
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: over by accident, complete accident. Comes to find out that

863
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: his son was the one that did it. So he

864
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: then oh, my god, Easton, we're wrong. It's called your honor.

865
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: But yes, that is.

866
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: Right the judge.

867
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: But come to it where.

868
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: You know, he comes home and they have this moment

869
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: where he realizes that he was the one that did it,

870
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: and so then he frames other people, not people, but

871
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: tries to you know, get the him acquitted basically of

872
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: it and never knowing that it was him. What would

873
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: you do for your kids in a situation? How far

874
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: would you lie for your kids in a situation if

875
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: you don't want some what if they did a father

876
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: of a child, or what if they did do X,

877
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: Y and Z, like what would you do to protect

878
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: them in this kind of day and age.

879
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: I think all situations are different.

880
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 3: I'm trying to monitor how much I share.

881
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 2: What did we just know?

882
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: Not that I need to protect anyone, just that this

883
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: is a common kind of what you're going to think

884
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: is wild kind of common conversation in our house because

885
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: I in both sides of the family, we have some

886
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 3: wild enabling. And I am saying there is a full

887
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 3: grown man in our family that is wildly enabled to

888
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 3: the point of like detriment to me, Like we can

889
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: when at what point do you become an adult and

890
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: start handling your stuff. And so I think what gets

891
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: tricky is like, I, you know, I'm talking about a

892
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 3: ten to fifteen I understand, but he didn't get there

893
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: because he was a Yeah, because he was a ten

894
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 3: year old, and then he was a fifteen year old,

895
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 3: and then he was a seventeen year old, and it

896
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: was the wild enabling yep. And so the conversation and

897
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 3: Preston presses this conversation or this question to me often

898
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 3: is he's like, well, what would you do if that

899
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 3: was Legend? And I don't, Okay, no one knows what

900
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 3: they would do until they're in a situation, and no

901
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 3: one knows any situation until they're in it. I firmly

902
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: believe both of those things. I really feel like responsibility.

903
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: You have to face responsibility head on always because if

904
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 3: you lie about something, it always becomes worse, and if

905
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 3: you enable something, it always becomes worse. In my history,

906
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 3: I can't think of a time where that's proven. Otherwise,

907
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: if Legend fathered a child at fifteen, I don't think

908
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: it's anybody's business but our own families, So would you

909
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 3: lie for them if it came out I don't know,

910
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 3: because I think the world eats people alive now and

911
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 3: I think it makes it Having a kid at fifteen

912
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: is already going to be I walked that when I

913
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: was fifteen with friends. Oh, I was like, no, do

914
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: we have do I No? But I had a girlfriend

915
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 3: who had a baby at thirteen, and you know, like

916
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: it's really hard and I can't imagine. I know, I

917
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: can't imagine. If social media was a thing, then people

918
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 3: had enough to say and there was enough judgment cast,

919
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: and there was all you know, so like, imagine that

920
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 3: as a mom, you could take that piece away from them,

921
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 3: the piece that's uneducated and speculating, widely judgmental, and at

922
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: least take that layer off of them. I don't know.

923
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 3: That's just my honest heart.

924
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: I think for me, I have always said, and I've

925
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: not been in this situation yet, I've always said, I've

926
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: always said, you wanted to I'm getting there. I'm getting there.

927
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: I'll let you call yourself out on.

928
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: That is literally my next My first call out is

929
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: that I have always told my kids, and I've always

930
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: said from seeing being in high school, if my kid

931
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 2: gets pulled over and they go to jail, they will

932
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: spend that night in jail, like, I'm not bailing you out.

933
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 2: Having said that, I would like to say, if my

934
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: kid actually killed someone, I wouldn't. I don't know what

935
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: I would do in that situation. To me, that's like

936
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: a whole extreme situation where their life is ruined. The

937
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 2: other side of that is, to me, my kid's life

938
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: is not ruined if they have a kid at actually

939
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: fourteen is when he had this supposed child.

940
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 3: I would say, what help?

941
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 2: I have said that to my children.

942
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: I want you to say what you've said to me.

943
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: I'm saying I will help that kid. Now what you

944
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: said you want to be a hot young grand No,

945
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: I'm saying I will help with that baby.

946
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 3: You're like, I would love to have that.

947
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: I would. I mean love is a strong I wouldn't

948
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 2: really love for my child's because it would be a hard,

949
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: but I would not lie about it. I would probably

950
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: tell I'll just go with it. Let's just say, Kayden,

951
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 2: he's sixteen. I would probably say, get off social media,

952
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: but own it, own your truth, be a good father

953
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: or mother. If it's my daughter and we're gonna do

954
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: this together, that would not bother me. I have always yes,

955
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: I'm the one growing up watching sixteen and pregnant, Like, ooh,

956
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: if my kid got pregnant at sixteen, I'm not bad

957
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: ass grandma that's helping with that kid.

958
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that place I've always remembered that.

959
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: I love it. I gotta say a that's kind of

960
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 2: my calling. I just didn't see that coming. But honestly,

961
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: if I'm being real now with having like a sixteen

962
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: and a thirteen year old, I wanted someone else's kid.

963
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: I'll help you.

964
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: You got in the day like ten years ago, you

965
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I wanted to kids.

966
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: Having said that, though, I would way long ago, right,

967
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 2: so I would step up and we would do it

968
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 2: together and my kid would still go to college.

969
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: Like listen, I'm doing that too. I'm just saying publicly.

970
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 3: I might if I'm a Kardashian, I might not say

971
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: that because I might want it. I don't. I just

972
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: think they just deal with the different level of a wild.

973
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: They do, but they already deal with it. So what

974
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: is I guess maybe what is a little okay? He

975
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: got he got a girl pregnant at fourteen? What is

976
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: any different than anything they've ever faced?

977
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 3: Because he's fifteen, you would.

978
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: Have to read it. It's not it's not him, it's

979
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: not they've already faced it. But for him, that's what

980
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's like his own mental health.

981
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: But he's already well that's why I say he needs

982
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: to get off social media. I think that you can say, yes,

983
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: this is true, please whatever, and then he needs to

984
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: get off social media, and he has to deal with

985
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: the repercussions of getting someone pregnant. You got to step up,

986
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: you got to be a father. He unfortunately, if that

987
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: were true, would have to step up and grow up

988
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: a lot quicker. But that's the reality of what just

989
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: happened to me. That's a little bit of the consequence

990
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 2: of it, the repercussion of it. But social media is brutal.

991
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: I agree, likely People magazine they already rip them apart, I.

992
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: Know, for right or wrong now anyway, so that they do.

993
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: Just keep going, well that's really.

994
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: I mean they have absolutely.

995
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 3: I just haven't seen that.

996
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: Well, there hasn't been any because they're protective saying what

997
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: has happened. Mason's the oldest. Yeah, he's the only one

998
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: for it to happen. But I don't think for a

999
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: second they wouldn't attack it.

1000
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: I don't know that i'd lie, but I don't know

1001
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 3: that I wouldn't, is all I can say.

1002
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: Well, I may not advertise it. Maybe I don't know.

1003
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just learned a lot about you

1004
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: in the last two minutes.

1005
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: Welcome to the family. Like it would be so hard

1006
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 2: for me to be like I have a grandkid and

1007
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: not be like, welcome. I would be so excited about

1008
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: the I kind of do Okay, wow, all right, Okay,

1009
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 2: Well I don't just told them myself there, okay, And

1010
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: they're staying in jail for a day if they go

1011
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 2: to jail.

1012
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 3: I heard that, and I don't doubt that. Actually that's true.

1013
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: Sorry, from kidding real.

1014
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: From Kayley, When you took technology out of the house,

1015
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: how did you do it? Did you wean it out?

1016
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: Did you use a certain method? Is all technology cut out?

1017
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: Do you use it rewards?

1018
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: Et cetera.

1019
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 1: Definitely know there is a need to take it away

1020
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: from our eight almost nine year old as well, but

1021
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: sometimes we just need it. He's so creative and smart.

1022
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: But we'll throw fits about putting it away, doing what

1023
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: doing what is supposed to be done, et cetera. And

1024
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: now he is starting to become anxious about different things

1025
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: and tells us how bad he is at sports, if

1026
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: he isn't perfect doing it all the time, if he

1027
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: isn't perfect doing it for the first time. I honestly

1028
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: think a lot of it has to do has to

1029
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: tie to his technology and reliance on that. Any help

1030
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: resources or whatever you used would be super helpful.

1031
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 2: I have technology so much well.

1032
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: So I think that's what the good debate is, right.

1033
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: So I think you know, Chris and I are on

1034
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: the You started the you paved the way I believe

1035
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: of taking the pads iPads away. Yeah, and we didn't

1036
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 1: use them a ton to begin with, so I will

1037
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: say I need to say that because I think it's

1038
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 1: easier to take them away when they're not often right.

1039
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: And I think where we fell into the habit was

1040
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: during quiet time Jolie would get her iPad, and then

1041
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: with Jase, he never really liked his iPad, but there

1042
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: was a moment where there was a lot of iPad

1043
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: watching at a different household, and so I started to

1044
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: see how different my son was being, and then what

1045
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: it was doing to Jolie. She became so addicted to

1046
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: it that then when they'd come here. It was constantly

1047
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: asking about it, constantly wanting to be on it. They

1048
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: would think if they did something, great, Okay, so I

1049
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: did this, Does that mean I get my iPad? And

1050
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, this is not a reward, Like technology

1051
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: is actually not a reward. Just because you did a

1052
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: chore does not mean okay, now you get to get

1053
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: your iPad? Like where is this coming from? So I

1054
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: wanted to break that habit, just like with snacks and

1055
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: desserts and all that too, Like I don't I'm trying

1056
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: to rework that too, Like, well, Mammy, I ate on

1057
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: my dinner.

1058
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:56,479
Speaker 3: Do I get a dessert?

1059
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 1: I'm like no, that's not like you should eat your dinner,

1060
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: you know, like that is what you should do. But

1061
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: for Jolie and then learning more about the dyslexia too,

1062
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: and how screens and technology is not good. Seeing the

1063
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: games that Jace was playing and knowing more about the

1064
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: chat room things. I know you can go private on

1065
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: that stuff, but I didn't like how he was acting

1066
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: with all the roblocks crap that he was playing, and

1067
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: I just cold turkey took it away. Now did they

1068
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: have it on the planes? And when we were in Scotland. Yes,

1069
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: they were sick and that was the tool that I

1070
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: needed to be helpful in for that time. But you know,

1071
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: since then, they had it on an airplane to fall

1072
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: Break in October and that's the last time they've touched

1073
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: their iPad. Jolie now has a drawing pad, but that's

1074
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: still limited. She can only draw on it. That's that's

1075
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: literally all she can do on it. But that I

1076
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: even limit that. So for me and my kids, I

1077
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: just see what it started to do and then how

1078
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: they were acting with it, and I just I want

1079
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Speaker 1: them to go play outside. I want them to be creative.

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Speaker 1: And now they don't ever ask, they don't ever you know,

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Speaker 1: want to go on it, and you know they get

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Speaker 1: the video games and all that at their dads, so

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Speaker 1: you know, fine, I just know, here is it. Let's

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Speaker 1: let's actually play and be creative. And that's what works

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Speaker 1: for my kids. I understand it's a great tool for

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Speaker 1: other parents, and I know you use it for the

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Speaker 1: reasons you want to use it, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: does Ramsey even have her iPad a lot.

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Speaker 2: Or it depends on the season. Honestly, my kids will

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Speaker 2: choose to go outside. I mean now that they're older,

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Speaker 2: but like they would choose that over having said that

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Speaker 2: in the winter and stuff like that. Yeah, she's been

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Speaker 2: on it more, but she They all have screen time,

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Speaker 2: they all have a certain amount of time they can

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Speaker 2: be on it.

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Speaker 3: What do you limit it to? I'm curious, like what

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Speaker 3: everyone's limit is.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's is different. Ramsey's is two hours. I think one hour.

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Speaker 2: I heard it might be when.

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Speaker 1: An hour and a half is something that is there

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Speaker 1: was something there was some study done about, but believe

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Speaker 1: it was.

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Speaker 2: And we have to keep in mind, which this is

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Speaker 2: probably making me even worse, but we have to keep

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Speaker 2: in mind our kids are on a computer all day

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Speaker 2: at school? Well are they Yeah, that's where they do

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Speaker 2: all their work.

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Speaker 3: Jace jac does have a chromebook. He only does Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Chromebook maybe in kindergarten, but like, yeah, Ramsey, I mean

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Speaker 2: as they get older, especially I mean Ramsey might not

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Speaker 2: be on it all day, but like she's on it.

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Speaker 2: Like they have chromebooks that they take to and from school.

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Speaker 2: So we have to also keep that in mind for

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Speaker 2: how much technology they're getting, you know, So I'm kind

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Speaker 2: of calling myself out there at that point, because they're

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Speaker 2: getting technology that's what they do, and I don't like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that they're on their computers. I mean

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Speaker 2: everything middle school, in high school, everything is on a computer.

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Speaker 2: You can't see their tests anymore. It's all all on.

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Speaker 3: It's tricky though, right, Like the reason I even introduced

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Speaker 3: an iPad to them, and I introduced it late, was

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Speaker 3: because I'm like, well, essentially, they need to know how

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Speaker 3: to be in their world. Like their world is.

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Speaker 2: It's the computer. You have to know how to win,

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Speaker 2: and you have to know how to do all that.

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Speaker 3: We were at like the very beginning of the big

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Speaker 3: fat this this makes us sound so old, but like

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Speaker 3: those big computers sitting in our classrooms, and it helped

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Speaker 3: us be a little more intuitive as we got older

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Speaker 3: and into the speaking was how I learned to type.

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Speaker 3: I think it mattered how fast you tie, was like

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Speaker 3: all of that. So like I introduced it, going, okay,

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Speaker 3: you need to be this needs to be a little

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Speaker 3: intuitive to you because this is your world.

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Speaker 2: So it's just really tragitives and negative too. I think

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Speaker 2: that you know, social media I could have some complaints about,

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Speaker 2: but I have not had a need in my house.

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Speaker 2: Minus I have screen time, so I can I control it.

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Speaker 2: I make sure it's off at a certain time so

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Speaker 2: the older ones go to bed or they would stay

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Speaker 2: up on it. But besides that, I've had no issues,

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Speaker 2: so I've had no reason to take it away. They

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Speaker 2: all know and there have been consequences for things where

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Speaker 2: they've been taken away or they have no phone at

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Speaker 2: all or whatever it is. But they know that I

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Speaker 2: can take it away at any point if they do anything,

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Speaker 2: you know, But I haven't had a reason, so I haven't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did not love who Legend was when he

1149
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Speaker 3: was on that.

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Speaker 2: I've never had that tree with you and I don't

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Speaker 2: even mine don't watch TV, but they never.

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Speaker 1: Back in the day because if we're talking boys, it

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Speaker 1: was the same thing with the boys was Kayden wasn't

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Speaker 1: iPads back in the day like when you and.

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Speaker 2: He was not, but he didn't he didn't watch TV.

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Speaker 2: Is still the kid that like would go outside no,

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Speaker 2: like I mean his back is hurt right now, but

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Speaker 2: like he's outside sports. They kind of ish all are.

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Speaker 2: Emmy's so busy with cheer that I also give her

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Speaker 2: some credit there that she needs to just chill out

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Speaker 2: sometimes because she's so active all the time. I could

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Speaker 2: see where it could become an issue with Ramsey. It

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Speaker 2: did a little bit this winter. But she doesn't throw fits,

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Speaker 2: she doesn't get mad if I tell her to turn

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Speaker 2: it off. She doesn't zone out, which I mean, I

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Speaker 2: know a lot of kids zone out. Yeah, that would

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Speaker 2: that would bother me, if I can. I remember that

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Speaker 2: about Jolie, and that would be crazy. Yeah. So I

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Speaker 2: just think it's to each their own, and I think

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Speaker 2: what's better and where you know.

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Speaker 3: Like I think, if you're asking the question, you know

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Speaker 3: what you need to do usually.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like, how do you do it if

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Speaker 1: it's ruling the if if it's how do I say that?

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Speaker 1: If it's the one running the ship, then that ship

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Speaker 1: needs to be taken down? Yeah, that's the question that's

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Speaker 1: always posed or the problem. Then eliminate the problem. I think.

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Speaker 3: I think most parents would be pleasantly surprised how much

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Speaker 3: easier it is.

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Speaker 1: I was shocked how easy it was. Yes, like I think,

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00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: yes so quickly. Yeah, yeah, I thought it was going

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Speaker 1: to be a huge struggle.

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00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 3: No it wasn't. All right, ladies, see you next week.

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Speaker 3: Bye bye.

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Speaker 4: By