1 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: It's the Son of a Butcher podcast. We come to 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: you every Wednesday. 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: The Pot is back. Took a couple weeks off, took 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: a much needed holiday last week. 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: I've been in Europe. This is week four on the 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: road for me. So and I am at the Open 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: Championship Hoylake for the last major of the year. And 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: what are we going to get? John Ram wins the Masters. 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: We have brooks Kepka winning the PGA, Wyndham Clark winning 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: the US Open and now Hoylake. Who is going to 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: lift the claret jug defending champion is cam Smith. Cam 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: one recently about a week week ago on Live and 13 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: Roy McElroy won on Sunday at the Scottish Open. So 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: they were the two that were fighting down the stretch 15 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: at St Andrews last year. They're both coming in here 16 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: in fantastic form. Are they going to make a run? 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: I think obviously everyone is expecting Roy McElroy. 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: To make one, make a run. 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: He won here in two thousand and fourteen. He comes 20 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: off of winning the Scottish Open and he got it done. 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: I think the way that he won the Scottish Open 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: very very windy link style golf course which believe it 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: or not, hasn't always suited Rory's game. When he did 24 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: win in twenty fourteen, obviously it wasn't the kind of 25 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: Classic Open championship conditions, but. 26 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: He got it done. 27 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: I thought it was a really big win for him, 28 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: coming off the way he played at the US Open, 29 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: and I think Roy's got a point to prove. I 30 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: think with everything that's happened over the last year, all 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: the stuff that happened with Live, the current situation, with 32 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: where we are today, which if you can tell me 33 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: where we are today in professional golf more than I do, 34 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: because I still think we're a lot in the dark 35 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: as to what actually is going to happen. But I 36 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: definitely think Rory comes in here playing some amazing golf. 37 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: And I had a ringside see I was down at 38 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: the Live tournament and watched Cam Smith. He shot sixty 39 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: three one day and hit nine greens his short game. 40 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: But the way he puts the golf ball, I just 41 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: don't know if you can find someone that puts the 42 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: ball better than him right now. He is a pure, 43 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: pure putter, very similar to the runs that we've seen 44 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: Jordan Speith get on. Cam has this amazing ability to 45 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: make twenty five thirty footers when he needs to. Sometimes 46 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: it's for Birdie, sometimes it's for Parr. And I think 47 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: because he puts so well, it kind of overshadows how 48 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: just ridiculous his short game is, which is it's pretty dirty. 49 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: His short game is unbelievable. He played a practice round, 50 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: so yesterday Tuesday, played a ninth hole practice round. It 51 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: was Brooks Koepka, the Ryder Cup captain, Zach Johnson, and 52 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: then Adam Scott and Cam Smith and I got to 53 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: walk nine holes, got to watch Cam and I talked 54 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: to him a little bit about his putting. And I 55 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: think it's something that anytime you're around someone that does 56 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: something so well, I want to try and ask them 57 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: as much as I can about how they do it, 58 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: why they do it. And I've heard Cam before talk 59 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: about how he doesn't have a lot of mechanics. But 60 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: his coach, Grant Field, who I had on the pod 61 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: about month month and a half ago, if you haven't 62 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: had a chance to check that one out, it's fantastic. 63 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: But Cam kind of does the same thing every time 64 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: when he warms up. He uses a putting mirror for 65 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: his eyeline. 66 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: But in talking to Grant. 67 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: One of the things that he works really really hard 68 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: on is aiming the putter and consistently aiming the putter 69 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: for the line that he's choosing. Yeah, so obviously everyone 70 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: listening is going to say, yeah. I mean, of course, you. 71 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 2: Can be a good putter if you aim the putter. 72 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: But ask yourself how diligent and how constant you focus 73 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: on aiming the putter. I think a lot of people 74 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: are worried about their stroke. They're worried about the mechanics 75 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: of their stroke. But you've got one of the best 76 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: putters on the planet and one of the best putters 77 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: I've ever seen, and he doesn't really have any mechanical thoughts, 78 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: and he focuses a lot on aiming the putter consistently. 79 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: But I think we were on the sixth or seventh 80 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: green yesterday and I said to him, he was, you know, 81 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: hitting some putts, and I said, you know, what do 82 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: you think about when you putt? And he said, I 83 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: don't really think that much, but what I do think 84 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: about a lot is the speed that the ball is 85 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: going to go in the hole. And again, that's another 86 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: kind of comment that sounds like a throwaway comment. 87 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 88 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: Obviously the speed at which the ball goes in the 89 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: hole is important. But for a guy like Cam, I mean, 90 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: he's focusing on aiming the putter consistently, and he's focusing 91 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: on the speed at which the ball is going in 92 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: the hole. He said that he likes to pick out 93 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: a spot and kind of putt to that kind of 94 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: general area of where that spot is. But when you 95 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: watch his stroke, he definitely doesn't have that long follow 96 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: through that I see a lot of players struggle with. 97 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: There is definitely a hit. It's something that my dad 98 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 1: believes very very strongly in I think Tiger Woods, who's 99 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: one of the greatest pure putters of all time, as well, 100 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: there is a definite hit. And I think if you're 101 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: struggling with your putter, one of the thoughts that you 102 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: could use is creating a consistent collision between the club 103 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: and the ball how you strike the golf ball when 104 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: you putt. And Cam hits a lot of really good putts, 105 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: as all great putters do. And one of the other 106 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: things that my dad always says about great putters is 107 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: their putts have the go in look. Cam's putts always 108 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: have the go in look. They always look like they're 109 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: going in. So I think he comes into this week 110 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: as defending champion on good form, having just won. He 111 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: knows how to get it done. He knows what it 112 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: takes to win a major championship, and he knows what 113 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: it takes to win a Claret Juck. As I mentioned, 114 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: Rory comes back twenty fourteen. He won here seventeen under. 115 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: Ricky Fowler finished fifteen under in twenty fourteen, Ricky just 116 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: coming off I think one of the most important wins 117 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: of his career. He'd gone three years without a win. 118 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: It's the job done a couple weeks ago at Rocket 119 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: Mortgage in Detroit, and I think that was a huge, 120 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: huge win. He's finished second here before. Does Ricky now 121 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: find some form in the major championships? But I think 122 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: Rory will come here with a lot of self belief. 123 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: He'll obviously come back. 124 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: Here knowing that he is won here before and lifted 125 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: a Cleric jug. I think the I wouldn't say it's 126 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: the difficulty, but the constant theme with Rory McElroy is 127 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: he won two majors in twenty fourteen. He won here 128 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: at Hoylake and then he won the PGA at Valhalla. 129 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: And I've said this before on the pod. I've said 130 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: this before in interviews. If someone told you in twenty 131 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: fourteen that in twenty twenty three, when we came back 132 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: to Hoylake, that brooks Kepka would have more majors than 133 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: Rory McElroy, I think people would be surprised. I don't 134 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: say that because like coach brooks Kepka. I say that 135 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: because to me, that's a testament to the greatness of 136 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: Roy McRoy. I think most people in twenty fourteen when 137 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: he won here at Hoylake, I think most people would 138 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: have they never would have believed that he didn't win 139 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: double digit majors by now. That's how prolific his talent is. 140 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: That's how dominant Rory can be. But it has been 141 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: nine years since he's won a major championship. And I 142 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: don't think it's a question of if Roy McRoy is 143 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: going to win another major. I think it's a question 144 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: of when. But when that happens, I think it's important. 145 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: I think the longer he goes without if he goes 146 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: another cycle this year in twenty twenty three, with everything 147 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: that's been going on, with everything that he volunteered, for 148 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: with the PGA Tour, with everything that the PGA Tour 149 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: asked him to do. I think it's interesting that no 150 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: press conference at the US Open. I don't think he 151 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: had a press conference at Hartford. There was no press 152 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: conference last week at the Scottish Open, and I don't 153 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: think he's done a press conference yet here at the 154 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: Open Championship now. For someone that has been a very, 155 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: very vocal spokesperson for the PGA Tour, I think it's 156 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that someone that has been the 157 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: most vocal person in the game has chosen not to 158 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: do press conferences. 159 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: I don't know what to read into that. 160 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: Rory said it Hartford he was just going to get 161 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: back to playing golf, didn't want to answer a lot 162 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: of the live questions that he was constantly getting asked, 163 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: and then in Scotland last week said if liv was 164 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: the only tour that he was going to play on, 165 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: he'd retire. So I think the longer Rory goes without 166 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: winning another major, the louder the drums are going to beat. 167 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: And I think he is one one of the favorites 168 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: this week. I think he's I think you can tell 169 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: that he feels like he is out to prove something. 170 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: He's out to prove that he is Rory McElroy. 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I was here in twenty 210 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: fourteen and I wanted to share an interesting story. 211 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: It was funny. 212 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: We went out yesterday and played a practice round and 213 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: we were waiting for the group in front of us 214 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: to go off on the first hole and Adam Scott 215 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: was there and Brooks was there, and Scotty and Brooks 216 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: were there first and they said, hey, you want to 217 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: play and Scotty said yeah, I've got cam Smith to 218 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: join us. And I was like, Brooks was like cool, 219 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: and then Zach Johnson joined. Who's the Ryder Cup Captain? 220 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people read into that yesterday. 221 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: That wasn't by design. I was walking up to the eight, 222 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: walking up to the first t and Zach Dunton was 223 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: walking along beside me and he came up and said. 224 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 2: Are you go? 225 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: Are you guys going out? His Brooks going out? I 226 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: said yeah, he's going out right now and he said, 227 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: oh cool, I'll join up. I thought it was really good. 228 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: There were a lot of really good conversations. They talked 229 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: a lot about the Ryder Cup, and they talked a 230 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: lot about the selection, which I think you'll you'll all 231 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: be hearing more about as we get closer to the 232 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: Ryder Cup. But I think it was really important. You know, 233 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: Zach made a comment that the Ryder Cup is the 234 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: Ryder Cup. It's not the PGA Tour Ryder Cup, It's 235 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: the Ryder Cup, and he wanted the best players from 236 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: the United States playing on that team. So whatever side 237 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: you're on of this live PGA Tour debate, you're going 238 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: to see pretty positive you're gonna see Brooks kept on 239 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: this team. And I wouldn't be surprised if you see 240 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: on the American side, if you saw another live player. 241 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people listening that won't like that. 242 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: But unless they changed the rules, brooks Keepka most likely 243 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: is qualified for that team. And I think Zach is 244 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: going to look at other players and how they are playing, 245 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: and if that player is playing on live. It seemed 246 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: to me that Zach didn't seem to be against picking 247 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: players that are playing well, regardless of where they're playing. So, 248 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: but in twenty fourteen, I had set up I was 249 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: working with Ernie Els at the time and had set 250 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: up for Ernie Els to play. 251 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: A practice round with Brooks. 252 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: And you know, Ernie was a big, you know, big 253 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: star at the time, had won they had won his 254 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: fourth major in twenty twelve up at Mirfield, and he 255 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: was a four time major champion, and any time that 256 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: I could get Brooks out with a guy like Ernie El's, 257 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: it was a great learning experience for Brooks. My dad 258 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: used to do that for Tiger Woods when he was 259 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: growing up, when he was younger and qualifying for all 260 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: these majors. He'd set up for him to play with 261 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: Greg Norman, He'd set up for him to play with 262 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: Sevi Bias Steros, He'd set up for him to play 263 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: with Raymond Floyd, some of the old school, old guard guys. 264 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: And that's one of the ways I think Tiger learned. 265 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: He learned how the greats of the past did things, 266 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: and I think it was a huge part of Tiger's 267 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: learning curve. That was something that was really important for 268 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: me at that early stage of Brooks's career. But obviously 269 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: Brooks idolizes like everybody does. They idolized Tiger Woods. But 270 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: Brooks's real idol and he had a serious man crush 271 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: on him and still a little bit does today. Was 272 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: Adam Scott. I mean Scott, he has always been you know, 273 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: the golf swing, the way that Adam care himself, the professionalism. 274 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: Adam is a very, very classy classy player, and he's 275 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: a classy person both on and off the golf course. 276 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: So I knew that Adam was going to join us 277 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: for that practice round, but I didn't tell Brooks. And 278 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: it was so funny that day back in twenty fourteen, 279 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: Adam walked onto the he was walking towards the first 280 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: tea and Brooks was like, is Scotty joining us? And 281 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, Scotty's joining us in the group, 282 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: and he was pretty nervous. Adam had never met him, 283 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: and I asked Brooks and I asked Adam yesterday, who's 284 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: the fourth in the group. And I'm drawing a blank. 285 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: They're drawing a blank. I'm sure it'll come back to 286 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: me at some point. But they played a match and 287 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: Ernie said, what's the team's and Scotty said, well, I'll 288 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: take Brooks. And so it was raining, it was blowing. 289 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: Adam had Stevie Williams on the bag and so everybody 290 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: got up. First hole is a little dog leg from 291 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: right to left. I mean, one of the things about 292 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: Hoylake is it is it favors long hitters, and it 293 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: favors people that can drive the golf ball. And you're 294 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: going to need to drive the golf ball well this 295 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: week if you're going to have a chance to win, 296 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: because you can get it in a bunker up against 297 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: face and you're looking at making double. You can hit 298 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: it offline, get a bad lie, hit it in a 299 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: gorse bush, hit it in the thick, thick rough and 300 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: you're staring double bogie in the face. So everybody gets 301 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: up and hits Ernie gets up and hits Adam the 302 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: other player. 303 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: Drive me crazy. I can't remember who this is. 304 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: And then Brooks got up and just absolutely hammered a drive. 305 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, not everybody hit their best drive 306 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: on that first hole back in twenty fourteen. But Brooks 307 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: stood up and just hit a hammer fade. And we 308 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: were walking down the fairway and Stevie Williams looked at 309 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: me and he said, where's this kid play? I said, well, 310 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: he's just finished fourth in the US Open at Pinehurst 311 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: that Martin Kimer won. He was on the Challenge Tour, 312 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: and you know he's playing, you know, half in Europe, 313 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: half in the States. And Stevie said, man, that's sound 314 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: with the driver. That's a different sound. And I think 315 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: Brooks knocked it stiff on the first hole. Birdied the 316 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: first hole and Scotty said, well, that's my partner. And 317 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: you could just see that that Brooks was some of 318 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: the nervousness that he had. 319 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 2: But there I think the rain really. 320 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: Came in that day, and I think what we played 321 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: played one to three four. 322 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 2: I think we played. 323 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: About five six holes and Brooks never missed a shot 324 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: and it was blowing twenty and it was raining sideways 325 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: and there was a par five I want to say 326 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: six maybe and straight in the wind. Brooks hammered a 327 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: drive and he hit this low bullet stinger three two 328 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: iron underneath the wind, got it up on the front edge. 329 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: And Stevie Williams, who you know Caddy Tiger for all 330 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: of his major championships, just said the majority of them 331 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: except the one in twenty nineteen, just said, man. 332 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: That's different. 333 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: And in later years Stevie went on to write an artist, 334 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, got asked about, you know, good players, and 335 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: he said, you know, the quality of strike that he 336 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: saw Brooks kept at a very very young age, and 337 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: I think it was really interesting, you know, coming back, 338 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about that practice round and in 339 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, a lot yesterday when we were in the 340 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: practice round with Adam scott and we were talking about, 341 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, just I was talking with Scottie about how 342 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: crazy things have become and how everyone's lives have changed 343 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: and where everybody was in twenty fourteen versus where they 344 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: are in twenty and twenty three, and it was pretty special, man. 345 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: It was a proud moment for me and and looking 346 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: at you know, that was right at the beginning. I 347 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: think I was two years in and working with Brooks 348 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: and to think that, you know, almost a decade later, 349 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: he's got five majors and has done all the things 350 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: that he's done and gotten to number one in the world, 351 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: and you don't get those moments off in life, those 352 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: those moments to kind of reflect, and Scotty and I 353 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: talked a lot about it yesterday. You couldn't talk about 354 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: Hoylake without two thousand and six. I was here for 355 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: that Open Championship as well. Tiger Woods won eighteen under 356 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: one driver the entire week. It's one of the hottest 357 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: major championships that I've ever been to. It was a 358 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: absolute heat wave here outside of Liverpool. There were no 359 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: fans to be bought. Everyone was there's not a lot 360 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: of air conditioning in the houses that everyone's staying in 361 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: in the hotels, and it was a heat wave. 362 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: It was in the mid nineties. 363 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: Every day the golf course was like concrete. It was 364 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: the fairways were like runway. The balls were bouncing, the 365 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: balls were rolling, and it was ridiculously hot. There wasn't 366 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of wind, and other than the first day. 367 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: For the last three rounds, Tiger, if I remember correctly, 368 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: I don't think Tiger he had one driver all week, 369 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: and I think it was in the first round. So 370 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, he never hit a driver. 371 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: He basically just hit a lot of stingers, a lot 372 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: of irons. The ball was going miles And in two 373 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: thousand and six, I mean that was when Tiger Woods 374 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: was you know, head and shoulders above the rest. He 375 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: was in full kind of old school Tiger mode. Was 376 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: working with Hank Haney at that time. His win percentage 377 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: was through the roof and it was not long after 378 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: his father died. And I think everybody remembers if Tiger 379 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: on the last hole when he putted out kind of 380 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, collapsing in Stevie Williams's arms and you know, 381 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: crying his eyes out because it was the first major 382 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: championship that he was going to win without his father 383 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: being able to see it. And I think it showed 384 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: a very very human side of Tiger that you know, 385 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: not of people have ever really gotten to see. So 386 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: two thousand and six Tiger Woods eighteen under, twenty fourteen, 387 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: Rory McElroy seventeen under. I mean, we went out today. 388 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 1: I was in a practice round today Wednesday. It was 389 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: Brooks DJ and Gary Woodland and it was raining when 390 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: we teed off, and you know, I thought maybe they 391 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: would play only nine holes, but everybody said, listen, we're 392 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: probably going to have to play in the rain unless 393 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: it's lightning. 394 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: They don't really stop. 395 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: Play at the Open Championship unless it's really really high winds. 396 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: These are link style golf courses, so there's no water 397 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: that's going to collect on any of these greens because 398 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: they're you know, they're so sandy, and that's one of 399 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: the great things about links golf. But it was windy today. 400 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: It was really windy yesterday afternoon for the practice. 401 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 2: Round that I walked, and then. 402 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: Walked eighteen today and it rained pretty much NonStop, not 403 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: torrential rain, but the umbrellas were up, just a steady, steady, 404 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: that kind of Open Championship rain that we've seen in 405 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: the past where you know, the telecast comes on and 406 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: the conditions aren't good and everybody knows the conditions aren't. 407 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: Going to be good. 408 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: So the caddies in the group, Butchi who caddies for 409 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: Gary Woodland, Ricky Eliatoro caddies for Brooks, and then Austin Johnson, 410 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: a J who caddies for DJ. They were talking about 411 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: where the wind was. They were talking about, you know, 412 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: with their respective players. A lot of it was what 413 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: were the carry numbers to the bunkers, what were short 414 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: numbers to the bunkers, and that. 415 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: I've said this before. I love the practice runs. 416 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: I love going out and being able to watch the interaction, 417 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: especially on a difficult day today where the caddies, you know, 418 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: the caddies are soaked, right, the player takes the umbrella. 419 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: There's only one umbrella on the bag and the player 420 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: is going. 421 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: To take it. 422 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: So I always had practice rounds if we're walking around, 423 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: try and get the umbrella over some of the caddies, 424 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: and they all said today and don't bother because I'm 425 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: already soaked and I'm not going to get any dryer. 426 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: So but it was really really windy. It was it 427 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: was rainy, and it's it's this is a difficult golf course. 428 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: You have to drive the golf ball in play off 429 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: the team, obviously, I think everybody knows that. But when 430 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: the conditions get really, really tough, when the grips are wet, 431 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: when it's windy, when the umbrella's up, when the umbrella's down, 432 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: when the players trying to get underneath the umbrella to 433 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: get the club and the caddies are trying to get 434 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: the towels keep the towels dry, it gets dicey out there, 435 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: and I think you can you can hit some bad 436 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: shots just because it's hard to get one hundred prepared 437 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: in the time that you've got because of all of 438 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: the things that you're trying to do from a playing standpoint. 439 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: You're trying to get the yardage, you're trying to keep 440 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: the clubs clean, it's raining, you're trying to keep the 441 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: umbrella up. So I think that's one of the difficulties 442 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: in playing in this But I don't think it's going 443 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: to be warm enough over the next four days for 444 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: there to be really any lightning, and so they are 445 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: into play and they were going to play through whatever 446 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: the conditions that are out there or out there. So 447 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: I think the forecast as always is late early the break, 448 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: or is early late the break. 449 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: You'd never know. 450 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: And I think out of all of the major championships, 451 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: this one can somewhat be down, not so much to luck, 452 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: but based off of if there is severe weather, there 453 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: is probably going to be one morning or one afternoon 454 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: where the weather is better where the front is blowing 455 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: in in the afternoon or the front blew out in 456 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: the afternoon. I'm looking outside right now and it's not raining. 457 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't look very windy. So today would have been 458 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: an example of a day to where it rained pretty 459 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: much NonStop until gosh, we went out to hit balls 460 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: and it just started. DJ just started to hit balls 461 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: right around nine thirty ten o'clock this morning, and halfway 462 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: through that he was teeing off with the guys around eleven, 463 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: and really about halfway through that warm up, it basically 464 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: just started the rain. So the umbrella went up and 465 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: it basically rained from about eleven until they teed off 466 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: at eleven, and it rained solid until we got to 467 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: around the fourteenth fifteenth hole. We finished right around three 468 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: o'clock this afternoon. So there's an example of let's say 469 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: you teed off late. Let's say you're one of the 470 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: afternoon players. The guys in the morning are just gonna 471 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: stay and play in constant, steady rain, and the guys 472 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: in the afternoon might get conditions to where the rain stops, 473 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: the wind dies down, and the golf course then becomes 474 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 1: wet and it becomes somewhat gettable to where there's pins 475 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: that you could go at that maybe you couldn't go 476 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: out in the morning. I think a lot of trying 477 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: to aim for the center of these greens, not worrying 478 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 1: about where the flag is. And then there's there's some 479 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: quirky things about this the third hole, all the way 480 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: down the right hand side, there's basically directly off the 481 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: right side of the freeway there's internal out of bounds. 482 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: So if you block a t shot at all at 483 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: the third hole, your reteam because it's going to go 484 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: out of bounds if you hit it to the right, 485 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: and then do you overcompensate for that and pull it left, 486 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: and then you get out very much like a Links 487 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: golf course. This golf course starts right by the clubhouse, 488 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: goes all the way out to the tenth hole, and 489 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: then eleven you turn back. Are you turning back into 490 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: the wind? Are you turning back downwind? I think sometimes 491 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: downwind here at the Open Championship, when the wind really 492 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: does get up, can be as difficult as into the wind, 493 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: because you're trying to figure out how that's going to 494 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: affect is going to knock. 495 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 2: The ball out of the guy? 496 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: The greens then start to get really, really firm, so 497 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: I think it is going to be a very very 498 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: good test. One of the things that a lot of 499 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: players and caddies and everyone is talking about is the 500 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: redesign of the seventeenth hole. 501 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: It's a short part three. 502 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: There have been a couple of people that have made 503 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: some really I guess controversial comments. You could make anything there. 504 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: You could be trying to hit the middle of the 505 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: green and if you don't stop it, you could land 506 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: it on the putting surface. It could roll off and 507 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: you could make X. You could make bogie, you could 508 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: make double, you could make quad. I think we could 509 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: see people on a short par three. I think you 510 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: could see some eight nines, maybe even some double digit 511 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: numbers because the bunkering is so severe. They've redesigned it 512 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: to where you're hitting up to a plateau and there 513 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: is a tremendous amount of runoff area. To the right 514 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: of the seventeenth hole, there are deep bunkers. There's a 515 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: big cavernous bunker front left. 516 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: In talking to. 517 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: The players today, they thought that maybe the left bunker, 518 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: that is green side, might be the play. If you're 519 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: going to miss it, that might be a better up 520 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: and down. But if you're hitting something and the prevailing 521 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: wind takes this ball down to the right of the 522 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: seventeenth green, you're I mean, do you try and putt it? 523 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: Do you try and chip it? You try and hit 524 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: it into the bank, and there's not a lot of 525 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: room on the green. The green has all of these 526 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: kind of false front there's a big false front at 527 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: the front edge over the back of the green is 528 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: dead because it runs off and then runs into some thick, thick, nasty, 529 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: nasty stuff. Massive fall off to the right hand side. 530 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: Left looked a little bit easier of an up and down, 531 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: but regard depending on where they put the pins, it's 532 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: going to be very, very difficult. I think it's to 533 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: be controversial. There are I've heard some players, some caddies 534 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: that say, listen, it could you could have a one 535 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: to two shot lead and make X make a seven 536 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: and lose the tournament on one hole. A lot of 537 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: players are liking it to the seventeenth hole at TPC, 538 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: meaning that it comes very very late in the round. 539 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: It's a short iron. You're probably only going to be 540 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: hitting regular conditions. I think today it was right around 541 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty yards, so guys are chipping wedges. 542 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: But if the wind gets up, you're going to have 543 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: to make a full swing to an elevated green to 544 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: where you can't really see a lot. And will the 545 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: seventeenth hole, which has been redesigned, will that play a 546 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: big role in the outcome of this tournament. 547 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 2: I think time will tell. 548 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: But this is one of my favorite of the majors. 549 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: It is a true open. I love the fact that 550 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: you've got so many players here from so many different countries. 551 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: It's a good one. 552 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: And you know, I was lucky enough to work with 553 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: Ernie Als in twenty twelve and I got to catch 554 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: up with Ernie. He plays on the champions Tour. Now, 555 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: even though we live in Jupiter, live in the same place, 556 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: I don't really get to see Orny that often, and 557 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: normally over the last four or five years, it's always 558 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: around the Open Championship. So I saw him yesterday. 559 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: It was great. 560 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: Got to give him a big hug, and you know, 561 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: we talked about, you know, that Open Championship that he 562 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: won in twenty twelve and how special that was. And 563 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: he was so funny. He made a comment and he 564 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: was he swore and he said, man, Brooks has got 565 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: one more major than I do, and he's got five 566 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: and I've only got four. 567 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: In it you could tell it. It pisses Ernie off. 568 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: He's a great champion. 569 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: Obviously he's happy for Brooks, but you know, I love 570 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: that about Ernie, the competitive spirit. But it was great 571 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: to catch up with Ernie. He's such a great champion. 572 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,479 Speaker 1: He's won a Cleric Drug twice, two time US Open Champion, 573 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: and a two time Open champion, So it was great 574 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: to catch up with him. And like I said, this 575 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite tournaments of the year. I'm 576 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: a little biased as a coach. It was the first 577 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: major championship that I was a part of on the 578 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: winning side Whin or Anyone here or Royal Live Them 579 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. So the Open Championship is always very 580 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: special for me. I prefer it when it's in Scotland, 581 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: which that's controversial, that's controversial, But I think we're going 582 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: to have a great tournament. And like I said, earlist 583 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: by third one that I've been to at Hoylake and 584 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: I saw some great golf when Tiger Woods won. There 585 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: was some amazing golf when Rory McIlroy won in twenty fourteen. 586 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: Does Rory get to five? Does he get to five majors? 587 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: Does he end the major season this year with the 588 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: major that everybody. 589 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: Wants him to win. 590 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: He wants to win it, The fans want to want 591 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: him to win it. The PGA Tour definitely wants him 592 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: to win it. And I think we're in for a 593 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: great week always, always, always, this Major Championship, more than 594 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: any will throw up a maybe not an unknown but 595 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: maybe not a household name, not a superstar that will 596 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: be on the leaderboard deep into Sunday. And is it 597 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: a Cinderella story? Does someone come out of nowhere like 598 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: Todd Hamilton did it truon in two thousand and four. 599 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: I believe or. 600 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: Do we get the usual cast to characters, but I 601 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: think there are a lot of players playing really really 602 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: well right now, and if the last three Majors or 603 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: anything to go by, I think we've had it a 604 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: fantastic major season here in twenty twenty three. I'm really 605 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: really looking forward to it, and so I hope all 606 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: of you are going to be watching Get Up Early 607 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: if you're in the States, if you're in the UK. 608 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: The great thing about being over here in the UK 609 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: is Sky Sports does an amazing job covering this. You 610 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: turn on the TV at six o'clock in the morning, 611 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: they share the first shot and the last shot hold, 612 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: so it'll be. 613 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: On all day. 614 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: But I'm really looking forward to it, and I think 615 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: it's going to be a fantastic Major. 616 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 2: So the pod is back. 617 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: I want to thank everyone for listening. Son of a 618 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: Butcher comes to you every Wednesday. 619 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 2: We will see you next week.