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Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk Ketchel. How's it going? Everybody?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Pinstripe Territory presented by Fox One. Joining

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Speaker 1: me today is Ryan Garcia of Fireside Yankees. Ryan, how

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Speaker 1: you doing? How you enjoying this elongated offseason? Shall we say?

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Speaker 2: I'm a missing baseball, a missing Yankee baseball. I feel

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Speaker 2: miserable watching some of these games, and I wish it

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Speaker 2: was our Yanks, man, I really do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, we have the scenario where it's basically two teams

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Speaker 1: that we don't want to root for. Okay, so we

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Speaker 1: got the Dodgers who beat us last year, and we

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Speaker 1: got the Toronto Blue Jays who beat us this year.

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Speaker 1: Both fan bases we were just talking about talked an

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Speaker 1: immense amount of smacks. So there's no way this ends

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Speaker 1: up well for us. Who you pulling for?

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Speaker 2: I am pulling for the Los Angeles Dodgers. I know

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Speaker 2: Don Mannedling's on the Blue Jays. That's cool, that's great.

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Speaker 2: Whatever it may be. He wasn't he was out there

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Speaker 2: dancing on our grave when we got knocked out. So

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Speaker 2: I'm rooting for the Dodgers. Let's go Dodgy baby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm on board with that. I'm rooting for

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers as well, just because one, I want Don

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Speaker 1: Mattingley's first championship to be with the Yankees when they

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Speaker 1: finally brighten up and bring him back to the coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: And number two, I just I didn't like the way

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Speaker 1: little bit the wrong way. I can handle the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: going back to back, but I just can't handle another

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Speaker 1: full year of the Jays fans talking smack. Right, So

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Speaker 1: even though they will, you know, even if they lose

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Speaker 1: in the World Series, they're gonna talk smack. But we'll

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Speaker 1: deal with that because we can always come back with

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Speaker 1: a you got collobbered by the Dodgers. So all right.

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Speaker 1: In this episode, we're gonna talk about Cody Bellinger versus

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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker, which is certainly gonna be a debate. We're

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Speaker 1: already seeing it in the comments. I think you and

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Speaker 1: I probably both have a way that we're leaning already.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the top prospects that we're excited about.

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Speaker 1: You know, who we're gonna hang on to, who we

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Speaker 1: could trade maybe, who could break out the way that

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Speaker 1: Cam Schlitzler broke out this year. And then we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about the free agents who the Yankees will go after.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're almost never quiet completely. And even if

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Speaker 1: they signed Cody Bellinger, I would expect them to sign

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Speaker 1: someone else. Get that payroll back to where we're used to.

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Speaker 1: And then we're gonna talk a little bit about Ben Rice.

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Speaker 1: You know, does he profile as our first baseman? Will

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Speaker 1: Will they deal Austin Wells if they move him to catcher?

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Speaker 1: You know, will they go out and get a first baseman,

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Speaker 1: will they get more comedy? I mean, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: about it. So let's start, though, Ryan, with Cody Bellinger

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Speaker 1: versus Kyle Tucker. I'll just give you the lay of

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Speaker 1: and disadvantages for each. So Bellinger had five war this

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Speaker 1: year in his age thirty season, Kyle Tucker four and

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Speaker 1: a few more injuries than Bellinger, although Bellinger's had his

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Speaker 1: share of injuries in the past, Bellinger arguably more productive

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Speaker 1: who are you seeing as the better player over the

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Speaker 1: and who would you prefer the Yankees went after. So

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Kyle Tucker for me because I think

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Speaker 2: what Kyle Tucker brings to the table offensively offsets what

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Speaker 2: clarify by saying, Kyle Tucker, I think in left field

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Speaker 2: will be a below average defensive player for the New

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Speaker 2: He has more walks than strikeouts over the last two years.

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Speaker 2: think the Yankees in the postseason struggled with managing their walk,

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Speaker 2: it felt like against the Blue Jays, they couldn't read

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Speaker 2: I not doesn't have a story playoff resume, but I

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Speaker 2: what makes him such an attractive piece to me in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I to an extent, You're definitely right

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Speaker 1: totally different approach laying off that pitch. You know, Bellinger, though,

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Speaker 1: I really thought he was a I'm kind of aligned

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Speaker 1: you bring in a new player, right. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I could see Bellinger getting one seventy five, one eighty five,

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Speaker 1: with the contract rages you range as you provided. I

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Speaker 1: do they believe in the two young outfielders in their

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Speaker 2: Kyle Tucker, in my opinion, is a star. He's not

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Speaker 2: if that makes sense, but I think there's there's just

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Speaker 1: That is a fact. So there's a marketing aspect to

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Speaker 2: Otani has an international market, but there is a massive

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Speaker 2: and if your front office people tell you that Bellinger

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Speaker 2: There were things to be excited about. He doubled his

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exciting. I'll give you a couple that I'm

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Speaker 1: What are you looking at for his timeline? I mean,

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Speaker 2: Some guys come up and phillip smaller roles and then

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Speaker 2: they become better players down the road road. Lombard Judent

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Speaker 2: meets be eased into the major league role, not forced

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Speaker 2: into it.

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Speaker 1: I agree with one hundred percent on that This one

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Speaker 1: last guy who's not a prospect anymore, but in our hearts,

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Speaker 1: he's probably still a little bit of a prospect. I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about Jason Demingez. Year one obviously lost

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Speaker 1: a ton of playing time down the stretch, and you know,

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Speaker 1: he was compared to Mickey Manno and Mike Trout and

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Speaker 1: Bo Jackson. I don't think that was ever fair. But

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Speaker 1: I've been watching during the offseason because we have that

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Speaker 1: luxury without any you know, new games. I've been watching

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Speaker 1: a lot of highlights of the nineties Yankees, and I

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Speaker 1: thought about Bernie Williams and how important he was to

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Speaker 1: that team as a switch hitter who played reliable defense.

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Speaker 1: He didn't have to hit forty home runs. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he had a higher batting average than somebody like Domingez.

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Speaker 1: But as a switch hitter who was patient at the plate,

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Speaker 1: would you know, was more contact oriented than power oriented.

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Speaker 1: I think Dominguez should aim his game. Aim to be

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Speaker 1: more like Bernie Williams and less like you know, Bo

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Speaker 1: Jackson or Mike Trout. Focus more on the contact from

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Speaker 1: both sides of the plate, get better on defense, use

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Speaker 1: his athleticism. You know, Bernie Williams was an unbelievable defender,

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Speaker 1: but he had no arm, right, I mean, Dimingez has

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Speaker 1: a great arm, but he's not a great defender. I

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Speaker 1: think that you know, he's got different areas to improve,

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Speaker 1: but he should strive to be that steady force in

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Speaker 1: the outfield and not necessarily aimed to be a Barry

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Speaker 1: Bonds from both sides of the plate. Your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: year one of Dominguez.

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to just say, and I know I'm

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Speaker 2: the data guy and I'm supposed to be the guy

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Speaker 2: who's gonna say no, he's got to hit forty home runs.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I want him to hit for a higher average.

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Speaker 2: I think it was really encouraging that he hit two

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Speaker 2: fifty seven in his rookie year, and we feel like

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Speaker 2: he's still an unpolished player. Jason Dimingez, in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: as someone where you get him to hit when he's

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Speaker 2: red hot. He's not hitting ten home runs in a month,

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Speaker 2: he's hitting three forty in a month.

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Speaker 1: That's when he's red hot.

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Speaker 2: If you look at his minor league numbers, it's when

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Speaker 2: he was hitting three fifty three sixty four month that

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Speaker 2: he knew he was red hot. Jason, being a two

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Speaker 2: seventy two to eighty hitter who can walk, you can

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Speaker 2: occasionally hit the ball out the yard, not like weak power,

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Speaker 2: but get you twenty home runs, get you on base

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Speaker 2: thirty five thirty six percent of the time. That's the

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Speaker 2: player I hope he becomes, and on the basis that's

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Speaker 2: where you get the value. He's an incredible base runner,

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Speaker 2: he's really I thought about this throughout the year though,

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Speaker 2: game in Fenway where he got picked off, that's really

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Speaker 2: the only egregious base running mistake I can think of

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Speaker 2: for Jason Nimingaz throughout the year. Maybe I'm missing something else,

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Speaker 2: but aggressive base runners do stupid things in the bases.

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Speaker 2: Jose cabiiro does stupid things on the bas.

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Speaker 1: He got picked off like five times in a month.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dash Dizze's gonna do stupid things on the bases,

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Speaker 2: but that's because they're speedsters. I didn't feel like Jason

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Speaker 2: made mistakes on the bases at the rate that you

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Speaker 2: would imagine for a guy who's super aggressive on the

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Speaker 2: bases and loves running. That is really encouraging for me.

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Speaker 2: I need him to be a great base runner. A

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Speaker 2: guy who gets on base at a high rate and

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Speaker 2: has good power doesn't have to be great power. I

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Speaker 2: thought his rookie year he was a strong side plo player.

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Speaker 2: He was a good hitter against righty's, couldn't play him

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Speaker 2: against lefties, and a good base runner but a really

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Speaker 2: bad defender. He's he was a passable big leaguer, an

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Speaker 2: average big leaguer in year one, But it's post Tommy

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Speaker 2: John Post. I think it was a little bleak injury

505
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Speaker 2: last year. I mean it's been injury after injury after injury.

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Speaker 2: And it's not like he lost playing time because he's stunk.

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Speaker 2: He lost playing time because the guy he gained play

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Speaker 2: that took his playing time hit thirty four home runs.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's not like he lost the job to

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Speaker 2: someone who's stunk. He lost the job to someone who

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Speaker 2: was having an unbelievable year for their standards. So, Jason

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Speaker 2: de Mingez, I think a good offseason, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: let's get the average up. Let's try and find a

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Speaker 2: way to get to that two eighty mark. I think

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Speaker 2: the power will come with it, and he'll be a

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Speaker 2: really good hitter if he can do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was actually at Bernie Williams first ever five

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Speaker 1: hit game, and I'm telling you, like, if he could

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Speaker 1: be a guy who hits twenty five home runs with

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Speaker 1: two to eighty and good base running, and just a

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Speaker 1: passable outfielder, a passable left fielder, or even a passable

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Speaker 1: center fielder if they decide to put you know, Tucker

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Speaker 1: in left field. I can live with that. And it

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Speaker 1: does sound like Cashman wants Dominiez to be an everyday

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Speaker 1: player next year. I think he should play winter ball.

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Speaker 1: I agree with Paul O'Neil. He should go down there

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Speaker 1: and play winter ball against lefties. I think he should

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Speaker 1: do that. That would be a good move for his career.

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Speaker 1: A quick reminder, then we're gonna talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about the free agents. Hey, just a reminder. Get that

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Speaker 1: like on, get that, subscribe on, smash those buttons so

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Speaker 1: you can join us for every single episode all year long.

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Speaker 1: All right, So excuse the small font. We had to

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Speaker 1: fix fit a lot of free agents on the screen here,

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Speaker 1: but it ranges from Alex Bragman and Boba Schett, you know,

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Speaker 1: to our own guys like Trent Grisham, and you know,

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Speaker 1: there's Pete Alonzo on here. We got Louis Harias, we

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Speaker 1: got Kyle Schwarber, who I spelled horribly and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: fix that right now, you know, I I kf Hasan Kim,

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Speaker 1: I mean, is there anybody that's jumping off the page

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Speaker 1: for you as a potentially free agent target.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna kind of signal I'm gonna single

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Speaker 2: for a reunion here. I know the Yankees want to

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Speaker 2: bring in a right handed bat. I love Rob Refsider

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Speaker 2: for that role. I think he's really good against left

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Speaker 2: handed pitching. We know that he's been with the Yankees before.

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Speaker 2: Good buddies would judge. I feel like that's just a

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Speaker 2: good fit. And obviously Bellinger and Tuck are gonna stand

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Speaker 2: out because those are two players who I'm assuming they're

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Speaker 2: gonna be linked to Bellinger for sure. I will say, though,

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Speaker 2: I think I would stay away from the starting pitching

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Speaker 2: market for this free agent class. I think there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of guys where you're gonna have to give them

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Speaker 2: five or six year deals, and I'm good on that.

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Speaker 1: We just gave Freed an eight year deal. I prefer

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Speaker 1: to make a trade there.

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Speaker 2: And for the bullpen, I'm gonna shout out Ryan Helsley

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Speaker 2: as a guy who I would take a flyer on

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Speaker 2: because it's gonna be cheap. And I think going from

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Speaker 2: Saint Louis to New York, I know that was tough

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Speaker 2: for him, but I think it was more pitch tipping,

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Speaker 2: not really like he can't handle New York he stinks.

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Speaker 2: I think you just give him an offseason with Matt Blake.

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Speaker 2: Get me a guy that throws one hundred.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah.

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Speaker 2: You have Hellsley and David Bednar in the back end

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Speaker 2: of your bullpen. You've got straight smoke coming out of there.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be overpowering teams. You're gonna have a high

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Speaker 2: win percentage in games where you're leading the eighth or

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Speaker 2: ninth ending relative to the rest of the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you on avoiding the starting pitching

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Speaker 1: market here, although I will say we should circle back

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Speaker 1: on Paul Skins when we get to the end because

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Speaker 1: we've seen him mention and I don't think the Pirates

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Speaker 1: are gonna move him. But I mean, I think I

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Speaker 1: would basically unload everything to get Paul. He's a guy

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Speaker 1: who belongs in the big market. We were talking about

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Speaker 1: like how certain guys their value goes up, like their

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Speaker 1: marketability goes up. Put Paul Skins and fin stripes and

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Speaker 1: watch what happens. But yeah, I want to know your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on bobashett I think he's more inclined to go

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Speaker 1: back to the Blue Jays. I mean, especially if they

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Speaker 1: win the World Series. But tell you what, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of appealing to have that contact guy at short at

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Speaker 1: least as a stop gap until Lombard. But then, you know,

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Speaker 1: you kind of block Vulpie. So I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. I think the Yankees are probably committed to

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Speaker 1: the Vulpi cabi Aro combo at least until like the

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Speaker 1: you know, trade deadline next year. I don't like Alonso

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Speaker 1: as a first baseman. I think I'd rather just go

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Speaker 1: Ben Rice at first base, you know, if you need

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Speaker 1: a right handed alternative. I liked your idea of Rob

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Speaker 1: Refsnyder because he can really pinch hit or hit against

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Speaker 1: a tough lefty for three different positions. You know, he

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Speaker 1: come in, you know, for Rice if late in the

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Speaker 1: game and hit against a tough lefty, Dominguez or Wells

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, these these are three guys that

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Speaker 1: that I would trust him to go in there and

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Speaker 1: hit more. You know, if you need a big hit

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Speaker 1: of contact, you gotta get the runner in from third

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Speaker 1: with less than two hours or with two outs something

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Speaker 1: like that. I like the idea of somebody like a

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Speaker 1: Miguel and Duhar as like a just off the bench

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Speaker 1: kind of guy. I know that doesn't excite Yankees fans'

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Speaker 1: defense or whatever. It's guy with three hundred yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean yeah, I like him as a as a contact guy.

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Speaker 1: I've seen people mention Schwarber. I think, don't think there's

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Speaker 1: any chance that happens. What are your thoughts on JT.

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Speaker 1: Real Muto as kind of like a platoon with Wells?

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Speaker 2: I think with real Mutso, where I'm at with him

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Speaker 2: is that the glove is starting to regress. If the

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Speaker 2: don't bring him back, that's not a great sign for

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Speaker 2: how the Phillies feel about him or how teams feel

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Speaker 2: about him. If he signs as a backup or a

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Speaker 2: platoon guy, especially since it's a righty, it'll be a

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Speaker 2: short side platoon lefties. You're gonna face your lefties. So

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Speaker 2: that is really something that I think I would have to.

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Speaker 2: I think I'd have to kind of get an insight

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Speaker 2: on how the Yankees feel they can improve the defense

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Speaker 2: or get him back there. He is a really seasoned veteran.

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Speaker 2: I do think there's value in that. When you talk

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Speaker 2: about trusting a backup catcher in the postseason to call

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Speaker 2: a game. You couldn't trust anybody outside of Wells really

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Speaker 2: to call a game. I think for the Yankees in

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Speaker 2: the postseason, they didn't want to go with Rice. With

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Speaker 2: Fred even though he caught free towards the end of

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Speaker 2: the year, Escar wasn't going to get a start in

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Speaker 2: the postseason. That was not even a question. Real Mudo

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Speaker 2: does add someone who you could actually consider giving them

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Speaker 2: a start and trusting them in that environment to call

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Speaker 2: a game, catch a game. But I do think I

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Speaker 2: need to see I think they would need to make

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Speaker 2: strides with him defensively in order for him to be

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Speaker 2: a viable guy to sign and for him to make

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Speaker 2: up the value of that contract.

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Speaker 1: One guy do find interesting if he does not have

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Speaker 1: his option picked up. His has song Kim. I like

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Speaker 1: him as a player, I just I think he's a

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Speaker 1: scrappy guy. I think he would be a nice fit.

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot to look at, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: we'll visit this again this offseason, so tune in. As

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Speaker 1: I mentioned before, guys like subscribe all that stuff. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Ben Rice so metrically he's

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Speaker 1: damn near off the charts. I mean, I love watching

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Speaker 1: this guy hit twenty six home runs eight thirty one

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Speaker 1: ops this year, but he really doesn't have a position,

647
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Speaker 1: Like is he a first baseman, is he a catcher?

648
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: He wasn't great at either spot. Against righty's he was

649
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: much better eight sixty ops versus lefties just seven fifty two,

650
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: just a two seventy one on base. But you'd kind

651
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: of expect that. I mean, for a young left handed hitter,

652
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: you kind of expect that, and hopefully he'll get better.

653
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Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons I'm on board with

654
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: bringing Bellinger back is because he hits lefties so well.

655
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: It's it's almost like, you know, he could learn from

656
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: watching Bellinger in the way he stays in against lefties.

657
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to kind of get your thoughts on one,

658
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: the season Ben Rice had, and two what your plans

659
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Speaker 1: would be if you were kind of pulling the strings.

660
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Speaker 2: I was beyond elated with the year Ben Rice had,

661
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna give you two reasons why. Number One,

662
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Speaker 2: the results eight thirty one ohps that ranked inside the

663
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Speaker 2: top thirty for qualified major league hitters. You got a

664
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Speaker 2: top thirty hitter on a pre arbitration contract from a

665
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Speaker 2: guy who you drafted in the twelfth round. That is

666
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: a development win, that's an organizational win. That's something we

667
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: really haven't seen the Yankees do at all. They have

668
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: not been able to do that in the last decade.

669
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Speaker 2: We all know their infamous twenty ten to like twenty sixteen,

670
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen first round picks where they couldn't get a

671
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: single big leaguer from that group outside of Aaron Judge. Now,

672
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: the other thing that excited me Derek He was in

673
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: the seventy first percent tyle and with rate while also

674
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: hitting the absolute crap out of the baseball. He is

675
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: a guy who's gonna make a ton of contact and

676
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: hit the ball hard. He's a tough He's got to

677
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: strike out. He struck out under twenty percent of the

678
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: time this season. He's someone that I think you build

679
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: your lineup with and he's an anchor in it. He

680
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: is one of the guys that you can pencil in

681
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: there every single day and hope to get great production from.

682
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: I saw an upticke and batting average throughout the course

683
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: of the season, and it was translating with the hard

684
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: hit balls and hard hit baseballs or hits, folks.

685
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Speaker 1: The harder hit the ball, the more likely it's gonna

686
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Speaker 1: be in the launch angle. I mean, his launch angle

687
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: got fixed about halfway through. Remember he was hitting into

688
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: all that bad luck because he was sitting line drives

689
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: right at the second basement. Second part of the year,

690
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: you saw that launch angle sweet spot start to get.

691
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: You know, the percentage on baseball Savannahs just going up

692
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: and up and up, and what do you know, some

693
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: of those balls are going in the damn bullpen. So

694
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Speaker 1: I loved what we saw. Just in terms of progression

695
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: from Ben Rice. I'm gonna give you my plan for

696
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: Ben Rice. You bring in Tino Martinez in spring training

697
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: and you teach him. Hey, you're working with this guy

698
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: every day. Don't let him leave your sight. You're gonna teach.

699
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: You're gonna teach this guy how to pick it over

700
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: at first base. And then you're gonna locker next to

701
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: Cody Bellinger if he's back, and you're gonna learn how

702
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: to hit lefties right. You're gonna you're gonna hit next

703
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: to him. You're gonna spend spring training and maybe even

704
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: part of the winter just getting better at those two areas.

705
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: I think you don't do those two things. He's borderline.

706
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: He was not borderline. He's all star. He's an all

707
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: Star for sure. I agree.

708
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: And I like that you mentioned bringing in Tino or

709
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: bringing in someone just in general who can help him

710
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: with the scoops and picking the ball.

711
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: At first I love that Paul Goldschmidt.

712
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Speaker 2: We kind of got reports during the postseason of Ben

713
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: Rice working with Goldschmidt on defense at first base. I

714
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: think that was a really good influence to have. I

715
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: said in December, I'm glad they signed him for Ben Rice.

716
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: I wasn't a big fan of gold as a player,

717
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: but the idea of him working with Ben Rice is

718
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: a good thing. I think Tino's a great guy to

719
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: have around him in that capacity. And I'll also say this, Derek,

720
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: I feel as if that's a good influence to have

721
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: because the Yankees need some semblance of continuity in the

722
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: sense of having good players who are going to come

723
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: back and set some sort of culture or some sort

724
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: of new identity for this team. Guys like Rice and Schlitler.

725
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: I feel like they got up for these rights games

726
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: against the Red Sox. It felt different from Oh, it's

727
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: just one out of sixty two.

728
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: I was talking about this my dad.

729
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: Sometimes it feels like the Yankees in the regular season

730
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,959
Speaker 2: treat Red Sox games like it's just another game, and

731
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: I hate that. I can't stand that. I don't think

732
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 2: that's how it should be. I don't I'm a big

733
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Speaker 2: data guy with big atls.

734
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Speaker 1: I get it. You get into the postseason, you got

735
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: a shot. I'm cool with that.

736
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: Cool, but I want to get up for these Red

737
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: Sox games. And it feels like Rice and Schlitler hate

738
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: the Red Sox.

739
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: I love that part of it.

740
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: I think that's something that you can change in your clubhouse.

741
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: And these are two guys who you hope to have

742
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 2: for more years to come. I love the prototype of

743
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: a lefty first baseman. That's what you haven't Ben Rice.

744
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: Hopefully that ends up being the case for the future.

745
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I'm looking forward to seeing what

746
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: he can do in his second full year. So we're

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755
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766
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Speaker 1: about two minutes late feeding my cat, which is a

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Speaker 1: want to touch base with you on. We just mentioned him,

792
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: Cam Schlitzler. Holy cow, what I looked forward to this

793
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: guy's starts and I actually if you recall he pitched

794
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: the first game of spring training that was televised, and

795
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: I came out that day and said, this guy's gonna

796
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 1: be in the big leagues like he looks. He looks good,

797
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: and the jump in velocity is not something that I anticipated.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's something the Yankees anticipated. I haven't

799
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: seen a good explanation for it. Where what happened.

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00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. It can't be him bulking up

801
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: in the offseason, because maybe it helped, but he was

802
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: not throwing this hard in spring training. He wasn't throwing

803
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: this hard in Double A. I charted his velocity when

804
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: I went in April for a start against Portland, and

805
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 2: he was sitting around ninety five to ninety six mouths

806
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: per hour. So I'm gonna be honest. It could have

807
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: been mechanical jump. It could have been something cleaning up there.

808
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 2: But I don't know where it came from.

809
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: I could. I didn't see this coming at all. The

810
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: one thing I thought was that, you know, maybe the

811
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: Yankee saw this guy throwing a hundred on the side

812
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: and said, hey, we don't want teams asking for you

813
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: at the trade deadline. In the game, pitch it about

814
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: eighty five percent ninety percent, like, don't you know what

815
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: I mean? And then when you get called up to

816
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: the big leagues, we're gonna unleash it right and and

817
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: maybe that's what happened, but he was unbelievable to watch.

818
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Minnetaka Murakami? Too much shwing

819
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: a miss for me? I'm I'm not gonna lie. I can't.

820
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 2: I don't think I can bring over a guy where

821
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 2: we just talked about it with Spencer Jones. How is

822
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: he gonna respond if he gets asked a million questions

823
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: about your strike out rate? And on top of that,

824
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: he's a first baseman. Jones is the center fielder. If

825
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 2: Jones is a league average hitter, and I think Jones

826
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 2: is a good defensive center fielder, he's gonna be a

827
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: pretty good baseball player. If Murakami's a league average hitter,

828
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 2: he's gonna be a bad first baseman. It's that simple.

829
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: And he's actually spent more time at third base than

830
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 2: at first base. So he's kind of like Ben Rice

831
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: where you have to learn it on the fly. I'm

832
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: I'm good on that. I'll learn it on the I'll

833
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: have ben Rice continue to learn it on the fly.

834
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Speaker 2: Where he's gonna give me that low strike out rate,

835
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: good power, Murakami, I'm good on that. That's a someone

836
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: for a team that desperately needs power. We don't desperately

837
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: need it.

838
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: I agree with you there. Jonathan Lowisaga has an option.

839
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: Should the Yankees pick it up and hope for the

840
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: best or just say, look, this guy can't stay healthy,

841
00:36:59,120 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: let best of luck.

842
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I think I'm declining that option. Were for

843
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: five million dollars. I think you can get someone who

844
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: presents similar upside and is healthier. And the thing that

845
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: scares me Derek there was this drop off in stuff

846
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: and he had his worst stuff plus ever this past year. Injuries,

847
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: stuff dropping. No, I'm good one hundred percent.

848
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Speaker 1: And then you know, this is an interesting one because

849
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: you know what's in our mind. It might be a

850
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: recency bias. Devin Williams got off to a horrible start.

851
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: I think we were all ready to send him to

852
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: Neptune in about July. But he was great down the

853
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: stretch and he was, you know, good in the playoffs.

854
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he gave up a big hit, but it

855
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: wasn't his fault. That those runs scored. I mean, honestly,

856
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: I thought he was solid the last six weeks of

857
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: the year. Do you think that there's a chance that

858
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: they say, hey, let's bet that that's the guy we

859
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Speaker 1: get back.

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Speaker 2: I think the Yankees would like him back on a

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Speaker 2: one year deal, but the only parameters for that is

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Speaker 2: a qualifying offer, which is twenty two million dollars. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna bet that they don't give him that. And I'm

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Speaker 2: also gonna bet that if Williams signs a one year deal,

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Speaker 2: he wants to be a closer. I like Williams and

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Speaker 2: what he did towards the down down the stretch, and

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Speaker 2: think he's gonna have a rebound year. But I'm not

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Speaker 2: moving David Bennan off the closer spot. And Bennart's also

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Speaker 2: entering a walk here. So if Bennart was told, Hey,

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Speaker 2: we're moving out of the closer spot in your walk

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Speaker 2: here for Devid Williams, He'll be like, excuse me me,

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Speaker 2: you're moving me out of that Absolutely not. So the

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Speaker 2: only way I could see it is like a four

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Speaker 2: or five year deal, But they're not giving him a

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Speaker 2: four to five year deal. I deal either, So I

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Speaker 2: think the Yankees would like him back if possible, but

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's realistic at all for them to

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Speaker 2: bring him back on a pillow contract or on a

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Speaker 2: multi year deal.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, you know your stuff, Ryan. Everybody go

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Speaker 1: follow Ryan on He's a great follow on all the

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Speaker 1: social media platforms X, Instagram, on that stuff. Also Fireside Yankees.

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Speaker 1: Whenever I go and go on Reddit and I see

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Speaker 1: one of those things like which Yankees podcast do you follow,

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Speaker 1: it's always talking Yanks, Pinstripe, Terry, Territory, and h and

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Speaker 1: Fireside Yankees. So congrats on the success, continue the great work,

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Speaker 1: and ladies and gentlemen, we will see you next time.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to like subscribe all that good stuff. Ryan.

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