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Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineker. What

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Speaker 2: a strange feeling I'm having right now. I'm in a

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Speaker 2: Where are we? That's a good question. We're at Crooked

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Speaker 2: Media in order to record this episode. And why are

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Speaker 2: we doing that? Because of today's guest, who I'm so

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Speaker 3: Welcome to. I said, no gifts, Thanks for having me,

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Speaker 3: thanks for coming to our studio.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm I mean, I don't even know how to

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Speaker 2: strange feeling. It's fine to me right now. It feels

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Speaker 2: I feel free, but also a little restricted. I feel

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Speaker 2: so I just want need to be aware of that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but sure, how are you doing? I'm doing okay.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to see top Gun, tops coming up, plans

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Speaker 2: I don't find good looking light Year light Year? First,

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Speaker 3: You go? Well, So I'm realizing now that I have

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Speaker 3: we basically ever since. I think this is what happened everybody.

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Speaker 3: this is not a preview. This is the film Heat.

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Speaker 2: A thrilling intro to a movie, by the way.

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Speaker 3: all thought, sure, a buzz light Year played by of

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Speaker 3: course Tim Allen. Sure, unequivocally, love.

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Speaker 3: He's the last man standing, you know in this economy,

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Speaker 3: where did this toy come from?

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Speaker 3: Is it based on a real astronaut? Is that going

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Speaker 2: Is it okay that this? I do know this. It's

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Speaker 2: Come on fully on board with you, fully on board.

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Speaker 2: What I'm hearing is you find Woody more attractive than

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Speaker 3: You know that'll happen from time to time. That'll happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think if I were approached by light Year,

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Speaker 3: Some Vodkan tang. Maybe soon, what happens, Oh my.

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Speaker 2: God, terrible tang it out space beverage, space beverage, speaking

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Speaker 3: I don't know what their frigeration is. It is cold

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Speaker 2: Conditioner. Do you know? I wish I had an answer

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Speaker 2: It damages, it dries, and unless you're like your hair's

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Speaker 2: got a bunch of mud or something, paint lice, I

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Speaker 2: don't believe shampoos that necessary.

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Speaker 2: So that's this new thing called con poohing or sham

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Speaker 3: It's something like, yeah, shamdition, shamditioning.

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Speaker 2: But shamdish do you so you do condition though.

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Speaker 3: From time to time I do in hotels because it's

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Speaker 2: I don't like to hear this at all. Your trust hotel.

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Speaker 2: Any product in a hotel is going to damage.

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Speaker 3: I use whatever is there. I use whatever is there

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Speaker 2: The day you're rejected from the gay community.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess so. And you know what, I'm fine

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Speaker 3: with it. This is how I live my life, all right.

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Speaker 2: You can't go into a hotel. I don't care how

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Speaker 2: hotels and they are giving you a bad The hygiene

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Speaker 3: We are a wisp away from June and I'm saying

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Speaker 3: Francisco Pride. Someone who doesn't know what conditioner is and

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Speaker 3: What's the debate?

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Speaker 2: You're only going to tools here, and you're forgetting the

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Speaker 3: But this is the problem. This is the problem. You look.

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Speaker 3: So it was it was an Amazon. It had the idea,

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Speaker 3: That is that what you want. That's not what you ask,

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Speaker 3: that's not what if you want, that's what you tell me.

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Speaker 3: Of course, because you're coming from Highland Park. This is

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Speaker 2: Is this good content? You think this is excellent? Non

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Speaker 3: The thing is Highland Park is on the east side.

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Speaker 2: It's it's stay on Santa Monica Boulevard. You're not going

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Speaker 2: That's the series we're talking about, and we don't know

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Speaker 3: I didn't refuse. I don't know, you keep throwing this

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to say something and I'm going to say

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Speaker 3: it now where you like did it again. I'm going

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Speaker 3: get a Well, the problem is, you know what, we're

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Speaker 2: That's so true, and I can only that's the only

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Speaker 3: They're all closed.

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Speaker 2: Oh they don't have You don't have a pair of

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Speaker 3: We can look, we can check around. I mean it

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Speaker 2: You're surprised. My podcast is largely wire clippers getting into places,

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Speaker 2: to you. Bridger goes to Seers and then you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe that's it. Look, lesser podcasts have been made, Fewer

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't need an answer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't need an answer. It's about the journey

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Speaker 2: Oh of course, come my own. Look, look, add non,

435
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 2: I think that's right. But we were kind of swept

436
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: up in a frenzy, and you know, it's easy to

437
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 2: fall in love with him. God only knows. I'm watching

438
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 2: the staircase, and that guy certainly did it.

439
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 3: Partial to the owl theory, I would love for the owl. Look, look,

440
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 3: I agree that it is unlikely. You know, I think

441
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 3: I think if more than one of your spouses dies

442
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 3: by falling down the stairs, you use it. Proved me wrong,

443
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 3: is what I say. I say to you. I say, look,

444
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 3: I prove me wrong. But I am partial to the

445
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 3: idea that it was a random act of aggression. From

446
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 3: a bird. That does excite me. I mean, it's exactly,

447
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 3: it's a real story. It's sad to be so to

448
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 3: be so glib about it.

449
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,639
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I mean, if it was an owl, I mean, wow,

450
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 2: what a world do we live in? What a place?

451
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 2: What a time? An owl swoops down from the attic,

452
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 2: takes care of somebody, and then decades of documentaries and

453
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 2: HBO original series excellent performances by the way, but yeah,

454
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 2: I want to believe it's the owl too.

455
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 3: Is there an owl in the series. I've only listened

456
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 3: to it. I've only seen the documentary.

457
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 2: There are hints of the owl. You see an owl claw,

458
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: you see bats, which I had never heard about bats about.

459
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 2: She goes up into the attic and there are bats

460
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 2: there in the Belfrey, what is the title? I feel

461
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 2: like it's an attic with kind of a sloped ceiling.

462
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: I always picture kind of like there's a hole where

463
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 2: light streams in across, like the scary guy who lives there.

464
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 2: There might be a bell, but I'm not just saying

465
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: that because it's a bell. Free Interesting am I getting

466
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 2: at here?

467
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 3: What are you getting at here?

468
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 2: What I'm getting at is I bet there's one in

469
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 2: the Sears. I feel like that's the atmosphere that we're

470
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 2: thinking about bats bats or bell freeze. There's probably a

471
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: big bell tower at the top of that series that

472
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 2: nobody's even aware of at this point, kind of ring

473
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 2: it when the deals were happening or whatever. Not a

474
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 2: bad idea for retail. Somebody look into that. A big

475
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 2: church bell that gets wrung at like the Macy's anytimes

476
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: something goes on sale. This is this is a podcast

477
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 2: about ideas. It's about retail. Take what you need, Macy's

478
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: or Dillard's.

479
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 3: Those those two the two big ones famously.

480
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 2: Okay, well I've gotten the two biggest, most important things

481
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: out of the way. Maybe not in a way I

482
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 2: would have liked. I didn't get the answers I wanted

483
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 2: to keep saying that I'm not on my way to Sears.

484
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 3: That's your choice.

485
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 2: That I have a podcast record people.

486
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 3: We are recording this conversation that people listening are aware

487
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 3: of what I said before. You just said something that

488
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 3: is not true. If you want to go to Sears,

489
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 3: I'll say it again. If you want to go to Sears, let's.

490
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: Go listener, repind the tape, and you make you you know,

491
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 2: this is the court of public opinion. You bet, and

492
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 2: we'll all come to our own conclusions. This is my staircase.

493
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 2: This is absolutely my staircase. But we have to talk

494
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: about something else. John, What the listener's dying? I'm dying. Look,

495
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 2: I did you a big favor. Okay, I agreed to

496
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,239
Speaker 2: come over here. You know, I said, Look, as much

497
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: as I love doing a podcast over zoom and I

498
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: love staring at a computer screen, I said, look, I'll

499
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: go over to John's let's call it your house, Crooked

500
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: Media Studios, and I'll record my podcast. I said no

501
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: gifts with him, thought we'll have a great time. John

502
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: has He's only eighteen, but he knows the world of podcasts.

503
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 2: He gets it. Emails were exchanged. You're aware this podcast

504
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: is called I said no gifts, So I was a

505
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: little surprised. I kind of settled in here with my

506
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: producer on a lease in your studio, kind of made

507
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: myself a home. And you come waltzing in holding a

508
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: what is clearly I can't even dance around this the

509
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: way you're able to dance around truly anything a gift bag?

510
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 2: Is this a gift for me?

511
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 3: It?

512
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: Is it?

513
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 3: Is a gift for you. I did. I know, I

514
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 3: know that.

515
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: It's called no gifts, but called I said no gifts.

516
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 3: I know, I know that no gifts is in the title.

517
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 3: Is the key point. I was making no if offense intended,

518
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: but I was. I just couldn't. I didn't feel comfortable.

519
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 3: I wouldn't feel comfortable walking into this studio to a

520
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 3: host without bringing a gift. So I did, I did,

521
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 3: I did. I did bring a little trinket, A nothing. Really,

522
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 3: it's a nothing. An it on nothing as long as

523
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 3: it's enough. It's it's a little something. I mean, it

524
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 3: is nothing. It's a little something.

525
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, well again, just can't quite nail down an

526
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: answer with you. It's always riding the fence. Well, do

527
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: you want me to open it here on the podcast?

528
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: I would? I think, Well, look, I think here's the thing.

529
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 3: I think let's open it now and then you can decide. Okay,

530
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 3: if you want to bring it to Sears. But I

531
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: think we're here, we're together, sure, why not? You can

532
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 3: check it out.

533
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna open this up. It's a very cute bag.

534
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: It's a bag with some little colorful balloons on it.

535
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: It's well wrapped. It's got some tissue paper. Sometimes you

536
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 2: get a gift on the show, not that well wrapped.

537
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: Apologies to pass gas, but some have looked like garbage.

538
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 2: But I'm going to open it up here. We've got

539
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: the tissue. We've got to get some crink. Oh wow,

540
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 2: the of that tissue paper.

541
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,479
Speaker 3: That's great.

542
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 2: If I could do that all day. Let's do this.

543
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: I'm throwing it on your floor. I will clean it

544
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: up later. I'm not that rude. And we're going to

545
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: dive in here. And now what is this? What are

546
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 2: we looking at? It's a T shirt?

547
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 3: It is it's a little something, little t shirt. Nothing

548
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: you get this.

549
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 2: It's a T shirt that says I don't do cardio

550
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 2: because these colors don't run well.

551
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: You have to. You have to. It's a party. You

552
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 3: have to describe that. There's American flag.

553
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: Am distracted by the fifteen fonts that these The text

554
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: is done in so many fonts. Yeah, there's kind of

555
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: an American flag. But I mean, let's assume the person

556
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: who's going to be wearing this is the sort of

557
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: person who deeply patriotic, and I feel like this American

558
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 2: flag is very I would say desecrated by a because.

559
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: There is a there's a because for annything. Here's what

560
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 3: I love about this shirt. It's so funny. It's it's

561
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: for a patriot. It's obviously for a patriot, but it's

562
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 3: also for a patriot with a terrific sense of humor.

563
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: Because you get it. I don't know if you get it.

564
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 3: But so the idea is, like, you don't do cardio.

565
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: You don't do cardio. You don't run around like on

566
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: a machine or something, because these colors don't run the

567
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: American flag. Because he's wearing she or he is wearing anybody.

568
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: It's a big shirt.

569
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 2: It's I mean, the shirt is perfect for me to

570
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: kind of lounge around and on the couch, you know,

571
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: sit in the backyard just feast, you know, with a

572
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: big chicken leg or something. This will probably go mid thigh.

573
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 3: Sure.

574
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 2: The real problem with this shirt, the tragedy is this

575
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: looks like it would be very comfortable to exercise him.

576
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: It's it's light. Yeah, it's a complete paradox. Where did

577
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: you get this thing?

578
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 3: It was at a local thrift store.

579
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: Is it a thrift store?

580
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: It was?

581
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 2: Who would give this thing up?

582
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 3: I think somebody who basically was down to just say

583
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 3: like that was it. It was their most prized possession.

584
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 3: But they had to leave the country that day and

585
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: they needed the cash to buy the ticket, and so

586
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 3: they sold it. And their loss was at first mine

587
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 3: and now eternally your gain.

588
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 2: This shirt was sold for five thousand dollars to finance

589
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: a trip to Italy or something. And it makes perfect sense.

590
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a beautiful top. It's it's got a

591
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: funny phrase, and it speaks to It speaks to me.

592
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: I don't do cardio? Really do you do cardio?

593
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: I do cardio from time. I don't believe you that

594
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: you don't do cardios.

595
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: I simply don't. I think I was actually thinking about

596
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: this recently. Running it's kind of, would you say, is

597
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: kind of the exercise that everybody It's kind of the

598
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: stereotypical exercise. It's the thing you're like a classic need

599
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: to work out easily, the worst exercise, the most painful

600
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: exercise I can imagine doing.

601
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: I like running. You like to run, I do, but

602
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 3: you probably had to get used to it. Yeah, you

603
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: could take some time, you know.

604
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: And initially not a comfortable thing to do.

605
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: When I first started running, I would jog point nine

606
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 3: miles from my apartment to a Chipotle and then buy

607
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: a burrito, no bag, no, no bag necessary because I

608
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: would literally walk and eat the burrito walking the point

609
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: nine miles home. So it was like whatever it took

610
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: to get to you know, ten to twelve minutes, depending

611
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: on my velocity at the time, which was slow, and

612
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: then I would take me to take twenty minutes to

613
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: walk home the point nine miles while eating the burrito.

614
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: That's an incredible plan.

615
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a well, it's a it's a jog that

616
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 3: destroys itself, you know what I mean. It's a plant

617
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: that e races itself.

618
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: What's the term net zero?

619
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's net zero. Yeah, net zero.

620
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: Maybe actually not very hard to say it.

621
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: No, we know we know that it was not it

622
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 3: was negative. We know that when I got home, I'd

623
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: done more damage than I better to have never left

624
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: at all. We know that is obvious that you could

625
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: have just had to work off a Chipotle burrito on

626
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: a point nine mile while home. That thing could power

627
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: a buick for like fifty miles. So it's a it's

628
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: a brick.

629
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: And my question is cardio for me at least, I

630
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: would be so nauseous by the end of that point nine,

631
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to think about eating for an hour. Well,

632
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: it's a different be so you don't get nauseous doing cardio.

633
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 3: No ever, Ever, I've never gotten what kind of questions? Again?

634
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: Here I go. Yeah again, there's no universe you could

635
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: become naice.

636
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: I'm sure I have. Yes, my answer. Sorry, I know

637
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: that I've been equivocating this whole time. I can't give

638
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 3: you a straight answer. The answer to your question, have

639
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 3: I ever gotten nauseous while doing cardio? Is yes?

640
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, See for me, I would I would get

641
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: to the Chipotle be so nauseous, I would barely be

642
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: able to drink a glass of water. You seem like

643
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: a fifth person, though, I'm I think. I mean, I'm

644
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: probably in decent shape for the first time in my life.

645
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: Wow.

646
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: I had not exercised in an earnest until maybe twenty nineteen,

647
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: and then decided, well, I guess at some point I

648
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: should probably try it, and so I do that, but

649
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: I don't, I think, And I think part of it

650
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: was because I would do a lot of try doing cardio,

651
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: and I think this is the worst thing in the world.

652
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: I feel bad. I feel bad after I'm nauseous. What's

653
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: the point?

654
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: So I think that a similar problem happens in gym

655
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: class when you're a kid, which is I can't think

656
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 3: of anything designed to make kids hate exercise more than

657
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: like once a year. They're like, run a mile right now,

658
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: in all together, all together, and finish in exactly the

659
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: order order the cool kids expect. Good job, go out there,

660
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: have a great time.

661
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: The worst thing in the world, and a mile to

662
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: a kid.

663
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: It's it is. It was inconceivable. You remember, of course,

664
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 3: I remember that feeling, That feeling, us both having that

665
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: feeling is why we are in this room. That feeling,

666
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: that feeling is a life, is a whole life ahead

667
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: of you.

668
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna die before this is over.

669
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: And that feeling, Yes, I remember. I remember standing outside

670
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: and the gym teacher, Missus Friedlander, saying, it's whatever number

671
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: of times it was like, it wasn't three times, it

672
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: was like eight times around the soccer field, whatever that

673
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: number was. And I remember you do the first one.

674
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: You're like, no, no, I don't have seven more of

675
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: these to go. I'm a tiny unathletic.

676
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: My legs are like six inches long.

677
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: Nary a day ago, I was at the children's clothing

678
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 3: store and I heard the person working there whisper to

679
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: my mother, he's gonna need the husky. I needed the husky.

680
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 3: I can't roll for his age. He's small, but husky.

681
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: That's why we're gonna get him a blue silk shirt.

682
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: He doesn't tuck in, so he looks like a fucking peep.

683
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: Oh, this is a very cute image, little John trotting

684
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: around the it. I mean, it is that whoever devised

685
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: that thing is out of their mind. I mean, it's

686
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: just remember probably yeah, So, I mean it was the

687
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: for us, it was the presidential fitness.

688
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: It was that thing.

689
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: Wasn't that the president wasn't aware of that?

690
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: Why Bill clinton't make me do this?

691
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: He loves to run, Yeah, he loves running shorts. Yeah,

692
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: there's a lot, there's a lesson certainly that we can

693
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: take a lot from that. But that feeling was always

694
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: just year after year. I think we did it from

695
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: first to sixth grade.

696
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: Every year, every year, and sometimes we had to do

697
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: it inside and then it was like thirty laps and

698
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: it was like this is not this is not.

699
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: Kosher, and there was no training.

700
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: There's no training. It was just once a year.

701
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: Right, it's May, it's ninety five degrees. Everybody, get run.

702
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: Get running. We did not practice, We did not lead

703
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: up to this at all. Yesterday we did something involving

704
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: a parachute. Now you're you're running.

705
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: The parachute was such a thing of relief for me

706
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: was hold hold an object.

707
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: Nothing was more thrilling than the than knowing when in

708
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: gym class there was no basketball, there's no kicking, there's nothing.

709
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: There's just a parachute that you gonna jiggle and then

710
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: you're gonna get under. You're gonna make air. You can

711
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: get under a big rainbow parachute. And you got another reason.

712
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: Look at all the paty colors.

713
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 3: Look at all the pitty colors.

714
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: Although to me now thinking about it, is there suffocation

715
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 2: likely with that device?

716
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: I think it's just sort of a practical question. We

717
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: should We can look into the records. I think that

718
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: I would assume that that is pretty safe.

719
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 2: I can imagine little Bridger getting lost under there. Yeah,

720
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: some teacher that was over it, just being like I

721
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: got twenty eight of the twenty nine kids. I'll just

722
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: leave him, let him suffocate. But I did love the parachute.

723
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: It was the maybe the only gym thing I like

724
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 2: to do.

725
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: I will say this, I was a glutton for punishment

726
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 3: because even though I was terrible, even though I could

727
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: barely heave the ball in any kind of direction, I

728
00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 3: loved dodgeball. Dodge I loved dodgeball, even though even though

729
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: I was a victim of it. Never I never, There

730
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 3: was no I could not throw a ball hard enough

731
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: that those kids couldn't catch it. Caught it every time.

732
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 3: I'm out. Loved it. I love the thrill of it.

733
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: You love to be abused, and you love the potential

734
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: to abuse.

735
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 3: Just the option was there, right? Yeah for me?

736
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like to be hit by a ball

737
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: that my older brother was throwing enough things at me,

738
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: and of course I'm not hitting anyone.

739
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 3: Do you remember that twang that those kinds of dodgeball balls,

740
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: all that kind of buying what's made out of I

741
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: have no idea. You don't see them, and you don't

742
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: see them, dodgeballs, quicksand uh, these things stay in childhood.

743
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 3: You don't think about them or see them or worry

744
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: about them.

745
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: Oh I think about quicksand all the time. Okay, I'd

746
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: love to get in some quicksand well.

747
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: That then you have not been. Then you not thought it,

748
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: Then you didn't learn enough. The whole point is, that's

749
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: exactly wrong. It's so tengerous. You don't want to be

750
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: in quicksand because because it's tricky. It's triggy. It's triggy.

751
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: You squirm, You squirm. That doesn't help going you get out.

752
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: You don't know. Someone's gotta get a rope. Someone's going

753
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: to get a rope and a board.

754
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 2: You don't see on the other side, just quicksand world.

755
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 3: Okay, well, great, that's a good thing to think.

756
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: Think about the undiscovered, the you know, these lost frontiers.

757
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: No one's ever been to the bottom of a quicksand

758
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 3: that's a thing.

759
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: They've never reported back, because it's probably incredible. You get

760
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: there and you're like, why didn't I get sucked down

761
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 2: here earlier?

762
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: This is fantastic.

763
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, we've never heard of any reports back

764
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: from the other side of quicksand I think about, you know,

765
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: like in Mario, you kind of get sucked down, what's

766
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: happening at the bottom of the quicksand, Yeah, what is happening?

767
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: And no one will ever know, and I might be

768
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: the first. I'm willing to report back. I mean, this

769
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 2: is again, sears, I love to go into these things.

770
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: What's what is it about my personality that needs to

771
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: get into these things that are abandoned or dangerous?

772
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. This is our first conversation, John, So

773
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: I can't really can't really tell you. I don't want

774
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 3: to think about it.

775
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: I want you to go home tonight and just, you know,

776
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: write down some thoughts free form, just start the pen,

777
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: you know almost What is it with the psychics that

778
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: are writing? It's right, psychics. What do they do with

779
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: the writing? Automatic? Writing?

780
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: Automatic?

781
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with automatic writing?

782
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: No?

783
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: No, it's fascinating, is it.

784
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: I mean it's a scam, right, That's where I start.

785
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 3: What is it? It's when someone claims that that something

786
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 3: else is writing through their hands their.

787
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: Hand right, start scribbling and it frequently just looks like scribbles.

788
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: So I don't know what the what the endgame is there?

789
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'll tell you. I'll tell you what it is,

790
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 3: almighty dollar. You know what I mean?

791
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: It certainly is these psychics will do anything for a book.

792
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: I've been saying it for agents.

793
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: Well, so they'll do one thing for a book psychics. No,

794
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 3: that's what they do for money.

795
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: The psychic tool set. There's all kinds of things within

796
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: the psychic tool set. We've got tarot, We've got palm reading, palmstree,

797
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 2: if you're in the biz, automatic writing. We've got holding

798
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 2: hands around a table and the table lifts off the ground.

799
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: I don't know what you would call that.

800
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 3: I would call it amazing, is what I would call it.

801
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 2: Well, I love magic. You like magic, I mean you

802
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: go to the magic Castle.

803
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 3: I've been. I like, there's a day where you don't

804
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 3: have to wear a suit, and I try to go.

805
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: Then, oh, well, I wish I had gone on that

806
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: day because they made me put on a I dressed

807
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 2: up snappy, and they made me put on a forty

808
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: two waist pant and I had to just hold it

809
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: around my waist all night, and I swore I would

810
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: never go back. I think there were a lot of allegations,

811
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: and I was happy that it kind of got taken

812
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: down and now they're reforming it. But at the time,

813
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: they made me wear the worst suit of all time.

814
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 3: You just what pants were you wearing when you got there?

815
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: Like a kind of a snappy I'll describe the outfit too,

816
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: because you ask a snappy khaki with an orange blazer. Wow,

817
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: you know, a dress shirt and tie. And it was

818
00:38:59,200 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 2: a snappy look.

819
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: But it wasn't close enough to a suit, right they

820
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 3: need it's supposed to. It can't be. It's not supposed

821
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 3: to be slacks and it's supposed to be a suit.

822
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: The pant and jacket must match.

823
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't know that. I didn't know that.

824
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: It feels a little. I don't know who's behind that thinking,

825
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 2: because the putting a man of my size in a

826
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: pant size that's, you know, quite a bit larger just

827
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 2: made me look like I was out of my mind,

828
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: wandering around like some slob who had just stumbled. And

829
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: that doesn't help the atmosphere if only, if anything, it detracts.

830
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 3: Right of course, But but but it sends a message

831
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 3: and teaches a lesson, and teaches a lesson, right and

832
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: that and that helps people going forward. It upholds a

833
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 3: more progress, It up holds a more agg Wait, so

834
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: you but you're a norm, a norm? If you will,

835
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: thank you.

836
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 2: You're aware of a night? Did they allow you to

837
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: go in without a suit?

838
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 3: I believe it's Friday. I believe there's a lunch. You're

839
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 3: allowed to go for a certain buffet lunch. To get

840
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 3: specific again to anyone outside of Los Angeles. Again, we're

841
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 3: getting very specific. But you can go. I believe if

842
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: you know a member, and that means you know a magician,

843
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 3: which not everybody does but I do, you can go.

844
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: I think on Fridays might be Tuesdays, but I believe

845
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: this is a day where you just need a button

846
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 3: down collar. Oh and then you can have buffet lunch.

847
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: And I love buffet lunch, all right, I love it.

848
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 3: The food is fine, good enough tea cruise ship. It

849
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: is cruise ships below it is sub cruise ship. It

850
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: is it is, Yes, it is it is.

851
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: I mean it is prison cafeteria food. Look, I'm willing

852
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: to say or at the time. Okay, let me back

853
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: that up. This was in twenty fifteen, so things may

854
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: have changed at the Magic Castle. I think things have

855
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: changed with the Magic Castle. There's been a major rupture

856
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: at the Magic Castle. And maybe they've got better food.

857
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 3: Maybe they better food. But I agree the time that

858
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 3: I went wouldn't befit a monarch of.

859
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: The season, you know, what I mean. You cruise a lot.

860
00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: You cruising.

861
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: I used to go with my family. My family would

862
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 3: go on cruises pretty regularly, okay, but I haven't as

863
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: an adult one to one cruise for a friend's bachelor party, okay.

864
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: And we decided to do like a three day cruise,

865
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: and I don't think it was the best choice, but

866
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Speaker 3: I do think we did. But we did get absolutely

867
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Speaker 3: blackout drunk at one of the fancy dinners, and I

868
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Speaker 3: do believe we just took off our shirts in the

869
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Speaker 3: dining room and just sort of lived out loud.

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Speaker 2: Colors don't run, indeed.

871
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Speaker 3: They don't.

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Speaker 2: They don't fast exactly right. Well, I feel like it's

873
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Speaker 2: time to play a game. Okay, We're gonna play a

874
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Speaker 2: game called Gift or a Curse. I need a number

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Speaker 2: between one and ten from you.

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Speaker 3: Six.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I have to do some light calculating. I have to

879
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Speaker 2: get our game pieces. I need you to be patient,

880
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: but I also want you to promote something, recommend something,

881
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Speaker 2: do whatever you want. You have the microphone, do whatever

882
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Speaker 2: you want. I'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: How about that.

909
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Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but I'm a Trump voter.

910
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: I should have told you up top.

911
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, you should have told me up top.

912
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 2: No.

913
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: No, no, I wouldn't have said yesterday.

914
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Speaker 2: Even when I say things like that, I'm like, I

915
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: have to go back and say absolutely, because you never know,

916
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: you know. Sometimes I truly no longer believe anyone knows anything,

917
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: and no one did not vote for Donald Trump. I

918
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: have to be I just have to be very clear

919
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: about that sort of But truly everyone takes take that advice.

920
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: Let's what a nightmare of the world is. Let's let's

921
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: do something nice, try to make it habitable in some way.

922
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: Let's play the game. Let's play the game gift or

923
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 2: a curse. I'm gonna name three things. You're gonna tell

924
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: me if there're a gift or a curse and why,

925
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: and then I'm gonnaell if you're a correct or not.

926
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Speaker 2: There are correct answers, and you can lose, and look,

927
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: we don't want you to lose. Okay, maybe we do.

928
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: Number one These are all listeners suggestions. We love the listener.

929
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 2: Someone named Kathleen has written in Gift or a curse,

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00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 2: puzzles with some pieces already put together out of the box, curse.

931
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: Why what are we doing here? The point is not

932
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 3: to finish the puzzle. The point is to have a

933
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 3: good time doing a puzzle. What wow, you know will

934
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: make this even more fun? What if more pieces were done?

935
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: That'll save us a lot of time. The point is

936
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: not to save time. The point is to take time.

937
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 3: In fact, if I ever do a puzzle, and I have,

938
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Speaker 3: and I will and I do. When you open the

939
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: box and a couple of pieces stuck together, like you know,

940
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 3: not not yet separated, I remove, I undo them immediately

941
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: and mix them up. Of course, purist is even. It

942
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Speaker 3: doesn't even. It's not. That's not fair to pureists that

943
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: it fundamentally, it's not about being pureist. It's about understanding

944
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 3: what you are doing when you do a puzzle. If

945
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 3: you if you are glad to see that two pieces

946
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: are already together when you have started, you don't like puzzles,

947
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 3: You should be upset and want it fixed. Because if

948
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: you are glad that you don't have to do as

949
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: much on this puzzle, just don't do it at all.

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Speaker 2: John mm hmm, correct, thank you, absolutely a curse. I'm

951
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: not getting my money's worth. I want a discount. If

952
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 2: I open that thing and part of the puzzle is solved,

953
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 2: I'm going back to the manufacturer and demanding the percentage

954
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: of the puzzle that was already finished. I paid full

955
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: price for this thing to do the game. I didn't

956
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: want a picture. I wanted a puzzle. Eventually I'll be

957
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: rewarded with the picture and then, but I not yet.

958
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: I will say, now that we're thinking about it, maybe

959
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: you set that small little corner that was put together

960
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 2: for you aside, and as you start doing the puzzle,

961
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 2: if maybe exhaustion sets in, if you're pinched for time,

962
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: you can save that for later. But if you get

963
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: to the you get a lot of the puzzle done,

964
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: you can break it up and then you get a

965
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: little satisfaction now at all.

966
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 3: No, No, that is first of all, that was conciliatory

967
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 3: in a way that was profoundly stupid. What do you

968
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 3: mean set it aside? If it's set aside, you can't

969
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: come back the whole. Do not understand, how puz do

970
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 3: you understand that if you set it aside and then

971
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: take it apart later, There's only so many places it

972
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 3: can go. If you've done the puzzle and have that

973
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: piece aside, you can't undo it once you've decided not

974
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 3: to take those apart at the jump. Every piece you

975
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: put together while those are sitting there already connected is

976
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 3: making the puzzle easier, and the and the value of

977
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: splitting these up.

978
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Speaker 2: Okay, how dare I'm just saying. I'm trying to I'm

979
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: trying to speak to the listener that thinks, you know,

980
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: that's my little treat. I bought this chore for myself,

981
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Speaker 2: and I get a little treat the manufacturer set upside again.

982
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: I disagree. I think it's a rip off. I think

983
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Speaker 2: that you've been absolutely robbed if part of the puzzle's

984
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: already done. But look, we're correct, I mean we're both correct. Yeah,

985
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 2: we agree, you get the point.

986
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Speaker 3: I just didn't appreciate you, look getting all wishy washy

987
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 3: on this.

988
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: I know, I actually I appreciate you calling me out

989
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: on keeping me honest, because if we don't have that,

990
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: then what do we have.

991
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: If we don't have that, what do we have?

992
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: Indeed, we have a partially completed puzzle. No one wants

993
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: that Okay. Number two, someone named Rancan or Rankin has

994
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Speaker 2: written in gift or a curse urinal in a person's house.

995
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 3: Wow, that is interesting. I'll tell you, I'm I know

996
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 3: that I've been accused of equivocating and assembling throughout the

997
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 3: recording of this podcast, which has been a charm. But

998
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: I'll tell you I I'm gonna I'm gonna walk. I'm

999
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: gonna give you a hard, firm answer, but I do

1000
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 3: want to walk you through my thought from that's okay, okay,

1001
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 3: because I'll tell you my mind is saying gift, my

1002
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 3: heart is saying curse. And let me tell you why

1003
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 3: my mind says that's that's cool, that's cool as how sure, okay,

1004
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 3: that's awesome. That rules how fancy a urinal terrific? It's

1005
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: practical for a lot of people who go to the bathroom,

1006
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: you know, some percentage and uh, you'd be sort of

1007
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 3: at first you'd be surprised and delighted to come across one.

1008
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: But then but then in my heart, I this isn't personal,

1009
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: This doesn't belong here, this doesn't belong in a home.

1010
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 3: And then also there's a kind of uncanny valley aspect,

1011
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 3: and tell me if I'm taking too long with these answers.

1012
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: There's a very specific Uncanny Valley aspect because I vividly

1013
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: remember when I was but a small child, I went

1014
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: to a house of a friend of a friend and

1015
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 3: it was the biggest, fanciest, richest house. I'd never been

1016
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: to a house like this my whole life. And he

1017
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: showed me his bedroom. We got a little tour and

1018
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: had a drum set in the bedroom, big enough to

1019
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 3: have a drum set in it. And then he had

1020
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: a bathroom with a urinal. And it's always seared into

1021
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 3: my memory because I had never seen a urinal in

1022
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 3: home toilet color or styling before. I'd only seen urinals

1023
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: at you know, urinal locate public bathrooms, truck stops. But

1024
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: think about it. Think about it in your mind you

1025
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: picture a urinal, You're not picturing a beige round urinal

1026
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: that matches a beige home. This wasn't a public urinal.

1027
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 3: This was a home urinal. And for that reason, it

1028
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 3: was wrong and drafted. It just was smaller it was.

1029
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 3: It wasn't for commercial use. It didn't have a big cool,

1030
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: it didn't have a big, you know, the big kind

1031
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: of urinal lever had the kind of cute home level,

1032
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 3: and I said to myself, no, thank you, And so

1033
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: I say, in conclusion.

1034
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: Curse playground for disease. Ah, okay, wrong, what how often?

1035
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 3: Look?

1036
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: You have a whole story about this urinal? Did you

1037
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: get to carry? You'll be thinking about it on your deathbed.

1038
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: You'll be thinking about that. Strange to come across a

1039
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: urinal in someone's home. It's one of the most jarring,

1040
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: surreal things that you could possibly do. You're suddenly in

1041
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: every public space you've ever been, but you're in their

1042
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: living room. Well it's off their living room, I mean.

1043
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 2: And again, this listener didn't specify, so maybe they were

1044
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: talking about a urinal in the front the foyer or something.

1045
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 2: But the urinal is a very and I don't want

1046
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: to say the word treat because we don't want to

1047
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: talk about urinal in the realm of treats. But it

1048
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 2: is a such a special occasion, a little miracle. Am

1049
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 2: I using it?

1050
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 3: No?

1051
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: But I'm looking at it and I'm thinking.

1052
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: Why are you using it?

1053
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 2: Because it's too strange? So okay, and I don't want

1054
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 2: to pee on my pants.

1055
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: Wow. Well, okay, A couple of things unpacked. We don't

1056
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 3: need it. We keep moving. But I'll just say one

1057
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 3: other thing, one other point I want to make on

1058
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 3: behalf of the fact that it's a curse, and it

1059
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 3: is this. You can't have a bathroom without a toilet.

1060
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 3: You can have them without a urinal. What that means

1061
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 3: is we're doubling the number of basically toilets, even in

1062
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: a small even this, you have to have a toilet,

1063
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 3: and which which means there's a kind of you know

1064
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 3: when you when you're in a bathroom and there's another

1065
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 3: you're sitting on it now, So it's not gonna be

1066
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: a stall, right, it's not a stall at home. But

1067
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 3: you're sitting on a toilet or at a toilet, and

1068
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 3: you look to your right, and what do you see

1069
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 3: another place to go to the bathroom. That's discomfiting. That's

1070
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: not not good.

1071
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 2: It's a bounty, a fee.

1072
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 3: I don't like it.

1073
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: I mean, picture of this. Here are someone's house, you

1074
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 2: ask for the bathroom. As you walk into the bathroom,

1075
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 2: there's only a urinal, the most haunting image I can

1076
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 2: possibly imagine.

1077
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 3: And the door locks behind you from the outside.

1078
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: Good luck. Wow, Well you didn't get the point there,

1079
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: but that's fine. You know the rich You know you've

1080
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: really reached a rich level when you're getting creative with

1081
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: the toilets. Finally, Okay, so you've gotten one out of tude. Wow,

1082
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: let's see if you can get a sixty six.

1083
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 3: I think you were even pretty ambivalent about whether or not.

1084
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, okay, you know what, this is your show.

1085
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, gift her a curse, and this is from Dabney.

1086
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: Dabney wants to know. Gift her a curse. Songs that

1087
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: fade out at the end.

1088
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 3: I'm so glad you asked that.

1089
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: I'm I'm glad Dabney's gotten the conversation going for us.

1090
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 3: Curse Why because it doesn't work at concerts?

1091
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1092
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 3: Because here's the thing. There's no song that fades out

1093
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: that couldn't have a proper ending. And it can fade

1094
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 3: out in the sense that there can be a final

1095
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 3: strum of the guitar, pressing of a piano key, banging

1096
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 3: of a snare drum. Okay, it's possible, it's possible. But

1097
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 3: if you're ever at a live show where someone does

1098
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 3: a song that only is known for fading out and

1099
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 3: they try the fade out. It's brutal. It's brutal.

1100
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: What does that even look like?

1101
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 3: It just doesn't work. It just doesn't work. They have

1102
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: to find some other way out, and I don't like it.

1103
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 3: I also it means the song never it's you know

1104
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 3: when the song is over, and you know when the

1105
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: song is still fully playing, But as it fades out,

1106
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 3: you know how long you're gonna be here, especially if

1107
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: you you ever listen to a song that fades out

1108
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 3: on Spotify and then you look down on your phone

1109
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 3: and you're like, did it pause? No, we're just in

1110
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 3: an interminable fade out.

1111
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: Fuck that curse, curse you get point?

1112
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 3: Yes, it's yes.

1113
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, laziness, finish the job, finish

1114
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 2: the song. You started the song. Let's get a you know,

1115
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: let's put a roof on this. No song fades in,

1116
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: that's actually probably I would disagree. I think some songs

1117
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: do fade in. Okay, wow, great, I feel like there's

1118
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: got to be a song out there that fades in.

1119
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 3: You know, you could have come with me for two seconds.

1120
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: Well, you have not come with me several times here.

1121
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 2: You didn't come with me to see there it is.

1122
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: But You're right, absolutely, and that truly what an excellent point.

1123
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 2: I've never thought about that, the live experience of a

1124
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 2: song fading out. Just you know, you started with one chord,

1125
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: you use that chord, you end the song with it,

1126
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: or you do the a fun little drum thing, or.

1127
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 3: It can different instruments can stop playing, and it could

1128
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 3: it could slowly come to a very softly then.

1129
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 2: The train stops moving.

1130
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 3: In situation, let's end this thing, right, let's make a decision.

1131
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 2: What do you think of a false ending? Like a

1132
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: song seems like it ends, You get like one to

1133
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 2: two seconds in the song, here we go again.

1134
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 3: I'm okay with it.

1135
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: I love it.

1136
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: There is a poignant performance by Florence in the Machine

1137
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 3: in a hospital for a person obviously who was very ill,

1138
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 3: and they were singing one of their big songs, and

1139
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 3: that song has a false ending or as a moment

1140
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 3: gets quiet, and then it comes back in and everybody

1141
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 3: started ap plodding, and I saw, I assume Florence. I

1142
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 3: guess Florence is Florence, right, I've been in Florence's The

1143
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 3: machineist whoever. The Machine is kind of.

1144
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 2: A faceless group of men, but so more women I

1145
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,479
Speaker 2: actually don't want to speak for the whole band.

1146
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 3: Florence delicately and definitely trying to signal to the people

1147
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 3: are plotting in this room, we're not done coming back.

1148
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 3: So that's a challenge with a false ending.

1149
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 2: Specific yeah, right right, yeah, the false ending.

1150
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: You've got to be careful.

1151
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: You have to be careful with a false ending. But

1152
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 2: I love it. I love to It's You're born again leads.

1153
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 3: A lot of this. People can't see what I'm doing,

1154
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 3: but I'm I'm, I don't know whatever.

1155
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 2: A class about to clap at a concert now he

1156
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: feels like a dork because he feels like everyone's looking

1157
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: at him and he's like, oh, no, I know when

1158
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 2: the real end of the song is. I was just

1159
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: doing I was warming up to clap because for when

1160
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: the actual end of the song is coming, Like.

1161
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 3: When people at a Loso concert start doing the TikTok

1162
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 3: dance too early because she's not at that part of

1163
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 3: the song yet.

1164
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 2: Well, that would be truly bad. She should have those

1165
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 2: people kicked out to get out. Lizzo, listen to a tip.

1166
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 2: You've got have the security remove those people from the audience.

1167
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 2: Those are not your true fans. And they're ruining it

1168
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: for everyone. They're doing the TikTok dance too soon, too soon.

1169
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: You have the power, Lizzo. People would love if you

1170
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: were kicking people out of the concert. That would make

1171
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: headlines everywhere. Lizzo removes fans. Okay, you got two out

1172
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 2: of three.

1173
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 3: I'm okay with it.

1174
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: Not horrible, not horrible. Okay. This is the final segment

1175
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 2: of the podcast. It's called I Said No Emails. People

1176
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: write into I Said No gifts at gmail dot com

1177
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 2: desperate for answers. Every single one of them is hanging

1178
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: by a thread socially. They needed some answer about a

1179
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 2: gift or what have you. Would you answer one with me?

1180
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 3: I would love to.

1181
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 2: Okay, let me read this. It says, Now, this person

1182
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: didn't even say I mean, maybe this is my fault.

1183
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 2: But there's no intro to this email. It just says,

1184
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: here's my question. There's no dear Bridger, dear Bridger, and

1185
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 2: guess there's truly nothing. It just says, here's my question.

1186
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 2: My landlord is about to turn ninety. When I started

1187
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 2: renting from him about ten years ago, I remember thinking,

1188
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if I should rent from you or

1189
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 2: make a documentary. Well, we apparently we know what happened here.

1190
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: He moved into the place. But let's see this guy.

1191
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 3: Okay.

1192
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: He worked for Frank Lloyd Wright in the fifties. He

1193
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 2: owns a home that survived the Chicago fire and has

1194
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: Clarence Darrow's early law library in the attic.

1195
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 3: Is this person?

1196
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 2: His family home is nestled between is nestled between the

1197
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,919
Speaker 2: Oscar Mayer estate and Walt Disney's first Chicago home. During

1198
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: the first lockdown, he found out he needed to undergo

1199
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 2: a heart valve replacement surgery, and as he has no

1200
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: spouse slash children, slash needy friends, he legally put myself,

1201
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 2: the writer of this email, and a few of my

1202
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 2: long term neighbors onto the trust in case the worst happened.

1203
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 2: I am very grateful. He doesn't play golf like my

1204
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 2: dad or eat sweets like my grandpa used to. I

1205
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: guess my question is what do you gift a weird,

1206
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 2: slash generally mean and lonely old man who who has

1207
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 2: everything and doesn't care xo XO Joshua.

1208
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 3: Fascinating? First of all, I mean.

1209
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: This he's basically describing a Forest Gump type character who

1210
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: has passed through all sorts of historical things to become

1211
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: a landlord.

1212
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 3: But also what was interesting is we didn't until the

1213
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 3: final moments of the note learned some negative qualities.

1214
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: Right, he seems just like herson, seems.

1215
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 3: Fine, and then all of a sudden the end, he

1216
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 3: doesn't need things, doesn't want things. It seems mean. He's mean.

1217
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,479
Speaker 3: He doesn't eat sweets and play golf, which was which

1218
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 3: he said, which this email writer said earlier than warranted,

1219
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 3: because it wasn't until later we learned that this was

1220
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 3: about a gift.

1221
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: Right, Basically, he was just bragging about this guy's kind

1222
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: of just being at different places in history by owning homes.

1223
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: And then I will also say this Joshua apparently knows

1224
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 2: two things about men over sixty, and that's play golf

1225
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 2: or eat sweets. Right, doesn't come with a lot of

1226
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 2: information and has somehow wormed his way into this guy's

1227
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 2: heart to be part of his will.

1228
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 3: This seems dangerous to me. So maybe one gift could be,

1229
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: you know, oiling the stairs or something. You know, get

1230
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 3: this thing moving along inherd this place to make it

1231
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 3: your own.

1232
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 2: Become kind of the landlord himself. Take the wheel that

1233
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: doesn't take a crown, take the crown. That's not a

1234
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 2: bad idea. I mean, this person's I mean mean and

1235
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: lonely makes me think this person needs a son. And

1236
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 2: who I mean, we've got We've got an air Joshua.

1237
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 2: He's already got the will and all these things. Why

1238
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: doesn't he do the paperwork. I'm sure he could. He

1239
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: could adopt it as an adult backwards, adopt himself into

1240
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: this man's life. Here's my thought.

1241
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 3: He says he's mean, he says he's lonely, Yes, all right,

1242
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 3: what does that tell me? Until he's hurting physically, emotional, emotionally,

1243
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 3: doesn't know how to reach out. He's not from a

1244
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 3: generation that learned how to communicate. This person's not a

1245
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 3: therapy absolutely absolutely not, would never have gone to therapy.

1246
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 2: So this is a person never too late.

1247
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 3: So this is a person and it's and that's the

1248
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 3: other thing about this, it's never too late. This person

1249
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 3: crying out for community. He's put strangers basically on his trust.

1250
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: Giving away his kingdom.

1251
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: He can't he do to toxic masculine and he doesn't

1252
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 3: have the capacity to reach out and say I.

1253
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 2: Need, I need, I need, I need, I need.

1254
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 3: I've hurt, I am alone. Help me, can't do it.

1255
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 3: So here's my pitch, really funny. Welcome Matt. That's it.

1256
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 3: That's what I got.

1257
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 2: Urinal in the apartment. Sure, sure, ninety, Are you using

1258
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,479
Speaker 2: a urinal? It's hard to say it's I think it's catching.

1259
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

1260
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm gonna be using a urinal at ninety.

1261
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be sitting on that toilet. I'm just very honest.

1262
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to give everyone the image of me at

1263
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 2: ninety sitting on a toilet, but that's why you're here.

1264
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 3: And then you know you're at It's four point thirty.

1265
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 3: You're at the cheesecake factory with your progeny, and you

1266
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 3: sit down at the table and you say, you know,

1267
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 3: I don't pee at the ear anymore. I sit down

1268
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 3: because I earned it.

1269
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 2: I didn't live to ninety to stand at a urinal.

1270
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 3: Where are my tex mechs egg rolls all day?

1271
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm ninety, Joshua. This is the perfect gift for this person.

1272
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: And I mean you've time. I mean the clock is ticking.

1273
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 2: So the fact that you wrote into this podcast tells

1274
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 2: me you kind of don't care to get him at

1275
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 2: gifted all you're just trying to save your bucks because

1276
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: you know it's just going to be a drop in

1277
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: the bucket once his estate comes to you. Look, I'm saying,

1278
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: get the funny doormat that John recommended. Force adopt your

1279
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 2: way into this guy's life, and maybe force those other

1280
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: people off the wheel.

1281
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 3: You get. That's the thing here, That's what worries me

1282
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 3: most about this note. These other people on the will, right,

1283
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 3: who are they? Alienate this man from those people?

1284
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: What makes him so deserve it?

1285
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 3: Dislike them, make him feel unsafe with them? Make you

1286
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 3: make yourself the only person he can talk to, the

1287
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 3: only person he can trust, the only person he wants

1288
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 3: in that will.

1289
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Speaker 2: This is succession. We're looking at succession, and the lonely

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Speaker 2: old man is about to have a son and a

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Speaker 2: friend in Joshua. You show up with the doormat and

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Speaker 2: get into that apartment and start start chatting. That's all

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Speaker 2: I have to say.

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Speaker 3: Make yourself at home.

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Speaker 2: It's about to be John. I have this beautiful T shirt. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we've answered this email perfectly. A mean, mean, lonely old

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Speaker 2: man is about to get everything he ever asked for.

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Speaker 2: What a perfect episode of this podcast. Wow, I've just

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Speaker 2: had a lovely time. I've had a lovely time. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for having me. This was a delight. I mean,

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Speaker 2: obviously Sears is still in the air. The listener's freaking out.

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01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: The listener probably knew immediately about lighting Buzz light Year.

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Speaker 2: But that's fine. We'll let Sears just play out. We'll

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Speaker 2: see what happens the natural course of time, etc. You'll

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Speaker 2: get in touch with City Hall, as I hinted at earlier.

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Speaker 2: And thank you for being here. Thank you and listener.

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Speaker 2: This is the end of the podcast. I'm so glad

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Speaker 2: you were here. I hope you have a terrific day.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you're gonna do, but it's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be another normal day for you. Let's be honest,

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Speaker 2: it's probably gonna be a very average day, especially now

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Speaker 2: that the best part of it is over. But have

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Speaker 2: a nice little lunch or something, do something for yourself.

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Speaker 2: Look up Sears on Google Maps and you'll see what

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about. I love you, goodbye, I said No

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Speaker 2: Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our

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Speaker 2: dear friend Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by John Bradley.

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Speaker 2: The theme song, of Course, could only come from miracle

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Speaker 2: worker Amy Mayn. You must follow the show on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: At I said, no gifts. I don't want to hear

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Speaker 2: any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of

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Speaker 2: all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. Don't you want to

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01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 2: see pictures of the gifts?

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Speaker 1: But I invited you here. I thought I made myself

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Speaker 1: perfectly clear. But you're a guess to my home. You

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01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty, And I said, no guests.

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Speaker 1: You're on presences, presents enough that I already had too

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Speaker 1: much stuff. So how do you dare to surbey me