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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Michael Masters, here we go. You had a

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Speaker 2: conversation an encounter that greatly informed you about the topics

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Speaker 2: we've been discussing tonight in a very direct way. Can

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Speaker 2: you tell me where you were and when this happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm happy to do so, but I would have

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Speaker 3: at least like to preface this next part of the

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Speaker 3: show by saying that this isn't something I thought out,

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Speaker 3: It's something that happened to me. And I talked about

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Speaker 3: this a little bit on a documentary episode that came

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Speaker 3: out by Jesse Michaels about this idea, and the response

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Speaker 3: was that it helped a lot of people with experiences

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Speaker 3: they had on one side of the spectrum. But then

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Speaker 3: also a lot of people are really really mad oh

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Speaker 3: and lashed out at me for something I didn't choose,

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Speaker 3: And it's a blaming the victim scenario, and I just

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Speaker 3: I want to get out in front of that before

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Speaker 3: I tell this story, because it's real, it happens. It

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Speaker 3: challenged my worldview, it'll likely challenge the worldview of a

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Speaker 3: lot of your listeners. But please don't attack me personally.

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Speaker 3: This is something that happened to me. It's not something

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Speaker 3: that was easy for me either.

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Speaker 2: And I should also say it's not the only view.

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Speaker 2: You're not saying this is the only truth. This is

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Speaker 2: the way it is for everybody. It's what is true

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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I'm not even saying that I know

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Speaker 3: what it is, George, I don't know. I'm still trying

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Speaker 3: to wrap my head around these things, just like everybody is.

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Speaker 3: What is reality? What is physical reality? What spiritual reality?

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Speaker 3: How did the two connect? His consciousness? So it's very

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Speaker 3: much not that I'm trying to tell your listeners that

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Speaker 3: this is the thing that it is. I just want

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Speaker 3: to convey what happened to me, and they can take

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Speaker 3: it and interpret it in any way they want to.

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Speaker 3: I'm not prophesizing, I'm not offering anything. But what happened

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Speaker 3: is that I went to a conference in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: two last year, and I was taken up to the

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Speaker 3: VIP room where there had previously been a VIP party

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Speaker 3: where people that pay extra to go to the conference

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Speaker 3: can come up and interact with the speakers and other

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Speaker 3: individuals who really want to dive deep into these questions.

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Speaker 3: But have personal conversations. There's a lot of beers there.

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Speaker 3: It was at the International UFO Congress, and may I

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Speaker 3: just called all Phoenix because I don't really understand all

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Speaker 3: the suburbs. And so yeah, Karen Brard and Alejandro Rojas

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Speaker 3: put on an amazing conference they do year after year.

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Speaker 3: And so there was a Halloween dance party because it

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Speaker 3: was right around October, right before Halloween, and I was

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Speaker 3: one of these events in twenty nineteen, saw that I

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Speaker 3: was going to try to buy a beer at this

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Speaker 3: this area for that specific party, saw that I was

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Speaker 3: out of money, came up and said, I have a

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Speaker 3: the beers to our friends. And I said, great idea.

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Speaker 3: So we went up there, went into this room, and

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Speaker 3: getting ready to leave, she says, well, we can't go,

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Speaker 3: and I say why and she says, well, because my

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, okay, fine, is he coming soon? Because

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Speaker 3: and uh, yeah, I wanted I wanted to kick his butt.

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Speaker 3: I was really mad about that. And he said, I

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Speaker 3: that wasn't what he said, but something that was done

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Speaker 1: And what was.

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Speaker 3: Really jarring is that the thing he said after this,

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Speaker 3: about quitting lately, and we'd really prefer if you don't

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Speaker 3: do that yet. And to have someone articulate something to

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Speaker 3: like we think of all of our thoughts as being private. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: that I wasn't talking to this Eric person. I wasn't

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Speaker 3: Explore this further if you like. What is them. It's

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Speaker 3: some sort of non local consciousness. I'm not trying to

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Speaker 3: they hijacked her and his brains to bring them out

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Speaker 3: into this balcony to bring me there too. Lied to

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Speaker 3: how could you possibly know that? And they said, once

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Speaker 3: And George, I didn't know. I I've never had any

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Speaker 3: telepathic communication, but somehow I telepathically communicated duture humans as

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Speaker 2: So they know some things that are in your head

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm really glad you asked that question, George, because

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Speaker 3: But I am the one that said future humans question mark,

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Speaker 3: fact that I even did that that moment was strange,

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Speaker 3: But it's important to point out that they didn't say

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Speaker 3: They didn't say yes, George. They didn't say yes, they

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Speaker 3: didn't confirm that. They moved on to the next aspect

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Speaker 3: But when I said future humans telepathically, they moved on.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not willing to ascribe that to it until

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Speaker 3: there's something more definitive. But that was the implication of

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Speaker 3: and I'm you kind of have a sense of privacy

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Speaker 3: when you think about things. But then to have this

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Speaker 3: as conduits and they're being used, not not used. That

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Speaker 3: because being used seems like manipulated. But they're willing participants

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Speaker 2: And now they're they're voluntarily acting as sort of a

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Speaker 2: vehicle and conduit.

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Speaker 1: For whatever this is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great way of putting. They don't like

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Speaker 3: the word channeling. I actually had a conversation with them

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Speaker 3: on on Zoom, both of them after a year This

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Speaker 3: is a year ago, just because we're all trying to

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Speaker 3: figure it out. They don't know either. They don't know

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Speaker 3: exactly what this is. Their brains are different. They have

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Speaker 3: had experiences their entire life. Well, one of them, the

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Speaker 3: woman as the man that was involved, had a very

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Speaker 3: specific UFO encounter where he was kind of pinned down

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Speaker 3: and then a lot of things changed. He considered, I

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Speaker 3: think he used these words exactly. It was an Arkansas

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Speaker 3: hillbilly with a Southern draw and he's wanted to go

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Speaker 3: fishing all the time, as he said. After this UFO

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Speaker 3: encounter where they pined him down and modified his cerebral physiology, essentially,

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Speaker 3: he lost his accent. He started to have knowledge that

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Speaker 3: he shouldn't have had. He had a thirst for knowledge.

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Speaker 3: He started reading book after book. He would sleep three

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Speaker 3: or four hours a night and then just wake up

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Speaker 3: and read and read and lead. So they're real people

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Speaker 3: that live here and are a part of our physical reality,

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Speaker 3: but also have these abilities to channel these others these.

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Speaker 2: So had the others used these people before to talk

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Speaker 2: to people like you with the same kind of a

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Speaker 2: message or do you know?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if it was for the same purpose.

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Speaker 3: I can't answer that specifically. You could ask them that.

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Speaker 3: But they know that they're being and again I just

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Speaker 3: hate saying used, but they're they're they know they're being

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Speaker 3: commissioned for these things, and and willingly, willingly they want

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Speaker 3: to help people, they want to be involved. They don't.

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Speaker 3: What's crazy, George, is that the woman who took me

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Speaker 3: from that room downstairs when I was out of money

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Speaker 3: at the bar, that's the point they took her mind over.

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Speaker 3: She doesn't remember much of what happened after that because

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Speaker 3: they were just they almost implanted themselves in her mind

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Speaker 3: to do those things, to take me upstairs so that

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Speaker 3: he could come. Who has a I don't want to

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Speaker 3: like quantify this, but like a stronger brain, like a

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Speaker 3: really strong brain, there's videos of microphones being put up

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Speaker 3: to his forehead and into his ear, where he can

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